1. Thank you for the vlog; Coach Rhulani did well, and he took us to the next level. I did not mind him staying another season. 2. Yes I am disappointed that we did not win the CL, I don’t think that many other sundowns fans have an obsession as you mentioned it. 3. I think he did not fight enough to stay at Sundowns , if now he wants to go coach in North Africa he will need a more thick skin as there will be far worse things than he faced with us 4. Where you guys happy with his playing style, I personally feel that our playing style has deteriorated under his watch, and we play boring football; playing not to lose. I feel that in this vlog you have not addressed, as this could have contributed to him leaving. 5. The bar was high when Pitso left, I believe the next coach will take us higher, perhaps win the CL, perhaps bring a different style of play that is exciting yet dominant. We have a template of winning the league and I am not worried about and I recommend we move forward and support the club in decision that they have made
@@RaulJiminez-rd5eq i never said that, possession football i still prefer, ours was not progressive, we played too much in our half and too much backward passes. if you look at how Spain is playing now that i what we need - it is progressive
@@RaulJiminez-rd5eq To what end should we play beautiful football without winning. I think one must adapt and evolve and with all due respect RM failed to adapt to win anything beyond the league
We might not know what really transpired between the powers that be at Sundowns and our favourite coach Rulani. At this particular juncture I’m afraid we are not going to be patient with Rulani’s successor. Rulani is a genius and will remain one for a very long time.
I was also disappointed in how it happened and obviously hurt for losing the coach but after listening to the views of the fans in the twitter space last night....I fully understand the club's decision..
Rhulani did well,he deserved a last season to try and get the champions League, I agree that if the next coach loses 2 games then they would have failed ,no treble and no caf final that's a failure,no 9 players at bafana thats a failure,chiefs fired a coach for finishing 2nd and they have been struggling for almost a decade, how many champions League does psg have with their players,what identity are we willing to settle for when playing interference interference interference has came back to haunt us,we are now going to scrape for crumbs because of a foreigner who doesn't love us,the firing of the coach is to line up their fave to get exposure at club world cup,Rhulani loved this team and my heart bleeds and im angry and forgive the sundowns board,i see another dobsonville incident loading soon😢😢😢
I honestly believe our coach reached his limit last session, He did not win a single game of consequence ( 0 win in CAF knock out stage, lost both finals, lost the last game of the league to becoming invisible) We can't celebrate winning games without winning trophies. History only remembers the trophy winner, not the style or the number of games won. Only trophies make you a big team. 12 years later, we are still behind kaizer Chief. Winning trophies is the bottom line. Doing it in style is an added benefit
It's saddening, however personally not surprising. Football is business. It is high time everyone involved realizes that. Rulani must learn from his lows and grow his reputation. He has potential but for me he reached plateau at Sundowns. This is his opportunity to develop himself and come back stronger
Make no mistake, we loved Rhulani and we loved him dearly for what he has achieved in the club, the fact that he’s released doesn’t make him a bad coach or that Flemming as a SD is a bad guy, please Tlotlo make your little brother to understand…
Hello Guys; I wanted Khentse on this one because he was emotional after we lost Nedbank cup.He was saying if we have to get another Coach let it be.I wonder what Khentse is thinking now is happy Rulani is gone.
@nompilomabaso5455 but Sundowns goal is not MTN8 or Nedbank Cup.if it was CAF .The time we lost again Esperance then we were supposed to start singing that sing of the coach must go.
Khensani is an honest man, I remember when he talked about Safranko and Mendieta you can tell that this man is for Sundowns not individuals, now the guys are being emotional because they loved Rhulani... I also wanted Khense so bad that guy is brutally honest and doesn't sugarcoat.
We were singing about Rulani even in the last game of the season after losing Nedbank. Majority of the fans didn't want Rulani gone. Yes we do want to win CAFCL but this decision is on management not the fans
You guys are allowing your love for Coach Rhulani to overcloud his performance as Head Coach.He clearly did not meet the objectives & a decision had to be made.Let’s rally behind the team & stop being divisive.👆👆🙏🏿🙏🏿
We need to get out of our comfort zone if we need to develop and grow this brand and club, so said Flemming Berg in one of his interviews when he arrived at the club…
Sundowns is not a mediocre team. The investments that sundowns put indicates that they have a clear vision to conquer Africa and be ranked with teams like Al Ahly...If you do not meet the targets then you are not delivering throughout your stint then you likely to leave. Al ahly chase coaches away like nobody business especially if they fail to deliver. Sundowns is moving differently now!
Me I'm glad the guy is out because we were starting to celebrate records not trophies and the fact that the club is divided saying a lot about himself. We are not going to be hold hostage by one person. The guy was not fit to coach Sundowns, he literally said "give me 4 years to win CCL" while in the semifinals. Bro said he was tired.
Sundowns wants to win the Champions league and do well in the CWC in the new season. Coach Rulani lost most of important games and won the league and AFL was not good enough for big investments by the club. Good is not good enough for Mamelodi Sundowns. The disagreements between coach rulani and Fleming Berg on the transfers was the ceiling point and motivated the separation. We need to support the new coach just like we did with Rulani and hope for great things for the new season.
