I'm a retired custom upholster, and I never knew this. I stitched virtually every job using the standard upholstery needles that came with my machine. This explains many of the things I noticed about using the needles I worked with when stitching custom leather jobs.
Good video and nice information on needles. The steppage adjustment on your presser foot is badly out of adjustment. I see these things and I want to fix them so badly!
Thanks for the comment! We specifically set the walk that way since we just finished a project where we needed the large walk to get over a thick transition of material and didn't want the foot to get caught. We forgot to set it back, thanks for catching it!
@@SailriteWorkbench It wouldn't be a problem if just the steppage was set to max. What I noticed is the feet don't lift evenly. We should be getting about the same lift on the inner vibrating presser foot as the outer foot. That's what's out of adjustment on your machine. Best
@@TheThoughtfulWoodworker Setting it this way is necessary to achieve the maximum thickness transition (no short stitches from getting caught on material). If both feet were set evenly (between center walking foot and outer presser foot) it would not be able to step up or down as tall a transition as when just the outer presser foot is set to its max height. Think of the foot walk as a 12" ruler that needs to be divided between the two feet. When the feet are set evenly, each foot will lift 6" which makes the max thickness transition you can sew 6" (no, the machine will not actually sew something 6" thick). Alternatively, when you set the outside presser foot to 10" and the center walking foot to 2" you can now step up to 10" instead of 6". You are correct though, the walk motion will much smoother when the feet are set equally and it is the recommended practice to set them even.
@@SailriteWorkbench I don't think it actually improves the thickness you can handle, since one foot lifts higher and the other foot stays very low. At least that's been my experience. Your settings were obviously intentional, and that's all I was concerned with. Cheers.
@@TheThoughtfulWoodworker We appreciate it you reaching out about it. On a side note, I just watched the video you did on the folding table extension for the Leatherwork and it was phenomenal!
I would like to see a video that gives tips on minimizing the tracking marks that the feed dogs of the walking foot make into the leather when sewing on fine or soft leather.
We created a foot set for each of our machines that solves for this, you can find them here: www.sailrite.com/search?keywords=smooth%20set Just choose the one for your machine.
As they’ve already mentioned, the answer is to use presser feet/feed dogs that are designed specifically for leather. If your machine doesn’t have those available, you can buy a new set of standard presser feet and feed dogs for your machine and file down the ridges to make them smooth. Then, of course, turn down the presser foot pressure to the lightest you can manage without it causing issues for feeding the leather through.
Thanks for the fast reply. I didn't know that this foot existed -or these needles. These videos are so helpful. I don't think this foot came with our deluxe machine but I'll have to check as there are a few things we haven't even unwrapped since it came with so many extras and attachments. Even so, I have been super impressed with the way the stitching came out on the couple of leather projects I tried even though it was quite thick leather. I will have to look into these needles and the foot the next time I need to sew a leather item.
@@svbarryduckworth628 I don’t believe any of Sailrite’s packages automatically come with the leather foot/feed dog set. I’m 99.9% sure they have to be purchased separately. I bought a set for my Fabricator and I am of the opinion that the price is very reasonable, especially for the quality.
I have Singer S0303 walking foot industrial sewing machine. This one takes 135X17 needles. I am unable to find leather needles for this needle size. Can someone guide me if there are leather needles of size 135X17 or DPx17
Another very informative video. Can you guys get 135x16/17 22-24 lr needles? Does anybody even make them? The 21 tri point I bought from you guys works pretty well with 138, but the 135x16 19 lr of course can't handle 138. I want that pattern, but with thicker thread. Should I just use perpendicular 22 needles. Do they make 24 P needles? My machine is supposed to be able to go up to 277 although I haven't tried it yet.
Thanks for your question! It depends if you're sewing the button by hand or with a machine. If you're sewing the button back onto a lambskin leather jacket by hand, you'll need a hand-sewing needle. You can find one using this link: sailrite.com/Assorted-Hand-Sewing-Leather-Needles-5-pack. If you use a machine, a round/sharp point needle would work well for your needs. However, the needle type would only matter slightly because the stitches won't be visible. Hope this helps, and happy sewing!
Hi! I assume you're referring to what was said 2:06. I'd say anything shorter than 4mm runs the risk of the stitch holes being too close. Especially for the DI Leather Needles. But the best course of action is to test out various stitch lengths on scrap leather to test the performance of the seam and that the holes are not too close. Leatherwork can be a trial-and-error process and varies greatly from leather crafter to leather crafter based on personal preference and the look they're going for. As for you second question we are sorry, but we are unfamiliar with that needle system as it's not a system compatible with our machines. But if you wanted to look, you could try PFx134DI or PFx134DIA, but not PFx134D needles...those are triangular point. The best advice would probably be to buy directly from your machine manufacturer so you are guaranteed the needles will work.
