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How did it happen? Monopolization! Control! Surveillance! Which was the plan all along. The 90's and 2000's was just to get us dependent on it, then they truly started showing us 'cause it was called THE WEB! You're caught! Check mate! Keep in mind: The internet is military Darpa tech from the 1960's. Did you really think they wouldn't use it as a means of surveillance, brainwashing and social engineering once they got the public used to and comfortable using computers. Also take a look into facebook (meta) ties to three letter agencies before it was even a thing. You'd be amazed how fucking naive and gullible you people have been!
Professional academic librarian from 1994 to 2017. Watched the slide into this state of affairs from way up close. Google is a big problem, but it goes deeper than that. I've found that the vast majority of people don't know what research and reference sources are, or how they're produced, published, collected, organized, indexed, retrieved, and built upon. There's a structure to it, and most people don't know it, and that's a problem because this structure is the structure of human knowledge. And I'm not talking just about people in general. I'm talking about college graduates, professionals, high office holders, people in positions of responsibility who are supposed to know what's what. I haven't found any way whatsoever to state this in a way that people care about it. "You don't need the library. Just search Google." This is a slow motion disaster I've watched unfold for decades.
What is also/equally disturbing is the lessening of the idea that 'stuff google says' is actually coming from other places and real sites and sources of data. google isn't the _source_ of data, it conveys other people's work and data to you.
I'm only 26 and ive been seeing this shift a lot, while I do think Google can be helpful unless you know what you're searching for exactly and HOW to search for it it's practically useless for any real knowledge these days.
@@Tao_Tologyfor real, Google recommended answers half the time are provably false statements but one popular article says it's true and Google just runs with it.
Site owner here, a product we sell for eight dollars is not shown in search results, but big sites selling it for over thirty dollars are first in line. This isn't a similar item, this is literally the same exact item, it's rough as a startup.
@@GoodnightGoodbye1223 Maybe? We're still a very new company but we're growing, and while online sales is a portion of it that we wish to grow we're more focused on retail space. The company name is VTC Games & More for retail stores and Venture Trade Co. for overall company name. The product in question mentioned above is a paperback book from Games Workshop (Warhammer).
@@HollyOly It's funny how the paid for sponsor positions and SEO ranking have exposed users to not only bad deals and inferior products, but also to malicious actors. Not sure how many people remember when a couple years back the top result for OBS was a fake site containing malicious software upon download that compromised countless streamer accounts.
Don't want to be too demoralizing but it's also common that once you site gets good SEO amazon bot will crawl up your website and copy your low prices. I've heard about a 50$ book marked at 5$ by mistake and soon enough the price started showing up on amazon too.
Oops. Sorry. Also, we started to predict what you would care to search for and do, before you did, and better than you could. Psychographic mapping and predictive marketing. We've been at it for a very long time. And it works like gangbusters. Ultimately, people are mad because google delivers what people want, or think they want, because very smart algos have determined these probabilities with incredibly high accuracy that keep getting better over time. And yes, sometimes they're wrong. And that's when you feel it most. Because that's when it gets to you. After all, if you really didn't like it at all, then why would you ever use it when there are other search engines and some of them have not yet become google clones? So if it's all downhill, then that is just a reflection of the state of humanity, which has its ups and downs.
@@YashaHarari Google does not deliver what I want, nor what I think I want. Google delivers what they want, and what they think their advertisers want. Did you not watch the video? All your arguments are addressed. There is a search engine that takes the google results and pushes it through a filter to show the actually good results. Which will last until google notices they exist and then they will be either countered with algorithm modifications or just bought up and crushed.
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
@@YashaHarari Do you at least get paid from Google to post comments like that, or are you even just doing it for free? If any company would want me to lick their butt, i would at least demand good pay for that.
@@YashaHarari I smell a dweeb that stans for monopolies too much. Sometimes they're wrong? If this was a *sometimes* thing, people would not be largely in agreement on this topic. I wouldn't be searching online for information on this subject to find out I am not even close to being alone in seeing the overall increase of garbage in search results and generally online, the lack of regulation, invasive tactics and practices that put the user quite low on the list of what's important.
The adding reddit to the question is so painfully real. REDDIT being better than a search engine is actually insane. I hate when people tell you "just google it" because google is so incredibly biased towards _your_ biases that it can't be trusted to give you anything but what it thinks you want to hear. The entire goal is to get you to click on things
This is such a hilarious synergy that Reddit's built-in search engine absolutely sucks and is almost useless and Google results are often garbage, but you can use Google to search Reddit just fine.
What happened? It's a tale as old as time. They replaced the engineer in charge of Google Search with an ads executive. Google Search changed their North Star from searcher satisfaction to milking as much money as possible from every search.
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
@@jamesburke2759 The government won't help because a large portion of Google is the people hired by the government. Google Maps are under the jurisdiction of the NSA/CIA and the US Army. Because you need only to skew the maps in Google a bit and artillery will not hit the target. Susan Wojcicki, Mark Zukerberg and now Elon Musk are obliged to inform the Senate and President about every major change in used technology. They also deliver all collected data to the NSA. Tracking people is not an NSA job. It's the job of social media. Apple is somewhat different but they will pay for it and they will become 100% govs bitch. Since every professional and reasonable criminal or terrorist can hide on the internet, we know that spying is NOT for people's security. It is dedicated to spying on all the average Joes on the planet.
For the last five years, literally every first link in a google search would be an ad for something tangentially related. Its been a nightmare, especially with conglomerates like Fandom wiki buying 100s of domains so no matter what you search they make money, you can never get up to date info on a thing
TH-cam is really bad with this too. There are many videos that do not come in my search results, even after copying the title of the video and channel name, word for word. Only being shown what they'd like you to see.
That's probably their fuzzy default search, which removes words, reorders queries or switches out synoynms. Try verbatim search by adding &tbs=li:1 if it is really bad. Though it's frustrating they basically hide that option. You can set it as a shortcut you add to your search in a lot of browsers though.
For Google search (not TH-cam), phrase search, i.e. "in quotes", it still works. But for some arcane reason, it somethimes doesn't include that phrase in the summary on the search results. But if you went to the page and did a "find" within the page text, that exact phrase will (or rather, should) be found. So it does technically work, how it's communicated to the user is also part of the suck But even then, sometimes it was an older version of the page that got indexed, and the newer version doesn't have the phrase anymore.
I work for a medical journal and the academic nature of our articles ensures that our site rarely shows up on Google results. Eff Google. Commenting for engagement.
Literally no one knows about Google Scholar either, which is a version of Google's search engine geared towards academic databases. People just Google and pick the result with the best vibes.
I see medical journal articles pop up if I type in a really long search term, but it’s happening less often. What pops up a lot more frequently are questionable health oriented websites that don’t seem to have any medical credentials associated with them.
@@takanos1793The joys of TH-cam: _You can't post outside links if you aren't the video uploader._ I mean, I saw someone do it once a few months ago under a community posy, but even _they_ didn't know how they managed it...
Us: Google stop being evil! Google: Come on, we're only being a tiny little bit evil Us: No you're- wait, how are you defining evil? Google AI: Evil is a warm drink traditionally served on the moon by moose
@@javiervalenzuela8284 That’s the thing where people tricked Google into serving up President George W. Bush when users searched “idiot.” True story, but they patched that loophole in the engine back in 2007.
Surprised Adam didn't even mention how Google doesn't even search for what you typed in anymore. Google looks at what you typed in, then searches for what it thinks you wanted to search for. That's why typing in variations of search terms sometimes doesn't even change the results anymore.
"then searches for what it thinks you wanted to search for." I think you meant to say "then searches for whatever is made by the website that paid them the most to show you."
No, it literally searches for what will make Google the most money. Just like they don't show you the most expensive ad, but the most expensive ad you're likely to click on.
I'm a SEO manager for a small-ish marketing agency. I fucking hate marketing and the field of SEO isn't much better. Adam didn't even get to the worst part of SEO: Google knows the rankings and search results are shitty, but they don't really know how to fix it. They're trying to implement a principle called "EEAT" or "experience, expertise, authority, trust". They're trying to match your search to the most "trusted" source, which should push smaller websites if they can show some form of expertise. What happens instead is that they use links as one of the primary metrics, which in turn promotes already established websites, even if the content is bad. When I work with clients, I try to tell them that their website should be user friendly and readable, and while I can build some good rankings, some search terms are so competitive that no small business will ever show up in the top results.
Does it count when websites link to themselves as “sources”? I know that’s super common in health misinformation. Half the sources are just their own previous articles.
I don't believe that anymore. I use Kagi, a paid search engine. They basicslly just ask Google, Bing, Yandex etc. your question snd then run their own algorithm to make the results less sh!t. And it works! It works hauntingly well. So what does that mean? It means the good results ARE still there within Google's search results. And the means to get them on top are within the capabilities of a startup ran by 20 people. Google does have the good results. And they purposefully choose to shove them lower in rank, because the more time you spend on the site looking for something, the more ads you see in the process.
Content Manager for a successful online marketplace here. And yeah, using backlinks as the main ranking factor has led to being inundated with guest posts requests to the point of it getting overwhelming and kind of desperate. I wish good stuff was just easier to find for rankings, but even Google has seemed to give up on finding it over just raking in ad revenue. Don't they see that this is making people leave the platform? You'd think ChatGPT threatening their business model, they'd at least give two sh*ts about making a good experience for users to win them back.
This video makes me so happy. The best way I can describe it is to say Google makes the internet seem so much smaller. There used to be pages and pages of variety with search engines. Now it seems like every time I search for something the same 10 websites are always at the top.
I remember growing up and being able to find any PDF of any books or articles I needed to use for school papers as references. All on the first page of searching. Now, you can't even find a single PDF without it being impossible to do so, or locked behind some $30/m company that controls all educational resources. This is literally ruining generations.
I mean. That's not really the same thing he's talking about. That's Google scrubbing pirated shit from their results at the request of copyright holders that have the money to pursue it. You can blame the god awful copyright laws in the us for that one. Also to be honest dude you shouldn't be downloading pirated content from first page results even back then. There's still sources for pirated content of all sorts.
It got to a point that's so ridiculous that I download entire libraries using TOR just so I can use a simple keyword search program on 30GB of PDFs I have, yes, they're all pirated, imagine buying that amount of books, it would cost millions of dollars. Why use google if you can download the entire Alexandria library ?
I think academic journals requiring subscriptions from a university or employer for articles has been fairly standard. Although you can read a great many for free under open source licenses.
@@albertbozesan or start exchanging in person like our parents and grandparents did. we try so hard not to be them, that we found something WORSE instead of better. not everything they did was incorrect, not everything they said was horrible, not every method they used was "outdated". yes, obviously there's a lot that was incorrect, horrible and outdated, but good food is still good food even if it's quinoa now instead of rice, tempeh instead of burgers and turmeric instead of ketchup.
@@ethanstump I trully hope this is the beginning of the end of the digital era. I'm a young person and am truly tired of this constant atomization of society. Yes, I want to talk to friends in person, I want to use my free time in learning actually useful skills instead of doom scrolling for hours. I want to make art and not be afraid that a bot will steal it. The world is so exhausting right now.
@@scorpioigor kinda young person here (29). people have always been complaining about the atomization of society since the time of socrates. also, what's "useful" changes when you get older, both in that things that once looked useless no longer look so, and things you once thought as useful, get shown up by other methods, processes and schools of thought. art theft may be on turbo boosters now, but people throughout the ages have been concerned about safeguarding their valuables. "Nobody can protect a house full of gold and jade" was written 2500 years ago. as for talking to friends in person, i mean even going back, the pony express was in equal measure derided and lauded for letting people who are not face to face communicate. to quote "no country for old men" :" What you got ain’t nothin new. This country is hard on people. You can’t stop what’s comin’. Ain’t all waitin’ on you. That’s vanity." the worlds always been exhausting. and nobody can keep up, there's just too much to think that you can know, see, do, think and feel everything. so you prioritize, change, shut yourself off from things, to be even able to focus on things that you think will be beneficial. from what i understand, we are moving into the "green" tech era, which will definitely be an improvement, if not what we are looking for. as for truly going back, as they say nostalgia leads to viewing things through rosy glasses. i was raised incredibly traditionally, in a way that's not really possible anymore, or is rare (raised fundamental religious, eagle scout in the small town suburbs) and let me tell you, what most people aren't longing for isn't a return to "the good ol day's" but a return to youth, and a possibility of thinking that you could become rich. and if you actually do talk to a younger richer you, you realize that person is even more self conceited, arrogant, miserable and idiotic than you would've realized. because here is the thing, "half the fun is in the longing". half the fun is in the fantasy, in thinking "oh, wouldn't that be wonderful if" and in your head you cut out the boring bus ride, the time spent getting ready, the time and effort spent waiting around for the event to start, the time spent figuring out people's names, seeing the people you'd rather never talk to again, and more. the world would still be exhausting if you talked to your friends in person, you did art and learned how to cook. but at least in your head, that is not so. and even if you went beyond, you invented a new recipe, a new skating trick, you found those cool new shoes, got that new haircut, read that new book, and got that sick tattoo........ that doesn't last forever. what's best, is to realize that it's okay to feel tired, jaded, to validate that your don't have an ideal life( very few do), that we all feel as if we don't have enough time/money/energy, and that flaws, mistakes and failures are a part of life. it sucks to learn, but it sucks even more so to not learn.
As someone who use to OCD fixate on any subject, I would go through pages and pages and pages of Google results and find any snippets I could to create a complete picture. That just isn't possible anymore. Research is impossible. Finding old obscure websites is impossible. Hell, just finding a site without "Sponsored" or "Ad" infront of it is fucking impossible. It hurts because I have an archivist heart and I fear many sites are now lost to time.
Yes!!! I used to go down rabbit holes. There is a wealth of information out there. It used to be so accessible at the click of a button. You could look up exploded parts diagrams, endless forums, old ancient books that had been digitized. So much good stuff, neatly compiled. Nothing worth a damn lasts.
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
The situation has gotten crazy. Remember when businessmen could start a company and challenge the top TV station, film company, internet provider, advertising agency? Today no one could challenge Disney, Google, Meta. Even if a startup becomes successful they just get bought out. This thing is broken and the lawmakers are sitting on their asses.
And they don't seem to get or care that if we the people and workers keep getting squeezed the way we're being squeezed, then we can't elfin buy what they're trying to sell.
