Personally I think Frank Welker’s work voice acting as Megatron on transformers prime may have also proved himself to Micheal Bay just how well his voice acting can suit a modern iteration of Megatron. If you listen to Tfp Megatron compared to TlK megatron they sound so much alike. It’s just a theory I have
It really sucks that Mark Ryan couldn't continue his role as Bumblebee. He had the perfect voice tone for an older, more mature Bumblebee who has seen war firsthand. But at least he was able to still be on the franchise as Lockdown and Jetfire, so thats nice.
I just hope they keep the cast more consistent and show more consideration to professional voice actors in the sequels to Rise of the Beasts. Say whatever you like about the Bay films, at least they gave good parts to the voice actors and not just the celebs. For example: Jess Harnell as Ironhide, Charlie Adler as Starscream, Tom Kenny as Wheelie, John DiMaggio as Crosshairs and Frank Welker as Galvatron and TLK Megatron.
That's one thing I like about Bayformers. We got real voice actors, not celebrities. After all, Frank Welker didn't get the part of Megatron not because he wasn't famous, but because Bay just didn't think the voice fit.
Michael Bay doesn’t have a good sense of talent. He doesn’t even care about the franchise or the fans. Hollywood in general doesn’t care about the fans or the franchises that they undertake. They just want to put their own spin on the story and disregard the original lore of the franchises that they are working on. For what Bay did both to Cullen and Welker is proof that the actors of the animation world don’t get the respect that they deserve. On screen actors most of the time don’t make good voice actors unless they are doing a lot of both mediums. And it’s obvious that these movies could have been so much better if given to the proper people who do their research or are truthfully knowledgeable about what they are working on. Transformers unfortunately have not gotten the correct people working on the films except for Cullen and Welker. The directors who have worked on this franchise claim one thing and don’t even tell the truth. It is obvious to me that none of these directors did their homework about this franchise.
Im genuinely gonna miss the Bayverse. Never really got to experience G1 so obviously I’m biased, but the designs, military scenes imo were to die for. Stories could’ve been better, but I’m still glad it exists.
Another most likely reason why Michael Bay choosed Frank Welker to voice Megatron in the ride, aoe and tlk was due to his Amazing performance as Megatron in Transformers prime from 2010 to 2013.
Honestly, Michael Bay's comment regarding Hugo Weaving's complaints is pretty reasonable and justified, at least in my opinion. Correct me if I am wrong, but from the sound of it, Hugo Weaving was not interested in the role yet stuck around for the money and still complained.
I guess, but tbh Hugo wasn't dissing the role or the film, he was just saying he didn't feel connected to the role because he never got the script, wasn't involved in the process, had never seen Megatron's design or the set and didn't really work with any of the crew besides a short Skype call with Bay. He explicitly says that it's meaningless to him specifically because he's got no personal connection. His situation is just marginally better than Peter Cullen's in Bumblebee. He's a legendary actor who got the role of a main character and then to cut the costs they just booked the guy for a two hour session, don't really work with him and tell him to smile for the premiere Also Bay is being a bit of a hypocrite here because he's complaining on his fucking public website (not even normal social Media, a fucking website) that Hugo mentioned that he didn't care for a side gig he did while in the middle of an interview. Hugo wasn't being some high and mighty asshole doing a rant about cinematography he was just honestly answering a question and saying "yeah don't care, did it for the quick cash". So MB's criticism is just innacurate both in regards to the circumstances and meaning of Hugo's comments. Also using argument of "money" while he has over 20 times Hugo's net worth, is kinda not fair. (That's a difference between having an average salary in the US and making 6 figures) Let me show you the same situation in a more normal environment. An executive in a company threw a fit because they saw a contractor complaining about a boring job on Twitter. Yeah it might makes sense to never hireml them again due to company image they somehow disrespected. But what Bay did is later using the company's account to vent in a semi unrelated tangent that looks like this: "Employees should focus and shut up, be grateful because most of the population of the world is poor, but no, they want fulfillment and waste time on complaining on social media while they should be donating money to charity instead, hell if they donate to this hyper specific nieche foundation that I personally find important I will match their donations" You see how that might be hypocritical in more ways than one
@@adamsosna7263 I see your point and you seem to be more versed in the whole situation. So I wonder, has Hugo asked Bay to show him how Megatron would look? Or show him the rest of the cast members? Not waiting for Bay himself to remember, but instead he (Hugo) seeking this information.
@@adamsosna7263 I get what's your point but the whole contractor and executive example sounds too over the top, compared to a what boils down to a pair of really rich guys doing really exclusive rich guy jobs
I kinda disagree. It sounded like he was disappointed in himself for not being connected with the role. That’s why it felt meaningless. And it’s actually problem when the character in question holds a lot of meaning to so many. If he was only after the money, I doubt he would even say that.
I’m hoping they bring back Jess Harnell as Ironhide and Barricade, Charlie Adler as Starscream, Frank Welker as Megatron, Shoxkwave and Soundwave and possibly Darius Mccrary as Jazz in the reboot series.
Frank Welkers’ performance in the 3D Ride sounds very similar to his performance in TFP, and hearing live-action Megatron with that voice actually kinda suits him! Weavings’ takes on Megatron were pretty good too though.
I'll always love Keith David's voice for Barricade from the games. Frank Welker's performance in those were really good, too. James Arnold Taylor as the Fallen is the best. He truly sounds evil compared to Tony Todd. As for Sideswipe, it's hard to say. Both voices sound similar to each other.
Also certain voice actors like Sentinel, Dino (Mirage), and Que (Wheeljack), had to have there voice actors replaced due to there voice actors, like Leonardo Nimoy how voiced Sentinel, had died after or before the film had even came out
Nimroy died in 2015, so the likely reason why he didn’t voiced Sentinel in the tie in games was because he was too expensive, or unavailable… or maybe he wasn’t supposed to voice Sentinel.
Ill be honest, I enjoy the new Wheeljack quite a bit. I loved how Transformers used to have wildly different takes on familiar characters. From the Unicron trilogy to the japanese stuff to the Bay movies, etc.. Characters that share names but have different designs and personalities.
