Appreciate the efforts and research you put in every video. subscribers count should be and must be more than many of us who are still in learning phase.. I wish you more success Brother..
Finally someone has spoken the truth!!! :) Whats more interesting is that HMT watches are being sold out within minutes of listing and then they are available for black in HMT watches and HMT brotherhood groups.. This is an artificial, profit making bubble that some cheaters who has 0% interest in HMT or Indian made mechanical watches are creating. Better to move to Alba and Seiko entry level instead of spending 10k on some cheaply assembled watch with 0 production and quality control.
Totally agreed with your stand ...🔥. HMT was known for providing mechanical watch at budget.... As it's popular watch JANTA stands for.... For normal people.... But now they are just playing with the emotions of buyers... We want to purchase something that's ours , as an Indian product... After these type of tactics we are losing interest in HMT day by day .... Why would we buy HMT at 6.5 k or 10 k ... ?🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️?? And that too after looking at their quality control / check .... There are many brands at that price point providing better quality watches...
Agreed, this scam started from 2022 and it will be exposed soon. HMT watches are low on quality and no one values them in international market no matter if its made by the hmt chairman himself. There were hardly any price appreciations until 2021 and suddenly this scam started. Try selling hmt at 10k to an experienced watch maker in real world (not online) and I can guarantee one will get a tight slap....lol.
Bravo ! Brilliant video. You have echoed my sentiments perfectly in this video. I agree 100% with every word you have said in this one. I got really annoyed with the groups as well to the point that I have considered leaving. Also your opinion on manufactured vs assembled is spot on. I have also come to a similar conclusion. I got a Kohinoor made from Vimal Sharmaji as well. Got it today. And I also bought a couple of used old HMTs from 80s and 90s as I considered them to be the actual genuine ones. Just like you have given a budget of 4K I have also said 3K to be the max that should be spent on these old mechanical watches. For the time being I am also sort of done and if I do buy more I will be either getting more made from Vimal Sharmaji or used ones from 80s,90s etc. Also for anyone new to HMTs just avoid hyped models like Kohinoor, Janata and Pilot and it will be more enjoyable. I have a Maurya, Vijay that I got for less than 2k combined and I am very satisfied. Great job once again Sourabh ji. Looking forward to more good content like this.
Thank you so much Sir ❤ The way these FB groups are run and the rules, clearly indicates that the sole purpose is creating a hype for so called original products which are ultimately third-party vendor made with extremely bad quality checks and secondly discouraging people to opt for the value for money options by tagging them fake or aftermarket 😅. And no one is allowed to constructively challenge their yardstick with logic. Its a mechanism to extract money from common watch lovers who are relatively less knowledgeable about the market price of watch parts. Can anyone show an evidence of any hmt handwinding watch being sold at 4k or above in 2021 or prior? So clearly its an intentionally and calculated bubble beeing created which will burst at some point and those who are spending high price for those cheap quality watches now, will ultimately suffer.
@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial I got the same feeling . Admins and mods pumping prices and telling people a 10k sale is good and will be worth 15k in 3 months. Meanwhile some guy selling his watch at 1k is being interrogated about his watch. I bought a Kohinoor because i liked the look and it came in nos condition . One of the first comments I got was from someone from these groups saying case is not original, hands are not right etc etc. I banned them instantly :) I was overall extremely disappointed with these FB groups. I can understand people obsessing about originality for a Rolex or Rado but for a 2-3k HMT ? Its silly. People use HMT watches to practice repairing learning etc because they are cheap. Talking to people in real life also don't seem to value them much. I just wanted to own a few because of the hand wind movement, the vintage looks and story of HMT. It was never about quality. At the end of the day i will consider them if i see one i like at an affordable price and i don't really care about originality. Afterall HMT was made to provide affordable mechanical timepieces to the common man.
I feel your sentiment brother.. I also got bullied in a group when I shared my watch collection photo and they told me to tag it as AM. So I deleted my posts. Thanks for speaking out this important topic.
I think I remember your post. Was it the one where you had a nice Casio Royale on a strap. If it was i remember how all they kept saying "your watches are AM" etc. Very unfriendly environment and not at all helpful or welcoming to new collectors.
@@LBGWatch no that was another instance. I didn't deleted that post but yesterday I uploaded my SOTC2023 collection and the admin commented and told me to tag AM watches as AM or MoD so I got frustrated. It's not like I was selling them or anything so I deleted that post. And tell him to be happy with his so-called og Watches.
Also , Daarun Video - ( Excellent video) This video actually helps people make an informed decision, the Hype does create the fear of missing out. Like you said, you have a ceiling fro 4 thousand and I have the Ceiling for 7. Only and IF only I am getting the exact one I want.
Bahut hi badiya video bhai aapne toh pol hi kholdi Hmt walo ki , tabhi bolo itna demand hone k bawjod hamesh unavailable rehti market hype karne k liye or mehnga bechne k liye , but bhai mein late hogaya 3 din pehle hi hmt kedar liya Rs.7355 mein but mujhe lagra hai worth hai , rado homage, stainless steel case , 8205 movement hacking or winding , but jhalak in 10000 usse acha timex ka marlin lelo ya seiko ka sabse base automatic version.... Bhai divine se jo pilot liya hu uska lume bahut badiya hai or yeh hmt kedar se ...
Rahil bhai, thank you so much. You help me every day with invaluable information about so many sources to procure watch accessories at reasonable cost, thanks for being an integral part of this channel bhai.
