Back in the day, there wasnt a big group of gamers. They existed, but compared to now, but if I look at statistics, in america alone, there were less gamers then there were black people. In the late 90's, that is when the amount of gamers started rising, and it still is. There is a thing called demand and supply and you can see a lot more people willing to buy games at 60$ than there are people willing to buy it at higher prices. You have an economical point where you have the highest profit compared to expenses. For games, this is at 60$. They spend the least amount of money and sell it for the most amount. Sell it for 50$, and the increase in sales wont be big enough to cover the 10$ gap. Increase it to 70$ and the increase in income per game wont cover the loss of people buying it.
@@Kizmirazz xbox 360 and ps3 games were $50 but went up to $60 in the middle or end of the ps3 and 360 era. ps2 games and wii games were still 50 though while ps3 xbox 360 turned to 60.00 bucks. Edit: probably because ps3 and xbox 360 games ran in HD and graphically look better especially if it was the same game xbox 360 and ps3 version looked way better then the wii and ps2 version.
no mention of pc gaming. pc games normally cost less. the main reason is that 99.9% of pc gamers buy their games digitally. also, $60 is actually considered expensive still. you have to realise that gta 5(a very big game) costs the same amount as a call of duty game(quite a small game content wise)
silversonic99 The reason they don't do that is because it makes retailers like GameStop mad as they have to compete with digital games as well, and thus they might not properly advertise or even carry a game
Ya sure we trust you! In all seriousness, times change tho, I wonder how cheap they will be if there are 100 billion people, probably the same because of corporate greed :p
You MUST be homeless poor if you think $60 dlls for a videogame is expensive. I'ts a great bang for your buck. Countless hours of fun, Good graphics (Most modern games at least), Good production values, different genres to choose from. I spend about $300 dlls on a date night, with only a few hours of fun Included.
If you do find a game cheaper than 60 bucks u probably gotta pay in game to get any cool shit. EA in a nutshell. Also since this is EA a microtransaction of $5 is required to reply to this comment.
Ever heard of free games like League of Legends? These comments are only referring to the huge AAA games for both PCs and consoles, not smaller or less complicated games.
Cristi Adii Aye finally someone who understands. I’d write to you in Romanian but I’m also too poor to afford Romanian language classes. So I’ll write to you in English lmao.
if Integra: YOU ARE in the twilight zone like me...I buy for my kids and in my head I'd say there goes a tank of gas.. or should I look at it as I know where he or she is while in the house being quite for hours and what I'd paid a baby sitter in the past for was about the same for about 4hrs.. I GUESS it's a sweet spot thing and balance it's self out in the wash... and now that these places buy and sale used or preowned .games with protection insurance if you want .I think 60 bucks for a earned gift it workes for me...Or now days you can rent if you don't want to own..to each his or her own..
ya same $10-15 for standard, and $20-30 for limited editions which where actually limited. idk where he got those prices of hundreds of dollars, I remember buying mortal kombat (3 I think) and street fighter alpha 2 for $20 each...
Brand new games were $50.00. When a game just came out brand new in the ps2,ps3, xbox 360, and wii era. Then eventually xbox 360 and ps3 games moved up to $60. While ps2 and wii games stayed at $50.
I only remember $20 as a kid. 360 was basically a newer gen console anyway at the time. those games were like $20 - $40. wii games were like $40. anything before that era used to be like $20. so like ps2 and gamecube era, and ps1 era.
@@dream323 probably when they were out for a while they price probably reduced to $20 -$40 around that price pretty much all games were $50 on release right when they came out.
I feel the price should drop on digital games because there is no distribution, retailer, or returns. $35 or $40 should be fine for digital games, and some are moving that way, such as Overwatch did.
The average price was $49.99 for the longest time in the USA not $59.99. It wasn’t until the Xbox 360 and PS3 era when it was normalized around 59. Love your channel but I do believe this is an error.
Games used to cost 30. Super mario 64 was only 29.99. I mowed lawns for a couple weeks to afford it. First price hike i remember was when i bought the legend of zelda ocarina of time and, a few weeks later, chrono cross both of which cost me almost 40. I wanna say one was 34.99 and the next was 39.99. I remember because i only had 42 even and it wasnt enough after tax so my Mother made up the difference.
Sorry dude, but you are just wrong. The price points for games was as follows in dollars of the day: Atari 2600: $15 when it was hot, $3-5 during the crash NES: $40 MSRP with games often discounted to $20 by retailers SNES/Genesis: $40 to $80, depending on how big the ROM was, FF2, Phantasy Star 4 and FF3 and RPGs in general were quite pricey due to their size at that time CD and DVD based games (Saturn, PS1, Dreamcast, Xbox): $40 More recently games have crept up to $60 due to the collusion and price fixing you indicate, but that is actually illegal and may get the publishers in trouble if they are actually doing that (Nintendo and EA have already been penalized by the US government for price fixing from what I remember) Greedy publishers are trying to suck as much cash out of their customers as possible, but the reality is that the video game market is huge ($108,000M in 2017 vs $100M in 1985), and with disc based games, the cost to produce a copy is only a dollar or two, a few cents for digital downloads, versus up to half the register price or more back in the cartridge days. For example, the Gears of War franchise has sold 27M copies and made over $1,000M in sales. Total development for the franchise was about $90M. Thus, on that one IP, MS made $410M as the publisher and another $100M on platform licensing in pure profit (ignoring the sales through XBL, which also nets MS the retailer cut). The reality is that once a game makes back it's development and advertising costs, it is 90% plus pure profit, and boy do the publishers profit. And we are not even talking about microtransactions yet. Fortnite cost under $1M with a barebones team working on it off and on for a number of years, but it has made developer Epic over $1000M in less than 10 months. Sure, they have probably sunk another $10M into the game in that timespan, but we are still in the 10,000% profit margin range. No other business on the planet short of armed robbery nets that kind of profit margin. Most of the profits from these games goes down the publisher rat hole, either paid out to investors or sucked up by the army of corporate types working at the publisher who serve no purpose other than to crush creativity and homogenize games. One of the great things about Steam is that they have largely circumvented at least the big publishers and allow much more of the cash from sales to come back to the developers. If game developers and the people who worked for them were smart, they would go the way of the MPAA and the guilds around making movies, collectively forcing publishers to force better working conditions and more fairly distribute the revenue from game sales to those actually creating the content. Everyone who significantly contributed to create the Gears series, Fortnite and all the other blockbusters should all be millionaires, still leaving room for the publishers to make several hundred percent return on their investment.
Generic Dank Meme my school fee in pakistan is 10 dollar and you are talking about 60 Holy Cow I am over reacted I have iphone 7 plus and my brother has a iphone x and father is a doctor 😅😅😅
$60 is still too expensive imo, at least for single player games with campaigns that only last a few hours. I can't really justify paying $60 bucks for that, especially when it's a digital copy with zero distribution and production cost. At $20-$30 there would be a ton of games I'd consider buying. And for the record, it's not that I don't have the money, I live in a developed country with average hourly wage of $20-$40, it's really all about the value. I'd rather go to the cinema five times or go out for food and a couple of beers two nights, than to pay $60 for Far Cry Primal or $40 for RE7.
BudgeThePutcher Games can also have 300 hours of gameplay, which is equal to $.50 per hour of entertainment. And if a game is $60 and not worth it, people won't buy it and they will drop the price. The point is, most games will sell at least a few copies at $60, just like a few cars will sell as maximum price, regardless of quality. Also, if Primal is equal in length to other Farcry games, you will certainly get more hours of entertainment than 5 movies. And if you don't, then it just isn't the game for you. But someone else will get 50 hours out of it, easily, making paying $60 well worth it in my opinion
*60/300=$0.2/hr. However, most single player games range between 8-24hrs of content(source: polls on howlongtobeat.com). Maybe I'm not the typical gamer, but I would chew through that in a weekend or two and a week after that I would have forgotten I had the game altogether. The main point though, is that I think other experiences are typically higher quality of entertainment than what can be achieved in front of a computer or TV. Thus, a simple $/hr calculation isn't fair imo. I also can't help but to compare it to multiplayer games like Fifa, Dota, CS:GO and PUBG which offers nearly infinite game longevity for the same money or less.
BudgeThePutcher Yeah, I don't know why I divided 300/60. But even if other sources are higher quality than video games, which is highly debatable and varies based on the game and the alternative activity, the alternative activity is typically way more expensive. I don't buy shitty games that offer 10 hours of content. Some people might, and that is why the games start out at $60; supply and demand. If you are a gamer who values gaming (the type of person willing to pay $60 for a game you really want), you will typically know what games you can best get your value from. And there are more and more "gamers" every year, and most are willing to pay $60. I don't think going out to the cinema is worth it unless I go in the morning when it is $5.18 a ticket near me :P I am quite frugal, though. I don't think the cost/time argument is unfair. I expect the game that you purchase and buy is something you will enjoy very much. Hell, Fortnite is free and people have way more fun for free than going out and seeing "Solo: A Star Wars Story". A smile is a smile to me. Obviously going out and dancing with ny girlfriend is higher quality entertainment than playing a video game, but those are two completely different things for different times
Yes, I can fully understand the high costs. But sales aren't driven by costs, they're driven by demand. Thus, a product can be too expensive regardless of the cost.
Same thing happens with Destiny (1), which was said to have the most expensive development in history, but in actuality about 80% of the budget was used for marketing, not for the actual development of the game. I personally think that a good game doesn’t even need to be advertised besides one or two trailers.
I've always felt like paying $60 for a game is honestly not that terrible as long as you can get in a decent amount of play time with that game. I also feel like, paying a little more for different editions of the game is sometimes worth it too. I don't see why people complain about the price of games. If I can get at least an hour per $ spent on a videogame, I think it's a pretty worthy investment. You're basically buying entertainment for $1 an hour. That's how I look at it.
Christocream Doubt it as they have been $60 for a long time and $60 is worth less than it used too. If anything they would raise the price but gamers would not allow it.
Chris Gomera THANK YOU. I thought I was going insane. The jump seemed to happen around 2012-2014 with the new gen consoles (Xbox One and PS4) if I'm correct.
Yeah I remember this. The jump definitely happened for next gen consoles. It sad because I feel like nowadays we are paying devs dimply for graphic quality and not actual good game play
Games actually cost 79.99 in Canada 👌🙏 Lol people acting like I don’t know what a currency exchange rate is. Technically Canadians are paying more for their game cuz if you convert 79.99 to American dollars it comes out too 61.66 + Canadians pay more taxes than Americans cuz u know we have free healthcare and stuff 👌
maybe for an american 60$ isnt that much , but for a Romanian thats like 238 lei which is a lot if you think that minimum salary is 1000 lei, why prices of a game aren't lower if you're country's currency is down?
Thats no ones problem that romania and other countries with a failed and corrupt system dont let their people buy fun stuff because their economy is as strong as the one of medieval countries
The Drunken Basterd we pay usual stuff x3 less than rest of the world but we pay games the amount of the rest of the world so its like you paying x3 more on games than usual which si 180$ instead of 60$ , imagine that
Because the audience/potential buyers has risen massively. Gaming has become mainstream now, so they can afford to ask a lower price since they now they'll make up for it in the number of sales, also: microtransactions
That gamer market's gonna saturate eventually since gaming is now mainstream. The fixed price also goes a long way to explain why so many big publishers release their games more barebones today. Because 60 in real dollars is worth less today than in 2000's dollars. You are buying "less" of a game with that 60 today because of inflation.
