Questions for you guys: 1. Do you think there will be directional encores? We only saw directional performances. 2. Do you think echo attack (spin) is gone or not shown? 3. Will your performances only trigger your own echo bubbles or other hh players echo bubbles too?
1. Probably. We didn't see one because hunter did all of them neutral because they didn't need to move. 2. I think it's gone because it was tied to the claw. Unless they change that ofc. Echo Mark should be there with a different attack since we have echo bubbles and attacks. 3. I would like it to trigger all the bubbles like how World's melody duration extended buff extends all the buffs from other horns as well not just yours. I am extremely excited for this game
I don't think the echo attack is coming back sadly since we saw that all songs play impact waves by default, so even if it comes back it's special note will have to be reworked
I think you express yourself really well! If you followed a script for your guides and used your own voice I think they would work just as well and feel more personal. Although the AI voice works great because of its clarity and clinical nature. Obviously is up to you but I'd encourage you to try out recording you rigid script at least once with your voice, I think you'd improve the result over the AI voice. Perhaps with a shorter guide, it's quite a lot of work anyways. Thank you for your excellent content for World, you've helped me inmensely with getting into the game when starting this year. Looking forward to your videos for Wilds!
@@0oDanngaro0 i appreciate the comment i will try to see if it works out in the future. Because truth be told, iv actually already tried it with previous guides and failed so i stuck to the AI for the most part
Thanks for the in depth analysis. HH has been my favourite trailer so far. I never played HH in World/Ice, only in Rise. After watching your awesome guide I started World from the beginning with HH and it feels really fun to play.
24:44 That is a MHGU hunter skill called Sonic Smash. In GU, the skill does a double spin combo into a point blank shockwave finisher. It was mainly used for defensive usage because of the high KO/exhaust motion values. Seems they change the finisher distance to be long range in Wilds. Great breakdown video, handsome. I hope to see some Wilds HH gameplay from you in the future. ❤️
New subscriber here ! I just Saw your guide on Lance in MHWIB , that was so perfect ! It makes me absolutely want to play it ! Then i Saw your long Sword too,that was also masterpiece ! I plan to see hunting Horn, charge blade, Switch axe too I can't wait to see all weapons ! Don't worry about your voice, your content is king (very detailed and precise.that's all we are searching for.again,don't worry,that's really nice. You speak is at a good rythm for me who is not an english native speaker. that makes it more easier and understandable that a native english speaker with strong accent,covering words. It's nearly an advantage for me) Have a nice day !
I think we saw about 70% of what the horn can do with it's moveset, I fully expect for there to be 2-3 moves that weren't in the trailer and if the past is anything to go by, more moves will be added with the future dlc expansion.
1. I wish, directional encores were amazing for placement and variety of attacks. I think they will come back. Directional performance are good too, especially (and I hope that is what we saw here) if you have to input to play each of the 3 melodies. The automatic recital of the 3 songs in world made you passive, so you would be punished for letting the 3 songs play at a time you shouldn't have. But now if you have to input each and do so at a time you shouldn't have, you are punished for being greedy (in a more active sense) and that is amazing. 2. I hope they are gone. Being drawn to spam one move because it is more damaging then the other is detrimental to the HH gameplay. What should influence your attack choice is - what is your position relative to the monster - which song you want to play It's all about that swing man^^ That was a great breakdown video, good job
@@Mad_Goat_ i actually agree that echo attacks can get spammy when thats all is being used. I do wish directional encores are back too. Iv been wondering whether the “encores” we saw in the trailer are actually new attacks that happen when u transition from 1 song to the next, instead of replaying the song like an encore. That means instead of passively standing there as u move from song 1 to 2, u attack now. However, these new attacks do seem too slow to be in between each song, so maybe they are in fact encores but faster.
@@torpedosoup ah yeah maybe, then it would be a 3 level encore with like the first recital being attack up S, then M, then L? That could be interesting too
Seems like the drum horns have a little drumstick that actually hits the drum now rather than just magically playing during a performance. I think the tigrex horn was the only one that had a drumstick before.
@@himesnidya i understand. Except i wont sound like this in the guide. Here, im just speaking naturally. In the guide, i spend days writing a very complete script with chapters and everything, and reading directly from it i actually sound worse than the bot, iv tried it.
It's good to hear your voice. If you want to do guides with an AI voice or your own voice, some of us wont mind, its your shot. Although i prefer the ai voice because i cant keep up with different accents and your speech speed is kinda fast. 😅 Btw since wilds is on the horizon, will you still do worlds weapon guide?
