It's shocking how people can repeat without fail that "Israel has the right to defend itself" and completely, and I feel deliberately, ignore the fact that Palestinians have the right to resist this brutal occupation.
It's a Colonial mindset. A Colonial occupier thinks it's perfectly fine to go and occupy another person's land/country, steal their property and resources. And if the owner resists then to massacre them, terrorise them into subduegation and to justify your own terrorism by labelling them as "terrorist", "savages" and "uncivilised" etc!
@@KHAN.S_Ali_Khan explain to me, why the Jordan army, with the help of Pakistan killed 25.000 Palestinians on September 1970. Explain to me, why the Middle East has a hands off approach with regards of Hamas/Israel war. Explain to me, why Middle East countries have always refused Palestinian refugees, although they pay lip service. Nobody in the Middle East cares about the Palestinians.
Nothing about the crime committed by Israel in the West Bank and other occupied territories. Why there's never talk about Have Palestinians the right to defend themselves?
because they have a colonialist and imperialistic point of view, and a group that opposes their views/will is considered a threat/terrorist organization and not for what they really are which is a resistance group who opposes their occupier.
@@cealy76 You omitted the fact that Hamas are Iran light , you approve of the Iranian regime ? Go watch " Whispered In Gaza " and see what a bunch of shites they are.They aren't quite the Taliban, but they aren't THAT far off.
@@HecticGlenn The answer lies in your question. IF "occupied people will resist occupation" and you answer with "Do you think Israel should exist?" What follows logically is that you have internalized and accept that Israel's existence is conditional on the occupation of the Palestinian people. And this already answers your question. NO! Israel does not have the right to exist. No state, whose existence is predicated on the oppression of others has the right to exist.
Are we surprise that a Former MI6 can't understand that a savagely occupied people will resist their atrocious ruthless occupier by any mean necessary. The Great Britain imperialism colonial mindset is still very much present it seems.
Occupiers? Pick up a history book. The first known mention of 'Israel' dates to 3200 BC. Palestine derives it's name from 'Palestina' the name given to the region by the conquering Romans in the first century; nearly 1300 years later.
I think this interview took place a few weeks ago Israel does not have a right to defend itself against those they occupy. And it has been revealed that most of the casualties on Oct 7 were caused by Israel’s own military
How did Israel occupy Gaza on 06/10/23 ?? Not a single Israeli has been there for 18 years Gaza had its own government, minster (including the vocal minister of health) hospitals, sandy beaches, amusement park, luxury hotels, zoo, palm trees What exactly Israel did to deserve to be called occupying Hamas? And why on earth would any person attacked not be allowed to defend themselves? Where do YOU live? Did YOUR family live there for 1000 generations? Would you think that indigenous British people be justified attacking all people in Britain who have been here less than 300 generations? Or even just arrived? Please, do explain yourself, don't just say things you clearly don't understand
@@JustAskingForAFriendOfAFriend To be fair, an occupation does not end until the occupier gives up their control of the area. You are still controling the prison even if you don't have any guards inside but hold the key to the door and guard the fence.
@hannacook6927 Sorry. Israel moved the settlements to the West Bank, which is illegal under international law. The occupation forces then redeployed to the edge of Gaza but controlled the land, air, and sea, making it the biggest concentration camp in the world. Occupiers cannot claim self-defence.
The faces of these ignorant men is appalling. "We failed in Afghanistan because we went in militarily"? Maybe you failed because you weren't wanted in the area?! How he can speak so freely about so destructive matters, is how humanity lost its sense of sense. Then he speaks about how terrorism wants to breed terrorism, as if terrorism is an entity with a life of its own. Its people who react to the conditions they are put in, which in this case is oppression, humiliation, subjugation, extortion, slaughter, and the list goes on. Notice how he "others" people by saying: "Us and them". These are all attempts to create division where there is none. There is no us and them, there is only life!
He's also completely detached from what is actually going on in Afghanistan now and how it relates to Palestine. The Taliban had political aspirations, they quickly established peace for their people once the US invaders pulled out and many people in the region say that Afghanistan is the safest it has been in the last 3 decades. The reason for this is simple, Taliban acknowledged the people's concerns and immediately stationed troops to take down terrorists around the region such as the few ISIS and Al Qaeda cells that operate there, which is why you can hear the (seemingly) paradoxical sentence "It's safe in this area because Taliban fighters are never too far away" Hamas serve a very similar purpose in Gaza, they actually talk to their population when making decisions, they operate with the specific intention of liberation and have listened to calls to revise their charter, enhance social programs etc.. They have high military spending given their budget, because Gaza needs to be viewed as a nation that is permanently at war since it is always under a military blockade, but should the reason for the military spending vanish, then Hamas will follow a similar (although not identical) path to the Taliban, becoming more political and less militarized as the danger subsides. The only way forward, which these establishment guys never understand is to give Palestinians their full rights and a genuine chance at self determination through a government that actually has the ability to carry out all its duties, not like current Gaza where Hamas are technically a government body but have no control of water, air space, territorial waters or trade routes in and out of Gaza.
