These topo solids don’t really seem like they’re very good at doing actual civil work. It feels like they’re just meant to make architectural plans look pretty. It would be nice to be able to link a civil 3-D surface and have it behave like a topo solid in Revit while maintaining a link to the surface so as the project progresses, you can get updated surface. You can do all that now but the surface doesn’t behave like a topo solid.
I just installed RVT 2024 and figured out that I have to find totally other workflow for landscaping and ground works than I had before with toposurfaces. Removing building pads really hit me hard in this matter. I understand how to work with flat topography, it's more complicated with voids but whatever. Problems begins when I have sloped topography, where I need to cut the ground on on side and fill on the other side. I still have not found a good solution for that. The basic one is to modify sub-elements, though this method is really bad because I am messing up the original topography which I have from survey on global scale, not locally where I need it. Also there is no more split tool for topography and if I have for example 20 land plots in single project I have to manually build the toposolid for each one of them and than cut them according to property lines. It's a pain 😒😒. Changing to toposolids is okay, I get it. But why was it necessary to remove building pads, split/merge topography and etc. Cm'on
This it the big issue I'm facing as well. I design homes on mountain lots and this a mandatory workflow I have to figure out. I need to to be a flow were I can move the house up and down and rotate it on the lot quickly. Really questioning whether I can move my projects into 2025.
If the building slab is a few feet above the primary toposolid, how do you fill in the earth in the model from top of topo to underside of raised slab?
hello - an other brilliant videao - thanks Question: I would like to have the site (the toposolid) in one project file and the building(s) in seperate files. The idea is that this alows me to move the buildings around the site to find the best location. Is there a way to cut the toposolid with elements from a linked project? Or is my aproach a bad one in the first place?
I get what you mean, but I've never had a project that needs excavation details and still doesn't have a fixed location... locating the building is usually one of the first steps of a project while excavation is dependent on the site AFTER fixing the building location to reduce adjacent buildings or pipes or roads interference.
Having a separate project file is an excellent workflow, especially for larger projects that might have several buildings on the same site (separate project files for each building). This also has the added benefit for keeping your files sizes smaller. However, you cannot cut the toposolid with elements from a linked file. I've even tried the copy/monitor function under the collaboration menu to copy/monitor the building elements that I want to cut from the toposolid, but only Levels, grids, columns, walls and floors are able to be copy/monitored. So anything in a structural foundation category could not be used. If you ask me, this is a serious deficiency in Revit.
Topography HAS to be a different file in real life projects. The topography defines the georeference of the project and the architecture moves around the topography during the project process. Optimal positioning of the building in the terrain (horizontally and vertically) is part of the design process and it's an iterative thing
I tried my absolute best with your last TH-cam video on toposolids to covert the "Office Building Site" from the beginner course Office Building. I made no progress. After converting it to 2024, converting the toposurface to toposolid, deleting the top layer. Once I link it to my office project it always turns into a large linked object I cannot do anything with.
Thank you Snr Balkan Architect. Always very helpful. I'm busy doing a huge site which requires detailed earthworks planning. How does this method effect the net cut/fill of the original toposolid? If it's not reliable then so be it. But if it is, that would be so bloody helpful! And I would buy you a coffee if you're ever in Rome.
To answer my own question after some experimentation. Cutting a toposolid with another toposolid does not affect the cut/fill values. But you can use the volume of the cutting topsolid instead of the the 'cut' value. However this volume would be affected when you cut out the foundations from it. But if you created a new graded region from that excavation for the backfill phase you can get it all to work. You just have to manage your phases well. That way you can get accurate grading, excavations and backfill. Wonderful. I love revit. ❤
Hello everyone! I miss the Construction Platform command. How can I make a soil fill in a clean and orderly way in a similar way? Playing with masses and toposolids I find cumbersome and slow........ Very good video as always ! Best regards!
Couldn't you have just made the void geometry as a solid geometry (in a toposolid category) and change the type of toposolid to new earth instead? I've never tested it but adding the void manually to me feels like adding extra unnecessary steps
I believe you can't modify the in-place model later the way you change heights and add points or edges of regular toposolid ... imagine having a more complicated site.
You're simply the best, thank you so much!!!
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Thank u so simple so helpful as always!
These topo solids don’t really seem like they’re very good at doing actual civil work. It feels like they’re just meant to make architectural plans look pretty. It would be nice to be able to link a civil 3-D surface and have it behave like a topo solid in Revit while maintaining a link to the surface so as the project progresses, you can get updated surface. You can do all that now but the surface doesn’t behave like a topo solid.
