You do a great job showing how all this works and better than anyone else on youtube. I am an old man and you made it very easy for me. I have used coleman stuff in my past but never appreciated the quality in my younger days. I am now 72 andlove the fact that there there is a company out there that makes a product that works for years and does not quit after a few months. I now have 5 stoves and 4 lanterns and all work just fine.
Thank you SO much for this video. My Dad recently gave me his 431 and I absolutely cherish it, but it was having some issues, including staying on after shutting the valve off. I have zero experience working on these and your video has given me renewed hope that I'll be able to keep this stove running for many more years. All the best and thank you again.
Thanks a lot! I was looking for information about the sealing between tank and valve. Thougt i had to overrun after a long time working properly. Love this stove!
Great video. I wish I’d had this in the 90s when my dad and I were having a bear of a time replacing the generator on the family 431. We ended up breaking the cleaning needle at the valve. We couldn’t find anyone to fix it so bought a then new 431A. I later resurrected the original 431 but with the 431A/425 valve. It’s nice that it works but too bad it isn’t truly easi-lite anymore.
Replacing Easi-lite valves with the older Instant-lite ones was actually pretty common back in the day. In fact, that's what Coleman Canada sent a lot of folks when they failed within warranty. The o-rings in my 433A failed the original owner within the warranty period and Coleman shipped him a valve for a 413. The owner never could figure out how to replace it, so he sold it to me with the new part still boxed up and stored inside the stove.
Once you change the O-rings your stove is set for another 30 years .These things have so few parts and super reliable. I bought five ( ,2-431's a 421A ,421B, 432A,) thinking I could use the parts of one to fix the other but they all work! So I will keep the 431 and I am selling the others and this is certainly not a money making venture as gas stoves from Coleman are really cheap for what you get!
Very informative can you do a video as to why the coleman 226 /229 ) lanterns need pumping every 15 mins the dual fuels.?and what can be done to remedy that.
Coleman increased the size of the orifice on the gas tip on the dual fuel models, which results in a faster release of pressure. It's a bad combination when paired with such a small fount. One work-around is to only fill the fount half full, leaving more room for pressurised air. The other is to swap the generator for a 222/222A generator, but those are getting hard to find. That said, people had similar complaints about the 222/222A. When filled, they run bright for 15-20 minutes and then need to be pumped up again. They typically run fine at that point until the fount is empty. The larger orifice in the 226 just amplified the problem.
The output varies. The larger PowerHouse stoves are spec'd at something like 9000 (primary) and 8000 (auxiliary), while the smaller two-burners like the 425 are 7500 and 6500 respectively. Most of the Canadian suitcase stoves (since the mid-60s) will give an overall BTU spec on the front of the case where the model and generator numbers are stamped.
Great Video. Would you recommend a 431/432 as a suitcase stove over other 'eras'? I'm looking at them in my area, and comparing them to 425/powerhouse vs older models. The objective is to find a low maintenance model to last me for the coming years while camping. But balancing the availability of parts, and overall build quality.
Any Coleman stove is going to hold up well over the long term. The only difference between the Easi-lites (431/432) and the other models is the valve. The Easi-lite valve relies on o-rings and they can go bad. That said, they're not hard to replace. I think the bigger factor is the size. Do you want a compact two-burner (421/431/425) or do you want something bigger (444/432/413)...or three-burner (446/433/426)? I used a 421 for quite a few years as my main camping stove, but eventually switched to a three-burner 446. The larger format stoves can more easily accommodate larger pans and, when using an oven, leave more room to use the other burner(s).
That paper table cloth makes me nervous! REally! And I don't recommed taking apart too much because will it rebuild and be failsafe? in other words, will it be "fuel tight"? and flame-proof except for how it is designed to work? Reason why I ask is because my stove is a bit "corroded" Wow! Double Rainbow as I am watching this!
