Is this Leaked GBA emulator for the Switch REALLY made by Nintendo ? | MVG
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Lets take a closer look at Sloop - the Leaked Game Boy Advance GBA Emulator for the Nintendo Switch and determine if its really an internally developed emulator by Nintendo or a clever fake.
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For people who might not know: Sloop is a real english word for a type of boat, which Canoe (SNES) and Hovercraft (N64) also are. I didn't know this either originally.
The naming suggests that it is an emulator that was not originally developed by NERD but took over later.
NERD tends to specifically seperate emulators that are made by them from scratch into the "Hanafuda" naming, while the rest use words that define boats.
Kachikachi (NES), Hachihachi (DS, see Wii U VC), Hagi (GameCube), and the recently leaked Hiyoko (GB/C) are all Hanafuda based names.
Some of the builds of Hiyoko (yes, several were leaked) are actual debug builds with debug information which gives function names and even more information on how it is developed. I have no more doubts on its legitimacy when I took a look into those builds in GHIDRA.
Can you link to these leaked emulators?
@@Bri-MAIN People would not simply upload these files in a website as it is Nintendo copyrighted code, I suggest asking for Discord servers of people who are interested in these things.
incredible.
That would probably explain why the SNES Mini's emulation is nicknamed "Canoe." I can only imagine that if Nintendo went out of their way to develop and release the N64 Mini, the emulator would have probably been named "Hovercraft" as well. That, or just an interesting coincidence
@@Bri-MAIN It is/vp/ thread 50217865.
"Ezkart" is like that time Rockstar Games couldn't remove drm from Max Payne 2 , so they just took a nocd crack from the internet, added steam drm to it and called it their "digital release" even though it was clearly a pirated copy (It was discovered as they did not remove the watermark left by the cracking group)
What the hell, how dare R* steal from small indie creators like that.
@Gomam0n I think they did fix it as I played through the steam build like 5 days ago , and surprisingly I only had to install widescreen fix , the game had no other issues.. And I did compare it to the retail build , the file sizes were same. But Max Payne 1 on the other hand , wasn't very good even after applying the definitive fix.. Whenever there was intense gunfight scene , the game would outright crash..
The beat way is to buy the original disc and play it on PC.
@@danieljimenez1989 Won't work , as the original disk uses securom drm
@@tamoghnapal6619 you mean the original game disc won't run if it is in the disc drive?
if someone builds something they think others would like, but the boss doesnt want it out. it'd be a shame if it leaked and demand was made clear, and the work was largely already done ;)
Like Goldeneye XBLA
pretty sure nintendo doesn't need any market research about possibility for bringing gba games to switch, they've already done it on virtual consoles on wii, wiiu, 3ds... the only thing they're thinking about is how to make most money out of the punters with it, put it on nintendo online or piecemeal games on the shop.
Nah, that's an Xbox or PS4 thing, Nintendo knows who is working on what and who leaked what. They are crazy.
Reminds me of when they showed the pilot shoot for Deadpool nobody knew who leeked it but there was so much demand for it that the executives were convinced into actually making the movie and it then became the #1 R-rated ever and got a sequel that did even better
For a second I thought I posted this and was confused.
All this “Nintendo wouldn’t use something like a flash cart” assumes that Nintendo is a singular organism with one consistent personality.
Companies are made up of people, with their own ideas, motives, and ethics. So, maybe “Nintendo” is against flash carts, but Fred in QA might have quite the fondness for them.
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Also didn't they used some dumped ROM in Mario 3D collection or something like that ?
@@michalko93 you might be thinking about the apparent pirated copies of nes games on the Wii's virtual console
Basically the roms had the same headers pirated roms (something to do with an early nes emulator needing extra info about the expansion chips some games had) had which would seem to be pretty solid evidence if it weren't for the fact Nintendo hired the person who made that emulator and they just did the same thing for Nintendo's virtual console emulator
I’m pretty sure flashcarts are also commonly used by developers, both for emulation and even for modern game development purposes. Emulation is obvious enough; the ability to conveniently test ROMs back to back on original hardware without needing to pull out large and clunky devkits or several original game carts that you may or may not even have makes sense. It expedites the development process and makes it easier to see if you’re accurately capturing what the original hardware is doing. As for modern game development, both flashcarts and emulators help give developers new ideas. By allowing them to test out several old retro games, they can take influence from those games and incorporate ideas from them into their own projects. Many game developers have said that if it weren’t for this, many of their ideas wouldn’t have been able to be formed or inspired in a more modern or well designed way.