Its seems you just woke up and chose violence😂, its nice to see someone speaking facts. One more info, the serviced movements are available for 300-350 which is much lower than 500, and the aftermarket dials present in 1k aftermarket watches also have sunburst effect, the finish will depend on the dial you choose. I won’t mention anyone, but some collectors are justifying their hate for aftermarket HMTs saying that people are cheated by sellers selling aftermarket as # “genuine HMT” and their strict rules will help new watch collectors. Now I have seen same people hyping up the prices. In what way their action of justifying high price will help new collectors? No no. They are definitely not collectors, who are passionate and welcoming. They are just investors who dont care about the community and value their personal interests only. In fact the more prices rise up, the demand for aftermarkets will only increase. If original ones were available for 3k the aftermarket business would not have been much profitable. If they truly cared about the community and collecting they should have banned prices more than MRP for new watches. Their tactics favour sellers and not true collectors. True watches lovers dont buy watches just to sell.
Thank you so much bhai, you know that we are on same page and you keep helping me with so many useful information about different sources to procure value for money watches and straps and we are happy about what we get at that price. Thanks bhai for always being there beside me on this research, I sincerely acknowledge your contribution to help me to reach to the conclusion which all are agreeing. You have been an integral part of this channel bhai and thank you once again.
Every word in the video that you spoke is ABSOLUTE TRUTH. Majority of so called HMT collectors are hypocrite. They are just trying to mint money. One of the Collector asked for 16000 for his old used Sona 😂 Like you said, HMT isn't worth the money if you cross 4-5k.... it's better to look for other brands which provide far more superior quality watches. Aftermarket HMT watches aren't too bad, I was able to get few around 1000-1200 with transparent case back. HMT watches are nothing but riding on hype, some say they sell watches on commission to resellers using backdoor. Hence you will see few folks will always keep on listing new watches for sale at exorbitant prices. HMT's online sale for mechanical watches is farce, I have hardly seen a genuine person getting that watch. Nevertheless, time has come to say bye bye to HMT mechanical watches and move on.
Nicely said. USP of HMT watches were their value for money and watch on common man's wrist was their moto - clearly the new chairman is highly under the influence of advisors who are running their hidden agenda to earn heavy profit, and ultimately destroying the originality of HMT watches. Unless this mistake is rectified, the brand will be vanished totally when this scam is exposed.
Respect to this video brother. Really appreciate your thought process. This helps new watch enthusiasts like me, understand todays watch making industry and make better choices. Keep making such videos.
Can’t really thank you enough I was ready to spend literally tens of thousand to buy a watch because of the hype but you have really opened my eye . You have done an amazing job for a watch noob like me you have earned a subscriber for life . Thank you thank you so much
Hello everyone, thanks a lot for your love about this content. Many of you asked me to share the source to get low priced HMT mechanical which is tagged as "after market" by self acclaimed HMT experts. Kindly note that I cannot gurrantee what kind of experience you are going to have with the below sellers or whether you will be happy about the product or not, I am just sharing the details as you have requested - please order at your own risk. Please see below - Source 1: Mr Vimal Sharma, Bikaner, Rajasthan, Whatsapp No +91 90790 54201 Mr Sharma is a respected watch assembler and my experience with him was great. He transparently shares the dials that are available at a point of time so that one can choose. Depending on quality of dial, the complete watch without strap will cost you anywhere between 1100 to 1500. If you want to buy straps then options starts at 100. And you can either ask him to send your order through Speed Post or private courier and depending on your choice the shipping, cost will be between 100 - 200. Please note that Mr Sharma does not provide any warranty promise and you can either get your after sale service done from local watch mechanic or you can send the watch through courier to Mr Sharma for service when needed. Source 2: Mr Anthons from Chennai Tamilnadu, Whatsapp no +91 72000 00639 Mr Anthons has limited stock, but he offers watches at very low price, I have placed order for a orange sunburst Kohinoor which costed 960 including shipping through Speed Post. I have received the watche and its very good. Again no warranty support promised here as well. Source 3: Divine Watch on Instagram, Mumbai, Whatsapp no +91 91482 60359 They are charging 3800 for most of their watches including shipping and they are providing 6 months warranty support too. Price is no doubt on higher side, however you have lot of dial colour option to chose from. You need to pay 50% while placing the order, they will usually take about 20 days to get the watch ready and before shipping they will ask for the remaining amount. I have experienced quality control issues on their watches as one Janata came with cracked dial - but they are very responsive on after sales support and they replaced my watch and took care of shipping cost as well. I suggest you only go for this option if you are not getting a particular colour or model from elsewhere as 3800 is very high for assembled watch. Hope this clarifies the doubt.
Thanks for this thought-provoking video. The primary reason HMT mechanical watches are still in demand (in fact there's been a resurgence in the past decade) is only NOSTALGIA - for a simpler time when an HMT watch was a prized possession and a reward for significant achievements or a gift for a life milestone. I purchased a couple of watches from them in 2022 based on the understanding that they were somehow in production despite all odds and news to the contrary (GoI decision in 2016 etc) and wanted to support them in their endeavour to survive. If they've indeed become just another watch assembler cynically exploiting people's feelings for marketing and encouraging a cottage industry around resale then it's really very disappointing and hits at the core of why people buy HMT at all in the 2020s...Keep up the good work!
I was waiting for someone to speak about this. I've been following hmt official website from last 2 yrs and been checking the availability regularly. I must say they're using the hype for their business and profit purpose,I should also put another point that some of us(among watch collectors) are hyping some models unnecessarily like for an example some newbies only know hmt kohinoor,janata,pilot,jhalak..I feel like that's bcz of some watch collectors and so called influencers. Why is hmt not producing other models? Coz they're chasing the hype only,they don't care the sentiments of true watch collectors. Kudos to you and your efforts sir..badiya eye opening video!