If you're not comfortable working on a gas pressure appliance, you probably shouldn't take yours apart. The point of the video is to show folks who to do it properly so they can be confident enough to do it themselves. As far as your stove goes, you'll have to be more specific about the corrosion. Rust on the stove body is pretty much just cosmetic. Rust on the tank may be cosmetic, but it can potentially compromise the tank integrity. If in doubt, pump up the tank and dunk it in a bucket of water to check for leaks. Valves and generators don't usually "corrode". Generators will often have some surface rust, but that's not a problem.
New Owner of a 432 here. My stove still sends gas even on off. How easy is it to find the appropriate o-ring or switxh assembly? Also is a newer model gas canister ass compatible with this newer model ?
If it leaks when shut off, you'll need to replace the little o-ring on the backside of the valve stem. You should be able to find them at an auto-supply shop. Just be sure they're made of viton or some other fuel-resistant material. The video will show you how to replace it. If you're talking about disposable propane canisters, you'll need to purchase an adapter.
@@king.coleman thanks alot !!!. For the second question; i was wondering if using a gas can, switch and generator from a newer model would work with the 432.
The tanks, valves, and generators are interchangeable between the Canadian 444, 446, 432, and 433 series stoves and the American 413 and 426 series. While there are some rarer exceptions, there are basically two stove families, the smaller and more common two-burners like the 421, 431, and 425 and the larger "Powerhouse" two- and three-burner stoves like your 432. The large-format stoves have larger fuel tanks and longer generators, so you can't swap parts between the small- and large-format stoves, but you can swap them between models of the same form factor. If you don't like the Easi-lite valve on the 432, you could swap it for a valve from a 444, 446, etc. or you could swap the entire tank/valve/generator assembly.
@@king.coleman Thank you, I have been searching for this info. I have recently been given a 1995 Coleman 413 Powerhouse, I only know it was possibly purchased from Canadian Tire back in the day. Is there a differnce between my stove and American 413 stoves? The original tank appears to have been substitued, the tank has an Easi-lite valve like in your video. Must be the bigger tank for 432/433 because it fits the stove. Can I use this tank and replace the general and valve assembly with for the 413 stove? Thanks from Alberta
@@kevinbuffalo944 If it's a 413, it's an American model. They didn't make that model in Canada and by 1995 they weren't making anything in Canada in anymore. Yes, you can use an Easi-Lite tank on a non-Easi-Lite stove. The valve assemblies are interchangeable.
About to tuck into my recently acquired 431 (date stamp Feb.'82). What are the chances the fibre washer needs replacing? Common issue? Source? Cheers, from QC.
There are no fibre washers. There's a good chance the o-rings in the valve and the fuel cap gasket may need to be replaced. Old Coleman Parts sells cap gasket and o-ring kits, but you can find viton o-rings in most auto parts stores.
@@king.coleman Thanks for the quick reply - was not expecting that. Maybe I'm missing something, but at 10:15 you mention "fibre washer" and it is shown in the diagram at 10:17.
@@scratchypants1 Sorry, you''re correct. I forgot which model we were talking about. The o-ring there does the sealing work. The fibre washer shouldn't have any issues.
@@king.coleman thanks wow today i picked a 431 still in box leaks at gernarater knob already now about o rings its almost mint plus a 411 with copper tank both have good presser got both for 20.00 i have a folding coleman table for these stoves plan to use this fall
Not without an adaptor. As you'll notice, these stoves have a tank for liquid fuel and no place to attach a propane canister. There are propane converters/adapters available.
@@julignacio No reason to be afraid of gasoline. It's what the stove was designed for. Both a propane bottle and the stove tank are full of liquid fuel, it's just that one's filled and pressurised in a factory and the other is filled and pressurised by the user.
@@king.coleman Thanks again. Yeah, I'm afraid about filling the tank by myself. I'm afraid about liking. Do you know the capacity of this tank? I believe is more than 1 litre.
@@julignacio I depends on the stove model, but the most common fuel tank size holds about 40 oz. Use a funnel, check the level periodically. The tank doesn't have to be filled all the way. If you spill a little, wipe it up.