The largest thread you can use will depend on the size of your needles. With a range of sizes available for these leather needles, the largest thread you can use will vary. Our Fabricator, featured in the video, can sew up to Tex 138 thread. For more detailed recommendations on thread and needle sizes, you may find our Thread and Needle Recommendation Guide helpful: l www.sailrite.com/Thread-and-Needle-Recommendation-Guide
Great information, But as I own a Singer 45k1 flat bed, and Singer 132k6 flat bed and a Singer class 7-33 do any of sailrite needles fit these machines,
Hi! It's best to refer to your Singer machine manuals to determine the appropriate needle system for each of your machines. Once you've determined the correct needle systems, feel free to check out our selection of leather sewing needles here: www.sailrite.com/Notions/Sewing-Needles/Sewing-Machine-Needles/Needle-Use/Leather If you need any further assistance, don't hesitate to reach out to us at info@sailrite.com.
Are you using leather needles and still bursting the back side of the leather? Leather point needles are designed to cut through the leather and avoid that. If you are using fabric needles that could be the issue. If you are using leather needles and still having that problem, you could be using too large of a needle. I usually recommend diamond leather point needles. Our most recent video on the channel goes into more detail if you want to check that out!
@@SailriteWorkbench What should I do to make the back stitch look as beautiful as the front stitch? Do you think machine stitching is needle welded or thread welded?
Your best bet is to make sure you are using the right size needle and thread, use a leather point needle to make clean holes, and fine-tune your tension to make sure the knot is hidden in the middle of the leather. The back side of the stitch will never look quite as perfect as the top side, but if your machine is properly set up, you can still get great results. This link may be helpful. sailrite.com/Thread-and-Needle-Recommendation-Guide
@@jimgeelan5949 It was constructive criticism? It could have been fixed in post quite easily, while also being a critique of the importance of a good mic if you want to grow your audience. I thought the video itself was well done and was worth fixing the audio, which is always 50% of the experience.
You can find our selection of Leather Needles here: www.sailrite.com/Notions/Sewing-Needles/Sewing-Machine-Needles/Needle-Use/Leather and our Leather Foot sets here www.sailrite.com/search?keywords=Smooth%20leather%20foot%20sets
I have a LX3817G Brother sewing machine. Will a perpendicular point sewing needle fit in my machine? I cant seem to find where to buy the needle but i want to make sure it will fit in mine.
Our perpendicular point leather needles are Needle System 135x16. Your Brother sewing machine manual should list the needle systems compatible with your machine. If 135x16 is listed, your machine can use our needles. Hope this is helpful for you!
@@SailriteWorkbench is there a sewing machine you recommend that can use this needle and works with leather? i dont have much money to spend so are there machines out there that are cheaper and can do the job?
@@SailriteWorkbench hey i finally have the needles i need. I have 135x17. But the needles wont work for my machine since the shank doesnt have a flat side. It is round all the way around. Would the needles i hage work on your machine?
Hi! It's best to refer to your Cobra Class 26 machine manual to determine the appropriate needle system for your machine. Once you've determined the correct needle system, feel free to check out our selection of leather sewing needles here: sailrite.com/shop/sewing-machines/needles?facet_machine_needle_use=Leather If you need any further assistance, don't hesitate to reach out to us at info@sailrite.com. Happy sewing!
With a leather needle, the best thing to do is look at the tip. Does it look blunted compared to a new needle? Alternatively, if you start having difficulty tensioning the thread or the thread is shredding it is likely the needle is dull.
I'm a retired custom upholster, and I never knew this. I stitched virtually every job using the standard upholstery needles that came with my machine.
This explains many of the things I noticed about using the needles I worked with when stitching custom leather jobs.
What a great video concise, to the point and with out a bunch of bla bla bal. Thank You.
Your videos are top notch in value add. I learned more about sewing leather in 4 minutes than in any other place and time. Well done!
Glad we were able to help!
What a great video. It is awesome both in terms of information and cinematography.
Thank you so much for this video, as a leather Craftsman this video is what's making me pull the trigger and buy a Sailrite!
Thank you!
I appliqué leather all the time but didn’t know there was a range of needle points……game changer.
That sewing machine looks awesome. I need that leather walking foot and needle!
The machine we are using in this video is the Sailrite Fabricator! Here's a link to learn more about the machine: www.sailrite.com/fabricator
Thank you Madam for teaching us
Great topic, thanks 👍
Good video and nice information on needles. The steppage adjustment on your presser foot is badly out of adjustment. I see these things and I want to fix them so badly!
Thanks for the comment! We specifically set the walk that way since we just finished a project where we needed the large walk to get over a thick transition of material and didn't want the foot to get caught. We forgot to set it back, thanks for catching it!