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I had doubts too because of the ezflash, but glad you did the research on this. Still gonna have doubts until it releases though.
Not only did they have the changelog, some asshole on the 4chan somehow stole "Laurent's" login for Nintendo's/NERD servers, so it's real without a doubt
I believe that it's real, but I don't believe that it'll ever see any form of retail release
@@RandomizationShow I'm sure it's "real" as in it's a real emulator. But I see 0 chance this ever coming to NSO. This is absolutely only for internal usage, and maybe for other game devs that want to "port" a GBA game to the Switch. (For example the Castlevania games)
@@GrimlandCS What makes you believe that?
@@jgodden8022 if you had the opportunity to make a ton of money from a ton of games, wouldn't you?
There should be a lot of bureaucracy in Nintendo to get access to their own ROM library and old devkits. To me, it isn't weird at all that NERD has used flashcarts, they're in Europe and getting access from games that probably are in Japan could take a long time. Their goal is possibly to finish the emulator as soon as possible, and using unofficial stuff that is already on the web can accelerate that process.
I think the agreement should be that emulators and roms are allowed to circulate and official brands can use code from those emulators as long as they don't shut them down.
MVG has covered the use of third party development tools at big studios (e.g. using a Dr. V64 as a devkit when N64 devkits were expensive and in short supply), so I wouldn't at all be surprised if Nintendo just ordered a bunch of flash carts from somewhere because it's faster, cheaper and "good enough" to do what they were looking for. And who is gonna sue them for doing so?
@@hayaokakizaki4463 emulators teachically aren't illegal, it depends on what you do with it. The first DOS was an emulator that was written so Bill gates could use software for a college assignment
@@miniandrewmini1 I don't care whether emulators are legal or not, that has no effect on my using them.
@@hayaokakizaki4463 In an ideal world, but you forgot that those works are still copyrighted material. An that's why, in a legal state, companies have the right to claim their IPs
4:38 Someone correct me, but I think Nintendo is talking out of their a** here. "Game copiers that are used to copy ... are illegal". I was under the impression that creating your own personal backup of a game (ripping it yourself) is legal. As is emulation. Or at the very least, isn't explicitly illegal. It is the distribution of said backups that is illegal. Am I wrong here?
You’re right and/or it’s a gray area, even legally. Nintendo’s statement is definitely a biased take
You're correct in most western countries.. however nintendo places these TOS based on their japan laws, which it is very much NOT LEGAL. Apparently in japan a copyright owner can control 100% of what people do with their copyrights. This includes blocking all parody or review or any similar content.
They are /technically/ legal, it's a bit of a grey area. Under the pretense that you're simply backing it up for personal use or posterity, that's fine. If you were to, say, distribute said game? You in hot water
Entirely depends on your country. For example in the US it's legal to make personal backups, but in the UK that's illegal
Game companies who are against piracy often also benefit from hardware and software developed to accomplish it. Games have been ported to steam bearing razor1911 cracked code in the executables to remove old and obsolete drm, developers for N64 games famously often used piracy carts because Nintendo couldn't supply enough devkits and materials, unsupported game mods have been used to influence features in the sequels, etc.
yeah this exactly is why im boycotting nintendo. If they benefit from emulation MAYBE, just MAYBE they should stop acting like it is the worst thing in the world
They are within their rights, you can't pirate your own IP.
Yup, the companies that hate emulation, use it them selves. Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo all use emulation. The Zelda collection on the Gamecube is the first time Nintendo used emulation, I think.
@@danieljimenez1989 you dont get it do you
@@mrbisshie Animal Crossing made use of emulation before that (by ~1 year I think).
