Love the series! One thing that keeps puzzling me is why you are saving money on inferior trains when you are swimming in money, just buy the best you can and get SPEEED + traction always (even when its technically not needed)!
Squirrel's approach to the game is he'll throw money at stuff like terraforming but anything with a recurring cost (like trains) have to cost as little as possible. He's trying to use the minimum that'll do what he wants to optimize profits. Just buying the most expensive stuff seems to run counter to how he plays. The thing is, though, when you reach the stage he's in, it honestly no longer matters. At the start of a new save, it matters hugely because it's very easy to end up in the negative until you have 5 or 6 profitable lines running. His mindset just never changes from the early game. But Squirrel wouldn't be Squirrel if he just threw money at everything in game, so I'm okay with it.
Methinks it might be time for Squirrel to upgrade those steam rail services. Remember, in the UK, steam was to be phased out from 1975 IIRC, it's now 1978 game time, so they'd best be retired IMO.
Glad i'm not the only one watching having to breate into a paper bag to cope with the anxiety of watching somebody playa video game "wrong" lol. Watching squirrel mess around with these 6 / 8 track stations with every track going to different dead end is soooo frustrating. Next we need to talk about squirrels aversions to straight lines and right angles. The state of mitcheldean at 31.55 had me needing medication !
Not saying you're wrong - just suggesting that part of the reason S does these sorts of videos is to cover all the options and show their consequences. A sort of tutorial. My 2 cents.
+1! His aversion to using any level crossings gives me so much pain. Thinking that trains will get delayed by traffic is pure insanity. Same goes for his incredibly inefficient use of transfer stations. Its obvious that he doesn't pay attention to infrastructure IRL
This series really helped me grasp a lot of the supply/demand and industry leveling that the game itself really didn't explain for me, I also had no idea you could slow the date speed down. Most recent game I'm in 1940 with about 4 billion. Also loving smaller maps now and digging through some of the mods you're using.
It annoys me immensely that Squirrel makes train lines going from one city to another and then a seperate line to go from that city to the next. I'd go from Sandhurst - Bradford - Leigh - Whateverthatotheroneis and then just put half a dozen trains on there
I always assumed that everyone knew that in transport fever 2 the more transport options people have to more cities the bigger and quicker they grow and the more private transport is removed from the streets because some people want quick high cost transport and some want low cost slower transport so basically it is all about giving people options. Apparently Mr Squirrel does not.
Maybe in others games it is more efficient to do the way he is doing. But not in this one. In tf2 connecting multiple cities on the same line means it will move waaaaay more people. The passengers in this game DO switch lines, but they definitely DO NOT like it.
@@mukherjeesuniversum2665 it can make a profit with 2 cities if they are really big, very far away and the transport is really fast. But yes, in most "normal" situations it needs 3 cities to make good money.
Point to point is more better because, you can scale trains as needed. intermediate stops are in long run nightmare, when you have 200 people waiting, when trains run full from end to end
@@Vanha21 I definitely know the challenges with long lines and more than one stop very well but in my opinion more stops than only one will grow cities more than only point to point.
14:41 Hearing lime green referred to as lovely makes me happy. ^_^ Mainly cos my primary OC has a less pale version of that colour as her main colour. Technically she's all white but her lime clothes dominate her colours.
I still don't really understand why squirrel isn't interconnecting more than two cities. Especially just for sharing the depos. Aren't they having a reoccurring cost?
Yeh it looks kinda weird having loads of shuttle services, I think it would be better to have a more realistic train that goes through many cities across the whole map
Yeah it looks strange. I always have lines that goes through 4 cities, and then a very high speed express line that only goes to the cities on both ends.
Your busses stations at Romsey are all overloaded lol. Edit: others cities too. Your trains will not move a lot of people because they are all stuck on the bus stops and cannot go to the trains stations.
Glad to see that im not the only one asking , why he is not connecting all 3 cities with one train line. Sometimes i feel like Squierl (no offence) overcomplicates things.
You know, for Bradford, you can use the innermost two tracks for the train towards Leigh and the outermost tracks for the Sandhurst and Bradford lines, for aesthetic purposes. Other than that, this is probably one of my most anticipated series in this channel other than some old series that you discontinued. And even though some of the decisions you make is, say, questionable, this is your game after all and we're only watching it and giving some inputs if necesarry. Either way, i love this series and thankfully it ain't ending for quite some time.