For me, as much as I like Hugo Weaving’s Megatron, nothing will beat Frank Welker’s classic role as the menacing Decepticon leader. Also hearing that James Arnold Taylor was gonna voice the Fallen caught me by surprised, and after hearing his voice in the ROTF video game, made me kinda sad he didn’t got the role. But then again, Tony Todd did a menacing job with the character.
Early Frank Welker voices for megatron especially in G1? nah its bland. But the moment TF:Prime aired, yea this when frank welker personally peaked continously for me.
Personally, even though I like Tony Todd, I think he should’ve been played by Keith David. And apparently they were able to get him, but from another comment I read, apparently he voiced Barricade in the tie-in games. I think he and JAT should’ve swapped each others’ roles, plus Keith David is more intimidating and commanding than JAT’s Hollywood Impressionisms (which btw, he should win an Emmy for most impressions.)
One thing I love about the rebooted continuity is that it brought back the robotic voices since the Bayverse got rid of them after Transformers (2007), and honestly the robotic voices are so much better than the non-robotic ones.
I feel the opposite. Often when Transformers puts robotic tones over a character's voice, it's annoying or even hard to understand for me (especially some G1 Decepticons, unfortunately including Megatron). Assuming I understand what you're referring to.
TF 2007 did the robotic sounding voice better in my opinion. Heck, I didn't even notice the movie had robotic filters for the Cybertronian casts untill it was mentioned to me.
As a voice actor myself, you should know what the character should sound like and how the character acts. It takes time to choose a proper voice. The reason why voice actors get replaced is either due to some issues with the actor or the actor not having enough time. In my opinion I love all the voice actors both original and replaced ones. Hugo Weaving is one of my top 3 Megatron voice actors alongside Frank Welker and David Kaye. I really love this video.
I never liked the changed especially with megatron because if you’ve watched all the bayverse movies you can tell megatrons voice just gets more gravelly
I love John DiMaggio that he did an amazing job for voicing Nitro Zeus, Onslaught, Leadfoot, Crosshairs, and Stratosphere even Jess Harnell who will always be an OG voice actor for Barricade an IronHide but i hope Barricade make his return in a future transformers movie
Mark Ryan is a great voice actor. I wish he could've voiced bee more. But he did great as Jetfire and Lockdown. I'm FB friends with him. He's a great guy.
as much as i love ryan, i feel dylan is the perfect bee voice. hopefully he comes back in the next movie and have an in universe explanation of how he is able to speak again. awesome video as always theorymus 🔥
If ratchet is brought into the sequel I guess we could assume that he repaired bee’s voice box. And hopefully Dylan O’Brien comes back to voice him since I also really liked his performance as bumblebee
I would love to see Michael Bay's movies redubbed with one voice for each character in all the movies and better dialogue. In addition to giving dialogues to Jolt and Topspin in TF2 and TF3.
Man, I wish I could hear James Arnold Taylor’s full performance as the Fallen. He had such a cool voice in the video game. One theory video I think could be done for the Bee-Verse (that’s what I’m calling the reboot for now) would be why Arcee and especially Wheeljack look and sound different between movies. I have a theory it was probably their way of adapting to Earth. Maybe Arcee was owned by a tough biker chick and Wheeljack was owned by some guy named Pablo.
Tony Todd also voiced Dreadwing in Transformers Prime, and one of the other Primes in the vision Sam had is the same voice actor as Bulkhead from Transformers Prime
I love your channel and I watched the entire fixing transformers playlist and I wanted to ask what happened to Chromia. We don’t see her die and I doubt that the Autobots would have left her to die in operation Firestorm so what happened to her?
In chronological order: "Bumblebee" (2018)* *set in 1987 "Transformers: Rise of the Beasts" (2023)* *set in 1994 "Transformers" (2007) "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" (2009) "Transformers: Dark of the Moon" (2011) "Transformers: Age of Extinction" (2014) "Transformers: The Last Knight" (2017)
❤ I feel for Peter Cullen, he is our real optimus prime, it makes so much more sense why optimus was off now in the film, he needed the freedom to express the true voice cadence and inflections, not wanting to pay him more is not an excuse, his voice is legendary!
1.I honestly think MB not getting Frank because he feel like it wouldn't fit because of how he was portrayed in the cartoon is just disrespectful I don't think telling him to change his voice a bit wouldn't be that bad nor disrespectful. I like both VA for Megatron IMO I can understand Hugo having issues not feeling fulfilled or just being there not knowing what to do, I can also understand a bit why MB feels the way he does but telling him he shouldn't complain is like telling someone to shut up and do your job. 2. I like Jess Harnell's OG Barricade voice way more, TLK sounds like a younger version of Ironhide 3. For bayverse Bee I prefer Erik's voice rather Ryan, even Ryan said it he would've made it sound younger if he knew. But i really like Dylan's voice for reboot Bee way more.
I have to say IF MARK RYAN VOICED BUMBELBEE WITH THE VOICE HE GAVE HIM IN THE TRANSFORMERS ORIGINS MOTION COMICS, PROBABLY MORE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE HIM AS THEIR FAVORITE
You should make a video about the Last Knight supposed to be 3 hours long but it got cut. That is a topic that should be investigated. There are so many deleted scenes that weren’t in the movie and maybe it could have been better.
Yeah listening to these voice differences is crazy tbh. Some voices fit certain characters a lot more than others. For example, Barricade og voice fit him more in my opinion. Great work my dude. It still hurts me to this day how they did Peter so damn dirty. Y'all need to respect this man a lot more. He's been doing this for decades him and Frank are absolute legends. The fact that people treat them like garbage is disgusting.
I mean... It isnt 'people', as in like the fans or production crew even, it is the bigwig studio losers who like destroy established and beloved IPs for fun...
