Honda Monkey vs Grom - Is one Better?
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- Today we're back with our Honda Monkey and Honda Grom, doing the IN-DEPTH comparison that you guys asked for! We did a previous Honda Grom vs Honda Monkey video and we rode around a lot and had a great time, but in THIS video we're comparing every single aspect of these two awesome bikes to help you decide which one is best for you. This in-depth comparison is going over everything we could think of that you guys might want to know, and highlights every single difference we could find between the 2020 Honda Monkey and the 2020 Honda Grom. So grab your favorite drink, coffee is always a favorite, maybe a nice mocha or something like that, sit back, and enjoy our Honda Monkey vs Honda Grom In-Depth Comparison!
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How to do a wheelie on a Grom. Haha.
I like the vintage look of the Monkey.
Monkey all the way, it just has a certain class about it
Great comparison, thanks for it. I will buy Monkey, not only for its appearance but also for its comfort.
They're brothers from different mothers 😁, the Monkey however is already legendary, I think the Monkey will hold its value better then the Grom.
Now that Honda has introduced the Navi to the US Market, this begs for an update, Monkey vs Grom vs Navi. Honestly I think all three have their place in the market and depending on what I person wants, decides what's best for them.
That's a great idea! We'll look into getting our hands on a Navi and see if we can't do another comparison as soon as the snow melts here in the great white North. In the meantime, we're working on a Honda 600XL Project that should be really cool. Thanks for commenting the suggestion!
Navi is a blast 👍🏻
I love the looks of the monkey but would probably settle for whichever is least expensive
I watched you guys and subscribed! Great review and i watched alot of them. Now i need to binge watch,lol. I waited 3years to get a monkey and finally got 1 this January, the bike is waiting for me,I broke my foot but not on the bike.at least I got a monkey waiting for me. By the way,I am71 and trying to get back to motos.had a honda 400A in my 20s,sweet bike,I loved it.wish they would bring back that automatic
Getting a Monkey, so cool as a city bike for fun especially during summer.
The Monkey seat is much more comfortable to me and it looks way better.
Oh for sure, the Monkey seat is way more comfortable. Reminds us of the big banana seat on our old Schwinn bike from way back in the 70s! And that's a good indicator of the difference between the two, the Monkey is a little more laid back, retro cool, the Grom is a little more high-strung, performance-oriented. Neither is excessive but that's the direction each leans.
The Monkey is more expensive but worth the extra money.
The Monkey has class and is for an adult.
The Grom is more of a toy for younger.
The advantage of the Grom is that it is fitted to carry a pillion but the Monkey doesn't have foot pegs.
extra money.
The Monkey has class and is for an adult.extra money.
The Monkey has class and is for an adult.
Sing it brother!
curious how that mono shock will hold up with the extra weight of a rider. suppose its nice to have the option but idk how well it would work with 125cc
I’m getting a 2022 monkey I like the look of it better
The monkey is classic, for sure! Thank for commenting!
Ironic that the Monkey- w/ a better/fuller seat, twin shocks= DOESN'T have rear foot pegs for a passenger, yet the Grom- an inferior seat/THIN, mono-shock....DOES. Wtf Honda?
Right?! How does the Monkey not have passenger pegs? Aftermarket idea anyone?
They make aftermarket rear footpeg kits, and it is possible to use the grom rearsets on the monkey with washers as spacers
That's great info, thanks for commenting!
Great review guys.
Very helpful.
Thanks so much for commenting Dan!
I want to believe Honda will not come with any stupid ideal of making any changes just to be done! Please Honda leave your hands off of any kind of changes! Vintage is classy, its true!
That Grom looks like a cat showing cat butt. Ride that silly thing through some puddles and then check your back...
One looks like a motorcycle, the other looks like a child's drawing of a motorcycle. Which do you think is which?
I like both, I went with a black 2022 only because I might want to practice wheelies and it’s easier to get stunt gear for the grom.
The new Dax though, that thing is beautiful 😍
What exhaust is mounted on the Grom?
The very first thing that comes to my mind when seeing the Monkey, is that it is an updated big brother to the old Mini Trail 50 from back in the day. I want one!
I think you are wrong on the ABS. Honda has a 1 channel ABS on the Mini Moto bikes, which means they are not working together. It does not affect the rear wheel. It only works on the front wheel.
