Eric valentine can get all greedy and go the mix with the masters route, instead he chose to share his huge knowledge for free on TH-cam for all of us to absorb. What a generous guy, there is pure gold on every video!
Eric! I miss your videos so much I started going back through the old ones. I've been working on my drum sounds so these two on the Greg Holden album are really helping. This episode with GW has SO many great concepts and ideas rolled into one. Thx again so much for sharing. You've really made a huge difference in my ability to get closer to what I'm hearing in my head. Stay well and carry on!
Thanks for your kindness in doing this Mr Valentine. Means really a lot. Grew up listening to your mixes and recordings (Third eye blind first) and in a lot of ways is a dream come true finally seeing all this.
Unbelievably great content! Way looking forward to the second installment. This series from Eric is absolute gold, and at some point the word is going to get out. There are a lot of relative hacks out there (shooting videos from their bedrooms) getting fairly large numbers of views, while this genuine genius is, for the moment, going largely unnoticed. Thanks, Eric, for putting the effort into generating this awesome content!
I mixed Greg Holden’s EP that my friend Nunzio Signore produced. Nunzio invited Greg to come over from England to record after seeing him sing in a pub in England.
This mix was explosive on the chorus! I even went back to Spotify to listen to the record again. Pure goodness, from You, Greg, the Artist and players. Thanks for another great video, Mr. Valentine!
Thank you so much for sharing this with all of us! I already admired both Eric and Greg as true artists and I just discovered Greg Holden’s beautiful and inspired music along the way.
Incredible video! I totally respect and value the expertise that these guys shared with us! Thank you, Eric and Greg And, for the record, I bought the FabFilter Saturn and Gate plugin before, because of other videos, where I saw Eric using it. This cemented my decision to use them on drums! So incredibly helpful.
It's not 100% dry. Open up Decapitator yourself and you'll see that the mix knob (whether 100% dry or wet) goes further down than the white dots on the GUI. 100% would have the white line on the mix knob pointed directly at the "y" in dry. *edit* AKA he's got it at like 5% probably, which is why Greg makes the point of how subtle it is.
I immediately put your tom eq and mb compressor technique to work on a track I've been trying to nail down with a very busy tom and bass section. Still refining but it is way better already. I can't thank you enough for sharing these tips. Best wishes for a very successful channel!
Great great videos. Could you please make a video on some of the Nickel Creek stuff you produced and mixed? Would be awesome to see your brilliance on some more stripped down tracks, because those 2 albums sound amazing!
Amazing. Really enjoying all of these videos, Eric! Would love to see some modern pop rock like Good Charlotte, All American Rejects, 5SOS or a big rock record like TBS. Thank you
Oof, dynamic eq boost on the toms so they punch but dont ring... amazing. Multiple takeaways here. Excellent job EV and co. Around the 49 min mark for anyone wondering.
Beautiful record, guys. I just listened in the car after watching the interview, and those downbeats on the choruses are epic! Thank you both for sharing your process.
Eric (and Greg!), always been a fan of your work and love to geek out watching anything related to your studio work (I mean that QOTSA vid explaining the ridiculous midrange stuff you did on guitars?!?! A Geek's paradise!). Just wanted to say thanks, sweet channel, and keep up the awesome work you do! Cheers! \m/ \m/
Soo good! I went back and watched Greg Well’s early MWTM Deconstructing the Mix video for Bea Mundro and totally noticed the same chains for the kick and snare! Must be gold if Greg throws it into his template ha. Wonder how recently after Greg Holden, Wells threw it in his template, its obviously your settings! Thanks for this amazing content.
Keep the videos coming. This is awesome. Never heard of Greg Holden now I'm a fan! Great sounding record. Also Eric, if McLovin and Rick Springfield had a kid it would look like you. Haha.
@ 41minutes -- Two world class engineers toggle the bypass switch of decapitator that is set to fully dry and thinking they hear a difference.... priceless.
talk to rick beato and other big youtube people to be featured!!! you need to make this BIG cuz its waaaaaaaaaay too good not to be shared with everyone. there should be at least half a million people subbed to this channel how is it only 28 hundred?please dont stop making these videos they are very very helpful!!! Massive thank you!!!!
Totally agree with the comparison to analog photography/film. Advantage is, that you just have to spent a little amount of money to get real photos instead of recording on tape. Super episode. Thanks for this. Greetz. Carsten
Thats what I thought! The mix knob does go a bit past either side on decap so maybe it was doing like a 2% blend or something and they both just have spectacular ears??? Lets be real though, It wouldn't be the first time two of the best producer/engineers in the world thought they made a subtle move when they actually just turned the volume up a bit. Were all human :P
Hi Eric, i'm born itb i try to stay within the most because i love the fastness of the workflow but some time ago i've tried some old analog gear, and you are absolutely right, comps and eqs doesn't behave as they should with digital tracks. So, do you think a cheaper r2r (say a revox or something similar) can do the job? Since i've build myself some tubes comps and pres the mixing process became so natural and pleasing than ever, and what i guess now is if i need to invest in a r2r and be cool for the rest of my life! Best regards from Italy Ps: do some qotsa
Mr Wells is a genuinely interesting person, him and Malcom Gladwell would make for a fascinating conversational evening. Mr Wells has a great way of describing things or should I say ‘Turn of phrase’. At 32:45 Mr Wells looks as if to say “Mmm! Maybe it’s not sooo great.” 😃 Ice Cube... “Where’s ma money...”