Yes, exactly blame everyone except the true culprits , Israel. Israel is an occupying power so the question of right to defend themselves is not relevant. The relevant question is do the Palestinians have a right to resist the occupation.
yes,rigt. Only the question of the right of ANY occupied People to defend themselves has been resolved long anough ago by international LAW. A Brithish spy should be well aware of this!
Andrew and ex head of the M16, they have no clue about a conflict older than themselves what a planks, the problem didn't start on the 07/10 wow I'm lost for word😮
I find it interesting that, taking this guy at face value, his points are cogent and logical, and more reasonable than a lot of others. However, considering he keeps talking about actions being taken in a political context, he seems devoid of any consideration of political history and the context where Palestine has been under economic siege for decades, along with frequent incursions by the IDF and settler Israeli's.
Why would he? His job is to protect British interests and to spread western control. He is not there to offer his moral opinion, only justify his immoral government.
I remember one of interviews with Gaza children years ago, one of them was asked about what they wanted to be in the future, the answer was "Here, we die young" I couldnt visualize my rage and anger towards Israel and the rest who support them, I just couldn't get it why people can be so evil
@@hobanagerik Sort of. I think that the intentional and often explicit misinformation provided to voters about the policies they're supposed to be voting for somewhat detracts from the reality of democracy.
Problem is you can be a democracy for your own people while destroying everything around you internationally. America is the best example currently. Because they treat citizens normally they use it to justify their actions abroad as a moral high ground while creating current and future problems like extremism and wars.
Drapetomania was when the DSM (mental health bible) diagnosed slaves wanting to be free as mentally ill. We have in the west, a long history of condemning people who fight to cut the chains that have been placed on them by Colonial powers. Northern Ireland, South Africa, and now the Gazans.
No mention of the atrocities inflicted on the Palestinians from 1948 until 6 October 2023, or the implementation of the Hannibal Directive on 7 October.
It’s owned by an extreme Zionist so yes it has always been pro apartheid Israel and seeking to ruin any pro-Palestinian voices (Corbyn etc) while pretending to be liberal - pretty gross tbh
Absolutely is not your imagination. I have listened and cringed at the blatant bias by especially Nick ferrari Ian Dale and Sheilgh Fogarty on this Conflict .
TVTalk & GB 'News' we all should be aware is just as bad!! On TalkTV recently, both Julia Hartley-Brewer & Vanessa Feltz were allowed to continue to spout the lie about 'beheaded babies' on October the 7th attack!
Prime Minister Netanyahu and the moral question. After watching film footage of the relentless and indiscriminate bombing of Gaza, he suddenly exclaimed: “ARE WE BEASTS? ARE WE TAKING THIS TOO FAR?” (Actually, it was Winston Churchill, who said this, after the bombing of German cities in 1943.)
I would say the best part of this whole thing is referencing this mans experience fighting terrorism. BRO.... the US and NATO FAILED in Iraq and Afghanistan. What could he teach us? how to not get the job done correctly?
@@johnrussell3961 True enough, but they didn't even need to lie, since nobody believed the WMD story, especially since UN weapons inspectors categorically told them there are no WMD's (Hanz Blix, the chief inspector, made it clear to the press, before the war)
He was part of the establishment and no surprise that he is repeating the argument that is in line with the Israel objectives..still a subordinate even after he left the office
Why is Britain so OCD about China? Chinese news doesn't endlessly discuss it's relationship with the West. The Chinese people concentrate on working hard instead of analysing how great they are and how much of a threat Britain is.
Because daddy Murica says we have to be scared and bolster our defences with £££ that goes to weapons manufacturers. Remember Americas boogymen are our boogymen.
Interesting turn of phrase used ... appalling human tragedy of hostages ... what about all the people, many women and children, held by Israel without trial for indefinite periods? How is that not hostage taking? And regarding Oct 7, people that are brutally occupied in a concentration camp, "lawn mowed" with impunity from time to time, living in an apartheid state with their land confiscated by mostly white colonial settlers, and backed by the superpowers of the time, blocking any access to international courts through vetos, how do you propose they get their rights? Are they just meant to sit in the corner and just take it?
How is that a helpful way to address things? Don't you think it is alienating and blocks any way for someone who wants to find a middle ground to speak to you?
Mr. Younger tries to put a positive spin on the disastrous war (for the Ukraine). He dutifully is repeating all the US centric talking points. He is therefore a reliable errand boy for the US Empire.
@@kevinskiles2033 Contrary to your opnion I am no fan of the dictator called Putin. But it seems you have no idea what kind of games are actually being played by the US, EU and the UK in Eastern Europe.