It wouldn't be the first time we were wrong. We looked it up. It was really hard to find any info and we got a lot of conflicting opinions. Then we pulled out the trusty owners manual and read: "This model equipped with an Anti-lock Brake System (ABS) designed to help prevent the front brake from locking up during hard braking. There is no ABS function to the rear wheel." So you are correct sir! Honda has combined ABS and combined electronic ABS on lots of its higher end bikes, so future Groms and Monkeys may have two channel systems like we thought this one was. Thanks for the commenting, and thanks for saying it nicely lol!
Other than the seat comfort difference and wheels( which both are replaceable), the Grom seems more fun
The Monkey is for sure marketed more towards people who want that retro 70s bike the way they remember it, not the way it actually was. The Grom does seem more versatile. Thanks for commenting!
Monkey is better for resale.
Great vid! I currently have a 2019 Monkey but looking to get a similar year/model Grom so I can interchange as many parts as possible. Want to stick with a 4-speed (like the Monkey) I'm guessing 2021 and older?
We weren’t able to confirm for sure but if we had to bet we’d say you are correct, 2021 and older. We’re still trying to confirm and we’ll update here when we do. Thanks for the question!
I can't get the Monkey becuse occasionaly I will have to pick up my daughter/sun from downtown and since it's a short ride it would be stupid to take the car.
The Grom allows for a passenger for short distances at least.
The new Dax 125 seems the best of both worlds but I think it will be a little more expensive than both so...
You’re a good dad and you’re starting the kids out right with rides on the motorcycle. Soon they’ll need their own bikes so you can ride together! Thanks for commenting!
A question on these: I want to do some light trail riding and I've heard that if over 200 lbs you might have to upgrade shocks to some better Ohlins. Thoughts? (I'm 210 lbs). In addition, your kinda-knobbies on the Grom: based on the fairings/fender, can you actually put even larger tires on the Monkey? It appears to have more room under the fender than the grom (obviously the 12-in. wheel is a limiting factor).
Great video! I'm excited to add a second bike to my roster in the near future!
We are not ignoring your question Lorin, Jeff is out sick at the moment but as soon as he's up and at 'um we'll ask him about the tires and springs and post back here.
@@MotorsandMischief I am 6' and weigh 260 pounds. Would the suspension work for me? And do the dealers normally install stiffer suspension if needed?
I was thinking of either the Monkey or the Trail 125 in a couple of years just as a fun toy. Any comparison video between the Monkey and Trail? The price isn't much different. Not sure why the Monkey costs more than the trail since the trail seems larger and has a rack on it. IDK.
@@Awesome_Force The monkey has some stylistic elements that increase the price point, like the metal chrome fenders for instance. They have different gearboxes as well, although I'm not sure how much that factors into the price. The trail is more of a tool and is more suited for riding off road or on difficult surfaces. The monkey is more of a toy that happens to be so well built that you can use it as a tool lol. You could do the same things with both bikes, but you might have a better time with one or the other depending on the situation. Honestly, it's a toss up.
@@Awesome_Force Ohlins would work with your size, just put in the stiffer springs.
Fun bikes!!
My vote for the Grom...luv the orange and black scheme.
Seeing you have both bikes in the parking lot is an instant like
I'm looking at the 2022 models. The Grom has a 123.9cc engine. And the Monkey has a 124.9cc engine. Not sure if it is a typo but there is a 1cc diff according to the official specs. Weird .
In the interest of production costs, it doesn't make a lot of sense for Honda to have two different 125 engines. The engine for both bikes was redesigned in 2021, and is the same for 2022. Both engines have a 50.0 x 63.1mm (2.0 x 2.5 inches) bore and stroke, so either 1) there is something slightly different about the cylinder heads (which doesn't make a ton of sense but wouldn't be the first time a manufacturer did something that didn't make much sense) or something got rounded up or down in calculations or, as you say, its a misprint. Really interesting question and we'll keep digging to see if we can find some cylinder head differences. Thanks for the question! If anyone knows the answer, comment below!!
The thing that made me buy the grom over the monkey was the fact you can hold on more to the fueltank, this in combination with the riding position.
Good info for viewers trying to decide, thanks for the comment!
I love that the new versions are 5 speeds.