I think we have fallen to the opposition's mind games. They are trying to put us under pressure by under playing the achievements we are having while they, themselves are far away from reaching the level we are in now. I haven't heard a convincing explanation that is worth demolishing the success that we have built so had over years . This is the worst ever mistake that sundowns has ever committed. Our fans mustn't be carried away and think that losing a football match is a sin, or winning titles is a God given Right, no. What if the next coach will need a season or two to get the ball rolling? Are we prepared to go a season without a trophy while the coach is still adjusting ? Have we forgotten where we are coming from, changing all the best European coaches without success? I think as the supporters of this club, we need to understand the thinking behind this move from whoever came with it and how is it gonna benefit the club going forward. 😭😭😭
😊, I remember when you guys used to defend his chamilion mediocrity, I'm not surprised with the decision taken by Flemingburg... He should have continued with the Dimond system but unfortunately for him he loves to be the smart guy. I wish him all the best overseas
The most frustrating matter is that nothing was discussed with us as fans, Mamelodi Sundowns is us. We come first. Everything that happened from the office to the fans I feel as if they threw us with a hand grenade and expect us to survive after that. 😡
Pirates is happy they won't have to Bribe referees anymore, Steve Khompela will give them the victories.. Rhulani does not buy face, he Hit Pirates and Chiefs so hard they plotted for his removal... Rhulani is a Beast, African Continent Teams Defended 90mins fearing this Lion
Remember how Rhulani Transformde Aubrey Modiba, bringing him inside to attac and deffend from within and outside.. Black Excellence is Rhulani Mokwena... Take a BOW! when Khuliso Mudau was signed I was so negative coz Khuliso did not now how to football, But Rhulani surprised us and Blew the whole Africa away.. Tebogo Mokoena from an Ordinary midfielder to a Global Sensation... What has Steve Khompela achieved??? what a Joke
Even If you don't win ccl next coach we don't care even if you can loose three or four games but three or two domestic cups and AFL it'll be enough to our team next season That's our target we're a big team guys we are getting serious now and coach Rulani knows that surely
I respect your opinion guys, but I also think you honestly lack understanding direction Sundowns has adopted. Motsepe once said he wants Sundowns to conquer Africa. He has invested towards that. Coach therefore must live up to expectation. Number of wins to lift PSL is irrelevant, when it becomes the only cup you win. With this mediocrity there was no prospect of Sundowns defending AFL cup.
Can i ask what conquering Africa mean? Does it mean Downs should win ACL every season or more often? I am asking this question as a neutral person ( not Downs supporter ) My own interpretation of what Mr Motsepe wished is what is currently happening to Downs. Be always present in the competition and them reaching top 4 2 seasons in a row should be commanded. It remains to be seen what happens going forward as far as th3 new technical team is concerned. What would be the mendate and time frame to achieve it.
I appreciate the engagement. I wouldn't be able to give the interpretation of Sundowns' meaning of "conquering." However, the fact that they dismissed him indicates to me that he underperformed. My own interpretation wouldn't be merely making it to the semis but win at least twice out of 5. This thing has been there for taking for the past two seasons.
@@matolengwemakongwana3132 okay i hear your side Bro but my follow up question to you will be: As things stand, the new coach should come and be given a chance or the same expectations should apply?
@@sydneymaswanganyi You’re wrong, conquering Africa doesn’t mean winning the league 7 times but means to compete in the continent and be counted amongst the top teams which obviously means winning the champions league…
In all honesty guys you are being emotional about this thing. The worst thing is that you are also planting seeds to the fans to be somehow towards the management of the team instead of supporting the team. Give the team the benefit of the doubt and try to investigate what might be going on. A good example is when it comes to the targets. You are saying the coach comes and losses 2 games beginning of the season that's a failer even though the he might go on to win the league. He might win the league and add cups. You are calling the SD a cancer because you don't like his decisions even though the club is with him. You love and support European clubs but you know very well their role and responsibilities in those clubs. The club is trying to do something but these type of sentiments don't really help because you are a platform with a voice that can encourage discernt when its not even necessary. We can try and wait to see what the SD is trying to do. Even if you know Sundowns ground/core fans as you say, the club has the final say. This guy is here to also elevate the team. There's this other podcast i was watching that was talking about some of the reasons the SD and coach Rulani didn't get along. Some of these things include what the team can be doing to reach greater heights that we were not reaching. Can we please be supporters of the club, not people working for the club. Sundowns wants to have more than 1 CCL and complete with the African joints with trophies won. We can't be saying the club can't want that because we have 1 title.
But if Diamond System was the best ever System played at Sundowns history Why would you as a coach change that and go to a System that downgraded your performances 🤔 Rulani had support guys but he got obsessed with useless things that cost us finals we need to be honest as we praise his best contribution to the club
Correct member Rulani made mistake by changing that diamond, Shalulile was so dangerous but wen he played his back pass football Sundowns was so predictable we started struggling to win matches
I think you are left behind as supporters, we need to catch uo on the club’s vision and model otherwise you will always say we’re not entitled to win the champions league as if the Ahly and WAC of this world are entitled to do so, you’re failing us our Fan Block😊
Let's hope for the best gents, we lost a great coach. I hope we'll come back stronger. No sober coach will take this job, this is a trap. How do you come and beat Rulani's record and style of play? Let's see...