Why are you connecting them as Shuttles? Have you ever known a train line that you had to change trains every station?! Would make more sense to connect them all on one route and loop it back the other way! Just ridiculous to do it as shuttles.
Imo the leigh intercity bus route going through the city is clogged up by traffic. Better to waypoint them to go around leigh to the bus station. Longer but quicker way for sure.
That was a cool series - well documented - binge watched 14 episodes in one evening and another 3 now. Love the graphics and add-ons, I played the old old transport game that involved buying and selling shares also. Bit dear at the mo' but put on my wish list. I do like the way you carve out the countryside as it give more idea of elevation, but every time you smooth it out your next comment is always "Oh I didn't know that was so steep" :D I think the game is designed to expose more elevation or terrain the more you play. Just my thoughts.
Hey @Squirrel with the CLe 2/4 and the RABDe 12/12 those are multi car units. You should be able to add more then 1 of them to a train. With the RABEDe's you could get everything you need as well as move 114 PAX with only 2 units per train.
1.you can better do a full loop in the line manager so you can use both platforms. 2. One depot on this line is more than enough, there is no need to do a depot per line.
This series is really fun to watch, as ive said before, please try Tropical mega map with minimum landmass, low cites and medium industry, there you have a great challange but nice earnings when sucsess
@Squirrel, why are you using points before and after stations (e.g. Bradford-on-Avon) to link in parallel tracks? Wouldn't it be easier (and more comfortable to the pax) to parallel it through?
If you're referring to the "diamonds" he places at stations then it's so the trains can switch tracks for their return journey. If their's only one train on the track then it's no needed. If there's multiple then you need to arriving trains to switch to the other track when heading back, so that they can clear the rail for the next train coming to that station on that route.
While you've REACHED 1 billion dollars over time; i wouldn't consider the objective complete until your EARNINGS reach 1 billion. A good thing that said earnings are tracked right beside your money.
Hey Squirrel! What is the advantage of you making another line on a through station as opposed to continuing the existing line and connect it to the new station established? My only guess why you are doing separate lines is transport frequency?
Hay Squirrel the only complaint from me is you don't make 3-4 hr long videos on this every day. I need that to fill my evenings so i hope you will work on that. lol thanks for the great videos and as always i can't wait for the next one!!!
I'm seeing a lot of comments about why squirrel didn't just create a train route that had more than 2 stops. Now alright that would be great to see, I think the reason squirrel did this was to keep the waiting time down between all the different train services, so citizens didn't have to wait for ages for the next train.
I love your series. Thanks! I'm still learning a lot even though I've been playing the game for a long time. Today I would like to give you a little hint. Along the way from Romsey to Bradford the route passes Leigh. Why you don't build a second train station just outside Leigh that could be connected by a bus route?
I have 2 ideas for how you can do Leigh Romsey. 1. start by going right after leaving the station bridge or tunnel over the freight and connect or 2. make Mitcheldean Romsey and do what they do in for example Brighton and avoid the station of Mitcheldean and go straight onto Romsey with the tracks for Mitcheldean Romsey (can also be done via Bradford)
Wouldn’t it have been better to tunnel the train out of Romsey? I would think going downhill would help the train accelerate out of station, and a little uphill on the way in to station would help slow down, or does the game not work that way?
It bugs me that the trains' passenger-per-second loading speed is fixed no matter how many passenger cars you have. So doubling the number of cars doubles how long it takes a full train to empty and re-fill, when really a train of any number of cars shouldn't take much longer than a single car (unless the train is longer than the station).
