Have been thinking about the tier set bonus, the bleed is so little in damage even if it does help kill the kill target a bit. After so many games, plus the buffs to MM at this point I think full versa (with haste and mast) would help strengthen our hits and help our def a bit (more with the inc new rejuv winds buff). Which brings me to my question, do you feel that the 4set currently is better than going full versa considering that hit the mark is
The bleed damage helps 100k AiS crit leaves a 40k dot, which is not bad. 4 dwt however makes Arcane shot crit a lot more often, and 50k crits are not bad at all, and help with putting pressure on plate wearers.
@@nikolaculina3583 yea that's why I initially liked it. However, AS, RF and KS are by far my top damage abilities, ArcS is 4th but far behind the top 3. The Bleed only does between 1.5-3.5% of my Overall damage and while the bleed/crit helps it does so sparingly. You'd have to go full crit to get more value for the tier set. Conversely, Versatility adds damage to ALL our abilities by a considerable amount in pvp. At 26% verse that's over 20% more damage and with mastery at 10% which is > 20% more dam, the synergy is there to make the abilities that actually matter hit harder 100% of the time. Boosting Dps, burst, kill potential and boosting our damage mitigation. Idk, I personally like the 4pc, i like how MM has dot heavy pressure but with the new damage buffs we received (20% in pvp) , and the new stamina buff we're getting in 10.0.7 I'm willing to bet that full verse on gear and just the 2pc set bonus that it would be much more beneficial for the spec. Now that we have unlimited conquest I wanna give it a go and see how it goes. Still curious on @TosanTribeTV 's take on it with the buffs
@@randycabrera2579 Tosan uses the build which has around 20% haste/crit and with talent it amounts to 30% crit for AIS and RF and 40% for KS. After that you can still get around 25-28 vers and 10% mastery, while having a smoother spec because of haste. That is why he gets more value, the crit chance is reasonably high.
@@nikolaculina3583 Yessir, I know this. I do the same myself except now I use less crit because of the already high baseline crit. The only crit I have is from gun and sometimes head if I want more dam
You get a lot of haste/crit/mastery from the tier set which I like. I'm at 24% vers, I don't die very often on my hunter. I also feel like 6% vers (3% mitigation) more wouldn't make any difference in survivability personally. Although the 2 set isn't amazing or anything, I think the 4 set is pretty strong as someone else mentioned here already, arcane shot crits are awesome. 2 set will make a small % of your damage but at the right times on a big crit aimed shot, that extra damage over 6 seconds can definitely add up with everything else. It won't be a lot of "overall damage" but the timing of the damage can matter at times.
Im getting focued ALL games. All the time. like wtf. Its incredibly annoying to play like that. The moment i set my traps they switch to me and GG. People don't know how to play with MM hunters
I know it is easy to assume it's the healers fault or no one is peeling you, but the #1 thing people struggle with in arena is surviving, especially in shuffle with no communication. I guarantee there's a lot of things you could be doing better to kite/avoid damage. Getting trained is never fun but surviving is an art form, and getting good at it is mandatory for climbing! Hunters are squishy but we have a lot of tools to avoid damage, and defensive CD's to mitigate damage that we can't avoid.
@@TosanTribeTV suriving is an art form that is true. I need to be responsable and play more safe. Its just annoying to go against dh/dk on every fkn game. For some reason hunters have a target over their heads lol. I had a game like 5 mins ago where i managed to survive, trap more often and i won 5/6. But its hard man. BM is so easy compared to MM. Ty man. Later.
( Tosan Has Earned the Achievement : Tosan The Destroyer Of The Rogues Shuffle Mania ) kkkkkkkkkk MANN I need a coach on my hunter !!! It's too much expensive an our of torture teaching a dumb some tricks ? xDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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Damn, you played with jelly! Nice too see 2 amazing hunters in rss together
glad to see ppl still rocking MM even after our hardships
yo whats the song that starts at 4:58
Yula - Collide
Tosan where are your in-depth tips and trick tutorials on Skilled Capped now. I followed you back in Cataclysm like crazy
Don't do anything for skill-capped these days
How come the steel trap doesn't break freezing trap at 5:10
Because if the steel trap hits first, freezing trap removes all damage over time effects
@@TosanTribeTV does it remove all the DoTs? or just hunter's? and is it pvp only? thx
I want to play marksmanship hunter pvp. Should I change anything from the crimson gladiator gear at the revival catalyst quest?