At least with Apple, you have options to turn off data tracking these days from third-party apps I think it was. I'm switching to iPhone after how bad my galaxy S24 is.. I get so many notifications now.. like as soon as I put my phone down, it does extra notifications, and it's getting feckin ridiculous... with my apples devices it's nowhere near as bad
My wife works in online advertisement, while everything you say is true, she says it is also awful from the advertisers' point of view, Google wants to run their own "ai optimized crap" that is basically a black box and expects you to pay whatever it says. There are ways to run manually but the lack of transparency is glaring.
The thing with AI is that the entire product is just a few numbers. It's much less than the actual training data, and the training time and all the repeats to make a perfect fit. It's like copying a software, but on steroïds. Because at the end of the day, no one really even understand the finished ai model. So, no way in hell the greedy assholes do that.
Yeah, I was basically told in my marketing class that since google has such a monopoly over search engines and advertising if you want to advertise your product online you basically have to pay them whatever they want. Because where else are you gonna advertise? Bing?
This is the reason why I and many others just bite the bullet and google "How to boil an egg reddit" instead of sifting through the weeds to find an actually good article. Fuck it, some guy on reddit 10 years ago probably had the same question with a solid answer
And then you come across someone who asked it 10 years ago and they got no response. OR they eventually posted a comment saying "nvm, figured it out" and that's it. And because it's already been asked at least once, no one is allowed to ask that question again.
Of all the things we've lost in the last 40 years, Strong Anti-trust enforcement is one of the ones I miss most. Strong regulation, creates a healthy ecosystem... no regulation, results in scorched fields where only one dude is standing... hogging all the resources.
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
I learned a thing or two about that anti-trust enforcement while skimming this court document that is very hard to find on Google: ago.mo.gov/wp-content/uploads/missouri-v-biden-ruling.pdf
@@jamesburke2759 Then the challenge is running a secondary infrastructure along the lines of rural Co-Ops that are self-funded... Dealing with anti-competitive laws forced into place by the monopolies in the more urban areas... Almost like we need to hit the reboot button and start from first principles... but as long as money is a driving principle... the end result will be the same. :P
i could be wrong but i heard recently that biden is pushing for more anti-trust and monopoly breaking. that's why google is being sued right now, and i suspect other trusts will be broken. although i know for a fact biden is paid off by big companies because most politicians are, and this may only be in an effort to secure another 4 years. who knows how this will all turn out, i just really hope we get rid of the monopolies
On a deeper level, they also removed Boolean functions and changed how others work in such an obscure way that even their official documents don't make it clear
I thought I was going crazy when boolean functions didn't seem to work anymore. It's one of those situations where you're like ... Is it me? Am I the fuckup?
@estefencosta1835 Same! It was like "did they change the syntax? am I misremembering how to do it? why isn't this working?" but no it's just Google making things less useful 🫠
It has gotten so bad, that I returned back to visiting actual libraries when I want to know more complex things. The internet is f‘ed up. You find nothing anymore and the the more smart ish we get the worse it becomes. Back then at least something was searched. Now you get what others think you actually want.
Yep. I've been trying to find something specific, and everywhere I used to look on the internet has become a trash-heap, so I started physically driving from one recommend store to another. Just to ask other humans.
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
Thia has been the case for years. They check the words and guess what you actually want or try to force on you something. The problem now is even simple facts are fucked with the implementation of AI.
Anyone who's run a Google search in the mid 2000s *knows* things are really messed up right now. Mojeek is by far the closest thing I've seen in recent years, but I think the damage has been done.
One reason why I switched to DuckDuckGo was the ability to search "*thing* !w" and it would immediately search Wikipedia without extra clicks. They have other shortcuts too, like for TH-cam and Reddit.
The really infuriating thing, is you do a search, and it's like "we've found 200,000 results, but we're only going to let you see the first 4 pages". And of course, the first 4 pages are garbage, you know that with all the inverse optimisation that the stuff you're actually looking for probably doesn't start until page 20 or so. But now you're not even allowed to trudge through the garbage until you get to the good stuff, the garbage is all you're allowed to see.
Yep, and they're not displaying good, relevant results that you know exist word for word (because you know the site, you just forgot to bookmark it), in favor of some generic crap that they expect to be popular. Even for those niche requests that they used to be excellent at because of the size of their index, and that would seem pretty useless to game, because they're not about anything you'd want to buy. That or SEO has caught up so bad that it can make sites benefit from some equivalent of the old 'having the whole dictionary for keywords' no matter how irrelevant, and not look like they're doing it.
Even worse, a lot of results are starting to come back with ZERO hits....sentence long searches with major, broad search terms just comes back with zero results. The more you add to a query now, Google just says, 'fuck off.....buy a vacuum'.
Dude, no one even talks about how trashed the image search function has gotten on Google. It used to be the best, and they keep taking away features left and right for no reason while the search system itself just keeps getting worse and more and more AI driven.
Yeah! As an artist, finding reference images that aren't AI generated garbage is becoming harder and harder. Especially when sites are letting generators sell their trash next to actual art and photos.
@@jamesedenart I used to do a lot of amateur web design for people. Nice way to make an extra $50 in college. Cobbling together custom backgrounds and stuff, buying texture packs for asset use, etc. It is soooo difficult to find those kind of resources now for no reason. Google used to be my go-to for everything because you could filter colour, size, image file type, etc. Well they took away the exact pixel function; the colour filter is not as good as it used to be; you can't search specifically for .jpg or .png or .psd anymore. And yeah, the first however many results are _always_ AI made slop now. It's awful.
worked in a company that specialized in SEO, quit 2 days after having a conversation with one of our writers that said and i quote "if i write an article for any given customer, if there isnt any statistic to prove my point i'll just make it up" now image a whole department of people doing just that day in and day out. thought to myself back then that the internet is gonna be useless before long because of SEO, so here we go hypercharge that with AI = web 4.0 aka utter garbage.
And capitalism is institutionalized greed. It's called capitalism because only capitalists get to participate in any meanijgful way. It's funny, Nancy Pelosi all but said this when asked about her lucrative (insider) stock trading.
@@3nertia Something to keep in mind: The internet costs money to run. And I'm not talking about your monthly cable bill here. Maintaining DNS servers, the high-throughput backbone links between nodes, and the absolutely staggering amount of storage needed for the current internet to exist costs an incredible amount. Of their 237 billion, they spent 225 billion just on their operating costs. Which, while it seems like an insane amount, that's less than 5% of their revenue as profit.
I’m a self-taught artist and I used to use google to find outfit ideas and poses to reference. I used to get thousands upon thousands of results, my phone would clog up with the amount of photos I’d saved for later. Nowadays, I have to slog through thousands of images of crappy AI “art”, non-relevant photos, and the like, I maybe get 10-20 photos per pose/outfit hunt, and that’s on a good day. Often times, I end up finding more AI crap than what I’m looking for, and I didn’t even put “AI” in the search bar. I put “drawing” to hopefully weed it out, but it’s useless now.
When I search for references now the search has an _end._ After, like, 30-70 results Google honest to god straight up claims that there is nothing more to find. And that's just not true! Heck, I've uploaded art _myself_ that is tagged with some of the exact terms I plug into that worthless search engine, but somehow Google thinks it can act like Tumblr and turns a blind eye to all the content that's actually avaliable on the world web filled with BILLIONS of people and BILLIONS of images and posts! Searches from the 90s to early 10s used to go on forever and remain relevant. And Reverse Image Search actually WORKED and FOUND THE ORIGINAL DATED SOURCES for me! Now they shove limited results that are 60% AI into my face as if I won't notice.
Another horrible technology thing: I just posted a replyin this thread. I cannot see it. It is gone. Maybe it will reappear in several hours. This is a thing that started a few months ago and is happening REGULARLY now.
Apple is getting sued too. They keep calling their monopoly and abuse on its customers "the ecosystem" and "apple experience". Like not being able to upgrade your storage yourself on your own laptop and Apple charging 5x more on purchase.
It's not a monopoly.... you have options outside of the apple ecosystem. Nobody is making you use apple hardware, nor are they forcing you to buy it. They also offer plenty of options based on a configuration you might be looking for, but I will agree their pricing isn't very desirable, especially if you're a low income individual. A monopoly would be apple if they had the only phones and computers in the world and you'd be shit out of luck if it broke, and they still refused to let you repair it. Google is more of a monopoly than apple could ever be. They've literally taken over the internet and majority of smartphone hardware, while they have the more "open" use cases they still have you right where they want you, using their services with next to no escape. I'm happy to switch to iPhone 16 pro max. Honestly
whenever I search for anything, I expect authoritative sources but I get questionable garbage… and thats ignoring the pictorial shopping ads, the promoted results that don’t fit my search and now the AI summary that I cant trust.
it's the infantilization and willful ignorance of it all that really get's me. yes, if i'm unfamiliar with a topic, it might be a good thing to understand what "vegan" means, but i've already known about them for 12 years, and have been one personally for four years. they treat people as if only those with great IRL networks know about tempeh starters, and that if you want to specifically craft your own, your friend from college has a father who has some equipment. news flash, not everyone has gone to college, many who go to college don't really develop long lasting friendships, and you can count on one hand the friends who have a father in the industry.
Wow. Do you have a source for this quote? I always butt heads with business people saying they have "the wrong KPI" but this is it. If a metric is a goal you can detach all human sentiment for it. Ie: - No need for you to understand what it does (the new kid that catapults SEO effectiveness is considered a hero. Any repercussions down the line are unheard of.) - and no need to second guess it (as the consensus IS this metric. Going against it just makes you an obstacle.)
Exactly this. My partner recently told me about the metrics they're tracked on at State Farm, and it was because those metrics didn't have targeted goals that I considered them to be pretty good metrics. I worked as a Kroger cashier, and all the metrics I had to reach quotas on were soul-sucking; I pity those who have to make cashiering their career long-term. A good example of this was that I had to try to scan every fruit and vegetable. I was getting yelled at by my manager for memorizing the fruit and vegetable codes that I learned to use through experience and familiarity with the store's products because of the incompetence of other cashiers, and the only reason why I filled my head with arcane esoteric knowledge of specific product codes rather than universally utilitarian concepts in the first place was efficiency, as I was expected to also scan 32 items every minute. I averaged at around 28, and that wasn't good enough. That speed metric was also codswallop, as it forced cashiers to optimize their processes to skew the metric, which made the way they interfaced with customers suffer; if you're punished for not being quick enough, that also punishes you for not being engaging and human enough for customers. I understand that this strikes a delicate balance between speed and service, but I would rather be the one to intuitively check that balance than have it beholden to a BS metric that skews it.
Bruh, SEO is the literal worst. I wrote for a sports website a few years back selling articles. I'd try to create, well-written articles but my editor would email me back and be like "add the words '2020 NFL Draft' about 20 more times in the 3k word essay you wrote on Jalen Hurts". What's crazy is that the article still shows up on page one of Google when you search those terms and it sucks because the site is full of ads, to the point it's embarrassing to use on my CV.
and now with the AI "summary of results", I've seen a staggering amount of flat out wrong information presented at the top of the search. I hate AI... and capitalism.
Did you see that it's started making recommendations based on articles from The Onion? A screenshot of it saying geologists recommend eating at least one rock a day went viral recently
You could always.........stop using google. Plus get in to the habit of not "go to search engine" for info but already know primary sources, sites etc to go to first.
I'm a 44 year old pediatrician and have always considered myself a "tech guy." I always "Google" in front of parents for information and often we end up in wildly different places. When they reach my "resource" page (say, the CDC or Cleveland Clinic) it's after 4-10 attempts of their own. Notice they have to READ that information FIRST to determine it's not applicable or simply bogus. Also, very well said on the AI search results. My "first" clickable link is usually after the 6th result. It's not "AI" at all and more like a SEO search program working on a marketing commission.
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
If you add &udm=14 onto the end of your search query's URL you get just weblinks, instead of AI garbage and "suggestions" Its like going back to 2011. There are still ads though, sadly.
THANK YOU! I'm not joking one of my masters course leaders literally told us this the other day and wrote it on the board. I was going to photograph it but it was my turn to present and I was Hella nervous already.
Yeah, though there’s still seo garbage. It mostly just looks cleaner, but it’s still better. You can even set it as your default if you go to your browser settings and set this as your default search engine: www.google.com/search?q=%s&udm=14
I worked in the IT field and it is pretty clear to me that everything related to the internet and technology in general peaked around early 2000. Since then all development has been about extracting money from people and distracting them. So much for technology unleashing human potential.
@truthisfree7297 I work for a big and long standing IT company (laptops, storage, servers, that kinda stuff) for about 10 years. and the amount of nonsense that comes from R&D, Sales and generally from top down, is just fucking atrocious. from the cloud (regular storage presented through the internet) over "AI" TM (which is a repurposed number cruncher build to play jeopardy) to slowly removing any human involved in the support and servicing of their products. it's all about that sweet sweet cash.
$230 billion a year isn’t enough for these jerks. I’m sick of GREED. We need a law against wanton greed like virtually all companies are guilty of practicing.
An idiotic example on TH-cam that actually hurts their advertisements is: If you DO NOT skip the first advertisement, you'll get a second and maybe a third ad. In the OLD days, I would let the 5~15sec AD play as a way for the YTubber to make a penny or whatever YT used to pay. Remember when there used to be an AD every 2-3 videos? Now it's 2-3 ads per 15min videos or worse.
i remember being annoyed at easily closeable small ad banners over the seekbar while a video plays. now they take up the whole screen, is almost always unskippable, and takes priority over the video itself
Ed Zitron on his Better Offline podcast wants everyone to remember the name of Prabhakar Raghavan, the former head of Ads at Google, who is now head of Search. He's almost entirely responsible for Google search being the cesspool it currently is.
I interviewed for a job at Google about ~7 years ago. One of the questions was about how I would put more ads into gmail. I then proceeded to say I wouldn't recommend it, gave a bullshit answer about A-B testing, and intentionally flubbed the rest of the interview. I'd love a Google salary, but my soul isn't for sale at any price.
I've been saying for years now that "the internet just 'felt' better before", and that while I can't quite put my finger on it, I know something's changed. And people just kept telling me that my perception was being altered by nostalgia, as they always do. I hate how people nowadays are so gaslighty. They keep acting as if nothing weird has ever happened in the world. 😡
if they are significantly younger or older than you, or weren't all that tech savvy in the first place, it might not be their intention, as they might have never had that experience that you did. could also be that they've switched to the new tools that block all the junk that your seeing. it's more informative to ask what tools people are using, and why. a site you once trusted might not have the same people running it, the same workers using the same techniques. it's worth it to keep yourself fresh and on the lookout for different things that might work better.