@@SailriteWorkbench It wouldn't be a problem if just the steppage was set to max. What I noticed is the feet don't lift evenly. We should be getting about the same lift on the inner vibrating presser foot as the outer foot. That's what's out of adjustment on your machine.
Best
@@TheThoughtfulWoodworker Setting it this way is necessary to achieve the maximum thickness transition (no short stitches from getting caught on material). If both feet were set evenly (between center walking foot and outer presser foot) it would not be able to step up or down as tall a transition as when just the outer presser foot is set to its max height.
Think of the foot walk as a 12" ruler that needs to be divided between the two feet. When the feet are set evenly, each foot will lift 6" which makes the max thickness transition you can sew 6" (no, the machine will not actually sew something 6" thick). Alternatively, when you set the outside presser foot to 10" and the center walking foot to 2" you can now step up to 10" instead of 6". You are correct though, the walk motion will much smoother when the feet are set equally and it is the recommended practice to set them even.
@@SailriteWorkbench I don't think it actually improves the thickness you can handle, since one foot lifts higher and the other foot stays very low. At least that's been my experience. Your settings were obviously intentional, and that's all I was concerned with. Cheers.
@@TheThoughtfulWoodworker We appreciate it you reaching out about it. On a side note, I just watched the video you did on the folding table extension for the Leatherwork and it was phenomenal!
Do I have to use special sewing needles for denim fabric too?! 🤔
What needle should I use for sewing patches onto leather
Thank you ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
great video explained perfectly
Thank you so much great video
Thank you
I would like to see a video that gives tips on minimizing the tracking marks that the feed dogs of the walking foot make into the leather when sewing on fine or soft leather.
We created a foot set for each of our machines that solves for this, you can find them here: www.sailrite.com/search?keywords=smooth%20set
Just choose the one for your machine.
As they’ve already mentioned, the answer is to use presser feet/feed dogs that are designed specifically for leather. If your machine doesn’t have those available, you can buy a new set of standard presser feet and feed dogs for your machine and file down the ridges to make them smooth. Then, of course, turn down the presser foot pressure to the lightest you can manage without it causing issues for feeding the leather through.
Thanks for the fast reply. I didn't know that this foot existed -or these needles. These videos are so helpful. I don't think this foot came with our deluxe machine but I'll have to check as there are a few things we haven't even unwrapped since it came with so many extras and attachments.
Even so, I have been super impressed with the way the stitching came out on the couple of leather projects I tried even though it was quite thick leather. I will have to look into these needles and the foot the next time I need to sew a leather item.
@@svbarryduckworth628 I don’t believe any of Sailrite’s packages automatically come with the leather foot/feed dog set. I’m 99.9% sure they have to be purchased separately. I bought a set for my Fabricator and I am of the opinion that the price is very reasonable, especially for the quality.
I have Singer S0303 walking foot industrial sewing machine. This one takes 135X17 needles. I am unable to find leather needles for this needle size. Can someone guide me if there are leather needles of size 135X17 or DPx17
Great Video! What type of thred do you use for such beautiful stitches? is it 0.3mm?
Another very informative video. Can you guys get 135x16/17 22-24 lr needles? Does anybody even make them? The 21 tri point I bought from you guys works pretty well with 138, but the 135x16 19 lr of course can't handle 138. I want that pattern, but with thicker thread. Should I just use perpendicular 22 needles. Do they make 24 P needles? My machine is supposed to be able to go up to 277 although I haven't tried it yet.
What would you recommendation be for sewing a button back onto a lambskin leather jacket?
Thanks for your question! It depends if you're sewing the button by hand or with a machine. If you're sewing the button back onto a lambskin leather jacket by hand, you'll need a hand-sewing needle. You can find one using this link: sailrite.com/Assorted-Hand-Sewing-Leather-Needles-5-pack.
If you use a machine, a round/sharp point needle would work well for your needs. However, the needle type would only matter slightly because the stitches won't be visible. Hope this helps, and happy sewing!
How do you define, short, medium, long stitches?
And what needle description would be identical to PFX134LR in diamond head?
Hi! I assume you're referring to what was said 2:06. I'd say anything shorter than 4mm runs the risk of the stitch holes being too close. Especially for the DI Leather Needles. But the best course of action is to test out various stitch lengths on scrap leather to test the performance of the seam and that the holes are not too close. Leatherwork can be a trial-and-error process and varies greatly from leather crafter to leather crafter based on personal preference and the look they're going for.
As for you second question we are sorry, but we are unfamiliar with that needle system as it's not a system compatible with our machines. But if you wanted to look, you could try PFx134DI or PFx134DIA, but not PFx134D needles...those are triangular point. The best advice would probably be to buy directly from your machine manufacturer so you are guaranteed the needles will work.
What is the biggest thread that can be used with these needles?