@@lourdf0x thanks for the support! Yea itd a mixed bag some ppl dont care, some ppl want a real voice and some like u even prefer the AI. Either way for now AI works better for long and structured content and voice works better for casual expression. I didnt wanna spoil everyone but yes im currently working on something for world, its just coming out slow because im really busy with life.
Performance/encore animations seem much faster overall. A side-by-side animation comparison would be nice in the future once we can see the full movesets.
@@h33day thats a great idea. Might do that when the demo is out. Yea i mentioened the speed of “encores” are faster but as i said im not even sure if they are encores. Maybe we get a new attack animation for just cycling through 3 melodies, and then we get to encore after, holy shit. Dont even know if directional encores are back
The first recital started with 2 echo-waves followed by an encore. But later in the video another recital only started with 1 echo-wave. Could the number of recital echo-waves correspond to the number of buffs played? This would encourage stacking songs for more upfront burst damage. Also, I believe the 30 damage numbers are echo-bubbles during a recital/encore. The last two hit combo in the encore appears to do 2 regular hits (18 + 32), 1 shock-wave (9), 1 echo-wave (46) and 2 echo-bubbles (30 + 30)
Yeah all those flashing numbers from multiple sources are confusing without the ability to test them hands on...all I want to know though is whether or not they'll be able to do elemental and/or status damage lol. Silkbind Shockwave elemental HH must survive!
@@KPlaysHere yea of all things i think SB shockwave is really good. I once told my friend I wish they would just make SB shockwave's effect either replace or added to the Self improvement. Lvl 1 movement speed, level 2 adds shockwaves to all attacks, something like that. it really adds to the identity of sound wave usage for the HH
@@torpedosoup more aggressive recitals/encores and playing around echo bubbles for extra shockwaves/DPS definitely adds to Horns character, further differentiating it from Hammer. I really liked echo spin but I wouldn't be surprised if it's gone in favour of this more aggressive, recital and shockwave heavy playstyle. Admittedly, echo spin did detract a little bit from playing songs for damage.
@@saibarathiravi2137 yea for wilds i will try to do hopefully all of them. Im actually working on something for world now, just havent had the time to really finish it, work has been busy
To me, it looks like the horn they're using at the start has the "sonic waves" melody effect. At 10:12, the SFX while the hunter is proccing multiple echo bubbles sounds to me exactly the same as the sonic bomb / sonic waves effect from World - not sure if that means anything or if it's just a reused asset (though I wouldn't expect that they would simply remove sonic waves as a mechanic entirely and then reuse the SFX for something else?) My current guess is that playing any melody in range of an echo bubble will cause a shockwave effect, as well as another stack of whatever melody you're playing?
@@Uberrandom if the bubbles also apply whatever melody effect ur playing, it truly is a reworked bead of resonance then. Yea i did mention in one of the comments that alot of their sound effects sound like sonic waves too.
This is how HH should have worked all along shockwave damage on everything when you play a note performance encore and with echo waves bor combo this would of made it very easy to say it’s different from hammer. Plus it would put it more in line with its main damage of putting out element dps.
@@mats6591 yeap i've seen it, not sure if the s are kept but it sure as hell is the same skill lol. that weapon and armor tho, wonder what monster that is
@@torpedosoup by the way i really appreciate using your own voice for casual videos like this and like you said the ai voice makes guides more digestible.
Questions for you guys:
1. Do you think there will be directional encores? We only saw directional performances.
2. Do you think echo attack (spin) is gone or not shown?
3. Will your performances only trigger your own echo bubbles or other hh players echo bubbles too?
2. dlc, like what they did in world
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@@thetoyhammerbro thats like stealing your food and giving it back to you next season
3. I imagine they'll work similarly to wsb, they proc but deal a lot less dmg
1. Probably. We didn't see one because hunter did all of them neutral because they didn't need to move.
2. I think it's gone because it was tied to the claw. Unless they change that ofc. Echo Mark should be there with a different attack since we have echo bubbles and attacks.
3. I would like it to trigger all the bubbles like how World's melody duration extended buff extends all the buffs from other horns as well not just yours.
I am extremely excited for this game
I don't think the echo attack is coming back sadly since we saw that all songs play impact waves by default, so even if it comes back it's special note will have to be reworked
I think you express yourself really well! If you followed a script for your guides and used your own voice I think they would work just as well and feel more personal. Although the AI voice works great because of its clarity and clinical nature.