Blastermaster Nes , yup them ROM megabit chips we're expensive! Now you got thumb drives with 128 Gigabytes that can have every console and arcade game.
Pixelchu the thing is though by the time those games are clearance they have already died which sucks if you want to play online with your friends and they don't play it anymore
Well, nowadays you don't get a game for 60 bucks. You often get a cripple of a game where you have to buy another 200 bucks of microtransactions to get to the fun stuff. Tripple A games are full of shit, which is why I rather support indie games that maybe aren't that flashy but don't compromise on the fun part.
Buy 200$ worth of microtransactions to enjoy a game? What the hell kind of games are you playing lol there are plenty of great Triple A titles just know what you’re getting before you buy it. And there a number of indie games that follow the practice of overpriced Microtransactions i.e Pubg
Something that you neglected to mention was how manufacturing costs have decreased as we moved to a disk based media and moved away from paper manuals and carts. Those costs are being reduced even further with the transition to digital only releases.
*1950's - "I bet there will be flying cars in the future"* *2018 - "BUT MOM IF I GET THIS NEW FORTNITE SKIN I WILL BE FINALLY ACCEPTED AS A HUMAN BEING"*
I believe that he is adjusting for inflation, so the price of games in the 90's would be adjusted for inflation, basically meaning that back then it was the equivalent to paying $100 for a game
I used to work in blockbuster and I remember may tapes being 300 dollars....before DVD's were out...I used to take home SNES games for free at that time. Cost of inflation is local, so the cost was not that high...i think the atari 2600 was 300 dollars in 80's money from what my dad told me....i still have it and still hate my atari....sucks so bad.
I remember as a kid in Canada in the 90s it was $60 for a game, now it's $80. $60 adjusted for inflation is around $95. NES games were $50, which would be $120 today. The Atari 2600 cost about $800 for the console when adjusted, games were between $60-$120. Imagine paying close to $1000 to play Pong on a 15 inch black and white TV, that's how bored people were back then.
Games don't cost 60$. For 60$ u get the main title, You have to buy the levels extra as DLC for 20$ each. After that You have to buy Characters for your house, your wife and your obedience. And even after that You get baited by micro-transactions
WWE is BETTER than NJPW! New Japan SUCKS! They force You not directly, but they do. Without DLC You can play the game, You bought for a full price for like a few hours, then u need 2 buy a DLC, or it's no fun
@WWE is BETTER than NJPW! New Japan SUCKS!: Well I agree with Shurima, I have played some games even on the computer that will release a new weapon or something that everyone has except you, and you keep getting raped until you get the weapon. And they release armor that virtually makes your opponent immortal unless you have said weapon lol
Infographics show seems to be going down hill. Lots of irrelevant info. And boring filler words. This video could have easily been 3 minutes and given the same amount of relevant information.
Name1 Name2 I do and occasionally have to skip forward too. It’s unfortunate. Their videos used to be fantastic. Now they’re just a boot-leg Kurzgesat.
I don't really see a change in the vids tbh they've always been the same type of basic knowledge and shitty statistical videos to make you feel better about yourself ex: if your a virgin your likely to be smarter
Name1 Name2 They’ve always been basic, just not this bad. If you watch the “what if the whole world went vegetarian” video, it’s a lot more stats and a lot less of the clickbait and fillers.
Games haven't always been "$60". I don't know when this myth got started, but it's false. I distinctly remember new games for console being about $50 in the PS2/GC era, with GBA titles usually being about $40. While games were roughly that price or higher in the past, the switch to disk-based media caused a massive decrease in the price. Something that people also overlook is that the vast majority of a AAA game's budget is in marketing and graphics. It's not that game companies need to stuff every game with microtransactions, DLC, and season passes, it's that it increases margins on something the game company has already ensured is in the hands of millions and millions of people. Only the biggest budget games actually need those things to turn a profit, and even then, most of that budget is pissed away on Mountain Dewritos plugs, buying reviews from game journos, and running nonstop ads in dying media.
I guess you don't know what a strawman is. I was pointing out that I don't now who started this myth that games have been $60 since the 90s, but it's a damn dirty lie. I was also pointing out how game companies could still easily turn a profit by cutting unnecessary costs without having to spend ever increasing amounts of money on marketing to get ever diminishing returns.
I used to get PS 2 games in India at a dollar. Around 60-70 rupees equates a dollar. U can get a games for 30 rupees usually. Max is 70. India is best lol
I disagree. Haven't you noticed that the games pulling these Mountain Dewritos plugs, the Season Passes, the Fee-to-Pay stuff... haven't you noticed that it always seems to be the really huge media sensations doing it? Things like Shadow of War, Call of Duty, Star Wars Battlefront 2... games which are GUARANTEED to double, triple, quadruple or even more their investment - even if absolutely every single person who bought it paid only the $60 at a retailer and never paid a single cent on DLC or microtransactions, and even when you factor in the obscene amounts spent on marketing? They don't NEED these things to turn a profit. They never have. They WANT these things. It's greed, not need.
I thought I was in some of "Mandela effect" I remember game being $39-$49 and $49.99 was the norm for a while till like the late 90's then $59.99 became the new norm. This video must be talking about other countries
Agreed, I distinctly remember sonic and knuckles brand new at $49.99, and being in disbelief. (The average game at the time was about $39.99) Infographics is Far off p oint with this one, brings puts all of their videos in a knew light. Also, if he's trying to adjust for inflation, that should have been stated or noted with those misinformed price tags. That error alone makes this was a poorly researched video.
It’s better to sell a million copies at $60 then it is to sell 250,000 at $80 or $100. It’s hard to justify more then $60 for a game just like it’s hard to justify more then $20-30 or a movie.
weirdyoda04 dead ass theres so many movies that i think that looks pretty good if movies were cheaper id totally go see it but im gonna skip it. Im probably not gonna watch deadpool cause i cant justify the cost
Vadoom 335 that's why I have moviepass. 10 bucks a month and i can see several movies. Its not as good anymore since you can only see each movie that comes out once now, but you can still see every new movie that comes out for a low price. Before they made that change, I was going to the movies 10 times a month for 10 bucks, effectively 1 dollar a ticket
Alvin S Dreamcast was a dying piece of shit by the early 2000s, & was pretty much dead by 2001. Of course their games would not be super expensive, especially those lame sports 2k games. Also, DC was still fucking expensive at launch; that shit wasn't cheap, especially adjusted for inflation.
WWE is BETTER than NJPW! New Japan SUCKS! 2K games were amaizng and still kicking today i dont know what u are smoking but i guess youre right about the rest
You also need to consider the volume of sales has increased dramatically from the 90s as gaming has transitioned from a select few fans with there own personal consoles to being widely available across the world to all levels of society. This will compensate the increase in production expenses, but will inevitably come to an end if the volume of sales slow in its acceleration which is a possibility due to the finite number of people gaming. Contrary to that idea however many more children are getting into gaming at very young ages so this may continue for as long as the population is increasing.
as a dev comments like that do hurt. of course we all understand prices can be high. but i do hope you understand some devs have to come round of the same wage as you. they can be your neighbor. developers dont just come out of america but from all over the world. many from china and east europe as well as south america. these are countries where there is not much money. and the money doesnt come back tk the devs unless you are at the top of the line. just so you know, creating a small indie game here in west europe costs around 300000 euros with a development time of two years in a 3man team getting subsidised and funded by the goverment living in student appartements of 600 euros a month paying of a study debt of 12000 euros simply to get the knowledge on how to do this stuff. and just so you know, the diploma is no guarantee you actually get a job or make a 'hit'. this is life of developing and we take it because we love games as much as you do. and in all honesty we would do it for free if we could. and some do.
thunder horse its more often than not that the devs are not actually making that the decicion. it is the marketing departement togheter with administration and the shareholders who have lot of say since its also their money. in my case i feel most dlc should be free. content that should havw been in the game from the getgo but didnt make it in due to time constraints should always be offered free. additional content like actual dlc deserves to be paid for. there goes a ton of work in there.
Whenever I bought games for Playstation and N64 back in the 90s in America, the prices were around $29-49 for newly released games. I recall buying Mortal Kombat 4 for PS1 on its first week of release, it was well under $50. Dreamcast and PS2 consoles started off, their games were still around the $29-49 price range. It wasn't until the Xbox 360 and PS3 era that a $60 price tag became the norm.
Digital downloads should have brought the price down since no physical media is being used. Loot boxes and paid DLC content ect.. should bring down initial game prices also.
ditto the digital content is to give publishers more money because the $60 price tag isn't enough to turn a reasonable profit. The price of new games hasn't changed since the 00s but the value of pretty much any currency has fallen. Not to mention that development costs have also skyrocketed, especially for today's gaming environment where longer more immersive games are pretty much a must. By today's standards games should be like $80+ (with no additional spending). But no one wants to do that, it'd pretty much be suicide. So it's us, the consumer, who has accidentally voted with the all mighty wallet for digital content.
sir, what he mean was buying games digitally. also, games should not cost $80. $60 is already too much money spent of AAA games, which a lot of them aren't that good anymore. by the way, nintendo sold cardboard for $80. yes, the cardboard did sort off gave something but seriously. cardboard is worth more than a game with a lot of content that can last for years
ditto all the things you mentioned are the only reason game prices aren't _increasing_ because of inflation so I don't think costs are going to go down any time soon
Actually, any assertion about price not increasing with inflation assumes both real wage growth and that the technology used to create the games hasn't seen improvement and so gotten cheaper (i.e. why don't home computers still cost $10k... shouldn't they cost MORE with inflation!?). Not assumptions I'd be confident in staking my position on. THEN reduce the distribution and returns component. In stark contrast to all of this, the Sega Genesis released for $189US in 1989. That would be $382 today ($360 in 2014). The Xbox One released for $500 in 2014...
The creator of this video fails to mention one essential thing, the difference in games economy and the economy of other products. If you are selling a physical product, such as a burger for example there is a small absolute cost in developing the recipe, getting the tools needed which are also more of an absolute cost with a small quantitative cost due to wear and the cost for the materials which is usually a significant one. Games are software products which can be very easily be replicated with minimal costs so selling 1 copy or 100 million copies would have a neglect-able distribution cost. Instead the bulk of the cost is in making the game, which is an absolute price. So you pay 20 or 200 million upfront and then you need to make that money back by selling as many copies as possible at a highest price as possible. So you need to find the optimal relation between quantity and price in order to maximize profits. Due to the fact that the number of gamers has increased exponentially since the 90's that means you can sell to way more people at a lower price than before and still make a nice profit. There is also a lot of pressure on the price due to a significant increase in competitors since the 90's on the same market, especially from the free-to-play and freemium market.
I came to be the first comment, as I always wanted to be.. but I was too late.. Now I only want to know... How can people comment so fast? What is their intenet conection? What do they eat? When do they sleep? Where are they?