😂😂😂😂 this sounds like a joke for me. I am a Sundowns fan since 1994. Yes, I know I'm young. I am a fan of Rulani as well and my love for Rulani remains. I strongly disagree with this insinuation of making individuals bigger than Sundowns brand. Sundowns has all the right to increase the bar inline with their budget. You go big or go home. We have been with Sundowns before Motsepe family and it was competitive. Go and consult history. We are going to get champions league very soon
We are going to pay school fees for this decision but I don't think we can fail to win PSL this coming season. The records set by Rulani will not be broken anytime soon because the competition is going to be tough this coming season. I would like Mamelodi Sundowns to keep Coach Manqoba even if they decide to hire a new Head Coach. Mamelodi Sundowns Supporters must also try to improve attendance because I feel we do not impose intimidation in our opponents in League or CCL home games. This is how the North African giants dominate CAF tournaments.
Guys i am happy for saying things as they are... personal i am not happy. If Rhulani did not have all the powers, why is he responsible for so called failure. The STD must be accountable as well.
Thank you Masadawana fan block. I was worried why you were not responding to the current affairs. Let me take this opportunity to thank our former coach for what he has done. Unfortunately he did not meet the major target for the team. I am one of those people who believe that coach Rulani was not going to win us the second star. Becuase of how we lost the current CAF championship compared to 2022/23. There was too much hope when we lost to Waydad that we are going to win the 2023/24. However we struggled to qualify for semi final and we could not even score in the semifinal. Added to the CAF failure was losing two finals to Orlando Pirates with the same coach is not palatable to me. We need the second star and we need a coach who will ensure we win the CAF championship league and compete at FIFA World Cup. We are now in the league with Al Ahly and we cannot give coaches 4 or 8 years without CAF stars.
Young Africans won the league ka 80points. There’s more that the PSL teams in South Africa 🇿🇦 can do. Sundowns started showing that it’s possible. Hoping the numbers go higher.
No need to tread carefully. Be yourselves. Support and criticise where necessary. We all have different views and nothing is ever personal. The important thing is to let people express themselves freely. And when you know what is brewing inside the camp put yourselves in the shoes of those who don't. Never be condescending based on knowledge that is not public
Right now we all emotional because we love coach Rhulani but I think You guys are missing the point. Coach Rhulanis target for 2024 were based on his achievements for 2023. Based on that there were no improvements in 2024. We can complain all we want but Coach Rhulani had targets and he didn't meet them. The targets for the upcoming coach might not necessarily be same as those for Rhulani. What I think we should be asking ourselves is what did the management do to support the Coach. Talking about records that did nt produce trophies is like a government official who praise his clean audit that did nothing to improve people's lives.
Kent's is not there bcs he s happy..he s 1 of those who says "Rhulan must go". I wish Rhulan must came back aftr 2/3 yrs.. whether we lv him or not he s d best nd no body Wll came closer....
Nna kere the Motsepe family should be held accountable. Why is it that they allow individuals to do as they please. They way Coach Pitso left and now Rhulani. Tlhopie even backed him on TV now he is quiet when Berg is doing all this nonsense. Nehh Motsepe wa re bolaya
Neo, my take is that we shouldn't be obsessed with breaking records. I don't believe that the season objectives include winning the league undefeated or achieving 100 points. The main goal should be to win the league and secure some domestic 'trophies, with at least reaching the CAF final, or winning two domestic trophies along with the CAF Champions League. Additionally, this should be achieved while the new coach maintains the Mamelodi Sundowns' possession-based style of play. Meeting these objectives will ensure job security
Guys, Guys, Guys......,stop being emotional about coach Rhulani 's departure. He failed period. He even said it himself in the press conference that the "investment doesn't equate the outcomes." So, he knew and acknowledged that he failed to reach his targets. Furthermore, he was becoming more arrogant, complacent and unprofessional. Being in the news for all the wrong reasons, fighting other coaches, tarnishing the image of the club. He was not only a "leader" but also the "face " of the club, therefore we expected him to always be beyond reproach verbally and behaviorally on the field. So, hands off SD...,he is doing his job. And again...,we should keep the coach because they can deliver the desired results not because they are young and naive. Sundowns is an ambitious club with huge ambitions We strive for excellence .
He is not a genius, he received Downs at top level and just maintained that.The mandate was to get a second star but he only gunned for league,Sundows have won the league previously,its monotonous.
So, you guys are saying Sundowns shouldn't judge a coach by Champions League, but we say we are competing with Al Ahly who judge their coaches by Champions League. Coach Rhulani failed to reach the finals of Champions League, and the other games in PSL do not matter even if we lose 8 games in the league, whether we won the league by less than 65 points does not matter, we want Champions League. Pep how many times did he reach the finals? Neo I think you are being emotionally about the whole thing. League can be won by Chiefs or Pirates it's ok, we want to win Champions League, a 2nd star is what we want not record points or 10 games unbeaten no, Champions League.
Pitso must reinstated to be HEAD coachof sundowns.i see him being the 1.... 3champions LEAGUE with Al ahhyi.hw is locally the best coach. Pitso Pitso Pitso Pitso MUST com get us forward with winning the CHAMPION LEAGUE. Motsepe is a champion MINDED person.thys why he spen so mch.Coach who ever comes at sundowns hv that mentality.too.