I just bought a 432 for 45 dollars it’s in awesome condition, is that a dual fuel??I am going to read the instructions on it today, figured you may know. It was used once.. Great shape
@@twowitnesses2993 Follow the instructions. It was meant to burn white gas. It will run just fine on unleaded pump gas, but it's not strictly speaking a Dual Fuel model as some later stoves are. The Dual Fuel stoves have larger, longer-lasting generators which, in theory, are needed due to the impurities in pump gas which can clog the generator. That said, for those kinds of deposits to become a problem takes many, many hours of use.
@@king.coleman yeah I just finished reading the instructions and that’s what it said. Use Coleman fuel or Naphtha.. once again great video and thanks for the quick response.. :)
The Toronto factory used several different shades of green over the years, so it's going to vary with model and age. Hunter Green is a pretty good match to stoves made in the 50s and 60s, but the lighter green used in the 70s and 80s is difficult to match short of having custom-matched rattle cans made up. I've used Rustoleum Grass Green on a couple of restorations and was happy with it, but it's not exact.
You do a great job showing how all this works and better than anyone else on youtube. I am an old man and you made it very easy for me. I have used coleman stuff in my past but never appreciated the quality in my younger days. I am now 72 andlove the fact that there there is a company out there that makes a product that works for years and does not quit after a few months. I now have 5 stoves and 4 lanterns and all work just fine.
Thank you SO much for this video. My Dad recently gave me his 431 and I absolutely cherish it, but it was having some issues, including staying on after shutting the valve off. I have zero experience working on these and your video has given me renewed hope that I'll be able to keep this stove running for many more years. All the best and thank you again.
Fantastic video. Very thorough with excellent explanation and presentation, loved the schematic/exploded view at 10:15
Thanks a lot! I was looking for information about the sealing between tank and valve. Thougt i had to overrun after a long time working properly. Love this stove!
Working on one of these now, great video. Thanks for the info on the o-rings.
Great video. I wish I’d had this in the 90s when my dad and I were having a bear of a time replacing the generator on the family 431. We ended up breaking the cleaning needle at the valve. We couldn’t find anyone to fix it so bought a then new 431A. I later resurrected the original 431 but with the 431A/425 valve. It’s nice that it works but too bad it isn’t truly easi-lite anymore.
Replacing Easi-lite valves with the older Instant-lite ones was actually pretty common back in the day. In fact, that's what Coleman Canada sent a lot of folks when they failed within warranty. The o-rings in my 433A failed the original owner within the warranty period and Coleman shipped him a valve for a 413. The owner never could figure out how to replace it, so he sold it to me with the new part still boxed up and stored inside the stove.
Once you change the O-rings your stove is set for another 30 years .These things have so few parts and super reliable. I bought five ( ,2-431's a 421A ,421B, 432A,) thinking I could use the parts of one to fix the other but they all work! So I will keep the 431 and I am selling the others and this is certainly not a money making venture as gas stoves from Coleman are really cheap for what you get!
Great video thanks!
Very informative can you do a video as to why the coleman 226 /229 ) lanterns need pumping every 15 mins the dual fuels.?and what can be done to remedy that.
Coleman increased the size of the orifice on the gas tip on the dual fuel models, which results in a faster release of pressure. It's a bad combination when paired with such a small fount. One work-around is to only fill the fount half full, leaving more room for pressurised air. The other is to swap the generator for a 222/222A generator, but those are getting hard to find. That said, people had similar complaints about the 222/222A. When filled, they run bright for 15-20 minutes and then need to be pumped up again. They typically run fine at that point until the fount is empty. The larger orifice in the 226 just amplified the problem.
@@king.coleman ok thank you for that information, and for answering .I understand now.