The only difference between the two is aesthetics. Waited for the 2022. Five speed, oil filter. Tossing the exhaust, intake, cam and a remap. Rear shocks and fork oil change
That's pretty much true, but as you saw in the video the seat, seating position and shocks are all different between the two. What you're doing to yours sounds sweet! Thanks for commenting!
My Yamaha Zuma 125 also has similar seat like grom. Gets quite uncomfortable over long distances
That's good info for anyone struggling to decide which one to go with, thank you for the comment!
I think the Grom is more prone to bottom out with only one rear shock.
Thats an interesting question. It has more travel, but it is only one shock.
I modded my Grom w/ a Harley exhaust....and now I can piss people off w/ my exhaust noise- but still get 125mi/gal.+ gas mileage.
As long as you refer to it as "the Hog" then we're right there with you 😂
That’s cool.
Which of the bikes has the more narrow/shorter handlebars
The Grom. The Monkey is 29.6" wide at the bars while the Grom is 28.4" according to Honda. Thanks for the question!
If it falls on my leg, will I be able to get it off? Yup, the bike fell on top of me in my motorcycle safety class and I was in killer pain, unable to get up. I’m pretty strong, too.
So we feel you, and don't feel bad, we have a long history of dropping bikes on ourselves. I once dropped a 400 pound CBR600RR on my leg, in traffic, and couldn't get out. Everyone drove around me. Was super awesome. The 2021 Grom weighs only 227 pounds wet. So you should be totally fine and not have any trouble picking it up. Or at least being able to slide out from under it without issue and then pick it up. Thanks for the comment!
Dayuuuum. Sorry man. I try to always stop. People are not nice. Glad you’re ok. God bless.
I'm 5ft 4ins, weigh 65kg and am complete beginner. I have done typical beginner trick of slamming on brakes and fallen off a couple of bikes. I have done this also on a Grom. Didn't even drop it. I over balanced but could correct it. Hope that helps. PS I don't do this anymore 😊
Which would be better for a beginner to learn how to ride? Want to eventually switch to a rebel
Really they are both extremely similar so either one would be fine. The Grom is a little cheaper than the Monkey. If price isn't that big of a concern, personally, we'd probably say go with the Monkey as it is more similar to the Rebel. We have a Rebel review video if you'd like to check it out: th-cam.com/video/Rf-rnNfzFUE/w-d-xo.html Thanks for the question!
Can start on a rebel 500 no problem
Mike David?
These way more than my YZ 250's? I find that hard to believe
The 2022 Grom starts at $3399, the Monkey starts at $4199 and your YZ 250 starts at $7499.
I think Joseph means weigh more... the YZ 250 is only 227 lbs but is not street legal.
Will it fit in my full sized SUV?
Depends on what you mean by fit. Our Suburban can easily swallow a Grom or Monkey, or honestly both at the same time, if you put them on their sides. But if you want to transport one without having to drain the gas or worry about oil leaking in the back of the SUV, the Grom sits at 40" tall and a Suburban's rear hatch is only 36". We've never tried to fit one standing up so we're not sure if you can roll it in at an angle and then stand it up (the roof is a good 4" higher than the rear hatch opening) or let the air out of the tires or some other trick to get it to fit. But the short answer is it will not just roll in and out standing upright. Thanks for the question!
I wanna Monkey and add a Turbo.
😎
Dooooooo it!!!
Extremely helpful review. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting!
Do they both have same size tires??
The Monkey has slightly taller tires, as its running 120/80-12 Front and 130/80-12 Rear while the Grom is running 120/70-12 Front and 130/70-12 Rear
Also counter steer is when at speed. In parking lots and other slow speed turning,you just turn like you would a bicycle.
Very good clarification, thanks for commenting!
You still counter steer on a push bike, gets your body mass tipping into the turn
Thank you. I was having trouble counter steering in the parking lot. Haha.
which one is better for long trip brother?
The Monkey has a softer seat and a more upright seating position, so for long trips would, between the two, would say the Monkey is probably the better option.
@@MotorsandMischief thanks brother. wish to have but it is over price i think.
They are pretty spendy for sure. Stay tuned to the channel though, we've got some ideas on how to get into a Grom or Monkey for cheaper!
@@MotorsandMischief yeah.