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Every black leftist thought leader was either assassinated, exiled, arrested, bought, or drowned out They left us with black conservative thinkers, black capitalists, and populist faking grifters that care more about getting to the bag than the culture.
But when black conservative thinkers are willing to work with black leftists there's division. Meanwhile WS continues over both. And anti-jew has been thrown around to isolate black revolutionaries from the rest of our community who are so financial dependent on Jewish appeasement and general non Jew white appeasement.
White ones haven't faired very well either. There's a long history of leftist getting killed in this country back to before the first world war. A lot of folks were able to be bought and gave up the fight, but plenty lost their lives fighting for so many of the labor protections that have been under assault for the last several decades. We need solidarity, a revitalization, and mobilization of the movement.
@@joshv.1490 such as? What white leftists haven't faired well? Isn't Chomsky an American leftist? How do we have solidarity when we can't have open and honest dialogue to work through our differences? Example is the truckers against anti-vax. Many so called leftists on social media shit on them instead of having a dialogue with them to work through differences. Richard Wolf spoke to this too how the left shouldn't toss them aside instead of recruiting them to build up a labor revolution. Female workers have metoo which is part of interesctionality that must be addressed along with migrant worker concerns and black worker concerns like Ye talks about with contracts that stop ownership over what black labor creates for these corporations. Etc. Etc. Etc. We gotta have open dialogues to work through all these greivances. How can we have revitalization with solidarity, no way to get everyone on the same page if we are all arguing with each other remaining divided. And mobilization towards what? Mobilize to do what? A general strike to do a list of demands?
@@Thed538dhsk I don't see how citing a leftist author and professor (Chomsky or Wolfe) and their career successes is somehow supposed to negate the lost lives of leftist activists dating back to the Palmer raids. The exceptions don't negate the rule. I'd agree with professor Wolfe's perspective, but I'm not going to pretend it's easy to change the hearts and minds still under the sway of capitalist propaganda and a culture that eagerly radicalizes and exploits such people to it's end. You might as well ask me how we recruit the folks from the 6th, and I'd say they definitely have the discontent to make ideal partners (though their misplaced rage would make that a dangerous endeavor). Strikes, yes! Running, yes! Having these conversations, and not just in echo chambers. Being able to restore people's hopes and objectives by painting a future worth fighting for. Hopefully we can eventually achieve a more direct means of democracy and achieve systemic changes in an equitable fashion.
I thoughts the points about how criticism of black conservatives rapidly devolves into criticism of their blackness were very well put. I had always been pretty hesitant to engage with a lot of videos that go this route but I haven’t heard it articulated as well as in this video. FD still the goat of TH-cam.
this idea of not criticising conservatives just because they are black is an issue that in the usa is more political because class consciousness is clearly racialised. the nature of being a white supremacist cultural identity and ideology. the idea that in the usa all people are embarrassed millionaires.
My pops was a black conservative. I grew up being called a "peace living liberal" like that's a bad thing. Became politically aware in high school and college and aligned as a Anarcho-Socialist but I add "Black" in front bcz racism surely exists on the far left too
Your pops was probably lucky enough to only look at the nonsocial aspects of conservative discourse, did he have a decent-very good job or some other "advantage"? Like .... Did he have something that leaned him that way?
I am a white man living in a very white region of the USA. I'm here to listen and learn more about a culture that would otherwise be inaccessible to me. When my kids have questions I hope to have a more informed answer for them than was given to me at their age.
you have come to the right place. and congratulations, because the internet is vast and there's a lot of bullshit out here. but this channel is thorough and honest.
My friend and neighbor has unveiled more manosphere ideologies over time but also we met through me teaching them about being non binary and they were receptive. Now with this resurgence and the backlash against the manosphere he’s sharing Kanye, Kyrie and even Tate now going on saying people going by “they” are crazy. Like we can both exist in his world dude I’m trying to be your neighbor and advocate for the community together but you don’t want me to exist. Grindset isn’t morality
I have been hoping for you to do a video on Black-Jewish relations for a while, since long before Kanye got on his latest nonsense. I’m really glad to hear that you’re in talks with LadyKnight, but I’m even gladder to hear you say you’re taking the time to actually do the topic justice instead of rushing into it out of some feeling of influencer obligation to comment on black drama for the benefit of a white audiences. So excited to see that video whenever it comes out, I know you’re gonna do a great job
Regardless of how you view yourself, I think you might be both. In the same way that the algorithm places you in front of a specific group, there is a specific group that will be pulled to you that will naturally see you as not just the teacher, but also the leader. What will enough educated people naturally create in a place of ignorance? All love sir, you are an inspiration for sure and deserving of your position.
As a white viewer here I actually appreciate that your work is not centering white people from an educational format. I specifically come here to get an understanding of inter black community discourse to get a frame of refrence I usually would not have access to. I see what youre doing and its excellent.
Exactly why I came here. I’m mixed but grew up in a primarily white community. I don’t want to be pandered to as a white person. I want to hear what the community is actually talking about and cares about
I come here because FD is dope and he's teaching me stuff I would never learn anywhere else. I'm not looking for black content to understand black culture, it's just interesting and useful to help me understand the world, myself, other people. It's just good to know about other people. Helps that FD is a dope content creator, too. I'm just glad he's doing what he does and that I can expand my understand of the world bit by bit.
@@Pensnmusiche’s not really Black. He’s a suburban black. For him to think Black people define themselves by liberal and conservative shows how out of touch he is. There are many liberal Democrats who share kyries views. In fact many people who hated Ye in the past have rooted for him in this issue. That’s why dude is stutter so much because he is scared of being authentic. I’ve been saying this about him.
I want to say as a Jew who loves your videos that I really empathise with that pressure to speak out about something. Growing up Jewish, I often felt called upon to express support for or denounce Israel and my views on the conflict were formed entirely out of defensiveness rather than from a place of knowledge and curiosity, and I felt an obligation to represent something to people I encountered who didn’t know many or any other Jews. I can’t speak for the rest of my community but I would respect it if you never wanted to speak about Kanye for that reason, but I really really respect you taking the time to inform yourself and not just having a knee jerk response from a place of ignorance, as I used to
Yeah there's an analogy to be drawn between BHI/NOI and Zionism. They both grow out of a marginalized group's history of oppression and legitimate grievances, but those grievances manifest in a twisted conservative way. So I feel you. I often get the feeling that I have to "be a good representative" for black people because if black conservatives control the narrative then they'll make us all look bad
@@Lectical I tend to connect Zionism to stuff like Marcus Garvey and the Americo-Liberians, but I don't know much (read: anything) about BHI/NOI. Is there a connection there? Am I noticing a real thing without knowing the terminology, or are there other parallels? There's also the possibility that we don't quite mean the same thing when we say Zionism, but that doesn't seem likely to be the issue here.
@@gazeboist4535 I know this comment is a year old, but there are a number of parallels between Liberia and Israel, and I'd say that's a fairly good comparison.
@@whym6438No, you're good. This is literally the only feedback I've ever gotten on the idea and I still never see anyone talking about it, so it's nice to know there's someone who thinks it has merit.
Hey F.D., I love your channel, and I think you've said a lot of important things on your show. The antisemitism thing is very difficult to address by its nature. It's like nailing jello to a wall. Being a Jewish American myself (and white as a fucking ghost) doesn't make it easier. I have found a few books to be extremely useful in at least gathering some historical and philosophical understanding. I hope you take these book recommendations appreciatively, as they are certainly not offered in the "you obviously are foolish." One that I really loved was called "A Rumor About the Jews" by Stephen Eric Bronner. It is an analysis and deconstruction of the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion," an antisemitic document from 1 903 which has been a huge influence on antisemitism (and conspiratorial thinking) to this day. Another is more recent and is called "A Specter Haunting Europe" which discusses the confluence of antisemitism, racism, and anticommunism. The third is a bit specific; it is the last chapter of "Dialectic of Enlightenment" by Horkheimer and Adorno, titled "Limits to Enlightenment: Elements of Antisemitism." That chapter sketches a philosophical prehistory of antisemitism but is more abstract than the first two and might require some more effort. But I think those three texts can provide a lot of food for thought re: antisemitism and its difficult nature.
Thanks for these book recommendations. This entire Kanye/Kyrie fiasco led me to research the roots of antisemitism. As a Black American woman, learning about "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" was a huge lightbulb moment for me in understanding white supremacist ideologies and what antisemitism *actually* is. Its similar to anti-Blackness, that shit is everywhere lol
If I may recommend some french authors, because France has been champion when it comes to anti-semitism the last two decades : I would add "Anti-semitism revisited" by the french rabbi Delphine Horvilleur, she explains very well in which times antisemitism becomes prevalent and its ties to misogyny. Very easy to read. The second one is "Hate: The Rising Tide of Anti-Semitism in France (and What It Means for Us)" by Marc Weitzmann. Foreigners may not know, but the first terrorist attacks made by french muslims here started against the jews. And almost all terrorist attacks had an anti-semitic "tone" to it (sorry i'm not fluent in english so my choice of words may be weird sometimes - i hope not too much haha). He studies how anti-semitism spreaded among young muslims and how it's ties to their rejection of Western Culture (or White supremacy you would call in america) in post-colonial times. He also studies the anti-semitism of the french far right and its history (precisely the rejection of French Revolution and the enlightement). Moreover, he explains the link between the hatred of jews and the hatred of modernity. That last book I think may be very interesting when it comes to the topic of the video :)
@@shinebabyshine. For sure, white supremacy stands on the bricks of antisemitism & anti-Blackness. The antisemitism showing up in the media lately is most detrimental to Black Jews. They get left out of the narrative so often. I feel so grateful when folks start looking into the “Protocols”. It really does open the floodgates. A lot of hatred is built from this text. It was also a reference when they wrote the Malleus Maleficarum to persecute witches. It’s really interesting to discover the stereotypes of “witches” are often just code for Jews as well.
Hey, as an African Jewish woman I wish these reading recommendations didn't erase non-European Jewish histories and Jews of Color... thanks. All these recommendations you gave him are from white / European Jewish thinkers...
The part about algorithmic preferences for certain black behavior- yea, it's a very real thing. And it kind of hurts to see how that impacts black men, as the most anti black and misogynistic of us will pretty much always have a platform.... To be a black man and get anywhere in that climate, you have to be EXCEPTIONAL AT EVERY TURN to even have a chance to compete with ashy McGee
FWIW, the exact same algorithmic preference exists for women who make misogynistic content online. Men will gladly support us & even fund us on patreons if we tell them what the patriarchy wants us to say. It's disheartening, especially bc most men in the real world don't even think that way 🥴
As a white man who grew up in a rural and very conservative part of the country, I have always felt as though I have been quarantined from the ideas present within the black community. Especially when learning about black history in school, it was always presented as though “black history,” was its own, less important, subset of history, not as an important piece of the whole. I bring this up to say that the ability for people who were like I was to find your channel, among others, where incredible, well-researched videos with salient critique, analysis, and introspection are made is powerful. I always walk away from your videos feeling as if I have learned something valuable.
@@vlogily8043 realizing that long ago was crucial to my path in anarchism. Public schools in America really don't teach the history of black people as it ought to, otherwise, I dare say many students might get a bit too knowledgeable about their own country.
Honestly what opened my eyes to that reality was taking History of Rock in college, of all things. Before then, I had absolutely no clue just how embedded black culture was in American culture as a whole and how it spawned so many (if not all) of our cultural touchstones without ever giving them the credit they deserved.
I've wanted to reach out and talk with you for a while, FD. Not sure how to get in contact. But my late uncle (Glen Ford) always told me that internally - if you consider Black America a country within a country - our internal rightest of the right wing is the NOI, Black Hebrew Israelites, etc. The left wing are the grassroots activists (the left part almost goes without saying) that you'd recognize in every city. I guess to specify better, it's the type of Black activists you'd see pushing for more resources for schools, control of our own institutions, reparations, and other government interventions. Short hand - the political descendants of the BPP. That's the two ends of the spectrum, and we have everything in between. Being a Black Republican Candace Owens type - a Black person who is essentially a white supremacist who collaborates directly with a vehemently anti-black white power structure (the political descendants of pro-slavery, pro Jim crow, pro-lynching folks) - isn't native to Black America and shouldn't be viewed as such. Sure, it's a real phenomenon - those people exist and have always existed - but we ought to view it much differently in the lens of Black politics. Modern-day white Republicans are not a black political structure. We do have structures that a built to collaborate with "white folks", but a black man at a Trump rally is not engaged in that the way a Black person who is active in their local, black run Democratic Party is (or a church, the NAACP, etc who collaborate directly with Democrats). There is no inherent Black wing of modern Republicanism and we ought not put it on the spectrum of natively Black politics. If Black America was a physical nation - your Candace Owens types simply moved out of it.
