SA should definitely not be getting lectures on Xenophobia from a people who have been boko-haraming each other in the last decade. Let's all fix ourselves at home.
@@DeenChild I don't hope to do podcast abuti. It's just an online pseudonym. You need to learn that you are not right or perfect. Stop making all Nigerians look bad by always attacking people. We know you are not evil people, but accept the truth when we tell it to you so you can confront your issues as a nation and grow. SA is not perfect, but we've been "making it in life" because we look at our own issues. Don't be weak attacking people with sayings that aren't even relevant to them. I'm doing very well in life. And maybe I can even help you.
Beauty contestants do not represent anyone, what they do in reality is take a slot to represent themselves like in maritime, how vessels fly flag of convenience.
TELL US ABOUT FLAGS SHE PUT ON A SOCIAL MEDIA.IF SHE IS POUND TO REPRESENT AS WHY SHE DIDN'T PUT SOUTH AFRICAN FLAG AS WELL.🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦 Proudly South African ❤❤❤.
This Chidima girl bribed home affairs officials, All the way from Nigeria. Organizers of miss SA are culprits too. I suspected that they took bribe. By the way, when did they change the rules?
Well they killed two SAns who were married with Nigerians living there! They claim to revenge the death of druglord rip by the police allegedly. SHE IS BORN TO A ZIMBABWEAM MOTHER AND A NIGERIAN FATHER! AT THE TIME OF HER BIRTH HER MOTER DIDN´T HAVE CITIZENSHIP! OUR CONSTITUTIONAL LAW SAYS: IF A CHILD IS BORN IN SOUTH AFRICA TO FOREIGN PARENTS; THAT CHILD DOESN´T BECOME AUTOMATICALLY SOUTH AFRICA! SHE IS A MOTHER AND ASHAWO; THAT´S WHAT MADE HER NOT TO QUALIFY! AS PROFESSIONAL JOURNALIST; YOU SUPPOSED TO HAVE INVESTIGATED THE MATTER FIRST BEFORE SELLING LIES IN PUBLIC EXPOSING YOURSELVES🙄🙄! TYPICAL! YOUR SISTER IS ASHAWO PONA PONA! SHE IS NOT QUALIFIED- NO EX ASHAWO=MGOSHA NEEDED IN THE MISS SA!
You have valid points but you seem to not be addressing the elephant in the room. No one is disputing if she is legally South African or not. Concerns raised are as follows: 1. Both her parents are not South Africans 2. Not once before has she displayed pride in being a South African rather she waves a Nigerian and Mozambique flag in her socials 3. She is black yet for over 2 decades, she cannot speak any black South African language out of 11 this simply means that she does not connect with those of the same skin colour as hers from a country she claims to be part of. 4. South Africa is broken down and represented by the following identities (Basotho, Batswana, Mapedi, Maxhosa, Mazulu, VhaVenda, BaTsonga, BaSwati, MaNdebele, Coloureds, Indians and Whites) Out of that list which one does she embody since she wants to represent this country? You cannot tell me that you do not associate yourself with any of the above and yet want to individually represent the entire nation...... That is complete ignorance and no country would allow that, South Africa should stop being used as a testing field. 5. When asked in the pergeant what does she identify as, what will she say? Saying South African is not enough. 6. When asked about the traditions and South African customs, what will she say because not knowing a single South African indigenous language as a black person i a clear display that you dont associate with those people of that country. This is not xenophobia, its just clear facts. Who in their right mind would want to represent an entire nation of which you do not identify with, dont speak their language or practice any of their traditions? I guarantee you, she identifies as Igbo
Identifies as Igbo makes me laugh. Although, Chidinma is an Igbo name so I, myself, got confused. Her surname is a Yoruba one, meaning her dad must be a Yoruba man. And it is said in this video that her mum is from Mozambique. Now to your points, I agree with you completely if she hasn't shown any sign of assimilation over these years then she's not representing. She might fit into the 'Coloured' Identity though. Her parents background shouldn't matter if she holds South african passport. She is an independent adult now.
Thank you for breaking this down in such an articulate manner. Most of us were so distraught by the propaganda that was being spewed by this panel that we were reactionary. Well done, 👏🏽👏🏽
@ay1ism…. you need help… this conversation has moved way beyond issues of passports , permits etc It is a layered and more nuanced discussion than you are reducing it to …
@@ay1ism Did you just say she has a South African passport? Oh wow you are silly as hell, you think a passport or documents make one? Who they are at what heritage they're?? I am shocked that people really think this is merely about what documents you have from that country make you simply from there. This is a pageant and the winner will represent South Africa internationally, how on Earth will she represent a country she does not know any language nor any cultures and literally aligns herself with her fathers and mothers homeland more than South Africa. Lets not act like Nigerians will be ok with a South African representing them. Just stop with the bs now, yall like playing ignorant games.
This is scary hle. With all due respect, these ladies need to do research before they take on such topics that have the potential spark hate. People trust them and will take what they say as truth. I'm so shocked.
They are so clueless its scary.theu definitely need to do their research before spreading hatred and misinformation.south african do Hate immigrants.they have issue with immigrants that are lnow for turning kids and women into prostitutes.are drug cartels.and known human traffickers.its these actions that turned communities against them.there are areas in south africa where south Africans are even scared to go to because nigerians in particular are running havoc and doing all these scary things.so you guys really need to do your research
SHE IS BORN TO A ZIMBABWEAM MOTHER AND A NIGERIAN FATHER! AT THE TIME OF HER BIRTH HER MOTER DIDN´T HAVE CITIZENSHIP! OUR CONSTITUTIONAL LAW SAYS: IF A CHILD IS BORN IN SOUTH AFRICA TO FOREIGN PARENTS; THAT CHILD DOESN´T BECOME AUTOMATICALLY SOUTH AFRICA! SHE IS A MOTHER AND ASHAWO; THAT´S WHAT MADE HER NOT TO QUALIFY! AS PROFESSIONAL JOURNALIST; YOU SUPPOSED TO HAVE INVESTIGATED THE MATTER FIRST BEFORE SELLING LIES IN PUBLIC EXPOSING YOURSELVES🙄🙄! TYPICAL! YOUR SISTER IS ASHAWO PONA PONA! SHE IS NOT QUALIFIED- NO EX ASHAWO=MGOSHA NEEDED IN THE MISS SA!
This nigerians love hallucinating especially wen they broadcasting news about how they are treated in ada countries playing victims. But even once I never heard them having a discussion how their brothers are causing problems in ada countries doing all sort of crimes like selling drugs they ignore those facts
This is not xenophobic attack, she is simply not a South African. She is not automatically a South African citizen.Please respect our country. Every body expert us to shallow everything hell no. Nigerians are not accomodative how toxic were they during bigbrother titans . Happy people my goodness
Yes, your own awkward way. I guess you will be among those screaming racism if Trevor Noah is treated thesame way in America. You guys are full of hate.
@@ay1ism Unfortunately, it won't happen to Noah as I said America has their own way too and same as SA has its own way. Chichi is not representing whites/ Indians here but representing Black SAns so we have a right to qstn. She is SAn by citizen and black but by culture (igbo/yoruba/Mozambican)she doesn't represent us as black SAns. In SA, being dark skin doesn't automatically make you a black SAn we also have plenty of light skinned blacks here and they are not mixed race. So in order to be acknowledged as a true and proudly black SAn. You must know/present atleast one black SAn culture.
Ur Miss SA 2022 and 2023 to mentioned few, are they really SA? Yet u SAs dnt see it as a prblm for white to rep u but find it a prblm when ur fellow Black wanna rep u.
I would greatly appreciate it if you could also address the issue of Nigerians committing crimes in South Africa. I’m very interested in hearing your opinions on this topic.
