It's pronounced Dan Yoob. The Danube is the largest river in Europe, and very important throughout history. It marked the border between the Roman empire and German tribes for centuries.
Actually the most powerful Holy Roman Emperor, Charles V, was born in modern-day Belgium and his first language was french. So it's ok to speak french as the HRE. He famously said "I speak spanish to God, french to men, italian to women and german to my horse"
A stone wall in the river crossing and then some zhuch chu on top of the wall would have been nice. Then pull some villagers to repair the wall, instead of pulling them to kill the rams and they would have lived longer. But it's a really nice map.
@@Sids1192 Yeah. But that's time won for the chinese player. I feel like a 100 stone wall would have been more effective than pulling 15-20 villagers to then have half of them dying, especially when the HRE player is building another ram behind all this.
Yeah. An earlier wall basically anywhere would have held the game for longer, perhaps giving time to transition into song dinasty to get the eco advantage back. But not going for water hurt the food supply so bad it was basically not possible. Rest in pepperoni.
6:30 Wouldn't an L shape be a better wall? You'd be able to put a gate in for yourself easier at least. If you can put towers in the shallow water, you can defend the forward wall, then build a stone wall across the top of the L (so now it's a [ shape) and you can control the choke point from a more secure position. It seems drawing a cross through the center doesn't give you any benefit compared to the people on the other side of the river.
I might be missing something but I'm surprised that not so many players are using the stone walls for that extra defense. They aren't that expensive and can put them down pretty fast in the early/mid game. If the Chinese player had done this close to the river he would had been able to stand much longer and buy him some time I think.
i think th term is called 'strike while the iron is hot'. i remember watching drongo when he was at like 7k subscribers, i think he realizes that with new succesful rts hype this is the time to go balls deep on content. happy for the man
I think the HRE is stronger this patch than before, so it's weird to say they were nerfed. There was a tiny balance change that was a nerf, but the buffs to the Men at Arms and Prelates from the bug fixes will have a much bigger effect I think. Also, I if the meta starts to shift towards Men at Arms or Fast Castle or Fast Imp, those will all play into HRE's strengths. There is no way that HRE is lower on the tier list than it was last patch.
@@patricity9355 No, the prelate bug was fixed. There seems to be a different circumstance that causes the prelate to bug that hasn't been reproduced yet, and happens rarely. But for all intents and purposes, the prelate is MUCH more reliable now, and can be considered a "buff"
Ironically, they wouldn't take reduced damage since they're already taking only 1 damage/hit from the high armour, you can't go lower than 1 damage/hit. But you are correct that he could have followed into the gatehouse since he could just go around the small wall.
The stone wall with the stone tower outcropping won't work (that great) anymore. Rams went from 15 ranged armor to 30 Springalds do ranged dmg, not siege ^^ So a tower would only do 60-30+20 (bonus dmg vs siege) 50 dmg. That to 700 hp 14 shots. That's a lot of shots... you'd be better off focussing the units around it and torching it. It's a bit messy for china now, but maybe scouts vs the rams and to tank the MAA while the Zhuge shoot. And well..I am not a proponent of china 2TC in most matchups. You can mirror your opponents, but you're better off going 1TC emergency military into castle age in most cases. Armor and (or) rams are such an issue for china.
I think it went up to 30 armour. Still, 24 shots to destroy a ram takes a while, even 8 take 50 sec if you throw down 3 stone towers or outposts with springalds - which requires you to reach Castle Age first, as well. That's as long as a single Zhuge Nu takes to kill a MAA, lol. 31 torches from 10 scouts or horsemen will take it down in about 6 seconds after reaching the ram. The scouts cost half as much, but the horsemen survive 32 instead of 22 archer shots each and deal 11 times the damage against the archers, so they're useful against both rams and archers (and not too terrible against MAAs). I'd probably go with a mix of scouts and horsemen. The Zhuge Nu aren't a great choice against neither rams nor MAAs of course, but then again nothing properly counters MAAs in Age II. Still need a fast Castle for that. I'd still produce Zhuge Nu if my enemy started mixing in spears against my cav.