It's practically impossible to get the first comment by your own balls on popular channels like these, it all depends on you internet connection, if TH-cam feels merciful enough to send the notification at the right time, and outright luck.
Quinn Sinclair Hi Quinn it's nice to meet you, and my name is John. I really think it's because the "age of technology" has evolved and because a game is on a new system we have to have the understanding that it is on a new system and shell out the money for it. What's even stupider is when they release a game under a special edition tag and charge 80 or 90 for it, you buy the game and there's little content on there for it warranting the special edition tag.
John B aka Smooth Chocolate A standard game costs 79.99 which is just under 90 with tax. The only way it’s cheaper than that is if it is a third party game or isn’t selling very well as for example the LA Noir switch port which was 59.99 to the Switch’s usual 79.99. Most of the time special editions cost more like 109.99. Besides that though the video seems to be maintaining that video game prices haven’t gone up in the last ten years compared to other merchandise when they most definitely have.
John B aka Smooth Chocolate what I really hate is that when a season pass is 40 bucks and the game is 60 but the season pass comes with a "gold edition" which is like 200 dollars
Price of games HAS changed. It's gone up. The reason why: You pay $60 for the base game experience, the unfinished product. Then you have to pay for season pass or DLC to get the full game experience (not even expansion packs, just for content which should've been in the game to start). And if you want a further unstripped experience, you need the Deluxe Edition. All in all, games today cost $120-$230 *each.* The $60 you pay in the store is just your ticket that lets you buy the rest of the game. Also on the subject of rising development costs, this is provable *bollocks.* These development costs are something the publishers and developers choose to undertake because they need the fish to swim away from a player in a FPS game about futuristic war, and because they want 4K resolution compatibility and physics-enabled grass... My point being they are incurring these costs upon themselves for completely superfluous reasons. That the publishers and developers are unable to properly budget their games is not something which we should be paying for anyway. If they can't do that, then they have no place in the gaming industry and should get out. $60,000,000 should be more than enough to make a quality game that is profitable, groundbreaking & still modest in its expectations. It's also completely possible to make a high-quality game with high-quality animations and graphical fidelity for less than $5,000,000. I don't know the exact budget for Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice, but it was not high in the millions, I'm pretty sure. As a cost-saving measure, they even went low-key, buying cheap props from IKEA and filming cutscenes in their boardroom the 'cheap' way. You don't need a $3,000,000 film studio to do that stuff. These are things *publishers and developers choose.* And it's ridiculous! We want good games. We don't want all that expensive, superfluous shit. GTA5 cost hundreds of millions to make and it's cool and all that, and it made its money back before GTAO was even up, and that was despite most of the development costs going into the technical details, leaving a mostly empty world for you to explore once you were out of the cities. I got more content out of Warframe's "Plains of Eidolon" open world zone than I ever got out of GTA5, and that was nowhere near that expensive to develop.
Nope. Think about it, could you say GTA5 or Skyrim has less or more content than past games? Even without DLC, the games these days are much much more content heavy and are cheaper. Only reason the game companies can support the price is because there are simply more consumers (more people play games than in the past). Since there are more consumers, the video game companies can lower their price until they obtain their profit margin. They charge premium for more contents.
what about fortnite (BR) ? You don't need to pay 60 dollars/euros you need 10 € and you already have enough for that battle pass and the main gameis going to l be free this year.
Look, had to pay 300$ for a ps4, 60$ for a game, another 40$ for the season pass, 60$ for ps plus, and 60$ for another controller because my brother wants to play with me
couldve saved and got pc 60 dollar games are usually 30 in steam sales season pass drop in price too and no need for ps plus and maybe a controller if u wanna split screen
Here in Australia, games usually cost 100 or more dollars here. However, as a kid, there was never a set price until a few years back in the early 10s. Before you could get an Ratchet and Clank game for 30-40 dollars and then maybe your "party game" like Mario party or TV show game for like 20 dollars or cheaper. Best part were the sells when sometimes games would be as low as 15 dollars.
WWE is BETTER than NJPW! New Japan SUCKS! I actually still have my Xbox 360 and still use it a lot. But that’s probably because game devs these days are really greedy and try to use cash grabs in their shitty games.
No that's just the difference in currency. Most games are 80 CAD here, but when converting to the USD it's roughly $60. So we Canadians experience the same price as well.
they both have guns both are based on unreal engine both have vehicle the direction hud is literally the same plus i said semi-ripoff, not 100% ripoff lol
AAA Games will stay at $60 price tag, but they will add in microtransactions, so you can buy some cosmetic shit for money. It is heading that way (see BFV) and I don't mind actually, because It is much better if there are some cosmetic items people can buy rather than to sepparate community by paid DLCs and Premium stuff. Of course it would be great if games which are asking for $60 didn't have any microtranscations at all, but that is not going to happen, because it is generating tons of money.
Toon M As long as the microtransactions are cosmetic only and worth it, I'm fine with them. Shark cards in GTA Online are a bit of a problem. 100 dollars of your real life money for 8 million of in game money? That should be the dictionary definition of a ripoff.
HooD1n I think you mean 7.4 million people at $27 each to get to $200million. Games aren't $60, they are $200+. It's just hidden in DLC. And I honestly think some of these game are worth this price. If you play 1000 hours for a game, that's only 20c and hour. it's totally worth it.
In today's world $60 doesn't get you a full game because all the dlc and shady business practices. In reality, games now cost well over $150.00, but a game sitting on store shelves with a price tag of $150.00 would never sell.
I'm a PS4 Fortnite/COD player (I wish i had god of war) and cod is expensive and passes are expensive too, but then again console players have their own advantages. Basically, i'm saying that neither is better, but we all know XBOX is worst, trying not to be biased but thats why i bought the ps4 and ps3 over the 360 and xbox one, lol.
Um the Nintendo 64 was the "last" home game console to use cartridges? It is 2018 and the Nintendo switch reverted back to use game cartridges for their latest home console since 2017.
Ev'ixyn video mentioned ROM cartridges specially. Maybe that's what they meant? I could be wrong; honestly don't know too much about how console hardware works 🤷♂️
jonathan murillo That's not true, those shitty cartridges can have dead batteries over time & stop saving game files. Yes, CDs do get scratched, but you also had to blow the stupid cartridges for them to even work properly. Sometimes they don't even work anymore when you insert the stupid games in the system.
Cans of Arizona iced tea have not innovated in 25 years, games get bigger, with better graphics, and have that stuff. games now are way more expensive to produce.
ozmoz01 I would argue that Arizona has innovated but in different ways, such as using cheaper (not necessarily worse) ingredients and flavorings. (soft) drinks themselves are also pretty cheap to produce and sell at a great profit margin, like with fountain sodas, and for stuff like water the price is for convenience and the container. I think they're better off taking the slight loss of inflation to keep their reputation of being a 1 dollar drink. It's easy to make good tea or fruit drink in large amounts for cheap but it's a pain in the ass to do it every time you want something sweet tea or fruit flavored.
Is that a regional way to say that? Cuz the main guy from Gameranx says it that way too, and it makes me think that they’re from a certain part of the US
Yeah and guess what the Italian (correct) way that Mario himself pronounces? MA-RIO. Listen and play the game lol, gtfo with your Americanised bullshit
When it came to Nintendo games they were more cheaper as in $20 cheaper then Xbox and Playstation games. They used to cost $50 while Nintendo games used to cost 35 to $40. Believe me I do price checking for a living. Ever since Wii U and the switch came into the picture,it went up to $60. But here's the kicker,most games Xbox and Playstation games $60 but it doesn't end there! downloadable content and online membership fees to play said game. It is costly. I remember when GameCube was around,a fresh game used to cost $25 to 40$. When Wii came out,it was 40$ and rare cases 50$.
Yeah it was weird when he said that games started getting sold at 60 dollars per game in the 90s. I distinctly remember that AAA games cost 50 bucks when they were first released in the early 2000s
Well now it can stay $60 for a while now going forward thanks to the popularity of going digital. Publishers are making more profit thanks to digital since it eliminates the cost of returns, stocking at retailers and making plus shipping out physical games. Now Publishers save $26. So the make 27+26=$53 in profit per game sold to consumer.
I would argue that is not a great enough of a factor to help. The main cost saving method is developers being efficient at creating cost effective tools for game design. However they also get very derivative games and sequels as a result. Im at least talking from the perspective of a game dev that is more corporate, which your initial point of going digital makes a lot more sense with...
$60 is too high nowadays anyway, only some AAA's do it like sport games and COD's. But other games don't really stick round $60 as that's too high for gamers now
I remember new games being $30 and my moms husband telling me “video games aren’t cheap” . Now I’m a adult and I’m paying $65 for new releases. It’s insane. And to answer your question at the end of the video, I feel like if they raise the price any more than it already is people wouldn’t buy new releases. $60 is just in the middle between affordable and too expensive for most people.
In Canada, most "full price" retail games sell for $80. I feel like these companies realize more casual gamers would be turned off by a higher upfront cost, which I think is part of the reason the price hasn't changed much
it probably wasn't as easy to gauge, it's possible income, back then, unlike today. games have become one of the highest grossing businesses in the entertainment industry.
The thing is the RAM that cartridges used in the late 80’s-early to mid 90’s was very expensive, which is what inflated the cost of games to $60-75 US (along with specialized chips that some games came with on the NES and SNES). Once we went into the CD and DVD era of gaming, the costs dropped to $40-50 since they were cheaper to manufacture. With the additional space the medium provided along with tech advances, the games got more elaborate and more expensive to make which is why the price went back up to $60 with the PS3 and XBox 360 era.
The gaming industry is making more profit that ever before. $110 billion last year. But besides that, there is no reason to raise price because frankly, producers have to keep it at a price the consumer will pay. That's how it works.
Lucifer's son what about how the price of packaging, and manufacturing of the package, graphics and art, etc was factored into the $60. Take away those things (digital versions) and you would think the digital versions would be cheaper but people will still pay those cost and increase the game companies profits
TohinArashi Buying digitally is boning yourself too because you don't even own the copy of the game, you are just licensed to play it. I trust steam enough, but I've read a lot of threads of ridiculous bans on PSN where people lose entire libraries of games. The smartest purchases are physical, though steam is the ultimate platform for getting your money's worth for sure
Rockets. Didn't see anybody else mentioning this. Yes they were. It's was just $49.99/$50 for your typical new release. Not always $60 like he says. There was huge backlash when it increased to $60.
I remember buying new games for $40.00 to 49.99 on PC while console on consoles sold them for about 10 dollars more. Now days PC are selling at the same mount for 60 USD. Kinda miss those days, on the bright side PC gaming outlets does provide a 10%-20% pre-order discount usually on GOG, Humble bundle, IndieGala and Greenman Gaming. Which is a few dollars saving but still prefer the raw price cut instead of being matched to consoles.