This is an amazing video thanks so much
Thank you.
im going to try to redo mind this winter tanks for sharing
Hi there. I’m just getting into these Coleman stoves, is there a higher BTU model over other models or are they all the same BTU
Thanks
The output varies. The larger PowerHouse stoves are spec'd at something like 9000 (primary) and 8000 (auxiliary), while the smaller two-burners like the 425 are 7500 and 6500 respectively. Most of the Canadian suitcase stoves (since the mid-60s) will give an overall BTU spec on the front of the case where the model and generator numbers are stamped.
Mine must be the newer ones with the brass fitting. Gonna take it apart one of these days to see what's wrong with it.
Hello I am having trouble sourcing the orings you mention for this stove. Any chance you could post a link where to find them?
I've never ordered them online. Autoparts retailers usually have a good selection of Viton o-rings. That's where I get mine.
Thank you. Found some. This video saved my 431's life.
Great Video. Would you recommend a 431/432 as a suitcase stove over other 'eras'? I'm looking at them in my area, and comparing them to 425/powerhouse vs older models. The objective is to find a low maintenance model to last me for the coming years while camping. But balancing the availability of parts, and overall build quality.
Any Coleman stove is going to hold up well over the long term. The only difference between the Easi-lites (431/432) and the other models is the valve. The Easi-lite valve relies on o-rings and they can go bad. That said, they're not hard to replace. I think the bigger factor is the size. Do you want a compact two-burner (421/431/425) or do you want something bigger (444/432/413)...or three-burner (446/433/426)? I used a 421 for quite a few years as my main camping stove, but eventually switched to a three-burner 446. The larger format stoves can more easily accommodate larger pans and, when using an oven, leave more room to use the other burner(s).
That paper table cloth makes me nervous! REally! And I don't recommed taking apart too much because will it rebuild and be failsafe? in other words, will it be "fuel tight"? and flame-proof except for how it is designed to work? Reason why I ask is because my stove is a bit "corroded"
Wow! Double Rainbow as I am watching this!
If you're not comfortable working on a gas pressure appliance, you probably shouldn't take yours apart. The point of the video is to show folks who to do it properly so they can be confident enough to do it themselves. As far as your stove goes, you'll have to be more specific about the corrosion. Rust on the stove body is pretty much just cosmetic. Rust on the tank may be cosmetic, but it can potentially compromise the tank integrity. If in doubt, pump up the tank and dunk it in a bucket of water to check for leaks. Valves and generators don't usually "corrode". Generators will often have some surface rust, but that's not a problem.
Thanks for your informative video@@king.coleman
New Owner of a 432 here. My stove still sends gas even on off. How easy is it to find the appropriate o-ring or switxh assembly? Also is a newer model gas canister ass compatible with this newer model ?
If it leaks when shut off, you'll need to replace the little o-ring on the backside of the valve stem. You should be able to find them at an auto-supply shop. Just be sure they're made of viton or some other fuel-resistant material. The video will show you how to replace it. If you're talking about disposable propane canisters, you'll need to purchase an adapter.
@@king.coleman thanks alot !!!. For the second question; i was wondering if using a gas can, switch and generator from a newer model would work with the 432.
The tanks, valves, and generators are interchangeable between the Canadian 444, 446, 432, and 433 series stoves and the American 413 and 426 series. While there are some rarer exceptions, there are basically two stove families, the smaller and more common two-burners like the 421, 431, and 425 and the larger "Powerhouse" two- and three-burner stoves like your 432. The large-format stoves have larger fuel tanks and longer generators, so you can't swap parts between the small- and large-format stoves, but you can swap them between models of the same form factor. If you don't like the Easi-lite valve on the 432, you could swap it for a valve from a 444, 446, etc. or you could swap the entire tank/valve/generator assembly.
@@king.coleman Thank you, I have been searching for this info. I have recently been given a 1995 Coleman 413 Powerhouse, I only know it was possibly purchased from Canadian Tire back in the day. Is there a differnce between my stove and American 413 stoves? The original tank appears to have been substitued, the tank has an Easi-lite valve like in your video. Must be the bigger tank for 432/433 because it fits the stove. Can I use this tank and replace the general and valve assembly with for the 413 stove? Thanks from Alberta
@@kevinbuffalo944 If it's a 413, it's an American model. They didn't make that model in Canada and by 1995 they weren't making anything in Canada in anymore. Yes, you can use an Easi-Lite tank on a non-Easi-Lite stove. The valve assemblies are interchangeable.