@@Muenni my man I mean the stone wall outcrop towers! You get those in fuedal. Those standard come with a springald. Those cost 200 stone and you'll be paying 45 stone for a 3 stone wall segment to fit that one tower. But yea, scouting and response not great in this game. Zhuge are also slower than archers, but have better dps. In a pinch you can fight a group of MAA's with an archerball 2 - 3x MAA size fairly well. As well as zhuge downright blasting down archers (mind the shirter range and slower msp on zhuge though). Horsemen got nerfed kinda hard...120 resources same as MAA. I'd almost prefer hand cannon towers. But in the end you should try not to get into this situation! Scout scout scout. 5MAA coming at you? Get 10 - 15 archers or 10 zhuge and press them back. Castle asap on the back of it!
@@SamuraiHonor Yeah, I was confused yesterday and somehow thought both outposts with springalds and stone towers with the included springalds came in Age III. Sorry for that!
Fun Fact the Danube is a long river passing through Germany, Austria, Hungary, and Romania ending in the black sea...so Wallachia, Serbia, Hungary confirmed?
The Donau, the German name of Danube, is the main river of Austria, which was also part of the HRE and later the main crown-lands of Kings and Emperors of Habsburg. The austrian parts of Danube are swampy and flat, a very warm reagion, ideal for wine, fruits and mediterran products like almonds and safran. If you are interested in that specific german culture, look for "Wachau", an UNESCO area in lower-austria, cities like "Melk" and "Krems".
"Danube" changes its name according to the countries it passes through. Dunarea (Romania), Dunav (Croatia), Duna (Hungary), Dunau (Austria)... and so on. Your pronunciation is correct, as per the English name for the river, that holds also for the French.
Hey Aussie, I love your content! I was wondering if you could switch to res/min when casting? I know you do it occasionally, but I'm always amazed by how efficient these players are!
I dont like they remove fish spot from the mini map. Its like we have to find directly the fish spot. Back then i can just scout the rivers without directly look at it
Yea ignoring the fish on this map was a huge mistake, it was basically free food that he was severely lacking. Also, it pains me to see people neglecting the boars so frequently, had he sent 8 vills down to make a mill on that bottom left boar, that 2k food gathers really fast.. especially with survival techniques. You could even send an official down too for bonus food, or it was highly unlikely cone would’ve gone down there to stop it. fish plus a boar would’ve changed reds game completely.
Nothing really changed for the chins. Zhuge nu meme unit is cheaper, but got nerfed as well. It’s just an archer side grade except it costs gold as well. Too bad they still can’t deal with early armor which was their main problem, so they’ll keep getting dumpstered in age 2 by above avg iq players.
How the heck do I beat the campaign where you are French defending the waves of attack. The one where there are villages spread around outside of walls and you have to call them in.
You have to immediately get your eco upgrades and boom during the grace period so you can afford royal knights and mangonels. You have a landmark that produces cheap pavise boys to support against M2A
I dont understand why all these pro players are always so hesitant to use walls. If i were china i would have walled up the crossing before the first raid even came.
Abba S tier, best ranged units now and camels get indestructible in age 4 :-) infinite armor with camel barding when researched with a lot of blacksmiths. What is happening Drongo? :-) Everything infinite
@@Muenni he meant the stone tower you place in wall, not an outpost. Though, yea ram ranged armor up, and springalds deal ranged, not siege. So its not so good anymore.
The new map is awesome but it's still so incredibly frustrating to watch ram rushes, tbqh. The "nerfs" didn't do shit to put an end to this dumb and braindead strategy and 80% of games are just decided by whoever manages to build rams and rush first / more effectively. There's basically 0 counterplay to it because the only counterplay is pulling villagers to stop those rams which in turn then get murdered. So the person who has the rams ALWAYS wins the trade. It's a really sad thing to see and I really hope that they continue to nerf those rams (and actually nerf them, not just.. pseudo-nerf.)