It’s not gonna stay this way for long especially because of the cracking down on loot boxes and what cod just did making multiplayer dlc free following Fortnite with weapons and add one to the map we will see the price go up in games in a few years because they are going to start losing money on games if they don’t
The price has changed in many ways though. Sales have become far more prevalent with online retailers such as Steam, and several services offer free games for about the cost of one game per year. Indie developers and smaller studios also sell games far below that AAA mark, so I think it's fair to say that the price has indeed changed. Not for AAA titles, perhaps, but in general, it's a lot less expensive to be a gamer now than 10 years ago, when it was a lot harder to find games on sale. Like, on steam sales (and other kinds of sales) you can get AAA games for $10 sometimes. I agree that compared to the cost of manufacturing the price is low, but that's also the case with movies, books, and other things we consume. This kind of model is made so that companies can break even or make a profit if their games sell enough copies, granted this isn't easy, but it would be a lot harder to pull off if games cost $3-400, which is probably why the $60 pricetag hasn't changed.
To all the people complaining that this video didn't answer anything... 1. The publisher wants to sell more copies so they basically force outlet stores to sell hard-copies at $60, otherwise they'll stop doing business with them 2. No one wants to be the first to raise the standard price of their games to $65 or $70, because then they'll be outsold by all the cheaper $60 games. Basically they have to match the price of their competitors, which is every other AAA title. 3. The developers get paid regardless of how expensive the game was to make, so they don't care how much the game costs, as it doesn't affect their pay directly whatsoever. Now shut up.
Big Shaq you’re not getting what hes trying to say. In Canada we payed $60 for games a few years ago. Now we are paying $80. Games were not originally $40 in the U.S, then turning to 60. It was always been $60 with no price change as the video states.
PC games in general. Overwatch was $60 on Xbox and Playstation and $40 on PC. Probably because we don't have to pay $20 to Microsoft or Sony for having a console
Which video game are/were you most eagerly waiting for?
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Hytale
I NEED Star Citizen!
…. this is the gamecube not the snes
Half life 3
I'm pretty sure That in 2030 The elder scrolls Skyrim calculator edition will cost 60$
ThiccToad20 McToadstool Same goes to the 2097 chip bag version.
ThiccToad20 McToadstool games are cheaper than hey should be sold for to be honest.
Blaze nah go to other countries and see that 60 $ is something
ThiccToad20 McToadstool same with gta it's been 5 years it's still 60 bucks
Don't you mean Skyrim? We know Besthsa loves to re-release the same game 100 times in row.
This video didn’t explain anything. “Games are $60 because that’s what the publisher wants, for some reason” end of video
Profit is the reason
Redbox...rent the game and try it
You know most games aren't profitable, right?
The video was too busy describing the buttons on the snes controller and explaining what pong is to talk about that.
Back in the day, there wasnt a big group of gamers. They existed, but compared to now, but if I look at statistics, in america alone, there were less gamers then there were black people. In the late 90's, that is when the amount of gamers started rising, and it still is. There is a thing called demand and supply and you can see a lot more people willing to buy games at 60$ than there are people willing to buy it at higher prices. You have an economical point where you have the highest profit compared to expenses. For games, this is at 60$. They spend the least amount of money and sell it for the most amount. Sell it for 50$, and the increase in sales wont be big enough to cover the 10$ gap. Increase it to 70$ and the increase in income per game wont cover the loss of people buying it.
I remember when games used to be $50 at release.
When?
El De la Chevy Xbox 360, ps2 and ps3 era
@@Kizmirazz xbox 360 and ps3 games were $50 but went up to $60 in the middle or end of the ps3 and 360 era. ps2 games and wii games were still 50 though while ps3 xbox 360 turned to 60.00 bucks.
Edit: probably because ps3 and xbox 360 games ran in HD and graphically look better especially if it was the same game xbox 360 and ps3 version looked way better then the wii and ps2 version.
El De la Chevy I remember getting THUG2 for $50 at GameStop
Gamestop is still going to give you 5 bucks for it
Feels bad living in Canada where games are 80$
isn't CAD worth less than USD?
$90 after tax smh gaming expensive af out here
GDLux it is but not by much, so now Canadians pay $6 plus tax more than Americans
Damn. Waste of money tbh.
$100 here in Australia for a brand new game but $1 here will only get around 70-75 US cents
DLC, Loot Boxes, Season Passes and other Microtransactions
Game Head wy
Microtransaction on you side.
no mention of pc gaming. pc games normally cost less. the main reason is that 99.9% of pc gamers buy their games digitally. also, $60 is actually considered expensive still. you have to realise that gta 5(a very big game) costs the same amount as a call of duty game(quite a small game content wise)
Game Head DLC??
DaDARKPass And ps4 GTA 5 still costs $60 even though it's 4 years old.
So right off the bat, digital games should at most be $45 since the $15 that goes to the nonexistent retailer is now gone
silversonic99
How exactly would steam make money?
But the online store/site/app you buy it from is the retailer..
Walaba platform royalty.
Steam takes...a 30% cut? If anything that makes them *worse* than regular retailers.
silversonic99 The reason they don't do that is because it makes retailers like GameStop mad as they have to compete with digital games as well, and thus they might not properly advertise or even carry a game
Actually, they dropped to $50 for brand new games during the PS2 era. They went up to $60 after the PS3 & X360 released.
I'm Here to Say another person that remembered this accurately. Good on you. I was surprised the TH-camr did not mention this at all.
rightt!
i remember that call of duty 4 was $50 when it came out. but then all big games started selling for 60$ around the time mw2 released.
Ya sure we trust you!
In all seriousness, times change tho, I wonder how cheap they will be if there are 100 billion people, probably the same because of corporate greed :p
I️ was gonna say WTF was the whole “49.99” era about than... Mandala fuckin shit up 🤣
$60 games are not cheap
Not too expensive for most 3-D games either.
yea it is
Well as long as the game not EA
You MUST be homeless poor if you think $60 dlls for a videogame is expensive. I'ts a great bang for your buck. Countless hours of fun, Good graphics (Most modern games at least), Good production values, different genres to choose from. I spend about $300 dlls on a date night, with only a few hours of fun Included.
0.001€ games are not cheap
In canada it went from 59.99 when i was a kid and 10 years later its 79.99
Toxic Nebula less than 10 years man. I remember buying NHL 13 off pre-order in 2012 for 39.99$, got NHL 18 last year for 90$. It's ridiculous
Toxic Nebula yep I remember getting WaW for 60 dollars now it’s 70-120 dollars like why.
Toxic Nebula yes now it is 90
$79.99cad is about $61usd, so about the same price technically.
Toxic Nebula I know!! In 2010 it was $50 and now it's coming up on 85 dollars
If you do find a game cheaper than 60 bucks u probably gotta pay in game to get any cool shit. EA in a nutshell.
Also since this is EA a microtransaction of $5 is required to reply to this comment.
Teodoro Santos Tell me about it... Also here...take my money
Abdurrehman Wajid you must pay a money giving fee of $10 to pay your $5. Also there is a 10 cent fee per letter in ur comment.
Teodoro Santos Here man...Take my money!
*pays respects*
Ever heard of free games like League of Legends? These comments are only referring to the huge AAA games for both PCs and consoles, not smaller or less complicated games.
Wait so $60 is considered cheap to some people? I must be living in the past because $60 to me is expensive. Or I’m just poor.
Connor Shekelstein Ummm that’s what I’m saying. I’m broke too man don’t worry. I buy a new video game once every 5 years. That’s how broke I am.
We're living in Romania man of course we live in the past :))
Cristi Adii Aye finally someone who understands. I’d write to you in Romanian but I’m also too poor to afford Romanian language classes. So I’ll write to you in English lmao.
if Integra lol :)) let them see that we are not ashamed of our standards. It is what it is. Cheers fellow romanian!
if Integra: YOU ARE in the twilight zone like me...I buy for my kids and in my head I'd say there goes a tank of gas.. or should I look at it as I know where he or she is while in the house being quite for hours and what I'd paid a baby sitter in the past for was about the same for about 4hrs.. I GUESS it's a sweet spot thing and balance it's self out in the wash... and now that these places buy and sale used or preowned .games with protection insurance if you want .I think 60 bucks for a earned gift it workes for me...Or now days you can rent if you don't want to own..to each his or her own..
idk but when i was a kid i remember video games being $20 then they got up to $40. now they have been $60 for awhile.
That's why I don't buy Video games anymore plus I get tired of playing them.
ya same $10-15 for standard, and $20-30 for limited editions which where actually limited. idk where he got those prices of hundreds of dollars, I remember buying mortal kombat (3 I think) and street fighter alpha 2 for $20 each...
Brand new games were $50.00. When a game just came out brand new in the ps2,ps3, xbox 360, and wii era. Then eventually xbox 360 and ps3 games moved up to $60. While ps2 and wii games stayed at $50.
I only remember $20 as a kid. 360 was basically a newer gen console anyway at the time. those games were like $20 - $40. wii games were like $40. anything before that era used to be like $20. so like ps2 and gamecube era, and ps1 era.
@@dream323 probably when they were out for a while they price probably reduced to $20 -$40 around that price pretty much all games were $50 on release right when they came out.
I feel the price should drop on digital games because there is no distribution, retailer, or returns. $35 or $40 should be fine for digital games, and some are moving that way, such as Overwatch did.
[Internal Damage Detected] I completely agree, but then, most people would only buy digital games, and those retailers would go out of business.
Actually keep the games at 60 let us buy the game and test it out... and we have 3 hours to get a refund
Steam can do you one better, you have 14 days or 2 hours of game time to refund. Should still drop price.
Martin Ladjimi
many people especially from the ps1/ps2 days wants to 'hold' the game so retailers will get their money still :P
Steam takes 30% of sales and less from activision and such publishers
The average price was $49.99 for the longest time in the USA not $59.99. It wasn’t until the Xbox 360 and PS3 era when it was normalized around 59. Love your channel but I do believe this is an error.
lol he's mad because he can't admit he was wrong
You must be a jit. Games were 49.99 for a while
JT Sandhu i don't play Minecraft, if you didnt realise, I play it for my autistic friend :)
Games used to cost 30. Super mario 64 was only 29.99. I mowed lawns for a couple weeks to afford it. First price hike i remember was when i bought the legend of zelda ocarina of time and, a few weeks later, chrono cross both of which cost me almost 40. I wanna say one was 34.99 and the next was 39.99. I remember because i only had 42 even and it wasnt enough after tax so my Mother made up the difference.
What are you talking about? It used to be 49.99 in the late 90’s early 2000’s
Lunimatictv was just gonna comment that as well. I definitely remember ps2 games being $50
@@Kyle-su2wq Explain It To Us How It Really Works Then.
Sorry dude, but you are just wrong. The price points for games was as follows in dollars of the day:
Atari 2600: $15 when it was hot, $3-5 during the crash
NES: $40 MSRP with games often discounted to $20 by retailers
SNES/Genesis: $40 to $80, depending on how big the ROM was, FF2, Phantasy Star 4 and FF3 and RPGs in general were quite pricey due to their size at that time
CD and DVD based games (Saturn, PS1, Dreamcast, Xbox): $40
More recently games have crept up to $60 due to the collusion and price fixing you indicate, but that is actually illegal and may get the publishers in trouble if they are actually doing that (Nintendo and EA have already been penalized by the US government for price fixing from what I remember)
Greedy publishers are trying to suck as much cash out of their customers as possible, but the reality is that the video game market is huge ($108,000M in 2017 vs $100M in 1985), and with disc based games, the cost to produce a copy is only a dollar or two, a few cents for digital downloads, versus up to half the register price or more back in the cartridge days.