That’s Hollywood for you. Playing the high and mighty attitude and no respect for others. Michael Bay doesn’t care about others, he is a very selfish man. He openly admitted that he doesn’t care about the Transformers franchise, so why would he be given the job to direct a film that he doesn’t even have his heart in? It just doesn’t make any sense. I wish that true old school fans could get as many of the original voice actors together and make an accurate live action adaptation for the old school fans and the new fans to come so that they could see what the movie was supposed to be.
Man, I went to Fan Expo and met James Arnold Taylor for the first time and after meeting him, I forgot to ask him about the Fallen character he was voicing in if he was meant to be in the movie, but oh well. It was nice to meet the guy who voiced some of my childhood favorite characters in some of the series and games.
While Jon Bailey’s impression isn’t perfect, it’s still good, but not to replace Cullen like that. I can only imagine what it was like for Bailey finding out that Cullen didn’t think his impression was good.
Mine cast for Bay characters: Optimus Prime/Nemesis Prime: Peter Cullen Bumblebee: Erik Aadahl Ratchet: Robert Foxworth Ironhide/Barricade: Jess Harnell Jazz: Darrius McCrary Skids/Wheels: Tom Kenny Mudflap/Brains/Frenzy/Mowhack/Squeeks: Reno Wilson Sideswipe: James Remar Jolt: Anthony Anderson Arcee/Chromia/Elita-1: Grey DeLisle Jetfire/Lockdown/Bulldog/Leutenant: Mark Ryan Roadbuster: Ron Bottitta Leadfoot/Sideways/Crosshairs/Nitro Zeus/Onslaught: John DiMaggio Topspin/Berserker: Steven Barr Que:Jamie Alcroft Dino: Dave Wittenberg Hound: John Goodman Drift: Ken Watanabe Hot Rod: Omar Sy Cogman: Jim Carter Sentinel Prime/Shockwave: Corey Burton Megatron/Galvatron/Soundwave: Frank Welker Starscream: Charlie Adler Bonecrusher: Jamie Wood Laserbeak: Keith Sarabajka The Fallen: Tony Todd Demolishor: Kalvin Wimmer Quintessa: Gemma Chan
I learn something new whenever I watched these videos! nice video bro also I kinda prefer Hugo's voice of Megatron to me its an iconic megatron voice for the movies. Also I like how Nitro Zeus kinda sounds like Bender from futurama. And what's funny about ROTB Arcee and Unicron's VA is that they also voiced characters in Dreamwork's Ruby Gillman Teenage Kraken movie, I find it funny its because ROTB and RGTK released in the same month lol.....but both movies ended up making less money because there were too many movies that month
I think that the voice of Starscream's deleted line in Bumblebee must've been Steve Blum, as he already played Wheeljack and played Starscream in Prime and RID 2015.
I wish they use dylan o'brien again for the transformers one origin story bee’s voice sounds good in BBM and it a good idea too bad they’re using the actor for substitute teacher. Don’t get me wrong. He’s a good actor but still it’s wrong on so many levels.
SIDESWIPE: I remember talking to André at TF Nation 2018, and that was the same thing he said to me when I asked him. Also, could hear André was in The Ride 3D LEADFOOT: I actually heard the ‘Leadfoot’ lines spoken by Ratchet in the movie, so I think they reused and deepened his voice, hoping no one would notice BUMBLEBEE: What confuses me about Dylan as Bumblebee, was the film was meant to be a prequel before becoming a reboot, so it doesn’t make sense to me to make the voices so drastically different and say it’s supposed to be the same voice WHEELJACK: I heard SCJ retroactively changed this, saying this is another character also called Wheeljack, similar to MB’s explanation as to why Brawl was called Devastator
You know what intrugies me? The transformers movies are just the prequels and sequels, the first 3 are the prequels, originally hated, but now seen as classics, the newest ones are the sequels, not so favoured right now, but still people like them
I prefer Frank Welker roll to Voiced Megatron again since the original series has ended Theorymus I wish I met Peter Cullen and Frank Welker that's going to be my dream and also you're the best Transformers TH-camr I likes me but I'm going to work on the first video of my channel so keep up the great work
My preferences: *Megatron -* Frank Welker *Sideswipe -* James Remar *The Fallen -* James Arnold Taylor *Nitro Zeus -* John DiMaggio *Barricade -* Jess Harnell _(2007)_ *Leadfoot -* John DiMaggio *Bumblebee -* Dylan O’Brien *Shockwave -* Jon Bailey *Soundwave -* Jon Bailey *Ratchet -* Robert Foxworth *Que / Wheeljack -* Cristo Fernandez _(only because Steve Blum didn’t get a full on role)_ *Arcee -* Liza Koshy _(ditto the Wheeljack point)_ *Dino / Mirage -* Pete Davidson
One of the best decisions Michael Bay made with the movies was casting Agent Smith to voice Megatron. He made a good point though; he didn't regret the role, but he regrets not taking the time to learn the character. On the other hand, Michael Bay made a good point about Hugo Weaving being paid millions of dollars for a job he didn't care about at the time. By contrast, I don't think Frank Welker ever DIDN'T care about the role and having him change his performance of Megatron to be less like the cartoon and more like Hugo Weaving creates a voice that sounds authentic AND menacing. Be honest, you wouldn't be able to take Megatron seriously if he had his silly G1 voice, but hearing him put a menacing tone on the character actually makes Megatron sound legitimately threatening.
I wanted to mention another theroy as to why bay brought Frank Welker back to voice Megs in the the last 2 movies. I think Transformers Prime was another big reason. Frank Welker changed his voice for Megatron significantly for that show and i'm someone on the team saw clips or heard Franks current voice for Megatron.
Liza Koshy replacing Grey Delisle as Arcee never made sense to me. She sounds similar to Grey Delisle. It sounds like they just did it to get zoomers to see the movie.
I personally really like Hugo's Megatron voice. Frank is fantastic in his own right in the live action films but I just LOVE that low growl that Hugo put in there. It sounded so aggressive and sinister and just gave me chills. That "You fail me yet again Starscream. GET THEM" clip is my favourite of all the live action Transformer films.
