Whenever it’s suggested that women do all that (hair, nails, make up, clothes, surgery) for male attention they are real quick in denying it and saying they do it for themselves or for their “confidence”. But they always use those same things as justification as to why women shouldn’t have to pay on dates or that they have it harder than men in general. Gender roles for thee, but not for me.
@@Dickson_ I just read all of that. Other than 21, It all makes sense to me, 21 is just the exception since I'm not educated on/ have never personally experienced the issue. I hope most of this stuff is just common sense though.
It’s funny because women aren’t saying both of those things, but the ones that say the first one act like the second thing doesn’t happen. Like the first sentence says “WE don’t dress…” but yeah a lot are.
I'm a women and I'm in no part in this!!Lol I had one lunch/"date" with a guy who's now my husband. And let me just say I was in work uniform and he still pay for my lunch 😏 and I paid him back with three babies lol, but yeah it was a back and forth thing we did paying the bill, some women do need to stfu, then they complain how no one wants to take them on a date
LADIES, let me say this once. If you get dressed and look nice when going out. It just means you are an adult that loves themselves. If you need to do that for an incentive, you need to rethink your priorities.
True, but investing in yourself and maintaining an appropriate body weight attracts a certain caliber of men which can then transition into incentives 🤷🏾♀️
I think it's more for confidence reasons but I'm going by my own thoughts, I know most men don't care if you're wearing makeup or not, I couldn't put that on the man when I know it's only me who has a problem with my bare face, that'd be me expecting him to pay because I'm insecure, idk if this is accurate to other women but I know makeup drastically helps my confidence
Agreed. I never pay the first time I meet up with someone. If that first interaction goes well then whoever brings up a date pays. 🤷🏻♂️ or I pay for this date she pays for that date and we go back and forth. I don’t pay just bc they look good🤣 just bc you look good don’t mean men have to give you a hand out👏🏼
Speaking of roles, You would not BELIEVE THE HATE I get when I say I cook, make my husbands plate and take it to him. Or that I LIKE being a housewife & mom. If feminism is about options for women, why are my choices not a good as a woman who chose to be any other thing? I’ve literally been shamed!
Man salute to you. I've always thought I would be a great house wife since boredom and time in the house would actually make me want to do house duties/cook. As a house wife, do you have any hobbies that you do in your spare time?
yea the irony is feminists fought for the choice to work now most have no choice but to work , housewives have more freedom nowdays than those "independent " living paycheck to paycheck feminists
I quit my job as a legal assistant for the federal government to stay home and be fully dedicated to my family. None of my female friends thought it was a good idea but it's been 10 years and I'm still happy about it. Most of them are still single 🤷 "You have to do what others won't to get the things that others don't".
The chemistry you two have, friends, professionals working together, whatever the case. I love it. You guys are great. I’ve never regretted subscribing.
Couldn’t agree more, kinda weird tho seeing as I thought they were the type to not care too much about labels; the whole we’re not friends video confused the hell outta me lmao
@@ForeskinTim lol hey maybe, but maybe they are just bros like that but outside of work rarely ever hangout. Kinda like work friends, you vibe but when your shift is over you just wanna go home and be by yourself.
Woman: "I'm strong, independent, and need no man!" Also woman: "What do you mean we're splitting the check?? I'm an 'attractive' woman! I'm entitled to your money!"
"Guys should pay on the first date because women put in money to look good." "What if a man comes in with a good body, wearing an armani suit rocking a rolex? Will you pay for the date?" "...I'm not paying for the date." I would rather her be honest and say she prefers traditional dating roles instead of that BS she tried to peddle.
She doesn't prefer traditional dating roles. She prefers that men stick to traditional roles while she enjoys the modern role. Heads you lose, tails she wins.
@@jaylen5280 Exactly there’s a lot I could say but to summit up they want you to be traditional while they’re modern they want the benefits of traditionalism until it’s time to wash your plate or prepare a meal or massaging your back after a long day
Yeah if someone at a date starts to guilt trip you that they put in effort to look good for this date, that's a red flag! Congratulations to you that you showered, combed your hair, put on some decent clothes, maybe some perfume... WTF imagine some people think showering and doing the bare minimal is an effort... And then there's this chick that goes extra for dates and guilt trips people. Still a red flag regardless. She should start being a call girl then if she wanna be that extra bitch that rich dudes pay for, but for a normal date?? I don't think most people wanna be treated like an ATM in a real relationship so her guilt tripping just scares guys away probably.
There are actually lot of women incels calling others incels, its honestly funny .Had one too when i pointed this out about first date going out for a dinner, told them to split it and got attacked by many of them ,telling me like- wasting her time and whoever invited has to pay .....
Everybody loves to pretend like they have depression these days. Ffs man if you have depression it aint gonna help it seeing this man laugh. Occasional sadness is not the same as depression. Sadness is normal.
I actually never assumed a man would pay on a date. I always made sure I ordered what I could afford and was prepared to pay. I just don't like the feeling of owing someone something. Some women play with men and their money and that's a dangerous game. If he offers to pay that's nice but don't feel he automatically should because he may assume something about you too. Just saying. Respect goes both ways.
It's always nice to have the woman offer to split, I'll still pay for the date but it good knowing what kind of woman she is. Not someone full of herself like the one in the video.
Usually, I'll give the server my card and tell them to pay for the date before he gets a chance to. The last time I did it I told him, “dont worry you can pay next time” with a wink and he just looked at me for while afterwards lol.
After watching a few dozen videos I have a Preach Outrage/Disbelief Scale: 1. Crossed arms, raised eyebrow 2. Pssht, click, eye roll 3. Ranting humorously 4. Paces around 5. Goes off in French 6. Goes off faster and louder in Creole 7. Leaves Throwing the phone was a new one though - need to figure out where it fits in the scale. Best part about the phone throw though was Aba likes to rile Preach up, instigate as it were, and normally stands there smirking as Preach gets wound up. He was not ready for the phone throw. 😆
You missed one. It goes in maybe the number 2 or 3 slot. It's when Preach is in such a disbelief and shock, he stares into the camera, mouth open😦, left eye brow 🤨up and damn near gasping. lol That's DEFINITELY one.
Hair, nails, makeup, shopping are commonly referred to as “self care” by women. I don’t see how it’s fair to charge a random man you’re dating for your self care regimen. Do you also charge people for the fact that you shower or brush your teeth? Those things cost money too 🤷🏻♀️
This reminded me of “it’s complicated”. This guy interviews random people on the streets with such excellent questions. On of them was structured similar. “Isn’t a man also expected to look good, dress nice, smell good and show up impressive?” The women never had a response besides the occasional “it’s what society expects” (as to why men should pay). There is a difference when a guy offers to pay and when you actually EXPECT it.
@@capo4ever334 I dont think guys really want chicks to pay for the date. The problem guys have is their entitlement, we dont mind being the one who deals with shit but doing something for someone who appreciates what you do vs someone who feels entitled to your help is different.
@@sibusiso2841 well said, men would pay for all dates if they got some appreciation. Dates today have become a transaction, you are expected to pay and all she has to do is get dressed and provide no meaningful conversation. Some women have figured out they could get free dinners by keeping guys on a rotation every week. Different guys pay for different days, just looking good is all the bring to the table. Save your time, money and sanity and stop being a transaction machine, date someone who appreciates you and brings something other than looking good to the table. I would avoid dating any lady who cares about her looks.
What I (as a woman) also don't like about this is that it almost implies that if you DON'T do all of that dressing up, you are less deserving of good treatment. Fact of the matter is, nails and hair can be very expensive. A lot of people can't afford that. So if a woman rock her natural, some strip lashes, and a cheap (but cute) dress is she any less worthy of being treated to a nice dinner?
It's crazy because they asked her about that same thing in the video. They all admitted that she would still get dates with men without the extra makeup etc. So yh you have a really good point.
Expecting men to pay for women to get dressed for the day, and claiming it's fine because men "appreciate" it when a woman wears makeup, is like showing up at a Salvation Army with canned goods because you know they'll appreciate it, and then being all, "Alright, that'll be $100 for the canned goods."
