I talk about my extensive note-taking, starting in grad school, and how I went from paper to electronic and back again. All those notes are what led to this channel's existence.
Hi Tim. One consistent thing I’ve noticed about people who make games, is that they totally discount the impact their games can have on people. Yes, you made computers go “beep”, “boop”. Yes, you didn’t do open-heart surgery. However, games often help people escape terrible circumstances, or keep depression or anxiety at bay. For some, like me, they help my brain process things on a background thread while I play. I’m just glad you and many others made computers go “beep”, “boop”.
art is much more valuable than open-heart surgery most games don't have redemptive artistic/literary value, but Fallout does emotional+spiritual contributions vs. 'this person was negligent to their health and had to burden thousands of other people because they couldn't eat good food or exercise regularly'
@@zerpblerd5966 i don't think having a large hole in your heart from birth counts as being negligent to your health but pop off ig (just using my own experience as one example)
I remember Tim carrying that book around everywhere during Indiana! Tim definitely writes down everything. I had done things that were either wrong or thoughtless and Tim would have a record of them and correct me, thankfully he did so with kindness and grace. I also feel guilty for being the one of many at Obsidian that was constantly pestering Tim to be a Lead again. I was (and still am) a fan boy and that was my excuse - I wanted another Tim Cain game. Not that I think anyone can make Tim be a Lead if he doesn't want to be a Lead.
Once you mentioned Firefly, I was hooked and fated to become a lead, Anthony. And I don’t remember you doing anything thoughtless, except maybe revealing a book or movie spoiler here and there.
You didn't just make computers go "beep boop" Tim. You ARE a hero and you DID save the world. You saved people from boredom. You provided people with games they could enjoy when they felt like shit. You worked on games many people will remember playing for the rest of their lives just as I remember how playing Minecraft was the only fun part of my childhood. You're not worse than a doctor or a scientist. You created things with true intentions and were led not by greed but by the pure will to materialise whatever you've always carried inside your mind and to perfect your craft. There aren't a lot of people like you in this world and you should give yourself more credit and know that I really believe everything I just wrote
You didn't "save the world," but your work certainly has affected people on that level, relatively speaking. You probably know that already, but I think it is worth saying. You've created systems, and worlds, and characters with which people connected. They made people happy and feel accomplished and feel safe and all sorts of things. What makes me sad (not really...but you know what I mean) is that there is no direct way for me to tell all the people who made Baldur's Gate 1 how much every part of the game is embedded in my being. Xzar became my friend. Greywolf that early accomplishment and being rewarded with the Long Sword +2. Purposely leaving Imoen in Gnoll Stronghold only to feel bad about it after playing Baldur's Gate 2 so that I never did it again. I learned big words as a kid so I could understand Edwin. Etc. The game didn't save my life, sure, but it certainly is a part of me, just like any person who played a huge role in my life up to this point. So thank you for everything you have done with Fallout. Although I never played the first one, New Vegas is one of my favorite games of all time, and without you, that game wouldn't have been all things great games are to people. And thank you for continuing to make these videos; they are infinitely fascinating.
I requested a video on your notes and you went through the trouble of building and programming a working time machine to post this video. How cool is that!
Huge fan of your artworks. Wish it will be recreated by talented and motivated people and all of you guys, despite of being destroyed by commercialists. Would be interested to know more about Fallout 1 and 2 beta versions as well as this concept art of Chosen One/Vault Dweller with Dogmeat which appeard in F2 in your next videos. These elements are kind of interesting. Thank you with all our respect.
I kept a very detailed journal starting in 2019. Lost my job, divorced, COVID, all the things happened from then until now. I even spent five years in an apartment I hated. Then I moved, COVID ended, and my ex and I are pals now. I realized when I was unpacking that I had lost my journal, and I REALLY wish I could write a single additional sentence “Everything was fine after all.” You’ve inspired me to get a new journal. Thanks again, sir.
not 'cvid' tyranny, still going on learn it already psy-op with an agenda to inject people with experimental degenerative pathogens - seriously, get with it already
14:20 Mr. Tim, I'm sure the games you made helped a lot of people during their difficult times, so in a way, I believe you saved at least part of the world! Thank for sharing your experience with us, this channel is a bless!