I understand starting from 1850 if you really want to use horses, but is that better to start closer to the modern times, like the 1950s or 70s? If it was me I would stop using Red Arrow railbus and started to use Mirage with 50-60 pax. It's expensive but who actually wants to start the line with 20 pax per train. You are basically driving a single-train carriage. American vehicles is like completely different in a way
In my alternate playthrough which runs alongside Paul's one I have a line that does what a lot of you describe and it loses an absolute shitload of money. Why? Because your trains become clogged with passengers that want to go from town A to town B, and from town B to town C, from town A to town C and so on and so forth with as many towns as you have on the line, and that is for both directions. So what you say, well what it means is you never get to unload a full train at each stop, you may load 57 peasants at town A, unload 7 peasants at town B but town B has 30 peasants that want to got to town C but they can't get on because the capacity just isn't there. So just add more trains then? Nope, because not every town on the line will have enough peasants to fill a train, you will end up with trains that are either clogged up with through passengers or near empty, either way you end up losing money. Paul's way is what I will be doing, a train service between just two cities, but with the ability to connect via another line to other cities thus fulfilling the peasants desire to travel to multiple destinations. I have found that what works in the real world just doesn't work here, in essence as far as Pax is concerned I treat each city as having one direct connection to another city, in simple terms all my Pax lines will change to "town A to town B" with "town B to town C" as a connection via a separate line the peasants will still be able to get from town A to town C. Much easier to manage the size and frequency of trains on each line, rather than trying cater to vastly differing requirements on a multiple town line.
Squirrel logic: Putting a junction to connect a line to a depot? ❌ Build a whole new depot ✅ Tunnel a passenger line? ❌ Tunnel/elevate other 3453547 lines ✅ Having a proper train? ❌ Having a shitty train to save money he has ✅✨
You could build a subway between Leigh and Romsay, there are mods that have subway stations, would be nice to have then right in the middle of the cities!
Imagine if you could put you map, once you have finished with it, into another game, so you can drive around on it! Free driving a car around this map would be great!
Thank god he did the train line as a whole bridge... I thought man’s gonna make it awkward and have 2 bridges- if he did imma shout my soul out to make it a singular bridge going across the whole line lol-
"Sandhurst is completely isolated from the rest of the world" Yeah sounds about right lol
Love the series!
One thing that keeps puzzling me is why you are saving money on inferior trains when you are swimming in money, just buy the best you can and get SPEEED + traction always (even when its technically not needed)!
Ikr
Also, why not upgrade to the widest road possible?
Squirrel's approach to the game is he'll throw money at stuff like terraforming but anything with a recurring cost (like trains) have to cost as little as possible. He's trying to use the minimum that'll do what he wants to optimize profits. Just buying the most expensive stuff seems to run counter to how he plays. The thing is, though, when you reach the stage he's in, it honestly no longer matters. At the start of a new save, it matters hugely because it's very easy to end up in the negative until you have 5 or 6 profitable lines running. His mindset just never changes from the early game. But Squirrel wouldn't be Squirrel if he just threw money at everything in game, so I'm okay with it.
Methinks it might be time for Squirrel to upgrade those steam rail services. Remember, in the UK, steam was to be phased out from 1975 IIRC, it's now 1978 game time, so they'd best be retired IMO.
-Buys 18 million dollar train.
-Paints the whole thing bright pink.
It looks good, it's slay
Glad i'm not the only one watching having to breate into a paper bag to cope with the anxiety of watching somebody playa video game "wrong" lol. Watching squirrel mess around with these 6 / 8 track stations with every track going to different dead end is soooo frustrating. Next we need to talk about squirrels aversions to straight lines and right angles. The state of mitcheldean at 31.55 had me needing medication !
Not saying you're wrong - just suggesting that part of the reason S does these sorts of videos is to cover all the options and show their consequences. A sort of tutorial. My 2 cents.
+1! His aversion to using any level crossings gives me so much pain. Thinking that trains will get delayed by traffic is pure insanity. Same goes for his incredibly inefficient use of transfer stations. Its obvious that he doesn't pay attention to infrastructure IRL
SAME
This series really helped me grasp a lot of the supply/demand and industry leveling that the game itself really didn't explain for me, I also had no idea you could slow the date speed down. Most recent game I'm in 1940 with about 4 billion. Also loving smaller maps now and digging through some of the mods you're using.
It annoys me immensely that Squirrel makes train lines going from one city to another and then a seperate line to go from that city to the next. I'd go from Sandhurst - Bradford - Leigh - Whateverthatotheroneis and then just put half a dozen trains on there
I always assumed that everyone knew that in transport fever 2 the more transport options people have to more cities the bigger and quicker they grow and the more private transport is removed from the streets because some people want quick high cost transport and some want low cost slower transport so basically it is all about giving people options. Apparently Mr Squirrel does not.