Obviously is up to you but I'd encourage you to try out recording you rigid script at least once with your voice, I think you'd improve the result over the AI voice. Perhaps with a shorter guide, it's quite a lot of work anyways.
Thank you for your excellent content for World, you've helped me inmensely with getting into the game when starting this year. Looking forward to your videos for Wilds!
Agreed
@@0oDanngaro0 i appreciate the comment i will try to see if it works out in the future. Because truth be told, iv actually already tried it with previous guides and failed so i stuck to the AI for the most part
Thanks for the in depth analysis. HH has been my favourite trailer so far. I never played HH in World/Ice, only in Rise. After watching your awesome guide I started World from the beginning with HH and it feels really fun to play.
24:44 That is a MHGU hunter skill called Sonic Smash. In GU, the skill does a double spin combo into a point blank shockwave finisher. It was mainly used for defensive usage because of the high KO/exhaust motion values. Seems they change the finisher distance to be long range in Wilds. Great breakdown video, handsome. I hope to see some Wilds HH gameplay from you in the future. ❤️
Melodic slap was more like a short up slap with a sonic wave bubble at the end but had shorter range than overhead slam.
4 man echo bubble soon tm.
Man, looking forward to your in depth wilds HH guide!
Looking forward to your new HH guide in Wilds ❤
New subscriber here !
I just Saw your guide on Lance in MHWIB , that was so perfect !
It makes me absolutely want to play it !
Then i Saw your long Sword too,that was also masterpiece ! I plan to see hunting Horn, charge blade, Switch axe too
I can't wait to see all weapons !
Don't worry about your voice, your content is king (very detailed and precise.that's all we are searching for.again,don't worry,that's really nice. You speak is at a good rythm for me who is not an english native speaker.
that makes it more easier and understandable that a native english speaker with strong accent,covering words. It's nearly an advantage for me)
Have a nice day !
@@anthonyg.7858 thank you for your kind words. I appreciate the support ur showing.
I think we saw about 70% of what the horn can do with it's moveset, I fully expect for there to be 2-3 moves that weren't in the trailer and if the past is anything to go by, more moves will be added with the future dlc expansion.
The king is back
The weapon itself looks like the mhw hh but slightly faster, which is neat.
1. I wish, directional encores were amazing for placement and variety of attacks. I think they will come back.
Directional performance are good too, especially (and I hope that is what we saw here) if you have to input to play each of the 3 melodies. The automatic recital of the 3 songs in world made you passive, so you would be punished for letting the 3 songs play at a time you shouldn't have.
But now if you have to input each and do so at a time you shouldn't have, you are punished for being greedy (in a more active sense) and that is amazing.
2. I hope they are gone.
Being drawn to spam one move because it is more damaging then the other is detrimental to the HH gameplay. What should influence your attack choice is
- what is your position relative to the monster
- which song you want to play
It's all about that swing man^^
That was a great breakdown video, good job
@@Mad_Goat_ i actually agree that echo attacks can get spammy when thats all is being used. I do wish directional encores are back too. Iv been wondering whether the “encores” we saw in the trailer are actually new attacks that happen when u transition from 1 song to the next, instead of replaying the song like an encore. That means instead of passively standing there as u move from song 1 to 2, u attack now. However, these new attacks do seem too slow to be in between each song, so maybe they are in fact encores but faster.
@@torpedosoup ah yeah maybe, then it would be a 3 level encore with like the first recital being attack up S, then M, then L? That could be interesting too
Seems like the drum horns have a little drumstick that actually hits the drum now rather than just magically playing during a performance. I think the tigrex horn was the only one that had a drumstick before.
@@ongabonga4378 yea weapon designs have improved. We will be seeing some creative ones for sure
Omg your sounds so mıch better. Your guide videos pretty good but that robotic sound always make me sleepy and drain my whole energy 😂
@@himesnidya i understand. Except i wont sound like this in the guide. Here, im just speaking naturally. In the guide, i spend days writing a very complete script with chapters and everything, and reading directly from it i actually sound worse than the bot, iv tried it.
It's good to hear your voice. If you want to do guides with an AI voice or your own voice, some of us wont mind, its your shot. Although i prefer the ai voice because i cant keep up with different accents and your speech speed is kinda fast. 😅
Btw since wilds is on the horizon, will you still do worlds weapon guide?