For example, the Gears of War franchise has sold 27M copies and made over $1,000M in sales. Total development for the franchise was about $90M. Thus, on that one IP, MS made $410M as the publisher and another $100M on platform licensing in pure profit (ignoring the sales through XBL, which also nets MS the retailer cut).
The reality is that once a game makes back it's development and advertising costs, it is 90% plus pure profit, and boy do the publishers profit. And we are not even talking about microtransactions yet. Fortnite cost under $1M with a barebones team working on it off and on for a number of years, but it has made developer Epic over $1000M in less than 10 months. Sure, they have probably sunk another $10M into the game in that timespan, but we are still in the 10,000% profit margin range. No other business on the planet short of armed robbery nets that kind of profit margin.
Most of the profits from these games goes down the publisher rat hole, either paid out to investors or sucked up by the army of corporate types working at the publisher who serve no purpose other than to crush creativity and homogenize games. One of the great things about Steam is that they have largely circumvented at least the big publishers and allow much more of the cash from sales to come back to the developers.
If game developers and the people who worked for them were smart, they would go the way of the MPAA and the guilds around making movies, collectively forcing publishers to force better working conditions and more fairly distribute the revenue from game sales to those actually creating the content. Everyone who significantly contributed to create the Gears series, Fortnite and all the other blockbusters should all be millionaires, still leaving room for the publishers to make several hundred percent return on their investment.
I didn’t read this but you got a like coz it has more words than 42 and 42 is a big number.
bennyhannasd YOU’RE HIRED
What is 108,000M? And 1,000M?
Unessessary. Nobody is gonna read all that...
NjijSantia08.
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I'd rather pay an upfront fee of $60 to not get cucked by pay-to-win players later on
Generic Dank Meme my school fee in pakistan is 10 dollar and you are talking about 60 Holy Cow
I am over reacted I have iphone 7 plus and my brother has a iphone x and father is a doctor 😅😅😅
MobCompu Rumors huh?
Generic Dank Meme dont play p2w games?
MobCompu Rumors what are you trying to say exactly?
The funny thig is that. That happend to SW battlefront
$60 is still too expensive imo, at least for single player games with campaigns that only last a few hours. I can't really justify paying $60 bucks for that, especially when it's a digital copy with zero distribution and production cost. At $20-$30 there would be a ton of games I'd consider buying.
And for the record, it's not that I don't have the money, I live in a developed country with average hourly wage of $20-$40, it's really all about the value. I'd rather go to the cinema five times or go out for food and a couple of beers two nights, than to pay $60 for Far Cry Primal or $40 for RE7.
BudgeThePutcher Games can also have 300 hours of gameplay, which is equal to $.50 per hour of entertainment. And if a game is $60 and not worth it, people won't buy it and they will drop the price. The point is, most games will sell at least a few copies at $60, just like a few cars will sell as maximum price, regardless of quality. Also, if Primal is equal in length to other Farcry games, you will certainly get more hours of entertainment than 5 movies. And if you don't, then it just isn't the game for you. But someone else will get 50 hours out of it, easily, making paying $60 well worth it in my opinion
*60/300=$0.2/hr.
However, most single player games range between 8-24hrs of content(source: polls on howlongtobeat.com). Maybe I'm not the typical gamer, but I would chew through that in a weekend or two and a week after that I would have forgotten I had the game altogether.
The main point though, is that I think other experiences are typically higher quality of entertainment than what can be achieved in front of a computer or TV. Thus, a simple $/hr calculation isn't fair imo.
I also can't help but to compare it to multiplayer games like Fifa, Dota, CS:GO and PUBG which offers nearly infinite game longevity for the same money or less.
BudgeThePutcher Yeah, I don't know why I divided 300/60.
But even if other sources are higher quality than video games, which is highly debatable and varies based on the game and the alternative activity, the alternative activity is typically way more expensive. I don't buy shitty games that offer 10 hours of content. Some people might, and that is why the games start out at $60; supply and demand. If you are a gamer who values gaming (the type of person willing to pay $60 for a game you really want), you will typically know what games you can best get your value from. And there are more and more "gamers" every year, and most are willing to pay $60. I don't think going out to the cinema is worth it unless I go in the morning when it is $5.18 a ticket near me :P I am quite frugal, though.
I don't think the cost/time argument is unfair. I expect the game that you purchase and buy is something you will enjoy very much. Hell, Fortnite is free and people have way more fun for free than going out and seeing "Solo: A Star Wars Story". A smile is a smile to me.
Obviously going out and dancing with ny girlfriend is higher quality entertainment than playing a video game, but those are two completely different things for different times
Also, It cost a hell to get coders and artists
Yes, I can fully understand the high costs. But sales aren't driven by costs, they're driven by demand. Thus, a product can be too expensive regardless of the cost.
I'm pretty sure MW2 cost $200 million with the advertisement budget included. It must have cost much less than that to develop.
Some 250-300 skilled programmers have to work for ~ 2 years to make a game like this so...
Same thing happens with Destiny (1), which was said to have the most expensive development in history, but in actuality about 80% of the budget was used for marketing, not for the actual development of the game. I personally think that a good game doesn’t even need to be advertised besides one or two trailers.
It is still counted as a cost of production.
PabloV1299 the 500 million dollar budget is for all the destiny games that they will make, they never stated that it was only the 1 one
it 150 million for advertising and 50 million for the game itself.
I've always felt like paying $60 for a game is honestly not that terrible as long as you can get in a decent amount of play time with that game. I also feel like, paying a little more for different editions of the game is sometimes worth it too. I don't see why people complain about the price of games. If I can get at least an hour per $ spent on a videogame, I think it's a pretty worthy investment. You're basically buying entertainment for $1 an hour. That's how I look at it.
They should be $40
Christocream Doubt it as they have been $60 for a long time and $60 is worth less than it used too. If anything they would raise the price but gamers would not allow it.
Cahzinar X Thank god. If it goes up any more I might as well give up on gaming.
Not4naME lol
Do you know g2a
No?
Oh i forgot that u are console peasant
At least $50
I remember the games being at $49.99 I think you may have skipped that part. 🤔 than the games went up to $59.99.
Chris Gomera THANK YOU. I thought I was going insane. The jump seemed to happen around 2012-2014 with the new gen consoles (Xbox One and PS4) if I'm correct.
Chris Gomera not even including tax
Yeah I remember this. The jump definitely happened for next gen consoles.
It sad because I feel like nowadays we are paying devs dimply for graphic quality and not actual good game play
Chris Gomera truuue
thats cause we ARE Ben.
Games actually cost 79.99 in Canada 👌🙏
Lol people acting like I don’t know what a currency exchange rate is. Technically Canadians are paying more for their game cuz if you convert 79.99 to American dollars it comes out too 61.66 + Canadians pay more taxes than Americans cuz u know we have free healthcare and stuff 👌
INVESTING HUSTLER - Stocks Money Entertainment The Canadian dollar is worthless.
This video is using USD not Canadian
Games actually cost your soul in brazil.
Yeah because all dollars are the same right.
Where are you buying games?
EB sells most for like $90-$100...
I’m going to wait until this games became $20 why would I pay $60
Zaid Abuhalawa you will be waiting a long time if you want AAA
@@charliebamber4257 Not really they are cheap in G2A after 6 months
@@charliebamber4257 you can buy used games they are cheaper
@@mtutoriales yea when they ate near the end and goign into to the next game
I waste my money on rainbow six siege gold edition
maybe for an american 60$ isnt that much , but for a Romanian thats like 238 lei which is a lot if you think that minimum salary is 1000 lei, why prices of a game aren't lower if you're country's currency is down?
Cineva in comentarii in serbia its around 6000 dinars
Thats no ones problem that romania and other countries with a failed and corrupt system dont let their people buy fun stuff because their economy is as strong as the one of medieval countries
are you telling me you guys pay people in laughs?
The Drunken Basterd we pay usual stuff x3 less than rest of the world but we pay games the amount of the rest of the world so its like you paying x3 more on games than usual which si 180$ instead of 60$ , imagine that
minimum wage in america is 7.25 per hour.
"Microtransactions" thinking about EA......
Battlefield 5 wont have Microtransactions I heard.
vixplay yeah 2K is 5 times worst than EA
Because the audience/potential buyers has risen massively. Gaming has become mainstream now, so they can afford to ask a lower price since they now they'll make up for it in the number of sales, also: microtransactions
This. Economy of scale.
That gamer market's gonna saturate eventually since gaming is now mainstream. The fixed price also goes a long way to explain why so many big publishers release their games more barebones today. Because 60 in real dollars is worth less today than in 2000's dollars. You are buying "less" of a game with that 60 today because of inflation.
At 2:50 you say that the Nintendo 64 was the last console to use CD-ROMs, when you meant to say cartridges.
ROM Cartridges... And yeah, I noticed that too. Your comment should be higher up.
Plus it's wrong. Switch uses cartridges
@@jorceshaman remember dvd don't let you lost brain cell
@@nichsa8984
Please translate your comment to English so that I know what you're saying.
@@nichsa8984 I think you also lost a brain cell my friend
60$ is actualy pretty expensive for a new vudeogame... especialy if your buying more than one!
Christopher hellcat P Same. I have to waste $160 Canadian if I want to just buy 2 AAA games this fall. Its insane.
Blastermaster Nes , yup them ROM megabit chips we're expensive! Now you got thumb drives with 128 Gigabytes that can have every console and arcade game.
Fully agree thank god we have utorrent and g2a
$60 is a lot...if you're 12 on your parents allowance.
Slavisa Tosanovic Excatly, broke bitches at their finest.
I just buy pre-owned, wait for clearance, or get them at auctions/bargain stores and sites.
Way cheaper. 👌
I didn't know my Mom's boyfriend had a youtube channel!
True same
nick_vids_ 😂😂
Pixelchu the thing is though by the time those games are clearance they have already died which sucks if you want to play online with your friends and they don't play it anymore
It's cheaper to steal them.
Well, nowadays you don't get a game for 60 bucks. You often get a cripple of a game where you have to buy another 200 bucks of microtransactions to get to the fun stuff. Tripple A games are full of shit, which is why I rather support indie games that maybe aren't that flashy but don't compromise on the fun part.
And that children is why we don't mention EA
L. Willis Call of duty... I mean Call of Microtransactions
That is why you don't buy EA games kids.
which is why you buy nintendo
Buy 200$ worth of microtransactions to enjoy a game? What the hell kind of games are you playing lol there are plenty of great Triple A titles just know what you’re getting before you buy it. And there a number of indie games that follow the practice of overpriced Microtransactions i.e Pubg
Something that you neglected to mention was how manufacturing costs have decreased as we moved to a disk based media and moved away from paper manuals and carts. Those costs are being reduced even further with the transition to digital only releases.
didnt games used to cost like 40-50?