@Ryan I just so happened to wonder who these guys were making such comments and you were the lucky one that I chose to look at. Age and experience do matter. You don't want to take advice from bitter, middle-aged guys and immature boys who think they've got it all figured out with very little experience. Go to the source. You're a straight man, right? Don't get advice from other men, listen to women. Listening to and respecting women is how you connect with women. I mean, if you're gay, I'm totally down with your connecting with the bros and slagging women because in that case, we're inconsequential. Don't take dating advice from other incels. You're better off getting it from your mom.
Let alone if a man told her exactly what to wear to a date. Suddenly it’s misogynistic, controlling, toxic, and how dare you… Because they know some men are able get this privilege for far less. 😂👊🏾
After my closest friend died honestly I love watching you guys fuck around with each other, joke & laugh. Much love sent your way boys you guys are a positive in the TH-cam community
It’s a delusion of grandeur. I date women and not ever have I thought that about myself or the woman I’m on a date with. If I offer to pay its because I want to treat her…if she pays I also consider it a treat and or kind gesture. Never would I use her beauty or mine to determine who pays. Once she says something that resembles what this woman says…she can definitely pay her own way.. And if I did consider her attractive.. that’s where it would end. Period
No, i'ts not just this individual lady. This is a widespread problem, in the west. States or Europe, it doesn't matter. The average woman, thinks like this now.
“I’ve had men that tell me that they like me better when I’m all dressed up” Whoa, what a foreign concept? Men like you better…. When you’re ATTRACTIVE. Nah I don’t believe that one bit 😐
The chemistry you guys have is undeniable. Whenever y'all are worked up or laughing about something it just automatically makes me have a big stupid grin on my face. I've been dealing with depression these last few months, but nothing brings me joy like seeing you two crack each other up. The vibes are infectious! Thank you sincerely
@@Spit1990 as a woman even I agree that it's very overdone, fake, and too much. I've heard from many men that you guys hate the long tarantula spider lashes, nails, and weaves lol.
I love cooking cleaning staying home taking care of my kids, educating them and taking care of my husband. Even though a lot of ppl talk crap and say I do nothing and have no ambition.... it’s a lot of work to maintain a house a raise kids. I’m all about traditional gender roles. It’s not for everyone but I hate how judgmental society is with women that choose family life over a career.
I'm right there with you girl! I'm also a stay-at-home mom and wife. Our home runs on traditional gender roles AND it's a partnership! Taking care of my husband and 4 kids is what makes me happy. You are absolutely right about the societal judgments! They're 100% negative!
I truly do not get the way a lot people like to downplay you guys like that. I’m in a college and I said this on a comment here about a 1 day or 2 ago, you guys are so responsible and resourceful for being a SAHM. It’s def not easy all the time. Your family probably appreciates you guys. I don’t know why others act like your doing this to a bunch of ungrateful people, there’s people here who say it’s a partnership and that their husband also does a lot around the house as well. Etc. I’m 19 in college but I do want this life!
We've done a great job of getting rid of traditional "gender roles" which laid out the rules of the game. But we never took the time to develop a cultural norm to replace them. At this point I think people need to realise that we have to negotiate new rules with our partners, because none of us are on the same page. Getting mad because of assumed expectations in an age without any assumed responsibility, bears no fruit.
I feel like this is the female version of when men do acts of service for women and expect a date/love/attention. "I bought you a drink, so you have to talk to me" - it's the same thing, those women appreciate, but probably didn't ask for, that drink. The world doesn't owe you anything, so you can doll yourself up (and buy women drinks) for the enjoyment you get out of it, but expect nothing more.
I feel like its a bit difficult cuz they not even doing something for the dude like atleast he bought you a drink. She just did something for herself and still expected praise
@@vanessagil3527 yes but most of girls/woman claim to be dressing for themselves right? But then turn around and say they made effort to look good and dres good for the guy they go on a dat with so their part of effort is already complete
The tradition of men paying for dates originates from a time when women typically didn't work. Because women didn’t work, men were responsible for taking care of them. The courting process was basically the man proving he could take care of the woman. When your explanation for why men should pay is that "I get pretty for them" it means that tradition needs to be reevaluated.
When couldn’t women work? Serious question because even as far back as the 1600’s there have been female master blacksmiths not to mention weavers and brewers ( both of these professions leading to the surnames Of the same names). Women have been able to professionally work for a long time, it’s just that when jobs are limited and only one half of society ( males ) is expected to support their families ( or risk imprisonment )then those few paying professions would naturally be reserved for those who need it rather than those who just want it.
@@richardbossman9875 I don't think he meant to be taken literally but more figuratively. Women could never earn at the level of a man back then, so it made sense to men to pay. However, now they can blow them away with their salary, yet they still want them to pay. And I don't see this hypocrisy changing anytime soon. As the saying goes: women want the privileges of men, while still being treated as traditional women, with the accountability of children...
Whose ever idea it was to go out on a date is the one who should pay. Since men are usually the ones asking out women, then they are usually the ones paying. I do that and I'm not even a dude..
@@richardbossman9875 Society and the concept of dating goes back a lot further than the 1600's. But you bring up a fair point. I'll rephrase my initial comment.
I have never understood make up. I am 32 and I do make up only when I'm going to attend a party. Everyday I absolutely don't. I think women look more beautiful without it. Ironically the men I have gone on dates with told me that they love this about me. I am not saying make up is wrong but don't let it take over your personality. You should be able to step out of the house with same confidence without it. Trust me ladies you will save so much money because make up is really not necessary. The men you should end up with don't care about that $hit.
Expecting men to pay for dates is a relic of a time when women weren't considered independent or capable & courting was the burden of men. Or, you know, it's just a sense of entitlement. Some ladies want the princess perks but none of the expectations that go with it.
All the benefits with none of the negatives. Gender equality for the high paying jobs but crickets for the labor intensive jobs, alimony and child support on divorce but only for them.
@@freakymrq In my experience, most of the time, it's not even a woman thing. I'm a woman & I used to go on dates where she expected me to pay for everything because she was "worth it". I would have to say "no" since I suspected it was some kind of solicitation sting. Some folks are just very entitled.
@@ashleybrooke2087 I think social media has made narcissism the norm and even encouraged it to a sickening degree. People feel entitled because people online will give them that feeling all day and they just continue that in the real world.
Lols a lot of women be "showing up" all the while men are "dipping out" in droves. Every time I hear a woman cry out, "where have all the good men gone," I see it as another woman hitting the wall at 30.
@@thecobaltblue9311 hey now I just got a new phone after 3 years and it was 200 and its the best upgrade I ever got outta the 4 phones I had prior in comparison.
A woman expecting a man to pay for dinner is no different from a man expecting sex just because he's nice to a woman. Both reek of self entitlement. I'm all for cleaning up for hygienic reasons, but civility, humbleness and fair treatment is a bare minimum and looking good should be a personal preference.
@@tiredox3788 I think they tell people to stop when people calling it "pin of shame" when they pinned it only because the comment is insightful or a comment they agree with. You've seen those comments.
Getting a woman to answer a direct question. Especially when the answer doesn't support their position, is like getting an armless man to catch a football.
I absolutely in my whole heart love them. I appreciate the honesty and not calling people out but just the accountability.. she sounds silly and they make fun of that . You can't be mad at it
"I never pay for a date" And she said this after aba turn her argument against her. Her smiling showed that it clicked, but she rather keep her pride and just "wants to be right". Woman like this sicken me.
I think he was raised by mostly women, he has a wife though. Not every guy is some hardened tough guy walking around, men come in all kinds, same with women.
@@candideggplant1575 I mean preach did have a very active father figure too, not to mention when he was younger he got stuck in that "gang life", so I don't think it's just that. Preach is just comfortable with his personality and sexuality and likes to make people laugh and be jolly.
My boyfriend and I both joke about being each other's sugar mama/daddy or being a stay at home mom/dad if we have children. But the thing is, we understand the expectations of being the one who doesn't/can't support the family/relationship financially. And we both know the expectations and duties "staying at home" entails. You gotta actually support the relationship and household because you're not bringing in anything other than that. All jokes aside, we've agreed an a two income household with the best effort in the family structure. Because, although not equal in monetary value/child rearing, we still have to bring fair effort to the table.