Meanwhile literally every day somethng wild is going down. Ex: We don't even blink when entire towns are flooded out, in areas where this never happens. Doesn't even make the news. EVERY AT&T customer's data was just stolen. crickets
@@KstoneCreator as they say, don't waste a crisis. plus, since sinclair has bought up so many stations, those who do blink, don't stay in one place for very long.
Google's more like an old phone book. Before you could search for a subject and get an encyclopedia, but now you search for something and get the Yellow Pages.
That's the problem, though. It's supposed to be a shopping mall AND a library AND a cocktail party where you can find people with the same interests as you. I sew. It is both hilarious and aggravating that if I search for, say, how to draft a bag pattern for my laptop, I will have to do several creative searches, all the while being presented with laptop bags for sale WHICH DON'T SUIT MY NEEDS. Which I've already determined, and that's why I'm searching for information on how to make my own in the first place.
Nope bc it is the ONLY way to PURCHASE GOODs. You don’t have to use a shopping mall to buy stuff even when they were popular you had outlets, stores, second -hand, for sale from newspaper. This is far more dangerous. Thats a lazy way of saying they own our way of Researching and bc they get to bc this country has been so deregulated and tax -cutted to death(thanks to the GOP 6x CORP cuts for 1% Including Dump’s 21% flat CTR the lowest in >100 yrs that requires a 90% POV RATE TO FEED IT) to create the Fake $B welfare queen class from our taxes and wages & has elected ITSELF for 50+ yrs)we allowed Crap Capitalism to re-Monopolize our country into the Robber Barron MAGA racist slave dream Reagan promised in 1980. We can’t buy CRITICAL commodities unless it’s thru just a HANDFUL of corps CARTELS like Amazon, Apple, Walmart, etc and they all suck. And we can’t RESEARCH and get True results bc it’s all for sale. Get it? You have no idea how much more choice we had when we actually trust busted these pigs, or what QUALITY & craftsmanship was and the fact that you think this is HUMOROUS when we are slipping into mass EXTINCTION & F**CISM BC OF IT, is really horrifying! This is the least Free Market, trickle-down system since 1900, when we had >90% POVERTY. Thats the future btw. This country needs nationalized News, SEARCH ENGINE, Healthcare, Social media, phone service, etc as a choice to compete with PRIVATE sector not be one in the same thing. Wake the F Up. We can’t communicate, can’t go to Schools, post office, prison, and just about every facet of govt without it being gouged and monopolized for PROFIT which, guess what, make GOVT, the ECONOMY and its citizenry Far Worse bc nothing is more bureaucratic, INEFFICIENT, INEFFECTIVE, EXPENSIVE than Privatized Govt or relying on Crony Fake “Free Market 😅😂😂” lies to run a system and believing that a corp Cartel will ever care about anyone but itself and its shareholders! . When Reagan said “run it like a business “. He meant INTO THE GROUND. 50 years of Recession/Depression Cartelism is Ending us permanently. Ha ha right?
It's rare but not that rare. Microsoft had its business regulated because of anti-trust issues in the 1990s with their browser in every computer. AT&T was broken up because it was a monopoly. There are other examples. Maybe too few, but it's not as rare as finding a unicorn.
I run a small website, just static files. I go out of my way to have zero ads, just some affiliate links, and that’s more for just learning on my end. I’m constantly struggling with SEO and I hate it so much. Plus, I’m getting a ton of email from Google saying I have a bunch of free credits for ad placements for my site. For what? SEO as a concept is just so dumb, too. They have a set of unpublished rules, all of which change slightly for no reason every so often, and it basically creates a market for SEO marketers and creators that shouldn’t even exist. And then when Google’s search console tells you something wasn’t indexed, it gives you a reason akin to a teenager saying “I didn’t like it because.”
Growing up, i loved tech. Now, i am barely interested. I grew up seeing how much essier and better it could make our lives, just to see the reality that it is instead wielded against us.
Same, my husband and I are 41 and we used to love tech, IT, the Internet and videogames and now we hate it and try to cultivate IRL friends and non tech hobbies. He does board games and I read a lot and knit.
Same. I used to be excited about new tech coming out, now there is nothing like a new developement to get my depression going. Like, in what new and interesting ways are we getting screwed with this time?
Right now, on my web browser, I have: ad block, link tracker blocking, a site blacklist that mostly has AI garbage pages, and a non-google search engine. And that makes things tolerable, but I shouldn't need to go through so many hoops to make being on the internet not The Worst Thing.
set up a locally hosted site directory for the things you go to. Security things (trackers/ads and the like) should be done on the router/modem before your computer ever even gets the data, because it's that disease ridden.
Advertisers running the show and dishonest articles are ruining the Internet. But the problem is far older than the Internet. Back in the days of newspapers there was yellow journalism. I also remember hearing that Mark Twain said something about being a successful editor has never had anything to do with actually knowing anything except how to sell
while advertisers and marketers have always been a problem, there are time, skill, method and product shifts that both customers and advertisers have to get used to. it's in this "getting used to" phase that tends to be more advantageous to the customer, as now the old tricks have become obvious, and the new tricks aren't fully formed and online yet.
In my time as an SEO content strategist, I always insisted that the *main point* was to have good quality content first. The SEO strategy was just making sure we didn't make our way out of the results pages from wording or hierarchy choices.
What is even worse is that today some companies demand the governments in different countries to run down their social security systems in order to get those covered by social security to apply for these fake jobs more efficiently and more eagerly. And this is what these companies call a "labor shortage", but without the intention of hiring any of the applicants, instead they reduce and lay off existing employees at the same time because "expenditures must be cut" and "demand has decreased." It's a really dirty and inhumane game, but since the companies pay for the politicians' elections and hire lobbyists, the public have no power to stop it.
Ex SEO writer here. I genuinely wrote good quality content, but was also forced (by the client) to create "shadow" sites and blogs that were just keyword blurbs to strengthen the real site/blog. I felt so dirty and unethical, even if I new that the real content people would see was done well bc of my research and source selection, but I know most people don't do even this, the bare minimum. I hate algorithms, they are the shit ruining the internet and all apps. Now, if I ever actually apply any SEO stuff, it's just actual relevant keywords placed in coherent ways to make for a soft organic bump, but I don't sacrifice the quality of my writing or my readers' time just so someone else can join the barf battle.
Would you be willing to give a lesson to a struggling artisan jeweler? I'm disabled and taught myself to make jewelry, come to find out I should have focused on seo
@@Celestial_Reachif you want to reach clients for a small business i’d recommend utilizing social media, especially TikTok. Lately making any new site rank is a nightmare, and even companies struggle with it, so ranking personal site with no history may not be worth effort for you
Sites that do that are exactly what kills the ethical businesses who refuse to. It's hard to watch, especially when it's your own business slowly sliding down the rankings to these guys. It makes it a real struggle to maintain your own ethics.
No, you weren't forced to do that, unless they pointed a gun at you. And the world becomes what you make out of it. The point is that you gamed the system, and because of that it all became worse for all of us.
That's one of the things I've noticed... Antitrust laws are not being enforced like they should. Monopolies have become a global issue. Meanwhile, great video. Entertaining yet informative.
Agree. Google has pretty much abandoned old SEO practices and instead favors their AI driven garbage to deliver search results. Like you said, add “Reddit” to any query if you want a real answer to a question.
One of the major concerns I have with algorithms controlling what people see is how it's a reintroduction of the gatekeeper. Before the Internet the only information available to most people was what they saw on TV, heard on the radio, or read in a magazine or newspaper. Beyond that we could look something up in a library. But for all of this, there was some monetary threshold that had to be crossed in order to get that information. The Internet broke all such barriers, and any information could be shared and spread. Now that information wildfire is being snuffed out by these algorithms. Resulting in echo chambers and furthering the stifling of ideas.
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
You are correct, gate keeping is what they are doing. There is information on the internet that the owners of these companies don't want you to see or read. The reasons are 100% political.
tiktok being banned, not for unique and specific reasons that are unique to the chinese government, but are shared by the US government, is political censorship in all but name. we are their property, and no one get's to tell us things without their permission. abusive boyfriend 101. isolate, gatekeep, DARVO and gaslight.
There used to be a 'discussion" tab on Google when searching so you could get stuff like forums. But then they got rid of it and now we have a shopping tab.
Why was my comment with legitimate suggestions for alternative search browsers deleted? I will say again that Kagi and searxng both have the capability to search forums and Reddit posts through a discussion tab. Look into them if interested.
Plot twist: they didn't make it better for advertisers. We advertisers hate it. It was better for us when Google put the ad results in a clearly visible position on the side. The ecosystem sucks now and has for years.
They made it as optimised as possible for themselves to earn money off the advertisers (and the users). Apparently it's good enough that your fellow advertisers are still happy to pay Google ridiculous amounts of money so it's here to stay
@@tjrgwnfktwbag I think we'd love to go somewhere else, but there is kind of nowhere else to go. If you're not on Google, like Adam said, you're not anywhere. And, as he also said in the video, without regulation, individual advertisers can't really change this. You go where the public is. The public is using Google. Because the public also has no choice :D although with the amount of videos on this topic for the past month, I wonder if some changes aren't on the horizon. I haven't seen so many people be so unhappy about the state of it, which is good.
It's so full of fraud, and lead generation companies that just try to capture all the traffic and make you pay them for the leads. The cost of advertising is going up and the benefits are going down.
Regulation that actually works, needs to be evolved, as someone who's witnessed FCC CE FTC carrying logos in Android cellphones that exploded, Microsoft PCs that endured BSoDs, failed hardware and software, and over advertising and irrelevance needs to be checked. Having evolved in the US free market economy Google can and should enable votes, choices, options, reporting, cataloguing and documenting service requests like " Please do not show paid for or sponsored content" or an option that breaks down the costs ( product service cost, ad cost, spend cost, discount) and other details on a product. The more transparent Google gets, maybe, better?
The Director of the FTC, Lina Kahn, runs the tiny department that is tasked with enforcing Anti-Trust laws against the largest players and she is doing a wonderful job for the people. Know her and support her!
@@whwhywhywhywhywhywhy Email could work. Read news sources (Some still exist) and share with people you know. Figure out if something similar exists in your country and donate your money or time to them.
I once had an issue with The Weather Channel app where videos from that app kept playing while I was trying to watch a TH-cam video. When I tried to Google the issue, all I got were 5-star reviews for the Weather Channel app.
I am EXHAUSTED by ads. They are absolutely everywhere. On Google, on TH-cam. Now, even though I PAY for Amazon Prime, I'm going to start getting ads in the movies i rent. Im sick to death of being harassed to purchase total CRAP.
Small note for anyone not familiar with SEO, al ot of SEO is super shady, but some elements of it are a good thing. For example, page speed/load times, and accessibility features play into a website's search ranking. These are things that sites should care about and work to improve.
Blackwater rebranded as Academi. Then you have Amazon and Apple. If massive, scummy corporations gravitate toward the letter A just for for the hell of it, one day the stock exchange will look like the beginning of a phonebook
Not a lot. Mostly trying to stop some games being PS exclusive, but that's about it. Ya, Sony can be evil too. Sony made some rule that Minecraft multiplayer games couldn't cross PS/XBOX boundaries but could with Nintendo. They are also porting some Activision games to Nintendo for the first time to prove they want the exclusivity culture to end, something that Sony hates.
Remember when they purchased Rareware, Bethesda, and Activision, just to continue to not make games? Classic. We should definitely let them buy Steam. I’m sure THIS time it will be different
@@BrendanR403 Over ten thousand people were fired for no good reason, after they claimed to want to hire more. Most major tech/game companies have been bad for different reasons. Microsoft is killing successful studios faster than EA ever did.
I can't get over how the TH-cam algorithm almost universally chooses the one video on the long list of suggested videos that I would want to watch the least to take over the player when the video ends. It almost feels like people are paying for placement rather than it actually making logical choices.
If you ever want proof the AI algorithm sucks, here's how you can ruin your recommended videos in 3 easy steps. 1. Watch any Simpsons clip. 2. Watch any Family Guy clip. 3. Watch any video related to Marvel/DC. Congrats, enjoy trying to get that stuff out of your recommended. There's definitely other ways to ruin your recommended, but those three will change like 80% of your feed to those topics.
according to wikipedia: " Between 21 April and 4 May 2018, Google removed the motto from the preface, leaving a mention in the final line: "And remember... don't be evil, and if you see something that you think isn't right - speak up"
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
@@jamesburke2759If you have the knowledge and connections to pull this off, by all means, go for it. Just be aware that the majority of content is hosted by the large corporations and they want to retain control.
@@peenchay_whetto2333 I dont have alot of skill and i dont really have any major connections but im sure neither did the 2 guys that made google in their shed. or the small teams of 10 or so that made the greatest games of all time. we now have a day and age that we either do something about it or turn into a wall-E cross Stupify world. I can talk to people here. if i spark someone's idea then my job is done.
The other thing is, 'Don't sell out.' Literally, keep your startup a private company, and don't sell it in an IPO. Don't go public. I don't know how to do this, but make some kind of 'trust' arrangement, where, if you do sell it to some PRIVATE buyer, they'll be required to follow certain rules to keep the character of your company the same as it was, or something; otherwise, if they violate the trust, they can no longer keep the 'goodwill' of using your original company name.
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
@@vitoc8454 Maybe, but I haven't really thought this through in detail. If I ever did it in real life, I'd want to talk to somebody who could think through all the complexities of it. I just think it's deceptive to pretend to be the same company they were, when in essence, they aren't, and the original founders get all the blame directed at them, when actually, they weren't so bad compared to the board of directors and the shareholders and all that came later, after the IPO. You get all these influences from places like China or somewhere that are not necessarily acting in the best interests of the general public of the USA, and those people start influencing the boards of directors. Or, you can even get competitors from other companies who are actively sabotaging the company deliberately, serving on boards of directors.
reddit has gone public now and has been getting worse year on year as a platform. After not long adding “reddit” to your search term wont even help anymore.