You are not going to define us as Xenophobic. Each Country has its own rules SHE IS NOT SOUTH AFRICAN no matter what you can say about our Country. I think it's important also how you represent yourself in a day to day life. Typical example, this lady made it clear a long time ago by putting 2 flags on her social media, she indirectly distanced herself from South Africa. To her South Africa is just a host country, she belongs to Mozambique and Nigeria. She had those flags on her bio... Now you need to ask yourself which heritage do you represent Can you speak any of the South African vernaculars? NO SHE CAN'T The girl only speaks English and probably Portuguese and some Nigerian language.
SHE IS BORN TO A ZIMBABWEAM MOTHER AND A NIGERIAN FATHER! AT THE TIME OF HER BIRTH HER MOTER DIDN´T HAVE CITIZENSHIP! OUR CONSTITUTIONAL LAW SAYS: IF A CHILD IS BORN IN SOUTH AFRICA TO FOREIGN PARENTS; THAT CHILD DOESN´T BECOME AUTOMATICALLY SOUTH AFRICA! SHE IS A MOTHER AND ASHAWO; THAT´S WHAT MADE HER NOT TO QUALIFY! AS PROFESSIONAL JOURNALIST; YOU SUPPOSED TO HAVE INVESTIGATED THE MATTER FIRST BEFORE SELLING LIES IN PUBLIC EXPOSING YOURSELVES🙄🙄! TYPICAL! YOUR SISTER IS ASHAWO PONA PONA! SHE IS NOT QUALIFIED- NO EX ASHAWO=MGOSHA NEEDED IN THE MISS SA!
Her mother bought the identity document. She was not a South African. Consequently the victim of her scandal has suffered immensely as you can imagine how you exist without an identity number . Can you empathise with the victims instead of advocating for corruption.
Guys whether you like it or not your chidima is not south African no matter how much you fight for it. She's a foreigner here. None of her parents were born here. There are so many beautiful south African here don't even go there.
@@Gaelle-mi3hnit is not critisim but the fact. Her father came to south Africa on 2010 and got married in 2010 to. That clearly shows that she was not born by then. So how is she south African. If she was born in 2011 she wouldn't be 23 by now. So we not gonna take it lightly.for her having south African ID does not prove that she's now south African. She was not born here.
And what about Lydia Balogun? You Nigerians questioned if she was Nigerian enough to represent you because she's mixed? Did everyone call you Xenophobic?You wanted her out of the competition...her mother is a Nigerian born and raised in Nigeria. Double standards!!! We will not be bullied. No!
South African citizenship is not automatically granted. While being born in South Africa and having at least one parent who is a South African citizen or a permanent residency permit holder qualifies you for citizenship, not all individuals born in South Africa automatically become citizens, in terms of section 4(3) of the south african citizenship act of 1992. it was automatic citizenship before but it was since amended.
SHE IS BORN TO A ZIMBABWEAM MOTHER AND A NIGERIAN FATHER! AT THE TIME OF HER BIRTH HER MOTER DIDN´T HAVE CITIZENSHIP! OUR CONSTITUTIONAL LAW SAYS: IF A CHILD IS BORN IN SOUTH AFRICA TO FOREIGN PARENTS; THAT CHILD DOESN´T BECOME AUTOMATICALLY SOUTH AFRICA! SHE IS A MOTHER AND ASHAWO; THAT´S WHAT MADE HER NOT TO QUALIFY! AS PROFESSIONAL JOURNALIST; YOU SUPPOSED TO HAVE INVESTIGATED THE MATTER FIRST BEFORE SELLING LIES IN PUBLIC EXPOSING YOURSELVES🙄🙄! TYPICAL! YOUR SISTER IS ASHAWO PONA PONA! SHE IS NOT QUALIFIED- NO EX ASHAWO=MAGOSHA IMAGINE!😎😎
This is now a fraud case for Identity theft. I hope you report that as well. I wonder if you feel sorry for the woman who's life they ruined. Keep the same energy
SHE IS BORN TO A ZIMBABWEAM MOTHER AND A NIGERIAN FATHER! AT THE TIME OF HER BIRTH HER MOTER DIDN´T HAVE CITIZENSHIP! OUR CONSTITUTIONAL LAW SAYS: IF A CHILD IS BORN IN SOUTH AFRICA TO FOREIGN PARENTS; THAT CHILD DOESN´T BECOME AUTOMATICALLY SOUTH AFRICA! SHE IS A MOTHER AND ASHAWO; THAT´S WHAT MADE HER NOT TO QUALIFY! AS PROFESSIONAL JOURNALIST; YOU SUPPOSED TO HAVE INVESTIGATED THE MATTER FIRST BEFORE SELLING LIES IN PUBLIC EXPOSING YOURSELVES🙄🙄! TYPICAL! YOUR SISTER IS ASHAWO PONA PONA! SHE IS NOT QUALIFIED- NO EX ASHAWO=MGOSHA NEEDED IN THE MISS SA!
We are a very loving and welcoming nation. This has been proven over decades by millions who preferentially choose South Africa as a place to settle and call home. All we ask is to be represented by people who understand our cultures, virtues and our cultural norms. Nigeria would never allow a Miss Nigeria to be a Zandile Zulu from the Zulu kingdom in SA. All hell would break loose. Similarly, please allow us the space to have a dialogue about who we want to represent us.
But then people should not bully her on her social media. Why go to the lengths of bullying her on social media then ? Did she enter herself into the competition ? Sometimes it doesn't really hate to show some kindness and compassion. Yes you can toy toy against her being in the competition but people should stop being cruel and going to her social media to bully her!
@@ay1ism Wow… so now you are going to just straight up lie, at your big age? A country that has over 300 tribes and yet we only ever hear of 3 ( because the rest are oppressed 😏)… would celebrate a non- indigenous person prouncing around international stages as their representative?? What a load of BS!
As long as we are being told of xenophobia… She is not representing us. She believes in her Nigeria 🇳🇬 culture. Years back as Nigerians PUT out petitions against someone too because she doesn’t represent you. Try to be truthful.
SA immigrant Act: 1. Citizenship is granted by birth if one of the parents is South African. 2. Citizenship granted if born in SA by non-SA parents who have permanent residency. Ow btw, the lady's interpretation of our Rainbow nation concept is completely wrong. Next time invite a South African as a panelist.
Charles Theron is South African.the problem is illegal immigration in our country largely committed by black Africans.as we speak we have a huge drug problem largely committed by foreigners....come correctly in our country do right and we will be happy.....chidi is beautiful no doubt and no one has insulted her.
Please do a follow up video after it was found out and that she's an illegal immigrant who has stolen an innocent persons identity. You were so misinformed in this matter
Rainbow nation does not mean anyone who's from outside South Africa, you got it wrong there. Rainbow nation is referring to South Africans specifically. How can you celebrate beauty pageant of another country while you have yours in your own country?
WELL; WE HAVE CONSTITUTIONL LAW IN SOUTH AFRICA SINCE 2013-THERE IS AUTOMATICALLY CITIZEN BECAUSE A PERSON IS BORN IN SA! THANK GOD; IMAGINE THIS ASHAWO PONAPONA=MAGOSHA REPRESENTING OUR COUNTRY? SOUTH AFRICA IS NOT ZOOGERIA OK!! THINGS CHANGED SINCE 2013
I know she didn’t think about this but this is going to put her parents in the spotlight of immigration officers, her parents’ documents will be investigated.