Mossad and Shin Bet must have people with the same ability to understand terrorism as Sir Alex. That means the Israelis know they are following the Hamas playbook and are happy to do so. My guess would be that they want to force Egypt to take responsibility for Gaza while they seal themselves off from it and make sure security of the border is never neglected again.
His understanding of the situation is beyond abysmal. Trying to eliminate Hamas using strategies that were employed against ISIS would never work because the two groups are nothing alike. The only way you can compare the two is if you have zero understanding (or even sub-zero understanding) of human nature and the politics of the Middle East
These people were considered terrorists and barbarians. Joan of arc Nelson Mandela - ANC Nat turner Mordechai Anielewicz - brutal Jewish resistance What do these people have in common with hamas and resistance in Palestine?? They all did the same thing to fight Against occupation and apartheid. They are celebrated and Joan of arc is now a saint. You oppress someone enough. Things will pop. The brutality like necklacing by the ANC was what got them their freedom. It was brutal.
This is the Head of the MI6, he speaks from the UK Government heart, He has no sympathathy for the plight of the Palestinians and the 75 year occupation, or the bombardment claiming 15,000 people lives, almost 6000 children lives. He cannot see the underlying cause, so it is impossible for him to see a fix. as a former head of Intelligence??. He is basically a Governement agent, Told to tow the line with the superiors ordering him. He is a Soldier following orders. Disappointing.
Why can’t he speak about the history that most certainly contributed and led to Oct 7th? The British are deliberately ignoring their historical contribution to this land grab stealing from Palestine. If they were genuine then they’d have allowed the Scots and the Welsh to devolve. Calling out hypocrisy of the situation is an evaluation of reality and not radicalisation.
Andrew Marr: “As a security guy, were you surprised by the fact that Mossad apparently did not know what was going to happen?” Sir Alex totally dodges the question. Implication: Yes, he was surprised that Mossad was apparently not aware. Alternative implication: 🤔
Reality-detachment or gross-misunderstanding at UK's top-level is immensely disturbing - especially in its assessment of Ukraine and the Russian Federation. For the start of that conflict, examine AZOV's 2014 rampage through Mariupol.
A thoughtful and thought provoking interview. His comments on Gaza and particularly Israel buying in to the Hamas script have been mentioned by other commentators, but still deserve to be repeated. Netanyahu's government has either fallen for the bait because emotion has taken over or they have decided to play along because it suits their political purpose, particularly Natenyahu. I would incline to the latter.
Can we please start talking about the savagery, brutality and inhumanity of the occupation. JUST 56 YEARS. If you think checkpoints, second class citizenship of non Jews. Land grabs, lack of peace. The unconditional support of US, UK and EU. Condemn Israel. Condemn the occupation.
This guy is part of the problem. He is too experienced to not have the facts and what is really going on in Palestine as a whole and Gaza in particular.
Just the usual propaganda, Saudi are not criticised because they are considered allies by the American so the UK as always follows the same political line.
Russia has won the war. Ukraine doesn't have enough troops, weapons are ammo.Most the professional soldiers that caught Russia by surprise have been killed or injured. The average military age is now 40. It's just a matter of when Ukraine will start negotiating peace and how many more Ukrainians will die before that happens. That's the reality. Our show of support was superficial and now Ukraine are essentially alone. I know all this because my girlfriend's family are from one of the annexed areas, we speak to people back home daily. The Ukrainians are broken, they will never surrender, but at this point they can't make any progress. They will dig in as fighting grinds to a halt over winter and the Russians will target infrastructure like power to make life miserable for Ukrainians.
a nice balanced interview but I should also point out... israel was a terrorist state...britain fought the jewish settlers for many years before 1948...indeed 338 british soldiers were murdered by jewish terrorists between 1945 and 1948...their terrorists went on to form the likud party it seem the UK security forces have forgotten the basic principle that you have no permanent friends, every country is more a marriage of convenience at any point in time...israel is not our friend...they certainly stir up anti british sentiment in countries like iran to push britain closer to this marriage of convenience...for their own benefit it should also be noted that aggressive action isn't just about bombs and bullets, its also about the infiltration of our political class and media...which is now so compromised it pushes israeli propaganda at every opportunity we all know about hot wars, many know about the cold war...but israel has been undermining british sovereignty for many decades with their war of influence peddling AKA bribing our politicians
If we are saying what Israel is doing is a 'disproportionate response' then why aren't we saying Hamas's response to occupation was also simply 'disproportionate'. Language matters and the pro-israelis know exactly how to twist the narrative!
@5.45 Andrew asks from a point of view of an ex MI6 chief, if Mossad didn’t know about the 7th of October attack. The ex MI6 run as far away from the question and started repeating the same lines set by Israeli occupation. Why can’t you give us an insight to whether the attacks were anticipated by Israel or if it was a surprise for everyone in the globe? It was an interesting question that could have add value to everyone’s knowledge from an ex MI6 Chief
This man claims that military occupation, colonization, and apartheid are political problems. Margaret Thatcher would have strongly disagreed with you during the Falklands crisis.