Tim Cain's work on Fallout is up there with Gollop & Gollop's X-COM, Sid Meier's Civilization, id's Quake II, MechWarrior 2, Oleg Maddox's IL-2 Sturmovik... if you were to relate this to say, music - you were one of the very influential artists that made the beeps & boops that entertained, inspired, and touched the imagination of millions of people. Growing up in the 90s, this is how a lot of people actually got into computing as a career and like I said earlier, changed people's lives in a similar way that Hendrix, Iommi, Dylan inspired people. Especially now that with better technology doesn't necessarily mean better games (either gameplay, story-wise, &c...) - I remember being 10 or 11 years old and playing Fallout and then FO2. Very big titles for me and no doubt, many others.
Would be cool to see your note taking system or what you'd recommend for one. Also that hardcover book looks awesome haha I'd definitely buy a copy if they were published, would be interesting.
It's funny to think you were making your own engines in C multiple times, back in the 90's, like Fallout's, Arcanum's and Temple of Elementar Evil (?), and then later you would go on and join Obisidian as a programmer and work in Unity with C# (lol!) on Pillars, with all those years of experience, I wonder how that felt. And then later you would still go and work in Tim Sweeney's engine for Outer Worlds. You pretty much did it all! hahaha I wonder what are your opinions on the engines and how did you felt working on the different techs. Like, what was more fun to do, etc.
I'm always looking for better ways to organize my thoughts, my own notes have evolved over time. The process of condensing down information to the essence of the thing is super tricky, but infinity rewarding when you can just look at a couple bullet points and be transported back to the moment you had the idea.
Would love to one day read that book you wrote! Totally understand your desire not to release it though. If you ever change your mind, just collaborating with an editor would probably help with the tone/overall writing.
Well, I for one hope you will one day reconsider and publish the book. Books are meant to be read! Even if they contain pages that are not shiny happy all the time.
And if a few friends have read the manuscript and say it sounds mean or dry or whatever, well...that's what editors are for. We wouldn't want to put them out of job, now would we? ;)
Thanks for pointing that out. Now I am scared to go back into that room, for fear I will be pulled into my monitor like some kind of geriatric Carol Ann.
Hello Mr. Cain. I have a question. Would you consider "The C# players guide" by RB Whitaker a good way towards learning programming? Thank you for you time and videos, they are very entertaining while at the office. Cheers!
Nothing is positive or negative in itself, only subjective judgements of our consciousness make them so. Wise to not take it all seriously, since no one is going out of life alive.
Road Warrior Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome (the best Mad Max) Waterworld The Postman Spirits of the Air, Gremlins of the Clouds Hardware Dust Devil Nightmare at Noon World Gone Wild 1990 The Bronx Warriors 2020 Texas Gladiators Warriors of the Wasteland W - Is War The Aftermath Glen and Randa Hell Comes to Frogtown Ultimate Warrior Metal Storm Neon City dystopian: No Blade of Grass The Final Programme No Escape Judge Dredd Escape from LA/NY Rollerball Strange Days Zardoz Brazil 20000 Leagues Under the Sea
Can you comment on the “yellow reactor keycard” that can be found at the vertibird crash site in the west side of Klamath? Was it cut content or just a plant to peak the players curiosity? Please upvote if you guys are curious too. I thought the crash site was going to lead to something and carried that keycard with me the whole time wondering when will I ever use it.
Hey Tim, i've already asked this question in previous videos, but i really hope to hear your answer on this one... Do you guys tried to ask Jason Anderson back to work with you again?
I've been trying to jot down notes in various forms, physical pen & paper, digital in different apps, and I always end up in two major bummers regarding note-taking. Either I completely forget that I have notes about X somewhere, and the second thing is that even if I find the notes later, I don't recognise them (did I really write this? what was I thinking?) or straight up hate them. This is usually related to ideas and thoughts about game design. I've stopped taking any notes for a couple years already because I don't know how to deal with them and I can't seem to get anything out of taking notes.
Hey, have you ever thought about making a game, just for yourself? A pet project with no deadline and with the goal of trying out 40 years worth of ideas
How about, each attribute starts as a triangle allowing the player to pick 3 skills to be proficient. Then, if the player increases that attribute, it becomes a square allowing another skill, then a pentagon, etc. Until, the character is a master in that attribute and it becomes a circle and they can use all skills but the character is only allowed so many of each shape, of course. Also, I think it's a little unfair to say you haven't saved lives with how inspiring your games and career have been.
