Thank you for posting this. Ive been watching alot of these racing history vids lately , and they are fantastic. We are so lucky to have all this so easily accessible to us, thanks to folks like yourself
even tho these films are of low quality and B/W they have an endearing quality to them..and a rare chance to have a look at our past..to say they are cool is an understatement..plz post more..new sub..
My first car to drive was 1957 Ford Country Squire my mother’s car, big 351 ci v8 I was 14, I was the man of the house. Changed the oil, spark plugs I been a ford guy all my life. This is the first time I had look at a 1934 Ford convertible, for its time what a beautiful car. There was an older guy in my neighborhood he had some old fords from the thirty’s. I learned a lot from him.
Regarding the Ford V8 in the 1932 and 33 and 34 model years, recall that the 4-cyclinder was also available and killed after the 1934 model year .That engine came from the Model A Fords that were replaced for the 1932 model year (but still produced for a while in other countries I understand) & I heard these 4-bangers were upgraded with an additional 25% more hp (50 hp instead of 40) and became really swell 4 cylinder engines even though overshadowed by the low priced Ford V8s which if I recall were offered in 1932 for only $10 more than the 4-cylinder.I heard that they made roughly a couple hundred thousand over the 3 years offered. I do recall the Ford V8s as quite an amazing engine for the price point, but experiencing fuel vapor lock to some degree (maybe a little more than other vehicles of the era experienced) especially on hot hot days) even all the way up to their last year in 1953 model year, is that also true? I heard it can be handled even back then simply doing what you could to cool the fuel a bit could help solve this concern (such as with a carb spacer to keep back the heat a bit). Any comments to clarify?? Wasn't that true all you experts out there?
I wonder what Ford did to those cars to keep them from overheating during the climb? Those flathead V8's were notorious for overheating in the best of conditions. It makes me question how "stock" they were, LOL.
By 1934, Ford had solved much of the overheating of the earlier cars. I’ve run flathead V8’s for over fifty years, and they rarely overheat at speed, usually only in parades or city traffic in extremely hot weather
Another factor is the altitude in general. Cooler temps for sure the higher you climb. I think the temps drop 2.3 degrees for every 1000' of elevation gain or something like that.
@@timdailey2571 -- Not to my understanding. Ford was still using the old primitive water pumps up until the 1948 8RT. By the way, when you say "early cars", 1934 was an early car with a flathead V8. Remember, Ford came out with this engine in 1932. Considering how Ford routed the exhaust through the water jackets and was using the older primitive water pumps in 1934, and running 4,000 rpm up 12 miles of mountain, I'm a little skeptical of the "stock" claim.
@@kensmithgallery4432 -- However, according to the video they are maintaining 4,000 rpm. This is still the early V8 design with the primitive water pumps. Ford didn't upgrade to their better water pumps until the 1948 8RT engine. Considering how Ford routed the exhaust through the water jacket and the older, and lower flow water pumps, I find the "stock" claim dubious at best. Constant 4,000 rpm climbing up 12 miles of mountain in a flathead? I don't know.......🤔
Perhaps I should have phrased it “earlier cars”, there were improvements over the ‘32 & ‘33 (especially the casting issues of the initial ‘32. The water pumps were not at all primitive, in fact they often were too efficient, drawing the water through the block so fast that it didn’t have time to cool in the radiator. Without spending too much time in detail, the problem is that exhaust passages from the center cylinders runs through the water jacket. This was Ford’s compromise to make the first low cost V8 - not perfect, yes - but good enough to change the landscape of performance in a low priced car, and the basis for many a race car, experimental car, etc. , not to mention a good portion of cars & trucks on the road. plus, remember that an awful lot of time has elapsed, and the cars and engines have seen many a mile and the march of time. I have restored cars for customers who owned and driven them when they were new, and had no idea that some considered the V8 as an engine that would overheat - they never experienced that issue. They were “late model cars” then.
1932 Ford came out with the V8. It was a big thing. First shrouded in secrecy. Than production came. All production was halted in order to set up for the roll out of the infamous Ford V8. Lots was sunk into it and the needed to sell it to the public. There was a brief rocky start but big promo managed to save it. This for instance a big thing. Just two years later. The competition in automobile sales was kind of freaking. Ford had succeeded.
This doesn't look so insanely dangerous as the current race. Maybe we should require naturally aspirated flat heads only as a safety measure today. or at least, a nostalgia class.
4200 RPM! Every one of those 85 horses clawing up that mountain!
Yes indeed!
Hoofing
Thank you Ken for sharing this old video on the Pikes Peak Ford V-8 performance. And the Stock car race.
Absolutely my pleasure!
Thank you for posting this.
Ive been watching alot of these racing history vids lately , and they are fantastic. We are so lucky to have all this so easily accessible to us, thanks to folks like yourself
Glad you enjoyed it!
even tho these films are of low quality and B/W they have an endearing quality to them..and a rare chance to have a look at our past..to say they are cool is an understatement..plz post more..new sub..
Lots more coming too! Thanks for subscribing, commenting, and watching!
My first car to drive was 1957 Ford Country Squire my mother’s car, big 351 ci v8 I was 14, I was the man of the house. Changed the oil, spark plugs I been a ford guy all my life. This is the first time I had look at a 1934 Ford convertible, for its time what a beautiful car. There was an older guy in my neighborhood he had some old fords from the thirty’s. I learned a lot from him.
What a great story! Thanks for sharing!
Had 312, y block in it.
That's awesome! I have wondered how the Red Barchetta would do on pikes peak? The scary part is coming back down.
I've driven that very road multiple times while I lived there. Going down is the scary part! Gravity always wins!