Why don’t anyone talk about the fact, that Israel fired from tanks and figterjets on their own civilians on the 7 october? WHO did actually massacre the most people?
Malaysia took 3 decades , almost 4 to fight gerilla insurgencies in Malaysian jungle. US has to walkout of Vietnam with tail down in the 70s. Fighting gerilla warfare with bombs is not enough. No bombs & fire power ever defeat any army that were unseen & has the staying power. PLEASE ASK THE BRITISH, AUSTRALIAN, NZ VET WHO HAD FOUGHT IN MALAYSIAN JUNGLE. SO SOLUTIONS IN PALESTINE HAS TO BE POLITICAL
hostages hostages hostages animals taking hostages , how is this even brought up with a straight face, but the 2.3 million hostages in gaza when willl they be released, i cant even begin to imagine the trauma the population of gaza is dealing with , its just very sad , and the media narative war has really got it twisted over the years , that truth has been distorted and twisted , we need truth , we need the Palestinians to be free
See this is the problem...half of Ukraine is Russian. I don't think we quite understand this. Not really. Every Ukrainian speaks Russian but only half speak Ukrainian...let that sink in.
This is what happens when you ignore the changes that happen under an empire. The Soviet Union resulted in thousands of Russians relocating. When an empire collapses you cannot just put back the old borders.
It's shocking how people can repeat without fail that "Israel has the right to defend itself" and completely, and I feel deliberately, ignore the fact that Palestinians have the right to resist this brutal occupation.
....totally agree....anti-Semitism is disgusting!
@@chatham43keep crying wolf coz noones listening.
@@Englsh129
Well chosen handle
It's a Colonial mindset. A Colonial occupier thinks it's perfectly fine to go and occupy another person's land/country, steal their property and resources. And if the owner resists then to massacre them, terrorise them into subduegation and to justify your own terrorism by labelling them as "terrorist", "savages" and "uncivilised" etc!
@@KHAN.S_Ali_Khan explain to me, why the Jordan army, with the help of Pakistan killed 25.000 Palestinians on September 1970. Explain to me, why the Middle East has a hands off approach with regards of Hamas/Israel war. Explain to me, why Middle East countries have always refused Palestinian refugees, although they pay lip service. Nobody in the Middle East cares about the Palestinians.
Nothing about the crime committed by Israel in the West Bank and other occupied territories. Why there's never talk about Have Palestinians the right to defend themselves?
because they have a colonialist and imperialistic point of view, and a group that opposes their views/will is considered a threat/terrorist organization and not for what they really are which is a resistance group who opposes their occupier.
@@cealy76 exactly right, and all the media and politicians need to be confronted with that truth you have elucidated.
@@cealy76 You omitted the fact that Hamas are Iran light , you approve of the Iranian regime ? Go watch " Whispered In Gaza
" and see what a bunch of shites they are.They aren't quite the Taliban, but they aren't THAT far off.
Sickening to hear the double standard
For a M16 chief he just cant seem to grt his head around the fact that occupied people will resist occupation. Long live Palestine
Interested in your view of the term occupation here. Do you think Israel should exist?
@@HecticGlenn Do you think Palestinian people have the right to live?
@@HecticGlenndo you think Nat C Germany should still exist? Or apartheid South Africa? Obviously they shouldn't. That's a pretty silly question.
@@HecticGlenn The answer lies in your question.
IF "occupied people will resist occupation"
and you answer with "Do you think Israel should exist?"
What follows logically is that you have internalized and accept that Israel's existence is conditional on the occupation of the Palestinian people.
And this already answers your question. NO! Israel does not have the right to exist. No state, whose existence is predicated on the oppression of others has the right to exist.
@@bugwandis 100% yes. Do you think Israel should exist or Israeli people have the right to live?
Are we surprise that a Former MI6 can't understand that a savagely occupied people will resist their atrocious ruthless occupier by any mean necessary. The Great Britain imperialism colonial mindset is still very much present it seems.
Occupiers? Pick up a history book. The first known mention of 'Israel' dates to 3200 BC. Palestine derives it's name from 'Palestina' the name given to the region by the conquering Romans in the first century; nearly 1300 years later.
When all else fails… blame the Iranians 🤥
the Iranians, the Russians, or the Chinese
And Trump and the Russians while they are at it!
8:28 Strange if he is former MI6 he doesn't realise that Netanyahu does NOT wants peace.
I think this interview took place a few weeks ago Israel does not have a right to defend itself against those they occupy. And it has been revealed that most of the casualties on Oct 7 were caused by Israel’s own military
How did Israel occupy Gaza on 06/10/23 ??
Not a single Israeli has been there for 18 years
Gaza had its own government, minster (including the vocal minister of health) hospitals, sandy beaches, amusement park, luxury hotels, zoo, palm trees
What exactly Israel did to deserve to be called occupying Hamas?