South Africa chose specific cultures to make up their "rainbow" in 1994. Those are SePedi, Setswana, isiZulu, isiXhosa, isiNdebele, Xitsonga, TshiVenda and isiSwati and Sesotho. Some of these cultures are derived from other countries Lesotho, Botswana and Swaziland. They lawfully decided the culture that makes up black rainbow nation. We just want someone to represent who is consistent with the brand that was chosen. Otherwise it seems we don't value our own law. In time African Union needs to make more inclusive changes. But follow laws. Respect each other's laws. Also, remember, the pageant wanted people to vote, so people have power to decide who is eligible in their debate as the voting masses. No one disputes she's beautiful, that she's African and even South African. We're worried about practically applying this representation on global stages. We wouldn't want her to seem unembracing of her Nigerian or Mozambican roots. We are taking the organization to task for their decisions as voters. There's no Xenophobia in her case. No one wants her dead. This is a very political role and we want to be deliberate as South Africans regarding this. In future, let's engage one another. Ask South Africans and hear them out. Let's also learn to accept the culture shock that we don't react the same to different matters in our own homes, that's what makes our cultures different. I'm grateful though that we are bold enough to have these conversations.
WELL; WE HAVE CONSTITUTIONL LAW IN SOUTH AFRICA SINCE 2013-THERE IS AUTOMATICALLY CITIZEN BECAUSE A PERSON IS BORN IN SA! THANK GOD; IMAGINE THIS ASHAWOPONAPONA REPRESENTING OUR COUNTRY? SOUTH AFRICA IS NOT ZOOGERIA OK!! THINGS CHANGED SINCE 2013
These presenter said "she recently became a miss south Africa instead of 16 finalist,ya'll are preaching propaganda in social media,do ya'll research presenter before you utter nonsense.
Duduke or waiting u call urself. Pls go back to school and study ur history class ok. Ghana did it first and in turn Naija felt the need that they are infiltrating our space ok. Note, Naija no get time for all this hate.
@@LuckyUwhalogho-c6e You are chased everywhere not just South Africa. Sometime you need to do an introspection about oneself and your actions before you blame others
After one south african woman suffered due to loss of identity to Chidima's mother because of illegal immigration and corruption. Naturalized South African se voet.there is a lot of damage to be restored
When South Africans protect their own country, their indigeous culture, heritage etc, people are quick to label us XENOPHOBIC! Patriorism is not xenophobic! If a Nigerian girl who grew up in Nigeria from the age of 14 had a Somalian dad and maybe a Morrocan mom, and she ONLY posted Somali and Morrocan flags, she doesn't speak Yoroba or Igbo etc, would Nigerians be fine with that? I don't think so.
Sister Thabo Mbeki said, when foreigners tell us we are xenophobic we should not agree or believe them, the word xenophobia is meant to silince us from addressing our rights so please the word is meaningless Aluta sists
Ironically, there are a lot of rainbow people in your country which is a strange thing to African cultural heritage. If she was born in South Africa or hold south african passport, why do you think she's different to you on international stage?
@@ay1ism if Christianity & Islam have taught you that being gay is unAfrican please go and unlearn your indoctrination. We were civilisations & Kingdoms before Islam & Christianity. Go find yourself in your country before telling South Africans how they should bend over backwards to accommodate you and your people. We do not have birthright citizenship
This girl has shown she doesn't care about South Africa except for her own benefit. Otherwise, she would have withdrawn by now. How can you represent people who are so divided about your eligibility to represent or speak on their behalf? Anything that divides South Africans right 🚮 By the way, you can keep the perception you have about Black South Africans. We don't even care anymore
Yey Rainbow Nation doesn't mean we need the whole world in SA 🌍.... We're Rainbow nation because we different race.....SA is Black, white, indian and colour people....if both parents are from SA
I've been looking for this original clip. Now the update is out and we are still waiting for the full investigation to conclude but so far, it is suspected that identity fraud may have taken place by Chichis mom. And that on it's own has further implications, first being our incompetent and corrupt officials that have allowed this and many more others but most important of all, is her child not being able to get the ID number as a south African child. Be it him or she has for the past 23 years of Chichi having that ID or 14 years if counting since 2010 meant that the child was a ghost in their own country because a identity no. meant to be their lifeline was given to someone else depriving them of their God given rights in this land to education, health and social services that they were not able to get because technically they are illegal in their own country. Another thing is in our schools need you to have a birth certificate to register and to matriculate you register for your national ID so that government is able to attach your academic record to your ID and be able to trace your school history should such cases happen. Now could yall please just think of that mother and child who were not able to be "South African" as others are. I'm not using any xeno rhetoric to make my point but if you just as patriotic about Nigeria than you can understand.
I believe the South African government needs to address these issues. Some foreign nationals come to South Africa to obtain papers and ultimately benefit from the country. We should hold our government accountable for this problem, rather than blaming innocent individuals like Chidima. Corruption within the government is the root cause of the issue. South Africa has become a playground for corruption, which affects its integrity. It's possible that even her parents obtained their papers illegally. Many black foreign nationals seek to identify as South African to gain papers and succeed elsewhere, which might lead to the exploitation of the country for their benefit. Indigenous South Africans would likely find this unacceptable and would certainly resist. However, the primary issue remains with the South African government. They need to reform their policies and strengthen enforcement, as the current situation makes South Africa a vulnerable target, and many foreign nationals are quite comfortable here.
True in u.k no such luck kid must live here continuous for 7 yrs then only at 18 gets citizenship. 😂😂😂no popping babies for papers and marriages for papers and the amounts of money you have to pay to start the processes are ridiculously high😂😂. The new home affairs minister must take a page outa the u.k laws and of so many other countries 🎉🎉❤❤
We will not be bullied. Miss South Africa is a national flag bearer, a representative of our people to the globe. South Africans have a right to demand to be represented by someone that they resonates with them and their indigenous traditions. We refuse to be represented by someone who doesn’t resonate with the majority of the people who have fought and struggled for this country.
WELL; WE HAVE CONSTITUTIONL LAW IN SOUTH AFRICA SINCE 2013-THERE IS AUTOMATICALLY CITIZEN BECAUSE A PERSON IS BORN IN SA! THANK GOD; IMAGINE THIS ASHAWOPONAPONA REPRESENTING OUR COUNTRY? SOUTH AFRICA IS NOT ZOOGERIA OK!! THINGS CHANGED SINCE 2013
"Lies people hate about Nigerians"??? So all of Nigerians are liars???? They might have been mistaken about their information, does that now make all Nigerians liars??
I loved the conversation, south africa is not xenophobic from the best of my knowledge as a south african. we are only named xenophobic when we apply the law, for example: let's say an illegal foreigner commit a crime in SA which affect south africans, obviously south africans will demand for such person to be deported but the opposition will claim that south africans are zenophobic forgeting that "firstly" the person came illegal to the country "secondly" the person is contributing to crime which on later stage disadvantage south africans..... i think the best way to handle the situation is to pay attention to the law and the circumstances. most illegal foreigners are enjoying south africa because they are not causing attention to themselves however there are some who are causing attention by committing crime that cannot be tolarated by the community therefore, we have to act from there. secondly i would advice that don't compare similar crimes and the consequences, for example: if your child steal your money you will either talk to the child or punish the child in a good manner but if someone who you don't even know commit the same crime you might even call the community to deal with that particular person. so the punishment won't always be the same. in my community there are lot of "illegal foreigners" but we don't bother them because they are not committing crime but there is also small group which does other things which is not accepted such as fighting each other over fishes to such an extent where they burn in other alive in a house... but it only happened twice around 2017 so if such behavior continues we will have to act as a community because it causes bad image and it also scares us. sometimes we also have to arrange a proper burial of someone we don't even know his relatives. other than that we are brother and sisters as Africans, help us to stop crime . the issue of illegal foreigners is very troubling because we don't even know if those people left their countries after committing crime or they came here to better their lives. As for legal foreigners i see no problem will them cause their identity can be verified and they can be traced if needed.
Came back to this channel to give you feedback as you called South African’s xenophobic for standing up for their rights and country. The department of Home Affairs has found that her mother committed fraud obtaining South African documentation, therefore Chidimma Adetshina is not South African. You are very quick to call patriotic citizens xenophobic and spread misinformation and damage for views and clicks. Pathetic.