Yes they did
Yea I remember ps2 games being $49.99.
I remember those days
Yea this video is bs
_FN-SIG-GLOCK- XD45 Yup, every year the new DBZ Budokai was $49.99 on PS2.
*1950's - "I bet there will be flying cars in the future"*
*2018 - "BUT MOM IF I GET THIS NEW FORTNITE SKIN I WILL BE FINALLY ACCEPTED AS A HUMAN BEING"*
I didnt lnow they were 100$ in the 90's
I believe that he is adjusting for inflation, so the price of games in the 90's would be adjusted for inflation, basically meaning that back then it was the equivalent to paying $100 for a game
I used to work in blockbuster and I remember may tapes being 300 dollars....before DVD's were out...I used to take home SNES games for free at that time. Cost of inflation is local, so the cost was not that high...i think the atari 2600 was 300 dollars in 80's money from what my dad told me....i still have it and still hate my atari....sucks so bad.
They were about the same, sometimes more
I remember as a kid in Canada in the 90s it was $60 for a game, now it's $80. $60 adjusted for inflation is around $95. NES games were $50, which would be $120 today. The Atari 2600 cost about $800 for the console when adjusted, games were between $60-$120. Imagine paying close to $1000 to play Pong on a 15 inch black and white TV, that's how bored people were back then.
Everything I comment is lies. They weren't that much, this is video is Garbage in that regard
It's stayed $60 largely due to the rise in microtransactions in game and for dlc
Games don't cost 60$. For 60$ u get the main title, You have to buy the levels extra as DLC for 20$ each. After that You have to buy Characters for your house, your wife and your obedience.
And even after that You get baited by micro-transactions
Shurimas Guide - Gaming Content It's true that DLC has been around for a while, but nobody is forcing you to spend extra money.
WWE is BETTER than NJPW! New Japan SUCKS! They force You not directly, but they do. Without DLC You can play the game, You bought for a full price for like a few hours, then u need 2 buy a DLC, or it's no fun
@WWE is BETTER than NJPW! New Japan SUCKS!: Well I agree with Shurima, I have played some games even on the computer that will release a new weapon or something that everyone has except you, and you keep getting raped until you get the weapon. And they release armor that virtually makes your opponent immortal unless you have said weapon lol
Or you buy indie titles and you don't have that problem.
And then after you’ve done all that, you just realize you could’ve just waited for the Black Friday deal...
Infographics show seems to be going down hill. Lots of irrelevant info. And boring filler words. This video could have easily been 3 minutes and given the same amount of relevant information.
Watch it at 2x speed
Name1 Name2 I do and occasionally have to skip forward too. It’s unfortunate. Their videos used to be fantastic. Now they’re just a boot-leg Kurzgesat.
I don't really see a change in the vids tbh they've always been the same type of basic knowledge and shitty statistical videos to make you feel better about yourself ex: if your a virgin your likely to be smarter
Name1 Name2 They’ve always been basic, just not this bad. If you watch the “what if the whole world went vegetarian” video, it’s a lot more stats and a lot less of the clickbait and fillers.
I personally liked their older videos tbh.
Games haven't always been "$60". I don't know when this myth got started, but it's false. I distinctly remember new games for console being about $50 in the PS2/GC era, with GBA titles usually being about $40. While games were roughly that price or higher in the past, the switch to disk-based media caused a massive decrease in the price.
Something that people also overlook is that the vast majority of a AAA game's budget is in marketing and graphics. It's not that game companies need to stuff every game with microtransactions, DLC, and season passes, it's that it increases margins on something the game company has already ensured is in the hands of millions and millions of people. Only the biggest budget games actually need those things to turn a profit, and even then, most of that budget is pissed away on Mountain Dewritos plugs, buying reviews from game journos, and running nonstop ads in dying media.
I guess you dont know what inflation is
I guess you don't know what a strawman is. I was pointing out that I don't now who started this myth that games have been $60 since the 90s, but it's a damn dirty lie. I was also pointing out how game companies could still easily turn a profit by cutting unnecessary costs without having to spend ever increasing amounts of money on marketing to get ever diminishing returns.
I remember $40 for the PS1.
I used to get PS 2 games in India at a dollar. Around 60-70 rupees equates a dollar. U can get a games for 30 rupees usually. Max is 70. India is best lol
I disagree. Haven't you noticed that the games pulling these Mountain Dewritos plugs, the Season Passes, the Fee-to-Pay stuff... haven't you noticed that it always seems to be the really huge media sensations doing it? Things like Shadow of War, Call of Duty, Star Wars Battlefront 2... games which are GUARANTEED to double, triple, quadruple or even more their investment - even if absolutely every single person who bought it paid only the $60 at a retailer and never paid a single cent on DLC or microtransactions, and even when you factor in the obscene amounts spent on marketing?
They don't NEED these things to turn a profit. They never have. They WANT these things. It's greed, not need.
I dont remember those games in the 90’s being over 100
I remember most games cost 39.99 and 49.99
I thought I was in some of "Mandela effect" I remember game being $39-$49 and $49.99 was the norm for a while till like the late 90's then $59.99 became the new norm. This video must be talking about other countries
@@Ericq401 Inflation. 60 dollars in the 90's is over 115 dollars today.
Yeah this guy needs to get his facts straight
Agreed, I distinctly remember sonic and knuckles brand new at $49.99, and being in disbelief. (The average game at the time was about $39.99)
Infographics is Far off p oint with this one, brings puts all of their videos in a knew light.
Also, if he's trying to adjust for inflation, that should have been stated or noted with those misinformed price tags.
That error alone makes this was a poorly researched video.
@@azurestream7816 Inflation is literally the first thing he talks about. 50 dollars in 1994 is 90 dollars today. It was pretty obvious dude.
Steam summer sale...
ye , i bought a $50 game for $25
efaes fefse what game
Black ops 2
efaes fefse u shouldve bought cod bo3
oh well I like the mob of the dead map
It’s better to sell a million copies at $60 then it is to sell 250,000 at $80 or $100. It’s hard to justify more then $60 for a game just like it’s hard to justify more then $20-30 or a movie.
weirdyoda04 that's because your selling 4 times as much for only 1.25/1.33 times less
Duh
weirdyoda04 dead ass theres so many movies that i think that looks pretty good if movies were cheaper id totally go see it but im gonna skip it. Im probably not gonna watch deadpool cause i cant justify the cost
Vadoom 335 that's why I have moviepass. 10 bucks a month and i can see several movies. Its not as good anymore since you can only see each movie that comes out once now, but you can still see every new movie that comes out for a low price. Before they made that change, I was going to the movies 10 times a month for 10 bucks, effectively 1 dollar a ticket
*than
Im not sure i buy this videos history... I used to pay $50 for my games Brand New...that was in the early 2000's
Flying-Artz same im like wtf why isnt anyone mentioning that. They were 49.99 and some dreamcast games like 2k used to be 39.99 in the 2000s
Alvin S exaaactly...
Alvin S Dreamcast was a dying piece of shit by the early 2000s, & was pretty much dead by 2001. Of course their games would not be super expensive, especially those lame sports 2k games. Also, DC was still fucking expensive at launch; that shit wasn't cheap, especially adjusted for inflation.
WWE is BETTER than NJPW! New Japan SUCKS! 2K games were amaizng and still kicking today i dont know what u are smoking but i guess youre right about the rest
No shit. we were all alive to see examples. DS games costed 35$ new. They are talking inflation.
You also need to consider the volume of sales has increased dramatically from the 90s as gaming has transitioned from a select few fans with there own personal consoles to being widely available across the world to all levels of society. This will compensate the increase in production expenses, but will inevitably come to an end if the volume of sales slow in its acceleration which is a possibility due to the finite number of people gaming. Contrary to that idea however many more children are getting into gaming at very young ages so this may continue for as long as the population is increasing.
EA at its best!
Matthew Mckenzie yes
Matthew Mckenzie Haha, good joke
Matthew Mckenzie EA want money
EA GAMES LOL
Matthew Mckenzie ISSA JOOOKE
$60 it's expensive enough
Santo that why we don't have nice stuff
Santo only if you don't do research and end up buying a trash game. Price per hour for videogames is among the best for any kind of media so nah
as a dev comments like that do hurt. of course we all understand prices can be high. but i do hope you understand some devs have to come round of the same wage as you. they can be your neighbor. developers dont just come out of america but from all over the world. many from china and east europe as well as south america. these are countries where there is not much money. and the money doesnt come back tk the devs unless you are at the top of the line. just so you know, creating a small indie game here in west europe costs around 300000 euros with a development time of two years in a 3man team getting subsidised and funded by the goverment living in student appartements of 600 euros a month paying of a study debt of 12000 euros simply to get the knowledge on how to do this stuff. and just so you know, the diploma is no guarantee you actually get a job or make a 'hit'. this is life of developing and we take it because we love games as much as you do. and in all honesty we would do it for free if we could. and some do.
Romar Boer i know but atleast make the dlc a bit cheaper or give it to us for free
or you could've just made a ROBLOX game
Noobeh Noober with that logic you can justify anything. in that case why didnt you just make a roblox game so that the 60$ is not an issue
thunder horse its more often than not that the devs are not actually making that the decicion. it is the marketing departement togheter with administration and the shareholders who have lot of say since its also their money. in my case i feel most dlc should be free. content that should havw been in the game from the getgo but didnt make it in due to time constraints should always be offered free. additional content like actual dlc deserves to be paid for. there goes a ton of work in there.
never said money was an issue to me, i don't support bad publishers no matter how much money i have to spend
Whenever I bought games for Playstation and N64 back in the 90s in America, the prices were around $29-49 for newly released games. I recall buying Mortal Kombat 4 for PS1 on its first week of release, it was well under $50. Dreamcast and PS2 consoles started off, their games were still around the $29-49 price range. It wasn't until the Xbox 360 and PS3 era that a $60 price tag became the norm.
Digital downloads should have brought the price down since no physical media is being used. Loot boxes and paid DLC content ect.. should bring down initial game prices also.
ditto the digital content is to give publishers more money because the $60 price tag isn't enough to turn a reasonable profit. The price of new games hasn't changed since the 00s but the value of pretty much any currency has fallen. Not to mention that development costs have also skyrocketed, especially for today's gaming environment where longer more immersive games are pretty much a must.
By today's standards games should be like $80+ (with no additional spending). But no one wants to do that, it'd pretty much be suicide. So it's us, the consumer, who has accidentally voted with the all mighty wallet for digital content.
sir, what he mean was buying games digitally. also, games should not cost $80. $60 is already too much money spent of AAA games, which a lot of them aren't that good anymore. by the way, nintendo sold cardboard for $80. yes, the cardboard did sort off gave something but seriously. cardboard is worth more than a game with a lot of content that can last for years
ditto all the things you mentioned are the only reason game prices aren't _increasing_ because of inflation so I don't think costs are going to go down any time soon
Actually, any assertion about price not increasing with inflation assumes both real wage growth and that the technology used to create the games hasn't seen improvement and so gotten cheaper (i.e. why don't home computers still cost $10k... shouldn't they cost MORE with inflation!?). Not assumptions I'd be confident in staking my position on.