You're on the right path there with talking about it and planning the future. Whatever your decisions, shared goals and priorities are huge in a relationship.
I've said this before but they really are the best friends in a non-friend relationship. Aba and Preach are friend-fluid and have been before it was cool.
They have way to much chemistry to not be somewhat close on a personal level. I think they just say they arent friends just in case things go sour for whatever reason
My sisters, brothers and I all know how to cook clean and fend for ourselves. Our Momma taught us all how to take care of self and home. 🔥🔥✊🏾 Love you Momma
When I was single I would always show up to dates ready to pay . Didn’t expect for my date to pay for my food. If they payed for my food I’d give the tip and buy the drinks. Idk why all these women feel entitled to free shit. If didn’t have money I wouldn’t go to the date lol . I was just raised this way. My dad always told me “if you don’t have money to go out DONT GO OUT. STAY THE FUCK HOME” 🤣. I would show up to dates natural cus I didn’t want men to think I was cat fishing them lmao 😂
Wish more were like you. Dad taught me the same thing with money. Don't have it don't do stuff. And natural look is WAY better looking than layers of make up, fake nasty nails, and shit.
When I went out with a woman I had no problem paying and I did it because I wanted to not because she felt I was obligated to. But if she wanted to pay for herself I wasn't going to argue.
It's a hard thing to admit at 24 years of age but I feel like you guys are giving me the guidance and life lessons I never had growing up without a dad, thank you for that, seriously 👍🏻
@@mizkimo466 Kevin Samuels is all about "high value man" this "high value man" that. His entire channel is about "high value man" even though 99% of his viewers are not high value men. What exactly are you learning then? Him bashing people for having too high of a standard? Him pointing out how delusional some people are? That isn't learning that's just entertainment.
@@MsYas-lz2cg I don’t watch much of Kevin but from what I’ve seen he atleast use to give men advice before his show turned into a high value men debate thanks to the women who calls into his show
@@mizkimo466 aba and preach are great for men who lacked proper male role models to help us adjust to this world. Kevin Samuels is little more than an entertainer playing both sides because it profits him. He makes really good points but every now then he says stuff that are so asinine that it makes you really consider what his motives are. Like calling Jeannie Mai the ideal high value woman when everybody who watched aba and preach's videoes on her and the real knows for a fact that this couldn't be further from the truth.
The issue is a lot of women out here leave their house and or apartment with a movie being played. They have the soundtrack, the actors and the key grip the best boy and everything, but no one else knows the movie is going on. That's their fantasy world where it makes sense to them because it's in the script. The issue is no one else knows that.
Anyone else tired of women constantly bitching about equality then at every turn also bitching about men not paying for EVERYTHING, men not treating them like queens and so on. Adults shouldn't need to be told that they can't have both.
This has nothing to do with the fight for equality. Gender inequalities in the workplace and gender expectations in dating are really not the same thing. Please stop mixing up simole things. Also for the most part women who fight for inequality aren't out here worried about who pays for a date and neither are the men eho help in this. If you dont believe in equality for the sexes then ok but be rest assured that gender equality is much bigger than all this dating BS.
Yeah because women making equality are the same women who look like that… good one Also as the comment above explains there is far more serious inequality issues then who’s gonna pay on a date or even dating in general. The reaction if I turned up to a date with the same level of effort as a man… I would be recoiled from. I’ve already had comments from people about hair legs or whatever (when they really weren’t that hairy)- if I turned up to a date that way! Haha would be funny
Big mistake. Among the main reasons marriages fail, is because the spouse gets too comfortable , let herself/himself go and the initial deal is altered. Also marriage makes no sense in 2021 anyway.
Getting free stuff isn’t always great. Went to AIT with a girl who already had a boyfriend, but was flirting with this other trainee. After one “date” he kept leaving her creepy video messages hinting he wanted to marry her and was stalking her (he did know she had a boyfriend back home). He’d bring her gifts of her favorite food/snacks to the barracks and was getting increasingly aggressive. She told me, “If he’s dumb enough to keep giving me free stuff, I’m going to take it.” I told her if she keeps taking; he’s going to think she’s interested/he has a chance and will keep stalking her. Lightbulb finally turned on for her and she left him alone. Free stuff is not worth your life, stop playing with men’s money.
I've always said that I'm happy with a traditional woman, or a full blown modern independent woman. The one thing I don't want to deal with, is a cherry picker. You can't have all the good parts, because that leaves me with all the bad parts.
You could SHARE the good parts. While youre paying what, the cable bill? She can plan a vacation for YALL where you still probably gotta pay for dinner yet she got you there and the room 😂😂😂 Or earn enough to allow a women with you to stay home. That sounds like a bad part , but ey, different strokes.
The bar is so low that when she answered your questions honestly even when it contradicted her points I applauded her when it should just be the norm 🤦🏿♂️
Went on a date with a female I met poolside. Asked her out and we went out for drinks and I paid the tab. After we left we went to a restaurant to get some food. When the waitress dropped off the tab she reached for it and said she would pay. I was pretty impressed by this, especially seeing the tab was for around $100. So I let her pay, as we were walking back to the apartment she was complaining that I was suppose to pay and shouldn’t have let her pay for the meal. I told that female “if you didn’t want to pay you shouldn’t have offered.” She was pissed 🤣 it was a win win. I got a free meal and picked up on some red flags 💪
I hate fake initiative test. It's such an immature concept like if you don't want to don't do it. No one is going take your choices away. Just expect the man to do it but don't take the initiative and then back out
@@mario125ww it’s childish but having that mentality is a red flag. It just means she’s going to try and purposely push your buttons in the future and your whole relationship will revolve around passing her tests. Like bitch, I can find ten more of you without having to play what’s on this bitches mind today 🤣
The argument of them having to spend money for clothes so we should pay makes as much sense as I invite you for a dinner at my place but you need to pay for the plates that I've bought. Shiii
@@StellarAudyssey Nah i said what i said they definitely understand otherwise they wouldn't deflect so easily just look at how she reacts when aba brings her back to the question. Careful if you think they actually believe it means you have fallen for it already, stop believing they are that stupid trust me they are not. If she did truly believe it then it would be very easy to admit they should also pay because men also put time, effort, money into looking good for dates. She wants to be treated certain way simple as that projecting it in such away is so they dont look bad.
@@xMckingwill Mate, the vast majority of vvomen fully believe the "social constructionist" propaganda. There are a few that are duplicitous (in this regard) as you say, but they're the minority... I'm out here every day dating mate, I see it in plain sight. They're one notch away from fully conditioned automatons.
@@StellarAudyssey yeah there are people like that sure but they are likely NOT the majority but the minority. Here is the issue the amount of women you have dated is no were near enough for you to reasonably or logically come to the conclusion that its the majority. Again its not that they believe it its more that they want to accept it because it comes down to wanting to be treated a certain way, and refusing to give it up its simple as that you are over complicating things. The instant you pin them down and actually ask them about it they will deflect ( in many cases of this they react the same way, right when you get to say "yes" they try and wiggle out of it). They want their cake and eat it too.
Not to mention the outfits they wear on a date with you most likely have been worn on other dates with other people. So by her logic she needs to offer a discount.
@@quesoqueso7598That’s normally the best option. Like I don’t agree with the analogy of calling it “cherry picking”, I think we’re all just trying to work out how to be courteous and respectful in the modern era
@@quesoqueso7598 Yes unfortunately there’s a lot of people out there that do manage to live in their own self indulgent delusional bubbles with no respect for anybody else. And it does take a lot of strength of character to not let people like that dissuade you from the person that you want to be. I find most dates generally fall on the traditional curtesy of hosting (and I think that there’s a lot of agreement in society about what is expected of a host and of a guest)....lol Unfortunately coming back to being ‘courteous and respectful’, or the lack there of, all we have to do is look up people’s wedding horror stories of bride/groomzillas and disrespectful guess to find out how warped that concept has now become.
I've always been taught the person who picks where the date is offers to pay just in case they pick somewhere out of the other person's budget to try to avoid any awkwardness.
Don't ask someone on a date if you don't have a place in mind, it just complicates things. I was taught whoever offers to take someone on the date ultimately pays.