Though I'll admit the Zelda collection was much... bolder, in comparison.
Seeing as it was emulating their previous home console and a game that was barely 3 years old by then.
Nintendo used roms off the internet for nes classic. It's not far fetched that they would use a flash cart for ease of development.
Are you sure about that? Is that actual fact? - or are you just bumping that same false Wii VC rumour forward a decade?
@@SNMG7664 Probaby the rumor comes from the existence of the .nes header which is metadata describing the circuitry of the original cartridge.
@@soundspark the guy who responsible for that works for Nintendo now.
@@SNMG7664 it’s not a fact at all
This is clearly an internal testing tool, not something players would actually get. The games would be packaged the same way the ones for other consoles are, using this emulator's core but a different UI.
Very true. And while using an ezflash would sound unorthodox, Nintendo would likely have needed to make new development tools for a small team to use to make the emulator. Since the ezflash for GBA is still being sold at about $60US, all the team would need are a few of them and some small micro SD cards, not even beyond 4GB, honestly. That saves thousands in R&D and manufacturing to make their own tool to handle the exact same thing.
Why not use the stuff they already had for GBA development? Long story short, they may not have it anymore and it wasn't the ideal solution due to the outdated technology causing unnecessary time loss due to lack of capacity and transfer speeds.
And anything NSO honestly seems to be developed on a tighter budget, thus the unfortunate problems cropping up upon first release. You know, like missing fog effects or no option to turn off that control info at the bottom of the screen.
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Guess this video didn’t aged well, literally most of the leaked roms from this video where shown today in the direct
Came back here just to say that owning a switch is going to be more fun with the recent announcements!
I mostly feel bad for the folks at NERD who were working on this, because I expect this leak to lead to some workplace drama and headaches.
This might come as a surprise, but not everyone related to emulation is a vapid, pink-haired femboy. More than likely, they will investigate the leak and make security or staff changes as necessary.
It might have been a proposal prototype - many development companies make proposals to others in the form of prototypes. Perhaps this one part of NERD were working on it in an attempt to capture the internal Nintendo port contracts
9 months later, we indeed got GBA on NSO
IMO The inclusion of homebrew stuff makes sense. If it was a fake they would want people to think it's legit and not include this stuff, they wouldn't want to shoot themselves in the foot
Maybe they did so because they're playing 5D chess with us and left the homebrew to make us think "a leak that tries to look legit would totally remove these"
I think it just points to NERD being pretty smart with their resources in regards to the flashcarts, since it’s the legal department that wrote up and enforces Nintendo’s stances on emulation/piracy; they’re not going to sue themselves.
Exactly. NERD may not have access to original GBA dev tools anymore (it seems like they do have some internal test ROMS, but not everything, as evidenced by the 160p Test Suite). The department purchasing a flashcart would be fairly reasonable for internal testing, and politics regarding flashcarts and homebrew dev tools within NERD are likely going to be different to the Nintendo corporate politics.
but still they're being hypocrites
@@cydragon2.099 It's fair to assume that a lot of people working on Nintendo don't agree with their policies on that subject, I find it hard to call it "hypocrisy" because it's putting a statement from the company as portrayed by its legal and marketing teams against the individuals working there, but it is embarrassing because it proves that even them can benefit from the tools the company fight against
@@meikaishi and at the same time it's funny
@@cydragon2.099 It really is, I wish someone went into Nintendo and gave them a presentation about how fucking terrible is the company image in the whole world because of their dumb decisions
I just want a physical Switch cart full of GBA games on it. I'm glad Capcom did the Mega Man Zero collection and Konami made Castlevania Advance Collection, but there's still a lot of great games I'd like to see come over to Switch
Buy a moddable switch and you can play any GBA game you want, and way more
@@RandomizationShow and Nintendo DS games as well :)
If a Battle Nettwork Collection unfortunately, doesn't happened, this could be a close second.
Eww why when Steam Deck emulation is better
@@heisenbergwhite00 Not everyone has a Steam Deck.
About the git change log.
While it could be very well be legit, if it's just the .git folder without any repo working-dir content for any commit, then it wouldn't be hard to fake.