THEN reduce the distribution and returns component.
In stark contrast to all of this, the Sega Genesis released for $189US in 1989. That would be $382 today ($360 in 2014). The Xbox One released for $500 in 2014...
Loot boxes will be taken down soon because it’s online gambling
Pssshhh just buy it on humble bundle a week after the game comes out
Humbaruuu bunduruuuu
Winking Walrus what's so bad about charity?
LSU Cyndaquil The biggest baller
Or g2a
Dank Boi nah G2a uses stolen game codes, while humble uses legit ones and donates to charity!
Pssshhh just buy indie games that are usually more creative than most triple a games and also are cheaper
The creator of this video fails to mention one essential thing, the difference in games economy and the economy of other products.
If you are selling a physical product, such as a burger for example there is a small absolute cost in developing the recipe, getting the tools needed which are also more of an absolute cost with a small quantitative cost due to wear and the cost for the materials which is usually a significant one.
Games are software products which can be very easily be replicated with minimal costs so selling 1 copy or 100 million copies would have a neglect-able distribution cost. Instead the bulk of the cost is in making the game, which is an absolute price. So you pay 20 or 200 million upfront and then you need to make that money back by selling as many copies as possible at a highest price as possible. So you need to find the optimal relation between quantity and price in order to maximize profits.
Due to the fact that the number of gamers has increased exponentially since the 90's that means you can sell to way more people at a lower price than before and still make a nice profit. There is also a lot of pressure on the price due to a significant increase in competitors since the 90's on the same market, especially from the free-to-play and freemium market.
Back in my day video games were 40-50 dollars and all DLC (called expansions back in my day) were free... (I am 29 years old) Lol
DanPH77 Facts, this guy clearly isn’t a gamer
@@SincereTruths 100% agree. DLC is a modern gaming thing.
🤣 I was like was the price of a game being 50-55$ a mandela effect
cough sims
Cough diablo, half life.. and consoles weren't online so tell me how you got any free expansion? :P You mean mods?
I came to be the first comment, as I always wanted to be.. but I was too late.. Now I only want to know... How can people comment so fast? What is their intenet conection? What do they eat? When do they sleep? Where are they?
Mauricio Alfaro Peña ikr
Mauricio Alfaro Peña. Not everyone gets notifications at the same time though.
It's practically impossible to get the first comment by your own balls on popular channels like these, it all depends on you internet connection, if TH-cam feels merciful enough to send the notification at the right time, and outright luck.
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When I was ten in 2006 a video game cost 40-60 now they’re 60-80
Quinn Sinclair Hi Quinn it's nice to meet you, and my name is John. I really think it's because the "age of technology" has evolved and because a game is on a new system we have to have the understanding that it is on a new system and shell out the money for it. What's even stupider is when they release a game under a special edition tag and charge 80 or 90 for it, you buy the game and there's little content on there for it warranting the special edition tag.
John B aka Smooth Chocolate A standard game costs 79.99 which is just under 90 with tax. The only way it’s cheaper than that is if it is a third party game or isn’t selling very well as for example the LA Noir switch port which was 59.99 to the Switch’s usual 79.99. Most of the time special editions cost more like 109.99.
Besides that though the video seems to be maintaining that video game prices haven’t gone up in the last ten years compared to other merchandise when they most definitely have.
Quinn Sinclair mostly mainstream games or games like NBA 2K18, or the God awful WWE 2K18, cost the most and even their special edition counterparts.
Quinn Sinclair what systems do you have if I may ask?
John B aka Smooth Chocolate what I really hate is that when a season pass is 40 bucks and the game is 60 but the season pass comes with a "gold edition" which is like 200 dollars
Price of games HAS changed. It's gone up. The reason why: You pay $60 for the base game experience, the unfinished product. Then you have to pay for season pass or DLC to get the full game experience (not even expansion packs, just for content which should've been in the game to start).
And if you want a further unstripped experience, you need the Deluxe Edition.
All in all, games today cost $120-$230 *each.* The $60 you pay in the store is just your ticket that lets you buy the rest of the game.
Also on the subject of rising development costs, this is provable *bollocks.* These development costs are something the publishers and developers choose to undertake because they need the fish to swim away from a player in a FPS game about futuristic war, and because they want 4K resolution compatibility and physics-enabled grass...
My point being they are incurring these costs upon themselves for completely superfluous reasons. That the publishers and developers are unable to properly budget their games is not something which we should be paying for anyway. If they can't do that, then they have no place in the gaming industry and should get out.
$60,000,000 should be more than enough to make a quality game that is profitable, groundbreaking & still modest in its expectations.
It's also completely possible to make a high-quality game with high-quality animations and graphical fidelity for less than $5,000,000. I don't know the exact budget for Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice, but it was not high in the millions, I'm pretty sure.
As a cost-saving measure, they even went low-key, buying cheap props from IKEA and filming cutscenes in their boardroom the 'cheap' way. You don't need a $3,000,000 film studio to do that stuff.
These are things *publishers and developers choose.* And it's ridiculous! We want good games. We don't want all that expensive, superfluous shit. GTA5 cost hundreds of millions to make and it's cool and all that, and it made its money back before GTAO was even up, and that was despite most of the development costs going into the technical details, leaving a mostly empty world for you to explore once you were out of the cities.
I got more content out of Warframe's "Plains of Eidolon" open world zone than I ever got out of GTA5, and that was nowhere near that expensive to develop.
"All in all, games today cost $120-$230 each"
lol
Nope. Think about it, could you say GTA5 or Skyrim has less or more content than past games? Even without DLC, the games these days are much much more content heavy and are cheaper.
Only reason the game companies can support the price is because there are simply more consumers (more people play games than in the past). Since there are more consumers, the video game companies can lower their price until they obtain their profit margin. They charge premium for more contents.
Tenaar Feiri pretty sure gta v wasn’t that expensive to make
Tenaar Feiri did ya get that from jimquisition? Just asking.
what about fortnite (BR) ? You don't need to pay 60 dollars/euros you need 10 € and you already have enough for that battle pass and the main gameis going to l be free this year.
Look, had to pay 300$ for a ps4, 60$ for a game, another 40$ for the season pass, 60$ for ps plus, and 60$ for another controller because my brother wants to play with me
couldve saved and got pc 60 dollar games are usually 30 in steam sales season pass drop in price too and no need for ps plus and maybe a controller if u wanna split screen
FSTD3AD the ps4 has a good chunk of games tho
ik but rlly most of ps4 games are on pc but some times games on ps4 are better like cod and fifa
@@lunarthicclipse8219 ammm a decent pc is 4000 dolars,trust me I have one
@@AdityaRamachandranx an i3 pc costs 400 dolars LOL
Here in Australia, games usually cost 100 or more dollars here. However, as a kid, there was never a set price until a few years back in the early 10s. Before you could get an Ratchet and Clank game for 30-40 dollars and then maybe your "party game" like Mario party or TV show game for like 20 dollars or cheaper. Best part were the sells when sometimes games would be as low as 15 dollars.
The Great Sloth Lord Same here in Canada
Ratchet and clank is lit
Exchange rate?
"It was enough to buy an Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii in today's dollars"
So, $100?
사이 they meant factoring in inflation.
@@GackZalifinakis we sold an xbox360 whit a music set guitar drums and a mic. A pedal and a driving wheel. Games for it. Ahem 60€
@@GackZalifinakis Nostalgia but me in the balls when you said "old ass systems"
WWE is BETTER than NJPW! New Japan SUCKS! I actually still have my Xbox 360 and still use it a lot. But that’s probably because game devs these days are really greedy and try to use cash grabs in their shitty games.
@@GackZalifinakis alright chill damn
In Canada the price has gone up from 60$ - 80$
No that's just the difference in currency. Most games are 80 CAD here, but when converting to the USD it's roughly $60. So we Canadians experience the same price as well.
ZETSU BOU NO SHIMA I’m aware, the point is that with inflation your price hasn’t changed, but here in Canada is has, used to be 60, now is 80
No it was 69.99 to 79.99
it used to be 2 generations ago 49.99 usd for a game.....
Sprok56 it's 80 dollars in Canada so stfu
Gets free game: wow so cheap
game:want cool shit then buy over 100$ of cosmetics
As long as they do not make a character stronger, it's fine.
@@Quantum-Bullet you meant being p2w i guess
@@lilibra6224 try path of exile. :)
Let's save you watching this video. It's called micro transactions
DOCTOR J yea full unworthy microtransitions
I doubt fortnite would be played a lot if the price tag would be 60 dollars
Simon Mob it wouldn't even sell BC it is a semi ripoff of pubg
EmeraldGameZ pubg didn’t invent the battle royale concept by that logic pubg copied the hunger games pubg had nothing to do with fortnite🤦♂️
tikfoflores2000
semi ripoff xd
read it carefully
EmeraldGameZ I did read it carefully it’s in the same genre but name one thing they have in common besides being a battle royale?
they both have guns
both are based on unreal engine
both have vehicle
the direction hud is literally the same
plus i said semi-ripoff, not 100% ripoff lol
*Cries in Canadian* ...Well it _was_ 60$...
It still is 60 usd. The usd just got better and is no longer at parity
Yeah in Canada it's $80 which is just about $60 USD
Pepsi Puppy yupppppp
Pepsi Puppy You can thank your socialist policy for everything being more expensive in Canada.
lololol you know nothing about Canadian politics
AAA Games will stay at $60 price tag, but they will add in microtransactions, so you can buy some cosmetic shit for money.
It is heading that way (see BFV) and I don't mind actually, because It is much better if there are some cosmetic items people can buy rather than to sepparate community by paid DLCs and Premium stuff.
Of course it would be great if games which are asking for $60 didn't have any microtranscations at all, but that is not going to happen, because it is generating tons of money.
Toon M As long as the microtransactions are cosmetic only and worth it, I'm fine with them. Shark cards in GTA Online are a bit of a problem. 100 dollars of your real life money for 8 million of in game money? That should be the dictionary definition of a ripoff.
You don’t have to buy the micro transactions. Don’t know why people bitch about them. Just don’t buy them 😹
“It is headed that way” lol Dude we aren’t headed that way. We are already here. It’s been this way for a few years now lol
HooD1n I think you mean 7.4 million people at $27 each to get to $200million.
Games aren't $60, they are $200+. It's just hidden in DLC. And I honestly think some of these game are worth this price. If you play 1000 hours for a game, that's only 20c and hour. it's totally worth it.
HooD1n not many games cost 200$ to make though, that's just big titles from big publishers (like EA).
In today's world $60 doesn't get you a full game because all the dlc and shady business practices. In reality, games now cost well over $150.00, but a game sitting on store shelves with a price tag of $150.00 would never sell.
Most games on steam range in the 20 - 40$. poor console poeple
I'm a PS4 Fortnite/COD player (I wish i had god of war) and cod is expensive and passes are expensive too, but then again console players have their own advantages. Basically, i'm saying that neither is better, but we all know XBOX is worst, trying not to be biased but thats why i bought the ps4 and ps3 over the 360 and xbox one, lol.