Sir what is your perspective on Stellar series, especially the open heart ones? Like is the case and dial Manufactured in-house? And I think it is correctly priced ,what is your opinion?
Most HMT watches are having multiple quality issues as a result of poor quality control. Designs are unscientific too - I bought one stellar where a divers bezel print was given on a non rotating bezel for the watch which cannot be used for diving.
@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial true I remember commenting on your video review for the same watch!! I think it was on the occasion of independence day. Personally I have a lot of issues with that specific model, not sure what was going on in the head of the team that finalized that design.. the project watches have way better design
Your research and knowledge are out of the world ...every video has an in-depth review that I have never seen before...keep doing a good job best wishes to you. I will share this in the HMT group so that the hype gets slightly cooler.
I desperately want a HMT Jhalak, I think its a stunning looking watch, it was priced somewhere between 3.5k to 5k back in 2019-20.....Now it feels totally unjustifiable to pay 10k for a 17J 0231 movement. If price drops, I'd definitely buy but I have low hopes
Great Analysis & Informative Video Sir ..Would love more videos & ur reviews on watches for true watch collectors & lovers ...Rare to find such honest people ..A big thank you :)
I just saw a hmt Kohinoor orange dial for 21k in a fb group, janta selling for 7k, pilot selling for 8k and Himalaya selling for 14k..... Its not worth spending that much for this ........ dimaag ki nasse phatt gaye ye sab dekh ke
Although that 'original bill & warranty card' makes a big difference in validating a watch( even some Swiss brands now outsource cases & other parts from China and to keep the 'Swiss made' tag intact the definition of 'Swiss made' has been suitably modified to accommodate all these changes. So final assembly point is now accepted as 'made' ). However, I agree fully to the other part of your video. At the current price, Alba or even Ali express brands like Tenderio or Bodero give much more in that price. The current pricing and hype is modulated by a gang of so called 'collectors'.
Almost motivates me to launch an indigenous watch brand with in-house movement. Btw, would you buy a made in india watch that could provide hand would movt. Within 3k?
Rs 1,000 to 2,000 is good for after Market and Even original. Not very well made movement. And please provide me details of your AM dealer. And Also I used After Market products and old 2nd hand product. But I like After Market product, because they are valuable products.
@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial well the place I am currently in doesn't have any good stores(I have literally searched 15+ offline stores) Maybe I have to go to Kolkata to search😅. Btw thanks.
Totally agree with you, the rise in the price is only for the hoarders. It is not worth buying the mechanical watches. However we can consider the automatic or quartz.
@watchandmoreindia Fe months back, I had visited the HMT showroom in Bangalore and I was told that they are assembling the watches with "New Old Stock Parts"
The audited report clearly says its assembly only and new old stock dial cannot last till today. Ther are new dial colour getting introduced which were never offered when factory was functioning. So you know what I mean.
Hi sir, One question about hmt movement, I have Kohinoor and I checked the movement and '0230' is etched on it. I saw kost of hmt movements are etched as '0231' on it. Can you tell me the difference of these two versions? (Asking just to add up to my knowledge)
You can learn about all variants of hmt 020 derivatives which includes 0231, please read this article if you want to learn more about this topic - thehourmarkers.com/history-has-it/hmt-watches-a-walk-down-the-memory-lane/#:~:text=It%20is%20constructed%20in%20a,3%20hands%20hand%2Dwinding%20movement.
@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial thank you sir for this information. But unfortunately this blog also doesn't have any reference for the '0230' movement. But most of the calibre information websites have written '0230/0231' as a movement number.
HMT's recent Price hike is just unbearable. High ranking Babus are main culprit , they earn large sum of money in the form of bribe for giving tender to particular vendor for so called manufacturing(i.e assembling). HMT are worthless in terms of quality because they don't bring any innovative design or development in recent years. Hope Indian watch geeks support micro brands rather than lazy HMT . Micro brands are doing top level designing and also they listen to the voice of watch enthusiasts.
They are very good. I have made a review of one of the Alba automatic, you can watch that video to know more. That model is discontinued by the way. th-cam.com/video/bu-PEK--kWI/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for this outstanding elaboration. Ami kadin agei stellar kinlam offline store theke. Hope r website or offline theke r kinbo na. If possible apni ki amake kono reliable reference dite parben jekhan theke ami 1000-1200/- te kohinoor kinte parbo? Also amar 1ta kohinoor ache jeta ektu mod korbo. Lastly again thank you for your wonderful guidance.
Vostok Commander offers 100 meter water resistance at same price. Unless you like the look of NASS and design is the reason why you want to buy, there are better alternative available. But still NASS automatic at 7300 offers better value than Jhalak, handwinding Kohinoor, pilot at almost 10k. Hope thia clarifies. Hereis my review of Vostok Commander and I have also included the step by step ordering process from Komandirskie.com th-cam.com/video/5VdaHcAf2bU/w-d-xo.html
@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial thanks for prompt response. Yeah, design is what caught my eye. It reminisces me of patek philippe 😜 Any other automatic you would recommend in this price range and design language?
@@apurvkaushik3763 are you China Fobic? Asking this as many people cares about that over real quality and specs. And I can recommend as per your comfort zone.
Hello sir Please muze aap hmt ki refund policy bataye....maine recently hmt ki watch order ki aur uske clip me dikkat thi aur unka kehna ki hum sirf replacement denge refund nhi....please reply me soon i want to return this watch...i ordered it 2 days before
Sir I have already done a detailed review and that video is the most viewed full length review you will find as of today on youtube on Argos Apollo II. I will soon publish a mid term user review of the same watch.