It wasn't an issue for me in a games I played or watched. If you have a military lead and invest in the rams, then you should be able to counter someone who is falling that far behind. Here China invested in two landmarks, and two TCs...while the opponent was going for early aggression. He could have done a better job of scouting, been more flexible with his build order, or built some melee units to counter the rams.
Can you explain things in more detail please. i enjoy watching you i just wish you would explain why you should or shouldnt do the things your talking about
@@ricardoraventos1160 The game is set during the age of colonization. The accepted dates for this is usually from 1492 to around 1870. I think you might be confused about which game the Mexico DLC is for: it is for aoe3 not 4.
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It's pronounced Dan Yoob. The Danube is the largest river in Europe, and very important throughout history. It marked the border between the Roman empire and German tribes for centuries.
Thankyou
In German it's Donau. Sorry nobody asked :D
The Trajan bridge incident
Please use google translator
in french it's Danube just like he pronounced it the firs time
My man is a great RTS announcer. I'd watch this on ESPN
Propagandacast does a great RTS cast of Company of Heros 2, every day!!!
He really is
Actually the most powerful Holy Roman Emperor, Charles V, was born in modern-day Belgium and his first language was french. So it's ok to speak french as the HRE.
He famously said "I speak spanish to God, french to men, italian to women and german to my horse"
He quit his job to do this full time. Mad respect for the hustle he has.
How u know. What he did before?
A stone wall in the river crossing and then some zhuch chu on top of the wall would have been nice. Then pull some villagers to repair the wall, instead of pulling them to kill the rams and they would have lived longer.
But it's a really nice map.
At least until the HRE player takes advantage of their water control and simply transports their army around that wall.
@@Sids1192 Yeah. But that's time won for the chinese player. I feel like a 100 stone wall would have been more effective than pulling 15-20 villagers to then have half of them dying, especially when the HRE player is building another ram behind all this.
Yeah. An earlier wall basically anywhere would have held the game for longer, perhaps giving time to transition into song dinasty to get the eco advantage back.
But not going for water hurt the food supply so bad it was basically not possible. Rest in pepperoni.
6:30 Wouldn't an L shape be a better wall? You'd be able to put a gate in for yourself easier at least. If you can put towers in the shallow water, you can defend the forward wall, then build a stone wall across the top of the L (so now it's a [ shape) and you can control the choke point from a more secure position.
It seems drawing a cross through the center doesn't give you any benefit compared to the people on the other side of the river.
Amazing idea, got test that while putting Zhuge Nu on top
I might be missing something but I'm surprised that not so many players are using the stone walls for that extra defense. They aren't that expensive and can put them down pretty fast in the early/mid game. If the Chinese player had done this close to the river he would had been able to stand much longer and buy him some time I think.
This map looks so fun now. You can boom and have tower wars. Screw bridges Fjords are my new best friend now.
My man, how are you creating these videos so quickly?
Pss.pss. inside information. He's got an oompa loompa army of editors
No really. This is an insane amount of content to be pumping out. Love it though.
i think th term is called 'strike while the iron is hot'. i remember watching drongo when he was at like 7k subscribers, i think he realizes that with new succesful rts hype this is the time to go balls deep on content. happy for the man
@@northee8314 What editing? He's just commenting on already existing video material.
I mean no offense but he is simply clipping his stream and making a super basic thumbnail with a few arrows
I think the HRE is stronger this patch than before, so it's weird to say they were nerfed. There was a tiny balance change that was a nerf, but the buffs to the Men at Arms and Prelates from the bug fixes will have a much bigger effect I think. Also, I if the meta starts to shift towards Men at Arms or Fast Castle or Fast Imp, those will all play into HRE's strengths. There is no way that HRE is lower on the tier list than it was last patch.
they fixed the stacking of damage on men at arms but took away the apparently unintended +15 health so its more of a trade off then buff or nerf
@@edsalmon6319 the university infantry upgrade buffed from 10% to 20% tho
Except they didn't even fix the prelate ...
yeah, fixing bugs straight up buffed HRE (which they should be)... And the infantry univ tech favors HRE most.