Given that the cybertronians seem to get more human as the film's continued it makes sense that Hugo weaving would give us more of a monstrous Megatron voice in the beginning and later we would get Frank Walker who would give us a more stereotypical villain voice as we see the Autobots and Decepticons become more human during there time on earth
One voice that always goes under the radar that I think deserves a lot of praise is bumblebee’s voice in the PS2 revenge of the fallen game. It sounds a lot like the one he had in 2007, but it’s very cool like he’s a super spy.
This is the perfect video, but I’ve been looking for or been wondering why did 19:23 leadfoots voice change in age of extinction and now my question has been answered 😊
Megatron: Hugo Weaving. Sideswipe: James Remar. The Fallen: Tony Todd. Nitro Zeus: John DiMaggio. Barricade: TLK Jess Harnell. Leadfoot: John DiMaggio. Bumblebee: Dylan O'Brien. Soundwave: John Bailey. Shochwave David Sobolov. Optimus Prime: Peter Cullen. Arcee: Liza Koshee. Wheeljack: Christopher Fernandez. Mirage: Pete Davidson.
Mark Ryan is my personal favorite voice for Bumblebee. I love that British sounding voice that he did without even knowing. By the way, is there a link that featured Bumblebee in the Transformers Ride? It looks so cool! 22:39
PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON STARSCREMS FIRST Apparent's voice to how it sounded the rest of the movies. In the first transformers movie it sounded scary and tough but the other movie he sounds more wimpy and like a Coward? That's why I watched this video in the first place. And hes not even in the video. @theroymus
Theorymus, what you said at 18:11 is not entirely incorrect; while it is true that Barricade's appearance in DOTM was a late addition, there's actually a piece of evidence that supports this theory: Frank Welker was not credited for voicing Barricade. When a voice actors voices more than one Cybertronian, all the Cybertronians voiced by said actors are credited, and the simple fact Welker wasn't credited for voicing Barricade alongside Soundwave and Shockwave suggests that Barricade wasn't supposed to speak in the film at all, and this happened due to an animation error.
Keegan-Michael Key is going to voice Bumblebee in Transformers One which is an animated prequel movie. Chris Hemsworth will voice Optimus Prime, Brian Tyree Henry will voice Megatron, and Jon Hamm will voice Sentinel Prime in that movie.
I really feel like they did Wheeljack bad in Rise of the Beasts. If they wanted a nerdy scientist, there's plenty of other bots that would've fit the personality they were looking for better. Perceptor, Chromedome, or Rung come to mind that would've fit the nerdy aesthetic much better. Wheeljack has always been more of a brooklyn accent 'i'm walkin' over here!' type of engineer that can crack a bad joke but won't take your shit.
It always bugged me how some voice actors got randomly swapped or dropped between films. Like Mark Ryan voicing Bumblebee in TF, only to be recast in TLK despite voicing some minor characters in the film.
Arcee being my favroite character in the franchise, I vastly prefer Grey Griffin's voice for arcee instead of Liza Koshy. Also Dylan O'Brien's voice for bee is rock soild.
I can try to appreciate Wheeljack's redesign, but man, I'll only see a Latin-accented Urkel Bot. As much of a Einstein ripoff he was, "Q" was slightly better in design. I dunno, maybe it'll grow on me more as time goes on
Personally I think Frank Welker’s work voice acting as Megatron on transformers prime may have also proved himself to Micheal Bay just how well his voice acting can suit a modern iteration of Megatron. If you listen to Tfp Megatron compared to TlK megatron they sound so much alike. It’s just a theory I have
I was thinking that too
He was in the movie games too and he did a good job there too
Indeed but TFP megatron is superior overall he was a complete menace who's intelligence and very powerful
@@Darth-vade123No just no.
2007 Megatron, FOC and WFC Megatron, TLK Megatron, and Animated Megatron are just more menacing than TFP Megatron.
@@sk1zlet more menacing ha what did 2007 megatron do he died
It really sucks that Mark Ryan couldn't continue his role as Bumblebee. He had the perfect voice tone for an older, more mature Bumblebee who has seen war firsthand. But at least he was able to still be on the franchise as Lockdown and Jetfire, so thats nice.
Nice pfp gentleman
His voice as Lockdown was top tier
@@yerriff8115seeing a dude explaining to natural order of the creators be fore your death is cold af
I just hope they keep the cast more consistent and show more consideration to professional voice actors in the sequels to Rise of the Beasts. Say whatever you like about the Bay films, at least they gave good parts to the voice actors and not just the celebs. For example: Jess Harnell as Ironhide, Charlie Adler as Starscream, Tom Kenny as Wheelie, John DiMaggio as Crosshairs and Frank Welker as Galvatron and TLK Megatron.
I think some celebrities did good, like John Goodman as Hound
That's one thing I like about Bayformers. We got real voice actors, not celebrities. After all, Frank Welker didn't get the part of Megatron not because he wasn't famous, but because Bay just didn't think the voice fit.
Michael Bay doesn’t have a good sense of talent. He doesn’t even care about the franchise or the fans. Hollywood in general doesn’t care about the fans or the franchises that they undertake. They just want to put their own spin on the story and disregard the original lore of the franchises that they are working on. For what Bay did both to Cullen and Welker is proof that the actors of the animation world don’t get the respect that they deserve. On screen actors most of the time don’t make good voice actors unless they are doing a lot of both mediums. And it’s obvious that these movies could have been so much better if given to the proper people who do their research or are truthfully knowledgeable about what they are working on. Transformers unfortunately have not gotten the correct people working on the films except for Cullen and Welker. The directors who have worked on this franchise claim one thing and don’t even tell the truth. It is obvious to me that none of these directors did their homework about this franchise.
@@TheGhost-rp3ko and Frank Welker as megatron.
Im genuinely gonna miss the Bayverse. Never really got to experience G1 so obviously I’m biased, but the designs, military scenes imo were to die for. Stories could’ve been better, but I’m still glad it exists.
I agree. The animation, design, action was awesome. Only the overal story made no sense, but alot of other others things was very cool
Always Theorymus making a good theory to put together a complicated franchise
Complicated is an understatement.