Yes but the recent 'Argos Apollo II long term user review after 3 months use .......' review is very useful. Thanks for the reply.@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial
@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial I have a few watch shops nearby and they are offering refurbished hmts as low as 500 but they don't have dial options they only offer the simple white or black dial is there a way for me to get that sexy maroon sunburst dial for kohinoor Or silver dial for janata.
Sorry sir, my humble opinion would be if you manage to restore hmt mechanical watches built before 2016 factory closure, your opinion might change as you might get a functional mechanical watch at throwaway price. But ofcourse the current price hike has made their offering useless.
@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial I only have some vintage hmt just because of their sentimental values which I have restored. Objectively they are not worth it. So I don't bother getting a new one. The 17J Parashock movements based on Citizen designs were decent for their time, but that time has long passed
Appreciate the efforts and research you put in every video. subscribers count should be and must be more than many of us who are still in learning phase.. I wish you more success Brother..
Dil se thank you Pankaj Sir. Guru se ashirwad jo mil gaya!
Yes you both are right and saying truth to the customers and I am also watching your channels videos
We would really appreciate a video from your side on this issue.
Finally someone has spoken the truth!!! :)
Whats more interesting is that HMT watches are being sold out within minutes of listing and then they are available for black in HMT watches and HMT brotherhood groups..
This is an artificial, profit making bubble that some cheaters who has 0% interest in HMT or Indian made mechanical watches are creating.
Better to move to Alba and Seiko entry level instead of spending 10k on some cheaply assembled watch with 0 production and quality control.
Such malpractices really frustrates genuine collectors and that was the reason why I thought of creating this video. Thanks Sir for liking.
Totally agreed with your stand ...🔥. HMT was known for providing mechanical watch at budget.... As it's popular watch JANTA stands for.... For normal people.... But now they are just playing with the emotions of buyers... We want to purchase something that's ours , as an Indian product... After these type of tactics we are losing interest in HMT day by day .... Why would we buy HMT at 6.5 k or 10 k ... ?🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️?? And that too after looking at their quality control / check .... There are many brands at that price point providing better quality watches...
Agreed, this scam started from 2022 and it will be exposed soon. HMT watches are low on quality and no one values them in international market no matter if its made by the hmt chairman himself. There were hardly any price appreciations until 2021 and suddenly this scam started. Try selling hmt at 10k to an experienced watch maker in real world (not online) and I can guarantee one will get a tight slap....lol.
Bravo ! Brilliant video. You have echoed my sentiments perfectly in this video. I agree 100% with every word you have said in this one. I got really annoyed with the groups as well to the point that I have considered leaving.
Also your opinion on manufactured vs assembled is spot on. I have also come to a similar conclusion.
I got a Kohinoor made from Vimal Sharmaji as well. Got it today. And I also bought a couple of used old HMTs from 80s and 90s as I considered them to be the actual genuine ones. Just like you have given a budget of 4K I have also said 3K to be the max that should be spent on these old mechanical watches.
For the time being I am also sort of done and if I do buy more I will be either getting more made from Vimal Sharmaji or used ones from 80s,90s etc.
Also for anyone new to HMTs just avoid hyped models like Kohinoor, Janata and Pilot and it will be more enjoyable. I have a Maurya, Vijay that I got for less than 2k combined and I am very satisfied.
Great job once again Sourabh ji. Looking forward to more good content like this.
How I can get it from vimal sharmaji?
I will have video in one or two days on my channel. TH-cam will automatically block links so I can't post it here.@@rushipatil5236
Thank you so much Sir ❤
The way these FB groups are run and the rules, clearly indicates that the sole purpose is creating a hype for so called original products which are ultimately third-party vendor made with extremely bad quality checks and secondly discouraging people to opt for the value for money options by tagging them fake or aftermarket 😅.
And no one is allowed to constructively challenge their yardstick with logic.
Its a mechanism to extract money from common watch lovers who are relatively less knowledgeable about the market price of watch parts.
Can anyone show an evidence of any hmt handwinding watch being sold at 4k or above in 2021 or prior? So clearly its an intentionally and calculated bubble beeing created which will burst at some point and those who are spending high price for those cheap quality watches now, will ultimately suffer.
@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial I got the same feeling . Admins and mods pumping prices and telling people a 10k sale is good and will be worth 15k in 3 months.
Meanwhile some guy selling his watch at 1k is being interrogated about his watch.
I bought a Kohinoor because i liked the look and it came in nos condition . One of the first comments I got was from someone from these groups saying case is not original, hands are not right etc etc. I banned them instantly :)
I was overall extremely disappointed with these FB groups. I can understand people obsessing about originality for a Rolex or Rado but for a 2-3k HMT ? Its silly. People use HMT watches to practice repairing learning etc because they are cheap.
Talking to people in real life also don't seem to value them much.
I just wanted to own a few because of the hand wind movement, the vintage looks and story of HMT. It was never about quality.
At the end of the day i will consider them if i see one i like at an affordable price and i don't really care about originality.
Afterall HMT was made to provide affordable mechanical timepieces to the common man.
I feel your sentiment brother.. I also got bullied in a group when I shared my watch collection photo and they told me to tag it as AM. So I deleted my posts. Thanks for speaking out this important topic.
I think I remember your post. Was it the one where you had a nice Casio Royale on a strap. If it was i remember how all they kept saying "your watches are AM" etc. Very unfriendly environment and not at all helpful or welcoming to new collectors.
Thank you so much
@@LBGWatch no that was another instance. I didn't deleted that post but yesterday I uploaded my SOTC2023 collection and the admin commented and told me to tag AM watches as AM or MoD so I got frustrated. It's not like I was selling them or anything so I deleted that post. And tell him to be happy with his so-called og Watches.