The next coach better walk on water 😤 As much as it hurts bottomline was there was a contract and what was agreed on was not met. Contra to this, the SD deresourced Rulani because he did not get him the players he wanted. That's why Pitso wanted full control to avoid these situations.
I am really disappointed. How could they let such a talented coach go . They should have done everything possible to retain Rhulani . He is undoubtedly the best coach we have ever had . Sundowns should not compromise their style of play , which has been successful. The team was closed to achieving an invincible status , winning the league seven times in a row and performing well in the African Football League. This decision seems very poorly thought out . I do not know all the reasons behind it , but I am skeptical that the team will continue to dominate the league next season . We will have to wait and see.
Neo o kwatile yong, you even said "How bar the high is!".😂 The news was really heartbreaking gents, I dont think we will ever get a better man manager than coach Rulani. And worst of all o tlo re ja ka Wydad mo Loftus 😢
Sometimes, we must be critical and not take an official statement as true just because we love the team and this goes to anything you associate yourself with. The official statement said the team lead him go because he failed to meet objectives. Why do you have to wait over 30 days after the coach's last game to know he did not meet the objectives? I don't believe the nonsense statement the team put out.
We have been Sundowns fans b4 Rulani and Sundowns has changed the best couches b4 Rulani, we had lot of good couches and lot of bad couches,as I like Rulani as a human and how much he loves Sundowns I think he was failing us specially wen it comes in those big matches, he was struggling,he was doing well in the league but but I think it's bcz he was playing against weak opponents, Sundowns saved him bcz the teams like Chiefs are changing a lot this time around
RHULANI was fired for lying to the media and fighting with that galaxy coach not result related unfortunately plus making big errors in critical games and he also tried to revamp our technical structures, influenced the firing of Jola
Mara Bafethu Coach Pitso uhamhe nabantu in the team, Musi Matlala, Rangopa and some people, so when people are leaving the team with coach is not a problem because they were his friends those people.
I just feel the club owe us a explanation as a sundowns fan the direction they are taking
On a serious note member we deserve a proper explanation as to why was he let go.
💔💔 Wishing coach Rulani the very best, Lord bless him abundantly.
1. Thank you for the vlog; Coach Rhulani did well, and he took us to the next level. I did not mind him staying another season.
2. Yes I am disappointed that we did not win the CL, I don’t think that many other sundowns fans have an obsession as you mentioned it.
3. I think he did not fight enough to stay at Sundowns , if now he wants to go coach in North Africa he will need a more thick skin as there will be far worse things than he faced with us
4. Where you guys happy with his playing style, I personally feel that our playing style has deteriorated under his watch, and we play boring football; playing not to lose. I feel that in this vlog you have not addressed, as this could have contributed to him leaving.
5. The bar was high when Pitso left, I believe the next coach will take us higher, perhaps win the CL, perhaps bring a different style of play that is exciting yet dominant. We have a template of winning the league and I am not worried about and I recommend we move forward and support the club in decision that they have made
You like helicopter football. Flemming would love you whereas us beautiful football lovers are very sad.
@@RaulJiminez-rd5eq i never said that, possession football i still prefer, ours was not progressive, we played too much in our half and too much backward passes. if you look at how Spain is playing now that i what we need - it is progressive
@@RaulJiminez-rd5eq To what end should we play beautiful football without winning. I think one must adapt and evolve and with all due respect RM failed to adapt to win anything beyond the league
I don't care who says what, I love caoch Rulani n m a stonch obsessed Fan of caoch Rulani, good luck coach
Me too. From now on i support coach Rulani than the team he coaches. The reason being he plays the kind of football i love ❤️
We might not know what really transpired between the powers that be at Sundowns and our favourite coach Rulani. At this particular juncture I’m afraid we are not going to be patient with Rulani’s successor. Rulani is a genius and will remain one for a very long time.
I don't understand how some of our supporters are celebrating this, there is no way we play better than what we did... Heartbreaking news
Is only Pirates and Chiefs supporters believe me. 😢
You are lying.
@@Arthwell1 I am curious, if you are a Sundowns supporter and are celebrating this, what is your alternative?
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No fan is celebrating member but most of them are accepting.
I was also disappointed in how it happened and obviously hurt for losing the coach but after listening to the views of the fans in the twitter space last night....I fully understand the club's decision..
What decision is that?
Coach Rhulani is the best coach,but he was naive and become too arrogant.
I am sad for his departure. 😢.
I am worried about sundown
Rhulani did well,he deserved a last season to try and get the champions League, I agree that if the next coach loses 2 games then they would have failed ,no treble and no caf final that's a failure,no 9 players at bafana thats a failure,chiefs fired a coach for finishing 2nd and they have been struggling for almost a decade, how many champions League does psg have with their players,what identity are we willing to settle for when playing interference interference interference has came back to haunt us,we are now going to scrape for crumbs because of a foreigner who doesn't love us,the firing of the coach is to line up their fave to get exposure at club world cup,Rhulani loved this team and my heart bleeds and im angry and forgive the sundowns board,i see another dobsonville incident loading soon😢😢😢
It's like you read my mind word for word my brother 🤷. This danish bambahosi is here to destroy Sundowns🚮
I honestly believe our coach reached his limit last session, He did not win a single game of consequence ( 0 win in CAF knock out stage, lost both finals, lost the last game of the league to becoming invisible)
We can't celebrate winning games without winning trophies. History only remembers the trophy winner, not the style or the number of games won.