I agree with both of you
Spitting factsss
Another most likely reason why Michael Bay choosed Frank Welker to voice Megatron in the ride, aoe and tlk was due to his Amazing performance as Megatron in Transformers prime from 2010 to 2013.
Also Hugo really didn't care for Megatron he just saw it as another paycheck
Indeed and his performance is legendary he brought the best megatron to screens and he was amazing
@@Jazmissionyet he put all his heart and soul in creating a ruthless and barbaric Megatron voice. *“Professionals have standards.”*
Honestly, Michael Bay's comment regarding Hugo Weaving's complaints is pretty reasonable and justified, at least in my opinion. Correct me if I am wrong, but from the sound of it, Hugo Weaving was not interested in the role yet stuck around for the money and still complained.
Yea, that's basically it
I guess, but tbh Hugo wasn't dissing the role or the film, he was just saying he didn't feel connected to the role because he never got the script, wasn't involved in the process, had never seen Megatron's design or the set and didn't really work with any of the crew besides a short Skype call with Bay.
He explicitly says that it's meaningless to him specifically because he's got no personal connection.
His situation is just marginally better than Peter Cullen's in Bumblebee.
He's a legendary actor who got the role of a main character and then to cut the costs they just booked the guy for a two hour session, don't really work with him and tell him to smile for the premiere
Also Bay is being a bit of a hypocrite here because he's complaining on his fucking public website (not even normal social Media, a fucking website) that Hugo mentioned that he didn't care for a side gig he did while in the middle of an interview.
Hugo wasn't being some high and mighty asshole doing a rant about cinematography he was just honestly answering a question and saying "yeah don't care, did it for the quick cash".
So MB's criticism is just innacurate both in regards to the circumstances and meaning of Hugo's comments.
Also using argument of "money" while he has over 20 times Hugo's net worth, is kinda not fair.
(That's a difference between having an average salary in the US and making 6 figures)
Let me show you the same situation in a more normal environment.
An executive in a company threw a fit because they saw a contractor complaining about a boring job on Twitter.
Yeah it might makes sense to never hireml them again due to company image they somehow disrespected.
But what Bay did is later using the company's account to vent in a semi unrelated tangent that looks like this:
"Employees should focus and shut up, be grateful because most of the population of the world is poor, but no, they want fulfillment and waste time on complaining on social media while they should be donating money to charity instead, hell if they donate to this hyper specific nieche foundation that I personally find important I will match their donations"
You see how that might be hypocritical in more ways than one
@@adamsosna7263 I see your point and you seem to be more versed in the whole situation. So I wonder, has Hugo asked Bay to show him how Megatron would look? Or show him the rest of the cast members? Not waiting for Bay himself to remember, but instead he (Hugo) seeking this information.
@@adamsosna7263 I get what's your point but the whole contractor and executive example sounds too over the top, compared to a what boils down to a pair of really rich guys doing really exclusive rich guy jobs
I kinda disagree. It sounded like he was disappointed in himself for not being connected with the role. That’s why it felt meaningless. And it’s actually problem when the character in question holds a lot of meaning to so many. If he was only after the money, I doubt he would even say that.
I always assumed TFP was the reason Frank Welker was brought on to be Megatron in the Live action films lol
It was last of the reason and how could he not be TFP megatron is by far the best version of megatron
I’m hoping they bring back Jess Harnell as Ironhide and Barricade, Charlie Adler as Starscream, Frank Welker as Megatron, Shoxkwave and Soundwave and possibly Darius Mccrary as Jazz in the reboot series.
Just have Steve Blum as Starscream, and we get a full TFP Decepticons reunion.
Honestly I prefer Keith David as Barricade because of the Nintendo DS tie in games.
@@roi-77 I don’t blame you.
Frank Welkers’ performance in the 3D Ride sounds very similar to his performance in TFP, and hearing live-action Megatron with that voice actually kinda suits him! Weavings’ takes on Megatron were pretty good too though.
I'll always love Keith David's voice for Barricade from the games. Frank Welker's performance in those were really good, too.
James Arnold Taylor as the Fallen is the best. He truly sounds evil compared to Tony Todd.
As for Sideswipe, it's hard to say. Both voices sound similar to each other.
Keith David and James Arnold Taylor should’ve swapped roles.
True but at least they kept James voice in all the games .
Ah yes, an alcoholic cat and a corrupt robot police officer are voiced by the same person, makes sense
Also certain voice actors like Sentinel, Dino (Mirage), and Que (Wheeljack), had to have there voice actors replaced due to there voice actors, like Leonardo Nimoy how voiced Sentinel, had died after or before the film had even came out
Nimroy died in 2015, so the likely reason why he didn’t voiced Sentinel in the tie in games was because he was too expensive, or unavailable… or maybe he wasn’t supposed to voice Sentinel.
Ill be honest, I enjoy the new Wheeljack quite a bit. I loved how Transformers used to have wildly different takes on familiar characters. From the Unicron trilogy to the japanese stuff to the Bay movies, etc.. Characters that share names but have different designs and personalities.
For me, as much as I like Hugo Weaving’s Megatron, nothing will beat Frank Welker’s classic role as the menacing Decepticon leader.
Also hearing that James Arnold Taylor was gonna voice the Fallen caught me by surprised, and after hearing his voice in the ROTF video game, made me kinda sad he didn’t got the role.
But then again, Tony Todd did a menacing job with the character.
Early Frank Welker voices for megatron especially in G1? nah its bland.
But the moment TF:Prime aired, yea this when frank welker personally peaked continously for me.
Personally, even though I like Tony Todd, I think he should’ve been played by Keith David. And apparently they were able to get him, but from another comment I read, apparently he voiced Barricade in the tie-in games. I think he and JAT should’ve swapped each others’ roles, plus Keith David is more intimidating and commanding than JAT’s Hollywood Impressionisms (which btw, he should win an Emmy for most impressions.)