And why on earth would any person attacked not be allowed to defend themselves?
Where do YOU live?
Did YOUR family live there for 1000 generations?
Would you think that indigenous British people be justified attacking all people in Britain who have been here less than 300 generations?
Or even just arrived?
Please, do explain yourself, don't just say things you clearly don't understand
You are occupying Britain
By exactly the same logic
Also, by YOUR logic, you are occupying the USA and India too
@@JustAskingForAFriendOfAFriend To be fair, an occupation does not end until the occupier gives up their control of the area. You are still controling the prison even if you don't have any guards inside but hold the key to the door and guard the fence.
@hannacook6927 Sorry. Israel moved the settlements to the West Bank, which is illegal under international law. The occupation forces then redeployed to the edge of Gaza but controlled the land, air, and sea, making it the biggest concentration camp in the world. Occupiers cannot claim self-defence.
Has it been proven that the IDF killed most of those people?
The faces of these ignorant men is appalling. "We failed in Afghanistan because we went in militarily"? Maybe you failed because you weren't wanted in the area?! How he can speak so freely about so destructive matters, is how humanity lost its sense of sense. Then he speaks about how terrorism wants to breed terrorism, as if terrorism is an entity with a life of its own. Its people who react to the conditions they are put in, which in this case is oppression, humiliation, subjugation, extortion, slaughter, and the list goes on. Notice how he "others" people by saying: "Us and them". These are all attempts to create division where there is none. There is no us and them, there is only life!
He's also completely detached from what is actually going on in Afghanistan now and how it relates to Palestine. The Taliban had political aspirations, they quickly established peace for their people once the US invaders pulled out and many people in the region say that Afghanistan is the safest it has been in the last 3 decades. The reason for this is simple, Taliban acknowledged the people's concerns and immediately stationed troops to take down terrorists around the region such as the few ISIS and Al Qaeda cells that operate there, which is why you can hear the (seemingly) paradoxical sentence "It's safe in this area because Taliban fighters are never too far away"
Hamas serve a very similar purpose in Gaza, they actually talk to their population when making decisions, they operate with the specific intention of liberation and have listened to calls to revise their charter, enhance social programs etc.. They have high military spending given their budget, because Gaza needs to be viewed as a nation that is permanently at war since it is always under a military blockade, but should the reason for the military spending vanish, then Hamas will follow a similar (although not identical) path to the Taliban, becoming more political and less militarized as the danger subsides.
The only way forward, which these establishment guys never understand is to give Palestinians their full rights and a genuine chance at self determination through a government that actually has the ability to carry out all its duties, not like current Gaza where Hamas are technically a government body but have no control of water, air space, territorial waters or trade routes in and out of Gaza.
Yes, exactly blame everyone except the true culprits , Israel.
Israel is an occupying power so the question of right to defend themselves is not relevant. The relevant question is do the Palestinians have a right to resist the occupation.
yes,rigt. Only the question of the right of ANY occupied People to defend themselves has
been resolved long anough ago by international LAW.
A Brithish spy should be well aware of this!
How can this former chief lie without blinking? Is beyond me
They tell themselves the lie enough times until they believe it.
Andrew and ex head of the M16, they have no clue about a conflict older than themselves what a planks, the problem didn't start on the 07/10 wow I'm lost for word😮
Hilarious that an MI 6 officer can call anyone a terrorist, given what the Brits have been guilty of for centuries
I find it interesting that, taking this guy at face value, his points are cogent and logical, and more reasonable than a lot of others. However, considering he keeps talking about actions being taken in a political context, he seems devoid of any consideration of political history and the context where Palestine has been under economic siege for decades, along with frequent incursions by the IDF and settler Israeli's.
Why would he? His job is to protect British interests and to spread western control. He is not there to offer his moral opinion, only justify his immoral government.
Yes decades. But the first known mention of 'Israel' dates to 3200 BC.
@@taylormartyn And?
If this is the calibre of an MI6 agent - you have got to worry about the UK's security - he has no idea.
I remember one of interviews with Gaza children years ago, one of them was asked about what they wanted to be in the future, the answer was "Here, we die young"
I couldnt visualize my rage and anger towards Israel and the rest who support them,
I just couldn't get it why people can be so evil
"Democracy has won"
Do you call the British political system as a 21st C democracy😂
By definition, yes.
@@hobanagerik Sort of. I think that the intentional and often explicit misinformation provided to voters about the policies they're supposed to be voting for somewhat detracts from the reality of democracy.
Problem is you can be a democracy for your own people while destroying everything around you internationally. America is the best example currently. Because they treat citizens normally they use it to justify their actions abroad as a moral high ground while creating current and future problems like extremism and wars.
Another one of our failed establishment trying to explain the massive failure of our policy towards Russia.
Liberty and Justice for Palestine 🇵🇸
....Free Palestine 🇵🇸
...and anti-Semitism is despicable!