One could produce such a .git commit log by making a local repo, with your name and email set in your local git user config (or even at the per-repo config level) to match that of a known (or maybe even made up) Nintendo dev, while having your clock set to a past time (or it could have been done in 2020) and just make various random commits.
Well specifically if you have the whole .git folder, you can reproduce the whole repo by just typing git reset --hard. The .git folder contains everything needed to bring the repo back.
I find accidentally including the .git folder to be oh so suspicious. The reason being that if you make a build from your source, you would likely then send specifically the files needed for runtime, and nothing else. It'd be quite hard to accidentally include the .git folder.
Unless the contents of the flash were the entire contents of the git repo. In which case, the source would be there too (why would you use a git repo for the binaries only?).
Seems a bit suspicious to me. Can't comment more though because I've not seen the contents.
EDIT: Just to add, I know nothing about this emulator, or anything in terms of switch emulators. Only emulation on the PC. So, this comment is purely about the git folder.
Nintendo’s lawyers are watching this closely
I'm surprised that the R4 seller lost in court as indicated in that article excerpt. Australia is well known as a location where interop is a permitted use, such as the popular network sharing service software, SAMBA.
"Incredibly embarrassing for them [to be found to be using EzyFlash (sic) cartridges]"
Isn't this the business that was caught using third party code for a previous emulator? Like most businesses I suspect that the internal and external stances on things are a little different.
Um, no? The closes I can find is that third party publisher Imagineer published Medarot Classics Plus on the Nintendo Switch in Japan, which used the mGBA emulator without proper credit. But that's Imagineer's mistake/fault, not Nintendo.
Not just that, they've used ROMS with Emuparadise headers. Shameless hypocrites lmao
@@RandomizationShow i only remember the whole iNES header but even if they did? So what, its their code and or game or whatever third party game. You don't actually own the software.
@@Krushak8888 The point is, don't say "don't drink and drive" just to then down your beer and get in your car
Not only did they say you can't drink and drive, they also said "give me your keys and I'll drive you home" while they're drinking your drink and then charging you for the taxi ride.
They're pirating the game they say you can't pirate, then charging you for the privilege to play their pirated game on only their hardware.
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...Gameboy Advance emulator gets leaked into the open...
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"mistakes were made"
Metroid Zero Mission, Astro Boy Omega Factor, Megaman BTN, WarioLand 4, Pokemon Pinball, Pokemon Emerald. When you stop to remember that these games exist on the GBA, you remember how amazing this console's library is.
You slipped and forgot Metroid Fusion, Castlevania (all three of them), Minish Cap, The gba final fantasy releases including FFT, Kirby, Sonic, the entire nintendo/famicom classics series, the super nintendo mario and zelda games that were ported over ....
@@Avrysatos if i was to say all of GBAs great games, the list would never end, but your right with your selections.
@@saintjinnn5106 Yeah, you know what? There's a lot of decent ds and 3ds games too but far more gba games. I still have my gba sp in the famicom colors of this kind of cream white and red. (I was in japan in 2004 and wanted to upgrade to a backlit screen) but I ended up using my DS more after awhile since it played both ds and gba games.
I miss when nintendo had dedicated handhelds no the switch does not count.
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Concerning the EZ flash and homebrew stuff there's a simple, if morally objectionable, counterargument: "It's okay when we do it". And that's totally the Nintendo way.
It's ethically dubious, not morally objectionable.
They aren't pirating their own games though. They are using Flash hardware to test their emulators. They own the copyrights to the software so it's not a moral or ethical quandary.
Now, I really would like to know Nintendo's reaction towards this, seeing as (supposedly) their own R&D uses/references a flashcart, one of the things they hate most.
It is okay to download what you own though. So it is definitely okay when they do it because they are the legitimate owners of the games.
But even if that were not the case, this is an employee doing it, not the company as a whole. You think just because someone is a Nintendo (or Sony, Sega, MS, etc) employee that means they automatically stop pirating games?
@@jgodden8022 I don't have anything against/for either phrase. I also like "bad".
Been waiting for your thoughts, great video!