Nigerians excel in everything accept staying home and fixing their own country and excelling there. The arrogance and entitlement is on another level. I love Nigerians...most of the christian content I listen to is from Nigerian, wrong is wrong shem... Let each country fight for it's own people, just like Botswana and Namibia...they do it 🙅🏾♀️✌🏾
I have no issues with legal citizenship. And if that's the case, No Debate, she qualifies for Miss SA pegeant. But What about the SA Home Affairs findings that the mother committed fraud and stolen identity to acquire citizenship?
Ladies please do your research before calling names. This has nothing to do with beauty, it is an issue of stolen identity. Can you stop and think what happens to the poor South African child who had her identity stolen by this Chidima. Do you know there’s more adults now who had their ID stolen in the same manner and now they cannot wotk, they cannot get their ID books because the likes of Chidima already owns that ID. I am glad this has come up so that it can be addressed properly by our govt. I also blame South African home affairs because people have been buying ID’s like you buy food at the supermarket. This kind of fraud is the reason why we are here today. Nobody ever cared about what happens to the child who’s identity they have used for a person who does not qualify to be South African. There are people who get their citizenship in a legal way whereas on the other side there are people who take short cuts and our own govt workers within home affairs enable that. They all deserve to be arrested for fraud. I am waiting to hear another meeting where you ladies will talk to your own people to stop going out and conduct fraud in other countries and then turn around and claim to be victims. The real victims are the kids they have befrauded and stole their ID, these kids can’ get work in their own country, they can’t get their high school results and can’t go to university because everything is linked to this ID that has been stolen. Let us fight for justice for all, not one sided justice please.
But this is a small thing bafwethu, A family thing. Bekuyitiye nje neighbors. Kindly leave us alone. We will invite you masesihlabe inkomo. Syanithanda niyezwa.🤗 Bye-bye
"Rivalry between South Africans & Nigerians?" "Chidima is Miss South Africa" Before sitting on such tables. Please ensure you have the full details of what you're saying.
You automatically qualify for South African citizenship if: you are born in South Africa and at least one of your parents is a South African citizen or a SA permanent residency permit holder if you are adopted by a South African citizen. You can apply for South African citizenship by descent or naturalisation. You can also apply to retain your citizenship before you obtain citizenship of another country. Unless you have been granted retention of citizenship before acquiring citizenship of another country, you will lose your SA citizenship automatically. You may apply to have your South African citizenship reinstated if you are a former citizen by birth or descent and you have returned to South Africa permanently. You may renounce your South African citizenship if you intend getting citizenship of another country.
Correction - your opening statement you say she has become Miss SA - thats not true - she entered the Miss SA competition- she did not win the competition- she has since withdrawn from SA competition.
SA should definitely not be getting lectures on Xenophobia from a people who have been boko-haraming each other in the last decade. Let's all fix ourselves at home.
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😂😂😂 Imagine
This is why your podcast only have 2 subscribers. You'll never make it in life.
@@DeenChild I don't hope to do podcast abuti. It's just an online pseudonym. You need to learn that you are not right or perfect. Stop making all Nigerians look bad by always attacking people. We know you are not evil people, but accept the truth when we tell it to you so you can confront your issues as a nation and grow. SA is not perfect, but we've been "making it in life" because we look at our own issues. Don't be weak attacking people with sayings that aren't even relevant to them. I'm doing very well in life. And maybe I can even help you.
A stupid with full of hate
You speak of black on black in SA, what about tribalism in Nigeria?
We are bashing SA while in Nigeria we promote more tribalism and religious sentiments among us 😢
We ?
You are certainly from the xenophobic nation
Thank you..
@@allymolatelo3808 you are welcome
Does it make it right even if there was tribalism in Nigeria?
@@nedgrg6800 like honest and non based people keep it up
This is simple. Nigeria organise your own beauty peagant so that she can be the Nigerian Queen
They have and rejected their own for being mixed race😂😂😂talk biut hypocrites
Never
It’s not xenophobic she must go for Miss Nigeria and leave our South African kids to go for Miss South Africa
Why must she? Why would she represent a country she knows/expirenced little on?
With proper DNA, you are not even a South African.......go and do your research 86% of South Africans are not South Africans
@@sugarzblossom8168😂😂😂we don't choose if it was like that I would choose to be European
@@sidahagarwal742 exactly she can't choose which country she was born in...also it is quite unfortunate that you would choose a different continent
@@sugarzblossom8168mybe is Nigeria is allowed but in South Africa you need to have atleast one South African parent to be South African
Why is other African countries meddling in our own sovereignty in RSA , South Africa is a country on its own we are not Xenophobic
You are!
@@sydneyshelt6569 You can call me Nigerianphobic!!!!! I love all the other Africans except Nigerians,Im sorry and never will
You are
@@sydneyshelt6569and soo?
@@sydneyshelt6569 nah we are, we have the biggest number of migrants more than any other country in Africa
If i was her i was just gona pull out of the competition,its not worth it,how do you represent people that dont want you to represent them..
Nigerians don't back down, they force themselves down other people's countries
Now she has been exposed shamefully. She should have withdrawn amicably.
Beauty contestants do not represent anyone, what they do in reality is take a slot to represent themselves like in maritime, how vessels fly flag of convenience.
Ladies you owe South Africans an appology, from each of you recognising where you went wrong. Thank you. Enjoy the show this Saturday!
Another olodo just talk
TELL US ABOUT FLAGS SHE PUT ON A SOCIAL MEDIA.IF SHE IS POUND TO REPRESENT AS WHY SHE DIDN'T PUT SOUTH AFRICAN FLAG AS WELL.🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦 Proudly South African ❤❤❤.
Can somebody please respond to this question?
They won't respond bcos they know who she really represents
This Chidima girl bribed home affairs officials, All the way from Nigeria. Organizers of miss SA are culprits too. I suspected that they took bribe.
By the way, when did they change the rules?
Is bcos she is from Nigeria, she is proud of her own country. She is just in SA for the benefits
@@sehlohomotsepashut that gutter you all mouth envy will desteoy yoi guys.
If a South African worn in Nigeria it is impossible that Nigerians would excited that is a lie.
Yet you people would vote for a white woman to be miss south Africa?😂😂😂
The mentality is hilarious
we will not care so much, the tribes here are too plenty, it will be like having another tribe win, normal stuff
Well they killed two SAns who were married with Nigerians living there! They claim to revenge the death of druglord rip by the police allegedly. SHE IS BORN TO A ZIMBABWEAM MOTHER AND A NIGERIAN FATHER! AT THE TIME OF HER BIRTH HER MOTER DIDN´T HAVE CITIZENSHIP! OUR CONSTITUTIONAL LAW SAYS: IF A CHILD IS BORN IN SOUTH AFRICA TO FOREIGN PARENTS; THAT CHILD DOESN´T BECOME AUTOMATICALLY SOUTH AFRICA! SHE IS A MOTHER AND ASHAWO; THAT´S WHAT MADE HER NOT TO QUALIFY! AS PROFESSIONAL JOURNALIST; YOU SUPPOSED TO HAVE INVESTIGATED THE MATTER FIRST BEFORE SELLING LIES IN PUBLIC EXPOSING YOURSELVES🙄🙄! TYPICAL! YOUR SISTER IS ASHAWO PONA PONA! SHE IS NOT QUALIFIED- NO EX ASHAWO=MGOSHA NEEDED IN THE MISS SA!
@itohanmomodu dont lie.
@@kagisokhunou6428 it's not a lie.
Nigerians care less on things like this.
south africa is a rainbow nation of it's people not Illegals
There is no xenophobia in south africa, there is self love, she's not a south african but nigerian
Says a xenophob
She have a Nigerian Father and Mozambique mother and born outside South Africa. Accurate news, there's no Xenophobia in South Africa from a Malawian.