S tier vid honestly. It's such a hard balance because people like Kanye are doing real damage to marginalized communities, but like you said it's not really possible to address that as a white person without inadvertently promoting anti-blackness. I think it comes down to that not everyone always needs to have a public take on every issue like social media would have us believe, and it's ok to sit one out here or there if you're not gonna add anything productive to the discourse. Still feels bad to just be like "well I guess I'd rather let black people deal with it so it's not being used as an excuse to prop up racism" cause that feels like it's just offloading the feeling of responsibility to people more marginalized than I am, but at the end of the day there's no shortage of prominent white people with similarly harmful takes I can criticize instead without having the same drawbacks if I feel the need. If it wasn't difficult to navigate criticizing these people, they wouldn't be as successful as they are. I know if I was a jew this situation would really be eating at me. Just sucks all around, at the end of the day it'd be best to just deplatform these people but that's much easier said than done when we're talking about someone with the name recognition of Kanye West or Kyrie Irving Also lol @ 30:59
QUALITY VIDEO ALERT 🚨‼️ So I’m Jewish, and I find myself almost *needing* that validation from black creators that kanye is ~ bad ~ and 6 minutes in you already touched on stuff I know but emotionally don’t accept. Like this isn’t prominent black politics (statistically black Americans are the most progressive demographic on almost every mark). But its amplified by conservative voices to seem like a real issue in the black community. Key issue being it’s a black issue is whats being projected, not a conservative issue. And that need I feel, is still ingrained socialized racisms, fears and biases. good video as usual
The problem is... you guys are the most PRIVILEGED group in America and in the world. Kanye and Kyrie have already been punished by the white, Jewish elite establishment. What else do you guys want?
@@bjesgirl first off, our the gate with “the problem with you people” energy. Exactly what my comment is about is the problem with that line of thinking. Second did you just call Jews the most privileged group in america and the world? The past 3000 years of human existence would disagree. You realize Jews still get stoned to death in some areas. White Ashkenazi Jews aren’t just all Jews, second the reason why white Ashkenazi Jews have a higher income is because we are so used to being threatened by society it’s ingrained in our culture to “hide” and accumulate communal wealth, because when shit hits the fan whose the first people on the chopping block? The fact so many white people obviously agree with Kanye and Kyrie is the issue. We are still hated Also “jewish elite establishment” this is just neo nazi conspiracy stuff. WE DONT HAVE TRIBE MEETINGS ON KANYE IN BANKS!!! Its not like all Jews sacrifice a goat and get our cloaks and meet in a bank to discuss how to punish black men💀 this conspiratorial thinking is literally what causes us to be genocided off all the time. Yes Jews make higher incomes on average, but most of us, like myself, are educated liberal communities of doctors, lawyers or such as myself an electrician. We are taught to pick up a high income trade or career and stay in the community. We don’t control the government, that’s still white Protestants. Its not a mistake that there’s never been a Jewish president.
@@SvenDzahov ok, please explain what institutions are in place to oppress white Jews? Since you are so "scared?" Is institutional racism against white jews woven into the fabric of housing, healthcare, employment, criminal justice and public school systems? Because it is against black people. So once again why do we have to speak out in y'all's defense? Every black person that says anything about a Jewish person is beaten into submission or stripped of all their wealth. So why do you need us to speak out? You all have the power to hold people accountable and you do. Why do you want to be a victim so bad? You were victimized during the holocaust but now the oppressed have become the oppressor. Just bask in your privilege and leave us black people alone!
My partner's white Jewish and as soon as all this started and people started tearing into these two they just looked exhausted and said most people attacking them wanted an excuse to attack some black men, they don't really care about Jews on a wider scale and it wouldn't have been nearly the response it was if they weren't black men and that fucking sucks for both Jews and black people
That algorithmic incentive is a real thing. The sad reality that we've been caught up in the fanfare of this stuff around the same time as the announcement that Mutulu Shakur will finally be released. It says a lot about a lot.
Yeah, I’m not black but I am a POC in America. I find your discussions and explanation here very interesting. Being in community with (more) black people (than the majority white population) I do think I had some understanding and reaction that these viewpoints from Kanye and Kyrie are not respected in the community and regressive and bad. What I don’t think I had considered was the things you discuss and consider for why so many white commentators elevate and critique these fringe ideals to try and dismantle on a public stage. Maybe there was some implicit understanding but I hadn’t considered (or at least put specific language to it) for the reasoning and incentives (especially as you say “algorithmic incentive”) for those discussions and view points from white creators. All this to say I really appreciate this video, I had kinda assumed that you wouldn’t talk about the Kanye and Kyrie situations (or at least for a good while) but hearing your sort of meta discussion on the issue of discussing those viewpoints is really interesting and appreciated and definitely helped me think in new ways. All that to basically say good video haha.
Exactly, elevating this fringe views keeps the narrative going. I like how FD points out how these fringe people are only known in mostly white circles and that says all I needed to hear.
i'm a white eastern european, your videos are very educational on many levels, not just the ~racism~ 🤔 like yea, i still have a lot of racist bs in my head i need to unlearn but it's my responsiblity. i wish black creators could talk about anything they want without risking getting the 'education for whites' label slapped on their stuff
It's so surprising to me how many blind spots I find in my own perspective through watching you. Granted, I am an Indian woman, and my "experience" of America is entirely limited to my exposure to its cultural exports. But even accounting for that distance doesn't explain the asymmetry of my myopia. I wanted to see you speak on Kanye, debunk Kanye, "dunk" on him, without even considering the bigger picture: publicly criticising a black person for the viewing pleasure of a general audience achieves absolutely nothing beyond dignifying anti-black sentiment. Contrast this with my reaction to a certain white actress (you know who) getting ripped to shreds earlier this year -- all I could talk about was how "the reality of any public outcry against a woman is that it is inevitably coloured by, and a catalyst to, virulent misogyny blah blah blah". Why I couldn't draw an obvious parallel without someone spelling it out for me? Who the fuck knows.
I really like how intentional you’re with what you post about and cover. Acknowledging the over saturation of the type of videos from the online left is a great point. It snowballs into repetitive unproductive discourse usually. Lots of respect for what you’re doing on this channel.
There is no hope of reconnecting enough "normies" to socialism without somehow dismantling the center right and far right media ecosystems and while it was bad enough when center right media was the dominant media ecosystem, this barrier seems to only be getting worse as the far right media is expanding so rapidly, especially on social media, that it is now overtaking center right media.
I think there are ways of appealing to people on the far right through socialism (if you're white and traditionally masculine). I've got relatives and Coworkers that I've pulled over by just appealing to common sense and acting "manly". It takes a while to massage away the bigotry though.
@@qwertyuiop42385 Define "pulled over". Are they completely removed from consuming far right media or are they just sometimes saying they agree with you during discussions?
@Green Demon it starts at the latter, but they change over time. I had one guy who was like "fuck all homeless people" initially, then I got him to agree with giving them shelter so they could find jobs, then I got him to agree that housing should be a basic right for everyone, and so on. It's a process, but I think it's worth it. Again, this only works because I look and sound the way I do, but the hope is that eventually, they'd be willing to listen to someone who doesn't look like me.
@Green Demon Conservatives are affected by a lot of the same stuff as lefties, they just blame minorities for their problems for various reasons. I think your average person has at least a grain of compassion deep in their soul somewhere, and it can grow with some help. I will acknowledge that Conservatives tend to "react" and fall back into their old ways without someone to chill them out a lot of times though.
A lot of black folks agree with them and it’s like it’s disrespectful to black Jews because they’re often disrespected within the Jewish community because of their race. And it’s like how would black folks feel if a major non black celebrity denied slavery?
It is wild to me, because the reason they wanna be the chosen people so bad is for the exact same reasons they have an issue with those who colonized us, and the effects of systemic oppression. When you believe u are chosen by a higher power, it becomes much easier to dehumanize those u view as unchosen. It is the same mindset as manifest destiny and the WMs Burden that led europeans to lose their humanity conquering the world, and it is the exact same mentality that has led to apartheid in Palestine. The minute u wanna be a chosen people, there has to be a group u see yourself as chosen over, and u VERY quickly begin to use that chosen status to justify harm. And if u don't believe me, look up the number of hebrew israelites who have harmed others, including their women and children, in the belief that they are burdened with being chosen. I also dont get what they want everyone to do once they have told ppl they're the real chosen people. Ok... so we know. What happens next? It's just such reactionary bs
I don't think we're defending them. I certainly am not. But I don't see how "antisemitism" trumps anti black racism in 2022. White Jews aren't marginalized today, they don't need any defending from black people. In fact, European Jews are actively oppressing black Americans, Africans, Ethiopian Jews and Palestinians.
Honestly I hope you continue to make videos about the stuff you want to talk about it. First cos it's probably better to do something that makes you happy. And second because I've found those are often your most interesting videos. I don't necessarily know who half the people you're talking about are before I click these videos (because I'm not American and grew up outside the West) and I come away feeling like I learned so much. Creating what other people want is fine, it pays the bills. But the passion projects expand horizons and get people thinking about things they weren't considering.
Hearing you say that black folks don't get a strong black analytical frame until they're thirty was honestly pretty reassuring to hear as a black man who's currently 25. As great as it is to keep learning and developing my analytical frame, I often step back and wonder "damn, am I really this far behind?" I dunno if this falls under the definition of impostor syndrome, but it does feel like that at times. That said, hearing that I'm not as behind as I think I am is reassuring, and I'm just gonna keep learning what I can and building that analytical frame.
I'm really glad I've found this channel, there's not many predominant lefty channels who really speaks on black experiences like my own. Even if there's alot of F.Ds veiwers that are not really the target audiences for most of his videos. I'm just saying it's worth having a large amount of white to find other black male figures people like him and Foreign for example.
Really interesting hearing your insight on Noah’s video. When I watched it, I noticed he was trying to be very intentional to leave room for her to have growth, change, and whatever. But I hadn’t considered how that regardless opens it up to a variety of other issues As a white member of your audience who got on board a couple weeks before Bo Burnam video, I’ll just say I’m glad you’re feeling the integrity and stuff. But I can definitely see how the pressures you’ll be feeling is going to come from places that aren’t what you want to be as an educator and content creator. I’m not here to be taught the basics, I’m here to listen in on valuable conversations and good takes on media
Talking about the Noah Samson stuff had me geeking, because I knew actually how she was gonna respond to it. I was watching his video like "nooooooooooo Noah don't do it." And she absolutely did it.
Loved this! I think it’s also important to point out that this censorship or exclusion of black radicals by the algorithm is carried on from an already existing tradition of silencing those voices. Many of those people have spent 40-50 years in prison or are still sitting in prison today.
I am a white man who doesn't know a lot of black people in real life so I am really glad I found your channel, and a bunch of other channels of black creators who have been recommended to me through you. Wisconsin culture is historically very white supremacist but also historically very socialist, depending on the area. Like Mark Twain said, broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's life. I don't have the opportunity to travel and experience other cultures so channels like yours are very important to me.
Mixed kid. Found him a few weeks ago. Can't even remember the first video I watched, but I've felt "seen" a couple different times with the topics he's brought up and really like the intelligence put behind his words.
Yeah I agree, I'm Jewish and I really don't feel like I need you to 'refute' Kanye etc, that's not on you. Antisemitism is a product of white supremacy, not Black conservatives, even when they say antisemitic things. I would be very happy to see a conversation with Jewish creators though, especially Black Jewish voices.
@@dsa513 It's also easy to scan and make a blanket statement that Jewish people are the cause/source of shady business within the music industry - when the situation is more that there are bad actors, bad people, bad practices happening within the music industry and we see people of all colors and backgrounds doing bad things. Artists have been screwed over by industry peeps that were white, Black, Jewish, atheist, and more. Other artists have been well taken care of by industry members that were white, Black, Jewish, and so on.
@@InterIdoru yup... just a few weeks prior to Kanye's comments, Kelis exposed how she had been made to sign predatory deals with Pharrell Williams when she was still a teenager and impressionable and didn't read the fine print, and she was basically robbed of her rights to her own music. And the reason why Beyonce didn't do anything about it is because she knows if she stood in solidarity with Kelis it would have meant maaaany shady deals and bad contracts, including of Jay Z, would be under scrutiny. And now we're gonna start saying only Jewish people are responsible for bad business practices in music?
my problem with this whole thing is people not recognizing the struggles that both groups of people go through and still experience. i feel like when it comes to minorities we have tried to have a competition to out-oppress one another.
The thing about these “asks” of, “Hey are you gonna talk about Kyrie, Kanye, or Dave?” - is that some of them are in bad faith. And it all gets segmented into various categories. You got your weird, anti-black left-leaning folks who wanna test your politic and see if you’re one of the “good blacks”, and if you’re not they’re gonna try to skewer you. You also got your left-leaning folks who want you to “sic’ em” to the “bad black conservatives” - so they’re still anti-black and fucked. Then you got the right-leaning folks who either a. Want to see if you side with them on anti-semitism or b. Watch the left fight itself into oblivion if you say something that pisses the lefties off. I mean all of it is a weird space to be in as a black leftuber and it just speaks to more acrobatics that black folks have to do in imperialist, white supremacist, capitalist patriarchy (rip bell - real one). All this to say…you did an excellent and lovely job at outlining the precarity of the situation your in while reaffirming your politic, especially since you recognize your importance to get your content in front of younger black folks, young boys and men in particular, as a form of education and prevention. Hats off to you.