Only trophies make you a big team. 12 years later, we are still behind kaizer Chief.
Winning trophies is the bottom line. Doing it in style is an added benefit
Baseless assumption. No coach was fired in his first year of his contract. His expulsion had nothing to do with what you mentioned.
It's saddening, however personally not surprising. Football is business. It is high time everyone involved realizes that. Rulani must learn from his lows and grow his reputation. He has potential but for me he reached plateau at Sundowns. This is his opportunity to develop himself and come back stronger
Those were my sentiments when we lost to Esperence and Pirates, I love coach Rhulani but I don’t think he was going to take us to greater heights…
That's a masepa decision of high note
Rhulani failed to Win Caf Champs League, and the man didn't spoke about Downs giving him 4 more years
Make no mistake, we loved Rhulani and we loved him dearly for what he has achieved in the club, the fact that he’s released doesn’t make him a bad coach or that Flemming as a SD is a bad guy, please Tlotlo make your little brother to understand…
Flemming is bad bro 🙄.
Hello Guys;
I wanted Khentse on this one because he was emotional after we lost Nedbank cup.He was saying if we have to get another Coach let it be.I wonder what Khentse is thinking now is happy Rulani is gone.
Khens saw this coming….
Kensani was being honest though
@nompilomabaso5455 but Sundowns goal is not MTN8 or Nedbank Cup.if it was CAF .The time we lost again Esperance then we were supposed to start singing that sing of the coach must go.
Khensani is an honest man, I remember when he talked about Safranko and Mendieta you can tell that this man is for Sundowns not individuals, now the guys are being emotional because they loved Rhulani... I also wanted Khense so bad that guy is brutally honest and doesn't sugarcoat.
We were singing about Rulani even in the last game of the season after losing Nedbank.
Majority of the fans didn't want Rulani gone. Yes we do want to win CAFCL but this decision is on management not the fans
You guys are allowing your love for Coach Rhulani to overcloud his performance as Head Coach.He clearly did not meet the objectives & a decision had to be made.Let’s rally behind the team & stop being divisive.👆👆🙏🏿🙏🏿
@@karabo4265 absolutely
What were those objectives?
CAFCL and he failed @@lazarousmuzandu2568
@@lazarousmuzandu2568 Champions League, League and 1 Domestic Cup.
We are turning like Bayern now
You are right mr host,we are going back to pre 2012🤞.
We need to get out of our comfort zone if we need to develop and grow this brand and club, so said Flemming Berg in one of his interviews when he arrived at the club…
Well he is destroying the team's culture 🤷. Skop n donor football is your new way🚮
Sundowns is not a mediocre team. The investments that sundowns put indicates that they have a clear vision to conquer Africa and be ranked with teams like Al Ahly...If you do not meet the targets then you are not delivering throughout your stint then you likely to leave. Al ahly chase coaches away like nobody business especially if they fail to deliver. Sundowns is moving differently now!
Very true
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100% correct... Big clubs Judge coaches by Champions League
That Thlopie must explain to us what inspired him to fire Rulani, haaaai these young man owe us an explanation yeses
@@eddiemagents1080 You can ask him what inspired him to demote Manqoba🤣
The performance in the CCL was horrible for a team like Sundowns...
Me I'm glad the guy is out because we were starting to celebrate records not trophies and the fact that the club is divided saying a lot about himself. We are not going to be hold hostage by one person. The guy was not fit to coach Sundowns, he literally said "give me 4 years to win CCL" while in the semifinals. Bro said he was tired.
Well said admin 👏👏👏👏,the team brought cancer in 2022🤞. Period!!!
Sundowns wants to win the Champions league and do well in the CWC in the new season. Coach Rulani lost most of important games and won the league and AFL was not good enough for big investments by the club. Good is not good enough for Mamelodi Sundowns. The disagreements between coach rulani and Fleming Berg on the transfers was the ceiling point and motivated the separation. We need to support the new coach just like we did with Rulani and hope for great things for the new season.
Sundowns supporters support team not individual we are behind Technical Director and management decisions
I am behind the coach from now on,not the bloody teams with dumb management.🚮
I am very disappointed by the decision and hurt as Sundowns fan
It was long overdue... i was so happy when he left, i wish the club can announce his departure again today 🎉🎉
Why is it so hard for members to believe that RM failed for 2 seasons? The man did not deliver what he signed for in his contract.
I think we have fallen to the opposition's mind games.
They are trying to put us under pressure by under playing the achievements we are having while they, themselves are far away from reaching the level we are in now.
I haven't heard a convincing explanation that is worth demolishing the success that we have built so had over years .
This is the worst ever mistake that sundowns has ever committed.
Our fans mustn't be carried away and think that losing a football match is a sin, or winning titles is a God given Right, no.
What if the next coach will need a season or two to get the ball rolling?
Are we prepared to go a season without a trophy while the coach is still adjusting ?
Have we forgotten where we are coming from, changing all the best European coaches without success?
I think as the supporters of this club, we need to understand the thinking behind this move from whoever came with it and how is it gonna benefit the club going forward.