@@eko7030 What is a date sometimes I get confused when I hear dumb people talk about dates all o a sudden a date is been describe as something that money as to be spend on question is what would u call this if I to someone out one evening to sit and talk at a beach for half hour?
Women spend time and money on their skin, eyelashes, hair, nails, ect for the same reason that they talk to men for days and weeks with no intention of going out with them. It's an EGO BOOST.
@@tipsandtricks6071 I think your definition of simping is off. Telling her she looks good the way she does is not simping. If she can not appreciate that remark and tries to make you work to give her that simple compliment then GET OUT. Let a guy with lower standards work with that.
I'll be frank - this woman was trying to play you. She was just trying to see if she could get you to simp for her. She thinks you're cute and wants your attention.
@@pomme_paille they’re not friends. They said so themselves, there’s even a video titled “WE’RE NOT FRIENDS” I believe. Aba said something along the lines of they have great work chemistry, but outside of that they’re not exactly the same type of people although I believe they’re definitely friends, as they’ve been doing this for years, went on plane flights and visited dangerous countries gotten into dangerous incidents together, like the one they stated in their recent cartel roadblock video, and Preach saying Aba has met his parents and he knows what they’re like.
@@pomme_paille yeah it's a little confusing they apparently arnt friends just business partners or colleagues but if you have watched as long as me they are also friends, kind of lol I see this episode wasn't so friendly but hey they always work it out & carry on so long as they are happy I suppose.
It's just so sad that women no longer go on dates for the sake of getting to know someone, but to see what they can get ftom someone. They rob themselves of so much and they don't even know it.
Even when my mom didn’t make a lot of money she was like “ nah I can pay” she told me she didn’t like to not seem to have money. But she was so used to paying for dudes that my dad and her fought over the bill. I think that’s good that both of the dates wanna pay. I think that’s how it should be.
The major problem with both western men and women is that they want to be traditional or modern only where it suits them, in Africa though we both go to work, we as men understand that we have to take care of our women, paying for dates providing a comfortable life for our women and children etc and women know that they still have to take care of us by cooking, cleaning, washing and ironing our clothing etc. we still do our traditional roles though we both wake up and go to work
This is so true I was working until my husband and I planned to start a family and he understood I wasn't able to go to work and have to look after our child so he as the man gave me an allowance . I still do my traditional roles of cooking , cleaning and I respect him as the head of the house. As Africans we still practice traditional roles .
@@sisiphomabinza698 that's a good thing my sister, like it's always said on Twitter, SA men and women act like they are not traditional but walk into their lives and you'll be shocked
I mean, if you both like it then that is absolutely fine. I personally don't like to clean and wash and iron someone's clothes. It's waste of time, if I had to do all this then I would rather be alone and keep my time?
@@joannawinters6592my husband doesn't force me to clean or iron , he even suggested we get a maid if housework is overwhelming but it's not thanks to technology there are dishwashers and washing machines which makes cleaning easier so I don't mind doing it on my own. Infact I've enjoyed being a stay at home mom I have more time on my hands compare to working long day shifts , getting stuck in traffic and coming back home exhausted. I even realised I can finally do my CFA board exams now that I have more time on my hands being at home.
@@obakengtaje1759 I got off twitter last year because it's toxic and deleted IG aswell there's too many false ideologies being praised and pushed and not to forget the narcissism on the platforms where you can't have a sensible debate without someone calling out you have less followers so your point is invalid. I'm 28 but sometimes I feel like an older person because I don't even listen to today's pop music it's way too sexual and vulgar for my liking. There's nothing wrong with practicing traditional roles . And what I've noticed some women who don't want to practice traditional roles still want to date / marry a higher value man that's traditional and provide for them , that's unfair.
Women that refuse to EVER pay for a date or anything else doesn’t deserve to even be dating. They deserve to eat alone. Cmon it’s just rude to expect to be paid for 24/7. Men aren’t wallets.
GIRL ARE YOU SERIOUS? ARE WE MASCULINAS NOW? THE ONLY FACT WOMEN WOULD DO THAT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE PICKMES OR THEY WANT TO "IMPRESS" A DUSTY WHO DOESN'T LIKE HER, BECAUSE LETS BE HONEST, A MAN WHO LOVES A WOMAN WILL MAKE EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MAKE HER HAPPY, IF HE DOESN'T THEN HE DOES NOT WANT YOU OR SEE YOU AS THE PRIZE, PERIOD. IT IS IN A MAN'S NATURE TO PROVIDE, THAT IS HIS MASCULINE NEED, AND YOU ARE EMASCULATING HIM, AGAIN, A MAN WHO FEELS LIKE A REAL MAN WILL TREAT HIS WOMAN LIKE THE PRIZE IF HE LOVES HER.
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Whenever it’s suggested that women do all that (hair, nails, make up, clothes, surgery) for male attention they are real quick in denying it and saying they do it for themselves or for their “confidence”. But they always use those same things as justification as to why women shouldn’t have to pay on dates or that they have it harder than men in general. Gender roles for thee, but not for me.
@@Dickson_ can you send this to me? I can't copy it
@@Dickson_ Dude, I've seen that comment before. You either stole it or you're the original author spreading the gospel. In any case, it's good advice.
@@Dickson_ I just read all of that. Other than 21, It all makes sense to me, 21 is just the exception since I'm not educated on/ have never personally experienced the issue. I hope most of this stuff is just common sense though.
For this type of women is why we can't have nice things. Yikes I don't blame yall. I hope you find a nice woman
@@moses751 that shit needs to be a worksheet handout for the whole class.
Women - "We don't dress to impress men"
Also women "I dressed up and put all this work in so now pay for it"
Lol. So true. The contradictions are sickening.
It’s funny because women aren’t saying both of those things, but the ones that say the first one act like the second thing doesn’t happen.
Like the first sentence says “WE don’t dress…” but yeah a lot are.
THANK YOU!! like which is it woman!!??
I'm a women and I'm in no part in this!!Lol I had one lunch/"date" with a guy who's now my husband. And let me just say I was in work uniform and he still pay for my lunch 😏 and I paid him back with three babies lol, but yeah it was a back and forth thing we did paying the bill, some women do need to stfu, then they complain how no one wants to take them on a date
This. No ounce of integrity.
Her saying the guy should pay cause she looks good is like when a guy thinks she should put out cause he paid.
Then when you buss that on them they be like...wait that's illegal
Exactly what I was trying to say. You explained it perfectly.
Oh damn so true
TRUTH
Damn that's exactly what it is
LADIES, let me say this once. If you get dressed and look nice when going out. It just means you are an adult that loves themselves. If you need to do that for an incentive, you need to rethink your priorities.
True, but investing in yourself and maintaining an appropriate body weight attracts a certain caliber of men which can then transition into incentives 🤷🏾♀️
@@CandieP.... you got a point
I think it's more for confidence reasons but I'm going by my own thoughts, I know most men don't care if you're wearing makeup or not, I couldn't put that on the man when I know it's only me who has a problem with my bare face, that'd be me expecting him to pay because I'm insecure, idk if this is accurate to other women but I know makeup drastically helps my confidence
Agreed. I never pay the first time I meet up with someone. If that first interaction goes well then whoever brings up a date pays. 🤷🏻♂️ or I pay for this date she pays for that date and we go back and forth. I don’t pay just bc they look good🤣 just bc you look good don’t mean men have to give you a hand out👏🏼
@@CandieP that woman initial purpose is to get a sugar daddy…..not to get money from they man for wanting to keep up w their physical appearance…
Speaking of roles, You would not BELIEVE THE HATE I get when I say I cook, make my husbands plate and take it to him. Or that I LIKE being a housewife & mom. If feminism is about options for women, why are my choices not a good as a woman who chose to be any other thing? I’ve literally been shamed!
Honestly, the blatant hypocrisy of the feminist movement has basically set it back years from its previous waves.
Man salute to you. I've always thought I would be a great house wife since boredom and time in the house would actually make me want to do house duties/cook. As a house wife, do you have any hobbies that you do in your spare time?