Hi Eric, I really love your channel and music. Would you ever talk about getting good recordings out of un-ideal recording spaces such as basements, etc? Especially on drums. Also, how do you decide how to edit songs into their final form? Just a gut decision? Or do you want the song totally in it's final form before even pre-production?
Question for Eric, when, in the mixing process do you add the the altecs on the mix buss?. Are they on from the start or do add them in later in the mix process?. Love these vids man thx so much for doing this!.
I typically start without the altecs on the music buss. Once I am done doing all the EQing, compression on the individual instruments and have some basic levels then I'll start auditioning overall compression on the music. With most music I work on, my goal is always to get things to sound right with as little compression as possible. The mix will sound bigger the less compression you have to use.
He uses the MB as an expander to boost the low end ONLY on the transient of the tom hit, so that they sound massive on impact but they won't have that low end boost in their decay (which would translate to rumble and clash with the bass guitar in the mix). You could do the same technique with regular EQ but you'd have to automate the plugin on and off every time the tom hits so that's why he uses the multiband instead.
That is Johnny Mercer and the song is called "what cha ma call it" . I chose it because, no matter how many times I hear it, I am still delighted to hear again :)
I was gonna buy Saturn but when I demoed it it used up like half my CPU and I was like "oh no I can't have that. It's cool but it's not worth THAT much of my CPU!".
![Into The Lair #56 - Tracking Drums with Greg Wells and Ian MacGregor [FULL]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wxxepqIwpB0/mqdefault.jpg)
Eric valentine can get all greedy and go the mix with the masters route, instead he chose to share his huge knowledge for free on TH-cam for all of us to absorb. What a generous guy, there is pure gold on every video!
Eric! I miss your videos so much I started going back through the old ones. I've been working on my drum sounds so these two on the Greg Holden album are really helping. This episode with GW has SO many great concepts and ideas rolled into one. Thx again so much for sharing. You've really made a huge difference in my ability to get closer to what I'm hearing in my head. Stay well and carry on!
Spend 20 minutes discussing the inside kick mic only to discover it's a D112, then run out of time. Awesome channel, thanks so much for doing this.
That's a master class in audio mixing right there. Thanks Eric, Greg for doing this!
LOL... "...this searing, buzzing sound." Eric V, you are priceless :)
and extremely generous to share this with us. Best wishes.
I googled “ awesome shit”, and Eric’s channel came up.
Thanks Eric, for your time with these videos.
Two of the best at their craft. Great watch and learning session.
Two of the greatiest musicians and funny guys! I Love what you do here 😊
Thanks for your kindness in doing this Mr Valentine. Means really a lot. Grew up listening to your mixes and recordings (Third eye blind first) and in a lot of ways is a dream come true finally seeing all this.
rewatching old videos, hopefully new one tomorrow. Hi Eric!
Love You
Unbelievably great content! Way looking forward to the second installment. This series from Eric is absolute gold, and at some point the word is going to get out. There are a lot of relative hacks out there (shooting videos from their bedrooms) getting fairly large numbers of views, while this genuine genius is, for the moment, going largely unnoticed. Thanks, Eric, for putting the effort into generating this awesome content!
I mixed Greg Holden’s EP that my friend Nunzio Signore produced. Nunzio invited Greg to come over from England to record after seeing him sing in a pub in England.
Hi Eric, and Greg.
This is great guys, thanks for sharing and for making great records. Thank you
It's a privilege to listen in
Your eq moves are so good. So satisfying when you un-bypass them. Thank you for the content!
This mix was explosive on the chorus! I even went back to Spotify to listen to the record again. Pure goodness, from You, Greg, the Artist and players. Thanks for another great video, Mr. Valentine!
Thank you so much for sharing this with all of us! I already admired both Eric and Greg as true artists and I just discovered Greg Holden’s beautiful and inspired music along the way.
I've watches this twice. Incredible stuff! Thanks for this high quality content, really interesting and informative.
Thanks for sharing another awesome video! Would love to see one with 3EB, TBS and QOTSA
Incredible video! I totally respect and value the expertise that these guys shared with us! Thank you, Eric and Greg And, for the record, I bought the FabFilter Saturn and Gate plugin before, because of other videos, where I saw Eric using it. This cemented my decision to use them on drums! So incredibly helpful.
