18:41 Vedal demands a gift sub from chat and gets one in under 15 seconds. Didn't even consider buying it himself, just extorted six dollars from some hapless chatter. Actual Corpa overlord.
“If he asked me back to his place I’d turn into a liquid and splash on the floor” That was certainly a choice of words she made. Those were words she decided to say out loud.
I really hope the next date goes well and that he isn’t using Ellie as a rebound🤞🤞. Also Ik it’s Ellie but she needs to be more confident in herself❤️❤️
Ngl I’m concerned. She does the thing that I used to do which was try to cover other people’s red flags by self deprecating. I’m not diagnosed with autism but I am 100% neurodivergent so it was always my perspective to want to look at people as having good intentions because I know my good intentions could sometimes get lost in translation. Ellie be safe 😭
damn, my opinions of this date just kept changing. at first it was the best thing ever, it just sounded like a great date. but then the ex was brought up and I was ready to throw that guy out because he was a weirdo. but then the context and the reasons behind it came and now I am conflicted because they were decent reasons. anyway I am hoping that we are just overthinking it and it will be fine.
Never assume ill intent communicate your discomfort and expect change. Not fair to cut people off for something small when they may not even be aware of it. Maybe it's just a habit for him to mention her. Maybe it was a few coincidences and he's a little nervous. Maybe he is hung up on her and he needs to hear that he's seemingly thinking about her a lot. In that case maybe he would fully move on right then. Maybe he would need to take a few weeks and meet again. All of these possibilities are stuck in schrodinger's box until you communicate.
Date was like 1.5 hours right? Mentioned ex at least 3 times, texted her at least once. Yikes. I think Ellie was right when she assessed him as a loser, she was just wrong about what kind.
Just as Ellie isn't ready to reveal everything on the first date, like being a Vtuber, the guy might be doing similarly... [SPECULATION BELOW, do not read if not interested in theories.] Like if he & his ex have a kid together, so he has to be in regular contact with her about shared custody. Pure speculation on my part, of course, but it seems like one of the more likely possibilities for why he would have felt the need to text the ex right then & there.
@@Louis_2568 : [More speculation below] That actually lends credence to my theory, I think. Gently testing to see how she reacts to the ex still being in his life in order to gauge how she might react to potentially even bigger news.
@@spk1121 That's crazy though because anyone is going to see that as a big red flag and think it's unhinged to contact your ex so much. If he had a kid with her, he should've been up front about it, because then she'd know WHY he was texting her in the middle of their date. But that still doesn't resolve the issue of him comparing her to his ex, that is just clearly showing he still thinks about her a lot.
@@TheDrexxus: I know Ellie is pretty young, but I'm a little older and, sadly, have seen a number of people in this situation. It's not as cut and dry as you might think. It's easy to _say_ he should mention having a child on the first date, or do this or that, but people don't always act purely rationally. In part, this would be because that would be pigeonholing someone as a parent when they want to be seen as a full, independent person to someone new. Moreover, there's no denying someone having a child is "baggage" the new person has to be willing to accept, which they're less likely to do right off the bat. Oh, and if the ex is still prominently in his life, the impulse to make comparisons is going to be that much stronger than otherwise. Again, not always rational, just people muddying along as best they can sometimes.
It's really weird to bring up your ex during a date but it's even worse to compare your date to your ex. Like that you should never do. Either he's awkward or lacks common sense. Hopefully just awkward.
if he was bringing up his ex because it was to do with something that could impact the date, that would be fine, for example if they have a child together and they have to keep each other informed on things relating to the child, i'd say that is totally okay, or say that there was a custody exchange and it could potentially make him leave early, that kinda situation. bringing up his ex and comparing her to to his ex? absolutely not. casually texting his ex during the date? absolutely not, you are there with the date, not anyone else. if it's not an emergency, you ignore her. either way, hope things go well for her, but i would say don't get your hopes up with this guy, he's displaying a lot of red flags on day 1.
When you break up with someone you are always supposed to block your ex. Your future partner is not going to be happy you still talk to your ex. Red flag.
bro it's not black and white like that I'd say around 80% of the time that makes sense but if you were friends before dating and the relationship just wasn't working so you broke up you don't have to stop all contact.