Braaa her mother is an RSA citizen of Mozambiquen descent
@@cefasfah85lie her mother is mozambiqen period
You have valid points but you seem to not be addressing the elephant in the room. No one is disputing if she is legally South African or not. Concerns raised are as follows:
1. Both her parents are not South Africans
2. Not once before has she displayed pride in being a South African rather she waves a Nigerian and Mozambique flag in her socials
3. She is black yet for over 2 decades, she cannot speak any black South African language out of 11 this simply means that she does not connect with those of the same skin colour as hers from a country she claims to be part of.
4. South Africa is broken down and represented by the following identities (Basotho, Batswana, Mapedi, Maxhosa, Mazulu, VhaVenda, BaTsonga, BaSwati, MaNdebele, Coloureds, Indians and Whites) Out of that list which one does she embody since she wants to represent this country? You cannot tell me that you do not associate yourself with any of the above and yet want to individually represent the entire nation...... That is complete ignorance and no country would allow that, South Africa should stop being used as a testing field.
5. When asked in the pergeant what does she identify as, what will she say? Saying South African is not enough.
6. When asked about the traditions and South African customs, what will she say because not knowing a single South African indigenous language as a black person i a clear display that you dont associate with those people of that country.
This is not xenophobia, its just clear facts. Who in their right mind would want to represent an entire nation of which you do not identify with, dont speak their language or practice any of their traditions?
I guarantee you, she identifies as Igbo
Identifies as Igbo makes me laugh. Although, Chidinma is an Igbo name so I, myself, got confused. Her surname is a Yoruba one, meaning her dad must be a Yoruba man. And it is said in this video that her mum is from Mozambique. Now to your points, I agree with you completely if she hasn't shown any sign of assimilation over these years then she's not representing. She might fit into the 'Coloured' Identity though. Her parents background shouldn't matter if she holds South african passport. She is an independent adult now.
Thank you for breaking this down in such an articulate manner. Most of us were so distraught by the propaganda that was being spewed by this panel that we were reactionary.
Well done, 👏🏽👏🏽
@ay1ism…. you need help… this conversation has moved way beyond issues of passports , permits etc
It is a layered and more nuanced discussion than you are reducing it to …
@@ay1ism Did you just say she has a South African passport? Oh wow you are silly as hell, you think a passport or documents make one? Who they are at what heritage they're?? I am shocked that people really think this is merely about what documents you have from that country make you simply from there. This is a pageant and the winner will represent South Africa internationally, how on Earth will she represent a country she does not know any language nor any cultures and literally aligns herself with her fathers and mothers homeland more than South Africa. Lets not act like Nigerians will be ok with a South African representing them. Just stop with the bs now, yall like playing ignorant games.
@nc9922 You have not made any sensible contribution yet you said sone needs help? Lol.
This is scary hle. With all due respect, these ladies need to do research before they take on such topics that have the potential spark hate. People trust them and will take what they say as truth. I'm so shocked.
They are so clueless its scary.theu definitely need to do their research before spreading hatred and misinformation.south african do Hate immigrants.they have issue with immigrants that are lnow for turning kids and women into prostitutes.are drug cartels.and known human traffickers.its these actions that turned communities against them.there are areas in south africa where south Africans are even scared to go to because nigerians in particular are running havoc and doing all these scary things.so you guys really need to do your research
Exactly they should do more research 🤦🤞
Exactly they should do more research 🤦🤞
She must enter Miss Nigeria
"she recently became Miss South Africa" please don't lie on a public platform lol
😂😂😂 I thought I was the only one who heard that.
SHE IS BORN TO A ZIMBABWEAM MOTHER AND A NIGERIAN FATHER! AT THE TIME OF HER BIRTH HER MOTER DIDN´T HAVE CITIZENSHIP! OUR CONSTITUTIONAL LAW SAYS: IF A CHILD IS BORN IN SOUTH AFRICA TO FOREIGN PARENTS; THAT CHILD DOESN´T BECOME AUTOMATICALLY SOUTH AFRICA! SHE IS A MOTHER AND ASHAWO; THAT´S WHAT MADE HER NOT TO QUALIFY! AS PROFESSIONAL JOURNALIST; YOU SUPPOSED TO HAVE INVESTIGATED THE MATTER FIRST BEFORE SELLING LIES IN PUBLIC EXPOSING YOURSELVES🙄🙄! TYPICAL! YOUR SISTER IS ASHAWO PONA PONA! SHE IS NOT QUALIFIED- NO EX ASHAWO=MGOSHA NEEDED IN THE MISS SA!
Speaking into existence
This nigerians love hallucinating especially wen they broadcasting news about how they are treated in ada countries playing victims. But even once I never heard them having a discussion how their brothers are causing problems in ada countries doing all sort of crimes like selling drugs they ignore those facts
She has not won yet. Just one of the contestants
This is not xenophobic attack, she is simply not a South African. She is not automatically a South African citizen.Please respect our country. Every body expert us to shallow everything hell no.
Nigerians are not accomodative how toxic were they during bigbrother titans .
Happy people my goodness
She is not south african at all. So she does not qualify to represent that nation
What if the mother was from Belgium and father from Ireland?
@@nevilledausab5686 they don't qualify
She is South Africa as you if you was born there or hold South African passport. Would you say Trevor Noah is not an American?
Jealousy full Una body. No worry wotowoto is coming!
The truth came out now who's fooling who
Now there's fraud , please do a video on that 😅
Please do this show again, we have the facts now 😊
The misinformation in this video is appalling yerrr🤦🏾♂️
SA is SA not America nor UK. We do things our own way.
Our terms. We are not ashamed.
Yes, your own awkward way. I guess you will be among those screaming racism if Trevor Noah is treated thesame way in America. You guys are full of hate.
@@bukiwenobendle7080 she must compete in Makoko
@@ay1ism Unfortunately, it won't happen to Noah as I said America has their own way too and same as SA has its own way. Chichi is not representing whites/ Indians here but representing Black SAns so we have a right to qstn. She is SAn by citizen and black but by culture (igbo/yoruba/Mozambican)she doesn't represent us as black SAns. In SA, being dark skin doesn't automatically make you a black SAn we also have plenty of light skinned blacks here and they are not mixed race. So in order to be acknowledged as a true and proudly black SAn. You must know/present atleast one black SAn culture.
Ur Miss SA 2022 and 2023 to mentioned few, are they really SA? Yet u SAs dnt see it as a prblm for white to rep u but find it a prblm when ur fellow Black wanna rep u.
I would greatly appreciate it if you could also address the issue of Nigerians committing crimes in South Africa. I’m very interested in hearing your opinions on this topic.
You are not going to define us as Xenophobic.
Each Country has its own rules SHE IS NOT SOUTH AFRICAN no matter what you can say about our Country.
I think it's important also how you represent yourself in a day to day life. Typical example, this lady made it clear a long time ago by putting 2 flags on her social media, she indirectly distanced herself from South Africa.
To her South Africa is just a host country, she belongs to Mozambique and Nigeria. She had those flags on her bio...
Now you need to ask yourself which heritage do you represent
Can you speak any of the South African vernaculars? NO SHE CAN'T
The girl only speaks English and probably Portuguese and some Nigerian language.
Thank you
Xenophobia is part of south Africa culture! The whole world knows this!
its Miss South Africa not Miss Africa
she must go to Nigeria
Go and force her to go. Whether you like it or not, she is as south african as you!