Free Ukraine from nato as well
Wow this guy is clueless despite of having such a high position!!! Very surprised!!
I was thinking the same thing.. he sounds like a Mossad agent.
Why are you surprised?
Lol, yes it's not surprising but disappointing nevertheless.
If they regard the lives of Palestinians we would have had a balance rationale reasoning toward peace.
Drapetomania was when the DSM (mental health bible) diagnosed slaves wanting to be free as mentally ill. We have in the west, a long history of condemning people who fight to cut the chains that have been placed on them by Colonial powers. Northern Ireland, South Africa, and now the Gazans.
No mention of the atrocities inflicted on the Palestinians from 1948 until 6 October 2023, or the implementation of the Hannibal Directive on 7 October.
Is it my imagination or is LBC becoming increasingly more pro Israel? Feels like it to me
...it's your imagination...or the waccy -baccy...😊
It’s owned by an extreme Zionist so yes it has always been pro apartheid Israel and seeking to ruin any pro-Palestinian voices (Corbyn etc) while pretending to be liberal - pretty gross tbh
Absolutely is not your imagination. I have listened and cringed at the blatant bias by especially Nick ferrari Ian Dale and Sheilgh Fogarty on this Conflict .
TVTalk & GB 'News' we all should be aware is just as bad!! On TalkTV recently, both Julia Hartley-Brewer & Vanessa Feltz were allowed to continue to spout the lie about 'beheaded babies' on October the 7th attack!
Oh yes. 100%
Prime Minister Netanyahu and the moral question.
After watching film footage of the relentless and indiscriminate bombing of Gaza, he suddenly exclaimed: “ARE WE BEASTS? ARE WE TAKING THIS TOO FAR?”
(Actually, it was Winston Churchill, who said this, after the bombing of German cities in 1943.)
It still carried on...
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
...but you'd have to find it on the map first...😂😂😂
@@chatham43do ask the same of people about Israel? If not, why not?
Also don't presume everyone's as ignorant as you and your peers.
@@chatham43show me Israel on a map from before 1930.
I would say the best part of this whole thing is referencing this mans experience fighting terrorism. BRO.... the US and NATO FAILED in Iraq and Afghanistan. What could he teach us? how to not get the job done correctly?
NATO were not in Iraq!
France said it was nothing to do with 9/11. The Bush family had old scores to settle.
@@johnrussell3961 US, UK, Australia and Poland all went
@@BOZ_11 . It was described as a coalition of the willing. It was not a nato response to 9/11.
They made up a barmy excuse about finding WMD.
@@johnrussell3961 True enough, but they didn't even need to lie, since nobody believed the WMD story, especially since UN weapons inspectors categorically told them there are no WMD's (Hanz Blix, the chief inspector, made it clear to the press, before the war)
He was part of the establishment and no surprise that he is repeating the argument that is in line with the Israel objectives..still a subordinate even after he left the office
😂 the British and the allies created this mess as they did in India
Why is Britain so OCD about China? Chinese news doesn't endlessly discuss it's relationship with the West. The Chinese people concentrate on working hard instead of analysing how great they are and how much of a threat Britain is.
Because daddy Murica says we have to be scared and bolster our defences with £££ that goes to weapons manufacturers. Remember Americas boogymen are our boogymen.
hey I lived in China and everyone was obsessed with the west as their enemy
Interesting turn of phrase used ... appalling human tragedy of hostages ... what about all the people, many women and children, held by Israel without trial for indefinite periods? How is that not hostage taking?
And regarding Oct 7, people that are brutally occupied in a concentration camp, "lawn mowed" with impunity from time to time, living in an apartheid state with their land confiscated by mostly white colonial settlers, and backed by the superpowers of the time, blocking any access to international courts through vetos, how do you propose they get their rights? Are they just meant to sit in the corner and just take it?
Very important points there that clearly Israel couldn't care about.
How is that a helpful way to address things?
Don't you think it is alienating and blocks any way for someone who wants to find a middle ground to speak to you?
yea, that's why they are spending million of tv ads, trying to buy support of social media influencers.
Very important points for who?
...and you're not even anti-Semitic...😊
Didn't some U.S. Senator just offer someone? $20 MILLION to run against the Palestinian Representative?!
So very naive aren't you?!
the occupier can’t complain about the resistance
Mr. Younger tries to put a positive spin on the disastrous war (for the Ukraine). He dutifully is repeating all the US centric talking points. He is therefore a reliable errand boy for the US Empire.
And you for Putin.
@@kevinskiles2033 Contrary to your opnion I am no fan of the dictator called Putin. But it seems you have no idea what kind of games are actually being played by the US, EU and the UK in Eastern Europe.
@@willemgrooters4958
Actually, I do. That's why I said what I did.
Free Palestine!
...but you'll need to find it on the map first...😂
@@chatham43yeah I'm sure that you could find ulster, well a bit of it, when they stole it they left the other 3 county's behind.