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Petition to have Tim interview his notes on the channel.
🤣🤣
me trying to read the pages he shows 👀🔍🔍🔍
Hi everyone, it's me, notes.
Hi Tim. One consistent thing I’ve noticed about people who make games, is that they totally discount the impact their games can have on people. Yes, you made computers go “beep”, “boop”. Yes, you didn’t do open-heart surgery. However, games often help people escape terrible circumstances, or keep depression or anxiety at bay. For some, like me, they help my brain process things on a background thread while I play. I’m just glad you and many others made computers go “beep”, “boop”.
Happy to help, @RealKeithernet!
art is much more valuable than open-heart surgery
most games don't have redemptive artistic/literary value, but Fallout does
emotional+spiritual contributions vs. 'this person was negligent to their health and had to burden thousands of other people because they couldn't eat good food or exercise regularly'
@@zerpblerd5966 christ, dude, seek therapy for your terminally-online mindset
@@zerpblerd5966 i don't think having a large hole in your heart from birth counts as being negligent to your health but pop off ig
(just using my own experience as one example)
I remember Tim carrying that book around everywhere during Indiana! Tim definitely writes down everything. I had done things that were either wrong or thoughtless and Tim would have a record of them and correct me, thankfully he did so with kindness and grace.
I also feel guilty for being the one of many at Obsidian that was constantly pestering Tim to be a Lead again. I was (and still am) a fan boy and that was my excuse - I wanted another Tim Cain game.
Not that I think anyone can make Tim be a Lead if he doesn't want to be a Lead.
Once you mentioned Firefly, I was hooked and fated to become a lead, Anthony. And I don’t remember you doing anything thoughtless, except maybe revealing a book or movie spoiler here and there.
You didn't just make computers go "beep boop" Tim. You ARE a hero and you DID save the world. You saved people from boredom. You provided people with games they could enjoy when they felt like shit. You worked on games many people will remember playing for the rest of their lives just as I remember how playing Minecraft was the only fun part of my childhood. You're not worse than a doctor or a scientist. You created things with true intentions and were led not by greed but by the pure will to materialise whatever you've always carried inside your mind and to perfect your craft.
There aren't a lot of people like you in this world and you should give yourself more credit and know that I really believe everything I just wrote
As someone who's trying to be more mindful of my creative process, this is so useful
tim oh tim for some of us your beeps and boops did actually help our lives
You didn't "save the world," but your work certainly has affected people on that level, relatively speaking. You probably know that already, but I think it is worth saying. You've created systems, and worlds, and characters with which people connected. They made people happy and feel accomplished and feel safe and all sorts of things. What makes me sad (not really...but you know what I mean) is that there is no direct way for me to tell all the people who made Baldur's Gate 1 how much every part of the game is embedded in my being. Xzar became my friend. Greywolf that early accomplishment and being rewarded with the Long Sword +2. Purposely leaving Imoen in Gnoll Stronghold only to feel bad about it after playing Baldur's Gate 2 so that I never did it again. I learned big words as a kid so I could understand Edwin. Etc. The game didn't save my life, sure, but it certainly is a part of me, just like any person who played a huge role in my life up to this point. So thank you for everything you have done with Fallout. Although I never played the first one, New Vegas is one of my favorite games of all time, and without you, that game wouldn't have been all things great games are to people. And thank you for continuing to make these videos; they are infinitely fascinating.
I requested a video on your notes and you went through the trouble of building and programming a working time machine to post this video. How cool is that!
Regarding you „only“ making games.. Guess you didn’t set the world on fire but you set a flame in our hearts.
Tim the games you made were magical and help me throw rough times i love the beeeps and boops you were making
Thank you for actually showing the notes! Love you Tim!
12:50 the whoosh sound effect for the books falling over got me good for no reason
You’ve inspired me to start taking notes. Maybe not as detailed as yours but at least a summary of the day.
Might not have saved the world but you did cause a huge ripple effect all across gaming that improved a whole lot of peoples lives
Huge fan of your artworks. Wish it will be recreated by talented and motivated people and all of you guys, despite of being destroyed by commercialists. Would be interested to know more about Fallout 1 and 2 beta versions as well as this concept art of Chosen One/Vault Dweller with Dogmeat which appeard in F2 in your next videos. These elements are kind of interesting. Thank you with all our respect.