With proper DNA, you are not even a South African.......go and do your research 86% of South Africans are not the real South Africans
SHE IS BORN TO A ZIMBABWEAM MOTHER AND A NIGERIAN FATHER! AT THE TIME OF HER BIRTH HER MOTER DIDN´T HAVE CITIZENSHIP! OUR CONSTITUTIONAL LAW SAYS: IF A CHILD IS BORN IN SOUTH AFRICA TO FOREIGN PARENTS; THAT CHILD DOESN´T BECOME AUTOMATICALLY SOUTH AFRICA! SHE IS A MOTHER AND ASHAWO; THAT´S WHAT MADE HER NOT TO QUALIFY! AS PROFESSIONAL JOURNALIST; YOU SUPPOSED TO HAVE INVESTIGATED THE MATTER FIRST BEFORE SELLING LIES IN PUBLIC EXPOSING YOURSELVES🙄🙄! TYPICAL! YOUR SISTER IS ASHAWO PONA PONA! SHE IS NOT QUALIFIED- NO EX ASHAWO=MGOSHA NEEDED IN THE MISS SA!
I think you south africa are just jealous because you guys never do well is only the foreigners that do well l
@@destinyadam1160😂😂😂we got state of the art competition.
Why will we go to Nigeria 🇳🇬
We are not suffering
Why did she put Flag for Nigerian Flag and Mozambique flag and not put South African flag as well.
Because she is fed up with SA's hate.😊
You hate her
It's her choice.
@@MagicMbotshwaShe must go with her choice to Nigeria then
@@ludwembam3515you talk but u won't change anything
We can't even spell her names how is she south African
You must be semi illiterate then, coz I can spell your name and Trevor Noah's even though I am not a South African.
Bro white South Africans cant even spell you names, what are you talking about.
I can’t wait for the next episode on this matter. Looking forward..
Her mother bought the identity document. She was not a South African. Consequently the victim of her scandal has suffered immensely as you can imagine how you exist without an identity number . Can you empathise with the victims instead of advocating for corruption.
Guys whether you like it or not your chidima is not south African no matter how much you fight for it. She's a foreigner here. None of her parents were born here. There are so many beautiful south African here don't even go there.
Why you people you are not criticising the lebanese lady.
@@Gaelle-mi3hnit is not critisim but the fact. Her father came to south Africa on 2010 and got married in 2010 to. That clearly shows that she was not born by then. So how is she south African. If she was born in 2011 she wouldn't be 23 by now. So we not gonna take it lightly.for her having south African ID does not prove that she's now south African. She was not born here.
And what about Lydia Balogun? You Nigerians questioned if she was Nigerian enough to represent you because she's mixed? Did everyone call you Xenophobic?You wanted her out of the competition...her mother is a Nigerian born and raised in Nigeria. Double standards!!! We will not be bullied. No!
South African citizenship is not automatically granted. While being born in South Africa and having at least one parent who is a South African citizen or a permanent residency permit holder qualifies you for citizenship, not all individuals born in South Africa automatically become citizens, in terms of section 4(3) of the south african citizenship act of 1992. it was automatic citizenship before but it was since amended.
SHE IS BORN TO A ZIMBABWEAM MOTHER AND A NIGERIAN FATHER! AT THE TIME OF HER BIRTH HER MOTER DIDN´T HAVE CITIZENSHIP! OUR CONSTITUTIONAL LAW SAYS: IF A CHILD IS BORN IN SOUTH AFRICA TO FOREIGN PARENTS; THAT CHILD DOESN´T BECOME AUTOMATICALLY SOUTH AFRICA! SHE IS A MOTHER AND ASHAWO; THAT´S WHAT MADE HER NOT TO QUALIFY! AS PROFESSIONAL JOURNALIST; YOU SUPPOSED TO HAVE INVESTIGATED THE MATTER FIRST BEFORE SELLING LIES IN PUBLIC EXPOSING YOURSELVES🙄🙄! TYPICAL! YOUR SISTER IS ASHAWO PONA PONA! SHE IS NOT QUALIFIED- NO EX ASHAWO=MAGOSHA IMAGINE!😎😎
I think you guys need to do a follow up episode since you have initially voiced out your concern.
Please apologise to South Africa
This is now a fraud case for Identity theft. I hope you report that as well. I wonder if you feel sorry for the woman who's life they ruined. Keep the same energy
STOP LYING SHE IS NOT MISS SOUTH AFRICA SHE IS IN THE TOP SIXTEEN,THOUGHTS ARE VERY SIMPLE,CAN YOU LEAVE SOUTH AFRICA IN PEACE AND TAKE YOUR CHIDIMMA
SHE IS BORN TO A ZIMBABWEAM MOTHER AND A NIGERIAN FATHER! AT THE TIME OF HER BIRTH HER MOTER DIDN´T HAVE CITIZENSHIP! OUR CONSTITUTIONAL LAW SAYS: IF A CHILD IS BORN IN SOUTH AFRICA TO FOREIGN PARENTS; THAT CHILD DOESN´T BECOME AUTOMATICALLY SOUTH AFRICA! SHE IS A MOTHER AND ASHAWO; THAT´S WHAT MADE HER NOT TO QUALIFY! AS PROFESSIONAL JOURNALIST; YOU SUPPOSED TO HAVE INVESTIGATED THE MATTER FIRST BEFORE SELLING LIES IN PUBLIC EXPOSING YOURSELVES🙄🙄! TYPICAL! YOUR SISTER IS ASHAWO PONA PONA! SHE IS NOT QUALIFIED- NO EX ASHAWO=MGOSHA NEEDED IN THE MISS SA!
As if u own south Africa, slima
sibona wena uyisilima bhuti
At that time you hate each other in Nigeria because of tribalism
We are a very loving and welcoming nation. This has been proven over decades by millions who preferentially choose South Africa as a place to settle and call home.
All we ask is to be represented by people who understand our cultures, virtues and our cultural norms.
Nigeria would never allow a Miss Nigeria to be a Zandile Zulu from the Zulu kingdom in SA. All hell would break loose.
Similarly, please allow us the space to have a dialogue about who we want to represent us.
But then people should not bully her on her social media. Why go to the lengths of bullying her on social media then ? Did she enter herself into the competition ?
Sometimes it doesn't really hate to show some kindness and compassion. Yes you can toy toy against her being in the competition but people should stop being cruel and going to her social media to bully her!
U are only good at being xenophobic
Yes, if Zandile Zulu is born in Nigeria. Her ancestral heritage wouldnt matter to us, you see how we have grown and evolved ourself better than you?
So you think she can't represent the culture in which she grew up in?
@@ay1ism Wow… so now you are going to just straight up lie, at your big age? A country that has over 300 tribes and yet we only ever hear of 3 ( because the rest are oppressed 😏)… would celebrate a non- indigenous person prouncing around international stages as their representative??
What a load of BS!
As long as we are being told of xenophobia…
She is not representing us. She believes in her Nigeria 🇳🇬 culture.
Years back as Nigerians PUT out petitions against someone too because she doesn’t represent you.
Try to be truthful.
Some things are truly for South African
SA immigrant Act:
1. Citizenship is granted by birth if one of the parents is South African.
2. Citizenship granted if born in SA by non-SA parents who have permanent residency.
Ow btw, the lady's interpretation of our Rainbow nation concept is completely wrong.
Next time invite a South African as a panelist.
Charles Theron is South African.the problem is illegal immigration in our country largely committed by black Africans.as we speak we have a huge drug problem largely committed by foreigners....come correctly in our country do right and we will be happy.....chidi is beautiful no doubt and no one has insulted her.
Tribalism in Nigeria can smelled in the air...
They not accepting each ada in Nigeria but they expect other countries to accept them hypocrites of note
They are busy bokoharaming each other in their country but want us to accept in our country lamabokoharam lawa.
Please do a follow up video after it was found out and that she's an illegal immigrant who has stolen an innocent persons identity. You were so misinformed in this matter
Rainbow nation does not mean anyone who's from outside South Africa, you got it wrong there. Rainbow nation is referring to South Africans specifically. How can you celebrate beauty pageant of another country while you have yours in your own country?