@@chatham43not everyone has your geographical ignorance. 😂
@@chatham43 🥱🤦🏽♂️🥴
Mossad and Shin Bet must have people with the same ability to understand terrorism as Sir Alex. That means the Israelis know they are following the Hamas playbook and are happy to do so. My guess would be that they want to force Egypt to take responsibility for Gaza while they seal themselves off from it and make sure security of the border is never neglected again.
You mean they want to ethnically cleanse Gaza an then move their people in after?
His understanding of the situation is beyond abysmal. Trying to eliminate Hamas using strategies that were employed against ISIS would never work because the two groups are nothing alike. The only way you can compare the two is if you have zero understanding (or even sub-zero understanding) of human nature and the politics of the Middle East
These people were considered terrorists and barbarians.
Joan of arc
Nelson Mandela - ANC
Nat turner
Mordechai Anielewicz - brutal Jewish resistance
What do these people have in common with hamas and resistance in Palestine??
They all did the same thing to fight Against occupation and apartheid. They are celebrated and Joan of arc is now a saint.
You oppress someone enough. Things will pop.
The brutality like necklacing by the ANC was what got them their freedom. It was brutal.
This is the Head of the MI6, he speaks from the UK Government heart, He has no sympathathy for the plight of the Palestinians and the 75 year occupation, or the bombardment claiming 15,000 people lives, almost 6000 children lives. He cannot see the underlying cause, so it is impossible for him to see a fix. as a former head of Intelligence??. He is basically a Governement agent, Told to tow the line with the superiors ordering him. He is a Soldier following orders. Disappointing.
I can't bear these people....
Why are people like Marr allowed to smear populist movements as far right this has to stop
Will Netanyahu get tried for war crimes against the gasa
How does "having the right to defend yourself" get confused with "failed miserably to defend themselves"
Why are they petrified to stop any open debate on this most horrific of issues
What are they hiding?
It baffles me
He is one sided unbelievable
The biggesy bully is at the same time the Biggest crybaby and the saddest person in the world. What a disgusting principal to live by
Why can’t he speak about the history that most certainly contributed and led to Oct 7th? The British are deliberately ignoring their historical contribution to this land grab stealing from Palestine. If they were genuine then they’d have allowed the Scots and the Welsh to devolve. Calling out hypocrisy of the situation is an evaluation of reality and not radicalisation.
Andrew Marr: “As a security guy, were you surprised by the fact that Mossad apparently did not know what was going to happen?”
Sir Alex totally dodges the question.
Implication: Yes, he was surprised that Mossad was apparently not aware.
Alternative implication: 🤔
Reality-detachment or gross-misunderstanding at UK's top-level is immensely disturbing - especially in its assessment of Ukraine and the Russian Federation. For the start of that conflict, examine AZOV's 2014 rampage through Mariupol.
If Ukraine had honoured the Minsk Agreement none of this would of happened.
England! The original genociders!
A thoughtful and thought provoking interview. His comments on Gaza and particularly Israel buying in to the Hamas script have been mentioned by other commentators, but still deserve to be repeated. Netanyahu's government has either fallen for the bait because emotion has taken over or they have decided to play along because it suits their political purpose, particularly Natenyahu. I would incline to the latter.
Can we please start talking about the savagery, brutality and inhumanity of the occupation. JUST 56 YEARS. If you think checkpoints, second class citizenship of non Jews. Land grabs, lack of peace. The unconditional support of US, UK and EU. Condemn Israel. Condemn the occupation.
Can I have some of what this guy is smoking? Or maybe some cool aid? I am lost for words.
Hmmmn... Phase II??? Almost sounds like they might have a plan for something. Smells a bit gassy to me...
This guy is part of the problem. He is too experienced to not have the facts and what is really going on in Palestine as a whole and Gaza in particular.
The MI5 guy sounds like someone doesn't turn on the bathroom fan when he does doo-doo because he believes it's fragrant.
I can't help but wonder; how many of the returned Palistinians would still be alive after a couple of weeks in Gaza?
Interesting that there was mention of China, Russia and Iran but not a word with regards to Saudi Arabia’s behaviour ?
controls oil and has the ability to control your life
Sir Alex knows he likes that oil money so he keeps quiet
Just the usual propaganda, Saudi are not criticised because they are considered allies by the American so the UK as always follows the same political line.
Russia has won the war. Ukraine doesn't have enough troops, weapons are ammo.Most the professional soldiers that caught Russia by surprise have been killed or injured. The average military age is now 40. It's just a matter of when Ukraine will start negotiating peace and how many more Ukrainians will die before that happens.
That's the reality. Our show of support was superficial and now Ukraine are essentially alone.
I know all this because my girlfriend's family are from one of the annexed areas, we speak to people back home daily. The Ukrainians are broken, they will never surrender, but at this point they can't make any progress. They will dig in as fighting grinds to a halt over winter and the Russians will target infrastructure like power to make life miserable for Ukrainians.