As a Jew, the transparently disingenuous shit I see from white racists infuriates me. They think we don't see the replacement theory shit coming out of the other side of their mouth when they feign righteous indignation about Kyrie or Kanye - nah we don't want their defense and we're not cosigning their racist views just because they spend a couple days pretending to care about antisemitism...especially when it's only as a way to perpetuate bigotry towards black people. They can go to kapos like Ben Shapiro for validation
I reallu enjoyed this video for two reasons. 1. I had been wondering for a while why there seemed to be so many black conservative mouthpieces than ever before. I think your answer makes a lot of sense. 2. I had been seeing Tiktoks suggesting that people refusing to speak on Kanye and Kyrie were essentially consigning their statements. I hadn't said anything about it because I realized to Kanye (and by extension most black conservatives) a pile of "woke white people" to fingerwaging at them that they can clip and ship is a godsend. I have actually caught myself thinking "if this dude wouldn't listen to F D Signifier why would they listen me" multiple times. I think no matter how careful and well intentioned White Leftists try to be we need to realize that Sneako and Fresh and Fit fans are not going to have their minds changed by getting epically owned in the marketplace of ideas.
It’s funny what you have to say about the Black Left, considering that I just found out what Duboisian sociology was. I still don’t know how Dubois doesn’t have his own little sub section of socialism the way other greats do. (Marxism, Stalinism, Maoism, Trotskyism) like Dubois founded the NAACP, First black man to graduate from Harvard with a PHD, attended the founding convention of the United Nations, legitimately has whole texts dedicated to black people’s struggles in American society on such a level that it’s a disgrace that we don’t know the impact of this man.
Hey FD, I don't know if you'll see this or it but, I sent you an email. This is an important topic so thank you for recognizing that the issue is multifaceted and it'd be best to approach it with different Jewish perspectives also in mind. The introspection and self-awareness you display really makes you stand out. Building genuine understanding between communities through a dialogue that's massively accessible is a positive contribution to this world. I look forward to the video whenever it comes out.
Been rocking with ya since your video on why white men love edgelord movies, the evolution has been stellar. Seeing that "Black Media Breakdown" clip had me feeling a bit nostalgic lol.
As someone that spent some time as a teacher and coach: it totally gets annoying being asked about something that's going on right now in the zeitgeist. As a person with more knowledge to express there are some times other things that are more important in the right now for them to learn. Also sometimes the wisdom comes from sitting with a topic and thinking and making sure you understand the context; especially something that has a bigger life like a TH-cam video then an interpersonal one-on-one moment. At the end of the day I really appreciate two really big things about every video you produce. 1. Even in your hottest takes you could feel the wisdom and thoughtfulness about your point of view and the topic you're covering. 2. You talk openly about how you get to conclusions. It's easy for someone to come up with a point of view and make it unassailable but it's so much more powerful you showing us the bricks that you start building with. And while you have good reason not to feel comfortable in the structures: you are putting deep wisdom seeds into minds very hungry for information that doesn't make sense from the perspective no one else is talking about loud enough. Ever since you're various manosphere videos I have not been able to touch a single comedy podcast because I hear the deeper manosphere implications of what informs that comedy. Conversations with other men have turned into "why are you so serious" because there is something rotten in Denmark. And I appreciate this new space in which I live accepting accountability but at a loss sometimes of what the next steps in understanding are. Love the videos love seeing the process and thank you for having good tough conversations
Wait, as someone in the US, what is going on in Denmark? You don't have to explain. I'm perfectly fine with any videos or articles you can point out to me. Thank you!
@@annoyedbyyourface something rotten in Denmark is a Shakespeare quote. It usually means that something underneath the surface of a situation is not quite fully visible. In the same way they video enlightens topics to an audience that has no clue that certain things are amiss or different than what I previously thought.
Thank you for getting more granular about this. It will always be complicated to have any intra-community conversations with outside eyes on, especially when there are multiple identities involved. Black Jewish people, like writer and culinary historian Michael Twitty and theoretical physicist Chanda Prescod-Weinstein have been doing a good job of talking about antisemitism they're experiencing, and why Kanye and Kyrie are severely out of pocket coming out with these fringe weird ideas.
those are two great voices. as a very white jewish person, this situation is difficult because anti-Black racism and Ashkenormativity are very real things and I do not deny those experiences. F.D. makes great points and I hope he looks into the writings of Black Jews to understand that perspective on the issue as he continues researching.
Please do a sequel on that, it’s really tiring to see bad takes by non black people on Kanye’s state and the larger politics behind his antisemitism. Huge fan of your work ❤
It's very interesting to me ( as a non american) that you pointed out bell hooks as the most known of all of them. Angela Davis is in the history books where I am from, alongside Malcolm X, Dubois, and Martin Luther King. I remember watching her interviews in class. Shamefully, I did not here about bell hooks till my early 20s ( in a Kim Foster video).
Dude I am so happy you talked about the Noah and Xina stuff. I watched all the videos related and couldn't tell if she and her audience missed the point or if they blatantly ignored it to pull the whole, "white man criticize me means he's racist" shit. I bothers me a lot when I see people do that shit. Imo I assume it probably makes racist people feel validated. But at the same time I saw it coming a mile away. And it really is a weird place to be on the side lines watching it like, damn he not really wrong. But engaging and defending the stance would open up the opportunity to group you in with their negative connotations.
You have a Mexican viewer here, I enjoy watching your content to learn and to be able to understand my black friends and to be able to hear them out, I just hope one day that I can have these types of conversations with my own people
My union apprenticeship included labor history and somehow they avoided all mentions of socialism let alone black socialism. They championed Eugene Debs even but refused to say what party he ran for haha
I think there have always been plenty of black Americans (men mostly)who broader white Americans consider a part of the liberal/left spectrum but are actually nationalist/conservatives who don’t like other groups or black women and if it weren’t for white racism would be Republican voters. The reason they generally don’t get called out more is because it doesn’t really matter what they think because they don’t have any power or anyone listening to them in power. It’s hard enough getting someone to advocate for the black community in government, let alone implement like a Holocaust on behalf of a few mostly non-voting hotep dudes. Whereas white bigots are winked at constantly by their representatives even if their more extreme policies aren’t an imminent threat. What’s tough about the Ye and Kyrie situation is just that their profiles are so high, that it’s unavoidable. You sort of have to take a position on it. And you have a lot of people coming out to say, @yes, I feel this way too. They’ve said nothing wrong!” And it becomes like the altright where a small share of the actual population seems huge, or like larger numbers of people secretly agree with them, and that can have real world consequences. In the case of the altright, they had the president of the United States afraid to offend them because he considered them his base (and might actually agree with them). If black people are incorrectly seen as being pro-Holocaust they aren’t going to be listened to by those in power the same way. They will be targeted though.
It’s so interesting what you said about these conservative black influencers targeting white audiences. I noticed my feed has been cluttered with these people in my suggested videos. Super creepy. I never watch or like the videos but they keep popping up!
What I find to be missing from the convos about black antisemitism is the fact that many (most?) Jewish people in the US also have white privilege, and have a hand to play in American anti-blackness because of that, presently and historically. But that's about white supremacy, not Judaism, so it also doesn't justify any amount of antisemitism. Yet the algorithm (and white supremacy) doesn't permit the subtleties and healing of that conversation.
Yes. An analogy I think is useful to talk about antisemitism would be the following: an abusive teacher (white supremacy and capitalism) is constantly giving unfairly bad grades to his students. But the students are done with this and they wanna start a rebellion and organize together to get the teacher fired. So the abusive teacher picks a favorite student in the classroom (Jewish people) to encourage all the other kids to bully the favorite student cause he's perceived a bootlicker... but all this time the teacher is the one giving them unfair grades. Now people are not mad at the teacher anymore cause they're too focused on hating and resenting that "teacher's pet" student and bullying him. It appears that the teacher is treating that kid better (for example when ADIDAS or other white capitalists seems to performatively condemn antisemitism very loudly, while they never care about antiBlackness), but really he's not helping that kid by doing that: he's actually feeding him to the other kids anger and basically treating him as a scapegoat. And the other kids think they're "going against the unfair system" by hating on that kid, but they're really just letting the system manipulate them. Now the only way this cycle can be broken is if the "teacher's pet" REFUSES to be a bootlicker (if Jewish people refuse to side with white supremacy and capitalism, and unite together with the other minorities to fight the system), and if the rest of the kids REFUSE to be played into bullying that one kid, and all working class people of color unite against white supremacy and capitalism.
@@Yryyyys YES! Antisemitism most potent trait that aids Capital is that it serves a pseudo-emancipatory sentiment, at the end protecting capital. Jews thus become a buffer zone, a scapegoat, a convenient and defined point of fixation to represent 'the evils of Capital' in lieu of a systemic proper critique of capitalism and white supremacy.
I used to not fully understand the depth of why you mentioned the algorithm as much as you do until I started reading Race after Technology, now I'm seeing it everywhere. And I was watching that Noah situation like 👀 he's right but we know where this is going
hands down, you've been the best teacher on these subjects and sometimes that is a tough burden to have. your stuff holds up even years later and i feel it is because of how well you analyze it from all these viewpoints.
There's already 2 hours of Kanye on your channel and if folks actually paid attention it was very clearly implied that this new chapter of Kanye was inevitable anyways so I'm not sure what people expect from you. Maybe you can upload a youtube short Kanye pt 3 that's just "Yep...Told you this was coming...Peace" and that's it: just 15 seconds.
I feel like often minorities are held to task for/ asked to speak on the bad behavior of other people in their community. While it’s important to speak out it can be tiring to feel like you have to refute every bad actor. As a Jewish viewer I agree that the attention should be going to larger figures spreading antisemitism in a much more mainstream and insidious way.
Yea it's not FDs responsibility to respond, that would be like a litmus test for black people to ask them to condemn them. I have also seen a lot of black creators respond excellently to them and refute everything the said and am grateful to them but it's not their responsibility to answer for people who happen to also be black but have nothing to do with them.
I am a Jew and a follower and avid watcher of yours. Many in my community are wondering what to make of the recent controversies and how the black community is feeling. After several violent incidents recently we are scared.
How can black people "oppress" Jews? You guys are rich white people. PLEASE explain what you are scared of. You guys went through a decade of oppression. We have been oppressed for 400 years. I genuinely want to know- how can blacks be racist against Jews? You guys are literally at the top of the economic hierarchy. You have to have power to oppress others. Black people have no power, as has been demonstrated by Kanye and Kyrie losing everything.
Heyyyy Jason!!! I can’t speak for the entire community. I can only speak for myself and my household. I feel as though, the backlash people like Kanye and Kylie are getting for being “anti semitic” is warranted. I just wish that the same backlash was handed out when people like Kanye are being anti black. He lost nothing when he said those things about Harriet Tubman and about slavery being a choice. I just wish the punishment was balanced. Not saying that he should not have consequences at all, you feel me?
@@ChocolateThaiE 100%. Kanye should have been facing consequences long ago. At the end of the day Kanye is still a millionaire who's going to get by just fine. The propagation of his beliefs is what we're afraid of, and the backlash may not have done anything to prevent that. It may have actually made it more effective. The fear in my community is that these ideas are being promoted and accepted by larger and larger quantities. Retribution against Kanye is warranted justice, but the reach of his influence is something that feels unknown.
@@Jason-ym6jl I agree. Crazy thing is, what your community is feeling right now is how I am many people in mine have always felt. So I totally get how y’all are feeling. I feel that our communities should be working more together, but that won’t happen. There are deep seeded issues between American blacks (it’s crazy that i even have to clarify that, right? lol) and white Jews. That’s the issue that a lot of people don’t wanna talk about.
James Baldwin is my personal favorite, he was so unapologetic about his intellect, while running circles around those who thought less of us, as a race, while deeming themselves superiors. Also Nikki Giovanni too!!! James & Nikki conversing is a must watch!
Baldwin is 1 of my fave authors of all time, & deserves his place among the greats of American literature, not just African American literature as he's often portrayed. Yes, he spoke & wrote about race, but his books are about so much more than that & should be read as literature. The richness of his characters really helps students recognize universal aspects of humanity & understand how people from all walks of life experience different versions of the same major challenges & questions we all face
@@juliamuffinmonster1838 I haven't read everything Baldwin ever wrote but I did read a lot and no, that's just not true. If you're thinking of the NYT article "black people are antisemitic because they're anti-white", read it again.