You could look into zeiss for that. The main zeiss company is owned by a nonprofit research institute that has in its founding statutes that they aren't allowed to sell any fraction of the company
Keywords have very little to do with placement. Google’s primary ranking mechanism is the number of high quality inbound links. The problem is that companies now create several websites of the same content, dominating those links, and propelling themselves to the top, regardless of if they’re the best or not. That’s the real issue and it sucks
I remember hearing the SEO acronym for the first time, around 2005 or so and thinking to myself "why the hell is everyone just OK with this??" after watching the whole IT community basically ignore and shrug it off. And boy howdy, how little did I realize how surreal data collection would get just a few years later
The thing is, SEO started out as "here's how you get your website in compliance with internet standards so web crawlers can see you", then it quickly moved towards its inevitable purpose of participating in a perpetual arms race against Google's algorithm by using secret tricks to get to the top search result. In 2005, Google was completely on board with the idea that all you should need to do is create a quality website with good content and Google would fight for you on the other side of that arms race. Obviously that stopped happening and the cheap content farms won 😕
It’s because the IT Community (broadly speaking) is full of minnows that think they’re sharks. I’ve worked in IT my entire adult life and have run into most of the pretentious people I’ve ever met at work. Many of the problems that plague the industry are because there was a badge of honor in figuring out work around for shitty systems rather than fixing the core system.
@@Papercut625 Isn't that the hard truth. Tech-oriented people take such great pride in their ability to 'solve problems,' yet they often fail to see the deforestation that ends up being a direct consequence of their (collective) efficient destruction of a piece of bark. Pretentious doesn't quite capture it-more like ironically, childishly, destructively arrogant.
The other day I googled whether I could get a new pack of birth control if I lost the pack and the ENTIRE front page was articles addressing what to do if you miss one pill -- it was surreal.
Yeah, google doesn't actually use what you type in it uses what it thinks you meant so that it doesn't have to actually search and just show you a previous search instead.
Not to defend Google's shit algorythm, but the answer as to whether you lost a pack entirely or missed only a pill would be very much related. If you lose the entire pack, depending on what week of your cycle you're one you should purchase a new one and continue taking it from the pill after the last you took as if nothing happened, or if you were advanced on your cycle, you could just have the placebo pills right away, have your period and then start a new pack. So the answer for a missed pill could help a bit here.
I did an Google SEO class at an old job I had and saw the scam first hand. When I became a consultant afterwards I always advised against using Google SEO seeing the writing on the wall on what the internet and Google was becoming. SEO ruining the internet, search engines, and is the biggest wasteful company spending especially for small and mid sized businesses.
SEO done right is actually capable of being the single biggest driver of growth, revenues and profits for companies. I've done that for companies for a very long time, and SEO and other "non-paid" marketing channels (channels that are not traditional paid advertising channels) deliver the highest ROI by far. It just generally takes more time and effort than running ads, but ads are often not profitable until a certain level, so ads are actually often seen as a loss leader at least at first. And SEO is what can keep a company in business and well ranked for many years, even if they don't have a relatively big ad budget.
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
@@beesquestionmark exactly- why are you trampling people at Trader Joe's for a tiny bag when you could just... not? Or buy from a small business who makes better bags for a lower price- or even the same price but you're actually supporting the person making it
@@CaptCinna it's often because that small business has locations in oregon, california and arizonia, meanwhile your in Nebraska. while shipping and company websites does ameliorate this quite often even for foreign goods like specialty Japanese matcha, there are often say german goods that just don't have availability in the USA, due to lawsuits by..... you guessed it, local small businesses or the big chains. even if your on zaqq's instead of trader joes, there are geographical locks that are a bish to overcome, if you can even overcome them. scarcity mindset does terrible things to people, and our system not only uses natural scarcity but artificial scarcity to increase hype, competition and disorientation. we are not immune, merely have taken mitigation efforts.
Having an ad introducing a service that offers to delete your information online so ads can’t spam you in the middle of a video discussing how ads ruined the internet is pretty on the nose.
This is ironic. Just a few hours ago while I was still asleep I was dreaming about trying to find something on google and I couldn’t find it despite how easy of the words I put in. I was getting so mad lol. And that happens often in the real world, too. It’s like “why am I getting back results that have nothing to do with what I am looking for?”
well, about 5 or so years now. corporate lobbying allowed for this. corporate lobbying should have been banned long ago but then we all need to understand lobbying and bribing are two different things.
His suggestion of adding "reddit" isn't likely to yield much better results, given that there is no way to verify the qualifications of the person posting. It's also pretty heavily inundated with AI posts and bots anyway, it's been complete garbage for years. Fine if you want help with a specific tech issue, but that's about it.
Its getting to the point where its annoying to downright creepy af like big brother stuff. I literally turn my Google Mic and Webcam off most of the time now along with location service like my phone. Every little shit I looked up during the day, even random thingss that I said , its like an echo that comes back at me. The advertisement on my Google page comes back generating leads on just about everything that I thought about , its like a horror movie , a ghost tryna stalk you.
Seriously. I was offline for a week to go to a festival and I come back to youtube recommendations related to speakers from that festival. Now, I don't mind seeing those, but I am 100% sure I hadn't in any way informed google I would appreciate it if I got to do my own filling in of search terms. It's like going to a restaurant you've never been to and your food is already ready. It is creepy and disrespectful to shatter my illusion of free will like that.
Recursive AI output will pee in its own mouth as its only nutrition. This will literally break the internet and it’s well on its way now. This will leave a new innovator to pick up the pieces- and it’s going to happen soon.
Well, it remained necessary to me throughout years. Google had very short periods of excellent results and short periods of good results, but most of the times is was meh results. Now they are flush-the-toilet results in most of the times.
We need 3 catagories for search engines: 1) Product/Market 2) Info (acedemic, public company information, news and so on, all non publicly editable) 3) Web sites
I work in marketing as an SEO Copywriter and its miserable. Its pretty clear from the keywords what people are looking for, but my company doesn't provide those results but we still have to use the key words because thats what is ranking highest. But we're also constantly fighting with websites that are just.. paying google more money to rank even when they don't have ANY content on their websites either. The whole thing is just so damn frustrating.
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
Here's something you can do: don't be part of the problem. Stigmatize working for advertising and related problems. Make it hard for them to hire. Would you work for a major polluter or the prison industrial complex?
As an SEO analyst. I'm in a similar boat. I do my best to give my writers good foundations to start from so that while they are using competitive keywords they at least are in line with the products and services offered by the company
@@csn583 Even if all 120,000 copywriters in the US quit today. That still wouldn't change Google's practices mate. I have no idea how you're justifying this nonsense in your head, but that isn't a valid solution.
More like peer reviewed lies. Checkout local historic buildings. Wikipedia will make up a story that it was "founded" in 1892, then it has a fire, they rebuilt it 2 yes later. That's a damn lie. All across the world it does it. They will cluster some of the magic fires around 1776 or just match up areas and buildings to sound reasonable.
The start of a website article is so true. Looking for info on how to get a game running or how to do this or that action in a game, the page starts with a paragraph detailing what the game is. Then the second paragraph has something like "This naturally makes the game super popular and more players mean that players have been looking into options how to customize their experience" and other nonsensical bullshit. Then after a paragraph-sized ad, the third paragraph finally starts talking about the actual subject-matter. But usually to get there you get bombarded with all free space filled with ads, maybe some pop-up to whitelist the site or some subscription plan and then the "do you want to allow the site to send you browser notifications?" (I don't know who ever allows that to happen).
Lots of people talking about how trash google images is lately. When I was younger looking at fanart on google images was literally what I did for fun. Look up a character look at art for hours, no exaggeration. Now I can't scroll for more than one page without google deciding it somehow ran out of images of increasingly general terms.
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How did it happen?
Monopolization! Control! Surveillance!
Which was the plan all along.
The 90's and 2000's was just to get us dependent on it, then they truly started showing us 'cause it was called THE WEB!
You're caught! Check mate!
Keep in mind: The internet is military Darpa tech from the 1960's.
Did you really think they wouldn't use it as a means of surveillance, brainwashing and social engineering once they got the public used to and comfortable using computers.
Also take a look into facebook (meta) ties to three letter agencies before it was even a thing.
You'd be amazed how fucking naive and gullible you people have been!
Iam creating internet pages for 25 years and your video just NAILED IT! Great work, really great.
It's worse than that, they are using the personal data for psychological war.
And cyber bullying.
Professional academic librarian from 1994 to 2017. Watched the slide into this state of affairs from way up close. Google is a big problem, but it goes deeper than that. I've found that the vast majority of people don't know what research and reference sources are, or how they're produced, published, collected, organized, indexed, retrieved, and built upon. There's a structure to it, and most people don't know it, and that's a problem because this structure is the structure of human knowledge. And I'm not talking just about people in general. I'm talking about college graduates, professionals, high office holders, people in positions of responsibility who are supposed to know what's what. I haven't found any way whatsoever to state this in a way that people care about it. "You don't need the library. Just search Google." This is a slow motion disaster I've watched unfold for decades.
What is also/equally disturbing is the lessening of the idea that 'stuff google says' is actually coming from other places and real sites and sources of data.
google isn't the _source_ of data, it conveys other people's work and data to you.
its all coming to a head this year. the tech giants are going to support the new fascism, just you wait and see!
so important! this problem is solvable too!
I'm only 26 and ive been seeing this shift a lot, while I do think Google can be helpful unless you know what you're searching for exactly and HOW to search for it it's practically useless for any real knowledge these days.
@@Tao_Tologyfor real, Google recommended answers half the time are provably false statements but one popular article says it's true and Google just runs with it.
Site owner here, a product we sell for eight dollars is not shown in search results, but big sites selling it for over thirty dollars are first in line. This isn't a similar item, this is literally the same exact item, it's rough as a startup.
Same. Google tells us it’s our fault for not paying for better SEO. 🙄
Looking for a salesperson?
@@GoodnightGoodbye1223 Maybe? We're still a very new company but we're growing, and while online sales is a portion of it that we wish to grow we're more focused on retail space. The company name is VTC Games & More for retail stores and Venture Trade Co. for overall company name. The product in question mentioned above is a paperback book from Games Workshop (Warhammer).
@@HollyOly It's funny how the paid for sponsor positions and SEO ranking have exposed users to not only bad deals and inferior products, but also to malicious actors. Not sure how many people remember when a couple years back the top result for OBS was a fake site containing malicious software upon download that compromised countless streamer accounts.
Don't want to be too demoralizing but it's also common that once you site gets good SEO amazon bot will crawl up your website and copy your low prices. I've heard about a 50$ book marked at 5$ by mistake and soon enough the price started showing up on amazon too.
When the internet started caring what I searched for instead of simply showing me what I searched for, it was all downhill.
Oops. Sorry. Also, we started to predict what you would care to search for and do, before you did, and better than you could. Psychographic mapping and predictive marketing. We've been at it for a very long time. And it works like gangbusters. Ultimately, people are mad because google delivers what people want, or think they want, because very smart algos have determined these probabilities with incredibly high accuracy that keep getting better over time. And yes, sometimes they're wrong. And that's when you feel it most. Because that's when it gets to you. After all, if you really didn't like it at all, then why would you ever use it when there are other search engines and some of them have not yet become google clones? So if it's all downhill, then that is just a reflection of the state of humanity, which has its ups and downs.
@@YashaHarari Google does not deliver what I want, nor what I think I want. Google delivers what they want, and what they think their advertisers want.
Did you not watch the video? All your arguments are addressed.
There is a search engine that takes the google results and pushes it through a filter to show the actually good results. Which will last until google notices they exist and then they will be either countered with algorithm modifications or just bought up and crushed.
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
@@YashaHarari Do you at least get paid from Google to post comments like that, or are you even just doing it for free?
If any company would want me to lick their butt, i would at least demand good pay for that.
@@YashaHarari I smell a dweeb that stans for monopolies too much. Sometimes they're wrong? If this was a *sometimes* thing, people would not be largely in agreement on this topic. I wouldn't be searching online for information on this subject to find out I am not even close to being alone in seeing the overall increase of garbage in search results and generally online, the lack of regulation, invasive tactics and practices that put the user quite low on the list of what's important.
The adding reddit to the question is so painfully real. REDDIT being better than a search engine is actually insane. I hate when people tell you "just google it" because google is so incredibly biased towards _your_ biases that it can't be trusted to give you anything but what it thinks you want to hear. The entire goal is to get you to click on things
This is such a hilarious synergy that Reddit's built-in search engine absolutely sucks and is almost useless and Google results are often garbage, but you can use Google to search Reddit just fine.
when i search i always add reddit to the end
I honestly didn't think about it til he said but I do use reddit more then ever now.
dude not even that will help you. SEOs are intentionally poisoning reddit searches and even AI searches so you only find more ads.
Google is adding reddit automatically now and it ruined it more. Now you get reddit and quora
What happened? It's a tale as old as time. They replaced the engineer in charge of Google Search with an ads executive.
Google Search changed their North Star from searcher satisfaction to milking as much money as possible from every search.
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
@@jamesburke2759 The government won't help because a large portion of Google is the people hired by the government.
Google Maps are under the jurisdiction of the NSA/CIA and the US Army. Because you need only to skew the maps in Google a bit and artillery will not hit the target.
Susan Wojcicki, Mark Zukerberg and now Elon Musk are obliged to inform the Senate and President about every major change in used technology. They also deliver all collected data to the NSA. Tracking people is not an NSA job. It's the job of social media. Apple is somewhat different but they will pay for it and they will become 100% govs bitch.
Since every professional and reasonable criminal or terrorist can hide on the internet, we know that spying is NOT for people's security.
It is dedicated to spying on all the average Joes on the planet.
Boo hoo fucking hoo.
If everyone's so bothered about capitalism, why don't they do something?
Nah, the "tale as old as time" is: they went public
For the last five years, literally every first link in a google search would be an ad for something tangentially related. Its been a nightmare, especially with conglomerates like Fandom wiki buying 100s of domains so no matter what you search they make money, you can never get up to date info on a thing
Drives me crazy that now it offers pages WITHOUT the term I used to search for them
Yep, they do that on TH-cam now as well, making it a lot harder to find videos on specific topics I'm actually searching for.
TH-cam is really bad with this too. There are many videos that do not come in my search results, even after copying the title of the video and channel name, word for word. Only being shown what they'd like you to see.
That's probably their fuzzy default search, which removes words, reorders queries or switches out synoynms. Try verbatim search by adding &tbs=li:1 if it is really bad. Though it's frustrating they basically hide that option. You can set it as a shortcut you add to your search in a lot of browsers though.