One thing I love about the rebooted continuity is that it brought back the robotic voices since the Bayverse got rid of them after Transformers (2007), and honestly the robotic voices are so much better than the non-robotic ones.
they were there for rotf too, but not as much
I feel the opposite. Often when Transformers puts robotic tones over a character's voice, it's annoying or even hard to understand for me (especially some G1 Decepticons, unfortunately including Megatron). Assuming I understand what you're referring to.
@@TristenSarelvun tbh also true i never understood what the fuck G1 soundwave was saying half the time
TF 2007 did the robotic sounding voice better in my opinion. Heck, I didn't even notice the movie had robotic filters for the Cybertronian casts untill it was mentioned to me.
@@AfterthymeGaming I never knew Transformers 2007 had robotic filters until the comment you replied to
As a voice actor myself, you should know what the character should sound like and how the character acts. It takes time to choose a proper voice. The reason why voice actors get replaced is either due to some issues with the actor or the actor not having enough time. In my opinion I love all the voice actors both original and replaced ones. Hugo Weaving is one of my top 3 Megatron voice actors alongside Frank Welker and David Kaye. I really love this video.
I never liked the changed especially with megatron because if you’ve watched all the bayverse movies you can tell megatrons voice just gets more gravelly
I love John DiMaggio that he did an amazing job for voicing Nitro Zeus, Onslaught, Leadfoot, Crosshairs, and Stratosphere even Jess Harnell who will always be an OG voice actor for Barricade an IronHide but i hope Barricade make his return in a future transformers movie
I think I prefer Dylan to Erik, I sure hope that if Bumblebee's voice gets fixed in a future movie they get Dylan to come back
I agree
Voice acting and just acting in general is just one of the biggest pros of the bayfilms. The budget really meant something with this one.
Mark Ryan is a great voice actor. I wish he could've voiced bee more. But he did great as Jetfire and Lockdown. I'm FB friends with him. He's a great guy.
as much as i love ryan, i feel dylan is the perfect bee voice. hopefully he comes back in the next movie and have an in universe explanation of how he is able to speak again. awesome video as always theorymus 🔥
If ratchet is brought into the sequel I guess we could assume that he repaired bee’s voice box. And hopefully Dylan O’Brien comes back to voice him since I also really liked his performance as bumblebee
You make the transformer movie verse better than it already is thank you
Anytime 👍
@@TheorymusIn which version of the Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen did you voice the Fallen in, you didn't say which version.
@@Theorymus I wish the what if I survived videos would come back it has been so long pls I had ideas for said video
What’s up
Tony Todd still did an awesome job as Fallen.
I would love to see Michael Bay's movies redubbed with one voice for each character in all the movies and better dialogue. In addition to giving dialogues to Jolt and Topspin in TF2 and TF3.
Man, I wish I could hear James Arnold Taylor’s full performance as the Fallen. He had such a cool voice in the video game.
One theory video I think could be done for the Bee-Verse (that’s what I’m calling the reboot for now) would be why Arcee and especially Wheeljack look and sound different between movies. I have a theory it was probably their way of adapting to Earth. Maybe Arcee was owned by a tough biker chick and Wheeljack was owned by some guy named Pablo.
"...some guy named Pablo." 🤣
Tony Todd also voiced Dreadwing in Transformers Prime, and one of the other Primes in the vision Sam had is the same voice actor as Bulkhead from Transformers Prime
The Shockwave voice imo, fits the character the best.
I love your channel and I watched the entire fixing transformers playlist and I wanted to ask what happened to Chromia. We don’t see her die and I doubt that the Autobots would have left her to die in operation Firestorm so what happened to her?
Transformers 2007 got me introduced to Hugo. And he's one of my favorite Megatron voice actors.
In chronological order:
"Bumblebee" (2018)*
*set in 1987
"Transformers: Rise of the Beasts" (2023)*
*set in 1994
"Transformers" (2007)
"Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" (2009)
"Transformers: Dark of the Moon" (2011)
"Transformers: Age of Extinction" (2014)
"Transformers: The Last Knight" (2017)
@@jackytran2249 true.
just saying no peter no true optimus * not saying the others are bad just peter is perfect! and equal shoutout to megs himself frank welker! *
Hi theory. How are you?
❤ I feel for Peter Cullen, he is our real optimus prime, it makes so much more sense why optimus was off now in the film, he needed the freedom to express the true voice cadence and inflections, not wanting to pay him more is not an excuse, his voice is legendary!
1.I honestly think MB not getting Frank because he feel like it wouldn't fit because of how he was portrayed in the cartoon is just disrespectful I don't think telling him to change his voice a bit wouldn't be that bad nor disrespectful. I like both VA for Megatron IMO
I can understand Hugo having issues not feeling fulfilled or just being there not knowing what to do, I can also understand a bit why MB feels the way he does but telling him he shouldn't complain is like telling someone to shut up and do your job.
2. I like Jess Harnell's OG Barricade voice way more, TLK sounds like a younger version of Ironhide
3. For bayverse Bee I prefer Erik's voice rather Ryan, even Ryan said it he would've made it sound younger if he knew. But i really like Dylan's voice for reboot Bee way more.
Actually respect the hell outta Bay for calling Hugo Weaving out for complaining about making Millions for an easy 2 hour job.
Hugo's Megatron will always remain my favourite Megatron voice
I think that the reason why they didn’t let Peter voiced Optimus Prime in the bumble bee was maybe they thought Peter would have maybe retired
Wait were you actually the voice of the fallen or was that a joke?!
I wasn't the voice, I was reading Taylor's testimony
I have to say
IF MARK RYAN VOICED BUMBELBEE WITH THE VOICE HE GAVE HIM IN THE TRANSFORMERS ORIGINS MOTION COMICS, PROBABLY MORE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE HIM AS THEIR FAVORITE
Yes
You should make a video about the Last Knight supposed to be 3 hours long but it got cut. That is a topic that should be investigated. There are so many deleted scenes that weren’t in the movie and maybe it could have been better.
You always have one of the best transformers theories
Thanks man 👍
Nice video
Interesting! Also my best guess I that Blum would have voiced Starscream.