@@Suzanne4415 I've read it multiple times. It perpetuates many, many antisemitic tropes about Jews and their relationship to power. It also explicitly ignores or dismisses Jewish history, the traumas they've gone through as a community, and then takes those whose trauma response was to buy into or perpetuate racial inequality as indicative of an entire group of people rather than viewing Jewish people as the diverse, complex community with many different interests that they are (and a community that includes and has always included Black people, another thing he pointedly ignores and glosses over). He reduces their humanity and then justifies it by claiming that a few representatives from a group that includes millions of people reduced his. Before the 1970's when there was a huge influx of Asian immigrants to America, white Jewish people were the original "model minority". What Baldwin's describing in this piece is the trap of the model minority. And like Asians, Jewish people faced (and continue to face) huge amounts of violence in spite of their relative "protection". It's important to remember when he's writing this - this was published in 1967 based on his childhood experiences in the 1930's and 1940's, a time in America (and New York City, where he's growing up and experiencing these things) where there are literal Nazi rallies in Madison Square Garden and armed gangs of Christian nationalists roaming the streets and attempting to infiltrate and overthrow the US government because they think FDR is a Jew and are opposed to America entering the war because they don't want Americans dying to protect Jewish people. There is a literal Holocaust. While he's writing this, the Klan in the South is still regularly perpetuating antisemitic attacks against Southern Jews by bombing synagogues along with Black churches, a thing they'll continue to do for decades after Baldwin's piece. They'll do this, ironically, not only because they just hate Jewish people but because of the Jewish community's perceived sympathy towards the Black community and continued support of the Civil Rights movement. Jew's perceived progressiveness and sympathy towards minority communities is still one of the most prevalent reasons for antisemitic violence, a necessary component to the Great Replacement theory, and the stated motivation of the Pittsburgh Tree of Life shooter which was like three years ago. A huge part of antisemitism both then and today is putting American Jews in this bind, where they're viewed as suspicious and other, not really progressives by the progressive community and as progressive secret agents by conservatives, protected by no one and deserving of the violence that happens to us by always being part of whatever you view as the other side. James Baldwin spends the entire piece basically legitimizing and codifying this social order. In his view, Jews are always and solely concerned with money. He's like "oh, I don't know if Jews control the government, but SOME PEOPLE say they do", which is a pretty naked dog whistle. He makes bonkers claims like that Jews were "welcomed" in America as opposed to Black people. He finds it impossible to believe that American Jews having a long history of supporting the Black community and championing Black causes even while knowing it meant taking on enormous risk to their personal safety could ever possibly be in good faith - surely because they're Jews and a lot of them have white skin, that means they're buying Black people's silence. He ignores the fact that there are and have always been Black Jewish people. He blames Jews as a monolith for being part of a system of white supremacy that they didn't create and have suffered enormously at the hands of, while ignoring that many Black people have attempted to make the exact same respectability for protection bargain many Jews have made because again, minority communities are diverse and complex. And he does all of this while it would be absolutely impossible for him to not know that by doing it, he's legitimizing an ideologies that were used then and are still used today used as justification for murdering Jewish people. That's antisemitism. If you don't read that as antisemitism, then I really can't help you.
It’s so funny you mentioned Noah because my thoughts were “why is he talking about this black girl?” I know he’s apart of the crew but it didn’t feel right. But if it was a black woman calling her out I wouldn’t have felt this way because I know that race and gender dynamics aren’t a factor. I’m so use to defending and feeling protective over black women when (especially white men) people come for us. Nothing against Noah (he has great videos and I actually agree with him because she was spewing nonsense) but my initial reaction was to defend her. Just being honest.
I'm a black leftist and I actually agree with that girl. I think it's time we had our own characters. I don't see how that is a trash take? So we are supposed to keep swapping races with every damn white character from the past? I honestly think y'all are putting your politics ABOVE the issue here. So what the girl is not politically aligned with us....she raises an interesting point. I'm standing with the black girl on this....
I hadn't thought about how much you perceive your role on TH-cam thats a hard thing to have to work with. I am thankful for your content because you've become one of my favorite TH-camrs in a very short amount of time and my algorithm has improved in my opinion because you've recommend other channels and they have recommend other channels and I feel at the very least more challenged and wanting to keep my mind open and available for multiple topics being exposed to people TH-cam would have never sent me to.
I was gonna write a comment disagreeing with the reason why I enjoy watching your content. But after some serious deep thought you are sort of correct. The reason I subscribed and I watch your stuff on the regular is because you like Breaking Benjamin. If you did not like Breaking Benjamin I would not have subscribed for as long as i have.
I my a white guy living in the Midwest with minimal context to a lot of the issues that you talk about - a lot of the time, it's stuff I didn't even know I needed more context to. I appreciate the amount of time you put into teaching people about things they might not understand in a kind way that makes them open to hearing about it. You've done me some good 😂
Imo, talking about conservative conspiracy theories and how they target and impact Indigenous Americans and Jewish people would probably be a more useful conversation...than Kanye or any one individual.
I'm glad your waiting to make content on this, because as time goes on it seems things will only get worse for them and I want to see where they end up at the end of all this craziness.
I generally agree with his hesitancy to speak on the Kyrie/Kanye stuff. But it’s kinda strange that nearly no prominent blk ppl have come out against them. And Chappelle very publicly co-signed Kyrie’s actions. It’s fucked up and goes against the solidarity we need. Fred Hampton said it best ‘We don’t hate the White mofo, we hate the oppressor, whether he be white, blk, green, brown, or yellow’. Condemn, move on, and build.
Why do we have to speak out? Black people are at the bottom of the totem pole. Jews are at the very top. They don't need us to defend them. Jews have the power to punish black people who step out of line which they did swiftly and effectively. They have already punished Kanye and Kyrie what else do you want?
Black people are learning really quickly how white people work. White people center themselves and demand everyone else's solidarity, but do not give it on return. This is why white jews weaponize antisemitism in their own defense even though they are not semitic. Why is it that you don't hear white jews condemning the antisemitism against black jews in Israel or in the US, or the antisemitism against Palestinians? Black people understand that this cynical weaponization of antisemitism against black people is just white people engaging in covert racism.
“several layers of anti-Blackness down” at 26:05 or so, that is a great way to describe that sense. Like an “anti-Blackness radar” I have cobbled together inside myself by watching content like this
Im a white man who enjoys your content and also listens to Destiny (we aren't all toxic), and who's best friend is a Hebrew Israelite. And most of my friends are pro Kyrie and Kanye. I don't want to see you dunk on anyone, or go bloodsports. Im here for the nuance. And I'm excited for the video. I agree with you that overall black conservatives are not as big as white conservatives. But I do see at least in my personal circle more and more people leaning right especially young people. I do try and push your content more because the algorithm won't. But one thing I hear more to them often is that they think there's truth in the ideologies of Kanye and Kyrie because the white establishment won't let anyone talk about it. While it should never be your responsibility to speak on this I do know that it will do a lot of good. Continue your work. Stay strong and I hope for growth in both your channel and your personal life
Hearing the Black Hammer shout-out was wild, I had no idea people were still talking about them. One of my best friends used to be a member, quit, and then was one of the people who started organizing against them after she saw how badly they had treated other members.
While not a leftist theorist, Gill Scott-Heron was someone who could speak to the working class about those types of ideas. But they’re still little known today.
The way I've heard it best framed is that anti-blackness and antisemitism use the same methods in oppression and stereotyping. Understanding antisemitism can give you great insight into understanding anti-blackness even more.
I would disagree with that. Anti black racism and antisemitism function very differently and have different histories. Antisemitism is inherently genocidal in a way no other oppression is. Anti black racism degrades it's subjects in a way that no other form of oppression does. They have different outcomes, and also, antisemitism isn't racism. It's its own thing.
@Chana Understanding one oppression on a macro scale helps you understand all oppression. Also anti-blackness on a global scale has resulted in genocide in some parts of the world. I am not arguing that they have similar "histories," but the strategies and methods used to oppress are similar.
At least imo, I’m not looking for you to be making videos for white people. I engage with your material in the same way I engage with say, Kat Blaque’s videos. She makes videos explaining being trans, polyamorous, into BDSM, Blackness, etc. and (mostly) discussed issues publicly that are in-community conversations - conversations I wouldn’t ever, ever be in the room for. But being a fly on the wall of those conversations a. broadens my understanding of people I don’t have the opportunity to meet in in real life but, and more importantly, b. allows me to grasp nuance of something so outside of my personal understanding of reality because the conversation isn’t tailored to me. So yeah, I love your channel, vibes, etc. because it is hugely valuable & appreciated.
Black Hammer seems important culturally, not for what it is but just as one of the uncountable examples of the way cults work and draw folk in (esp. young people). Most people think they’re something wacky like the popular conceptions of Heaven’s Gate or the Manson Family-and they may be. But cults can also be all sorts of stuff people aren’t looking out for. Black Hammer isn’t as large as Scientology, NXIVM, or Grassroots Campaigns Inc., but in a lot of ways it didn’t get enough attention for what it really was and how it was really exploiting people versus reacting to whatever latest antics were to pull in more attention. It seems worthwhile to investigate cults of various kinds because they don’t only prey on stupid, gullible, or desperate people, and we’re all stupid, gullible, and desperate some of the time.
Thank you for your perspective, I really value your insight into the amplification of voices that shouldn’t be amplified, and the perspectives you brought me with regards to the discussions surrounding black conservatism . As a (half) white male in my early thirties, I have struggled to understand why black people would work with the Republican Party at all, as it seems that racism is inextricably linked to conservative beliefs. I look forward to learning more from your videos, and am glad I came across your channel. You’re doing great work, and honestly I could listen to you talk for hours. Thank you from upstate NY!!
And I also recommend reading Ella Shohat's (an Iraqi Jewish woman) very short and very interesting essay "Zionism from the standpoint of its Jewish victims". You can find it online easily
I really appreciate your videos. Before I found your channel I was regularly exhausted by trying to explain my thoughts on certains now I can show your videos to open up dialogue with my brothers and white co workers. Your video help me to sus out folks that aren’t going to benefit me or my family thank you sir✊🏾
Whew brother… the way MLK was turned into an animated Disney character is crazy. I, myself, didn’t learn about his views on the American economic landscape and Universal Basic Income until high school. Afterwards, I went to one of the top universities in the world and I don’t think Black Liberal revolutionaries from the mid 20th century were discussed in my core coursework the entire time I was working on my degree.
I personally hate the "You Should Say Something" mindset people give, because that usually means "You Should Apologize on Behalf Of This Person" and that sentiment is stupid. Unless you contribute to that person's actions then you don't have anything to apologize for. You're not Kanye or Kyrie's dad, Kat Blaque isn't Jessica Yaniv's mom, and George Takei isn't Kevin Spacey's dad. Don't expect apologies from conservatives who've influenced shooters.
Hell yes. I'm here to hear you & Black voices, not see myself centered again. I'm sorry there's even that pressure to center whiteness. As always, very much appreciate your thoughts here & look forward to your video & other viewpoints 🌸
As someone who is on the path to get a PhD in sociology whatever videos you make, I love. Your analytic perspectives are fantastic and teach me how to continue to look through that analytic lens. Leftism, media, you name it any subject you got great vision, and it keeps me inspired to keep doing what I wanna do.
Every black leftist thought leader was either assassinated, exiled, arrested, bought, or drowned out
They left us with black conservative thinkers, black capitalists, and populist faking grifters that care more about getting to the bag than the culture.
But when black conservative thinkers are willing to work with black leftists there's division. Meanwhile WS continues over both. And anti-jew has been thrown around to isolate black revolutionaries from the rest of our community who are so financial dependent on Jewish appeasement and general non Jew white appeasement.
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White ones haven't faired very well either. There's a long history of leftist getting killed in this country back to before the first world war. A lot of folks were able to be bought and gave up the fight, but plenty lost their lives fighting for so many of the labor protections that have been under assault for the last several decades. We need solidarity, a revitalization, and mobilization of the movement.
@@joshv.1490 such as? What white leftists haven't faired well? Isn't Chomsky an American leftist?
How do we have solidarity when we can't have open and honest dialogue to work through our differences? Example is the truckers against anti-vax. Many so called leftists on social media shit on them instead of having a dialogue with them to work through differences. Richard Wolf spoke to this too how the left shouldn't toss them aside instead of recruiting them to build up a labor revolution. Female workers have metoo which is part of interesctionality that must be addressed along with migrant worker concerns and black worker concerns like Ye talks about with contracts that stop ownership over what black labor creates for these corporations. Etc. Etc. Etc. We gotta have open dialogues to work through all these greivances.
How can we have revitalization with solidarity, no way to get everyone on the same page if we are all arguing with each other remaining divided.
And mobilization towards what? Mobilize to do what? A general strike to do a list of demands?
@@Thed538dhsk I don't see how citing a leftist author and professor (Chomsky or Wolfe) and their career successes is somehow supposed to negate the lost lives of leftist activists dating back to the Palmer raids. The exceptions don't negate the rule.
I'd agree with professor Wolfe's perspective, but I'm not going to pretend it's easy to change the hearts and minds still under the sway of capitalist propaganda and a culture that eagerly radicalizes and exploits such people to it's end. You might as well ask me how we recruit the folks from the 6th, and I'd say they definitely have the discontent to make ideal partners (though their misplaced rage would make that a dangerous endeavor).
Strikes, yes! Running, yes! Having these conversations, and not just in echo chambers. Being able to restore people's hopes and objectives by painting a future worth fighting for. Hopefully we can eventually achieve a more direct means of democracy and achieve systemic changes in an equitable fashion.
I thoughts the points about how criticism of black conservatives rapidly devolves into criticism of their blackness were very well put. I had always been pretty hesitant to engage with a lot of videos that go this route but I haven’t heard it articulated as well as in this video. FD still the goat of TH-cam.
Its why you don’t debate the likes of Candace Owens. Especially if you’re a white liberal.