Also , Daarun Video - ( Excellent video)
This video actually helps people make an informed decision, the Hype does create the fear of missing out.
Like you said, you have a ceiling fro 4 thousand and I have the Ceiling for 7. Only and IF only I am getting the exact one I want.
Thank you so much 🙏
Bahut hi badiya video bhai aapne toh pol hi kholdi Hmt walo ki , tabhi bolo itna demand hone k bawjod hamesh unavailable rehti market hype karne k liye or mehnga bechne k liye , but bhai mein late hogaya 3 din pehle hi hmt kedar liya Rs.7355 mein but mujhe lagra hai worth hai , rado homage, stainless steel case , 8205 movement hacking or winding , but jhalak in 10000 usse acha timex ka marlin lelo ya seiko ka sabse base automatic version.... Bhai divine se jo pilot liya hu uska lume bahut badiya hai or yeh hmt kedar se ...
Rahil bhai, thank you so much. You help me every day with invaluable information about so many sources to procure watch accessories at reasonable cost, thanks for being an integral part of this channel bhai.
Its seems you just woke up and chose violence😂, its nice to see someone speaking facts.
One more info, the serviced movements are available for 300-350 which is much lower than 500, and the aftermarket dials present in 1k aftermarket watches also have sunburst effect, the finish will depend on the dial you choose.
I won’t mention anyone, but some collectors are justifying their hate for aftermarket HMTs saying that people are cheated by sellers selling aftermarket as # “genuine HMT” and their strict rules will help new watch collectors. Now I have seen same people hyping up the prices. In what way their action of justifying high price will help new collectors?
No no.
They are definitely not collectors, who are passionate and welcoming. They are just investors who dont care about the community and value their personal interests only.
In fact the more prices rise up, the demand for aftermarkets will only increase. If original ones were available for 3k the aftermarket business would not have been much profitable.
If they truly cared about the community and collecting they should have banned prices more than MRP for new watches. Their tactics favour sellers and not true collectors. True watches lovers dont buy watches just to sell.
Thank you so much bhai, you know that we are on same page and you keep helping me with so many useful information about different sources to procure value for money watches and straps and we are happy about what we get at that price.
Thanks bhai for always being there beside me on this research, I sincerely acknowledge your contribution to help me to reach to the conclusion which all are agreeing. You have been an integral part of this channel bhai and thank you once again.
Exactly bro.. I've 9 hmt watches.. all of them are purchased from near store or 2nd hand.. I'm very happy with my collection 😊
You have made smart choice 😉
Every word in the video that you spoke is ABSOLUTE TRUTH.
Majority of so called HMT collectors are hypocrite. They are just trying to mint money. One of the Collector asked for 16000 for his old used Sona 😂
Like you said, HMT isn't worth the money if you cross 4-5k.... it's better to look for other brands which provide far more superior quality watches.
Aftermarket HMT watches aren't too bad, I was able to get few around 1000-1200 with transparent case back.
HMT watches are nothing but riding on hype, some say they sell watches on commission to resellers using backdoor. Hence you will see few folks will always keep on listing new watches for sale at exorbitant prices. HMT's online sale for mechanical watches is farce, I have hardly seen a genuine person getting that watch.
Nevertheless, time has come to say bye bye to HMT mechanical watches and move on.
I litrally want HMT Janta Devnagri edition amd Khinoor , if you have any source then please share me buddy. Budget less than 1500
@@amitpandey_ you can get aftermarket janata devnagri, wait for sourabh jis next video, he will review the sources i guess
Nicely said. USP of HMT watches were their value for money and watch on common man's wrist was their moto - clearly the new chairman is highly under the influence of advisors who are running their hidden agenda to earn heavy profit, and ultimately destroying the originality of HMT watches. Unless this mistake is rectified, the brand will be vanished totally when this scam is exposed.
This video of yours is an eye opener. I was considering buying an hmt watch. But now I might have to reconsider.
Get the hmt aftermarket watch
What an eye-opening topic bro, thanks for bringing this up. This is making me rethink completely whether to buy more HMT watch or not!
Buy only if its available under 2k
Bahut hi achi quality video..RAJASTHAN...
Respect to this video brother. Really appreciate your thought process. This helps new watch enthusiasts like me, understand todays watch making industry and make better choices. Keep making such videos.
THank you so much for the motivating feedback - means a lot Sir!
Can’t really thank you enough I was ready to spend literally tens of thousand to buy a watch because of the hype but you have really opened my eye . You have done an amazing job for a watch noob like me you have earned a subscriber for life . Thank you thank you so much
Thank you so much and really appreciate your kind words. Please stay connected.
Hello everyone, thanks a lot for your love about this content. Many of you asked me to share the source to get low priced HMT mechanical which is tagged as "after market" by self acclaimed HMT experts. Kindly note that I cannot gurrantee what kind of experience you are going to have with the below sellers or whether you will be happy about the product or not, I am just sharing the details as you have requested - please order at your own risk.
Please see below -
Source 1: Mr Vimal Sharma, Bikaner, Rajasthan, Whatsapp No +91 90790 54201
Mr Sharma is a respected watch assembler and my experience with him was great. He transparently shares the dials that are available at a point of time so that one can choose. Depending on quality of dial, the complete watch without strap will cost you anywhere between 1100 to 1500. If you want to buy straps then options starts at 100. And you can either ask him to send your order through Speed Post or private courier and depending on your choice the shipping, cost will be between 100 - 200. Please note that Mr Sharma does not provide any warranty promise and you can either get your after sale service done from local watch mechanic or you can send the watch through courier to Mr Sharma for service when needed.