You can include search queries in quotes like so "example" in order to find webpages with the exact word in it.
For Google search (not TH-cam), phrase search, i.e. "in quotes", it still works. But for some arcane reason, it somethimes doesn't include that phrase in the summary on the search results. But if you went to the page and did a "find" within the page text, that exact phrase will (or rather, should) be found.
So it does technically work, how it's communicated to the user is also part of the suck
But even then, sometimes it was an older version of the page that got indexed, and the newer version doesn't have the phrase anymore.
I work for a medical journal and the academic nature of our articles ensures that our site rarely shows up on Google results. Eff Google. Commenting for engagement.
they show up for me - cos I look for them. Its the only way I can hope to get actual facts.
Literally no one knows about Google Scholar either, which is a version of Google's search engine geared towards academic databases. People just Google and pick the result with the best vibes.
Can you send the link? I'm rather curious
I see medical journal articles pop up if I type in a really long search term, but it’s happening less often. What pops up a lot more frequently are questionable health oriented websites that don’t seem to have any medical credentials associated with them.
@@takanos1793The joys of TH-cam: _You can't post outside links if you aren't the video uploader._
I mean, I saw someone do it once a few months ago under a community posy, but even _they_ didn't know how they managed it...
Us: Google stop being evil!
Google: Come on, we're only being a tiny little bit evil
Us: No you're- wait, how are you defining evil?
Google AI: Evil is a warm drink traditionally served on the moon by moose
Write this definition everywhere and google will give it to you one day
I'm not a server tho 🤔
@@javiervalenzuela8284 That’s the thing where people tricked Google into serving up President George W. Bush when users searched “idiot.” True story, but they patched that loophole in the engine back in 2007.
Surprised Adam didn't even mention how Google doesn't even search for what you typed in anymore. Google looks at what you typed in, then searches for what it thinks you wanted to search for. That's why typing in variations of search terms sometimes doesn't even change the results anymore.
You can even type "x" in quotation marks and it will show your results for "y" and "are you sure you didn't mean Y?"
Yeah, it often assumes the word I searched was meant to be another one. It feels rather condescending, like it assumes you're illiterate.
"then searches for what it thinks you wanted to search for."
I think you meant to say
"then searches for whatever is made by the website that paid them the most to show you."
i deeply miss being able to use simple code to narrow results. Quotation marks used to mean something. Asterisks. And. Without. All RIP.
No, it literally searches for what will make Google the most money. Just like they don't show you the most expensive ad, but the most expensive ad you're likely to click on.
Adam didnt ruin everything but he will tell us who did
It was me, I’m sorry
@@whysocurious7366 stop that
He ruined my blissful ignorance
He ruined ruining things
I've said it before:
I love imagining this is his ARE character finally snapping after being cancelled.
I'm a SEO manager for a small-ish marketing agency. I fucking hate marketing and the field of SEO isn't much better. Adam didn't even get to the worst part of SEO: Google knows the rankings and search results are shitty, but they don't really know how to fix it. They're trying to implement a principle called "EEAT" or "experience, expertise, authority, trust". They're trying to match your search to the most "trusted" source, which should push smaller websites if they can show some form of expertise. What happens instead is that they use links as one of the primary metrics, which in turn promotes already established websites, even if the content is bad. When I work with clients, I try to tell them that their website should be user friendly and readable, and while I can build some good rankings, some search terms are so competitive that no small business will ever show up in the top results.
Does it count when websites link to themselves as “sources”? I know that’s super common in health misinformation. Half the sources are just their own previous articles.
I don't believe that anymore. I use Kagi, a paid search engine. They basicslly just ask Google, Bing, Yandex etc. your question snd then run their own algorithm to make the results less sh!t.
And it works! It works hauntingly well.
So what does that mean? It means the good results ARE still there within Google's search results. And the means to get them on top are within the capabilities of a startup ran by 20 people.
Google does have the good results. And they purposefully choose to shove them lower in rank, because the more time you spend on the site looking for something, the more ads you see in the process.
@@loripeck8396 Internal links are important, but they don't push rankings the same way as links from other websites do
They don’t WANT to fix it
Content Manager for a successful online marketplace here. And yeah, using backlinks as the main ranking factor has led to being inundated with guest posts requests to the point of it getting overwhelming and kind of desperate. I wish good stuff was just easier to find for rankings, but even Google has seemed to give up on finding it over just raking in ad revenue. Don't they see that this is making people leave the platform? You'd think ChatGPT threatening their business model, they'd at least give two sh*ts about making a good experience for users to win them back.
This video makes me so happy. The best way I can describe it is to say Google makes the internet seem so much smaller.
There used to be pages and pages of variety with search engines. Now it seems like every time I search for something the same 10 websites are always at the top.
2 SEOs walk into a bar, pub, speakeasy, nightclub, social club, martini bar, microbrewery...
Made me lol - I'm still chuckling
Good one
🤣
Dude... best joke ever
This made me smirk and squint lol.
Google in 2000: “Don’t be evil”
Google in 2024: “Kick puppies”
More like: "Overthrow Western Civilization"
Time to take Google to the gravel pit.
Google in 2024: Smoke while pregnant
Protest by switching over to Yandex. It's much better.
Google 2024: You should buy these poorly built scissors before you go for a run.
I remember growing up and being able to find any PDF of any books or articles I needed to use for school papers as references. All on the first page of searching. Now, you can't even find a single PDF without it being impossible to do so, or locked behind some $30/m company that controls all educational resources. This is literally ruining generations.
there are ways, but you might not like it
There are miracles that can still be done with a Library card and libgen.
I mean. That's not really the same thing he's talking about. That's Google scrubbing pirated shit from their results at the request of copyright holders that have the money to pursue it. You can blame the god awful copyright laws in the us for that one. Also to be honest dude you shouldn't be downloading pirated content from first page results even back then. There's still sources for pirated content of all sorts.
It got to a point that's so ridiculous that I download entire libraries using TOR just so I can use a simple keyword search program on 30GB of PDFs I have, yes, they're all pirated, imagine buying that amount of books, it would cost millions of dollars.
Why use google if you can download the entire Alexandria library ?
I think academic journals requiring subscriptions from a university or employer for articles has been fairly standard. Although you can read a great many for free under open source licenses.
A cooking blog shouldn't not load 70 fckn megabytes of trackers, advertisements and cookies for a chicken parmesan recipe
Then we need to be willing to pay people for their chicken parmesan recipe.
@@albertbozesan or start exchanging in person like our parents and grandparents did. we try so hard not to be them, that we found something WORSE instead of better. not everything they did was incorrect, not everything they said was horrible, not every method they used was "outdated". yes, obviously there's a lot that was incorrect, horrible and outdated, but good food is still good food even if it's quinoa now instead of rice, tempeh instead of burgers and turmeric instead of ketchup.
@@ethanstump I trully hope this is the beginning of the end of the digital era. I'm a young person and am truly tired of this constant atomization of society. Yes, I want to talk to friends in person, I want to use my free time in learning actually useful skills instead of doom scrolling for hours. I want to make art and not be afraid that a bot will steal it. The world is so exhausting right now.
@@scorpioigor kinda young person here (29). people have always been complaining about the atomization of society since the time of socrates.
also, what's "useful" changes when you get older, both in that things that once looked useless no longer look so, and things you once thought as useful, get shown up by other methods, processes and schools of thought. art theft may be on turbo boosters now, but people throughout the ages have been concerned about safeguarding their valuables. "Nobody can protect
a house full of gold and jade" was written 2500 years ago.
as for talking to friends in person, i mean even going back, the pony express was in equal measure derided and lauded for letting people who are not face to face communicate.
to quote "no country for old men" :" What you got ain’t nothin new. This country is hard on people. You can’t stop what’s comin’. Ain’t all waitin’ on you. That’s vanity."
the worlds always been exhausting. and nobody can keep up, there's just too much to think that you can know, see, do, think and feel everything. so you prioritize, change, shut yourself off from things, to be even able to focus on things that you think will be beneficial.
from what i understand, we are moving into the "green" tech era, which will definitely be an improvement, if not what we are looking for.
as for truly going back, as they say nostalgia leads to viewing things through rosy glasses. i was raised incredibly traditionally, in a way that's not really possible anymore, or is rare (raised fundamental religious, eagle scout in the small town suburbs) and let me tell you, what most people aren't longing for isn't a return to "the good ol day's" but a return to youth, and a possibility of thinking that you could become rich.
and if you actually do talk to a younger richer you, you realize that person is even more self conceited, arrogant, miserable and idiotic than you would've realized. because here is the thing, "half the fun is in the longing". half the fun is in the fantasy, in thinking "oh, wouldn't that be wonderful if" and in your head you cut out the boring bus ride, the time spent getting ready, the time and effort spent waiting around for the event to start, the time spent figuring out people's names, seeing the people you'd rather never talk to again, and more.
the world would still be exhausting if you talked to your friends in person, you did art and learned how to cook. but at least in your head, that is not so.
and even if you went beyond, you invented a new recipe, a new skating trick, you found those cool new shoes, got that new haircut, read that new book, and got that sick tattoo........ that doesn't last forever.
what's best, is to realize that it's okay to feel tired, jaded, to validate that your don't have an ideal life( very few do), that we all feel as if we don't have enough time/money/energy, and that flaws, mistakes and failures are a part of life. it sucks to learn, but it sucks even more so to not learn.
I just turn JavaScript off.
As someone who use to OCD fixate on any subject, I would go through pages and pages and pages of Google results and find any snippets I could to create a complete picture.
That just isn't possible anymore. Research is impossible. Finding old obscure websites is impossible. Hell, just finding a site without "Sponsored" or "Ad" infront of it is fucking impossible.
It hurts because I have an archivist heart and I fear many sites are now lost to time.
I was going to make a similar comment. I just give up by the third or fourth page now, if I try at all...
Yes!!! I used to go down rabbit holes. There is a wealth of information out there. It used to be so accessible at the click of a button.
You could look up exploded parts diagrams, endless forums, old ancient books that had been digitized. So much good stuff, neatly compiled.
Nothing worth a damn lasts.
There is WayBack Machine.
So much this!!!
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
Charlie: "what do we actually do?
Frank: "I don't follow "
Charlie: "no I mean, what do we make?"
Frank: "we make money "
“We don’t make fucking switching, we make fucking money”
Always Sunny in Philadelphia?
Google, Amazon, Apple, et. al. need to be broken up. This is ridiculous. I'm so sick of everything always trying to sell me something.
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
The situation has gotten crazy. Remember when businessmen could start a company and challenge the top TV station, film company, internet provider, advertising agency? Today no one could challenge Disney, Google, Meta. Even if a startup becomes successful they just get bought out. This thing is broken and the lawmakers are sitting on their asses.
And they don't seem to get or care that if we the people and workers keep getting squeezed the way we're being squeezed, then we can't elfin buy what they're trying to sell.
@@One.Zero.One101 Lawmakers have stocks in these companies.
At least with Apple, you have options to turn off data tracking these days from third-party apps I think it was. I'm switching to iPhone after how bad my galaxy S24 is.. I get so many notifications now.. like as soon as I put my phone down, it does extra notifications, and it's getting feckin ridiculous... with my apples devices it's nowhere near as bad
Change my mind but anything with shareholders that expect continual growth will become evil
My wife works in online advertisement, while everything you say is true, she says it is also awful from the advertisers' point of view, Google wants to run their own "ai optimized crap" that is basically a black box and expects you to pay whatever it says. There are ways to run manually but the lack of transparency is glaring.
Yep, both publishers and advertisers hate google but they all have to deal with their BS because there isn't another choice.
That's the second stage of enshittification : after locking in users, they lock businesses. Then they screw both.
The thing with AI is that the entire product is just a few numbers.
It's much less than the actual training data, and the training time and all the repeats to make a perfect fit.
It's like copying a software, but on steroïds.
Because at the end of the day, no one really even understand the finished ai model.
So, no way in hell the greedy assholes do that.
Yeah, I was basically told in my marketing class that since google has such a monopoly over search engines and advertising if you want to advertise your product online you basically have to pay them whatever they want. Because where else are you gonna advertise? Bing?
@@supersinger9000 BING!! LOL that was a good one
This is the reason why I and many others just bite the bullet and google "How to boil an egg reddit" instead of sifting through the weeds to find an actually good article. Fuck it, some guy on reddit 10 years ago probably had the same question with a solid answer
And then you come across someone who asked it 10 years ago and they got no response. OR they eventually posted a comment saying "nvm, figured it out" and that's it. And because it's already been asked at least once, no one is allowed to ask that question again.
I do this with Wikipedia and Wikihow. 😂😢
Fuck Reddit
Yeah except a lot of that stuff is deleted now. Because they want to control everything everyone says.
Hopefully, advertisers (& political ads) won't figure out how to game Reddit (assuming they haven't already).
Of all the things we've lost in the last 40 years, Strong Anti-trust enforcement is one of the ones I miss most. Strong regulation, creates a healthy ecosystem... no regulation, results in scorched fields where only one dude is standing... hogging all the resources.
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
I learned a thing or two about that anti-trust enforcement while skimming this court document that is very hard to find on Google: ago.mo.gov/wp-content/uploads/missouri-v-biden-ruling.pdf
@@jamesburke2759 Then the challenge is running a secondary infrastructure along the lines of rural Co-Ops that are self-funded... Dealing with anti-competitive laws forced into place by the monopolies in the more urban areas... Almost like we need to hit the reboot button and start from first principles... but as long as money is a driving principle... the end result will be the same. :P
i could be wrong but i heard recently that biden is pushing for more anti-trust and monopoly breaking. that's why google is being sued right now, and i suspect other trusts will be broken. although i know for a fact biden is paid off by big companies because most politicians are, and this may only be in an effort to secure another 4 years. who knows how this will all turn out, i just really hope we get rid of the monopolies
careful what you wish for Mrs We Need More Regulations
On a deeper level, they also removed Boolean functions and changed how others work in such an obscure way that even their official documents don't make it clear
the removal of boolean functions drives me up the wall
Is there a search engine that allows boolean functions?
I thought I was going crazy when boolean functions didn't seem to work anymore.
It's one of those situations where you're like ... Is it me? Am I the fuckup?
@estefencosta1835 Same! It was like "did they change the syntax? am I misremembering how to do it? why isn't this working?"
but no it's just Google making things less useful 🫠
It has gotten so bad, that I returned back to visiting actual libraries when I want to know more complex things. The internet is f‘ed up. You find nothing anymore and the the more smart ish we get the worse it becomes. Back then at least something was searched. Now you get what others think you actually want.