WELL; WE HAVE CONSTITUTIONL LAW IN SOUTH AFRICA SINCE 2013-THERE IS AUTOMATICALLY CITIZEN BECAUSE A PERSON IS BORN IN SA! THANK GOD; IMAGINE THIS ASHAWO PONAPONA=MAGOSHA REPRESENTING OUR COUNTRY?
SOUTH AFRICA IS NOT ZOOGERIA OK!!
THINGS CHANGED SINCE 2013
Created by who
Because RSA is a British initiative
@@cefasfah85 The entire Africa is a European initiative by way of the Berlin Conferences. What's your point?
South African girl would not even contest in Nigeria, sorry...
This isn't xenophobic, i am also here in SA but this isn't xenophobic. She doesn't represent them
We need a follow up episode now that there are new developments in this case.
We now know it was identity theft, will u address it now?
When is Nigeria all accommodating, when we have a problem of ethnic bigotry.
I know she didn’t think about this but this is going to put her parents in the spotlight of immigration officers, her parents’ documents will be investigated.
Her mom stole the identity document.
Fusegani!! She will never be South African ambassador.
She is carrying an RSA passport slima
South Africa chose specific cultures to make up their "rainbow" in 1994. Those are SePedi, Setswana, isiZulu, isiXhosa, isiNdebele, Xitsonga, TshiVenda and isiSwati and Sesotho. Some of these cultures are derived from other countries Lesotho, Botswana and Swaziland. They lawfully decided the culture that makes up black rainbow nation. We just want someone to represent who is consistent with the brand that was chosen. Otherwise it seems we don't value our own law. In time African Union needs to make more inclusive changes. But follow laws. Respect each other's laws. Also, remember, the pageant wanted people to vote, so people have power to decide who is eligible in their debate as the voting masses. No one disputes she's beautiful, that she's African and even South African. We're worried about practically applying this representation on global stages. We wouldn't want her to seem unembracing of her Nigerian or Mozambican roots. We are taking the organization to task for their decisions as voters. There's no Xenophobia in her case. No one wants her dead. This is a very political role and we want to be deliberate as South Africans regarding this. In future, let's engage one another. Ask South Africans and hear them out. Let's also learn to accept the culture shock that we don't react the same to different matters in our own homes, that's what makes our cultures different. I'm grateful though that we are bold enough to have these conversations.
WELL; WE HAVE CONSTITUTIONL LAW IN SOUTH AFRICA SINCE 2013-THERE IS AUTOMATICALLY CITIZEN BECAUSE A PERSON IS BORN IN SA! THANK GOD; IMAGINE THIS ASHAWOPONAPONA REPRESENTING OUR COUNTRY?
SOUTH AFRICA IS NOT ZOOGERIA OK!!
THINGS CHANGED SINCE 2013
These presenter said "she recently became a miss south Africa instead of 16 finalist,ya'll are preaching propaganda in social media,do ya'll research presenter before you utter nonsense.
Nigerians chased Ghananians in the 80s ...saying they are taking their opportunities so dont holify them
Oh they chased us first and we did payback 😂😂 like you guys are chasing us now
Duduke or waiting u call urself. Pls go back to school and study ur history class ok. Ghana did it first and in turn Naija felt the need that they are infiltrating our space ok. Note, Naija no get time for all this hate.
@@LuckyUwhalogho-c6e 😂😂thank you for admiting...Africans are not holly at all, we all mistreat each other.
@@LuckyUwhalogho-c6e You are chased everywhere not just South Africa. Sometime you need to do an introspection about oneself and your actions before you blame others
@@LuckyUwhalogho-c6eSTOP destroying our children s lives stop feeding our children with drugs if u are visitor learn to behave
Few moments later 😂😂😂😂😂 ohh my SA’ns I love you for standing on business 😊
Breaking news she not South African never been born in South Africa home-affairs investigation,we want them deeper people should be jailed 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
After one south african woman suffered due to loss of identity to Chidima's mother because of illegal immigration and corruption. Naturalized South African se voet.there is a lot of damage to be restored
When South Africans protect their own country, their indigeous culture, heritage etc, people are quick to label us XENOPHOBIC! Patriorism is not xenophobic! If a Nigerian girl who grew up in Nigeria from the age of 14 had a Somalian dad and maybe a Morrocan mom, and she ONLY posted Somali and Morrocan flags, she doesn't speak Yoroba or Igbo etc, would Nigerians be fine with that? I don't think so.
Sister Thabo Mbeki said, when foreigners tell us we are xenophobic we should not agree or believe them, the word xenophobia is meant to silince us from addressing our rights so please the word is meaningless Aluta sists
Why everyone is so obsessed about South Africa,it means we're much important in the whole African countries 😂#proudlySouthAfrican🇿🇦✊
what about the Lyla, the girl who was light skin and attacked by Nigerians????
If we're xenophobic, why are y'all still coming😂😂
I disagree with the word xenophobia
This is not an issue of Rainbow nation, how the hell does Nigeria fit in to South Africa race or cultural discourse?
Pls rest
@@LuckyUwhalogho-c6e rested perfectly in my fathers land. Wena?
Exactly!
Ironically, there are a lot of rainbow people in your country which is a strange thing to African cultural heritage. If she was born in South Africa or hold south african passport, why do you think she's different to you on international stage?
@@ay1ism if Christianity & Islam have taught you that being gay is unAfrican please go and unlearn your indoctrination. We were civilisations & Kingdoms before Islam & Christianity. Go find yourself in your country before telling South Africans how they should bend over backwards to accommodate you and your people. We do not have birthright citizenship
She is not a South African
Tell that to yourself.
Why did you let her enter the competition?
@@armandojohanna6000Corruption.
@@ludwembam3515uyanya
There's a history of xenophobia in Nigeria
She must go and try it in Morocco will see if south african is xenophobic
Leave Morocco out of your Mouth..
@nanagladys582 This is what I mean, right here so us as south african we must make everyone happy .. we have value and RSA is not USA nor UK
@@nanagladys582 Why? We are being accused of being the most xenophobic county on the continent but the truth is we are not even close.
@@mdengentongaxhaminimaybe because hate murder on other nationality is outrageous.
South Isn't even close to countries with the most immigrants.
@@mdengentongaxhaminiThey want to destroy us but they live here
Being born in SA does make you Automatically a citizen
This girl has shown she doesn't care about South Africa except for her own benefit. Otherwise, she would have withdrawn by now. How can you represent people who are so divided about your eligibility to represent or speak on their behalf? Anything that divides South Africans right 🚮
By the way, you can keep the perception you have about Black South Africans. We don't even care anymore
Yey Rainbow Nation doesn't mean we need the whole world in SA 🌍.... We're Rainbow nation because we different race.....SA is Black, white, indian and colour people....if both parents are from SA
You guys are lying. Born in SA doesn't automatically makes you a citizen
I've been looking for this original clip.
Now the update is out and we are still waiting for the full investigation to conclude but so far, it is suspected that identity fraud may have taken place by Chichis mom.
And that on it's own has further implications, first being our incompetent and corrupt officials that have allowed this and many more others but most important of all, is her child not being able to get the ID number as a south African child.
Be it him or she has for the past 23 years of Chichi having that ID or 14 years if counting since 2010 meant that the child was a ghost in their own country because a identity no. meant to be their lifeline was given to someone else depriving them of their God given rights in this land to education, health and social services that they were not able to get because technically they are illegal in their own country.
Another thing is in our schools need you to have a birth certificate to register and to matriculate you register for your national ID so that government is able to attach your academic record to your ID and be able to trace your school history should such cases happen.
Now could yall please just think of that mother and child who were not able to be "South African" as others are. I'm not using any xeno rhetoric to make my point but if you just as patriotic about Nigeria than you can understand.