@@kensmithgallery4432 going down is easy put the thing in low and don't get in a hurry, you should not need the brakes. you will be fine.
OUTSTANDING! Thank you
Thanks for watching!
Regarding the Ford V8 in the 1932 and 33 and 34 model years, recall that the 4-cyclinder was also available and killed after the 1934 model year .That engine came from the Model A Fords that were replaced for the 1932 model year (but still produced for a while in other countries I understand) & I heard these 4-bangers were upgraded with an additional 25% more hp (50 hp instead of 40) and became really swell 4 cylinder engines even though overshadowed by the low priced Ford V8s which if I recall were offered in 1932 for only $10 more than the 4-cylinder.I heard that they made roughly a couple hundred thousand over the 3 years offered. I do recall the Ford V8s as quite an amazing engine for the price point, but experiencing fuel vapor lock to some degree (maybe a little more than other vehicles of the era experienced) especially on hot hot days) even all the way up to their last year in 1953 model year, is that also true? I heard it can be handled even back then simply doing what you could to cool the fuel a bit could help solve this concern (such as with a carb spacer to keep back the heat a bit). Any comments to clarify?? Wasn't that true all you experts out there?
Those are some great talking points for sure! Thanks for commenting and for watching!
Seeing Spencer Penrose in this film is priceless.
Yes it is!
Ready for more videos like this
Me too! Thanks so much!
How far we've come!
Indeed we have!
Great video.thanks
You are welcome!
I ran up the peak in the 80’s…well some running.
Even walking is a serious hike!
Back before the road up was paved!
I know!!!!
Breathing all that dust then lights a cigarette at the end.
So ironic yet so true for the time period! Thanks for watching!
back then, the cigarettes were good for you.
I came here to say the same thing.
By the way, Chevy climbed up Pikes Peak off road in the late 1950's with a 4x4 truck!! I thought that was impressive.
That is impressive!
@@kensmithgallery4432 -- There is a video of it on TH-cam.
I wonder what Ford did to those cars to keep them from overheating during the climb? Those flathead V8's were notorious for overheating in the best of conditions. It makes me question how "stock" they were, LOL.
By 1934, Ford had solved much of the overheating of the earlier cars. I’ve run flathead V8’s for over fifty years, and they rarely overheat at speed, usually only in parades or city traffic in extremely hot weather
Another factor is the altitude in general. Cooler temps for sure the higher you climb. I think the temps drop 2.3 degrees for every 1000' of elevation gain or something like that.
@@timdailey2571 -- Not to my understanding. Ford was still using the old primitive water pumps up until the 1948 8RT. By the way, when you say "early cars", 1934 was an early car with a flathead V8. Remember, Ford came out with this engine in 1932. Considering how Ford routed the exhaust through the water jackets and was using the older primitive water pumps in 1934, and running 4,000 rpm up 12 miles of mountain, I'm a little skeptical of the "stock" claim.
@@kensmithgallery4432 -- However, according to the video they are maintaining 4,000 rpm. This is still the early V8 design with the primitive water pumps. Ford didn't upgrade to their better water pumps until the 1948 8RT engine. Considering how Ford routed the exhaust through the water jacket and the older, and lower flow water pumps, I find the "stock" claim dubious at best. Constant 4,000 rpm climbing up 12 miles of mountain in a flathead? I don't know.......🤔
Perhaps I should have phrased it “earlier cars”, there were improvements over the ‘32 & ‘33 (especially the casting issues of the initial ‘32. The water pumps were not at all primitive, in fact they often were too efficient, drawing the water through the block so fast that it didn’t have time to cool in the radiator. Without spending too much time in detail, the problem is that exhaust passages from the center cylinders runs through the water jacket. This was Ford’s compromise to make the first low cost V8 - not perfect, yes - but good enough to change the landscape of performance in a low priced car, and the basis for many a race car, experimental car, etc. , not to mention a good portion of cars & trucks on the road. plus, remember that an awful lot of time has elapsed, and the cars and engines have seen many a mile and the march of time. I have restored cars for customers who owned and driven them when they were new, and had no idea that some considered the V8 as an engine that would overheat - they never experienced that issue. They were “late model cars” then.
1932 Ford came out with the V8. It was a big thing. First shrouded in secrecy. Than production came. All production was halted in order to set up for the roll out of the infamous Ford V8. Lots was sunk into it and the needed to sell it to the public. There was a brief rocky start but big promo managed to save it. This for instance a big thing. Just two years later. The competition in automobile sales was kind of freaking. Ford had succeeded.
Ford was always huge on promotion and promoting the V8 was a sure fire recipe for success!
There is a reason Clyde Barrow exclusively stole these things.
He did like 'em!!
Very easy to steal
Like the episode where Aaron and Richard from Gas Monkey ran the Falcon and the truck up the peak.
Thanks for watching!
When they paved it that was the end of interest in PP
Yep!
Awesome
Thanks so much!
Are we watching a race or a Ford commercial?
Both!
This doesn't look so insanely dangerous as the current race. Maybe we should require naturally aspirated flat heads only as a safety measure today. or at least, a nostalgia class.
Love the idea of a nostalgic class!
thoes guys were hungry
Yes they were!
Paving it ruined the sport. Dirt was the great equalizer.
I absolutely 100% agree with you!
what did it equalise? Fastest car with the best driver still wins, it’s just safer now.
@@Yosser70 it requires much more skill to drive on a dirt gravel surface especially on steep grades then it does on your safe pansy ass pavement.
Boy, he almost lost his mechanic.
Those guys were nuts!
^5!
Thanks so much!
Criminals
Thanks for watching!
Definitely a "simpler" time... If FORD still advertised this way, I'd be interested
It definitely was. Thanks for watching!