Yep. I've been trying to find something specific, and everywhere I used to look on the internet has become a trash-heap, so I started physically driving from one recommend store to another. Just to ask other humans.
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
I've replaced most google searches with reddit and Quora searches. At least I know the people responding don't have profit incentives
"You find nothing...."
The internet contains the largest collection of freely available, peer-reviewed and organised knowledge in human history.
Thia has been the case for years. They check the words and guess what you actually want or try to force on you something. The problem now is even simple facts are fucked with the implementation of AI.
Ive been complaining about this for years. No one knows wtf I'm talking about
Maybe they use ask geeves?
You’re insane
You are talking to idiots then
Anyone who's run a Google search in the mid 2000s *knows* things are really messed up right now.
Mojeek is by far the closest thing I've seen in recent years, but I think the damage has been done.
yep, been warning/complaining for 20+ yrs.
One google metric I use is, "how far down do I have to scroll to find the Wikipedia entry on this topic?"
It's getting to the point where I often search "*thing* wikipedia" just to get the bloody article
One reason why I switched to DuckDuckGo was the ability to search "*thing* !w" and it would immediately search Wikipedia without extra clicks. They have other shortcuts too, like for TH-cam and Reddit.
@@mystarafilmsIf you know you want wikipedia why not just go to wikipedia? 🤔
@@CerpinTxt87Personally, I use Google to search for Wikipedia entries because the UI is better.
It's especially bad for anything medical or drug related. The wikipedia article on that topic is often like #10 or lower.
Hey, I miss Ask Jeeves. I remember asking him if he was well-endowed. I got a bounce page with an error message “How dare you.”
The really infuriating thing, is you do a search, and it's like "we've found 200,000 results, but we're only going to let you see the first 4 pages". And of course, the first 4 pages are garbage, you know that with all the inverse optimisation that the stuff you're actually looking for probably doesn't start until page 20 or so. But now you're not even allowed to trudge through the garbage until you get to the good stuff, the garbage is all you're allowed to see.
they don't even display the amount of results anymore
Absolutely true. This guy gets it!
Yep, and they're not displaying good, relevant results that you know exist word for word (because you know the site, you just forgot to bookmark it), in favor of some generic crap that they expect to be popular. Even for those niche requests that they used to be excellent at because of the size of their index, and that would seem pretty useless to game, because they're not about anything you'd want to buy. That or SEO has caught up so bad that it can make sites benefit from some equivalent of the old 'having the whole dictionary for keywords' no matter how irrelevant, and not look like they're doing it.
@@childesinthev.761 pin this comment!
Even worse, a lot of results are starting to come back with ZERO hits....sentence long searches with major, broad search terms just comes back with zero results. The more you add to a query now, Google just says, 'fuck off.....buy a vacuum'.
Dude, no one even talks about how trashed the image search function has gotten on Google. It used to be the best, and they keep taking away features left and right for no reason while the search system itself just keeps getting worse and more and more AI driven.
I don’t understand why they took away the feature to find matching images at larger resolutions. It was so useful!
Yeah! As an artist, finding reference images that aren't AI generated garbage is becoming harder and harder. Especially when sites are letting generators sell their trash next to actual art and photos.
@@jamesedenart I used to do a lot of amateur web design for people. Nice way to make an extra $50 in college. Cobbling together custom backgrounds and stuff, buying texture packs for asset use, etc. It is soooo difficult to find those kind of resources now for no reason. Google used to be my go-to for everything because you could filter colour, size, image file type, etc. Well they took away the exact pixel function; the colour filter is not as good as it used to be; you can't search specifically for .jpg or .png or .psd anymore. And yeah, the first however many results are _always_ AI made slop now. It's awful.
Right? I exclusively use Pinterest for image searching now
Google isn't about helping you find things recently, it's about the AD MONEY
worked in a company that specialized in SEO, quit 2 days after having a conversation with one of our writers that said and i quote "if i write an article for any given customer, if there isnt any statistic to prove my point i'll just make it up"
now image a whole department of people doing just that day in and day out.
thought to myself back then that the internet is gonna be useless before long because of SEO, so here we go hypercharge that with AI = web 4.0 aka utter garbage.
I have been saying this for years: There is no "SEO" these days, what we have is "SEO pollution" - This is why the internet kinda sucks today
Greed ruins everything
Even one's appetite
Welcome to capitalism and its infinite growth!
And capitalism is institutionalized greed. It's called capitalism because only capitalists get to participate in any meanijgful way. It's funny, Nancy Pelosi all but said this when asked about her lucrative (insider) stock trading.
@@3nertia Something to keep in mind: The internet costs money to run. And I'm not talking about your monthly cable bill here. Maintaining DNS servers, the high-throughput backbone links between nodes, and the absolutely staggering amount of storage needed for the current internet to exist costs an incredible amount. Of their 237 billion, they spent 225 billion just on their operating costs. Which, while it seems like an insane amount, that's less than 5% of their revenue as profit.
@@Ornithopter470 How did they keep it good before?
I’m a self-taught artist and I used to use google to find outfit ideas and poses to reference. I used to get thousands upon thousands of results, my phone would clog up with the amount of photos I’d saved for later.
Nowadays, I have to slog through thousands of images of crappy AI “art”, non-relevant photos, and the like, I maybe get 10-20 photos per pose/outfit hunt, and that’s on a good day. Often times, I end up finding more AI crap than what I’m looking for, and I didn’t even put “AI” in the search bar. I put “drawing” to hopefully weed it out, but it’s useless now.
by now I just look through my own gallery on my phone or ask other artist friends to see what they've saved
This is so true, I struggle to find the most basic references for art now and it's tragic
When I search for references now the search has an _end._ After, like, 30-70 results Google honest to god straight up claims that there is nothing more to find. And that's just not true! Heck, I've uploaded art _myself_ that is tagged with some of the exact terms I plug into that worthless search engine, but somehow Google thinks it can act like Tumblr and turns a blind eye to all the content that's actually avaliable on the world web filled with BILLIONS of people and BILLIONS of images and posts!
Searches from the 90s to early 10s used to go on forever and remain relevant. And Reverse Image Search actually WORKED and FOUND THE ORIGINAL DATED SOURCES for me! Now they shove limited results that are 60% AI into my face as if I won't notice.
Another horrible technology thing: I just posted a replyin this thread. I cannot see it. It is gone. Maybe it will reappear in several hours. This is a thing that started a few months ago and is happening REGULARLY now.
I used Pinterest for this reason.... However in the recent weeks alot of AI images are popping up there too 😞
Apple is getting sued too. They keep calling their monopoly and abuse on its customers "the ecosystem" and "apple experience". Like not being able to upgrade your storage yourself on your own laptop and Apple charging 5x more on purchase.
Or getting my music out of iTunes!
so glad i never fell into the apple cult
5x is a bit exaggerated, 2x tops. Let’s hope they all get better with legislation and/or litigation
It's not a monopoly.... you have options outside of the apple ecosystem. Nobody is making you use apple hardware, nor are they forcing you to buy it. They also offer plenty of options based on a configuration you might be looking for, but I will agree their pricing isn't very desirable, especially if you're a low income individual.
A monopoly would be apple if they had the only phones and computers in the world and you'd be shit out of luck if it broke, and they still refused to let you repair it.
Google is more of a monopoly than apple could ever be. They've literally taken over the internet and majority of smartphone hardware, while they have the more "open" use cases they still have you right where they want you, using their services with next to no escape.
I'm happy to switch to iPhone 16 pro max. Honestly
@@YogiTheBearMan Nope, in Canadian pricing, storage price is actually 5x the price of buying a whole SSD with similar specs outright.
whenever I search for anything, I expect authoritative sources but I get questionable garbage… and thats ignoring the pictorial shopping ads, the promoted results that don’t fit my search and now the AI summary that I cant trust.
it's the infantilization and willful ignorance of it all that really get's me. yes, if i'm unfamiliar with a topic, it might be a good thing to understand what "vegan" means, but i've already known about them for 12 years, and have been one personally for four years. they treat people as if only those with great IRL networks know about tempeh starters, and that if you want to specifically craft your own, your friend from college has a father who has some equipment. news flash, not everyone has gone to college, many who go to college don't really develop long lasting friendships, and you can count on one hand the friends who have a father in the industry.
"SEO" is literally:
"Once a metric becomes a goal it fails to be a good metric",
lets exploit that
Wow. Do you have a source for this quote? I always butt heads with business people saying they have "the wrong KPI" but this is it.
If a metric is a goal you can detach all human sentiment for it. Ie:
- No need for you to understand what it does (the new kid that catapults SEO effectiveness is considered a hero. Any repercussions down the line are unheard of.)
- and no need to second guess it (as the consensus IS this metric. Going against it just makes you an obstacle.)
@@JdotCarver Many SEOs have said this for many years. And it's not limited to just SEO. It is true in many things that use metrics.
@@JdotCarver This is called Goodhart's Law
Exactly this. My partner recently told me about the metrics they're tracked on at State Farm, and it was because those metrics didn't have targeted goals that I considered them to be pretty good metrics. I worked as a Kroger cashier, and all the metrics I had to reach quotas on were soul-sucking; I pity those who have to make cashiering their career long-term. A good example of this was that I had to try to scan every fruit and vegetable. I was getting yelled at by my manager for memorizing the fruit and vegetable codes that I learned to use through experience and familiarity with the store's products because of the incompetence of other cashiers, and the only reason why I filled my head with arcane esoteric knowledge of specific product codes rather than universally utilitarian concepts in the first place was efficiency, as I was expected to also scan 32 items every minute. I averaged at around 28, and that wasn't good enough. That speed metric was also codswallop, as it forced cashiers to optimize their processes to skew the metric, which made the way they interfaced with customers suffer; if you're punished for not being quick enough, that also punishes you for not being engaging and human enough for customers. I understand that this strikes a delicate balance between speed and service, but I would rather be the one to intuitively check that balance than have it beholden to a BS metric that skews it.
@@JdotCarver It's called Goodhart's law. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart's_law
Bruh, SEO is the literal worst. I wrote for a sports website a few years back selling articles. I'd try to create, well-written articles but my editor would email me back and be like "add the words '2020 NFL Draft' about 20 more times in the 3k word essay you wrote on Jalen Hurts". What's crazy is that the article still shows up on page one of Google when you search those terms and it sucks because the site is full of ads, to the point it's embarrassing to use on my CV.
and now with the AI "summary of results", I've seen a staggering amount of flat out wrong information presented at the top of the search. I hate AI... and capitalism.
Did you see that it's started making recommendations based on articles from The Onion? A screenshot of it saying geologists recommend eating at least one rock a day went viral recently
Now my PHONE is pushing AI on me daily and I can't even turn it off.
Saw one about cockroaches in p*nis
@@InfiniteAnvil
You could always.........stop using google.
Plus get in to the habit of not "go to search engine" for info but already know primary sources, sites etc to go to first.
DuckDuckGo, Google without the ads and without the AI.
This is what happens when a business has control of something that should be a public utility
I'm a 44 year old pediatrician and have always considered myself a "tech guy." I always "Google" in front of parents for information and often we end up in wildly different places. When they reach my "resource" page (say, the CDC or Cleveland Clinic) it's after 4-10 attempts of their own. Notice they have to READ that information FIRST to determine it's not applicable or simply bogus. Also, very well said on the AI search results. My "first" clickable link is usually after the 6th result. It's not "AI" at all and more like a SEO search program working on a marketing commission.
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
If you add &udm=14 onto the end of your search query's URL you get just weblinks, instead of AI garbage and "suggestions" Its like going back to 2011. There are still ads though, sadly.
THANK YOU! I'm not joking one of my masters course leaders literally told us this the other day and wrote it on the board. I was going to photograph it but it was my turn to present and I was Hella nervous already.
What do I add to go back to 2001?
Yeah, though there’s still seo garbage. It mostly just looks cleaner, but it’s still better. You can even set it as your default if you go to your browser settings and set this as your default search engine: www.google.com/search?q=%s&udm=14
@@SeventhSwellThe Twin Towers
@@SeventhSwell a time machine. Cue that collegehumor video "what would really happen if you went back to the 90s"
I worked in the IT field and it is pretty clear to me that everything related to the internet and technology in general peaked around early 2000. Since then all development has been about extracting money from people and distracting them. So much for technology unleashing human potential.
I was a teen then and yea, i was reminicing about the internet of the yesteryear and how just ... good it was compared to now
Sounds like the matrix, but more real. Marketing company kills us not Ai/robots
@truthisfree7297 I work for a big and long standing IT company (laptops, storage, servers, that kinda stuff) for about 10 years.
and the amount of nonsense that comes from R&D, Sales and generally from top down, is just fucking atrocious.
from the cloud (regular storage presented through the internet) over "AI" TM (which is a repurposed number cruncher build to play jeopardy) to slowly removing any human involved in the support and servicing of their products.
it's all about that sweet sweet cash.
$230 billion a year isn’t enough for these jerks. I’m sick of GREED. We need a law against wanton greed like virtually all companies are guilty of practicing.
An idiotic example on TH-cam that actually hurts their advertisements is: If you DO NOT skip the first advertisement, you'll get a second and maybe a third ad.
In the OLD days, I would let the 5~15sec AD play as a way for the YTubber to make a penny or whatever YT used to pay.
Remember when there used to be an AD every 2-3 videos? Now it's 2-3 ads per 15min videos or worse.
Those were the old days? I remember when TH-cam didn't have video ads at all.
@@GenerationX1984 I didn't start using yt until around 2010. Not a regular until 2015.
i remember being annoyed at easily closeable small ad banners over the seekbar while a video plays. now they take up the whole screen, is almost always unskippable, and takes priority over the video itself
That thing were it plays more ads or a stupidly long ad if you don't skip the first one pisses me off
@@Marbejablah I think the countdown timer runs a little slower than real time. Those 5 seconds never feel like 5 seconds.
Ed Zitron on his Better Offline podcast wants everyone to remember the name of Prabhakar Raghavan, the former head of Ads at Google, who is now head of Search. He's almost entirely responsible for Google search being the cesspool it currently is.
I interviewed for a job at Google about ~7 years ago. One of the questions was about how I would put more ads into gmail. I then proceeded to say I wouldn't recommend it, gave a bullshit answer about A-B testing, and intentionally flubbed the rest of the interview. I'd love a Google salary, but my soul isn't for sale at any price.