He articulated it perfectly, very professional.
this idea of not criticising conservatives just because they are black is an issue that in the usa is more political because class consciousness is clearly racialised.
the nature of being a white supremacist cultural identity and ideology. the idea that in the usa all people are embarrassed millionaires.
That sentence was genius. I've been trying to think of this sentence for year
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My pops was a black conservative. I grew up being called a "peace living liberal" like that's a bad thing. Became politically aware in high school and college and aligned as a Anarcho-Socialist but I add "Black" in front bcz racism surely exists on the far left too
Your pops was probably lucky enough to only look at the nonsocial aspects of conservative discourse, did he have a decent-very good job or some other "advantage"? Like .... Did he have something that leaned him that way?
I am a white man living in a very white region of the USA. I'm here to listen and learn more about a culture that would otherwise be inaccessible to me. When my kids have questions I hope to have a more informed answer for them than was given to me at their age.
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you have come to the right place. and congratulations, because the internet is vast and there's a lot of bullshit out here. but this channel is thorough and honest.
My friend and neighbor has unveiled more manosphere ideologies over time but also we met through me teaching them about being non binary and they were receptive. Now with this resurgence and the backlash against the manosphere he’s sharing Kanye, Kyrie and even Tate now going on saying people going by “they” are crazy. Like we can both exist in his world dude I’m trying to be your neighbor and advocate for the community together but you don’t want me to exist. Grindset isn’t morality
That’s awesome you’re a great dad and human being
Antisemitism is not culture
I have been hoping for you to do a video on Black-Jewish relations for a while, since long before Kanye got on his latest nonsense. I’m really glad to hear that you’re in talks with LadyKnight, but I’m even gladder to hear you say you’re taking the time to actually do the topic justice instead of rushing into it out of some feeling of influencer obligation to comment on black drama for the benefit of a white audiences. So excited to see that video whenever it comes out, I know you’re gonna do a great job
Who is LadyKnight?
Regardless of how you view yourself, I think you might be both. In the same way that the algorithm places you in front of a specific group, there is a specific group that will be pulled to you that will naturally see you as not just the teacher, but also the leader. What will enough educated people naturally create in a place of ignorance? All love sir, you are an inspiration for sure and deserving of your position.
Really well said Lem.
Thank you kindly for your comment.
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The laser trap we have to navigate every day as black men is exhausting. Props to you bro
What’s exhausting about it
Kissing white ass is exhausting. Good thing I don’t do that. But if y’all wanna continue to beg for approval, that’s fine.
You @@kev9617.... you. 🙄
@@cassiusdhami9215 I was just about to mention you but ik your family got enough to worry about.
@@kev9617 You’re a loser bro😂😂what are you talking about
As a white viewer here I actually appreciate that your work is not centering white people from an educational format. I specifically come here to get an understanding of inter black community discourse to get a frame of refrence I usually would not have access to. I see what youre doing and its excellent.
Exactly why I came here. I’m mixed but grew up in a primarily white community. I don’t want to be pandered to as a white person. I want to hear what the community is actually talking about and cares about
I come here because FD is dope and he's teaching me stuff I would never learn anywhere else.
I'm not looking for black content to understand black culture, it's just interesting and useful to help me understand the world, myself, other people. It's just good to know about other people.
Helps that FD is a dope content creator, too. I'm just glad he's doing what he does and that I can expand my understand of the world bit by bit.
Shoot em a banana
@@Pensnmusiche’s not really Black. He’s a suburban black. For him to think Black people define themselves by liberal and conservative shows how out of touch he is. There are many liberal Democrats who share kyries views. In fact many people who hated Ye in the past have rooted for him in this issue. That’s why dude is stutter so much because he is scared of being authentic. I’ve been saying this about him.
@@davruck1 it sounds like you could be making a point, but that's a dumb way to say it.
I want to say as a Jew who loves your videos that I really empathise with that pressure to speak out about something. Growing up Jewish, I often felt called upon to express support for or denounce Israel and my views on the conflict were formed entirely out of defensiveness rather than from a place of knowledge and curiosity, and I felt an obligation to represent something to people I encountered who didn’t know many or any other Jews.
I can’t speak for the rest of my community but I would respect it if you never wanted to speak about Kanye for that reason, but I really really respect you taking the time to inform yourself and not just having a knee jerk response from a place of ignorance, as I used to
Yeah there's an analogy to be drawn between BHI/NOI and Zionism. They both grow out of a marginalized group's history of oppression and legitimate grievances, but those grievances manifest in a twisted conservative way. So I feel you.
I often get the feeling that I have to "be a good representative" for black people because if black conservatives control the narrative then they'll make us all look bad
@@Lectical I tend to connect Zionism to stuff like Marcus Garvey and the Americo-Liberians, but I don't know much (read: anything) about BHI/NOI. Is there a connection there? Am I noticing a real thing without knowing the terminology, or are there other parallels? There's also the possibility that we don't quite mean the same thing when we say Zionism, but that doesn't seem likely to be the issue here.
@@gazeboist4535 I know this comment is a year old, but there are a number of parallels between Liberia and Israel, and I'd say that's a fairly good comparison.
@@whym6438No, you're good. This is literally the only feedback I've ever gotten on the idea and I still never see anyone talking about it, so it's nice to know there's someone who thinks it has merit.
Hey F.D., I love your channel, and I think you've said a lot of important things on your show.
The antisemitism thing is very difficult to address by its nature. It's like nailing jello to a wall. Being a Jewish American myself (and white as a fucking ghost) doesn't make it easier. I have found a few books to be extremely useful in at least gathering some historical and philosophical understanding. I hope you take these book recommendations appreciatively, as they are certainly not offered in the "you obviously are foolish."
One that I really loved was called "A Rumor About the Jews" by Stephen Eric Bronner. It is an analysis and deconstruction of the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion," an antisemitic document from 1 903 which has been a huge influence on antisemitism (and conspiratorial thinking) to this day. Another is more recent and is called "A Specter Haunting Europe" which discusses the confluence of antisemitism, racism, and anticommunism. The third is a bit specific; it is the last chapter of "Dialectic of Enlightenment" by Horkheimer and Adorno, titled "Limits to Enlightenment: Elements of Antisemitism." That chapter sketches a philosophical prehistory of antisemitism but is more abstract than the first two and might require some more effort.
But I think those three texts can provide a lot of food for thought re: antisemitism and its difficult nature.
Thanks for these book recommendations. This entire Kanye/Kyrie fiasco led me to research the roots of antisemitism. As a Black American woman, learning about "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" was a huge lightbulb moment for me in understanding white supremacist ideologies and what antisemitism *actually* is. Its similar to anti-Blackness, that shit is everywhere lol
If I may recommend some french authors, because France has been champion when it comes to anti-semitism the last two decades : I would add "Anti-semitism revisited" by the french rabbi Delphine Horvilleur, she explains very well in which times antisemitism becomes prevalent and its ties to misogyny. Very easy to read. The second one is "Hate: The Rising Tide of Anti-Semitism in France (and What It Means for Us)" by Marc Weitzmann. Foreigners may not know, but the first terrorist attacks made by french muslims here started against the jews. And almost all terrorist attacks had an anti-semitic "tone" to it (sorry i'm not fluent in english so my choice of words may be weird sometimes - i hope not too much haha). He studies how anti-semitism spreaded among young muslims and how it's ties to their rejection of Western Culture (or White supremacy you would call in america) in post-colonial times. He also studies the anti-semitism of the french far right and its history (precisely the rejection of French Revolution and the enlightement). Moreover, he explains the link between the hatred of jews and the hatred of modernity. That last book I think may be very interesting when it comes to the topic of the video :)
@@shinebabyshine. For sure, white supremacy stands on the bricks of antisemitism & anti-Blackness. The antisemitism showing up in the media lately is most detrimental to Black Jews. They get left out of the narrative so often. I feel so grateful when folks start looking into the “Protocols”. It really does open the floodgates. A lot of hatred is built from this text. It was also a reference when they wrote the Malleus Maleficarum to persecute witches. It’s really interesting to discover the stereotypes of “witches” are often just code for Jews as well.
Hey, as an African Jewish woman I wish these reading recommendations didn't erase non-European Jewish histories and Jews of Color... thanks. All these recommendations you gave him are from white / European Jewish thinkers...
@@Yryyyys do you have any book recommendations that aren't?
The part about algorithmic preferences for certain black behavior- yea, it's a very real thing. And it kind of hurts to see how that impacts black men, as the most anti black and misogynistic of us will pretty much always have a platform....
To be a black man and get anywhere in that climate, you have to be EXCEPTIONAL AT EVERY TURN to even have a chance to compete with ashy McGee
FWIW, the exact same algorithmic preference exists for women who make misogynistic content online. Men will gladly support us & even fund us on patreons if we tell them what the patriarchy wants us to say. It's disheartening, especially bc most men in the real world don't even think that way 🥴
Hell ever since this Kanye Kyrie situation I been getting Hebrew Israelite videos on my feed
As a white man who grew up in a rural and very conservative part of the country, I have always felt as though I have been quarantined from the ideas present within the black community. Especially when learning about black history in school, it was always presented as though “black history,” was its own, less important, subset of history, not as an important piece of the whole.
I bring this up to say that the ability for people who were like I was to find your channel, among others, where incredible, well-researched videos with salient critique, analysis, and introspection are made is powerful.
I always walk away from your videos feeling as if I have learned something valuable.
Yep black history is American history
@@vlogily8043 realizing that long ago was crucial to my path in anarchism. Public schools in America really don't teach the history of black people as it ought to, otherwise, I dare say many students might get a bit too knowledgeable about their own country.
Honestly what opened my eyes to that reality was taking History of Rock in college, of all things. Before then, I had absolutely no clue just how embedded black culture was in American culture as a whole and how it spawned so many (if not all) of our cultural touchstones without ever giving them the credit they deserved.
I've wanted to reach out and talk with you for a while, FD. Not sure how to get in contact. But my late uncle (Glen Ford) always told me that internally - if you consider Black America a country within a country - our internal rightest of the right wing is the NOI, Black Hebrew Israelites, etc. The left wing are the grassroots activists (the left part almost goes without saying) that you'd recognize in every city. I guess to specify better, it's the type of Black activists you'd see pushing for more resources for schools, control of our own institutions, reparations, and other government interventions. Short hand - the political descendants of the BPP. That's the two ends of the spectrum, and we have everything in between. Being a Black Republican Candace Owens type - a Black person who is essentially a white supremacist who collaborates directly with a vehemently anti-black white power structure (the political descendants of pro-slavery, pro Jim crow, pro-lynching folks) - isn't native to Black America and shouldn't be viewed as such. Sure, it's a real phenomenon - those people exist and have always existed - but we ought to view it much differently in the lens of Black politics. Modern-day white Republicans are not a black political structure. We do have structures that a built to collaborate with "white folks", but a black man at a Trump rally is not engaged in that the way a Black person who is active in their local, black run Democratic Party is (or a church, the NAACP, etc who collaborate directly with Democrats). There is no inherent Black wing of modern Republicanism and we ought not put it on the spectrum of natively Black politics. If Black America was a physical nation - your Candace Owens types simply moved out of it.
Very interesting and insightful metaphor
The description of Candace Owens is so spot on she should add it to her Twitter bio
this is very insightful.
@@fangal12 No, it's an outright lie at that.
Black centrists and black conservatives are the ones pushing for more resources for the kids.
S tier vid honestly. It's such a hard balance because people like Kanye are doing real damage to marginalized communities, but like you said it's not really possible to address that as a white person without inadvertently promoting anti-blackness. I think it comes down to that not everyone always needs to have a public take on every issue like social media would have us believe, and it's ok to sit one out here or there if you're not gonna add anything productive to the discourse. Still feels bad to just be like "well I guess I'd rather let black people deal with it so it's not being used as an excuse to prop up racism" cause that feels like it's just offloading the feeling of responsibility to people more marginalized than I am, but at the end of the day there's no shortage of prominent white people with similarly harmful takes I can criticize instead without having the same drawbacks if I feel the need. If it wasn't difficult to navigate criticizing these people, they wouldn't be as successful as they are. I know if I was a jew this situation would really be eating at me. Just sucks all around, at the end of the day it'd be best to just deplatform these people but that's much easier said than done when we're talking about someone with the name recognition of Kanye West or Kyrie Irving
Also lol @ 30:59
I agree
He’s not doing any damage. Jewish people aren’t marginalized. Stfu
If you deplatform them it just boosts their claim that Jews have huge influence over who gives people like Kanye and kyrie money and influence
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So I’m Jewish, and I find myself almost *needing* that validation from black creators that kanye is ~ bad ~ and 6 minutes in you already touched on stuff I know but emotionally don’t accept. Like this isn’t prominent black politics (statistically black Americans are the most progressive demographic on almost every mark). But its amplified by conservative voices to seem like a real issue in the black community. Key issue being it’s a black issue is whats being projected, not a conservative issue. And that need I feel, is still ingrained socialized racisms, fears and biases. good video as usual
The problem is... you guys are the most PRIVILEGED group in America and in the world. Kanye and Kyrie have already been punished by the white, Jewish elite establishment. What else do you guys want?