Sloop was spotted prior to NSO being launched as a whole. Kakashi was the dev name for the NES, Canoe for the Snes and both were datamined weeks in advance.
Something interesting that you didn't mention about Sloop is a priority in the games list. Each game had a priority, either A or B, and I can only assume the A priority games would have been on a GBA Online service first with B ones being considered later, or not even included.
I did manage to install Sloop on my softmodded Switch and something to take note is Sloop does not save SRAM/FLASH/EEPROM Data upon closing the application. So if you saved your game in Zelda, then closed the app and came back, there would be no save data. Sloop doesn't even create sava data on the Switch, and if you attempt to create save states in Sloop, the application crashes.
Now these could be because of how Sloop was re-compiled with retail keys so it can be installed on a retail system, or it could be because saving is not implemented in the test.
There are some test scenerios in Sloop that involve running 2 instances of the emulator on the same Switch to do trades (maybe Pokemon?) and some that do link cable over the internet for multiplayer!
As someone who has done software developer work for companies before, I don't feel that just because there are references to EZFlash and open source tools here that it would invalidate the work being by Nintendo.
To me, this seems like a proof of concept. I've put together projects before on my own as well as part of a small group that started like that. A big part of it is to show a working prototype to higher ups and to be able to speak to costs and time. Sometimes that requires using tools that may not be completely kosher, but wouldn't influence the project itself beyond the pitch. In a situation like this, Nintendo, especially those who would build a proof of concept, know how passionate the community is about emulation perfection. Using the same tools that the community uses would just be obvious.
That being said, there is no guarantee that this emulator will make it into NSO. If it is a proof of concept, this could be the foundation, the real thing could be something totally different, or Nintendo may not have even been satisfied if it was used for a project pitch.
EZF have been with the GBA sinc now 20+ years.
Maybe Ninty acknowledges that ? :p
I love the story numbers in brackets for each commit. SCRUM? KANBAN?
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Can't help but notice that the copyright text is (c) and not © which Nintendo has used from way back in the NES
don't forget that Pokémon sword shield leaked beta used imgui as well
iirc, one of the hiring pages for Nintendo shows imgui being used also. I believe this is still the case. you can check imgui issues for the showcase issue
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looks like this was a leaked emulator!
The inclusion of the EZFlash image doesn't neccesarily indicate their internal purchase/use of that brand of flash cart. Using a flash cart or similar device to test on real hardware seems like good move for development, and perhaps the devs just googled for an image to put there and the ez flash popped up first.
Or maybe they really did use EZFlash. They're still readily available for purchase by anyone and shipment in under a week many places. The official Nintendo GBA flashcarts are at the very least in some box buried in a dusty corner of a warehouse that the NERD team developing this probably didn't have access to.
... Or they've recognized that modern EZFlash is a better product than their two decade old dev cartridges. The official flashcarts needed a probably parallel port based device to write a ROM onto them, so you need to find the writer devices, something with a parallel port, and the old software to use it. Or you can just drag your ROM onto an SD card.
If they add GB/GBC/GBA (remember, GBA was backwards compatible so they may really be adding all 3 in one go), NSO+ would actually be worth its price.
Nah, when they nuked the switch eshop and go full sub-service you will realize it's all a mistake.
GBA actually used a separate CPU for backwards compatibility IIRC so they would likely be different emulators. I believe the GB/GBC cartridges physically depressed a switch on the GBA that booted it into backwards compatibility mode and triggered the older CPU
already worth the price its with acnh dlc + mk dlc and now splatoon 3 dlc thats least 30-40 bux
GBA emulation only works with GBA games unfortunately. You'd need a GBC emulator for GB and GBC compatibility.
All I personally make of this is that working at NERD seems pretty cool, they clearly don't have Nintendo constantly breathing down their necks given their work is never supposed to see the light of day, if anything I'm glad we got to experience the work of these obviously very talented people who probably usually don't get any recognition at all :)
Was there anything interesting about the Phillips CD-i that you know of? Doesn't look like there's any emulators that really work. One of my cousins grandfather gave our family one back some time around when it came out, i guess, im 31 now so i was pretty young when I played it. I only remember ever playing one game on it, The Apprentice, but i played it until the top part of the joystick broke and even for a while after with the broken stick. Been playing games ever since but that is my all time favorite out of anything i've played. I wish I could find a console and copy of the game
Great insights as always!