This is so great. Thank you very much. 👍🤘
A little late for the party but, well... this is just brilliant! I just have one word : MORE! Thanks to you Eric and to you Greg! Way cool... :-D
What a great pairing. I'm really enjoying this video, guys!
Awesome. Would love to see one of your huge sounding rock records, like TBS!
same
TBS Since You're Gone!
Would kill to hear some TBS explained!
Thanks Eric & Greg, great insight & detail!
Thanks Eric!!! So amazing to see you doing this!
Thank you Eric and Greg. I really enjoyed this.
I like how they listen to decapitator on the outside kick when it's 100% dry
It's not 100% dry. Open up Decapitator yourself and you'll see that the mix knob (whether 100% dry or wet) goes further down than the white dots on the GUI. 100% would have the white line on the mix knob pointed directly at the "y" in dry. *edit* AKA he's got it at like 5% probably, which is why Greg makes the point of how subtle it is.
Probably it is a latency thing to keep the phase relationship with the kick in mic
I immediately put your tom eq and mb compressor technique to work on a track I've been trying to nail down with a very busy tom and bass section. Still refining but it is way better already. I can't thank you enough for sharing these tips. Best wishes for a very successful channel!
I love to see 2 pros here having fun!!! Thanks Eric!!
Great great videos. Could you please make a video on some of the Nickel Creek stuff you produced and mixed? Would be awesome to see your brilliance on some more stripped down tracks, because those 2 albums sound amazing!
Amazing. Really enjoying all of these videos, Eric! Would love to see some modern pop rock like Good Charlotte, All American Rejects, 5SOS or a big rock record like TBS. Thank you
This is brilliant!
Thank you both for sharing your stories, thoughts, and techniques...
So much fantastic information to provoke new ideas!
Oof, dynamic eq boost on the toms so they punch but dont ring... amazing. Multiple takeaways here. Excellent job EV and co. Around the 49 min mark for anyone wondering.
Amazing content! Long but so in depth and valuable. I just admire the simplicity of the mix but every move and plugin has a purpose!
Beautiful record, guys. I just listened in the car after watching the interview, and those downbeats on the choruses are epic! Thank you both for sharing your process.
These videos are great, really pulling together things in a cohesive way. So grateful you decided to do this channel Eric!
Your vids are incredible! Please continue!
This is just Amazing thank you very much
amazing amazing amazing!!
Loving this! Thank you for sharing your knowledge, both of you! Learning so much.
Eric (and Greg!), always been a fan of your work and love to geek out watching anything related to your studio work (I mean that QOTSA vid explaining the ridiculous midrange stuff you did on guitars?!?! A Geek's paradise!). Just wanted to say thanks, sweet channel, and keep up the awesome work you do! Cheers! \m/ \m/
Thanks so much for doing these Eric! Love your work =) Appreciate getting to hear more of your insight. Thanks!
Gold, so many inspiring ideas! Great to see that these 2 superstars are just normal dudes too.
Can’t get enough of these. I second some of the other comments-would love to see a walkthrough on one of the songs on the TBS record.
Awesome! Thank you so much for this video and sharing your knowledge.
I enjoyed every minute.
Peace.
thank you for doing this!
Fantastic
This is just fucking excellent. Always wanted to be a fly on the wall for any of Eric's sessions. And now THIS?!?! The best.
Awesome!
amazing stuff!
Loved this!
Soo good! I went back and watched Greg Well’s early MWTM Deconstructing the Mix video for Bea Mundro and totally noticed the same chains for the kick and snare! Must be gold if Greg throws it into his template ha. Wonder how recently after Greg Holden, Wells threw it in his template, its obviously your settings! Thanks for this amazing content.
The technique you use with the dynamic eq on toms kind of blew my mind! Thanks for allowing us to see your mixing techniques ✌️✌️
Keep the videos coming. This is awesome. Never heard of Greg Holden now I'm a fan! Great sounding record. Also Eric, if McLovin and Rick Springfield had a kid it would look like you. Haha.
I can’t believe I get to watch this
These videos put so much good info in my back pocket that I will need wider pants soon.
love both
Incredible
this channel is gonna blow up soon!!! amazing content
Thank you!
This info is invaluable Eric. Thanks for being so giving. Really good stuff man.
@ 41minutes -- Two world class engineers toggle the bypass switch of decapitator that is set to fully dry and thinking they hear a difference.... priceless.
can't find the part where they talk about the Magic Death Eye compressor ? I was pretty sure it was in that video. awesome content.
This is bizarrely fascinating
Love the Galápagos T, Eric!