@@bjesgirl first off, our the gate with “the problem with you people” energy. Exactly what my comment is about is the problem with that line of thinking. Second did you just call Jews the most privileged group in america and the world? The past 3000 years of human existence would disagree. You realize Jews still get stoned to death in some areas. White Ashkenazi Jews aren’t just all Jews, second the reason why white Ashkenazi Jews have a higher income is because we are so used to being threatened by society it’s ingrained in our culture to “hide” and accumulate communal wealth, because when shit hits the fan whose the first people on the chopping block? The fact so many white people obviously agree with Kanye and Kyrie is the issue. We are still hated
Also “jewish elite establishment” this is just neo nazi conspiracy stuff.
WE DONT HAVE TRIBE MEETINGS ON KANYE IN BANKS!!! Its not like all Jews sacrifice a goat and get our cloaks and meet in a bank to discuss how to punish black men💀 this conspiratorial thinking is literally what causes us to be genocided off all the time. Yes Jews make higher incomes on average, but most of us, like myself, are educated liberal communities of doctors, lawyers or such as myself an electrician. We are taught to pick up a high income trade or career and stay in the community. We don’t control the government, that’s still white Protestants. Its not a mistake that there’s never been a Jewish president.
dont speak 4 all of us💯trust me bro if ye die 2morrow everybody will be sayin a whole different story...
Kanye, and men like him, are THEE WORST.
@@SvenDzahov ok, please explain what institutions are in place to oppress white Jews? Since you are so "scared?" Is institutional racism against white jews woven into the fabric of housing, healthcare, employment, criminal justice and public school systems? Because it is against black people.
So once again why do we have to speak out in y'all's defense? Every black person that says anything about a Jewish person is beaten into submission or stripped of all their wealth. So why do you need us to speak out? You all have the power to hold people accountable and you do. Why do you want to be a victim so bad? You were victimized during the holocaust but now the oppressed have become the oppressor. Just bask in your privilege and leave us black people alone!
My partner's white Jewish and as soon as all this started and people started tearing into these two they just looked exhausted and said most people attacking them wanted an excuse to attack some black men, they don't really care about Jews on a wider scale and it wouldn't have been nearly the response it was if they weren't black men and that fucking sucks for both Jews and black people
That algorithmic incentive is a real thing. The sad reality that we've been caught up in the fanfare of this stuff around the same time as the announcement that Mutulu Shakur will finally be released. It says a lot about a lot.
Yeah, I’m not black but I am a POC in America. I find your discussions and explanation here very interesting. Being in community with (more) black people (than the majority white population) I do think I had some understanding and reaction that these viewpoints from Kanye and Kyrie are not respected in the community and regressive and bad. What I don’t think I had considered was the things you discuss and consider for why so many white commentators elevate and critique these fringe ideals to try and dismantle on a public stage. Maybe there was some implicit understanding but I hadn’t considered (or at least put specific language to it) for the reasoning and incentives (especially as you say “algorithmic incentive”) for those discussions and view points from white creators. All this to say I really appreciate this video, I had kinda assumed that you wouldn’t talk about the Kanye and Kyrie situations (or at least for a good while) but hearing your sort of meta discussion on the issue of discussing those viewpoints is really interesting and appreciated and definitely helped me think in new ways.
All that to basically say good video haha.
Exactly, elevating this fringe views keeps the narrative going. I like how FD points out how these fringe people are only known in mostly white circles and that says all I needed to hear.
i'm a white eastern european, your videos are very educational on many levels, not just the ~racism~ 🤔 like yea, i still have a lot of racist bs in my head i need to unlearn but it's my responsiblity. i wish black creators could talk about anything they want without risking getting the 'education for whites' label slapped on their stuff
He’s cosplaying a black man. He’s another grifting clown
@@davruck1you’re a duck
It's so surprising to me how many blind spots I find in my own perspective through watching you. Granted, I am an Indian woman, and my "experience" of America is entirely limited to my exposure to its cultural exports. But even accounting for that distance doesn't explain the asymmetry of my myopia. I wanted to see you speak on Kanye, debunk Kanye, "dunk" on him, without even considering the bigger picture: publicly criticising a black person for the viewing pleasure of a general audience achieves absolutely nothing beyond dignifying anti-black sentiment. Contrast this with my reaction to a certain white actress (you know who) getting ripped to shreds earlier this year -- all I could talk about was how "the reality of any public outcry against a woman is that it is inevitably coloured by, and a catalyst to, virulent misogyny blah blah blah". Why I couldn't draw an obvious parallel without someone spelling it out for me? Who the fuck knows.
I really like how intentional you’re with what you post about and cover. Acknowledging the over saturation of the type of videos from the online left is a great point. It snowballs into repetitive unproductive discourse usually. Lots of respect for what you’re doing on this channel.
There is no hope of reconnecting enough "normies" to socialism without somehow dismantling the center right and far right media ecosystems and while it was bad enough when center right media was the dominant media ecosystem, this barrier seems to only be getting worse as the far right media is expanding so rapidly, especially on social media, that it is now overtaking center right media.
To capitalists far right is always more system friendly than left wing. And since capitalists own the media thats how it happens.
I think there are ways of appealing to people on the far right through socialism (if you're white and traditionally masculine). I've got relatives and Coworkers that I've pulled over by just appealing to common sense and acting "manly".
It takes a while to massage away the bigotry though.
@@qwertyuiop42385 Define "pulled over". Are they completely removed from consuming far right media or are they just sometimes saying they agree with you during discussions?
@Green Demon it starts at the latter, but they change over time. I had one guy who was like "fuck all homeless people" initially, then I got him to agree with giving them shelter so they could find jobs, then I got him to agree that housing should be a basic right for everyone, and so on. It's a process, but I think it's worth it.
Again, this only works because I look and sound the way I do, but the hope is that eventually, they'd be willing to listen to someone who doesn't look like me.
@Green Demon Conservatives are affected by a lot of the same stuff as lefties, they just blame minorities for their problems for various reasons. I think your average person has at least a grain of compassion deep in their soul somewhere, and it can grow with some help.
I will acknowledge that Conservatives tend to "react" and fall back into their old ways without someone to chill them out a lot of times though.
Thank you for covering this, I’ve seen an alarming amount of black creators on tiktok agreeing with Kanye and Kyrie
Not surprising honestly. Lot of factors that play into that
A lot of black folks agree with them and it’s like it’s disrespectful to black Jews because they’re often disrespected within the Jewish community because of their race. And it’s like how would black folks feel if a major non black celebrity denied slavery?
Same. In my personal life as well. It’s really disturbing
It is wild to me, because the reason they wanna be the chosen people so bad is for the exact same reasons they have an issue with those who colonized us, and the effects of systemic oppression. When you believe u are chosen by a higher power, it becomes much easier to dehumanize those u view as unchosen. It is the same mindset as manifest destiny and the WMs Burden that led europeans to lose their humanity conquering the world, and it is the exact same mentality that has led to apartheid in Palestine. The minute u wanna be a chosen people, there has to be a group u see yourself as chosen over, and u VERY quickly begin to use that chosen status to justify harm. And if u don't believe me, look up the number of hebrew israelites who have harmed others, including their women and children, in the belief that they are burdened with being chosen.
I also dont get what they want everyone to do once they have told ppl they're the real chosen people. Ok... so we know. What happens next? It's just such reactionary bs
I don't think we're defending them. I certainly am not. But I don't see how "antisemitism" trumps anti black racism in 2022. White Jews aren't marginalized today, they don't need any defending from black people. In fact, European Jews are actively oppressing black Americans, Africans, Ethiopian Jews and Palestinians.
Honestly I hope you continue to make videos about the stuff you want to talk about it. First cos it's probably better to do something that makes you happy. And second because I've found those are often your most interesting videos. I don't necessarily know who half the people you're talking about are before I click these videos (because I'm not American and grew up outside the West) and I come away feeling like I learned so much. Creating what other people want is fine, it pays the bills. But the passion projects expand horizons and get people thinking about things they weren't considering.
I love your point of view on these issues, and the amount of care you take with black people as a whole even if you don’t agree with them.
Hearing you say that black folks don't get a strong black analytical frame until they're thirty was honestly pretty reassuring to hear as a black man who's currently 25. As great as it is to keep learning and developing my analytical frame, I often step back and wonder "damn, am I really this far behind?" I dunno if this falls under the definition of impostor syndrome, but it does feel like that at times.
That said, hearing that I'm not as behind as I think I am is reassuring, and I'm just gonna keep learning what I can and building that analytical frame.
I'm really glad I've found this channel, there's not many predominant lefty channels who really speaks on black experiences like my own. Even if there's alot of F.Ds veiwers that are not really the target audiences for most of his videos. I'm just saying it's worth having a large amount of white to find other black male figures people like him and Foreign for example.
I’m glad you brought up the Noah situation bc reading her comments drove me insane
Really interesting hearing your insight on Noah’s video. When I watched it, I noticed he was trying to be very intentional to leave room for her to have growth, change, and whatever. But I hadn’t considered how that regardless opens it up to a variety of other issues
As a white member of your audience who got on board a couple weeks before Bo Burnam video, I’ll just say I’m glad you’re feeling the integrity and stuff. But I can definitely see how the pressures you’ll be feeling is going to come from places that aren’t what you want to be as an educator and content creator. I’m not here to be taught the basics, I’m here to listen in on valuable conversations and good takes on media
Talking about the Noah Samson stuff had me geeking, because I knew actually how she was gonna respond to it. I was watching his video like "nooooooooooo Noah don't do it." And she absolutely did it.
I enjoy the way you engage with and talk about stuff. The only lecture I end with a smile on my face.
Loved this! I think it’s also important to point out that this censorship or exclusion of black radicals by the algorithm is carried on from an already existing tradition of silencing those voices. Many of those people have spent 40-50 years in prison or are still sitting in prison today.
I am a white man who doesn't know a lot of black people in real life so I am really glad I found your channel, and a bunch of other channels of black creators who have been recommended to me through you. Wisconsin culture is historically very white supremacist but also historically very socialist, depending on the area. Like Mark Twain said, broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's life. I don't have the opportunity to travel and experience other cultures so channels like yours are very important to me.
I'm a black man and this channel even teaches me a lot. Welcome bro
Mixed kid. Found him a few weeks ago. Can't even remember the first video I watched, but I've felt "seen" a couple different times with the topics he's brought up and really like the intelligence put behind his words.
Try out Aba n Preach, Eric July, and Patience Xina.
Yeah I agree, I'm Jewish and I really don't feel like I need you to 'refute' Kanye etc, that's not on you. Antisemitism is a product of white supremacy, not Black conservatives, even when they say antisemitic things.
I would be very happy to see a conversation with Jewish creators though, especially Black Jewish voices.
Yess!! This! Black Jews are getting left out of this story & they’re the ones hurt most by this bullshit.
Sometimes it's not even black neocons, but also hotep dudes, and to a lesser degree hip hop dudes who are distrustful of the music industry.
@@dsa513 It's also easy to scan and make a blanket statement that Jewish people are the cause/source of shady business within the music industry - when the situation is more that there are bad actors, bad people, bad practices happening within the music industry and we see people of all colors and backgrounds doing bad things. Artists have been screwed over by industry peeps that were white, Black, Jewish, atheist, and more. Other artists have been well taken care of by industry members that were white, Black, Jewish, and so on.
@@InterIdoru👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼Very good point. Thank you for saying this!
@@InterIdoru yup... just a few weeks prior to Kanye's comments, Kelis exposed how she had been made to sign predatory deals with Pharrell Williams when she was still a teenager and impressionable and didn't read the fine print, and she was basically robbed of her rights to her own music. And the reason why Beyonce didn't do anything about it is because she knows if she stood in solidarity with Kelis it would have meant maaaany shady deals and bad contracts, including of Jay Z, would be under scrutiny. And now we're gonna start saying only Jewish people are responsible for bad business practices in music?
Thank you for your work and promoting black voices. I can’t tell you how much I appreciate getting a chance to learn and see more about the world.
Dude I just love this so much. The whole video was just a masterpiece, I can’t wait for more content
my problem with this whole thing is people not recognizing the struggles that both groups of people go through and still experience. i feel like when it comes to minorities we have tried to have a competition to out-oppress one another.
Exactly.
The thing about these “asks” of, “Hey are you gonna talk about Kyrie, Kanye, or Dave?” - is that some of them are in bad faith. And it all gets segmented into various categories. You got your weird, anti-black left-leaning folks who wanna test your politic and see if you’re one of the “good blacks”, and if you’re not they’re gonna try to skewer you. You also got your left-leaning folks who want you to “sic’ em” to the “bad black conservatives” - so they’re still anti-black and fucked. Then you got the right-leaning folks who either a. Want to see if you side with them on anti-semitism or b. Watch the left fight itself into oblivion if you say something that pisses the lefties off. I mean all of it is a weird space to be in as a black leftuber and it just speaks to more acrobatics that black folks have to do in imperialist, white supremacist, capitalist patriarchy (rip bell - real one).