Maybe in others games it is more efficient to do the way he is doing. But not in this one. In tf2 connecting multiple cities on the same line means it will move waaaaay more people. The passengers in this game DO switch lines, but they definitely DO NOT like it.
Yeah it's cringing me hard.
@@lkslokinhow Atleast 3 cities need to be connected in order to generate profit.
@@mukherjeesuniversum2665 it can make a profit with 2 cities if they are really big, very far away and the transport is really fast.
But yes, in most "normal" situations it needs 3 cities to make good money.
But why only point to point with the trains? Cities will grow even more if you create long lines with many stops.
Point to point is more better because, you can scale trains as needed. intermediate stops are in long run nightmare, when you have 200 people waiting, when trains run full from end to end
@@Vanha21 I definitely know the challenges with long lines and more than one stop very well but in my opinion more stops than only one will grow cities more than only point to point.
Another thing, you cold connect these cities by the river with rovercrafts, they just need small ports and are crazy fast!
14:41 Hearing lime green referred to as lovely makes me happy. ^_^
Mainly cos my primary OC has a less pale version of that colour as her main colour.
Technically she's all white but her lime clothes dominate her colours.
I still don't really understand why squirrel isn't interconnecting more than two cities. Especially just for sharing the depos. Aren't they having a reoccurring cost?
he is swimming in money, I don't think he cares about $20000 if he has a billion in the bank
Yeh it looks kinda weird having loads of shuttle services, I think it would be better to have a more realistic train that goes through many cities across the whole map
Yeah it looks strange. I always have lines that goes through 4 cities, and then a very high speed express line that only goes to the cities on both ends.
@@lkslokinhow yeh that makes sense but these shuttles I don't understand
A depot cann handle the whole map as long as there is a connection.
He actually passed 1 billion I. This video and we’re not even halfway through the series 🤣🤣
21:26 - Now that got me laughing 😂 😂.
Loving the series so fare dude :)
Squirrel: "Where's Bradford, where's Bradford" Also Squirrel: *Bradford right in front of him*
Your busses stations at Romsey are all overloaded lol.
Edit: others cities too. Your trains will not move a lot of people because they are all stuck on the bus stops and cannot go to the trains stations.
Glad to see that im not the only one asking , why he is not connecting all 3 cities with one train line. Sometimes i feel like Squierl (no offence) overcomplicates things.
You know, for Bradford, you can use the innermost two tracks for the train towards Leigh and the outermost tracks for the Sandhurst and Bradford lines, for aesthetic purposes.
Other than that, this is probably one of my most anticipated series in this channel other than some old series that you discontinued. And even though some of the decisions you make is, say, questionable, this is your game after all and we're only watching it and giving some inputs if necesarry. Either way, i love this series and thankfully it ain't ending for quite some time.
I was literally shouting at the screen when he said "I'm out of tracks" in Bradford :D
Why are you connecting them as Shuttles? Have you ever known a train line that you had to change trains every station?! Would make more sense to connect them all on one route and loop it back the other way! Just ridiculous to do it as shuttles.
Does game works well with long, many station, lines?
@@ymeshulin yup longer passenger line means more moneyyy
There is also the thing that trains potentially don't meet their speed limits.
God, are you allergic to thru-service sir? Great series tho. Edit: All hail the People's Republic of Sandhurst!
Imo the leigh intercity bus route going through the city is clogged up by traffic. Better to waypoint them to go around leigh to the bus station. Longer but quicker way for sure.
That was a cool series - well documented - binge watched 14 episodes in one evening and another 3 now. Love the graphics and add-ons, I played the old old transport game that involved buying and selling shares also. Bit dear at the mo' but put on my wish list. I do like the way you carve out the countryside as it give more idea of elevation, but every time you smooth it out your next comment is always "Oh I didn't know that was so steep" :D I think the game is designed to expose more elevation or terrain the more you play. Just my thoughts.
Hey @Squirrel with the CLe 2/4 and the RABDe 12/12 those are multi car units. You should be able to add more then 1 of them to a train. With the RABEDe's you could get everything you need as well as move 114 PAX with only 2 units per train.
You should make pax lines with more than 2 cites
Hi Paul, you are missing all the train signals in the line of fuel between Romsey and Mitcheldean
I’m addicted to this series!