I wear 5/5
@@TosanTribeTV you put all 5 crimson gladiator gear at the revival catalyst mission?
What’s the song at the start of the video?
Varien - Ghost Spores
Have been thinking about the tier set bonus, the bleed is so little in damage even if it does help kill the kill target a bit. After so many games, plus the buffs to MM at this point I think full versa (with haste and mast) would help strengthen our hits and help our def a bit (more with the inc new rejuv winds buff).
Which brings me to my question, do you feel that the 4set currently is better than going full versa considering that hit the mark is
The bleed damage helps 100k AiS crit leaves a 40k dot, which is not bad. 4 dwt however makes Arcane shot crit a lot more often, and 50k crits are not bad at all, and help with putting pressure on plate wearers.
@@nikolaculina3583 yea that's why I initially liked it. However, AS, RF and KS are by far my top damage abilities, ArcS is 4th but far behind the top 3. The Bleed only does between 1.5-3.5% of my Overall damage and while the bleed/crit helps it does so sparingly. You'd have to go full crit to get more value for the tier set.
Conversely, Versatility adds damage to ALL our abilities by a considerable amount in pvp. At 26% verse that's over 20% more damage and with mastery at 10% which is > 20% more dam, the synergy is there to make the abilities that actually matter hit harder 100% of the time. Boosting Dps, burst, kill potential and boosting our damage mitigation.
Idk, I personally like the 4pc, i like how MM has dot heavy pressure but with the new damage buffs we received (20% in pvp) , and the new stamina buff we're getting in 10.0.7 I'm willing to bet that full verse on gear and just the 2pc set bonus that it would be much more beneficial for the spec. Now that we have unlimited conquest I wanna give it a go and see how it goes.
Still curious on @TosanTribeTV 's take on it with the buffs
@@randycabrera2579 Tosan uses the build which has around 20% haste/crit and with talent it amounts to 30% crit for AIS and RF and 40% for KS. After that you can still get around 25-28 vers and 10% mastery, while having a smoother spec because of haste. That is why he gets more value, the crit chance is reasonably high.
@@nikolaculina3583 Yessir, I know this. I do the same myself except now I use less crit because of the already high baseline crit. The only crit I have is from gun and sometimes head if I want more dam
You get a lot of haste/crit/mastery from the tier set which I like. I'm at 24% vers, I don't die very often on my hunter. I also feel like 6% vers (3% mitigation) more wouldn't make any difference in survivability personally.
Although the 2 set isn't amazing or anything, I think the 4 set is pretty strong as someone else mentioned here already, arcane shot crits are awesome. 2 set will make a small % of your damage but at the right times on a big crit aimed shot, that extra damage over 6 seconds can definitely add up with everything else. It won't be a lot of "overall damage" but the timing of the damage can matter at times.
Talents?
can find them on my community discord!
Man, these vids look so much like me playing, feel like I’m doing everything right but just can’t climb, always get targeted and die. Lucky to win 2/6
Im getting focued ALL games. All the time. like wtf.
Its incredibly annoying to play like that. The moment i set my traps they switch to me and GG. People don't know how to play with MM hunters
I know it is easy to assume it's the healers fault or no one is peeling you, but the #1 thing people struggle with in arena is surviving, especially in shuffle with no communication.
I guarantee there's a lot of things you could be doing better to kite/avoid damage. Getting trained is never fun but surviving is an art form, and getting good at it is mandatory for climbing!
Hunters are squishy but we have a lot of tools to avoid damage, and defensive CD's to mitigate damage that we can't avoid.
@@TosanTribeTV suriving is an art form that is true. I need to be responsable and play more safe. Its just annoying to go against dh/dk on every fkn game. For some reason hunters have a target over their heads lol. I had a game like 5 mins ago where i managed to survive, trap more often and i won 5/6. But its hard man. BM is so easy compared to MM. Ty man. Later.
@@d9nx239 Good luck have fun :D
( Tosan Has Earned the Achievement : Tosan The Destroyer Of The Rogues Shuffle Mania ) kkkkkkkkkk MANN I need a coach on my hunter !!! It's too much expensive an our of torture teaching a dumb some tricks ? xDDDDDDDDDDDDD
What's the song at start?