Sick sick sick
This man lives on his knees
Colonialist mentality. Shameless posturing.
One day it would be nice to hear some one in mainstream say first Palestinians + something positive about them and for them
Outside the EU the only testing that will take place for the UK will involve KY gel and serious pain.
They cry out in pain as they strike you. Wow! History sure does rhyme even if it does not repeat.
Listen to The Duran instead of this drivel
Wow! MI6 propaganda at its best. What the LBC has become.
nightmares are made by people with dreams, this man is a fool.
a nice balanced interview
but I should also point out...
israel was a terrorist state...britain fought the jewish settlers for many years before 1948...indeed 338 british soldiers were murdered by jewish terrorists between 1945 and 1948...their terrorists went on to form the likud party
it seem the UK security forces have forgotten the basic principle that you have no permanent friends, every country is more a marriage of convenience at any point in time...israel is not our friend...they certainly stir up anti british sentiment in countries like iran to push britain closer to this marriage of convenience...for their own benefit
it should also be noted that aggressive action isn't just about bombs and bullets, its also about the infiltration of our political class and media...which is now so compromised it pushes israeli propaganda at every opportunity
we all know about hot wars, many know about the cold war...but israel has been undermining british sovereignty for many decades with their war of influence peddling AKA bribing our politicians
If we are saying what Israel is doing is a 'disproportionate response' then why aren't we saying Hamas's response to occupation was also simply 'disproportionate'.
Language matters and the pro-israelis know exactly how to twist the narrative!
Nothing is disproportionate for people who engage in "mown the lawn" in Gaza.
Military industry is celebrating Xmas everyday these days.
I'm dumbstruck by what Younger said. IDF massacres of unarmed Palestinian is "act of self-defense". This guy can't tell right from wrong.
Occupation doesn't have the right to defend itself
What about all the suffering of people who had to take the brunt of Ukraine's proxy war while the instigators sit in comfortable places.
He didn't mention all the gas and miinerals in Ukraine.
High calibre discourse.
The act on Oct 7 was a response to the occupation. Do they believe it was a disproportionate response by Hamas?
@5.45 Andrew asks from a point of view of an ex MI6 chief, if Mossad didn’t know about the 7th of October attack. The ex MI6 run as far away from the question and started repeating the same lines set by Israeli occupation. Why can’t you give us an insight to whether the attacks were anticipated by Israel or if it was a surprise for everyone in the globe? It was an interesting question that could have add value to everyone’s knowledge from an ex MI6 Chief
Everyone says that Israel has the right to defend itself, so would we also say that the Nazis also had the right to defend themselves?
Really? "Appalling" and "massacre" only apply to the action of one side?
Who is "we"? The governments?
This man claims that military occupation, colonization, and apartheid are political problems. Margaret Thatcher would have strongly disagreed with you during the Falklands crisis.
He's what's wrong with the world..
So was he the head before Judy Dench took the role?
two intelligent people talking nonsense
Why dont you criticise hamas’ tactics
Why don’t anyone talk about the fact, that Israel fired from tanks and figterjets on their own civilians on the 7 october?
WHO did actually massacre the most people?
Thankyou
‘I’m brought up in the covert world’ .... does that go some way to explain his bizarre disconnect from reality ?
The Russia Ukraine war could have ended if Ukraine had agreed not join NATO!!! We seem to be in forever war.
Malaysia took 3 decades , almost 4 to fight gerilla insurgencies in Malaysian jungle. US has to walkout of Vietnam with tail down in the 70s. Fighting gerilla warfare with bombs is not enough. No bombs & fire power ever defeat any army that were unseen & has the staying power. PLEASE ASK THE BRITISH, AUSTRALIAN, NZ VET WHO HAD FOUGHT IN MALAYSIAN JUNGLE. SO SOLUTIONS IN PALESTINE HAS TO BE POLITICAL
Mi6 mi5 aren't there to portect the citizens of this country there to protect the realm clear and simple
Palestinians have a right to self defense they are occupied!!!
This guy is delusional Russia has won 😂
hostages hostages hostages animals taking hostages , how is this even brought up with a straight face, but the 2.3 million hostages in gaza when willl they be released, i cant even begin to imagine the trauma the population of gaza is dealing with , its just very sad , and the media narative war has really got it twisted over the years , that truth has been distorted and twisted , we need truth , we need the Palestinians to be free
Repeat after me : ' palestinians have a right to defend themselves against the OCCUPIERS '
See this is the problem...half of Ukraine is Russian. I don't think we quite understand this. Not really. Every Ukrainian speaks Russian but only half speak Ukrainian...let that sink in.
This is what happens when you ignore the changes that happen under an empire. The Soviet Union resulted in thousands of Russians relocating. When an empire collapses you cannot just put back the old borders.
Two unelected men supporting two wars and misinforming listeners. A normal day on British radio.
Palestine has a right to defend itself.
Yeah but what about 😮