I really don’t understand this mindset… if you’re not dating then suddenly that person loses all value in your life… that seems kind of unemotional to a person that you claimed to love just for that same exact circumstance for another person meaning you’re fine pushing them out if it doesn’t work out because that’s the mentality that was given to the ex… because people then wallow in self pity all the time after cutting all contact which in reality often isn’t necessary You’re suddenly just meant to act like you hate a person after breaking up… sure it could have been bad… but if you allowed that situation then it’s also some degree on the other, it’s never just one person’s fault unless they’re completely insane off the wall crazy… but the vast majority of people aren’t that extreme The idea of red flags honestly lacks nuance… because let’s be honest here, this isn’t an audience that should give love advice in the slightest… some random commenters on a damn clip channel who watch vtubers, there’s an obvious audience that watch vtubers and they typically don’t have much experience
18:41 Vedal demands a gift sub from chat and gets one in under 15 seconds. Didn't even consider buying it himself, just extorted six dollars from some hapless chatter. Actual Corpa overlord.
Bringing up an ex-girlfriend three times on the first date and even texting her during it is not a red flag. It's a red lighthouse.
o no
o no
3 times is what she noticed. remember ellie struggles with understanding social ques so imagine the number is quite a bit higher 😬
OMGMGMG ITS KRAUL, IM A BIG FANN
o no
It's so funny to see Bo's opinion of the guy going from "oh cool, he seems like a nice guy" to "NOW WAIT A SECON-" 🤣
And right back to "you're 100% ok"
The guy start from "D'awwwww" to "Walahi, he's finished".
Vedal asking for a gift sub at 18:45 is peak Corpa Tutel 💵💶💷🐢 😄
Bo is a really good friend 😂
Hopefully everything ended up as good experience for Ellie
“If he asked me back to his place I’d turn into a liquid and splash on the floor”
That was certainly a choice of words she made. Those were words she decided to say out loud.
Ellie absorbs the verbiage of her oshi Bao, but adapts them to her own seiso content.
Sister is not Bocchi 🗣️🧢🗣️🧢🗣️
I really hope the next date goes well and that he isn’t using Ellie as a rebound🤞🤞. Also Ik it’s Ellie but she needs to be more confident in herself❤️❤️
Ellie just needs to bring up her fake boyfriend as a counter and she's set.
I was 9 min in and excited for Ellie to open the comments making me question the trajectory of the next 20 min 😭
Ngl I’m concerned. She does the thing that I used to do which was try to cover other people’s red flags by self deprecating. I’m not diagnosed with autism but I am 100% neurodivergent so it was always my perspective to want to look at people as having good intentions because I know my good intentions could sometimes get lost in translation.
Ellie be safe 😭
damn, my opinions of this date just kept changing.
at first it was the best thing ever, it just sounded like a great date.
but then the ex was brought up and I was ready to throw that guy out because he was a weirdo.
but then the context and the reasons behind it came and now I am conflicted because they were decent reasons.
anyway I am hoping that we are just overthinking it and it will be fine.
Never assume ill intent communicate your discomfort and expect change. Not fair to cut people off for something small when they may not even be aware of it. Maybe it's just a habit for him to mention her. Maybe it was a few coincidences and he's a little nervous. Maybe he is hung up on her and he needs to hear that he's seemingly thinking about her a lot. In that case maybe he would fully move on right then. Maybe he would need to take a few weeks and meet again. All of these possibilities are stuck in schrodinger's box until you communicate.
I don't know about you guys, but if my date started talking about bugs, I'm might pull the ring out
I'm so glad she changed the background, it looks SO much better now
The ex-girlfriend thing was a big plot twist I was NOT expecting.
Date was like 1.5 hours right?
Mentioned ex at least 3 times, texted her at least once.
Yikes.
I think Ellie was right when she assessed him as a loser, she was just wrong about what kind.
Just as Ellie isn't ready to reveal everything on the first date, like being a Vtuber, the guy might be doing similarly...
[SPECULATION BELOW, do not read if not interested in theories.]
Like if he & his ex have a kid together, so he has to be in regular contact with her about shared custody. Pure speculation on my part, of course, but it seems like one of the more likely possibilities for why he would have felt the need to text the ex right then & there.