Source 2: Mr Anthons from Chennai Tamilnadu, Whatsapp no +91 72000 00639
Mr Anthons has limited stock, but he offers watches at very low price, I have placed order for a orange sunburst Kohinoor which costed 960 including shipping through Speed Post. I have received the watche and its very good. Again no warranty support promised here as well.
Source 3: Divine Watch on Instagram, Mumbai, Whatsapp no +91 91482 60359
They are charging 3800 for most of their watches including shipping and they are providing 6 months warranty support too. Price is no doubt on higher side, however you have lot of dial colour option to chose from. You need to pay 50% while placing the order, they will usually take about 20 days to get the watch ready and before shipping they will ask for the remaining amount. I have experienced quality control issues on their watches as one Janata came with cracked dial - but they are very responsive on after sales support and they replaced my watch and took care of shipping cost as well. I suggest you only go for this option if you are not getting a particular colour or model from elsewhere as 3800 is very high for assembled watch.
Hope this clarifies the doubt.
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@@sangbithde already did bhai
Will be waiting for you watch from Chennai... Plz upload video of same
Thanks a lot for sharing this information with the community! 📈💪🏻
Thanks 👍
A landmark video in this context. Well researched, well articulated and most importantly, brings out only the relevant data points. Kudos
Thank you so much for the feedback, really means a lot Sir 🙏
Thanks for this thought-provoking video. The primary reason HMT mechanical watches are still in demand (in fact there's been a resurgence in the past decade) is only NOSTALGIA - for a simpler time when an HMT watch was a prized possession and a reward for significant achievements or a gift for a life milestone. I purchased a couple of watches from them in 2022 based on the understanding that they were somehow in production despite all odds and news to the contrary (GoI decision in 2016 etc) and wanted to support them in their endeavour to survive.
If they've indeed become just another watch assembler cynically exploiting people's feelings for marketing and encouraging a cottage industry around resale then it's really very disappointing and hits at the core of why people buy HMT at all in the 2020s...Keep up the good work!
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Aapki har video ache se pura dekhta hu .. kyuki aap kaafi knowledge dete ho ..
Thank you so much
I was waiting for someone to speak about this. I've been following hmt official website from last 2 yrs and been checking the availability regularly. I must say they're using the hype for their business and profit purpose,I should also put another point that some of us(among watch collectors) are hyping some models unnecessarily like for an example some newbies only know hmt kohinoor,janata,pilot,jhalak..I feel like that's bcz of some watch collectors and so called influencers. Why is hmt not producing other models? Coz they're chasing the hype only,they don't care the sentiments of true watch collectors. Kudos to you and your efforts sir..badiya eye opening video!
Thank you so much for the kind words!
I like this video very much. It is an eye opener for enthusiastic HMT Mechanical watch Collectors. Thank you very much 👍👍💯
Thank you so much
Sir what is your perspective on Stellar series, especially the open heart ones? Like is the case and dial Manufactured in-house? And I think it is correctly priced ,what is your opinion?
Most HMT watches are having multiple quality issues as a result of poor quality control. Designs are unscientific too - I bought one stellar where a divers bezel print was given on a non rotating bezel for the watch which cannot be used for diving.
@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial true
I remember commenting on your video review for the same watch!! I think it was on the occasion of independence day.
Personally I have a lot of issues with that specific model, not sure what was going on in the head of the team that finalized that design.. the project watches have way better design
Your research and knowledge are out of the world ...every video has an in-depth review that I have never seen before...keep doing a good job best wishes to you.
I will share this in the HMT group so that the hype gets slightly cooler.
Thank you 🙏
I desperately want a HMT Jhalak, I think its a stunning looking watch, it was priced somewhere between 3.5k to 5k back in 2019-20.....Now it feels totally unjustifiable to pay 10k for a 17J 0231 movement. If price drops, I'd definitely buy but I have low hopes
Its not worth the 10.1 k price, so wait
Finally someone told the truth about hmt ..👍👍
Very good sir ..
Keep it up ..
Ab hmt se move on krme ka time aa gya
Thank you so much
Honest video!!!!
Waiting for your next one
Thanks
Great Analysis & Informative Video Sir ..Would love more videos & ur reviews on watches for true watch collectors & lovers ...Rare to find such honest people ..A big thank you :)
Such motivating words means a lot, thank you 🙏
Can you guys share where you are buying aftermarket hmts for around 1 to 1.5k
Please check the pinned comment Sir
Sir please make video on buying aftermarket hmt watch. Also how you got aftermarket watch for rs1000.
Very soon that video will come, check pinned comment
How i can get in contact or purchase watch from vimal sharmaji?
Yes, I also want to buy
Sir - please check the pinned comment that I have updated few hours back, that will help I guess.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts I'm so glad I found this video
Thank you so much
I just saw a hmt Kohinoor orange dial for 21k in a fb group, janta selling for 7k, pilot selling for 8k and Himalaya selling for 14k..... Its not worth spending that much for this ........ dimaag ki nasse phatt gaye ye sab dekh ke
HMT watchea are not worth that price, its a scam
Very impressive research.
Keep growing dada.
Thank you very much for ur guidance
Thank you so much
Dada, ekta asadharon video ❤❤❤
Thank you so much
Appreciate your information ,it helped a lot…Thank you 👍
Thank you very much Sir
It takes spine to do what you are doing here. Thank you.
🙏👍 thank you Sir
This is call real content respect ur research and time thank you sir for this valuable information
Thank you so much Sir
Although that 'original bill & warranty card' makes a big difference in validating a watch( even some Swiss brands now outsource cases & other parts from China and to keep the 'Swiss made' tag intact the definition of 'Swiss made' has been suitably modified to accommodate all these changes. So final assembly point is now accepted as 'made' ).