Thats what I think
honestly it's a really hard choice. I love Hugo as live action megs but Welker had an absolute killer performance in TFP
Yeah listening to these voice differences is crazy tbh. Some voices fit certain characters a lot more than others. For example, Barricade og voice fit him more in my opinion. Great work my dude.
It still hurts me to this day how they did Peter so damn dirty. Y'all need to respect this man a lot more. He's been doing this for decades him and Frank are absolute legends. The fact that people treat them like garbage is disgusting.
I mean... It isnt 'people', as in like the fans or production crew even, it is the bigwig studio losers who like destroy established and beloved IPs for fun...
That’s Hollywood for you. Playing the high and mighty attitude and no respect for others. Michael Bay doesn’t care about others, he is a very selfish man. He openly admitted that he doesn’t care about the Transformers franchise, so why would he be given the job to direct a film that he doesn’t even have his heart in? It just doesn’t make any sense. I wish that true old school fans could get as many of the original voice actors together and make an accurate live action adaptation for the old school fans and the new fans to come so that they could see what the movie was supposed to be.
Man, I went to Fan Expo and met James Arnold Taylor for the first time and after meeting him, I forgot to ask him about the Fallen character he was voicing in if he was meant to be in the movie, but oh well. It was nice to meet the guy who voiced some of my childhood favorite characters in some of the series and games.
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While Jon Bailey’s impression isn’t perfect, it’s still good, but not to replace Cullen like that. I can only imagine what it was like for Bailey finding out that Cullen didn’t think his impression was good.
This may seem a little random but, I love Rise of the beasts and im so glad Transformers is finally back up on its feet 😄
Mine cast for Bay characters:
Optimus Prime/Nemesis Prime: Peter Cullen
Bumblebee: Erik Aadahl
Ratchet: Robert Foxworth
Ironhide/Barricade: Jess Harnell
Jazz: Darrius McCrary
Skids/Wheels: Tom Kenny
Mudflap/Brains/Frenzy/Mowhack/Squeeks: Reno Wilson
Sideswipe: James Remar
Jolt: Anthony Anderson
Arcee/Chromia/Elita-1: Grey DeLisle
Jetfire/Lockdown/Bulldog/Leutenant: Mark Ryan
Roadbuster: Ron Bottitta
Leadfoot/Sideways/Crosshairs/Nitro Zeus/Onslaught: John DiMaggio
Topspin/Berserker: Steven Barr
Que:Jamie Alcroft
Dino: Dave Wittenberg
Hound: John Goodman
Drift: Ken Watanabe
Hot Rod: Omar Sy
Cogman: Jim Carter
Sentinel Prime/Shockwave: Corey Burton
Megatron/Galvatron/Soundwave: Frank Welker
Starscream: Charlie Adler
Bonecrusher: Jamie Wood
Laserbeak: Keith Sarabajka
The Fallen: Tony Todd
Demolishor: Kalvin Wimmer
Quintessa: Gemma Chan
Sideswipe and Fallen both kind of caught me off guard, great video!
I REALLY APPRECIATE HOW FUN YOU'RE ABLE TO TELL LITTLE DETAILS
I learn something new whenever I watched these videos! nice video bro
also I kinda prefer Hugo's voice of Megatron to me its an iconic megatron voice for the movies. Also I like how Nitro Zeus kinda sounds like Bender from futurama. And what's funny about ROTB Arcee and Unicron's VA is that they also voiced characters in Dreamwork's Ruby Gillman Teenage Kraken movie, I find it funny its because ROTB and RGTK released in the same month lol.....but both movies ended up making less money because there were too many movies that month
Additionally Mark Ryan's Bumblebee voice can be heard in the RotF games since it was changed very late in production.
As well as the DOTM Stealth Force Edition game for the Nintendo Wii U and 3DS.
Awesome video
Thus hearing about the fallens case, I now want a Verison of revenge of the fallen but the fallens voice replaced by obi wan lol
I am upset that Peter Cullen didn't Reprise the role of Ironhide as Well as Optimus Prime
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I think that the voice of Starscream's deleted line in Bumblebee must've been Steve Blum, as he already played Wheeljack and played Starscream in Prime and RID 2015.
I wish they use dylan o'brien again for the transformers one origin story bee’s voice sounds good in BBM and it a good idea too bad they’re using the actor for substitute teacher. Don’t get me wrong. He’s a good actor but still it’s wrong on so many levels.
And that's why it sucks this year for these old actors are getting replaced.
SIDESWIPE: I remember talking to André at TF Nation 2018, and that was the same thing he said to me when I asked him. Also, could hear André was in The Ride 3D
LEADFOOT: I actually heard the ‘Leadfoot’ lines spoken by Ratchet in the movie, so I think they reused and deepened his voice, hoping no one would notice
BUMBLEBEE: What confuses me about Dylan as Bumblebee, was the film was meant to be a prequel before becoming a reboot, so it doesn’t make sense to me to make the voices so drastically different and say it’s supposed to be the same voice
WHEELJACK: I heard SCJ retroactively changed this, saying this is another character also called Wheeljack, similar to MB’s explanation as to why Brawl was called Devastator
I got introduced to James Remarr in Ben 10 alien force, where he voiced Vilgax.
You know what intrugies me?
The transformers movies are just the prequels and sequels, the first 3 are the prequels, originally hated, but now seen as classics, the newest ones are the sequels, not so favoured right now, but still people like them
Love them or hate them?
I may not respect these movies, but I am all grateful to them for introducing Slash (clever girl)
I prefer Frank Welker roll to Voiced Megatron again since the original series has ended Theorymus I wish I met Peter Cullen and Frank Welker that's going to be my dream and also you're the best Transformers TH-camr I likes me but I'm going to work on the first video of my channel so keep up the great work
My preferences:
*Megatron -* Frank Welker
*Sideswipe -* James Remar
*The Fallen -* James Arnold Taylor
*Nitro Zeus -* John DiMaggio
*Barricade -* Jess Harnell _(2007)_
*Leadfoot -* John DiMaggio
*Bumblebee -* Dylan O’Brien
*Shockwave -* Jon Bailey
*Soundwave -* Jon Bailey
*Ratchet -* Robert Foxworth
*Que / Wheeljack -* Cristo Fernandez _(only because Steve Blum didn’t get a full on role)_
*Arcee -* Liza Koshy _(ditto the Wheeljack point)_
*Dino / Mirage -* Pete Davidson
One of the best decisions Michael Bay made with the movies was casting Agent Smith to voice Megatron. He made a good point though; he didn't regret the role, but he regrets not taking the time to learn the character.