@@lourdf0x thanks for the support! Yea itd a mixed bag some ppl dont care, some ppl want a real voice and some like u even prefer the AI. Either way for now AI works better for long and structured content and voice works better for casual expression. I didnt wanna spoil everyone but yes im currently working on something for world, its just coming out slow because im really busy with life.
@@torpedosoup im looking forward
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Performance/encore animations seem much faster overall. A side-by-side animation comparison would be nice in the future once we can see the full movesets.
@@h33day thats a great idea. Might do that when the demo is out. Yea i mentioened the speed of “encores” are faster but as i said im not even sure if they are encores. Maybe we get a new attack animation for just cycling through 3 melodies, and then we get to encore after, holy shit. Dont even know if directional encores are back
From what I’ve seen there about a second and a haft shorter than world plus the flourish is faster.
wow nice you used tts on this video. I always support your videos regardless of whether you use tts or not, so please use your real voice next time
The first recital started with 2 echo-waves followed by an encore.
But later in the video another recital only started with 1 echo-wave.
Could the number of recital echo-waves correspond to the number of buffs played? This would encourage stacking songs for more upfront burst damage.
Also, I believe the 30 damage numbers are echo-bubbles during a recital/encore.
The last two hit combo in the encore appears to do 2 regular hits (18 + 32), 1 shock-wave (9), 1 echo-wave (46) and 2 echo-bubbles (30 + 30)
@@jamesuu7698 yea the dmg numbers part is a little confusing to me. I will be sure to test it when the demo is out
Yeah all those flashing numbers from multiple sources are confusing without the ability to test them hands on...all I want to know though is whether or not they'll be able to do elemental and/or status damage lol. Silkbind Shockwave elemental HH must survive!
@@KPlaysHere yea of all things i think SB shockwave is really good. I once told my friend I wish they would just make SB shockwave's effect either replace or added to the Self improvement. Lvl 1 movement speed, level 2 adds shockwaves to all attacks, something like that. it really adds to the identity of sound wave usage for the HH
@@torpedosoup more aggressive recitals/encores and playing around echo bubbles for extra shockwaves/DPS definitely adds to Horns character, further differentiating it from Hammer. I really liked echo spin but I wouldn't be surprised if it's gone in favour of this more aggressive, recital and shockwave heavy playstyle.
Admittedly, echo spin did detract a little bit from playing songs for damage.
@@jamesuu7698 yes admittedly the spin was great but at times it pulls attention away from performances and ppl just spam spins
hey man!!. glad to see you back. are you gonna do guide for other weapons in future?
@@saibarathiravi2137 yea for wilds i will try to do hopefully all of them. Im actually working on something for world now, just havent had the time to really finish it, work has been busy
@@torpedosoup Oh that nice man!. can't wait for your extremely detailed guide for MH wilds.
To me, it looks like the horn they're using at the start has the "sonic waves" melody effect.
At 10:12, the SFX while the hunter is proccing multiple echo bubbles sounds to me exactly the same as the sonic bomb / sonic waves effect from World - not sure if that means anything or if it's just a reused asset (though I wouldn't expect that they would simply remove sonic waves as a mechanic entirely and then reuse the SFX for something else?)
My current guess is that playing any melody in range of an echo bubble will cause a shockwave effect, as well as another stack of whatever melody you're playing?
@@Uberrandom if the bubbles also apply whatever melody effect ur playing, it truly is a reworked bead of resonance then. Yea i did mention in one of the comments that alot of their sound effects sound like sonic waves too.
This is how HH should have worked all along shockwave damage on everything when you play a note performance encore and with echo waves bor combo this would of made it very easy to say it’s different from hammer. Plus it would put it more in line with its main damage of putting out element dps.
@@mats6591 yea that would put hh in line with being a sound based weapon mixed with blunt force
@@torpedosoup if you have checked out hammer video they kept keeping sway move from rise dunno if all weapons will come something like that.
@@mats6591 yeap i've seen it, not sure if the s are kept but it sure as hell is the same skill lol. that weapon and armor tho, wonder what monster that is
Seems like echo waves dont flash like the other songs
@@siduxjxhdgzhdjxhxuuxxyhgg1079 its possible, maybe why that particular scene had 3 hits. 1 echo wave and 2 more default shockwaves.
@@torpedosoup by the way i really appreciate using your own voice for casual videos like this and like you said the ai voice makes guides more digestible.
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