I believe the South African government needs to address these issues. Some foreign nationals come to South Africa to obtain papers and ultimately benefit from the country. We should hold our government accountable for this problem, rather than blaming innocent individuals like Chidima. Corruption within the government is the root cause of the issue. South Africa has become a playground for corruption, which affects its integrity. It's possible that even her parents obtained their papers illegally. Many black foreign nationals seek to identify as South African to gain papers and succeed elsewhere, which might lead to the exploitation of the country for their benefit. Indigenous South Africans would likely find this unacceptable and would certainly resist. However, the primary issue remains with the South African government. They need to reform their policies and strengthen enforcement, as the current situation makes South Africa a vulnerable target, and many foreign nationals are quite comfortable here.
True in u.k no such luck kid must live here continuous for 7 yrs then only at 18 gets citizenship. 😂😂😂no popping babies for papers and marriages for papers and the amounts of money you have to pay to start the processes are ridiculously high😂😂. The new home affairs minister must take a page outa the u.k laws and of so many other countries 🎉🎉❤❤
I love you girls you are so gorgeous from SA
We will not be bullied. Miss South Africa is a national flag bearer, a representative of our people to the globe. South Africans have a right to demand to be represented by someone that they resonates with them and their indigenous traditions.
We refuse to be represented by someone who doesn’t resonate with the majority of the people who have fought and struggled for this country.
Eh, I just remembered that white people fought for you. South Africans should get a life
@@nc9922 and what are your views on the current Miss South Africa representing the country?
Point of correction comrade she has won NOTHING get your facts straight 2ndly it’s Rainbow nation for South Africans.
WELL; WE HAVE CONSTITUTIONL LAW IN SOUTH AFRICA SINCE 2013-THERE IS AUTOMATICALLY CITIZEN BECAUSE A PERSON IS BORN IN SA! THANK GOD; IMAGINE THIS ASHAWOPONAPONA REPRESENTING OUR COUNTRY?
SOUTH AFRICA IS NOT ZOOGERIA OK!!
THINGS CHANGED SINCE 2013
These are the lies people hate about Nigerians, why claim she is miss south africa, she have been selected to contest, please don't lie.
"Lies people hate about Nigerians"??? So all of Nigerians are liars???? They might have been mistaken about their information, does that now make all Nigerians liars??
THINGS CHANGED SINCE 2013
You are criminals you are not hated because you workd hard
I loved the conversation,
south africa is not xenophobic from the best of my knowledge as a south african. we are only named xenophobic when we apply the law, for example: let's say an illegal foreigner commit a crime in SA which affect south africans, obviously south africans will demand for such person to be deported but the opposition will claim that south africans are zenophobic forgeting that "firstly" the person came illegal to the country "secondly" the person is contributing to crime which on later stage disadvantage south africans.....
i think the best way to handle the situation is to pay attention to the law and the circumstances. most illegal foreigners are enjoying south africa because they are not causing attention to themselves however there are some who are causing attention by committing crime that cannot be tolarated by the community therefore, we have to act from there.
secondly i would advice that don't compare similar crimes and the consequences, for example: if your child steal your money you will either talk to the child or punish the child in a good manner but if someone who you don't even know commit the same crime you might even call the community to deal with that particular person. so the punishment won't always be the same.
in my community there are lot of "illegal foreigners" but we don't bother them because they are not committing crime but there is also small group which does other things which is not accepted such as fighting each other over fishes to such an extent where they burn in other alive in a house... but it only happened twice around 2017 so if such behavior continues we will have to act as a community because it causes bad image and it also scares us. sometimes we also have to arrange a proper burial of someone we don't even know his relatives.
other than that we are brother and sisters as Africans, help us to stop crime . the issue of illegal foreigners is very troubling because we don't even know if those people left their countries after committing crime or they came here to better their lives.
As for legal foreigners i see no problem will them cause their identity can be verified and they can be traced if needed.
Came back to this channel to give you feedback as you called South African’s xenophobic for standing up for their rights and country. The department of Home Affairs has found that her mother committed fraud obtaining South African documentation, therefore Chidimma Adetshina is not South African. You are very quick to call patriotic citizens xenophobic and spread misinformation and damage for views and clicks. Pathetic.
Nigerians excel in everything accept staying home and fixing their own country and excelling there. The arrogance and entitlement is on another level. I love Nigerians...most of the christian content I listen to is from Nigerian, wrong is wrong shem... Let each country fight for it's own people, just like Botswana and Namibia...they do it 🙅🏾♀️✌🏾
I have no issues with legal citizenship. And if that's the case, No Debate, she qualifies for Miss SA pegeant.
But What about the SA Home Affairs findings that the mother committed fraud and stolen identity to acquire citizenship?
We are one tillTyla win a Grammy award
She should come to contest in Nigeria
Nigerians will not allow her,like they did with Lidia Balugan
Even on Big Brother they were quick to take out the South Africans so that they can remain. Next time we need Mzansi Big Brother
Do it what are u waiting for.
Bloody right wing
Now that the tryth is revealed,i hope you release a new video
Ladies please do your research before calling names. This has nothing to do with beauty, it is an issue of stolen identity.
Can you stop and think what happens to the poor South African child who had her identity stolen by this Chidima. Do you know there’s more adults now who had their ID stolen in the same manner and now they cannot wotk, they cannot get their ID books because the likes of Chidima already owns that ID. I am glad this has come up so that it can be addressed properly by our govt. I also blame South African home affairs because people have been buying ID’s like you buy food at the supermarket. This kind of fraud is the reason why we are here today. Nobody ever cared about what happens to the child who’s identity they have used for a person who does not qualify to be South African. There are people who get their citizenship in a legal way whereas on the other side there are people who take short cuts and our own govt workers within home affairs enable that. They all deserve to be arrested for fraud.
I am waiting to hear another meeting where you ladies will talk to your own people to stop going out and conduct fraud in other countries and then turn around and claim to be victims. The real victims are the kids they have befrauded and stole their ID, these kids can’ get work in their own country, they can’t get their high school results and can’t go to university because everything is linked to this ID that has been stolen. Let us fight for justice for all, not one sided justice please.
You are lying, she didn't recently became Miss South Africa!!!!! She is one of the finalists
Here we go, can we have an update danko
But this is a small thing bafwethu, A family thing. Bekuyitiye nje neighbors. Kindly leave us alone. We will invite you masesihlabe inkomo. Syanithanda niyezwa.🤗 Bye-bye
Masesihlabe inkomo😅..yoh!
@@mazwideamahle4091 Yes😂
Nigerians are different 😂😂😂😂😮😮😮 guys this is one country that none of African countries like to associate with
She is beautiful to participate in her father's country Nigerian
She lied, the mother and father.
"Rivalry between South Africans & Nigerians?"
"Chidima is Miss South Africa"
Before sitting on such tables. Please ensure you have the full details of what you're saying.
Plus It's not "South African passport" but a South African ID*
Liar!! What happened to Balogun you hypocrites
She s not south African. We not stupid
I mean bro exactly
You automatically qualify for South African citizenship if:
you are born in South Africa and at least one of your parents is a South African citizen or a SA permanent residency permit holder
if you are adopted by a South African citizen.
You can apply for South African citizenship by descent or naturalisation.
You can also apply to retain your citizenship before you obtain citizenship of another country. Unless you have been granted retention of citizenship before acquiring citizenship of another country, you will lose your SA citizenship automatically.
You may apply to have your South African citizenship reinstated if you are a former citizen by birth or descent and you have returned to South Africa permanently.
You may renounce your South African citizenship if you intend getting citizenship of another country.
@@Dr_Du-LittleHaving SA Citizenship doesn't make you South African
What about the Lebanese lady ,is she a south African or its just hate for Nigerians
@@Gaelle-mi3hn
Sherry Wang the Chinese girl
Correction: She's a contestant not Miss SA, big difference
They want to be in south Africa through thick and thin
Correction - your opening statement you say she has become Miss SA - thats not true - she entered the Miss SA competition- she did not win the competition- she has since withdrawn from SA competition.