About to tuck into my recently acquired 431 (date stamp Feb.'82). What are the chances the fibre washer needs replacing? Common issue? Source? Cheers, from QC.
There are no fibre washers. There's a good chance the o-rings in the valve and the fuel cap gasket may need to be replaced. Old Coleman Parts sells cap gasket and o-ring kits, but you can find viton o-rings in most auto parts stores.
@@king.coleman Thanks for the quick reply - was not expecting that. Maybe I'm missing something, but at 10:15 you mention "fibre washer" and it is shown in the diagram at 10:17.
@@scratchypants1 Sorry, you''re correct. I forgot which model we were talking about. The o-ring there does the sealing work. The fibre washer shouldn't have any issues.
what clip did colman use for a the axualery burner to keep from turning knob out to far
It depends on the model. They used a variety of stops through the years.
@@king.coleman thanks wow today i picked a 431 still in box leaks at gernarater knob already now about o rings its almost mint plus a 411 with copper tank both have good presser got both for 20.00 i have a folding coleman table for these stoves plan to use this fall
e clips i found them today
Hello! Please, I need help to understand this stove. I got one used. I haven’t tested yet. I can use one propane cylinder?
Not without an adaptor. As you'll notice, these stoves have a tank for liquid fuel and no place to attach a propane canister. There are propane converters/adapters available.
Thanks for your answer. I’m afraid about liquid fuel. I will try to find a converter.
@@julignacio No reason to be afraid of gasoline. It's what the stove was designed for. Both a propane bottle and the stove tank are full of liquid fuel, it's just that one's filled and pressurised in a factory and the other is filled and pressurised by the user.
@@king.coleman Thanks again. Yeah, I'm afraid about filling the tank by myself. I'm afraid about liking. Do you know the capacity of this tank? I believe is more than 1 litre.
@@julignacio I depends on the stove model, but the most common fuel tank size holds about 40 oz. Use a funnel, check the level periodically. The tank doesn't have to be filled all the way. If you spill a little, wipe it up.
Nice video, can multiple fuels be used with the 432. Curious
The 431 is a gasoline-only burner.
I just bought a 432 for 45 dollars it’s in awesome condition, is that a dual fuel??I am going to read the instructions on it today, figured you may know. It was used once.. Great shape
@@twowitnesses2993 Follow the instructions. It was meant to burn white gas. It will run just fine on unleaded pump gas, but it's not strictly speaking a Dual Fuel model as some later stoves are. The Dual Fuel stoves have larger, longer-lasting generators which, in theory, are needed due to the impurities in pump gas which can clog the generator. That said, for those kinds of deposits to become a problem takes many, many hours of use.
@@king.coleman yeah I just finished reading the instructions and that’s what it said. Use Coleman fuel or Naphtha.. once again great video and thanks for the quick response.. :)
what paint coulor where they
The Toronto factory used several different shades of green over the years, so it's going to vary with model and age. Hunter Green is a pretty good match to stoves made in the 50s and 60s, but the lighter green used in the 70s and 80s is difficult to match short of having custom-matched rattle cans made up. I've used Rustoleum Grass Green on a couple of restorations and was happy with it, but it's not exact.
@@king.coleman thanks
Nice video but hard to hear your instructions.
if your going to make vidoes fix the damn volume, so it can be heard.
If it's not to your liking, feel free to move on. I haven't had any complaints so far and the audio seems just fine as far as I can tell.
@@king.coleman for future reference it is a bit quiet
What a rude clown.
Please fix your audio, invest in a remote michrophone.
This is one of the fist videos I made. I can't fix the old ones, but I do use a better microphone these days.