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Well said my brother 👏👏👏❤️
These guys are so emotional yhoo.
m hurt.....we love coach Rhulani too much
😊, I remember when you guys used to defend his chamilion mediocrity, I'm not surprised with the decision taken by Flemingburg... He should have continued with the Dimond system but unfortunately for him he loves to be the smart guy. I wish him all the best overseas
No words this season is going to be hard with all this problems I hope the players are ohk and will be ready to bless us with exceptional football
The most frustrating matter is that nothing was discussed with us as fans, Mamelodi Sundowns is us. We come first. Everything that happened from the office to the fans I feel as if they threw us with a hand grenade and expect us to survive after that. 😡
I’d like to hope that this wasn’t your final video. We can’t wait for the next video.
Pirates is happy they won't have to Bribe referees anymore, Steve Khompela will give them the victories.. Rhulani does not buy face, he Hit Pirates and Chiefs so hard they plotted for his removal... Rhulani is a Beast, African Continent Teams Defended 90mins fearing this Lion
I no longer get di updates, good to see that Tlotlo o sa phela and glowing. 😮
I was in tears when I c posts frm players crying.... players lv rhulan.i wish they can heal
Guys, I feel your pain. I would also like to know which direction we are taking. 🤔
Is good to hear from you guys and welcome back 😭😭❤️🙏
He'll be back he still wants to coach Sundowns .
Let's see how many club members we sign up since we are going around the country
Neo my brother, we are all bleeding. It is a grieving period.
Coach Rhulani will come back to Sundowns🤞
Remember how Rhulani Transformde Aubrey Modiba, bringing him inside to attac and deffend from within and outside.. Black Excellence is Rhulani Mokwena... Take a BOW! when Khuliso Mudau was signed I was so negative coz Khuliso did not now how to football, But Rhulani surprised us and Blew the whole Africa away.. Tebogo Mokoena from an Ordinary midfielder to a Global Sensation... What has Steve Khompela achieved??? what a Joke
Even If you don't win ccl next coach we don't care even if you can loose three or four games but three or two domestic cups and AFL it'll be enough to our team next season
That's our target we're a big team guys we are getting serious now and coach Rulani knows that surely
Im confused even now and frustrated with this decision but we move
Morning guys.....good to see you once again after a month under the circumstances
The problem is that all our coach leave in this shadow no full explanation to the supporters
I respect your opinion guys, but I also think you honestly lack understanding direction Sundowns has adopted. Motsepe once said he wants Sundowns to conquer Africa. He has invested towards that. Coach therefore must live up to expectation. Number of wins to lift PSL is irrelevant, when it becomes the only cup you win. With this mediocrity there was no prospect of Sundowns defending AFL cup.
@@matolengwemakongwana3132 absolutely
Can i ask what conquering Africa mean? Does it mean Downs should win ACL every season or more often?
I am asking this question as a neutral person ( not Downs supporter )
My own interpretation of what Mr Motsepe wished is what is currently happening to Downs. Be always present in the competition and them reaching top 4 2 seasons in a row should be commanded.
It remains to be seen what happens going forward as far as th3 new technical team is concerned.
What would be the mendate and time frame to achieve it.
I appreciate the engagement. I wouldn't be able to give the interpretation of Sundowns' meaning of "conquering." However, the fact that they dismissed him indicates to me that he underperformed. My own interpretation wouldn't be merely making it to the semis but win at least twice out of 5. This thing has been there for taking for the past two seasons.
@@matolengwemakongwana3132 okay i hear your side Bro but my follow up question to you will be:
As things stand, the new coach should come and be given a chance or the same expectations should apply?
@@sydneymaswanganyi You’re wrong, conquering Africa doesn’t mean winning the league 7 times but means to compete in the continent and be counted amongst the top teams which obviously means winning the champions league…
In all honesty guys you are being emotional about this thing.
The worst thing is that you are also planting seeds to the fans to be somehow towards the management of the team instead of supporting the team.
Give the team the benefit of the doubt and try to investigate what might be going on.
A good example is when it comes to the targets. You are saying the coach comes and losses 2 games beginning of the season that's a failer even though the he might go on to win the league.
He might win the league and add cups.
You are calling the SD a cancer because you don't like his decisions even though the club is with him.
You love and support European clubs but you know very well their role and responsibilities in those clubs.
The club is trying to do something but these type of sentiments don't really help because you are a platform with a voice that can encourage discernt when its not even necessary.
We can try and wait to see what the SD is trying to do. Even if you know Sundowns ground/core fans as you say, the club has the final say.
This guy is here to also elevate the team.
There's this other podcast i was watching that was talking about some of the reasons the SD and coach Rulani didn't get along. Some of these things include what the team can be doing to reach greater heights that we were not reaching.
Can we please be supporters of the club, not people working for the club.
Sundowns wants to have more than 1 CCL and complete with the African joints with trophies won. We can't be saying the club can't want that because we have 1 title.
@@africanmarkets2524 I totally agree 100% , well articulated my brother 👏👏
I think it’s you Neo who doesn’t understand Fleming’s role in the club… one day you will understand…
That's what i thought when i was listening this, however it's still a new thing in SA.