I don't think we would see Game Boy and GBA at the same time. I also think the earliest we would see a new addition to the NSO emulators would be at the end of this year.
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That Gameboy Color Zelda title screen screenshot seems to have some kind of color correction, which I would fine really shocking to be a feature in an emulator developed by (or for) Nintendo.
So when you were a developer for Shantae did you use the provided emulator in the switch dev kit?
The jira style tag of "Fixes SLOOP-###" is all you need to see
There is Nintendo Switch Online maintenance tomorrow, do you think GBA/GB games will finally arrive tomorrow? I hope so.
Is this one gonna have local multiplayer between 2 separated Switches or is it gonna be internet dependent?
Theyre already using that ImGUI, wouldnt be out of the question if they used a flashcard to make testing easier
(Not to mention game studios in the early 2000s are still pretty bad at preserving their source codes)
Vicarious Visions used DS flash carts in the development of the Guitar Hero On Tour games.
Playing it now. This emulator runs so smooth. Hopefully this pushes them to get us GBA for their online service. I wonder if anyone has figured out if you can swap the roms with others?
can u send me the download? I have a modded switch and would like to try it out
can you edit RevengeOfShinobi(adding karate kick/punch moves for example flyingKick and silent assasinating from back of enemy) and/or beats of rage remix 3(adding san goku, HeishiroMitsurugi, JinKazama, HulkHogan, Kratos etc.) ?
it still feels weird for it to be legit. But with work-from-home, it’s easier to leak stuff too, so I’m kinda torn
That's your bum hole that's torn.
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Game Boy will likely come to standard plan with GBA coming to the Expansion Packs
i have a felling that the gb and gba emulators will only be Expansion Pack
I’m hoping more that Gameboy comes to standard, and Gameboy Color to the expansion. The GBA kinda sucked
@HoloKola there’s nothing really good in its library they’re all just inferior ports and remakes of NES and SNES games. Only thing it has going for is it can tap into the GB and GBC’s excellent libraries and even then it being widescreen and feeling worse in the hand makes it the worst way to play those games lol.
@@Benzona I know we're in the minority but I can agree lol. Lot of butchered ports like you mentioned, and the GBA soundchip is so bad it's nearly intolerable, for that alone I preferred Gen 2 Pokemon lol. And you have to truly be a madman to play GB games in widescreen
Pretty sure if it was fake there would already be Retail NSPs you could install on your modded retail switch. Not something you have to screw around with for hours to try and get running.
A fake would want to be installed and running by as many people as possible, so...
"Laurent's" NERD/Nintendo login was also leaked, they were one of the people in the changelog so fair to assume it's 100% real
Seeing things like Super Robot Taisen OG, Gunstar Super Heroes and Astro Boy: Omega Factor has me both concerned and hyped...
It’s jus funny to me that Nintendo’s versions of gb and gba still isn’t a thing on switch so many years after relase. Seem like such obvious choice to get this stuff on the console natively, without 3rd party emulators.
Not like switch lacks power or it’s hard to emulate, gb games run on calculators nowadays.
It’s their console, their system that they developed, just silly to me it even takes them to long
The problem is most likely online integration. And you know how well Nintendo and online go together.
@@CarbonRollerCaco Is not a nintendo and online situation as its probably hard to emulate the link cable. Their online is good when they actually use servers IE MK8/Splatoon
I hope you make a video about the Playdate and how to run an emulator to it.
A minor point, but some of the commit messages reference what looks like JIRA issue numbers. This is consistent with Sloop being an internal-only project, as I just can't believe Nintendo uses JIRA for their internal bug-tracking for production games and services. I'd honestly expect them to use an idiosyncratic customized version of bugzilla they've been dragging around since the early 2000s. Besides the issue count (3 digits) is really on the low side for developing an emulator from scratch.