@@patricity9355 No, the prelate bug was fixed. There seems to be a different circumstance that causes the prelate to bug that hasn't been reproduced yet, and happens rarely. But for all intents and purposes, the prelate is MUCH more reliable now, and can be considered a "buff"
0:39 Danywb
That's the right pronunciation
17:13 Can't the MAAs just follow the Zhuge Nu onto the wall through the gatehouse? And then they'd actually take reduced damage even!
Ironically, they wouldn't take reduced damage since they're already taking only 1 damage/hit from the high armour, you can't go lower than 1 damage/hit. But you are correct that he could have followed into the gatehouse since he could just go around the small wall.
@@Gaudron-fp4nc The gate was the wrong way around so they could have walked up from the front even
14:09 poor deer!
nice catch!
The stone wall with the stone tower outcropping won't work (that great) anymore.
Rams went from 15 ranged armor to 30
Springalds do ranged dmg, not siege ^^ So a tower would only do 60-30+20 (bonus dmg vs siege) 50 dmg.
That to 700 hp 14 shots. That's a lot of shots... you'd be better off focussing the units around it and torching it.
It's a bit messy for china now, but maybe scouts vs the rams and to tank the MAA while the Zhuge shoot.
And well..I am not a proponent of china 2TC in most matchups. You can mirror your opponents, but you're better off going 1TC emergency military into castle age in most cases. Armor and (or) rams are such an issue for china.
I think it went up to 30 armour. Still, 24 shots to destroy a ram takes a while, even 8 take 50 sec if you throw down 3 stone towers or outposts with springalds - which requires you to reach Castle Age first, as well. That's as long as a single Zhuge Nu takes to kill a MAA, lol.
31 torches from 10 scouts or horsemen will take it down in about 6 seconds after reaching the ram. The scouts cost half as much, but the horsemen survive 32 instead of 22 archer shots each and deal 11 times the damage against the archers, so they're useful against both rams and archers (and not too terrible against MAAs). I'd probably go with a mix of scouts and horsemen.
The Zhuge Nu aren't a great choice against neither rams nor MAAs of course, but then again nothing properly counters MAAs in Age II. Still need a fast Castle for that. I'd still produce Zhuge Nu if my enemy started mixing in spears against my cav.
@@Muenni op got their math right, factoring in springald bonus damage to seige. Otherwise I like your take 👍
@@Muenni my man I mean the stone wall outcrop towers! You get those in fuedal. Those standard come with a springald. Those cost 200 stone and you'll be paying 45 stone for a 3 stone wall segment to fit that one tower.
But yea, scouting and response not great in this game.
Zhuge are also slower than archers, but have better dps. In a pinch you can fight a group of MAA's with an archerball 2 - 3x MAA size fairly well. As well as zhuge downright blasting down archers (mind the shirter range and slower msp on zhuge though).
Horsemen got nerfed kinda hard...120 resources same as MAA. I'd almost prefer hand cannon towers.
But in the end you should try not to get into this situation! Scout scout scout. 5MAA coming at you? Get 10 - 15 archers or 10 zhuge and press them back. Castle asap on the back of it!
@@calebwilliams586 Does that apply to emplacements?
@@SamuraiHonor Yeah, I was confused yesterday and somehow thought both outposts with springalds and stone towers with the included springalds came in Age III. Sorry for that!
HRE for the win! Beside, the Danube is the main river of Austria, called Donau in German. Wonderful region for a holiday!
I like how he said 🤣🤣
"you've got no way out of this neptune, YOu Crazy"
Aussie Drongo, Always the Best Commentary.
i felt like the game was decided the moment one player ignored water
A HRE victory in a drongo video what a rare site.
Fun Fact the Danube is a long river passing through Germany, Austria, Hungary, and Romania ending in the black sea...so Wallachia, Serbia, Hungary confirmed?
Is Zhuge Nu really worth in this situation tho? Changing units would be the first thing I'd do after that first wave of man-at-arms..
I'd say in early game small numbers
I don't know if it's the same spelling, but one of the main rivers in Germany is pronounce Dan-Yube. May help map description if relevant?