I just installed RVT 2024 and figured out that I have to find totally other workflow for landscaping and ground works than I had before with toposurfaces. Removing building pads really hit me hard in this matter. I understand how to work with flat topography, it's more complicated with voids but whatever. Problems begins when I have sloped topography, where I need to cut the ground on on side and fill on the other side. I still have not found a good solution for that. The basic one is to modify sub-elements, though this method is really bad because I am messing up the original topography which I have from survey on global scale, not locally where I need it. Also there is no more split tool for topography and if I have for example 20 land plots in single project I have to manually build the toposolid for each one of them and than cut them according to property lines.
It's a pain 😒😒. Changing to toposolids is okay, I get it. But why was it necessary to remove building pads, split/merge topography and etc. Cm'on
This it the big issue I'm facing as well. I design homes on mountain lots and this a mandatory workflow I have to figure out. I need to to be a flow were I can move the house up and down and rotate it on the lot quickly. Really questioning whether I can move my projects into 2025.
If the building slab is a few feet above the primary toposolid, how do you fill in the earth in the model from top of topo to underside of raised slab?
Very helpful.
Informative. Thanks
Thanks !
Hello mister Balkan, is there a way to fill like when you used to place a platform let's say 1 meter above the topography?
create another toposolid
THANK YOU
I think you can simply use filled region to cut topo in section when you are not really considering BIM
Thanks you for your sharing sir. Could you share how to find excavation volume(m3) with revit.
Is there a solution to cutting the footings when multiple building files are linked into the master file, which contains the toposolid?
hello - an other brilliant videao - thanks
Question:
I would like to have the site (the toposolid) in one project file and the building(s) in seperate files. The idea is that this alows me to move the buildings around the site to find the best location.
Is there a way to cut the toposolid with elements from a linked project?
Or is my aproach a bad one in the first place?
I get what you mean, but I've never had a project that needs excavation details and still doesn't have a fixed location... locating the building is usually one of the first steps of a project while excavation is dependent on the site AFTER fixing the building location to reduce adjacent buildings or pipes or roads interference.
Having a separate project file is an excellent workflow, especially for larger projects that might have several buildings on the same site (separate project files for each building). This also has the added benefit for keeping your files sizes smaller.
However, you cannot cut the toposolid with elements from a linked file. I've even tried the copy/monitor function under the collaboration menu to copy/monitor the building elements that I want to cut from the toposolid, but only Levels, grids, columns, walls and floors are able to be copy/monitored. So anything in a structural foundation category could not be used.
If you ask me, this is a serious deficiency in Revit.
Topography HAS to be a different file in real life projects. The topography defines the georeference of the project and the architecture moves around the topography during the project process. Optimal positioning of the building in the terrain (horizontally and vertically) is part of the design process and it's an iterative thing
hi, can you confirm that with version 2023 this is not possible? in all versions prior to 24 the topography is a surface, not a solid
Any possible way you could update the basic and advanced course with some in-depth toposolid tutorials?
I tried my absolute best with your last TH-cam video on toposolids to covert the "Office Building Site" from the beginner course Office Building. I made no progress. After converting it to 2024, converting the toposurface to toposolid, deleting the top layer. Once I link it to my office project it always turns into a large linked object I cannot do anything with.
Do you have a complete tutorial package?
Has your course on your website for topography been updated to reflect 2024?
Thank you Snr Balkan Architect. Always very helpful. I'm busy doing a huge site which requires detailed earthworks planning. How does this method effect the net cut/fill of the original toposolid? If it's not reliable then so be it. But if it is, that would be so bloody helpful! And I would buy you a coffee if you're ever in Rome.
To answer my own question after some experimentation. Cutting a toposolid with another toposolid does not affect the cut/fill values. But you can use the volume of the cutting topsolid instead of the the 'cut' value. However this volume would be affected when you cut out the foundations from it. But if you created a new graded region from that excavation for the backfill phase you can get it all to work. You just have to manage your phases well.
That way you can get accurate grading, excavations and backfill. Wonderful.
I love revit. ❤
What can I do if i cant cut my floor out??
Hello everyone! I miss the Construction Platform command. How can I make a soil fill in a clean and orderly way in a similar way? Playing with masses and toposolids I find cumbersome and slow........ Very good video as always ! Best regards!
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Couldn't you have just made the void geometry as a solid geometry (in a toposolid category) and change the type of toposolid to new earth instead? I've never tested it but adding the void manually to me feels like adding extra unnecessary steps
I believe you can't modify the in-place model later the way you change heights and add points or edges of regular toposolid ... imagine having a more complicated site.
Show how do connect a toposolid to a point cloud.
Yeah i'm sticking with Revit 2023 for now to avoid this stuff haha