This is the one channel ive been waiting to cover this topic - especailly with that EZFlash curveball. But....its plausable right? grabs cup of tea and sits down
I'm not going to believe it until it happens, no matter how badly I want it to be real. Literal years of "Switch Pro 'leaks'" have proven that.
It can still be real and nothing happens. The build date for these was in *2020*.
@@Minty_Meeo Fair. It could just be like, an internal testing thing that was never meant for any other purpose than simple internal testing. Maybe it was just like one random dev at Nintendo's pet project lol.
8:12 Lol, the default shader hard coded into the binary.
Nice i can finaly finish the medabots game when or if it ever comes out.
I think this was made as a test like battle network 2 was there and there is a collection coming out
Is the 240p test suit licenced under the GPL ? If it is then they could be in quite a bit of trouble .
The GPL only comes into play if you "distribute" the software to end consumers. Since this was a leak, Nintendo didn't actually distribute it, and thus isn't beholden to the GPL. Google and Facebook use this loophole with GPL software they customize and run on their servers. Since it's all internal, they don't have to open-source their changes.
Like you said it feels to me that this was some kind of validation toolkit and so they figured that if none of the is code would touch the final product why not use community made tools like ez flash and 240 to make their lives easier. "No one in Japan has to find out were using ez flash guys just don't let the program leave these walls"
Seems legit, a lot of the debug UI is inline with what was seen in the leaked pokemon sword and shield prototype
is Nintendo a git shop? I thought for sure they’d be on P4, especially if they’re working on projects where they’re checking in image and rom assets
6:14 you said ported over to the twitch when I know you meant switch.
Ahh to see Dril dozer in there, it seems someone at Nintendo europe still cares about it, would be amazing to see on switch so i can pester everyone to play it without having to buy an expensive cartridge.
I was thinking about this today!
I just finished Metroid Dread and was kinda bummed out that I could not play Metroid Fusion.
TH-cam gave me a Nintendo Switch ad half way into this video.
Because they use your data....
@@mikeuk666 That or it is their way of finding out who is leaking this information somehow, and the feds are gonna be busting down our doors in the near future..... hold one, someone's at my door....
I bet they don't want to get called out for having double standards so I don't know at this point
This isn't Nintendo making it, it's NERD, and Nintendo literally refused to give them jack shit, no GBA devkit, no source code, nothing. They're completely on their own so they use both a flashcart and PC emulator to test everything
And I've heard that Mario 3d all stars has pirated games with headers from Emuparadise, so they've already been exposed as hypocrites lol
Considering the number of times that Nintendo and their developers have needed to resort to relying upon and/or looking up outside tools and community efforts in order to make emulation or recreation of their older games possible, and their emulation efforts have seemed to get worse, or at least become more generic instead of optimized per game, unless NERD or a third party steps in, I think Nintendo needs to to stop with the hyperbolic PR statements and FAQs over ROMs and emulators. Not saying that they should start publicly telling people it's okay, but simply quit with the façade that they themselves aren't emulating games and using the public's efforts in some ways to improve it; in the last few years, people have been able to datamine and leak a number of things that show quite a bit of hypocrisy between their words and practices, and with the reveal of Sloop to the public it just hammers that point even further.
In fairness, NCL in Japan can't micromanage everything all the time even if they wanted, and Satoru Iwata was more openly pro-fanwork than Nintendo's other heads.
The VPN masking IP is great but if a streaming service identifies a domain as a VPN they block it anyway. I have experienced it.
7:47 +0200 indicates GMT+2 timezone, which is CEST (European summer-time). 0700 indicates GMT+7 which is a bit strange, as that's not a part of Europe nor Japan (though I guess an employee could've been traveling or something).
Europe/Paris timezone is at UTC +2 from March to October.
@@Seboss38 yeah so? Have you read the comment?
I feel Nintendo is making those emulators for the NSO since it would give them a tighter excuse against ROM piracy of such consoles. Also money.
Would be nice if you could buy the games individually on NSO. I don't wanna rent them...
Agreed. I'll just continue to pirate them, since nobody will sell them. As Gabe Newell once correctly said, piracy is a service problem.