Dude, you're living the life.
yea the irony is feminists fought for the choice to work now most have no choice but to work , housewives have more freedom nowdays than those "independent " living paycheck to paycheck feminists
I quit my job as a legal assistant for the federal government to stay home and be fully dedicated to my family. None of my female friends thought it was a good idea but it's been 10 years and I'm still happy about it. Most of them are still single 🤷 "You have to do what others won't to get the things that others don't".
Watching Preach lose his shit with this woman and throw Abas' phone was PRICELESS!
That was hilarious 😂
😂😂🔥
Yeeet
I must have watched that 20x …. Hollering! 🤣
"Why you throw my phone, nigga??" I'm crying over here
Aba: “Look at that flick of the wrist”
Preach: Flicks wrist
😂😂😂😂
Amazing 😂❤️
😂😂😂
I don't know about why, but Preach's laugh is SOOOO satisfying. It's good to hear!
Dear God his laugh is beyond abrasive and annoying. The other guy is good inspite of the dreadlock guy.
@@Liberalbeaststl nice bait
@@mediocri5y hey tried didn't he..... All good though
His soul shines through that smile every time, it's contagious as hell 😂
@@Liberalbeaststl I like Preach but sometimes his music breaks are rather gratuitous
The chemistry you two have, friends, professionals working together, whatever the case. I love it. You guys are great. I’ve never regretted subscribing.
Nah they aren't friends like that
They’re not friends tho
Couldn’t agree more, kinda weird tho seeing as I thought they were the type to not care too much about labels; the whole we’re not friends video confused the hell outta me lmao
@@AdonisGaming93 they say that but pshhhhht look at em. Dey bros
@@ForeskinTim lol hey maybe, but maybe they are just bros like that but outside of work rarely ever hangout. Kinda like work friends, you vibe but when your shift is over you just wanna go home and be by yourself.
Woman: "I'm strong, independent, and need no man!"
Also woman: "What do you mean we're splitting the check?? I'm an 'attractive' woman! I'm entitled to your money!"
They want a man to pay for basically everything.
Also..
Your $$$ is HER $$$, and her $$$ is HER $$$.
Yup they want to be independent but traditional at the same time it doesn’t even work like tht 🤦🏿♂️
That's not a woman sir, that is a bird
Preach's "I showed up" just made my day. I was sitting here stressed, but something about that just flipped the right lever in my brain.
Right?! Now, I'm going to use that all the time when I meet people--"I showed up!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If that's what did it for you. you might need counseling
@@ponchlocz6609 What? What did you think I meant? I'm seriously doubting we're on the same page.😬
@@VLP_123 I use that phrase all the time. Especially at work 😎 "you should be happy I came in" 😁
Absolutely!!! So damn good….relieved a lot of stress I had going on today
"Guys should pay on the first date because women put in money to look good."
"What if a man comes in with a good body, wearing an armani suit rocking a rolex? Will you pay for the date?"
"...I'm not paying for the date."
I would rather her be honest and say she prefers traditional dating roles instead of that BS she tried to peddle.
She doesn't prefer traditional dating roles. She prefers that men stick to traditional roles while she enjoys the modern role. Heads you lose, tails she wins.
@@jaylen5280 Exactly there’s a lot I could say but to summit up they want you to be traditional while they’re modern they want the benefits of traditionalism until it’s time to wash your plate or prepare a meal or massaging your back after a long day
If a man were to complain that he spent money on his material goods and gain nothing from a date he'd be an incel.
Correct
Yeah if someone at a date starts to guilt trip you that they put in effort to look good for this date, that's a red flag! Congratulations to you that you showered, combed your hair, put on some decent clothes, maybe some perfume... WTF imagine some people think showering and doing the bare minimal is an effort... And then there's this chick that goes extra for dates and guilt trips people. Still a red flag regardless. She should start being a call girl then if she wanna be that extra bitch that rich dudes pay for, but for a normal date?? I don't think most people wanna be treated like an ATM in a real relationship so her guilt tripping just scares guys away probably.
There are actually lot of women incels calling others incels, its honestly funny .Had one too when i pointed this out about first date going out for a dinner, told them to split it and got attacked by many of them ,telling me like- wasting her time and whoever invited has to pay .....
Preach's laugh is depression therapy.
Fr his laugh is straight up a virus
Everybody loves to pretend like they have depression these days. Ffs man if you have depression it aint gonna help it seeing this man laugh. Occasional sadness is not the same as depression. Sadness is normal.
@@7yk041 facts it’s getting ridiculous at this point
Their entire channel is depression therapy
Not ever a lie.
I actually never assumed a man would pay on a date. I always made sure I ordered what I could afford and was prepared to pay. I just don't like the feeling of owing someone something. Some women play with men and their money and that's a dangerous game. If he offers to pay that's nice but don't feel he automatically should because he may assume something about you too. Just saying. Respect goes both ways.
Right, you feel me!
It's always nice to have the woman offer to split, I'll still pay for the date but it good knowing what kind of woman she is. Not someone full of herself like the one in the video.
Based AF
I would pay for you. You seem genuine.
Usually, I'll give the server my card and tell them to pay for the date before he gets a chance to.
The last time I did it I told him, “dont worry you can pay next time” with a wink and he just looked at me for while afterwards lol.
You guys quarrel like real brothers, only difference being that it is more healthy than most siblings hahah Mad respect
After watching a few dozen videos I have a Preach Outrage/Disbelief Scale: 1. Crossed arms, raised eyebrow 2. Pssht, click, eye roll 3. Ranting humorously 4. Paces around 5. Goes off in French 6. Goes off faster and louder in Creole 7. Leaves
Throwing the phone was a new one though - need to figure out where it fits in the scale.
Best part about the phone throw though was Aba likes to rile Preach up, instigate as it were, and normally stands there smirking as Preach gets wound up. He was not ready for the phone throw. 😆
You missed one. It goes in maybe the number 2 or 3 slot. It's when Preach is in such a disbelief and shock, he stares into the camera, mouth open😦, left eye brow 🤨up and damn near gasping. lol That's DEFINITELY one.
Creole is the language you were looking for...it's not exactly patois as it's a common language of Haitian people
😂😂
@@charlesr7269 Patois means a regional dialect and Creole is a regional dialect specific to Haiti.
Lmfaoooo that's a beautifully crafted scale
Hair, nails, makeup, shopping are commonly referred to as “self care” by women. I don’t see how it’s fair to charge a random man you’re dating for your self care regimen. Do you also charge people for the fact that you shower or brush your teeth? Those things cost money too 🤷🏻♀️
BIG FACTS!!!
You spittin sis.
You forgot tampons and deodorant man
lmaoooo Facts
So true
Careful now. The dingbats will call a pickme.
This reminded me of “it’s complicated”. This guy interviews random people on the streets with such excellent questions.
On of them was structured similar. “Isn’t a man also expected to look good, dress nice, smell good and show up impressive?” The women never had a response besides the occasional “it’s what society expects” (as to why men should pay).
There is a difference when a guy offers to pay and when you actually EXPECT it.
No fene genjutsu works on them
“it’s complicated” is my boy john i met him at fashion show mall in vegas lol
If the guy asks the girl out on a date, he should pay. If a girl happens to ask a guy out on a date(never happens) she should pay.
@@capo4ever334 I dont think guys really want chicks to pay for the date. The problem guys have is their entitlement, we dont mind being the one who deals with shit but doing something for someone who appreciates what you do vs someone who feels entitled to your help is different.
@@sibusiso2841 well said, men would pay for all dates if they got some appreciation. Dates today have become a transaction, you are expected to pay and all she has to do is get dressed and provide no meaningful conversation.
Some women have figured out they could get free dinners by keeping guys on a rotation every week. Different guys pay for different days, just looking good is all the bring to the table.
Save your time, money and sanity and stop being a transaction machine, date someone who appreciates you and brings something other than looking good to the table. I would avoid dating any lady who cares about her looks.
The phone situation took me out! He said “give me your REAL phone” 😭😭😭
What I (as a woman) also don't like about this is that it almost implies that if you DON'T do all of that dressing up, you are less deserving of good treatment. Fact of the matter is, nails and hair can be very expensive. A lot of people can't afford that. So if a woman rock her natural, some strip lashes, and a cheap (but cute) dress is she any less worthy of being treated to a nice dinner?