@@DouglasWatt Thank you for your service.
I've been saying for years now that "the internet just 'felt' better before", and that while I can't quite put my finger on it, I know something's changed. And people just kept telling me that my perception was being altered by nostalgia, as they always do.
I hate how people nowadays are so gaslighty. They keep acting as if nothing weird has ever happened in the world. 😡
if they are significantly younger or older than you, or weren't all that tech savvy in the first place, it might not be their intention, as they might have never had that experience that you did. could also be that they've switched to the new tools that block all the junk that your seeing. it's more informative to ask what tools people are using, and why. a site you once trusted might not have the same people running it, the same workers using the same techniques. it's worth it to keep yourself fresh and on the lookout for different things that might work better.
Meanwhile literally every day somethng wild is going down. Ex: We don't even blink when entire towns are flooded out, in areas where this never happens. Doesn't even make the news. EVERY AT&T customer's data was just stolen. crickets
@@KstoneCreator as they say, don't waste a crisis. plus, since sinclair has bought up so many stations, those who do blink, don't stay in one place for very long.
Google's more like an old phone book. Before you could search for a subject and get an encyclopedia, but now you search for something and get the Yellow Pages.
Think the quote that fits Google most right now is, "You either die a hero...or live long enough to become the villain."
live long and prosper.
The internet is the world's largest shopping mall. Google just figured out how to be a landlord.
That's an amazing analogy
Yeah dude, that's cool as shit.
That's the problem, though. It's supposed to be a shopping mall AND a library AND a cocktail party where you can find people with the same interests as you.
I sew. It is both hilarious and aggravating that if I search for, say, how to draft a bag pattern for my laptop, I will have to do several creative searches, all the while being presented with laptop bags for sale WHICH DON'T SUIT MY NEEDS. Which I've already determined, and that's why I'm searching for information on how to make my own in the first place.
This comment is on the spot
Nope bc it is the ONLY way to PURCHASE GOODs. You don’t have to use a shopping mall to buy stuff even when they were popular you had outlets, stores, second -hand, for sale from newspaper. This is far more dangerous. Thats a lazy way of saying they own our way of Researching and bc they get to bc this country has been so deregulated and tax -cutted to death(thanks to the GOP 6x CORP cuts for 1% Including Dump’s 21% flat CTR the lowest in >100 yrs that requires a 90% POV RATE TO FEED IT) to create the Fake $B welfare queen class from our taxes and wages & has elected ITSELF for 50+ yrs)we allowed Crap Capitalism to re-Monopolize our country into the Robber Barron MAGA racist slave dream Reagan promised in 1980. We can’t buy CRITICAL commodities unless it’s thru just a HANDFUL of corps CARTELS like Amazon, Apple, Walmart, etc and they all suck. And we can’t RESEARCH and get True results bc it’s all for sale. Get it? You have no idea how much more choice we had when we actually trust busted these pigs, or what QUALITY & craftsmanship was and the fact that you think this is HUMOROUS when we are slipping into mass EXTINCTION & F**CISM BC OF IT, is really horrifying! This is the least Free Market, trickle-down system since 1900, when we had >90% POVERTY. Thats the future btw. This country needs nationalized News, SEARCH ENGINE, Healthcare, Social media, phone service, etc as a choice to compete with PRIVATE sector not be one in the same thing. Wake the F Up. We can’t communicate, can’t go to Schools, post office, prison, and just about every facet of govt without it being gouged and monopolized for PROFIT which, guess what, make GOVT, the ECONOMY and its citizenry Far Worse bc nothing is more bureaucratic, INEFFICIENT, INEFFECTIVE, EXPENSIVE than Privatized Govt or relying on Crony Fake “Free Market 😅😂😂” lies to run a system and believing that a corp Cartel will ever care about anyone but itself and its shareholders! . When Reagan said “run it like a business “. He meant INTO THE GROUND. 50 years of Recession/Depression Cartelism is Ending us permanently. Ha ha right?
I legit did a double take when I heard "the DOJ sued google". Truly a fantastical rarity, corporations held accountable. Hope it sticks.
It's rare but not that rare. Microsoft had its business regulated because of anti-trust issues in the 1990s with their browser in every computer. AT&T was broken up because it was a monopoly. There are other examples. Maybe too few, but it's not as rare as finding a unicorn.
I run a small website, just static files. I go out of my way to have zero ads, just some affiliate links, and that’s more for just learning on my end. I’m constantly struggling with SEO and I hate it so much. Plus, I’m getting a ton of email from Google saying I have a bunch of free credits for ad placements for my site. For what?
SEO as a concept is just so dumb, too. They have a set of unpublished rules, all of which change slightly for no reason every so often, and it basically creates a market for SEO marketers and creators that shouldn’t even exist. And then when Google’s search console tells you something wasn’t indexed, it gives you a reason akin to a teenager saying “I didn’t like it because.”
"Have you noticed lately that Google sucks ass?"
Me: "What do you mean lately?"
it always takes a while for things to become sufficiently painfully obvious that it cant really be denied anymore
😂
It's definitely gotten significantly worse over the past year and even the past few months.
@@SharienGaming boiling frogs
last 5-10yrs
Growing up, i loved tech. Now, i am barely interested. I grew up seeing how much essier and better it could make our lives, just to see the reality that it is instead wielded against us.
Same, my husband and I are 41 and we used to love tech, IT, the Internet and videogames and now we hate it and try to cultivate IRL friends and non tech hobbies. He does board games and I read a lot and knit.
@@JoyBush hell yeah!
Okay guys, good break.. now I need you to get back to work on ROKOs basilisk.
Same. I used to be excited about new tech coming out, now there is nothing like a new developement to get my depression going. Like, in what new and interesting ways are we getting screwed with this time?
Yeh thats what capitalism does. The goal is to produce capital, nothing more.
Right now, on my web browser, I have: ad block, link tracker blocking, a site blacklist that mostly has AI garbage pages, and a non-google search engine. And that makes things tolerable, but I shouldn't need to go through so many hoops to make being on the internet not The Worst Thing.
set up a locally hosted site directory for the things you go to. Security things (trackers/ads and the like) should be done on the router/modem before your computer ever even gets the data, because it's that disease ridden.
Can you also teach the other 98% of internet users how to do all that and set it up themselves on every device?
I'll wait for you to teach grandma. 😅
@@apexnext well, I personally can't, but the tutorials exist.
Use Duck Duck Go
There was an extension that let you filter Google search url results
Advertisers running the show and dishonest articles are ruining the Internet. But the problem is far older than the Internet. Back in the days of newspapers there was yellow journalism.
I also remember hearing that Mark Twain said something about being a successful editor has never had anything to do with actually knowing anything except how to sell
while advertisers and marketers have always been a problem, there are time, skill, method and product shifts that both customers and advertisers have to get used to. it's in this "getting used to" phase that tends to be more advantageous to the customer, as now the old tricks have become obvious, and the new tricks aren't fully formed and online yet.
The profit motive is the problem.
I've worked in SEO. I've also worked making fake job adverts for a recreuitment company to get peoples info. Both felt disgusting to me.
In my time as an SEO content strategist, I always insisted that the *main point* was to have good quality content first. The SEO strategy was just making sure we didn't make our way out of the results pages from wording or hierarchy choices.
Wow, that’s awesome. What company is it so I can love them and give them all my money and not send a flaming bag of dog shit to the CEO’s door?
@@chrislee-if5iq i also have kosher gifts to send their way too 👀
What is even worse is that today some companies demand the governments in different countries to run down their social security systems in order to get those covered by social security to apply for these fake jobs more efficiently and more eagerly. And this is what these companies call a "labor shortage", but without the intention of hiring any of the applicants, instead they reduce and lay off existing employees at the same time because "expenditures must be cut" and "demand has decreased." It's a really dirty and inhumane game, but since the companies pay for the politicians' elections and hire lobbyists, the public have no power to stop it.
Did you at least get paid decently for it?
Ex SEO writer here. I genuinely wrote good quality content, but was also forced (by the client) to create "shadow" sites and blogs that were just keyword blurbs to strengthen the real site/blog. I felt so dirty and unethical, even if I new that the real content people would see was done well bc of my research and source selection, but I know most people don't do even this, the bare minimum. I hate algorithms, they are the shit ruining the internet and all apps. Now, if I ever actually apply any SEO stuff, it's just actual relevant keywords placed in coherent ways to make for a soft organic bump, but I don't sacrifice the quality of my writing or my readers' time just so someone else can join the barf battle.
Would you be willing to give a lesson to a struggling artisan jeweler? I'm disabled and taught myself to make jewelry, come to find out I should have focused on seo
Algorithms are ruining more than just apps or the internet. They're destroying politics and our mental health as well.
@@Celestial_Reachif you want to reach clients for a small business i’d recommend utilizing social media, especially TikTok. Lately making any new site rank is a nightmare, and even companies struggle with it, so ranking personal site with no history may not be worth effort for you
Sites that do that are exactly what kills the ethical businesses who refuse to. It's hard to watch, especially when it's your own business slowly sliding down the rankings to these guys. It makes it a real struggle to maintain your own ethics.
No, you weren't forced to do that, unless they pointed a gun at you. And the world becomes what you make out of it. The point is that you gamed the system, and because of that it all became worse for all of us.
The balls on this man.
Going to make an anti-Google video, on Google's own platform.
Didn't used to be owned by Google😁
They are too powerful. Adam's video won't be a threat to their monopoly.
Alphabet is a monopoly. They don't have to care
There's actually quite of them.
Google doesn't really own this platform either - their shareholders do ;)
That's one of the things I've noticed... Antitrust laws are not being enforced like they should. Monopolies have become a global issue. Meanwhile, great video. Entertaining yet informative.
Answer: Corporate Greed
Corporate Greed kills the world
My youtube homepage is getting worse and worse. It's like google wants to ruin every platform they own
It's best to instal plug-ins that block recommendations, etc. Just use your subscriptions page as your youtube homepage.
It's not for you, you're the product. Google's customers are the advertisers who buy your data from them.
@@pumpkinhill4570 That's what I do. Going to the subscription page. Otherwise it would be all chaos.
Google search is definitely a lot shitter now
Yandex is awesome. The best search engine
really went downhill around 2016 or so. one good thing about it is that i don't find anything embarrassing when i search my name.
Give it a few more hours. Then you will see what shitty really means.
I ended up going to the last page, and didn’t even find what I needed.
Image search just ...gives up, on page 2 or 3 now for me. Just zero results after a certain point. Pretty nuts that this is THE option.
Agree. Google has pretty much abandoned old SEO practices and instead favors their AI driven garbage to deliver search results. Like you said, add “Reddit” to any query if you want a real answer to a question.
One of the major concerns I have with algorithms controlling what people see is how it's a reintroduction of the gatekeeper. Before the Internet the only information available to most people was what they saw on TV, heard on the radio, or read in a magazine or newspaper. Beyond that we could look something up in a library. But for all of this, there was some monetary threshold that had to be crossed in order to get that information.
The Internet broke all such barriers, and any information could be shared and spread. Now that information wildfire is being snuffed out by these algorithms. Resulting in echo chambers and furthering the stifling of ideas.
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
You are correct, gate keeping is what they are doing. There is information on the internet that the owners of these companies don't want you to see or read. The reasons are 100% political.
tiktok being banned, not for unique and specific reasons that are unique to the chinese government, but are shared by the US government, is political censorship in all but name. we are their property, and no one get's to tell us things without their permission. abusive boyfriend 101. isolate, gatekeep, DARVO and gaslight.
There used to be a 'discussion" tab on Google when searching so you could get stuff like forums. But then they got rid of it and now we have a shopping tab.
other search engines brought that feature back. I use kagi and it works amazingly
the irony is Google still shoves the "shopping" down your throat, even without clicking the shopping tab!!
i used to just type "forums" at the end of my search before. now i just type reddit at the end lol
Why was my comment with legitimate suggestions for alternative search browsers deleted? I will say again that Kagi and searxng both have the capability to search forums and Reddit posts through a discussion tab. Look into them if interested.
@@Ammut6 yea let's hope Reddit doesn't get ruined as well
Plot twist: they didn't make it better for advertisers. We advertisers hate it. It was better for us when Google put the ad results in a clearly visible position on the side. The ecosystem sucks now and has for years.
This guy speaks for all advertisers.
@@romdotdog this guy assumes everyone is a man.
They made it as optimised as possible for themselves to earn money off the advertisers (and the users). Apparently it's good enough that your fellow advertisers are still happy to pay Google ridiculous amounts of money so it's here to stay
@@tjrgwnfktwbag I think we'd love to go somewhere else, but there is kind of nowhere else to go. If you're not on Google, like Adam said, you're not anywhere. And, as he also said in the video, without regulation, individual advertisers can't really change this. You go where the public is. The public is using Google. Because the public also has no choice :D although with the amount of videos on this topic for the past month, I wonder if some changes aren't on the horizon. I haven't seen so many people be so unhappy about the state of it, which is good.
It's so full of fraud, and lead generation companies that just try to capture all the traffic and make you pay them for the leads. The cost of advertising is going up and the benefits are going down.
Regulation that actually works, needs to be evolved, as someone who's witnessed FCC CE FTC carrying logos in Android cellphones that exploded, Microsoft PCs that endured BSoDs, failed hardware and software, and over advertising and irrelevance needs to be checked. Having evolved in the US free market economy Google can and should enable votes, choices, options, reporting, cataloguing and documenting service requests like " Please do not show paid for or sponsored content" or an option that breaks down the costs ( product service cost, ad cost, spend cost, discount) and other details on a product. The more transparent Google gets, maybe, better?
The Director of the FTC, Lina Kahn, runs the tiny department that is tasked with enforcing Anti-Trust laws against the largest players and she is doing a wonderful job for the people. Know her and support her!
I don't live anywhere near her, not even in the same country. How do you expect me to get to know her and support her?
@@whwhywhywhywhywhywhy Email could work. Read news sources (Some still exist) and share with people you know. Figure out if something similar exists in your country and donate your money or time to them.
The supreme court keeps fucking with her because she doesn't bend over for corporations.
SCOTUS keep attacking her because she goes after corporations
I once had an issue with The Weather Channel app where videos from that app kept playing while I was trying to watch a TH-cam video. When I tried to Google the issue, all I got were 5-star reviews for the Weather Channel app.