On the other hand, Michael Bay made a good point about Hugo Weaving being paid millions of dollars for a job he didn't care about at the time. By contrast, I don't think Frank Welker ever DIDN'T care about the role and having him change his performance of Megatron to be less like the cartoon and more like Hugo Weaving creates a voice that sounds authentic AND menacing.
Be honest, you wouldn't be able to take Megatron seriously if he had his silly G1 voice, but hearing him put a menacing tone on the character actually makes Megatron sound legitimately threatening.
I wanted to mention another theroy as to why bay brought Frank Welker back to voice Megs in the the last 2 movies. I think Transformers Prime was another big reason. Frank Welker changed his voice for Megatron significantly for that show and i'm someone on the team saw clips or heard Franks current voice for Megatron.
Liza Koshy replacing Grey Delisle as Arcee never made sense to me. She sounds similar to Grey Delisle. It sounds like they just did it to get zoomers to see the movie.
I personally really like Hugo's Megatron voice. Frank is fantastic in his own right in the live action films but I just LOVE that low growl that Hugo put in there. It sounded so aggressive and sinister and just gave me chills. That "You fail me yet again Starscream. GET THEM" clip is my favourite of all the live action Transformer films.
Given that the cybertronians seem to get more human as the film's continued it makes sense that Hugo weaving would give us more of a monstrous Megatron voice in the beginning and later we would get Frank Walker who would give us a more stereotypical villain voice as we see the Autobots and Decepticons become more human during there time on earth
One voice that always goes under the radar that I think deserves a lot of praise is bumblebee’s voice in the PS2 revenge of the fallen game. It sounds a lot like the one he had in 2007, but it’s very cool like he’s a super spy.
When i watched revenge of the fallen for the first time i was very young and when the fallen died his face gave me nightmares.
I really disliked wheeljack's design and voice in rise of the beasts. The design and voice in bumblebee was far better to me at least.
Dylan O'Bryan is the best live action Bumblebee voice no cap
Man I knew Hugo didn't like the role but for him to absolutely shred it is a bit heartbreaking ngl.
This is the perfect video, but I’ve been looking for or been wondering why did 19:23 leadfoots voice change in age of extinction and now my question has been answered 😊
I cannot wait for pt2 so I’m shouting out theorymus pls make a pt2
4:19 Bay was dumb enough to say that 1hr 45min is “Brisk”
MPC
Dylan O’Briens bumblebee is great
Megatron: Hugo Weaving. Sideswipe: James Remar. The Fallen: Tony Todd. Nitro Zeus: John DiMaggio. Barricade: TLK Jess Harnell. Leadfoot: John DiMaggio. Bumblebee: Dylan O'Brien. Soundwave: John Bailey. Shochwave David Sobolov. Optimus Prime: Peter Cullen. Arcee: Liza Koshee. Wheeljack: Christopher Fernandez. Mirage: Pete Davidson.
Mark Ryan is my personal favorite voice for Bumblebee. I love that British sounding voice that he did without even knowing. By the way, is there a link that featured Bumblebee in the Transformers Ride? It looks so cool! 22:39
PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON STARSCREMS FIRST Apparent's voice to how it sounded the rest of the movies. In the first transformers movie it sounded scary and tough but the other movie he sounds more wimpy and like a Coward? That's why I watched this video in the first place. And hes not even in the video. @theroymus
Theorymus, what you said at 18:11 is not entirely incorrect; while it is true that Barricade's appearance in DOTM was a late addition, there's actually a piece of evidence that supports this theory: Frank Welker was not credited for voicing Barricade. When a voice actors voices more than one Cybertronian, all the Cybertronians voiced by said actors are credited, and the simple fact Welker wasn't credited for voicing Barricade alongside Soundwave and Shockwave suggests that Barricade wasn't supposed to speak in the film at all, and this happened due to an animation error.
I canda like the 07 - 2011 voice of megatron more it could be because I grew up with it or it's just sounds more robotic and evil
Keegan-Michael Key is going to voice Bumblebee in Transformers One which is an animated prequel movie. Chris Hemsworth will voice Optimus Prime, Brian Tyree Henry will voice Megatron, and Jon Hamm will voice Sentinel Prime in that movie.
I really feel like they did Wheeljack bad in Rise of the Beasts. If they wanted a nerdy scientist, there's plenty of other bots that would've fit the personality they were looking for better. Perceptor, Chromedome, or Rung come to mind that would've fit the nerdy aesthetic much better. Wheeljack has always been more of a brooklyn accent 'i'm walkin' over here!' type of engineer that can crack a bad joke but won't take your shit.
It always bugged me how some voice actors got randomly swapped or dropped between films. Like Mark Ryan voicing Bumblebee in TF, only to be recast in TLK despite voicing some minor characters in the film.
Funny because Transformers Prime was basically Frank Welker flexing his Megatron voice hard.
Arcee being my favroite character in the franchise, I vastly prefer Grey Griffin's voice for arcee instead of Liza Koshy.
Also Dylan O'Brien's voice for bee is rock soild.
I ❤ Dylan OBrain's voice for bumblebee, I only wish he lasted abit longer...... maybe one day he might come back 🤞🤞🤞
I have a feeling Megatron in TFP is what inspired bay to bring welker back to megatron on the big screens
I can try to appreciate Wheeljack's redesign, but man, I'll only see a Latin-accented Urkel Bot. As much of a Einstein ripoff he was, "Q" was slightly better in design. I dunno, maybe it'll grow on me more as time goes on
Theoremus look at scourges claw arm in rotb when he throws bee