@@spk1121but bring her up?
@@Louis_2568 : [More speculation below]
That actually lends credence to my theory, I think. Gently testing to see how she reacts to the ex still being in his life in order to gauge how she might react to potentially even bigger news.
@@spk1121 That's crazy though because anyone is going to see that as a big red flag and think it's unhinged to contact your ex so much.
If he had a kid with her, he should've been up front about it, because then she'd know WHY he was texting her in the middle of their date. But that still doesn't resolve the issue of him comparing her to his ex, that is just clearly showing he still thinks about her a lot.
@@TheDrexxus:
I know Ellie is pretty young, but I'm a little older and, sadly, have seen a number of people in this situation. It's not as cut and dry as you might think. It's easy to _say_ he should mention having a child on the first date, or do this or that, but people don't always act purely rationally. In part, this would be because that would be pigeonholing someone as a parent when they want to be seen as a full, independent person to someone new. Moreover, there's no denying someone having a child is "baggage" the new person has to be willing to accept, which they're less likely to do right off the bat. Oh, and if the ex is still prominently in his life, the impulse to make comparisons is going to be that much stronger than otherwise. Again, not always rational, just people muddying along as best they can sometimes.
Mentioning ex 3 times and EVEN TEXTING THEM?! ON A FIRST DATE?! Bro Ellie better run and run far!
i like how towards the end when the guy is like "that's fine, that's still ok" and the damn picture of the dog is so fitting :D
I Locked in soooooo quick when I heard the possible Red Flags
Hearing someone talk about their x’s on a date is rough 😑
It's really weird to bring up your ex during a date but it's even worse to compare your date to your ex. Like that you should never do. Either he's awkward or lacks common sense. Hopefully just awkward.
I think Ellie could use some double date wing people to ease her into all this.
if he was bringing up his ex because it was to do with something that could impact the date, that would be fine, for example if they have a child together and they have to keep each other informed on things relating to the child, i'd say that is totally okay, or say that there was a custody exchange and it could potentially make him leave early, that kinda situation.
bringing up his ex and comparing her to to his ex? absolutely not. casually texting his ex during the date? absolutely not, you are there with the date, not anyone else. if it's not an emergency, you ignore her.
either way, hope things go well for her, but i would say don't get your hopes up with this guy, he's displaying a lot of red flags on day 1.
23:35 perfectly captured the sound of a man's soul leaving his body.
I understand his concern.
15:45 Hey, she can do the mommy voice. Good for her.
@shinsta312 great thumbnail pick for this video. That's skill right there, folks.
I’m from the south and we don’t say Annie as Aw-Nee. Well I’m from a heavily populated city so I guess that might change things
She has such a cute personality
Ellie you’re ti nice run away from that guy he’s a walking red flag
23:40 mental breakdown
Any updates on this yet?
ex and friends.... hmmmm.. huh... hmmmm...
When you break up with someone you are always supposed to block your ex. Your future partner is not going to be happy you still talk to your ex. Red flag.
They are friends now tho? You don't block a friend you used to date, thats more of a red flag to me to be honest.
bro it's not black and white like that I'd say around 80% of the time that makes sense but if you were friends before dating and the relationship just wasn't working so you broke up you don't have to stop all contact.
I really don’t understand this mindset… if you’re not dating then suddenly that person loses all value in your life… that seems kind of unemotional to a person that you claimed to love just for that same exact circumstance for another person meaning you’re fine pushing them out if it doesn’t work out because that’s the mentality that was given to the ex… because people then wallow in self pity all the time after cutting all contact which in reality often isn’t necessary
You’re suddenly just meant to act like you hate a person after breaking up… sure it could have been bad… but if you allowed that situation then it’s also some degree on the other, it’s never just one person’s fault unless they’re completely insane off the wall crazy… but the vast majority of people aren’t that extreme
The idea of red flags honestly lacks nuance… because let’s be honest here, this isn’t an audience that should give love advice in the slightest… some random commenters on a damn clip channel who watch vtubers, there’s an obvious audience that watch vtubers and they typically don’t have much experience
Don't know if men and women who have dated can be "friends"...