It's crazy because they asked her about that same thing in the video. They all admitted that she would still get dates with men without the extra makeup etc. So yh you have a really good point.
All natural is great by me, especially without those weird add-on lashes and layers of makeup.
All natural is the best way to go.
Guys don’t like makeup
Men want minimal makeup….
Expecting men to pay for women to get dressed for the day, and claiming it's fine because men "appreciate" it when a woman wears makeup, is like showing up at a Salvation Army with canned goods because you know they'll appreciate it, and then being all, "Alright, that'll be $100 for the canned goods."
@Ryan Ryan, you look 14. Just saying.
@@chaoswitch1974 lwell a 14 year old with alot of wisdom if it’s true. unnecessary comment but hey freedom of speech right ?
@Ryan I just so happened to wonder who these guys were making such comments and you were the lucky one that I chose to look at. Age and experience do matter. You don't want to take advice from bitter, middle-aged guys and immature boys who think they've got it all figured out with very little experience. Go to the source. You're a straight man, right? Don't get advice from other men, listen to women. Listening to and respecting women is how you connect with women. I mean, if you're gay, I'm totally down with your connecting with the bros and slagging women because in that case, we're inconsequential. Don't take dating advice from other incels. You're better off getting it from your mom.
Let alone if a man told her exactly what to wear to a date. Suddenly it’s misogynistic, controlling, toxic, and how dare you…
Because they know some men are able get this privilege for far less. 😂👊🏾
@@chaoswitch1974 Stop projecting, my guy.
After my closest friend died honestly I love watching you guys fuck around with each other, joke & laugh. Much love sent your way boys you guys are a positive in the TH-cam community
I'm sorry for your loss
They are so refreshing!!
I'm sorry for the loss of your bro 😔 🙏
hope you are better now
That sucks dude, hope you're feeling better
Preach, you have arguably the most contagious laugh I've ever heard. Yous guys keep doing your thing. Love the videos
I'm not sure society's value on women is somehow inflated or it's just that this individual lady has delusion of grandeur.
I've heard her sentiment from many other women
It’s a delusion of grandeur. I date women and not ever have I thought that about myself or the woman I’m on a date with. If I offer to pay its because I want to treat her…if she pays I also consider it a treat and or kind gesture. Never would I use her beauty or mine to determine who pays. Once she says something that resembles what this woman says…she can definitely pay her own way.. And if I did consider her attractive.. that’s where it would end. Period
My guess is that she spent a lot of time on Dating Apps which inflated her perception.
No, i'ts not just this individual lady. This is a widespread problem, in the west. States or Europe, it doesn't matter. The average woman, thinks like this now.
It's both, one at the same tho
“I’ve had men that tell me that they like me better when I’m all dressed up”
Whoa, what a foreign concept? Men like you better…. When you’re ATTRACTIVE. Nah I don’t believe that one bit 😐
@@SPDRM entitled girls, doesn't matter the race
@Ryan you don't surround yourself by that many females then cuz this shit is in all races
@@SPDRM not just black girls 🤦🏽♂️
@@SPDRM why black?
Change your profile picture rn
The chemistry you guys have is undeniable. Whenever y'all are worked up or laughing about something it just automatically makes me have a big stupid grin on my face.
I've been dealing with depression these last few months, but nothing brings me joy like seeing you two crack each other up. The vibes are infectious! Thank you sincerely
@In Her Blues seriously
Their friendship is what I aspire to have
Hope Youu Make It Through! ❤️
It’s only temporary bro. Things will get better 👌🏾❤️
Preaches laugh is so damn contagious.
"We get our nails done, our hair done"
I personally don't care for extravagant nails or the goofy shit a lot of our women do to their hair, so...🤷🏾♂️
Agree, thank you, from one lady to another 🌹
@@tereseelizabeth lmao
I'm a guy, but thank you?
@@Spit1990 sorry , my apologies 🤭
Agreed! 'Goofy shit' indeed.
@@Spit1990 as a woman even I agree that it's very overdone, fake, and too much. I've heard from many men that you guys hate the long tarantula spider lashes, nails, and weaves lol.
I love cooking cleaning staying home taking care of my kids, educating them and taking care of my husband. Even though a lot of ppl talk crap and say I do nothing and have no ambition.... it’s a lot of work to maintain a house a raise kids. I’m all about traditional gender roles. It’s not for everyone but I hate how judgmental society is with women that choose family life over a career.
I'm right there with you girl! I'm also a stay-at-home mom and wife. Our home runs on traditional gender roles AND it's a partnership! Taking care of my husband and 4 kids is what makes me happy. You are absolutely right about the societal judgments! They're 100% negative!
@@ritatabasco3861 we get no sick days, no days off, and we work around the clock!
@@camilawenger right again!!!
Exactly thank you!!
I truly do not get the way a lot people like to downplay you guys like that. I’m in a college and I said this on a comment here about a 1 day or 2 ago, you guys are so responsible and resourceful for being a SAHM. It’s def not easy all the time. Your family probably appreciates you guys. I don’t know why others act like your doing this to a bunch of ungrateful people, there’s people here who say it’s a partnership and that their husband also does a lot around the house as well.
Etc. I’m 19 in college but I do want this life!
We've done a great job of getting rid of traditional "gender roles" which laid out the rules of the game. But we never took the time to develop a cultural norm to replace them. At this point I think people need to realise that we have to negotiate new rules with our partners, because none of us are on the same page. Getting mad because of assumed expectations in an age without any assumed responsibility, bears no fruit.
Well said
worddd if U wanna dismantle the roles then go the full way with it dont keep what U like this is the way shit is now
I feel like this is the female version of when men do acts of service for women and expect a date/love/attention. "I bought you a drink, so you have to talk to me" - it's the same thing, those women appreciate, but probably didn't ask for, that drink. The world doesn't owe you anything, so you can doll yourself up (and buy women drinks) for the enjoyment you get out of it, but expect nothing more.
Agreed
Not false
So true,,,,
I feel like its a bit difficult cuz they not even doing something for the dude like atleast he bought you a drink. She just did something for herself and still expected praise
@@josiahcarby6286 valid point
If you have your nails/hair done, do it because it makes you feel good. Don't do it thinking it's a business experience
Or do it as a business expense if you are an escort
"Independent woman" "I look like this for me" if you think like this, you're selling yourself like a commodity, be prepared to be treated like one.
Oooooooo get em!!!
That doesn't even make sense. If a woman is dressing to get people to pay for sh!t, then yearh, but dressing for ones self??
@@vanessagil3527 yes but most of girls/woman claim to be dressing for themselves right? But then turn around and say they made effort to look good and dres good for the guy they go on a dat with so their part of effort is already complete
All these comments are lit
How to buy? Shipping free? 😩😢🥺😫
The tradition of men paying for dates originates from a time when women typically didn't work. Because women didn’t work, men were responsible for taking care of them. The courting process was basically the man proving he could take care of the woman.
When your explanation for why men should pay is that "I get pretty for them" it means that tradition needs to be reevaluated.
Agree with you 💯
When couldn’t women work? Serious question because even as far back as the 1600’s there have been female master blacksmiths not to mention weavers and brewers ( both of these professions leading to the surnames Of the same names). Women have been able to professionally work for a long time, it’s just that when jobs are limited and only one half of society ( males ) is expected to support their families ( or risk imprisonment )then those few paying professions would naturally be reserved for those who need it rather than those who just want it.
@@richardbossman9875 I don't think he meant to be taken literally but more figuratively. Women could never earn at the level of a man back then, so it made sense to men to pay. However, now they can blow them away with their salary, yet they still want them to pay. And I don't see this hypocrisy changing anytime soon. As the saying goes: women want the privileges of men, while still being treated as traditional women, with the accountability of children...
Whose ever idea it was to go out on a date is the one who should pay. Since men are usually the ones asking out women, then they are usually the ones paying. I do that and I'm not even a dude..
@@richardbossman9875 Society and the concept of dating goes back a lot further than the 1600's. But you bring up a fair point. I'll rephrase my initial comment.
"I showed up"... Preach had me rolling on the floor!!!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The phone throwing scene had me in stitches 😂😂😂😂
The level of entitlement is real....