I am EXHAUSTED by ads. They are absolutely everywhere. On Google, on TH-cam. Now, even though I PAY for Amazon Prime, I'm going to start getting ads in the movies i rent. Im sick to death of being harassed to purchase total CRAP.
My mom didn’t believe me when I said I was getting ads on Amazon all of a sudden. Had to send her a video…
Small note for anyone not familiar with SEO, al ot of SEO is super shady, but some elements of it are a good thing. For example, page speed/load times, and accessibility features play into a website's search ranking. These are things that sites should care about and work to improve.
The moment they rebranded the company Alphabet, that is red flag super villain move right there. They need to be broken up, that’s a fact.
Blackwater rebranded as Academi. Then you have Amazon and Apple.
If massive, scummy corporations gravitate toward the letter A just for for the hell of it, one day the stock exchange will look like the beginning of a phonebook
“Like Microsoft *used* to do”… so… who wants to tell what Microsoft has been up to in the video game space?
Oh, CouncilofGeeks in the wild!
Not a lot. Mostly trying to stop some games being PS exclusive, but that's about it. Ya, Sony can be evil too. Sony made some rule that Minecraft multiplayer games couldn't cross PS/XBOX boundaries but could with Nintendo. They are also porting some Activision games to Nintendo for the first time to prove they want the exclusivity culture to end, something that Sony hates.
@@BrendanR403 If by "not a lot" you mean going on a buying spree of rival studios and shutting them down, sure. It's catch and kill for gaming.
Remember when they purchased Rareware, Bethesda, and Activision, just to continue to not make games? Classic. We should definitely let them buy Steam. I’m sure THIS time it will be different
@@BrendanR403 Over ten thousand people were fired for no good reason, after they claimed to want to hire more.
Most major tech/game companies have been bad for different reasons. Microsoft is killing successful studios faster than EA ever did.
The ai is trash and I feel like the TH-cam algorithm wants to drive TH-cam shorts down your throat.
It absolutely does.
I can't get over how the TH-cam algorithm almost universally chooses the one video on the long list of suggested videos that I would want to watch the least to take over the player when the video ends. It almost feels like people are paying for placement rather than it actually making logical choices.
If you ever want proof the AI algorithm sucks, here's how you can ruin your recommended videos in 3 easy steps.
1. Watch any Simpsons clip.
2. Watch any Family Guy clip.
3. Watch any video related to Marvel/DC.
Congrats, enjoy trying to get that stuff out of your recommended. There's definitely other ways to ruin your recommended, but those three will change like 80% of your feed to those topics.
@@ownplz5632 I pay for premium, sadly. But no, I'm talking about the video it puts there to click when you're trying to rewind or replay the video.
@@HiSodiumContentI was liking fandom stuff like 5ish years ago and it still comes up on my feed to this day
according to wikipedia: " Between 21 April and 4 May 2018, Google removed the motto from the preface, leaving a mention in the final line: "And remember... don't be evil, and if you see something that you think isn't right - speak up"
Predictably, everyone who spoke up was fired.
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
@@jamesburke2759If you have the knowledge and connections to pull this off, by all means, go for it. Just be aware that the majority of content is hosted by the large corporations and they want to retain control.
Riot
@@peenchay_whetto2333 I dont have alot of skill and i dont really have any major connections but im sure neither did the 2 guys that made google in their shed. or the small teams of 10 or so that made the greatest games of all time. we now have a day and age that we either do something about it or turn into a wall-E cross Stupify world. I can talk to people here. if i spark someone's idea then my job is done.
The other thing is, 'Don't sell out.' Literally, keep your startup a private company, and don't sell it in an IPO. Don't go public. I don't know how to do this, but make some kind of 'trust' arrangement, where, if you do sell it to some PRIVATE buyer, they'll be required to follow certain rules to keep the character of your company the same as it was, or something; otherwise, if they violate the trust, they can no longer keep the 'goodwill' of using your original company name.
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
So basically you're selling all of the company's assets except its trademark
@@vitoc8454 Maybe, but I haven't really thought this through in detail. If I ever did it in real life, I'd want to talk to somebody who could think through all the complexities of it. I just think it's deceptive to pretend to be the same company they were, when in essence, they aren't, and the original founders get all the blame directed at them, when actually, they weren't so bad compared to the board of directors and the shareholders and all that came later, after the IPO. You get all these influences from places like China or somewhere that are not necessarily acting in the best interests of the general public of the USA, and those people start influencing the boards of directors. Or, you can even get competitors from other companies who are actively sabotaging the company deliberately, serving on boards of directors.
reddit has gone public now and has been getting worse year on year as a platform. After not long adding “reddit” to your search term wont even help anymore.
You could look into zeiss for that. The main zeiss company is owned by a nonprofit research institute that has in its founding statutes that they aren't allowed to sell any fraction of the company
I remember the day they dropped the “don’t be evil” slogan. I specifically remember thinking ‘oh no, the future is gonna kinda suck’
Dystopian
Keywords have very little to do with placement. Google’s primary ranking mechanism is the number of high quality inbound links. The problem is that companies now create several websites of the same content, dominating those links, and propelling themselves to the top, regardless of if they’re the best or not. That’s the real issue and it sucks
I remember hearing the SEO acronym for the first time, around 2005 or so and thinking to myself "why the hell is everyone just OK with this??" after watching the whole IT community basically ignore and shrug it off. And boy howdy, how little did I realize how surreal data collection would get just a few years later
The thing is, SEO started out as "here's how you get your website in compliance with internet standards so web crawlers can see you", then it quickly moved towards its inevitable purpose of participating in a perpetual arms race against Google's algorithm by using secret tricks to get to the top search result. In 2005, Google was completely on board with the idea that all you should need to do is create a quality website with good content and Google would fight for you on the other side of that arms race. Obviously that stopped happening and the cheap content farms won 😕
It’s because the IT Community (broadly speaking) is full of minnows that think they’re sharks. I’ve worked in IT my entire adult life and have run into most of the pretentious people I’ve ever met at work. Many of the problems that plague the industry are because there was a badge of honor in figuring out work around for shitty systems rather than fixing the core system.
@@Papercut625 Isn't that the hard truth. Tech-oriented people take such great pride in their ability to 'solve problems,' yet they often fail to see the deforestation that ends up being a direct consequence of their (collective) efficient destruction of a piece of bark.
Pretentious doesn't quite capture it-more like ironically, childishly, destructively arrogant.
@@pocket83squared the last paragraph says it all, and it's why I left the field a long time ago
The other day I googled whether I could get a new pack of birth control if I lost the pack and the ENTIRE front page was articles addressing what to do if you miss one pill -- it was surreal.
Yeah, google doesn't actually use what you type in it uses what it thinks you meant so that it doesn't have to actually search and just show you a previous search instead.
Probably means that too few people ask your question.
@@Leto2ndAtreides Not how a search engine is supposed to work
@@Leto2ndAtreides that's crazy to me. I can't imagine it's an uncommon situation
Not to defend Google's shit algorythm, but the answer as to whether you lost a pack entirely or missed only a pill would be very much related. If you lose the entire pack, depending on what week of your cycle you're one you should purchase a new one and continue taking it from the pill after the last you took as if nothing happened, or if you were advanced on your cycle, you could just have the placebo pills right away, have your period and then start a new pack. So the answer for a missed pill could help a bit here.
I did an Google SEO class at an old job I had and saw the scam first hand. When I became a consultant afterwards I always advised against using Google SEO seeing the writing on the wall on what the internet and Google was becoming. SEO ruining the internet, search engines, and is the biggest wasteful company spending especially for small and mid sized businesses.
SEO done right is actually capable of being the single biggest driver of growth, revenues and profits for companies. I've done that for companies for a very long time, and SEO and other "non-paid" marketing channels (channels that are not traditional paid advertising channels) deliver the highest ROI by far. It just generally takes more time and effort than running ads, but ads are often not profitable until a certain level, so ads are actually often seen as a loss leader at least at first. And SEO is what can keep a company in business and well ranked for many years, even if they don't have a relatively big ad budget.
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
The US recently removed those non-compete laws preventing this kind of monopolization btw.
Joke's on the advertisers: my employer doesn't pay me nearly enough to even consider buying your name-brand products or services.
i don't know how anyone keeps up with trends anymore. they're just bleeding us dry of every last cent
@@beesquestionmark exactly- why are you trampling people at Trader Joe's for a tiny bag when you could just... not? Or buy from a small business who makes better bags for a lower price- or even the same price but you're actually supporting the person making it
@@CaptCinna I can get a tiny bag on the streets,.......with no sales tax ;)
@@CaptCinna it's often because that small business has locations in oregon, california and arizonia, meanwhile your in Nebraska. while shipping and company websites does ameliorate this quite often even for foreign goods like specialty Japanese matcha, there are often say german goods that just don't have availability in the USA, due to lawsuits by..... you guessed it, local small businesses or the big chains. even if your on zaqq's instead of trader joes, there are geographical locks that are a bish to overcome, if you can even overcome them. scarcity mindset does terrible things to people, and our system not only uses natural scarcity but artificial scarcity to increase hype, competition and disorientation. we are not immune, merely have taken mitigation efforts.
I'm still salty Google cost me my job, I just got there & was a rater for 6 months when the news dropped.
What job?
Having an ad introducing a service that offers to delete your information online so ads can’t spam you in the middle of a video discussing how ads ruined the internet is pretty on the nose.
This is ironic. Just a few hours ago while I was still asleep I was dreaming about trying to find something on google and I couldn’t find it despite how easy of the words I put in. I was getting so mad lol. And that happens often in the real world, too. It’s like “why am I getting back results that have nothing to do with what I am looking for?”
Google search has sucked for years....
Yep, why haven't you recommended Yandex as an alternative?
I love comments like this where you can tell someone didn't watch the video. At all.
@@morganqorishchi8181 Yandex is still really good
well, about 5 or so years now. corporate lobbying allowed for this. corporate lobbying should have been banned long ago but then we all need to understand lobbying and bribing are two different things.
His suggestion of adding "reddit" isn't likely to yield much better results, given that there is no way to verify the qualifications of the person posting. It's also pretty heavily inundated with AI posts and bots anyway, it's been complete garbage for years. Fine if you want help with a specific tech issue, but that's about it.
Its getting to the point where its annoying to downright creepy af like big brother stuff. I literally turn my Google Mic and Webcam off most of the time now along with location service like my phone. Every little shit I looked up during the day, even random thingss that I said , its like an echo that comes back at me. The advertisement on my Google page comes back generating leads on just about everything that I thought about , its like a horror movie , a ghost tryna stalk you.
Seriously. I was offline for a week to go to a festival and I come back to youtube recommendations related to speakers from that festival. Now, I don't mind seeing those, but I am 100% sure I hadn't in any way informed google I would appreciate it if I got to do my own filling in of search terms. It's like going to a restaurant you've never been to and your food is already ready. It is creepy and disrespectful to shatter my illusion of free will like that.
Stalking is the right word
My head is spinning at the idea of recursive AI hallucination barf being the fundamental output of Google search results.
Recursive AI output will pee in its own mouth as its only nutrition. This will literally break the internet and it’s well on its way now. This will leave a new innovator to pick up the pieces- and it’s going to happen soon.
What a cursed thing that the second page has gone from the no go zone to necessary in many cases
Well, it remained necessary to me throughout years. Google had very short periods of excellent results and short periods of good results, but most of the times is was meh results. Now they are flush-the-toilet results in most of the times.
it always bothers me that when i google a question, the first hits I get that aren't sponsored are quora and reddit.
We need 3 catagories for search engines:
1) Product/Market
2) Info (acedemic, public company information, news and so on, all non publicly editable)
3) Web sites
I like this idea a lot.
I work in marketing as an SEO Copywriter and its miserable. Its pretty clear from the keywords what people are looking for, but my company doesn't provide those results but we still have to use the key words because thats what is ranking highest. But we're also constantly fighting with websites that are just.. paying google more money to rank even when they don't have ANY content on their websites either. The whole thing is just so damn frustrating.
The government won't help, its up to us now! What do we do? The problem is not confined to the USA, its worldwide. Let's do something? can we create a local server that can connect to other servers like a torrent that hosts an open source AI search that is completely free? I know about that crappy wallet and that smelly drink bottle so launching a new free search should be easy to get into public hands.
@@jamesburke2759 can you stop copy-pasting this on every goddamn comment? jesus christ, man.
Here's something you can do: don't be part of the problem. Stigmatize working for advertising and related problems. Make it hard for them to hire. Would you work for a major polluter or the prison industrial complex?
As an SEO analyst. I'm in a similar boat. I do my best to give my writers good foundations to start from so that while they are using competitive keywords they at least are in line with the products and services offered by the company
@@csn583 Even if all 120,000 copywriters in the US quit today. That still wouldn't change Google's practices mate. I have no idea how you're justifying this nonsense in your head, but that isn't a valid solution.
We live in a weird alternate universe where even Bing is more useful than Google.
This is why I end every search entry with "wikipedia". That way I know I will at least get peer-reviewed content.
Wikipedia uses Reddit as citations...
More like peer reviewed lies. Checkout local historic buildings. Wikipedia will make up a story that it was "founded" in 1892, then it has a fire, they rebuilt it 2 yes later. That's a damn lie. All across the world it does it. They will cluster some of the magic fires around 1776 or just match up areas and buildings to sound reasonable.
@@williamyoung9401citations are important.
@@williamyoung9401 Which ones do in wikipedia?
@@williamyoung9401 No, It doesn't
5:30 "You know who wrote those words!"... "THE FOUNDERS, OF GOOGLE!?" When you screamed that in abject dismay laughed a lot.
The start of a website article is so true. Looking for info on how to get a game running or how to do this or that action in a game, the page starts with a paragraph detailing what the game is. Then the second paragraph has something like "This naturally makes the game super popular and more players mean that players have been looking into options how to customize their experience" and other nonsensical bullshit. Then after a paragraph-sized ad, the third paragraph finally starts talking about the actual subject-matter. But usually to get there you get bombarded with all free space filled with ads, maybe some pop-up to whitelist the site or some subscription plan and then the "do you want to allow the site to send you browser notifications?" (I don't know who ever allows that to happen).
Lots of people talking about how trash google images is lately. When I was younger looking at fanart on google images was literally what I did for fun. Look up a character look at art for hours, no exaggeration. Now I can't scroll for more than one page without google deciding it somehow ran out of images of increasingly general terms.