Watching the series for the second time. Amazing content.
I just want to say this series is so great and informative so thank you for giving such great content
Im so glad the series isnt ending loving the play through awesome content decided to get the game because of how you manage your cities 😀😀
could you do an episode looking at all the lines and modernizing them?
That's the next episode lol
@@ollipehkonen395 made this comment the day it came out mate
1.you can better do a full loop in the line manager so you can use both platforms. 2. One depot on this line is more than enough, there is no need to do a depot per line.
This series is really fun to watch, as ive said before, please try Tropical mega map with minimum landmass, low cites and medium industry, there you have a great challange but nice earnings when sucsess
i don’t know why but i really love watching you do the pax lines
@Squirrel, why are you using points before and after stations (e.g. Bradford-on-Avon) to link in parallel tracks? Wouldn't it be easier (and more comfortable to the pax) to parallel it through?
If you're referring to the "diamonds" he places at stations then it's so the trains can switch tracks for their return journey. If their's only one train on the track then it's no needed. If there's multiple then you need to arriving trains to switch to the other track when heading back, so that they can clear the rail for the next train coming to that station on that route.
Imagine if he just cut the video off once he reach a billion cuz he completed his goal
i was screaming at my computer when squirrel did not use the mirage for the bradford- Leigh line
“You gonna get on my train Bebe!” Quote of the day
While you've REACHED 1 billion dollars over time; i wouldn't consider the objective complete until your EARNINGS reach 1 billion. A good thing that said earnings are tracked right beside your money.
24:26 "Mitcheldead" 🤣
Hey Squirrel! What is the advantage of you making another line on a through station as opposed to continuing the existing line and connect it to the new station established? My only guess why you are doing separate lines is transport frequency?
at 33:11 Squirrel gets 1 Billion!
Stellar series
multiple units can have more then one of them per train
Pax Vobiscum.
I'm cringing with the shuttle train service. Make some long Pax routes Mr. Squirrel.
@6:48 - train looks like it is a missing texture error
Great video mate
I do [RP] and [RC] to differentiate between passengers and cargo train lines.
I love your series and I cannot wait to see the next episode
Hay Squirrel the only complaint from me is you don't make 3-4 hr long videos on this every day. I need that to fill my evenings so i hope you will work on that. lol thanks for the great videos and as always i can't wait for the next one!!!
@33:11 - Congrats on getting 1 Billion in revenue.
Cheers,
I'm seeing a lot of comments about why squirrel didn't just create a train route that had more than 2 stops.
Now alright that would be great to see, I think the reason squirrel did this was to keep the waiting time down between all the different train services, so citizens didn't have to wait for ages for the next train.
I think some comments are suggesting because the line would be longer you can run more trains on it
Thanks for the great video! Thank you for sharing! Wishing you a great weekend! Greetings from Norway!
Another great one !
why do you always tunnel roads when you can elevate them and elevated section from Bradford-Romesy looks bizarre
Would you recommend using motorways or is it just better to build large normal roads?
Can you not tunnel the train line instead of the roads?
Great stuff.
I love your series. Thanks! I'm still learning a lot even though I've been playing the game for a long time.
Today I would like to give you a little hint. Along the way from Romsey to Bradford the route passes Leigh. Why you don't build a second train station just outside Leigh that could be connected by a bus route?
Not going to lie, I hate massive bridges. I personally prefer the bridge only going over roads and other lines, and then having embankments inbetween
Love the content! keep it coming
Can you show us how trams work? Is it only for within the city or can you do between cities like Leigh and Romsey
They should add workers for the industries so that we have to provide access to them.
Congratulations on a billion dollars
I have 2 ideas for how you can do Leigh Romsey.
1. start by going right after leaving the station bridge or tunnel over the freight and connect or
2. make Mitcheldean Romsey and do what they do in for example Brighton and avoid the station of Mitcheldean and go straight onto Romsey with the tracks for Mitcheldean Romsey (can also be done via Bradford)
Thanks squirrel for another great video, we love your series so far, keep it up my friend
29:09 whi everyone always boycot the Mirage,I mean it's such an amazing unit😊
Love this game😃
1975 wonder if Paul still has stream trains?
33:11 1 billion dollars!