Taking Back Sunday, or Good Charlottle please!
wow, very intelligent stuff !! thx for sharing. I already can hear how my mixes start to sound better, even if im not mixing ;-)
talk to rick beato and other big youtube people to be featured!!! you need to make this BIG cuz its waaaaaaaaaay too good not to be shared with everyone. there should be at least half a million people subbed to this channel how is it only 28 hundred?please dont stop making these videos they are very very helpful!!! Massive thank you!!!!
Totally agree with the comparison to analog photography/film. Advantage is, that you just have to spent a little amount of money to get real photos instead of recording on tape. Super episode. Thanks for this. Greetz. Carsten
For anyone watching... The Wavesfactory pipe organ they're talking about turns out to be FREE!
:)
Was the Decapitator set to 💯% dry on the Kick Out?
Zeb Fernandez looks like it
Thats what I thought! The mix knob does go a bit past either side on decap so maybe it was doing like a 2% blend or something and they both just have spectacular ears??? Lets be real though, It wouldn't be the first time two of the best producer/engineers in the world thought they made a subtle move when they actually just turned the volume up a bit. Were all human :P
I noticed that too! Lol
Thats not hundred %dry..Mix knob goes lower than that
Hi Eric, i'm born itb i try to stay within the most because i love the fastness of the workflow but some time ago i've tried some old analog gear, and you are absolutely right, comps and eqs doesn't behave as they should with digital tracks. So, do you think a cheaper r2r (say a revox or something similar) can do the job? Since i've build myself some tubes comps and pres the mixing process became so natural and pleasing than ever, and what i guess now is if i need to invest in a r2r and be cool for the rest of my life!
Best regards from Italy
Ps: do some qotsa
Xaz I highly recommend getting a r2r machine. Especially because it sounds like you have the technical skills to maintain and calibrate it!!
Mr Wells is a genuinely interesting person, him and Malcom Gladwell would make for a fascinating conversational evening.
Mr Wells has a great way of describing things or should I say ‘Turn of phrase’.
At 32:45 Mr Wells looks as if to say “Mmm! Maybe it’s not sooo great.” 😃
Ice Cube... “Where’s ma money...”
Hi Eric, I really love your channel and music. Would you ever talk about getting good recordings out of un-ideal recording spaces such as basements, etc? Especially on drums. Also, how do you decide how to edit songs into their final form? Just a gut decision? Or do you want the song totally in it's final form before even pre-production?
Question for Eric, when, in the mixing process do you add the the altecs on the mix buss?. Are they on from the start or do add them in later in the mix process?. Love these vids man thx so much for doing this!.
I typically start without the altecs on the music buss. Once I am done doing all the EQing, compression on the individual instruments and have some basic levels then I'll start auditioning overall compression on the music. With most music I work on, my goal is always to get things to sound right with as little compression as possible. The mix will sound bigger the less compression you have to use.
@@mrwev Thx for taking the time to respond to my question :) Really looking forward to the next video. Thx again for doing this!
love these videos, but wondering what that is crawling up your curtains around 1-14?
Top!!!! Thanks
What is exactly the Fabfilter Pro-MB trick with the toms at 48:41?
He uses the MB as an expander to boost the low end ONLY on the transient of the tom hit, so that they sound massive on impact but they won't have that low end boost in their decay (which would translate to rumble and clash with the bass guitar in the mix). You could do the same technique with regular EQ but you'd have to automate the plugin on and off every time the tom hits so that's why he uses the multiband instead.
@@TomFaron Thank you so much, I am gonna try it!
Hilarious how long it took you guys to get to the mix. Fascinating nonetheless but still funny and interesting.
and what are your monitors?
please activate the auto subtitles/cc so that it is easier for me to understand. I can't understand English very well. thanks..
Eric is high, and amazing.
Does anyone know the title and artist of the song at the intro?
That is Johnny Mercer and the song is called "what cha ma call it" . I chose it because, no matter how many times I hear it, I am still delighted to hear again :)
Thanks!..yes the song is very pleasing to the ears!
Greg rambles in the best way.
Greg: “Edit this out- but I have to go in 15 mins”
Eric Valentine: *doesn’t edit it out 🤣
Two freaking monsters talking? Can't take this (enough)
I did a song with harpsichord once, worked amazing! :)
I know what Ice Cube record that kick came from FOOL " You Know how we do it" : )
1:27:52 How....
Eric!. You need to record some European Power metal. Then you will be able to use your harpsichord on every song!
That bass is very Doctor Who! Original Doctor Who.
I was gonna buy Saturn but when I demoed it it used up like half my CPU and I was like "oh no I can't have that. It's cool but it's not worth THAT much of my CPU!".
Stop asking Greg which mic he used, he doesnt know! :)
Automate kicks louder on strong beats
Dyn eq to boost Tom funds but make them not sustain
“I’ve never been a fan of 421” that’s reassuring- I have 2 and I never like them on toms. The spill terrible in a nasty way.
How does Greg hardly know anything about microphones
Fantastic