@@chevytahoe9913 Absolutely
But if Diamond System was the best ever System played at Sundowns history Why would you as a coach change that and go to a System that downgraded your performances 🤔 Rulani had support guys but he got obsessed with useless things that cost us finals we need to be honest as we praise his best contribution to the club
Correct member Rulani made mistake by changing that diamond, Shalulile was so dangerous but wen he played his back pass football Sundowns was so predictable we started struggling to win matches
We are also willing to give up the style of football... We can't win CAF playing mud football
Nagana fela🤦💔🚮
Hey Madawana........a week later, I'm still struggling to understand.
I think you are left behind as supporters, we need to catch uo on the club’s vision and model otherwise you will always say we’re not entitled to win the champions league as if the Ahly and WAC of this world are entitled to do so, you’re failing us our Fan Block😊
My guy even in the upcoming three years Sundowns won't win the CAFCL,as long as the PSL schedule as-is.
Let's hope for the best gents, we lost a great coach. I hope we'll come back stronger. No sober coach will take this job, this is a trap. How do you come and beat Rulani's record and style of play? Let's see...
😂😂😂😂 this sounds like a joke for me. I am a Sundowns fan since 1994. Yes, I know I'm young. I am a fan of Rulani as well and my love for Rulani remains.
I strongly disagree with this insinuation of making individuals bigger than Sundowns brand.
Sundowns has all the right to increase the bar inline with their budget. You go big or go home. We have been with Sundowns before Motsepe family and it was competitive. Go and consult history.
We are going to get champions league very soon
@@vincentramulwela-tr9ej Well said Vini 👏
We are going to pay school fees for this decision but I don't think we can fail to win PSL this coming season. The records set by Rulani will not be broken anytime soon because the competition is going to be tough this coming season. I would like Mamelodi Sundowns to keep Coach Manqoba even if they decide to hire a new Head Coach. Mamelodi Sundowns Supporters must also try to improve attendance because I feel we do not impose intimidation in our opponents in League or CCL home games. This is how the North African giants dominate CAF tournaments.
You guys are still wet behind your ears for you to understand the direction we need to take as a club, let’s support the club’s vision
We must support a club even if the management takes dumb decisions🙄?! You are mad🚮
Thank you coach u did well African child
Coach Rhulani failed the team.. We lost to Pirates 2x and thinking to win champions league. Thanks to Flem big ups🎉🎉
If what he achieved is failure then I don't know what you would call a team that does not win anything
Guys i am happy for saying things as they are... personal i am not happy. If Rhulani did not have all the powers, why is he responsible for so called failure. The STD must be accountable as well.
When Pitso mentioned that there is only one person who makes decisions we said he is crazy now it all makes sense indeed.
@@polarloads9084 Don’t tell us about Pitso
@@mduduzithabede1999 haibo ngoba kunjani ukhuluma iqiniso nje
Same as me guys I am shocked and confused. But I hope they take coach Manqoba.
MASANDAWANA U STILL GOT GOOD ITEM MEANING GOOD PLAYERS THE GOOD COMPETITION IS STILL ON.ZIYAKHALA.
Rulani did well but these things happens and the best to him.
I have been waiting for this one...
The algorithm messed up im seeing this 10 days later
So now our management hired a curse in Flemming Berg, that's according to you guys.
Thank you Masadawana fan block. I was worried why you were not responding to the current affairs. Let me take this opportunity to thank our former coach for what he has done. Unfortunately he did not meet the major target for the team. I am one of those people who believe that coach Rulani was not going to win us the second star. Becuase of how we lost the current CAF championship compared to 2022/23. There was too much hope when we lost to Waydad that we are going to win the 2023/24. However we struggled to qualify for semi final and we could not even score in the semifinal. Added to the CAF failure was losing two finals to Orlando Pirates with the same coach is not palatable to me. We need the second star and we need a coach who will ensure we win the CAF championship league and compete at FIFA World Cup. We are now in the league with Al Ahly and we cannot give coaches 4 or 8 years without CAF stars.
I strongly agree with you guys
Young Africans won the league ka 80points. There’s more that the PSL teams in South Africa 🇿🇦 can do. Sundowns started showing that it’s possible. Hoping the numbers go higher.
No need to tread carefully. Be yourselves. Support and criticise where necessary. We all have different views and nothing is ever personal. The important thing is to let people express themselves freely. And when you know what is brewing inside the camp put yourselves in the shoes of those who don't. Never be condescending based on knowledge that is not public
Nkhensani hi kombela mita mita hi hlamusela ku ku humelele yini hi coach ya hina
Right now we all emotional because we love coach Rhulani but I think You guys are missing the point. Coach Rhulanis target for 2024 were based on his achievements for 2023. Based on that there were no improvements in 2024. We can complain all we want but Coach Rhulani had targets and he didn't meet them. The targets for the upcoming coach might not necessarily be same as those for Rhulani. What I think we should be asking ourselves is what did the management do to support the Coach. Talking about records that did nt produce trophies is like a government official who praise his clean audit that did nothing to improve people's lives.
Kent's is not there bcs he s happy..he s 1 of those who says "Rhulan must go". I wish Rhulan must came back aftr 2/3 yrs.. whether we lv him or not he s d best nd no body Wll came closer....