Xbox one is not the worst but i respect your opinion
"Poeple"
😂😂😂😂 people*
Mizaris Nah ps4 pro has games....Xbox x doesn't have a lot exclusives
I got several types of cancer from reading this
I remember being able to buy a game for £30-35 then went up to £45-60
Is this some sort of UK joke I'm too American too understand
@@lbvbrosvaldez3504 lol no it’s a ps3 boomer joke
@@lbvbrosvaldez3504 actually a ps2?
Welcome to the console market where every game costs 60$ by default even though they include 30 more dollars of DLC and a bunch of microtransactions.
I remember games used to be 39.99 or 49.99
Um the Nintendo 64 was the "last" home game console to use cartridges? It is 2018 and the Nintendo switch reverted back to use game cartridges for their latest home console since 2017.
Ev'ixyn video mentioned ROM cartridges specially. Maybe that's what they meant? I could be wrong; honestly don't know too much about how console hardware works 🤷♂️
I think this video isn’t current. He said that 90s $100 could buy a wii and a 360
Re-watch the video. It did not say that.
They are much better. They last much more and don't get scratch easily like cd
jonathan murillo That's not true, those shitty cartridges can have dead batteries over time & stop saving game files. Yes, CDs do get scratched, but you also had to blow the stupid cartridges for them to even work properly. Sometimes they don't even work anymore when you insert the stupid games in the system.
0:28 “ these are sooo cheap!”
Collectors: run while you still can
Aaaand then there's Steam, where amazing Indie games cost 10 € on release. And are often better and way more original than most AAA games.
Garry's Mod 👌
Bought it for like 2-4 dollars thanks to summer sale.
Good non-expensive games
Team Fortress 2
Quake
Garry’s Mod
Terraria
Ultimate Doom
Team Fortress (free quake mod)
So true! I love indie games 🙂
And then there is shovelware, making up the majority of indie games on Steam. Objectively bad games, zero passion and made to make an quick buck.
Cans of Arizona iced tea are also immune to inflation. I wouldn't trust a store that puts those $1.25 stickers over the 99¢ tag printed on the can.
Cans of Arizona iced tea have not innovated in 25 years, games get bigger, with better graphics, and have that stuff. games now are way more expensive to produce.
ozmoz01 I would argue that Arizona has innovated but in different ways, such as using cheaper (not necessarily worse) ingredients and flavorings. (soft) drinks themselves are also pretty cheap to produce and sell at a great profit margin, like with fountain sodas, and for stuff like water the price is for convenience and the container. I think they're better off taking the slight loss of inflation to keep their reputation of being a 1 dollar drink.
It's easy to make good tea or fruit drink in large amounts for cheap but it's a pain in the ass to do it every time you want something sweet tea or fruit flavored.
Arizona is some of the best on-the-go tea you could ever have. That $0.99 pricing a hand from God for my entire 25 years of life
THAT'S A LIE. Newly released Games cost $59.99..
See what you did there
money king1223 I dont
Dark Souls remastered is $40
manoj kr Khatri whays a remastard game?
manoj kr Khatri you know there is tax right?
I wish games were still $60 now they’re $80
The way he says Mario. Smh
Marry-o.
Is that a regional way to say that? Cuz the main guy from Gameranx says it that way too, and it makes me think that they’re from a certain part of the US
Pokémon Dude how else would you say it. My name is Mario and that's how I say it
Marios But it’s not the way you pronounce the CHARACTER Mario.
Yeah and guess what the Italian (correct) way that Mario himself pronounces? MA-RIO. Listen and play the game lol, gtfo with your Americanised bullshit
When it came to Nintendo games they were more cheaper as in $20 cheaper then Xbox and Playstation games. They used to cost $50 while Nintendo games used to cost 35 to $40. Believe me I do price checking for a living. Ever since Wii U and the switch came into the picture,it went up to $60. But here's the kicker,most games Xbox and Playstation games $60 but it doesn't end there! downloadable content and online membership fees to play said game. It is costly. I remember when GameCube was around,a fresh game used to cost $25 to 40$. When Wii came out,it was 40$ and rare cases 50$.
Thank you they did used to cost 50 dollars
Jesse12489 it’s cheaper to buy digital games
Legend of Zelda on the NES was 75 usd
Yeah it was weird when he said that games started getting sold at 60 dollars per game in the 90s. I distinctly remember that AAA games cost 50 bucks when they were first released in the early 2000s
I like how OP was trying to claim Nintendo games cost over $100. He didn't even say he was adjusting for inflation either. He was flat out lying.
Well now it can stay $60 for a while now going forward thanks to the popularity of going digital. Publishers are making more profit thanks to digital since it eliminates the cost of returns, stocking at retailers and making plus shipping out physical games. Now Publishers save $26. So the make 27+26=$53 in profit per game sold to consumer.
I would argue that is not a great enough of a factor to help. The main cost saving method is developers being efficient at creating cost effective tools for game design. However they also get very derivative games and sequels as a result. Im at least talking from the perspective of a game dev that is more corporate, which your initial point of going digital makes a lot more sense with...
I remember when the highest price was $50. A little before the ps3 came out it slowly shifted to $60.
yeah I remember getting mortal kombat subzero for $50
They are ripping us off
$60 is too high nowadays anyway, only some AAA's do it like sport games and COD's. But other games don't really stick round $60 as that's too high for gamers now
So marvel spidermans price will drop?
60 is cheap when you think about how n64 games were 50
Almost all triple A games release at 60$ usd
I remember new games being $30 and my moms husband telling me “video games aren’t cheap” . Now I’m a adult and I’m paying $65 for new releases. It’s insane.
And to answer your question at the end of the video, I feel like if they raise the price any more than it already is people wouldn’t buy new releases. $60 is just in the middle between affordable and too expensive for most people.
In Canada, most "full price" retail games sell for $80. I feel like these companies realize more casual gamers would be turned off by a higher upfront cost, which I think is part of the reason the price hasn't changed much
Yes and more micro transactions and buggy games
It's the same price is America.. the Canadian dollar is just worth less so it looks like it costs more.
I'm from the future & this video didn't aged well
it probably wasn't as easy to gauge, it's possible income, back then, unlike today. games have become one of the highest grossing businesses in the entertainment industry.
The thing is the RAM that cartridges used in the late 80’s-early to mid 90’s was very expensive, which is what inflated the cost of games to $60-75 US (along with specialized chips that some games came with on the NES and SNES). Once we went into the CD and DVD era of gaming, the costs dropped to $40-50 since they were cheaper to manufacture. With the additional space the medium provided along with tech advances, the games got more elaborate and more expensive to make which is why the price went back up to $60 with the PS3 and XBox 360 era.
If anyone's interested the game machine from 1940 was called 'Nimatron'
The gaming industry is making more profit that ever before. $110 billion last year.
But besides that, there is no reason to raise price because frankly, producers have to keep it at a price the consumer will pay. That's how it works.
N64 last to use CD-Rom? are you guys this clueless? They never used CD-Roms!
The Wii and Wii u used CD-Roms, which what they mean by that are discs. The switch and the ds's have cartdriges tho
So to everyone competing about how the price varies in their countries-
Even heard about Purchase Power parity?...or Inflation?...no one??..
*MURICA*
Lucifer's son didn't expect to see you here
Lucifer's son what about how the price of packaging, and manufacturing of the package, graphics and art, etc was factored into the $60.
Take away those things (digital versions) and you would think the digital versions would be cheaper but people will still pay those cost and increase the game companies profits
Say what!?
TohinArashi Buying digitally is boning yourself too because you don't even own the copy of the game, you are just licensed to play it. I trust steam enough, but I've read a lot of threads of ridiculous bans on PSN where people lose entire libraries of games. The smartest purchases are physical, though steam is the ultimate platform for getting your money's worth for sure
Lucifer's son ikr
Games were 49.99$ until about 2010
Rockets. Didn't see anybody else mentioning this. Yes they were. It's was just $49.99/$50 for your typical new release. Not always $60 like he says. There was huge backlash when it increased to $60.
Rockets. I remember those days too.
I remember buying new games for $40.00 to 49.99 on PC while console on consoles sold them for about 10 dollars more. Now days PC are selling at the same mount for 60 USD. Kinda miss those days, on the bright side PC gaming outlets does provide a 10%-20% pre-order discount usually on GOG, Humble bundle, IndieGala and Greenman Gaming. Which is a few dollars saving but still prefer the raw price cut instead of being matched to consoles.
My brudda
I dont understand why game cost money in the first place when i can just play a free game that much more fun than the money one
Yeah, there are a lot of free games which are more fun than a lot of paid games.
It’s not gonna stay this way for long especially because of the cracking down on loot boxes and what cod just did making multiplayer dlc free following Fortnite with weapons and add one to the map we will see the price go up in games in a few years because they are going to start losing money on games if they don’t
i remember every ps2 game being $40. somebody tell me im crazy please.
cat_in_the_wall you ain't crazy. I remember this as well. Clearly the maker of this video didn't.
I remember AAA games when first released were about 50 dollars. After that, they go down
Everything is getting rotten right to the core because of the Profit companies want to make
The price has changed in many ways though. Sales have become far more prevalent with online retailers such as Steam, and several services offer free games for about the cost of one game per year. Indie developers and smaller studios also sell games far below that AAA mark, so I think it's fair to say that the price has indeed changed. Not for AAA titles, perhaps, but in general, it's a lot less expensive to be a gamer now than 10 years ago, when it was a lot harder to find games on sale. Like, on steam sales (and other kinds of sales) you can get AAA games for $10 sometimes. I agree that compared to the cost of manufacturing the price is low, but that's also the case with movies, books, and other things we consume. This kind of model is made so that companies can break even or make a profit if their games sell enough copies, granted this isn't easy, but it would be a lot harder to pull off if games cost $3-400, which is probably why the $60 pricetag hasn't changed.
To all the people complaining that this video didn't answer anything...
1. The publisher wants to sell more copies so they basically force outlet stores to sell hard-copies at $60, otherwise they'll stop doing business with them
2. No one wants to be the first to raise the standard price of their games to $65 or $70, because then they'll be outsold by all the cheaper $60 games. Basically they have to match the price of their competitors, which is every other AAA title.
3. The developers get paid regardless of how expensive the game was to make, so they don't care how much the game costs, as it doesn't affect their pay directly whatsoever.
Now shut up.
In Canada videogames went from $59.99 to $79.99 over the past couple years.
Peanut Butter Pizza you must be new to TH-cam. 90% of videos discussing about these kind of things use USD. So yes, it does revolve around the US
Peanut Butter Pizza but you had it cheaper
Big Shaq you’re not getting what hes trying to say. In Canada we payed $60 for games a few years ago. Now we are paying $80. Games were not originally $40 in the U.S, then turning to 60. It was always been $60 with no price change as the video states.
*Get Steam*
PC games in general. Overwatch was $60 on Xbox and Playstation and $40 on PC. Probably because we don't have to pay $20 to Microsoft or Sony for having a console
4:00 who holds a laptop like that
My grandmother
someone whose trying to show the viewer/audience something.
Who else is watching in 2021 and they’re finally beginning to raise the price to 70$ 😭😭😭