@@mjc0961 why not do the same for food then
They apparently didn't make enough money on the Virtual Console to make it's continued upkeep profitable, so the subscription service with guaranteed revenue was the way ahead. Sad, but that's how the market goes.
Can you make a video on the bloodborne PSONE demake, I'd like to hear your thoughts on it.
9:10 Earthquake?
This is rather interesting. And I honestly believe that Nintendo is ok with their use of the flash cart, and for good reason. It would be quite expensive to make new hardware to help them compare the emulator's accuracy against the real thing. Since ezflash is one of the cheaper flash cart manufacturers for GBA still being produced, using them seems like a good idea. Besides, I don't know how many people are actually involved in the project. As I don't have details, it could likely just be a handful. It would be rather ridiculous to make brand new testing tools if they aren't necessary.
And honestly, Nintendo would be fools to scrap the project due to the leak. Game Boy fans are popping up left and right, chatting about how awesome it would be to have games from the entire Game Boy line playable on their Switch. It's essentially hype they didn't have to pay for. If anything, if this was fake or unapproved, it has shown them that there's a market and they need to get on top of it.
If it's just for internal testing, it may have been easier to bolt the homebrew UI to it than to make it work comfortably within the full Nintendo SDK
@MVG were the devs actually using GPG keys when updating their code/commits? That would be the proof needed, to be quite honest. I never really commit code without using my GPG key.
A DS emulator on the switch would be amazing as well, but it would only be decent in portable mode for some games, like WarioWare: Touched. On TV it could work by using the right joystick as a cursor and using either the triggers or the the joystick button to emulate a touch. Perhaps motion controls would even be better, if not too sensitive!
but still, I doubt seeing it coming, uneless if the library is very limited.
Sounds crazy but if they really want the full DS experience intact they should create a dockable "DS classic" with joycon rails on the side. And just like the DS it'd be 2 square screens with a hinge mechanisms and a pen slot. if they were smart, they'd do something like this as an accessory, and make the next generation of consoles in mind with DS/3DS emulation.
Only problem would be getting the rights to a whole bunch of ROMS (if they take the same approach as NES/SNES classic) but if they want to preserve those games without forcing people to play with wonky controls, I think this would be the way to do it
They would make it work somehow, for example some top down shooters have a portrait mode in portable mode where if you flip/hole the system sideways it gives you more screen for a portrait view that would fit the duel screen set up of the ds
WarioWare also needs the microphone. For Mike's games you could get away with just mapping a button to blowing, but there were also toys in there that reacted differently to the volume of the sound or actually recorded you and played it back
NERD was behind the 3DS and Wii U emulation right?
I very much doubt Nintendo would cancel this because it leaked. Either they’ll decide the business case justifies going forward with the project or not, but the fact that it got leaked doesn’t really change whether they think it’ll make them money or not
Can’t wait to play Metroid fusion again
Can't wait to buy another switch online membership just so I can get access!
Wow, only took em 20 years yo catch up
Nice video!!! Even though I don't have a Switch, that looks interesting...
I also wonder if someone from NERD decided to leak something like this, maybe to force Nintendo to at least consider moving in this direction (meaning, to force them to release GBA games on NSO). Or maybe they just wanted to test people's reactions before they decide whether to go ahead or not...
You're the first youtube that gave me a valid reason for a vpn (regarding the spying stuff not the geoblocking part) in his surf shark ad segment (old unsecured websites). it's great to see that at least some people really understand what they are talking about. subscribed now just because of this
While this is all interesting, I don't have NSO anymore since I don't use it. Though Golden Sun being on it would be a reason to get it I guess.
I wonder if we can play multiplayer, wireless multiplayer
Considering this was dumped from a console it may have been on purpose, sorta like the bar that new Apple devices kept getting "lost" at.
I tried SurfShark but it didn't work for me. Incredibly slow at busy hours and had trouble downloading files (corrupt files). There are way better options out there.
I think there's some one in reaaaal trouble at NERD.
Holy crap, this one joke picture could backfire badly, poor guy!