Multi-coloured liveries would be nice, that would give more realism and give more choice of colours
You should make a ferry ride from Mitcheldean to Sandhurst
Enjoying the series but can we get an episode of you upgrading your older lines like your first black gold line?
Wouldn’t it have been better to tunnel the train out of Romsey? I would think going downhill would help the train accelerate out of station, and a little uphill on the way in to station would help slow down, or does the game not work that way?
After this series is finished, if be interested to see the other map types with the same goals
It bugs me that the trains' passenger-per-second loading speed is fixed no matter how many passenger cars you have. So doubling the number of cars doubles how long it takes a full train to empty and re-fill, when really a train of any number of cars shouldn't take much longer than a single car (unless the train is longer than the station).
i guess its because of the cars dont need a single queue of pax to load, every car has few doors so it wont affect the loading speed in the end
Since getting a passenger train line between Leigh and Ramsey is difficult, would an airline be easier? Especially when you get commuter jets.
I understand starting from 1850 if you really want to use horses, but is that better to start closer to the modern times, like the 1950s or 70s? If it was me I would stop using Red Arrow railbus and started to use Mirage with 50-60 pax. It's expensive but who actually wants to start the line with 20 pax per train. You are basically driving a single-train carriage. American vehicles is like completely different in a way
YEy! Ty for another great video!
I cringed when you coloured the einhitswagen 2, i used to see them every day
I don't even personally like to colour any my vehicles at all. And the game teach this in the scenario that you should not do that.
Some colours look nice others well don't.
In my alternate playthrough which runs alongside Paul's one I have a line that does what a lot of you describe and it loses an absolute shitload of money. Why? Because your trains become clogged with passengers that want to go from town A to town B, and from town B to town C, from town A to town C and so on and so forth with as many towns as you have on the line, and that is for both directions.
So what you say, well what it means is you never get to unload a full train at each stop, you may load 57 peasants at town A, unload 7 peasants at town B but town B has 30 peasants that want to got to town C but they can't get on because the capacity just isn't there. So just add more trains then? Nope, because not every town on the line will have enough peasants to fill a train, you will end up with trains that are either clogged up with through passengers or near empty, either way you end up losing money.
Paul's way is what I will be doing, a train service between just two cities, but with the ability to connect via another line to other cities thus fulfilling the peasants desire to travel to multiple destinations.
I have found that what works in the real world just doesn't work here, in essence as far as Pax is concerned I treat each city as having one direct connection to another city, in simple terms all my Pax lines will change to "town A to town B" with "town B to town C" as a connection via a separate line the peasants will still be able to get from town A to town C. Much easier to manage the size and frequency of trains on each line, rather than trying cater to vastly differing requirements on a multiple town line.
that's why you also have direct services for the popular journeys
Squirrel logic:
Putting a junction to connect a line to a depot? ❌
Build a whole new depot ✅
Tunnel a passenger line? ❌
Tunnel/elevate other 3453547 lines ✅
Having a proper train? ❌
Having a shitty train to save money he has ✅✨
You could build a subway between Leigh and Romsay, there are mods that have subway stations, would be nice to have then right in the middle of the cities!
Dude just connect Leigh and romsy with a train, it's doable and wouldn't be that hard, couple tunnels and you'll be sweet!
Finally. 33:13
wooow, this whole map was damn empty and now look at this, so much stuff there. pl post some pic of the map when we started and where we are now.
33:10 he hit 1b
Is there any way you can play Job Simulator again?
Imagine if you could put you map, once you have finished with it, into another game, so you can drive around on it!
Free driving a car around this map would be great!
Road to 10Billion! 😁😁
Thank god he did the train line as a whole bridge...
I thought man’s gonna make it awkward and have 2 bridges- if he did imma shout my soul out to make it a singular bridge going across the whole line lol-
33:11 one bilion hhhhhhh
upgrade the road between Micheldean and
Leigh and put bus network.
25:00 but I am still alive!?
That Leigh-Romsey situation looks perfect for an intercity tram system.
the plane goes right over bradford.
oh you have a billion now
why does a train make a chu chu sound when u create a game? Its just kinda weird
Why so many train depots...?
What does PAX exactly mean? Anyone know.
PAX = passengers
$1B made. I think you should aim for $10B. Its definitely doable.