However, I agree fully to the other part of your video. At the current price, Alba or even Ali express brands like Tenderio or Bodero give much more in that price. The current pricing and hype is modulated by a gang of so called 'collectors'.
An Eye opener and a very well researched video 🙌🏻💯
Thank you so much 🙏
Almost motivates me to launch an indigenous watch brand with in-house movement.
Btw, would you buy a made in india watch that could provide hand would movt. Within 3k?
Rs 1,000 to 2,000 is good for after Market and Even original.
Not very well made movement.
And please provide me details of your AM dealer.
And Also I used After Market products and old 2nd hand product.
But I like After Market product, because they are valuable products.
I have updated the details in pinned comment, thank you 😊
Please make a video about am watches and quality
Already work in progress
Good analysis my friend!!!
Thanks for information and information of sellers i am from bikaner i can easily buy watch vimal sharma thanks
Great, I am sure you will love his affordable collection.
Great research dada👍
Thank you so much
Very intellectual analysis saved me from buying HMT stellar..
I would love if u can provide us with aftermarket HMT watches buying links and stuff.
Thanks 🙏, already all information shared in the pinned comment Sir 🙂
Planning to buy a watch. Now stopped. Thanks for saving my10000 bucks
This is Revolutionary ❤
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You must have made this video last week, i bought hmt open heart saffron dial watch for around 10k and im feeling cheated by hmt now
Please don't feel that way, my analysis is only for non automatic manual winding only watches. I am yet to conclude on HMT automatics.
Lovely video. Keep up the good work.
Thank you so much 👍
i want a butterfly deployment clasp or a leather strap with butterfly deployment.. where should i look for?
Please check in a good offline watch shop for s cond hand option, will be cheaper. Else online options are expensive.
@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial well the place I am currently in doesn't have any good stores(I have literally searched 15+ offline stores)
Maybe I have to go to Kolkata to search😅.
Btw thanks.
Totally agree with you, the rise in the price is only for the hoarders. It is not worth buying the mechanical watches. However we can consider the automatic or quartz.
I agree 😊
yeah its a bummer to find hmt watches expensive.
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AAP ne sahi bola
Thank you so much
Sir aap is white janta kahan se liya hai ?
White nehin hai mere paas, silver hain with red second hand. Maine divine watch se liya tha 3800 me, par mehenga hai.
Bro video main jo hmt janata Hain vo kaha se liya
That awesome Janata came from Divine Watch House, they have aome awesome premium collection. Dial quality is top notch too.
Correct spelling for title -
Incorrect - Manupulated
Correct - Manipulated
Thank you - corrected
@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial Yepp...Your Content broo...I just love it...🫂💟
Just saw in one group Naked Jhalak is listed for sale and price is 19000 😮 is it a joke 🤣
Not a joke, its a pure scam which will get exposed soon.
Thank You for this useful content, Brother.😊
Glad to know that you have found this helpful 🙏
Sir 8.5k 10k per alba automatic mil raha hai…hmt kyu le ..aj ke din main hmt old leke restore karna hi sahi hoga
rightly said
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Hello Shivesh, love you beta 👍
Nice video sir ❤❤❤
Thank you so much 🙏
Bhai hmt steller maroon automatic mil rhi 12ki lelu ya nhi?
Nh bhai seiko 5 le lo
@watchandmoreindia Fe months back, I had visited the HMT showroom in Bangalore and I was told that they are assembling the watches with "New Old Stock Parts"
The audited report clearly says its assembly only and new old stock dial cannot last till today. Ther are new dial colour getting introduced which were never offered when factory was functioning. So you know what I mean.
Thank you so much for this video Sir ❤
Happy to help 🙂
I think all the quartz circuits are made in china ,then imported & assembled by hmt india
Love it ❤❤ what a content sir this is why I pay 249 monthly 😂😂
Thank you so much for the feedback Sir! You pay 249 each month to whom?
I think he is saying for his mobile internet recharge,
@@watchby_rk 🤣
Right i stand with you
Thank you 😊
I have the same gray HMT watch from 80s. but it's not working, my father bought this in 80s.
How can I get it working, how can I service this?
You can take it to an old watch shop in your area and they will bring this back to life within 500
10000 me to Alba ke watch aa jate hai?. Kon kharide ga?
Absolutely, sensible buyers should reject this pumped up price
Vaiya apne Jo janta dikhaya he o kaha se le sakta hu please provide me some contact info so that I can order one for me.. please 🥺
It's happening right now a green Kohinoor for 17k₹ in a FB HMT group
Please maintain safe distance from such scams, hmt mechanical watches are only worth 4 - 5 k max
Your videos are awesome. Thanks
Sirji Rajat automatic is now selling for around 7.4 k on their official website -- is it worth the price,?
Rajat is a good watch, price bhi rhik thak hai
Hi sir, One question about hmt movement, I have Kohinoor and I checked the movement and '0230' is etched on it. I saw kost of hmt movements are etched as '0231' on it. Can you tell me the difference of these two versions? (Asking just to add up to my knowledge)
You can learn about all variants of hmt 020 derivatives which includes 0231, please read this article if you want to learn more about this topic -
thehourmarkers.com/history-has-it/hmt-watches-a-walk-down-the-memory-lane/#:~:text=It%20is%20constructed%20in%20a,3%20hands%20hand%2Dwinding%20movement.
@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial thank you sir for this information. But unfortunately this blog also doesn't have any reference for the '0230' movement. But most of the calibre information websites have written '0230/0231' as a movement number.