The largest thread you can use will depend on the size of your needles. With a range of sizes available for these leather needles, the largest thread you can use will vary. Our Fabricator, featured in the video, can sew up to Tex 138 thread. For more detailed recommendations on thread and needle sizes, you may find our Thread and Needle Recommendation Guide helpful: l www.sailrite.com/Thread-and-Needle-Recommendation-Guide
Great information,
But as I own a Singer 45k1 flat bed, and Singer 132k6 flat bed and a Singer class 7-33 do any of sailrite needles fit these machines,
Hi! It's best to refer to your Singer machine manuals to determine the appropriate needle system for each of your machines. Once you've determined the correct needle systems, feel free to check out our selection of leather sewing needles here: www.sailrite.com/Notions/Sewing-Needles/Sewing-Machine-Needles/Needle-Use/Leather
If you need any further assistance, don't hesitate to reach out to us at info@sailrite.com.
@@SailriteWorkbench Thank you for quick reply and sound advice,
I shell do that,
Is there a method that does not burst the back of the leather while sewing? Can we handle this with needle selection?
Are you using leather needles and still bursting the back side of the leather? Leather point needles are designed to cut through the leather and avoid that. If you are using fabric needles that could be the issue. If you are using leather needles and still having that problem, you could be using too large of a needle. I usually recommend diamond leather point needles. Our most recent video on the channel goes into more detail if you want to check that out!
@@SailriteWorkbench What should I do to make the back stitch look as beautiful as the front stitch? Do you think machine stitching is needle welded or thread welded?
Your best bet is to make sure you are using the right size needle and thread, use a leather point needle to make clean holes, and fine-tune your tension to make sure the knot is hidden in the middle of the leather. The back side of the stitch will never look quite as perfect as the top side, but if your machine is properly set up, you can still get great results. This link may be helpful. sailrite.com/Thread-and-Needle-Recommendation-Guide
What kind or machine needle size if i use a 0.6 polyester leather thread? Thank you.
Hi, please email us your question at info@sailrite.com. We'll be able to better help you there.
That's damn fine macro slow motion filming. Shame about the audio quality.
Get over yourself
@@jimgeelan5949 It was constructive criticism? It could have been fixed in post quite easily, while also being a critique of the importance of a good mic if you want to grow your audience. I thought the video itself was well done and was worth fixing the audio, which is always 50% of the experience.
Where can we get these feet and leather needle for leather?
You can find our selection of Leather Needles here: www.sailrite.com/Notions/Sewing-Needles/Sewing-Machine-Needles/Needle-Use/Leather and our Leather Foot sets here www.sailrite.com/search?keywords=Smooth%20leather%20foot%20sets
Twist point leather needle link please@@SailriteWorkbench
Here you go! www.sailrite.com/search?keywords=twist%20point
@@SailriteWorkbench Thank you. What number are the needles in the video?
I can’t find twist point needles on your web site. 135-16
Search "twist point" and they should come up for you.
@@SailriteWorkbench can I sew 138 thread with the #19? Are there larger Sizes available?
@@michaelwolf8781 Yes you can!
I have a LX3817G Brother sewing machine. Will a perpendicular point sewing needle fit in my machine? I cant seem to find where to buy the needle but i want to make sure it will fit in mine.
Our perpendicular point leather needles are Needle System 135x16. Your Brother sewing machine manual should list the needle systems compatible with your machine. If 135x16 is listed, your machine can use our needles. Hope this is helpful for you!
@@SailriteWorkbench is there a sewing machine you recommend that can use this needle and works with leather? i dont have much money to spend so are there machines out there that are cheaper and can do the job?
@@brandonpropterhoc Since we don't sew on other machines it would be hard to make a recommendation. I am sorry.
@@SailriteWorkbench hey i finally have the needles i need. I have 135x17. But the needles wont work for my machine since the shank doesnt have a flat side. It is round all the way around. Would the needles i hage work on your machine?
@@brandonpropterhoc Yes! Those needles would work on our Leatherwork and Ultrafeed Machines.
Can these needles be used with a Cobra Class 26?
Hi! It's best to refer to your Cobra Class 26 machine manual to determine the appropriate needle system for your machine. Once you've determined the correct needle system, feel free to check out our selection of leather sewing needles here: sailrite.com/shop/sewing-machines/needles?facet_machine_needle_use=Leather
If you need any further assistance, don't hesitate to reach out to us at info@sailrite.com. Happy sewing!
How do you define short stitches, medium stitches, and Long stitches?
How to know what is the life of still good ‘looking’ needle?
With a leather needle, the best thing to do is look at the tip. Does it look blunted compared to a new needle? Alternatively, if you start having difficulty tensioning the thread or the thread is shredding it is likely the needle is dull.
Wow. I deeded that
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