That "I showed up" impression belongs in the same immortalized tier as "value value", "I think so" and all the Skippy reactions 🤣💀
Don't forget the notorious "I feel..." smh🐺
I sure Kevin Samuels sitting somewhere saying
"you can't make this shit up"
Can't*
@@theawasa8413 😂
man Im sure he gon pop up on this comment section in no time
"you cunt make this shit up" this also works ? I guess ?
🤣🤣
I have never understood make up. I am 32 and I do make up only when I'm going to attend a party. Everyday I absolutely don't. I think women look more beautiful without it. Ironically the men I have gone on dates with told me that they love this about me. I am not saying make up is wrong but don't let it take over your personality. You should be able to step out of the house with same confidence without it. Trust me ladies you will save so much money because make up is really not necessary. The men you should end up with don't care about that $hit.
Preach throwing that phone was hilarious. He said “Your phone trash now”.
he most certainly wanted to fake the throw, he's too balanced to do it intentionally
🤣😅🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hell I even threw my own phone after hearing her stupidity. These modern broads will have tht effect on ya after a while..! Smh.
"You don't even value what's in front of you." Exactly. Truer words have never been spoken.
Expecting men to pay for dates is a relic of a time when women weren't considered independent or capable & courting was the burden of men.
Or, you know, it's just a sense of entitlement. Some ladies want the princess perks but none of the expectations that go with it.
All the benefits with none of the negatives. Gender equality for the high paying jobs but crickets for the labor intensive jobs, alimony and child support on divorce but only for them.
@@freakymrq
In my experience, most of the time, it's not even a woman thing. I'm a woman & I used to go on dates where she expected me to pay for everything because she was "worth it".
I would have to say "no" since I suspected it was some kind of solicitation sting.
Some folks are just very entitled.
@@ashleybrooke2087 I think social media has made narcissism the norm and even encouraged it to a sickening degree. People feel entitled because people online will give them that feeling all day and they just continue that in the real world.
“I showed up” is my new thing. Idk why it’s so damn funny
I need it on a shirt.
@@cortneyrogers8066 I agree
I scrolled through these comments specifically to like it in agreement.
@Vanessa Huezo exactly lol I did it this morning at work as I walked to my desk
Lols a lot of women be "showing up" all the while men are "dipping out" in droves.
Every time I hear a woman cry out, "where have all the good men gone," I see it as another woman hitting the wall at 30.
Aba had nothing to worry about, Androids are built to last
*Because they’re $100 to replace
Factssss
@@thecobaltblue9311 Mannnn you're crazy.
@@thecobaltblue9311 hey now I just got a new phone after 3 years and it was 200 and its the best upgrade I ever got outta the 4 phones I had prior in comparison.
@awgesh!t I got a $150 LG😂 going on 3 years
I love the chemistry these two share, that makes the show even better.
A woman expecting a man to pay for dinner is no different from a man expecting sex just because he's nice to a woman. Both reek of self entitlement.
I'm all for cleaning up for hygienic reasons, but civility, humbleness and fair treatment is a bare minimum and looking good should be a personal preference.
This is true. No comments from these losers saying that demanding sex is wrong.
Very true, which is exactly why I never accept a drink from a guy at a bar.
@Braw Rasul incel who thinks he's entitled to sex spotted.
@@yourfavoritenetcitizen6525 Idiot resorting to ad honminem spotted. Don't put words in people's mouths.
Not the same.. giving your time and attention, is not the same as giving your body. Respect yourselves...
😭😭😭 the fact that she started talking and Aba started twisting his mouth like a fish to hold in his laugh lol
When Aba and Preach give a reality check to people that were on the instagram live it feels worse than the pin on shame. VIDEO OF SHAME 💀💀
Y’all don’t like some Buckleys?
@@AbaNPreach 😂
@@AbaNPreach Hey why do people still called it the "pin of shame" when you two told people to stop doing that?
Aba & Preach - You guys talk, EXACTLY like Me and My Buddies talk.
We *were worse though*
That's why I use the term love child, so much :)
@@tiredox3788 I think they tell people to stop when people calling it "pin of shame" when they pinned it only because the comment is insightful or a comment they agree with. You've seen those comments.
Getting a woman to answer a direct question. Especially when the answer doesn't support their position, is like getting an armless man to catch a football.
I've seen an armless man play basketball with his nubs, anything is possible 😂😂
absolutely correct
0:14 You KNEW this was going to be good the second Aba was holding in his laughter 🤣
I absolutely in my whole heart love them. I appreciate the honesty and not calling people out but just the accountability.. she sounds silly and they make fun of that . You can't be mad at it
"I never pay for a date"
And she said this after aba turn her argument against her. Her smiling showed that it clicked, but she rather keep her pride and just "wants to be right". Woman like this sicken me.
Ego is helluva drug, bro.
@@oz_jones Simpspiration
Women: "I wear make-up and look good for ME"
Also Women: "I wear make-up and look good for you so you can pay"
BINGO
She might as well be new pair of sneakers
@@Rieky22 lol. New shoes aint free.
And thats all most women require so why so many tears??
@@projectcitay6217 what the actual fuck are you talking about?
pay for what. she definitely describing a pro. Lets not finish that word and describe a professional.
Preach is the most flamboyant straight man I’ve ever seen.
He just comfortable being himself 🤷🏾♂️
I think he was raised by mostly women, he has a wife though. Not every guy is some hardened tough guy walking around, men come in all kinds, same with women.
@@candideggplant1575 I mean preach did have a very active father figure too, not to mention when he was younger he got stuck in that "gang life", so I don't think it's just that.
Preach is just comfortable with his personality and sexuality and likes to make people laugh and be jolly.
He sounds like joseline hernandez
He laughs when people get jumped and assaulted, he dances for no reason, and he would definitely hook up with dudes if there weren't any women around
It's like the Destiny's Child's "Bills" song vs "Independent Woman". You can't expect both....
The two songs are both about being an independent woman. This is a misquote. The song "Bills" is about the man asking for the woman to pay his bills.
@@koyuki90 I know but most people who hear the song don't get that part like the people who play "Every Breath You Take" at weddings
@@noeinroad7294 Bills is literally about a guy using her stuff and not paying for it..
@@borednerd2100 I know that. However a lot of people miss that part and assume she's just looking for someone to pay for her.
@@noeinroad7294 and you're perpetuating that misconception
My boyfriend and I both joke about being each other's sugar mama/daddy or being a stay at home mom/dad if we have children. But the thing is, we understand the expectations of being the one who doesn't/can't support the family/relationship financially. And we both know the expectations and duties "staying at home" entails. You gotta actually support the relationship and household because you're not bringing in anything other than that.
All jokes aside, we've agreed an a two income household with the best effort in the family structure. Because, although not equal in monetary value/child rearing, we still have to bring fair effort to the table.
He should work. Man not supposed to be home all the time
@@jollygoodgordon5580 you need to stop watching " how to be an alpha male" videos on youtube
@@AndrewB23 This Alpha male shit getting out of control, you dam near can’t live your life, for the sake of being an Alpha Male.
You're on the right path there with talking about it and planning the future. Whatever your decisions, shared goals and priorities are huge in a relationship.
@@jollygoodgordon5580 thank you for reinforcing gender stereotypes norms... Fucking douchbag
Now that's pure friendship. Shit was too funny.
Woah man... Don't you know they're not friends?! Business partners man... Business partners. 😲
I've said this before but they really are the best friends in a non-friend relationship. Aba and Preach are friend-fluid and have been before it was cool.
@@throwacnt7603 Nice!!
@@oneskillpoint4669 Exactly.
They have way to much chemistry to not be somewhat close on a personal level. I think they just say they arent friends just in case things go sour for whatever reason
At least Aba is letting her know she entitled in a nice way. Let this be Kevin Samuels and he would straight go to violence lol
Wtf are you doing
😂😂😂😂😂
Age and dress size? 😂
violence? speaking harshly is violence ? That's as bad as a woman claiming SA just because a man touched her on the shoulder
Kevin Samuels is 3 times divorced.