@@ketankadtan both are almost same and intimately derivatives of 020
@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial okay, Thanks for clarification of my query👍🏻
Dwc vayu is not available
They will release next batch in January or summer of 2024
@@amitpandey_ most probably mid 2024, 15th jan is launch date for their new quartz series
Wait for few more days, will be available again.
Which case is better... Steel or brass.....????
Steel
@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial ok
If I buy brass case watch, how should I care of it..??
Any other disadvantage of brass case...???
Please let me know
@@VarunKumar-iv3bn it catches scratch easily, thats it.
@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial ok
HMT's recent Price hike is just unbearable. High ranking Babus are main culprit , they earn large sum of money in the form of bribe for giving tender to particular vendor for so called manufacturing(i.e assembling).
HMT are worthless in terms of quality because they don't bring any innovative design or development in recent years.
Hope Indian watch geeks support micro brands rather than lazy HMT . Micro brands are doing top level designing and also they listen to the voice of watch enthusiasts.
Can u name some micro brands
Absolutely 💯
@@rachitsoni8822 DWC is the only micro brand that I liked so far
Dwc
@@dhruvsingh1219 yeah I know of this one...name more please
I bought onr HMT, unfortunately it doesn't keep time correctly.
What kind of error are you getting and where have you bought your watch from?
alba watches are good for budget automatic
They are very good. I have made a review of one of the Alba automatic, you can watch that video to know more. That model is discontinued by the way.
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Thank you for this outstanding elaboration. Ami kadin agei stellar kinlam offline store theke. Hope r website or offline theke r kinbo na. If possible apni ki amake kono reliable reference dite parben jekhan theke ami 1000-1200/- te kohinoor kinte parbo? Also amar 1ta kohinoor ache jeta ektu mod korbo. Lastly again thank you for your wonderful guidance.
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Created this exclusive video exactly for you. Ei video ta dekhun in details - sub answer peye jaben.
@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial Thank you so much❤
My heart is broken 💔
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Is Hmt nass 12 worth 7300/- ?
Vostok Commander offers 100 meter water resistance at same price. Unless you like the look of NASS and design is the reason why you want to buy, there are better alternative available. But still NASS automatic at 7300 offers better value than Jhalak, handwinding Kohinoor, pilot at almost 10k. Hope thia clarifies.
Hereis my review of Vostok Commander and I have also included the step by step ordering process from Komandirskie.com
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@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial thanks for prompt response.
Yeah, design is what caught my eye. It reminisces me of patek philippe 😜
Any other automatic you would recommend in this price range and design language?
@@apurvkaushik3763 are you China Fobic? Asking this as many people cares about that over real quality and specs. And I can recommend as per your comfort zone.
@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial Not really.
As long as I can connect with the watch, origin doesn’t matter.
@@apurvkaushik3763 check this, you should add 40% import duty in your budget, but worth considering
x.alibaba.com/15tbLZ?ck=pdp
Enlightening 👍
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I have just a fortnight ago!
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Thanks mosai January ta kinta ja chilam Rajat. Apor ami vostok kinbo
Vostok kotha thke kinben?
Bhalo bolechen dada!
Hello sir Please muze aap hmt ki refund policy bataye....maine recently hmt ki watch order ki aur uske clip me dikkat thi aur unka kehna ki hum sirf replacement denge refund nhi....please reply me soon i want to return this watch...i ordered it 2 days before
I have no experience of claiming refund from hmt - better post this question in HMT FB groups and someone having first hand experience can guide you.
plz review argos
I think he already has reviewed Argos Apollo 2
Sir I have already done a detailed review and that video is the most viewed full length review you will find as of today on youtube on Argos Apollo II. I will soon publish a mid term user review of the same watch.
Yes but the recent 'Argos Apollo II long term user review after 3 months use .......' review is very useful. Thanks for the reply.@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial
Where can I get after market hmts from, please suggest me a trusted dealer.
The sources I tried so far is updated in pinned comment, please order at your own risk as I do not know them personally.
@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial I have a few watch shops nearby and they are offering refurbished hmts as low as 500 but they don't have dial options they only offer the simple white or black dial is there a way for me to get that sexy maroon sunburst dial for kohinoor Or silver dial for janata.
बीकानेर मैं कौन हैँ जो. ये watch बेचता हैँ plz. Vedio. बनाओ
Video coming
500 se 1000 me mil jata h..old...hmt....original
Accha kiya aapne batakr sir
Me to 3&4 manga chuka hua aurr bhi mangane vala tha
Blind trust karke dusro ko b suggest kar rahatha bc barbad hea
Dusro ko bhi share karo Sir ye video aur paisa barwad karnese bachalo
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Finishing and polishing on those ones priced above 10k is so bad.
Thats their trade mark quality control.
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HMT is crap at any price point. I dont even bother trying to get one to add to my collection.
Sorry sir, my humble opinion would be if you manage to restore hmt mechanical watches built before 2016 factory closure, your opinion might change as you might get a functional mechanical watch at throwaway price. But ofcourse the current price hike has made their offering useless.
@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial I only have some vintage hmt just because of their sentimental values which I have restored. Objectively they are not worth it. So I don't bother getting a new one. The 17J Parashock movements based on Citizen designs were decent for their time, but that time has long passed
@@jimutjayadev thanks for sharing your point of view, have a good year ahead and let's stay in touch 🙏
Just for fun
HMT has become the Hublot and Daniel Wellington of India
Price doesn't justify the value
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Not for fun, you said the truth which is hard to digest for few
Benyar and Pagani is far better
How about SEIKO, Alba, Timex?
@@WatchandmoreIndiaofficial alba is the True killer
Hmt ka dhoti khul gya 😂
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