Nna kere the Motsepe family should be held accountable. Why is it that they allow individuals to do as they please. They way Coach Pitso left and now Rhulani. Tlhopie even backed him on TV now he is quiet when Berg is doing all this nonsense. Nehh Motsepe wa re bolaya
Neo, my take is that we shouldn't be obsessed with breaking records. I don't believe that the season objectives include winning the league undefeated or achieving 100 points. The main goal should be to win the league and secure some domestic 'trophies, with at least reaching the CAF final, or winning two domestic trophies along with the CAF Champions League. Additionally, this should be achieved while the new coach maintains the Mamelodi Sundowns' possession-based style of play. Meeting these objectives will ensure job security
I feel for e coach who comes after him coz if this was result related we gonna have some crc prblms going forward
Guys, Guys, Guys......,stop being emotional about coach Rhulani 's departure. He failed period. He even said it himself in the press conference that the "investment doesn't equate the outcomes." So, he knew and acknowledged that he failed to reach his targets. Furthermore, he was becoming more arrogant, complacent and unprofessional. Being in the news for all the wrong reasons, fighting other coaches, tarnishing the image of the club. He was not only a "leader" but also the "face " of the club, therefore we expected him to always be beyond reproach verbally and behaviorally on the field. So, hands off SD...,he is doing his job. And again...,we should keep the coach because they can deliver the desired results not because they are young and naive. Sundowns is an ambitious club with huge ambitions We strive for excellence .
THE ELPHANT INSIDE THE ROOM, We can't just lose our coach in this time of the year. We must get rid of the ELEPHANT.
Baryen won the champions league in 2020
They let go of a genius for an ordinary man and expect to conquer africa. 🤦
He is not a genius, he received Downs at top level and just maintained that.The mandate was to get a second star but he only gunned for league,Sundows have won the league previously,its monotonous.
So, you guys are saying Sundowns shouldn't judge a coach by Champions League, but we say we are competing with Al Ahly who judge their coaches by Champions League.
Coach Rhulani failed to reach the finals of Champions League, and the other games in PSL do not matter even if we lose 8 games in the league, whether we won the league by less than 65 points does not matter, we want Champions League.
Pep how many times did he reach the finals? Neo I think you are being emotionally about the whole thing.
League can be won by Chiefs or Pirates it's ok, we want to win Champions League, a 2nd star is what we want not record points or 10 games unbeaten no, Champions League.
Pitso must reinstated to be HEAD coachof sundowns.i see him being the 1....
3champions LEAGUE with Al ahhyi.hw is locally the best coach.
Pitso
Pitso
Pitso
Pitso
MUST com get us forward with winning the CHAMPION LEAGUE.
Motsepe is a champion MINDED person.thys why he spen so mch.Coach who ever comes at sundowns hv that mentality.too.
@@victorvictor4585 We don’t need him at Sundowns
Guy's we need champions league we are willing to sacrifice all these 4 game trophies but Rhulani would never win us champions leagues
The next coach better walk on water 😤
As much as it hurts bottomline was there was a contract and what was agreed on was not met.
Contra to this, the SD deresourced Rulani because he did not get him the players he wanted.
That's why Pitso wanted full control to avoid these situations.
I am really disappointed. How could they let such a talented coach go . They should have done everything possible to retain Rhulani . He is undoubtedly the best coach we have ever had . Sundowns should not compromise their style of play , which has been successful. The team was closed to achieving an invincible status , winning the league seven times in a row and performing well in the African Football League. This decision seems very poorly thought out . I do not know all the reasons behind it , but I am skeptical that the team will continue to dominate the league next season . We will have to wait and see.
60 +9+11=80....what happened to the other 11 games?
Neo o kwatile yong, you even said "How bar the high is!".😂
The news was really heartbreaking gents, I dont think we will ever get a better man manager than coach Rulani. And worst of all o tlo re ja ka Wydad mo Loftus 😢
A European taking charge of Downs at the CWC when black men did all the hard work doesn't sit well with me. At all.
Mina guys I will always supporting team decisions and don't forget Rhulani is not an angel he cost some Sundowns technical team their jobs naye
Sporting director is the one who is charged and the coach must be control and the supporters must follow the stupid direction
I`M A CHIEFS SUPPORTER,RHULANE IS THE BEST AT SUNDOW NS CAUSE IT`S GOT GOOD MATERIAL. RHULANE WAS THE BEST.
Sometimes, we must be critical and not take an official statement as true just because we love the team and this goes to anything you associate yourself with. The official statement said the team lead him go because he failed to meet objectives. Why do you have to wait over 30 days after the coach's last game to know he did not meet the objectives? I don't believe the nonsense statement the team put out.
We have been Sundowns fans b4 Rulani and Sundowns has changed the best couches b4 Rulani, we had lot of good couches and lot of bad couches,as I like Rulani as a human and how much he loves Sundowns I think he was failing us specially wen it comes in those big matches, he was struggling,he was doing well in the league but but I think it's bcz he was playing against weak opponents, Sundowns saved him bcz the teams like Chiefs are changing a lot this time around
RHULANI was fired for lying to the media and fighting with that galaxy coach not result related unfortunately plus making big errors in critical games and he also tried to revamp our technical structures, influenced the firing of Jola
Mara Bafethu Coach Pitso uhamhe nabantu in the team, Musi Matlala, Rangopa and some people, so when people are leaving the team with coach is not a problem because they were his friends those people.
Sundowns management owe us an explanation this doesn't make sense