I kept a very detailed journal starting in 2019. Lost my job, divorced, COVID, all the things happened from then until now. I even spent five years in an apartment I hated. Then I moved, COVID ended, and my ex and I are pals now. I realized when I was unpacking that I had lost my journal, and I REALLY wish I could write a single additional sentence “Everything was fine after all.”
You’ve inspired me to get a new journal.
Thanks again, sir.
not 'cvid'
tyranny, still going on
learn it already
psy-op with an agenda to inject people with experimental degenerative pathogens - seriously, get with it already
14:20 Mr. Tim, I'm sure the games you made helped a lot of people during their difficult times, so in a way, I believe you saved at least part of the world! Thank for sharing your experience with us, this channel is a bless!
Tim i love your notes and i m greatful for all info you can give us
Arcanum is cool
i still play it
We're glad you made computers go "beep-boop", Tim :)
Tim Cain's work on Fallout is up there with Gollop & Gollop's X-COM, Sid Meier's Civilization, id's Quake II, MechWarrior 2, Oleg Maddox's IL-2 Sturmovik... if you were to relate this to say, music - you were one of the very influential artists that made the beeps & boops that entertained, inspired, and touched the imagination of millions of people. Growing up in the 90s, this is how a lot of people actually got into computing as a career and like I said earlier, changed people's lives in a similar way that Hendrix, Iommi, Dylan inspired people.
Especially now that with better technology doesn't necessarily mean better games (either gameplay, story-wise, &c...) - I remember being 10 or 11 years old and playing Fallout and then FO2. Very big titles for me and no doubt, many others.
Notes are like a lightsaber- a defensive weapon that can sometimes deflect someone’s shots back at them.
Would be cool to see your note taking system or what you'd recommend for one. Also that hardcover book looks awesome haha I'd definitely buy a copy if they were published, would be interesting.
It's funny to think you were making your own engines in C multiple times, back in the 90's, like Fallout's, Arcanum's and Temple of Elementar Evil (?), and then later you would go on and join Obisidian as a programmer and work in Unity with C# (lol!) on Pillars, with all those years of experience, I wonder how that felt. And then later you would still go and work in Tim Sweeney's engine for Outer Worlds. You pretty much did it all! hahaha I wonder what are your opinions on the engines and how did you felt working on the different techs. Like, what was more fun to do, etc.
Babe wake up, new Tim Cain video dropped
I suspect a good number of people would be interested in that book 😉
Just like every RPG characters, one must carry a journal to jot down daily hints and quest.
"Updated my journal."
When I first saw this video I thought the title said "About My Nose" lol
Interesting video as always Tim
I'm always looking for better ways to organize my thoughts, my own notes have evolved over time. The process of condensing down information to the essence of the thing is super tricky, but infinity rewarding when you can just look at a couple bullet points and be transported back to the moment you had the idea.
Jordan Mechner turned his notes taken during the development of Prince of Persia into a book. I think you should do the same, Tim! I'd buy one.
Nice! So the channel is essentially an interactive ausiobook version of your notes :)
Not only did you make the computers go beep and boop. You've been known to make them occasionally go ski-zaaap-zip too.
Would love to one day read that book you wrote! Totally understand your desire not to release it though.
If you ever change your mind, just collaborating with an editor would probably help with the tone/overall writing.
Can we please get a sit down with Rick Rubin, the notes the two of you could share I can only imagine.
Well, I for one hope you will one day reconsider and publish the book. Books are meant to be read! Even if they contain pages that are not shiny happy all the time.
And if a few friends have read the manuscript and say it sounds mean or dry or whatever, well...that's what editors are for. We wouldn't want to put them out of job, now would we? ;)
I still use lotus 123. Surprisingly solid software.
I don't doubt that book is dry, but I'd still read it.
good one
We have very similar note-taking practices :)
12:49 Paranormal activity in the bookshelves behind
Thanks for pointing that out. Now I am scared to go back into that room, for fear I will be pulled into my monitor like some kind of geriatric Carol Ann.
That is very weird, I can't see what could have caused that...