All this to say…you did an excellent and lovely job at outlining the precarity of the situation your in while reaffirming your politic, especially since you recognize your importance to get your content in front of younger black folks, young boys and men in particular, as a form of education and prevention. Hats off to you.
As a Jew, the transparently disingenuous shit I see from white racists infuriates me. They think we don't see the replacement theory shit coming out of the other side of their mouth when they feign righteous indignation about Kyrie or Kanye - nah we don't want their defense and we're not cosigning their racist views just because they spend a couple days pretending to care about antisemitism...especially when it's only as a way to perpetuate bigotry towards black people. They can go to kapos like Ben Shapiro for validation
I reallu enjoyed this video for two reasons. 1. I had been wondering for a while why there seemed to be so many black conservative mouthpieces than ever before. I think your answer makes a lot of sense.
2. I had been seeing Tiktoks suggesting that people refusing to speak on Kanye and Kyrie were essentially consigning their statements. I hadn't said anything about it because I realized to Kanye (and by extension most black conservatives) a pile of "woke white people" to fingerwaging at them that they can clip and ship is a godsend. I have actually caught myself thinking "if this dude wouldn't listen to F D Signifier why would they listen me" multiple times. I think no matter how careful and well intentioned White Leftists try to be we need to realize that Sneako and Fresh and Fit fans are not going to have their minds changed by getting epically owned in the marketplace of ideas.
It’s funny what you have to say about the Black Left, considering that I just found out what Duboisian sociology was. I still don’t know how Dubois doesn’t have his own little sub section of socialism the way other greats do. (Marxism, Stalinism, Maoism, Trotskyism) like Dubois founded the NAACP, First black man to graduate from Harvard with a PHD, attended the founding convention of the United Nations, legitimately has whole texts dedicated to black people’s struggles in American society on such a level that it’s a disgrace that we don’t know the impact of this man.
Hey FD, I don't know if you'll see this or it but, I sent you an email. This is an important topic so thank you for recognizing that the issue is multifaceted and it'd be best to approach it with different Jewish perspectives also in mind. The introspection and self-awareness you display really makes you stand out. Building genuine understanding between communities through a dialogue that's massively accessible is a positive contribution to this world. I look forward to the video whenever it comes out.
The nuance of your analysis is, as ever, laser-sharp and expertly conveyed. An educator indeed.
Thank you uncle FD, as a non-black I find it's hard to go against the black conservative argument and I no one ever mention this out
I appreciate you talking about how being an influencer needs to be examined carefully - I’m not sure I ever questioned that before
Been rocking with ya since your video on why white men love edgelord movies, the evolution has been stellar. Seeing that "Black Media Breakdown" clip had me feeling a bit nostalgic lol.
As someone that spent some time as a teacher and coach: it totally gets annoying being asked about something that's going on right now in the zeitgeist. As a person with more knowledge to express there are some times other things that are more important in the right now for them to learn. Also sometimes the wisdom comes from sitting with a topic and thinking and making sure you understand the context; especially something that has a bigger life like a TH-cam video then an interpersonal one-on-one moment.
At the end of the day I really appreciate two really big things about every video you produce.
1. Even in your hottest takes you could feel the wisdom and thoughtfulness about your point of view and the topic you're covering.
2. You talk openly about how you get to conclusions. It's easy for someone to come up with a point of view and make it unassailable but it's so much more powerful you showing us the bricks that you start building with.
And while you have good reason not to feel comfortable in the structures: you are putting deep wisdom seeds into minds very hungry for information that doesn't make sense from the perspective no one else is talking about loud enough.
Ever since you're various manosphere videos I have not been able to touch a single comedy podcast because I hear the deeper manosphere implications of what informs that comedy. Conversations with other men have turned into "why are you so serious" because there is something rotten in Denmark. And I appreciate this new space in which I live accepting accountability but at a loss sometimes of what the next steps in understanding are. Love the videos love seeing the process and thank you for having good tough conversations
Wait, as someone in the US, what is going on in Denmark? You don't have to explain. I'm perfectly fine with any videos or articles you can point out to me. Thank you!
@@annoyedbyyourface something rotten in Denmark is a Shakespeare quote. It usually means that something underneath the surface of a situation is not quite fully visible. In the same way they video enlightens topics to an audience that has no clue that certain things are amiss or different than what I previously thought.
Thank you for getting more granular about this. It will always be complicated to have any intra-community conversations with outside eyes on, especially when there are multiple identities involved. Black Jewish people, like writer and culinary historian Michael Twitty and theoretical physicist Chanda Prescod-Weinstein have been doing a good job of talking about antisemitism they're experiencing, and why Kanye and Kyrie are severely out of pocket coming out with these fringe weird ideas.
those are two great voices. as a very white jewish person, this situation is difficult because anti-Black racism and Ashkenormativity are very real things and I do not deny those experiences. F.D. makes great points and I hope he looks into the writings of Black Jews to understand that perspective on the issue as he continues researching.
Just realized that my editor put Toure' instead kd Kwame Ture...🫠
Please do a sequel on that, it’s really tiring to see bad takes by non black people on Kanye’s state and the larger politics behind his antisemitism. Huge fan of your work ❤
It's very interesting to me ( as a non american) that you pointed out bell hooks as the most known of all of them. Angela Davis is in the history books where I am from, alongside Malcolm X, Dubois, and Martin Luther King. I remember watching her interviews in class. Shamefully, I did not here about bell hooks till my early 20s ( in a Kim Foster video).
Dude I am so happy you talked about the Noah and Xina stuff. I watched all the videos related and couldn't tell if she and her audience missed the point or if they blatantly ignored it to pull the whole, "white man criticize me means he's racist" shit. I bothers me a lot when I see people do that shit. Imo I assume it probably makes racist people feel validated. But at the same time I saw it coming a mile away. And it really is a weird place to be on the side lines watching it like, damn he not really wrong. But engaging and defending the stance would open up the opportunity to group you in with their negative connotations.
You have a Mexican viewer here, I enjoy watching your content to learn and to be able to understand my black friends and to be able to hear them out, I just hope one day that I can have these types of conversations with my own people
My union apprenticeship included labor history and somehow they avoided all mentions of socialism let alone black socialism. They championed Eugene Debs even but refused to say what party he ran for haha
Thank you for continuing to be a voice of thoughtfulness.
The algorithms are elevating all the weird segments of our society and it's scary.
I think there have always been plenty of black Americans (men mostly)who broader white Americans consider a part of the liberal/left spectrum but are actually nationalist/conservatives who don’t like other groups or black women and if it weren’t for white racism would be Republican voters. The reason they generally don’t get called out more is because it doesn’t really matter what they think because they don’t have any power or anyone listening to them in power. It’s hard enough getting someone to advocate for the black community in government, let alone implement like a Holocaust on behalf of a few mostly non-voting hotep dudes. Whereas white bigots are winked at constantly by their representatives even if their more extreme policies aren’t an imminent threat. What’s tough about the Ye and Kyrie situation is just that their profiles are so high, that it’s unavoidable. You sort of have to take a position on it. And you have a lot of people coming out to say, @yes, I feel this way too. They’ve said nothing wrong!” And it becomes like the altright where a small share of the actual population seems huge, or like larger numbers of people secretly agree with them, and that can have real world consequences. In the case of the altright, they had the president of the United States afraid to offend them because he considered them his base (and might actually agree with them). If black people are incorrectly seen as being pro-Holocaust they aren’t going to be listened to by those in power the same way. They will be targeted though.
It’s so interesting what you said about these conservative black influencers targeting white audiences. I noticed my feed has been cluttered with these people in my suggested videos. Super creepy. I never watch or like the videos but they keep popping up!
What I find to be missing from the convos about black antisemitism is the fact that many (most?) Jewish people in the US also have white privilege, and have a hand to play in American anti-blackness because of that, presently and historically. But that's about white supremacy, not Judaism, so it also doesn't justify any amount of antisemitism. Yet the algorithm (and white supremacy) doesn't permit the subtleties and healing of that conversation.
Yes. An analogy I think is useful to talk about antisemitism would be the following: an abusive teacher (white supremacy and capitalism) is constantly giving unfairly bad grades to his students. But the students are done with this and they wanna start a rebellion and organize together to get the teacher fired. So the abusive teacher picks a favorite student in the classroom (Jewish people) to encourage all the other kids to bully the favorite student cause he's perceived a bootlicker... but all this time the teacher is the one giving them unfair grades. Now people are not mad at the teacher anymore cause they're too focused on hating and resenting that "teacher's pet" student and bullying him. It appears that the teacher is treating that kid better (for example when ADIDAS or other white capitalists seems to performatively condemn antisemitism very loudly, while they never care about antiBlackness), but really he's not helping that kid by doing that: he's actually feeding him to the other kids anger and basically treating him as a scapegoat. And the other kids think they're "going against the unfair system" by hating on that kid, but they're really just letting the system manipulate them. Now the only way this cycle can be broken is if the "teacher's pet" REFUSES to be a bootlicker (if Jewish people refuse to side with white supremacy and capitalism, and unite together with the other minorities to fight the system), and if the rest of the kids REFUSE to be played into bullying that one kid, and all working class people of color unite against white supremacy and capitalism.
@@Yryyyys YES! Antisemitism most potent trait that aids Capital is that it serves a pseudo-emancipatory sentiment, at the end protecting capital. Jews thus become a buffer zone, a scapegoat, a convenient and defined point of fixation to represent 'the evils of Capital' in lieu of a systemic proper critique of capitalism and white supremacy.
For the algorithm. Always appreciate your nuanced thoughts
I used to not fully understand the depth of why you mentioned the algorithm as much as you do until I started reading Race after Technology, now I'm seeing it everywhere.
And I was watching that Noah situation like 👀 he's right but we know where this is going
hands down, you've been the best teacher on these subjects and sometimes that is a tough burden to have. your stuff holds up even years later and i feel it is because of how well you analyze it from all these viewpoints.
There's already 2 hours of Kanye on your channel and if folks actually paid attention it was very clearly implied that this new chapter of Kanye was inevitable anyways so I'm not sure what people expect from you. Maybe you can upload a youtube short Kanye pt 3 that's just "Yep...Told you this was coming...Peace" and that's it: just 15 seconds.
Oh man, hearing that you're talking to Lady Knight the Brave is super exciting, that's such a great mix of worthwhile thinkers!
I feel like often minorities are held to task for/ asked to speak on the bad behavior of other people in their community. While it’s important to speak out it can be tiring to feel like you have to refute every bad actor. As a Jewish viewer I agree that the attention should be going to larger figures spreading antisemitism in a much more mainstream and insidious way.
Yea it's not FDs responsibility to respond, that would be like a litmus test for black people to ask them to condemn them. I have also seen a lot of black creators respond excellently to them and refute everything the said and am grateful to them but it's not their responsibility to answer for people who happen to also be black but have nothing to do with them.
I am a Jew and a follower and avid watcher of yours. Many in my community are wondering what to make of the recent controversies and how the black community is feeling. After several violent incidents recently we are scared.
How can black people "oppress" Jews? You guys are rich white people. PLEASE explain what you are scared of. You guys went through a decade of oppression. We have been oppressed for 400 years. I genuinely want to know- how can blacks be racist against Jews? You guys are literally at the top of the economic hierarchy. You have to have power to oppress others. Black people have no power, as has been demonstrated by Kanye and Kyrie losing everything.
Heyyyy Jason!!! I can’t speak for the entire community. I can only speak for myself and my household. I feel as though, the backlash people like Kanye and Kylie are getting for being “anti semitic” is warranted. I just wish that the same backlash was handed out when people like Kanye are being anti black. He lost nothing when he said those things about Harriet Tubman and about slavery being a choice. I just wish the punishment was balanced. Not saying that he should not have consequences at all, you feel me?
@@ChocolateThaiE oh god, I forgot kanye said that shit back then bruh
@@ChocolateThaiE 100%. Kanye should have been facing consequences long ago.
At the end of the day Kanye is still a millionaire who's going to get by just fine. The propagation of his beliefs is what we're afraid of, and the backlash may not have done anything to prevent that. It may have actually made it more effective. The fear in my community is that these ideas are being promoted and accepted by larger and larger quantities.
Retribution against Kanye is warranted justice, but the reach of his influence is something that feels unknown.
@@Jason-ym6jl I agree. Crazy thing is, what your community is feeling right now is how I am many people in mine have always felt. So I totally get how y’all are feeling. I feel that our communities should be working more together, but that won’t happen. There are deep seeded issues between American blacks (it’s crazy that i even have to clarify that, right? lol) and white Jews. That’s the issue that a lot of people don’t wanna talk about.
James Baldwin is my personal favorite, he was so unapologetic about his intellect, while running circles around those who thought less of us, as a race, while deeming themselves superiors.
Also Nikki Giovanni too!!!
James & Nikki conversing is a must watch!
Baldwin is 1 of my fave authors of all time, & deserves his place among the greats of American literature, not just African American literature as he's often portrayed. Yes, he spoke & wrote about race, but his books are about so much more than that & should be read as literature. The richness of his characters really helps students recognize universal aspects of humanity & understand how people from all walks of life experience different versions of the same major challenges & questions we all face
@@scarletsletter4466 that is very true, as well.