The Donau, the German name of Danube, is the main river of Austria, which was also part of the HRE and later the main crown-lands of Kings and Emperors of Habsburg. The austrian parts of Danube are swampy and flat, a very warm reagion, ideal for wine, fruits and mediterran products like almonds and safran. If you are interested in that specific german culture, look for "Wachau", an UNESCO area in lower-austria, cities like "Melk" and "Krems".
I believe it's pronounced "Da nyoob" like the river Danube
the map is named after the river, so yea
Doesn't build boats to farm then end the game with 2k wood banked... taking notes here.
"Danube" changes its name according to the countries it passes through. Dunarea (Romania), Dunav (Croatia), Duna (Hungary), Dunau (Austria)... and so on. Your pronunciation is correct, as per the English name for the river, that holds also for the French.
"Da noob" - even the map name is calling you out, ouch!
Danube = dan yoob
Dan-oob? Dan-oobay? Ouch. Welcome to 2021.
The pronunciation of the river is dan-yoob
I love to see HRE win.
They were already one of the weakest civs(if not the weakest). And got nerved so hard. But the Empire prevails !
His name is Neptune and he doesn't like water? Well that's ironic.
Played this map few times yesterday really liked it
Hey Aussie, I love your content! I was wondering if you could switch to res/min when casting? I know you do it occasionally, but I'm always amazed by how efficient these players are!
I like how the arrows in the thumbnail point at nothing lol
They point at the fish ;)
In the Balkans, its pronounce Dunav. B is pronounced as a V
I dont like they remove fish spot from the mini map. Its like we have to find directly the fish spot. Back then i can just scout the rivers without directly look at it
It's pronounced Dan-yoob.
He's trolling, he made the same joke in another vid and I made the same comment.
It's *DONAU* !!!
...barbarians.
@@Cainite Nah nah, it's Danyoobay, like Harambe.
its pronounced Do-nau
@@prosee7770 Nah, it's Da-noob mate. Get it, mispronouncing things is funny.
DANUBE - SANDSTORM
Is it just me or did the quality of the video increase a lot? watching in 1080p and I have to say, it looks so damn sharp
His game is now in 4k
Yea ignoring the fish on this map was a huge mistake, it was basically free food that he was severely lacking. Also, it pains me to see people neglecting the boars so frequently, had he sent 8 vills down to make a mill on that bottom left boar, that 2k food gathers really fast.. especially with survival techniques. You could even send an official down too for bonus food, or it was highly unlikely cone would’ve gone down there to stop it. fish plus a boar would’ve changed reds game completely.
River should be wider to avoid cannon fire
your second pronunciation of danube is correct. it sounds like danyoob
You call it Danube, but the map’s real name is pants
Kinda like DARE-TUBE since you're Australian, except the T is an N.
"...If I'm Mongols I'm gonna WALL this off..." ;)
@Aussie_Drongo Can you put the map seeds in the description here above ? thanks for the great vids man, keep it up!
It’s pronounced “Dan-Yoob”
Looks like king of the hill map
Please show the military and income per minute tab when u are commenting :P
All native nations call the river doonai or donai
Danube = Dan yoob. its an actual river
Any1 know neptune is streaming or not?
Danube is produced: dan-yoob
I just had to look it up myself, and apparently, it's pronounced DAN-yoob :)
Nothing really changed for the chins. Zhuge nu meme unit is cheaper, but got nerfed as well. It’s just an archer side grade except it costs gold as well. Too bad they still can’t deal with early armor which was their main problem, so they’ll keep getting dumpstered in age 2 by above avg iq players.
nuh drongo.... you were right all along. its Dan-nu-bey
How the heck do I beat the campaign where you are French defending the waves of attack. The one where there are villages spread around outside of walls and you have to call them in.
You have to immediately get your eco upgrades and boom during the grace period so you can afford royal knights and mangonels. You have a landmark that produces cheap pavise boys to support against M2A
Cant believe they ruined Delhi, unacceptable.