If you slow it down you can see kinda of shadow hovering over that white book. Lol I don't believe in this sort of stuff but this is curious!
he bumped putting his journal down and the space caused them to flop - it's the sound effect that is weird- like he edited it in!
@@zerpblerd5966 dont ruin the ghost story for us 🗿
i wish i could read those pages :D
Hey Tim, have you seen the shows Silo and Hello Tomorrow? They definitely have a Fallout vibe to them, each in their own way.
Hello Mr. Cain. I have a question. Would you consider "The C# players guide" by RB Whitaker a good way towards learning programming? Thank you for you time and videos, they are very entertaining while at the office. Cheers!
People who make entertainment don't save the world, but they help make it worth living in
Nothing is positive or negative in itself, only subjective judgements of our consciousness make them so.
Wise to not take it all seriously, since no one is going out of life alive.
"I made games, I didn't save the world" would you say you... don't want to set the world on fire
Updated my journal..
ah, yes! Them classic Beeps and Boops. I long for them again!
im so desperate for good post-apoc stories i screengrabbed the two journal ideas and tried to clean up the yt compression but to no avail 😔
Road Warrior
Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome (the best Mad Max)
Waterworld
The Postman
Spirits of the Air, Gremlins of the Clouds
Hardware
Dust Devil
Nightmare at Noon
World Gone Wild
1990 The Bronx Warriors
2020 Texas Gladiators
Warriors of the Wasteland
W - Is War
The Aftermath
Glen and Randa
Hell Comes to Frogtown
Ultimate Warrior
Metal Storm
Neon City
dystopian:
No Blade of Grass
The Final Programme
No Escape
Judge Dredd
Escape from LA/NY
Rollerball
Strange Days
Zardoz
Brazil
20000 Leagues Under the Sea
@@zerpblerd5966 seen most of them, others arent my vibe, im like spongebob in that one episode where hes all dry af: gary i- need. sustenance.
@@countessboochieflagrante never seen more than 10 seconds of that garbage
you're welcome
13:17 Maybe you could solve the problem with the book you wrote by making it an audio book. I for one would love to listen to you read it!
"Updated my journal"
Where’d you buy that notebook
Is that a mova globe in the back?
Can you comment on the “yellow reactor keycard” that can be found at the vertibird crash site in the west side of Klamath? Was it cut content or just a plant to peak the players curiosity? Please upvote if you guys are curious too. I thought the crash site was going to lead to something and carried that keycard with me the whole time wondering when will I ever use it.
Maybe next video about Fallout 4 postmortem? I remember you said once that you did postmortem for Fallout 4. :)
Hey Tim, i've already asked this question in previous videos, but i really hope to hear your answer on this one... Do you guys tried to ask Jason Anderson back to work with you again?
Wonder are there notes about these videos 🧙♂️
Are you the reason RPG characters always have journals of their lives and thoughts?
I've been trying to jot down notes in various forms, physical pen & paper, digital in different apps, and I always end up in two major bummers regarding note-taking. Either I completely forget that I have notes about X somewhere, and the second thing is that even if I find the notes later, I don't recognise them (did I really write this? what was I thinking?) or straight up hate them. This is usually related to ideas and thoughts about game design. I've stopped taking any notes for a couple years already because I don't know how to deal with them and I can't seem to get anything out of taking notes.
emacs org-mode or just some other editor and with grep and such in markdown? just a suggestion
Hello, Tim. What is the title of the book? Thank you.
I think he doesn't publish :D
@@deltapi8859 thx, i thought i misheard.
Can I pay dnd with you? I never played because all my friends thought it was lame :(
wait what, you have a book about your career?
This is why I drink
Hey, have you ever thought about making a game, just for yourself? A pet project with no deadline and with the goal of trying out 40 years worth of ideas
How about, each attribute starts as a triangle allowing the player to pick 3 skills to be proficient. Then, if the player increases that attribute, it becomes a square allowing another skill, then a pentagon, etc. Until, the character is a master in that attribute and it becomes a circle and they can use all skills but the character is only allowed so many of each shape, of course.
Also, I think it's a little unfair to say you haven't saved lives with how inspiring your games and career have been.
Pls.tell.me.why.you.can't.controll.your.party.members.in.arcanum.and.fallout.
Tim! You pronounced Paladin correctly! 3:30
Hello