Okay but you know Baldwin was like... wildly, virulently, and very proudly antisemitic though, right.
@@juliamuffinmonster1838 I haven't read everything Baldwin ever wrote but I did read a lot and no, that's just not true. If you're thinking of the NYT article "black people are antisemitic because they're anti-white", read it again.
@@Suzanne4415 I've read it multiple times. It perpetuates many, many antisemitic tropes about Jews and their relationship to power. It also explicitly ignores or dismisses Jewish history, the traumas they've gone through as a community, and then takes those whose trauma response was to buy into or perpetuate racial inequality as indicative of an entire group of people rather than viewing Jewish people as the diverse, complex community with many different interests that they are (and a community that includes and has always included Black people, another thing he pointedly ignores and glosses over). He reduces their humanity and then justifies it by claiming that a few representatives from a group that includes millions of people reduced his.
Before the 1970's when there was a huge influx of Asian immigrants to America, white Jewish people were the original "model minority". What Baldwin's describing in this piece is the trap of the model minority. And like Asians, Jewish people faced (and continue to face) huge amounts of violence in spite of their relative "protection". It's important to remember when he's writing this - this was published in 1967 based on his childhood experiences in the 1930's and 1940's, a time in America (and New York City, where he's growing up and experiencing these things) where there are literal Nazi rallies in Madison Square Garden and armed gangs of Christian nationalists roaming the streets and attempting to infiltrate and overthrow the US government because they think FDR is a Jew and are opposed to America entering the war because they don't want Americans dying to protect Jewish people. There is a literal Holocaust. While he's writing this, the Klan in the South is still regularly perpetuating antisemitic attacks against Southern Jews by bombing synagogues along with Black churches, a thing they'll continue to do for decades after Baldwin's piece. They'll do this, ironically, not only because they just hate Jewish people but because of the Jewish community's perceived sympathy towards the Black community and continued support of the Civil Rights movement. Jew's perceived progressiveness and sympathy towards minority communities is still one of the most prevalent reasons for antisemitic violence, a necessary component to the Great Replacement theory, and the stated motivation of the Pittsburgh Tree of Life shooter which was like three years ago. A huge part of antisemitism both then and today is putting American Jews in this bind, where they're viewed as suspicious and other, not really progressives by the progressive community and as progressive secret agents by conservatives, protected by no one and deserving of the violence that happens to us by always being part of whatever you view as the other side.
James Baldwin spends the entire piece basically legitimizing and codifying this social order. In his view, Jews are always and solely concerned with money. He's like "oh, I don't know if Jews control the government, but SOME PEOPLE say they do", which is a pretty naked dog whistle. He makes bonkers claims like that Jews were "welcomed" in America as opposed to Black people. He finds it impossible to believe that American Jews having a long history of supporting the Black community and championing Black causes even while knowing it meant taking on enormous risk to their personal safety could ever possibly be in good faith - surely because they're Jews and a lot of them have white skin, that means they're buying Black people's silence. He ignores the fact that there are and have always been Black Jewish people. He blames Jews as a monolith for being part of a system of white supremacy that they didn't create and have suffered enormously at the hands of, while ignoring that many Black people have attempted to make the exact same respectability for protection bargain many Jews have made because again, minority communities are diverse and complex. And he does all of this while it would be absolutely impossible for him to not know that by doing it, he's legitimizing an ideologies that were used then and are still used today used as justification for murdering Jewish people. That's antisemitism. If you don't read that as antisemitism, then I really can't help you.
I appreciate your willingness to critically think about what you're presenting to the public.
It’s so funny you mentioned Noah because my thoughts were “why is he talking about this black girl?” I know he’s apart of the crew but it didn’t feel right. But if it was a black woman calling her out I wouldn’t have felt this way because I know that race and gender dynamics aren’t a factor. I’m so use to defending and feeling protective over black women when (especially white men) people come for us. Nothing against Noah (he has great videos and I actually agree with him because she was spewing nonsense) but my initial reaction was to defend her. Just being honest.
I'm a black leftist and I actually agree with that girl. I think it's time we had our own characters. I don't see how that is a trash take? So we are supposed to keep swapping races with every damn white character from the past? I honestly think y'all are putting your politics ABOVE the issue here. So what the girl is not politically aligned with us....she raises an interesting point. I'm standing with the black girl on this....
I became a Noah subbie after her response video to him. I never stood with her.
I hadn't thought about how much you perceive your role on TH-cam thats a hard thing to have to work with. I am thankful for your content because you've become one of my favorite TH-camrs in a very short amount of time and my algorithm has improved in my opinion because you've recommend other channels and they have recommend other channels and I feel at the very least more challenged and wanting to keep my mind open and available for multiple topics being exposed to people TH-cam would have never sent me to.
Wow, I don't know why that simple reframing got to me:
Anti-blackness is the default. Not just the norm, but the DEFAULT SETTING in our society.
I would love to hear your opinion on the Falcon and the Winter soldier series. Keep up the great work!
I was gonna write a comment disagreeing with the reason why I enjoy watching your content. But after some serious deep thought you are sort of correct. The reason I subscribed and I watch your stuff on the regular is because you like Breaking Benjamin. If you did not like Breaking Benjamin I would not have subscribed for as long as i have.
We're polyamerous friends
Careful, they may get you in a mess of trouble again.
I always appreciate how you critique people's arguments, not their identities.
I my a white guy living in the Midwest with minimal context to a lot of the issues that you talk about - a lot of the time, it's stuff I didn't even know I needed more context to. I appreciate the amount of time you put into teaching people about things they might not understand in a kind way that makes them open to hearing about it. You've done me some good 😂
Commenting for the algorithm and also because commenting is good
Imo, talking about conservative conspiracy theories and how they target and impact Indigenous Americans and Jewish people would probably be a more useful conversation...than Kanye or any one individual.
I'm glad your waiting to make content on this, because as time goes on it seems things will only get worse for them and I want to see where they end up at the end of all this craziness.
I generally agree with his hesitancy to speak on the Kyrie/Kanye stuff. But it’s kinda strange that nearly no prominent blk ppl have come out against them. And Chappelle very publicly co-signed Kyrie’s actions. It’s fucked up and goes against the solidarity we need. Fred Hampton said it best ‘We don’t hate the White mofo, we hate the oppressor, whether he be white, blk, green, brown, or yellow’. Condemn, move on, and build.
Why do we have to speak out? Black people are at the bottom of the totem pole. Jews are at the very top. They don't need us to defend them. Jews have the power to punish black people who step out of line which they did swiftly and effectively. They have already punished Kanye and Kyrie what else do you want?
Black people are learning really quickly how white people work.
White people center themselves and demand everyone else's solidarity, but do not give it on return.
This is why white jews weaponize antisemitism in their own defense even though they are not semitic.
Why is it that you don't hear white jews condemning the antisemitism against black jews in Israel or in the US, or the antisemitism against Palestinians?
Black people understand that this cynical weaponization of antisemitism against black people is just white people engaging in covert racism.
Dave never publicly co-signed anything.
Silence on either end is the safest option.
what did he do ?
“several layers of anti-Blackness down” at 26:05 or so, that is a great way to describe that sense. Like an “anti-Blackness radar” I have cobbled together inside myself by watching content like this
Your points about Noah Samson's video about Patience Xina is EXACTLY why I blocked her channel; people like her cannot be reasoned with!
And I stumbled upon her channel before Noah even made his video about her!
Im a white man who enjoys your content and also listens to Destiny (we aren't all toxic), and who's best friend is a Hebrew Israelite. And most of my friends are pro Kyrie and Kanye. I don't want to see you dunk on anyone, or go bloodsports. Im here for the nuance. And I'm excited for the video.
I agree with you that overall black conservatives are not as big as white conservatives. But I do see at least in my personal circle more and more people leaning right especially young people. I do try and push your content more because the algorithm won't. But one thing I hear more to them often is that they think there's truth in the ideologies of Kanye and Kyrie because the white establishment won't let anyone talk about it.
While it should never be your responsibility to speak on this I do know that it will do a lot of good.
Continue your work. Stay strong and I hope for growth in both your channel and your personal life
I had a Matt Walsh video recommended to me and I flipped the fuck out….had a whole conversation with my phone like “excuuuuuse me??”
Hearing the Black Hammer shout-out was wild, I had no idea people were still talking about them. One of my best friends used to be a member, quit, and then was one of the people who started organizing against them after she saw how badly they had treated other members.
While not a leftist theorist, Gill Scott-Heron was someone who could speak to the working class about those types of ideas. But they’re still little known today.
The way I've heard it best framed is that anti-blackness and antisemitism use the same methods in oppression and stereotyping. Understanding antisemitism can give you great insight into understanding anti-blackness even more.
I would disagree with that. Anti black racism and antisemitism function very differently and have different histories. Antisemitism is inherently genocidal in a way no other oppression is. Anti black racism degrades it's subjects in a way that no other form of oppression does. They have different outcomes, and also, antisemitism isn't racism. It's its own thing.
@Chana Understanding one oppression on a macro scale helps you understand all oppression. Also anti-blackness on a global scale has resulted in genocide in some parts of the world. I am not arguing that they have similar "histories," but the strategies and methods used to oppress are similar.
@@chana7276 AntiBlackness is inherently genocidal.
At least imo, I’m not looking for you to be making videos for white people. I engage with your material in the same way I engage with say, Kat Blaque’s videos. She makes videos explaining being trans, polyamorous, into BDSM, Blackness, etc. and (mostly) discussed issues publicly that are in-community conversations - conversations I wouldn’t ever, ever be in the room for. But being a fly on the wall of those conversations a. broadens my understanding of people I don’t have the opportunity to meet in in real life but, and more importantly, b. allows me to grasp nuance of something so outside of my personal understanding of reality because the conversation isn’t tailored to me.
So yeah, I love your channel, vibes, etc. because it is hugely valuable & appreciated.
That's good you're open-minded.
Im really glad i found your channel. Its like i found the door to the library.
Black Hammer seems important culturally, not for what it is but just as one of the uncountable examples of the way cults work and draw folk in (esp. young people).
Most people think they’re something wacky like the popular conceptions of Heaven’s Gate or the Manson Family-and they may be. But cults can also be all sorts of stuff people aren’t looking out for.
Black Hammer isn’t as large as Scientology, NXIVM, or Grassroots Campaigns Inc., but in a lot of ways it didn’t get enough attention for what it really was and how it was really exploiting people versus reacting to whatever latest antics were to pull in more attention.
It seems worthwhile to investigate cults of various kinds because they don’t only prey on stupid, gullible, or desperate people, and we’re all stupid, gullible, and desperate some of the time.
Thank you for your perspective, I really value your insight into the amplification of voices that shouldn’t be amplified, and the perspectives you brought me with regards to the discussions surrounding black conservatism . As a (half) white male in my early thirties, I have struggled to understand why black people would work with the Republican Party at all, as it seems that racism is inextricably linked to conservative beliefs. I look forward to learning more from your videos, and am glad I came across your channel. You’re doing great work, and honestly I could listen to you talk for hours. Thank you from upstate NY!!
And I also recommend reading Ella Shohat's (an Iraqi Jewish woman) very short and very interesting essay "Zionism from the standpoint of its Jewish victims". You can find it online easily
I really appreciate your videos. Before I found your channel I was regularly exhausted by trying to explain my thoughts on certains now I can show your videos to open up dialogue with my brothers and white co workers. Your video help me to sus out folks that aren’t going to benefit me or my family thank you sir✊🏾
The bisexual lighting on “breadtuber” was just *chefs kiss*
Love the way you think through issues in a constructive manner. Keep up the good fight.
Whew brother… the way MLK was turned into an animated Disney character is crazy. I, myself, didn’t learn about his views on the American economic landscape and Universal Basic Income until high school. Afterwards, I went to one of the top universities in the world and I don’t think Black Liberal revolutionaries from the mid 20th century were discussed in my core coursework the entire time I was working on my degree.
Yessss you finally got your audio together.
Purely by accident I promise
I personally hate the "You Should Say Something" mindset people give, because that usually means "You Should Apologize on Behalf Of This Person" and that sentiment is stupid. Unless you contribute to that person's actions then you don't have anything to apologize for. You're not Kanye or Kyrie's dad, Kat Blaque isn't Jessica Yaniv's mom, and George Takei isn't Kevin Spacey's dad. Don't expect apologies from conservatives who've influenced shooters.
For the algorithm 🤙🏻
Thank you for always sharing such honesty and thoughtful takes on the chaos out there F.D.
Hell yes. I'm here to hear you & Black voices, not see myself centered again. I'm sorry there's even that pressure to center whiteness. As always, very much appreciate your thoughts here & look forward to your video & other viewpoints 🌸
I just want everyone to feel safe and be happy.
As someone who is on the path to get a PhD in sociology whatever videos you make, I love. Your analytic perspectives are fantastic and teach me how to continue to look through that analytic lens. Leftism, media, you name it any subject you got great vision, and it keeps me inspired to keep doing what I wanna do.
It’s really reminding me of the live that Kat Blaque just had about having to answer for “bad trans people”
Finally someone who doesn’t make the background music so loud you can’t understand them. Dope video.