Please more abbasid content, sadly there's none
Let me help you with name its like name Do-nau Osterreich say it with eaten u at end, and we say it Dona-va. Hope it help keep up the good work.
How about Dohnow, that'd be the German pronunciation ;)
How is HRE nerfed??
Dat Gate fail. LMAO
20 seconds into the video I'm like wtf you talking about seriously
Danube? Just call it Dany.
We need more fish! Give us the salmon!
I dont understand why all these pro players are always so hesitant to use walls. If i were china i would have walled up the crossing before the first raid even came.
Transport ships could have easily passes!
Abba S tier, best ranged units now and camels get indestructible in age 4 :-) infinite armor with camel barding when researched with a lot of blacksmiths.
What is happening Drongo? :-) Everything infinite
danube is a river in europe my guy
the chinese player is not thinking outside the box even if chinese civ is bad at fishing he should have still fish some and put some walls up early!
I think it’s pronounced da-noob-aye River. That’s how I heard some dude on YT say it.
Nice tipp with the stone tower
But it's Castle Age and was effectively slightly nerfed against rams!
@@Muenni he meant the stone tower you place in wall, not an outpost.
Though, yea ram ranged armor up, and springalds deal ranged, not siege. So its not so good anymore.
@@SamuraiHonor Yeah, sorry about the outpost/stone tower age confusion.
Why in the world is the river shaped like that???
why not
@@shiinondogewalker2809 I don't know. It just seems odd to me.
It's pronounced the Great Berryo Riff
Anyone else not having their custom games stats saved at the end ??? So annoying
Drongo Dongo Tooo Strongo.
Captain contradictory
Sounds like
da·nyoob
The map is still tiny though
Dan Yoob
hre parade push has promise
its Donau in german, i dont get the english translation, makes no sense to me
I can see Chukonu vs mongols which have a lot of light armor early on, but vs these early armored factions? Springald rush is the only way to hold.
DAN-YOOB
Google translation can help with pronunciation.
HRE is pretty good, soon maa will be the main meta
The new map is awesome but it's still so incredibly frustrating to watch ram rushes, tbqh.
The "nerfs" didn't do shit to put an end to this dumb and braindead strategy and 80% of games are just decided by whoever manages to build rams and rush first / more effectively. There's basically 0 counterplay to it because the only counterplay is pulling villagers to stop those rams which in turn then get murdered. So the person who has the rams ALWAYS wins the trade. It's a really sad thing to see and I really hope that they continue to nerf those rams (and actually nerf them, not just.. pseudo-nerf.)
It wasn't an issue for me in a games I played or watched. If you have a military lead and invest in the rams, then you should be able to counter someone who is falling that far behind. Here China invested in two landmarks, and two TCs...while the opponent was going for early aggression. He could have done a better job of scouting, been more flexible with his build order, or built some melee units to counter the rams.
HRE in reality has been buffed due to the bug fixes IMO
Hey Aussie! D A N U B E ! Gosh!
Too much fish I think. Probably half or 1/3 would be nice. Water is not the best/most interesting gameplay in AoE4
DA NOOB
Danube -> Dan yoob
"Im playing at 4K".. flexing huh?
No drongo you still don’t pronounce it properly. Dan-yoob. It’s only the longest river in Western Europe so really quite unknown and unimportant, lol
I guess you could say you are "DA NOOB" at pronunciation of stuff! ha ha ha ha haaaa
dan yoob
Say all important or heich p one more godam time
Can you explain things in more detail please. i enjoy watching you i just wish you would explain why you should or shouldnt do the things your talking about
mongol cant wall
Do you know anything about italians? Such a shame that we still dont have them. We got Mexico instead that destroys the realism of the game...
How does Mexico destroy the realism??
@@JamminPanda Because of the Aztec Empire, they were Mexico before the foundation of Mexico as a state in 1810. It makes no sense
@@ricardoraventos1160 The game is set during the age of colonization. The accepted dates for this is usually from 1492 to around 1870. I think you might be confused about which game the Mexico DLC is for: it is for aoe3 not 4.
Sry I was talking about aoe 3
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