My sisters, brothers and I all know how to cook clean and fend for ourselves. Our Momma taught us all how to take care of self and home. 🔥🔥✊🏾 Love you Momma
When I was single I would always show up to dates ready to pay . Didn’t expect for my date to pay for my food. If they payed for my food I’d give the tip and buy the drinks. Idk why all these women feel entitled to free shit. If didn’t have money I wouldn’t go to the date lol . I was just raised this way. My dad always told me “if you don’t have money to go out DONT GO OUT. STAY THE FUCK HOME” 🤣. I would show up to dates natural cus I didn’t want men to think I was cat fishing them lmao 😂
Wish more were like you. Dad taught me the same thing with money. Don't have it don't do stuff. And natural look is WAY better looking than layers of make up, fake nasty nails, and shit.
@@FreeWorldSpirit313 fake nasty nails = cardi b like nails. Them long ass nails 😂
@@ic9459 nails looking like an eagle's foot
Same sis!! I get looked at like I’m crazy for thinking that.
When I went out with a woman I had no problem paying and I did it because I wanted to not because she felt I was obligated to. But if she wanted to pay for herself I wasn't going to argue.
“This your shit phone?!” Mans had all bases covered like he knew he was gonna throw his phone. That’s why I fucks with Preach yo
Hahaha that's why I do too lol
Me: "Hey, Chief?"
Chief: "THIS AIN'T IT, FAM!"
Me: "Just checking, thanks."
This is how we know y’all are really friends on the low. During the phone scene. Don’t play with our emotions there’s love there 😭🤣🤣 love y’all
Preach's face after he chucked the phone. 🤣
Lmfao!!!! Got me in tears over here. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
"If I go through your crib, your bathroom: Chernobyl"
I laughed.
Me too.
So many good quotes from this one.
It's a hard thing to admit at 24 years of age but I feel like you guys are giving me the guidance and life lessons I never had growing up without a dad, thank you for that, seriously 👍🏻
You need kevin samuels
@@mizkimo466 Kevin Samuels is all about "high value man" this "high value man" that. His entire channel is about "high value man" even though 99% of his viewers are not high value men. What exactly are you learning then? Him bashing people for having too high of a standard? Him pointing out how delusional some people are? That isn't learning that's just entertainment.
@@MsYas-lz2cg I don’t watch much of Kevin but from what I’ve seen he atleast use to give men advice before his show turned into a high value men debate thanks to the women who calls into his show
@@mizkimo466 aba and preach are great for men who lacked proper male role models to help us adjust to this world. Kevin Samuels is little more than an entertainer playing both sides because it profits him. He makes really good points but every now then he says stuff that are so asinine that it makes you really consider what his motives are. Like calling Jeannie Mai the ideal high value woman when everybody who watched aba and preach's videoes on her and the real knows for a fact that this couldn't be further from the truth.
@@MsYas-lz2cg well said
The phone argument had me in tears! "We have to make it equal!". I felt that coming from a somali family with 9 other siblings 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The issue is a lot of women out here leave their house and or apartment with a movie being played. They have the soundtrack, the actors and the key grip the best boy and everything, but no one else knows the movie is going on. That's their fantasy world where it makes sense to them because it's in the script. The issue is no one else knows that.
I'm really sorry but I have no idea what you mean, would you explain that a little more maybe?
True.
@@yatshie8717 he’s saying some women have watched too much sex and the city.
THIS! And this is why these damn rom com movies and Disney brainwashing is messing up women’s brains and sense of reality…
She legit sounded like a child. Not all women think like this(thank God)
Anyone else tired of women constantly bitching about equality then at every turn also bitching about men not paying for EVERYTHING, men not treating them like queens and so on. Adults shouldn't need to be told that they can't have both.
Preach!
This has nothing to do with the fight for equality. Gender inequalities in the workplace and gender expectations in dating are really not the same thing. Please stop mixing up simole things. Also for the most part women who fight for inequality aren't out here worried about who pays for a date and neither are the men eho help in this. If you dont believe in equality for the sexes then ok but be rest assured that gender equality is much bigger than all this dating BS.
Yeah because women making equality are the same women who look like that… good one
Also as the comment above explains there is far more serious inequality issues then who’s gonna pay on a date or even dating in general. The reaction if I turned up to a date with the same level of effort as a man… I would be recoiled from. I’ve already had comments from people about hair legs or whatever (when they really weren’t that hairy)- if I turned up to a date that way! Haha would be funny
Stop watching " how to be an alpha male" incel videos on TH-cam bud
@@AndrewB23 So you don't mind a woman using you for a free meal and entertainment?
I'm glad I'm married and don't have to worry about all this bull crap.
Hopefully it stays happily married. Married men get screwed over more than any of us...
@@therealalexmullins Thanks. 13 years strong.
Big mistake. Among the main reasons marriages fail, is because the spouse gets too comfortable , let herself/himself go and the initial deal is altered. Also marriage makes no sense in 2021 anyway.
Bruh don't listen to these ppl. If you're happily married then enjoy that. Good luck 🙂
I’m happy for you. Seeing all these comments and this attitude towards dating is concerning. Luckily I’ve never been asked to split the bill.
Getting free stuff isn’t always great. Went to AIT with a girl who already had a boyfriend, but was flirting with this other trainee. After one “date” he kept leaving her creepy video messages hinting he wanted to marry her and was stalking her (he did know she had a boyfriend back home). He’d bring her gifts of her favorite food/snacks to the barracks and was getting increasingly aggressive. She told me, “If he’s dumb enough to keep giving me free stuff, I’m going to take it.” I told her if she keeps taking; he’s going to think she’s interested/he has a chance and will keep stalking her. Lightbulb finally turned on for her and she left him alone. Free stuff is not worth your life, stop playing with men’s money.
She just wanted approval that she shouldn't have to pay while contributing very little.
i love how y’all laugh together man. great duo lmaoo
I've always said that I'm happy with a traditional woman, or a full blown modern independent woman.
The one thing I don't want to deal with, is a cherry picker. You can't have all the good parts, because that leaves me with all the bad parts.
Great point!
You could SHARE the good parts.
While youre paying what, the cable bill? She can plan a vacation for YALL where you still probably gotta pay for dinner yet she got you there and the room 😂😂😂
Or earn enough to allow a women with you to stay home. That sounds like a bad part , but ey, different strokes.
Same, just have good values...and keep yourself in decent shape and we're good!
Those women treat ice cream as dinner. They're lost without processed foods.
Exactly. A la carte equality or traditionalism buffet ain't gonna fly.
4:40 “i Sh0WEd UP” 👩🏽 GOT ME WEEAAKK😭🤣😆😂😂😂😂
The bar is so low that when she answered your questions honestly even when it contradicted her points I applauded her when it should just be the norm 🤦🏿♂️
You guys always have the dopest music for the outro. We need a playlist.
Please
The logic doesn’t make sense. Just say you want to be a sexualized housewife and move on.
Dude chilling and talking with y'all would have to be about the best blunt smoking session over
Went on a date with a female I met poolside. Asked her out and we went out for drinks and I paid the tab. After we left we went to a restaurant to get some food. When the waitress dropped off the tab she reached for it and said she would pay. I was pretty impressed by this, especially seeing the tab was for around $100. So I let her pay, as we were walking back to the apartment she was complaining that I was suppose to pay and shouldn’t have let her pay for the meal. I told that female “if you didn’t want to pay you shouldn’t have offered.” She was pissed 🤣 it was a win win. I got a free meal and picked up on some red flags 💪
I hate fake initiative test. It's such an immature concept like if you don't want to don't do it. No one is going take your choices away. Just expect the man to do it but don't take the initiative and then back out
@@mario125ww it’s childish but having that mentality is a red flag. It just means she’s going to try and purposely push your buttons in the future and your whole relationship will revolve around passing her tests. Like bitch, I can find ten more of you without having to play what’s on this bitches mind today 🤣
Nice. Some women are used to manipulating things to go their way. Bet she was shocked when it backfired. 😂
Damn $100 what did you order?
@@Sagefrakrobatik had a steak and a couple of Stella Artois. Basically an establishment that over charges
I really need to see if I'm dyslexic. I read "Pray for me because I look good"
Same
Nope you’re not the only one. I thought this too for a quick second lol 😂
I did too. 😬
That's what they say in their Sundays best
Yeah I did see that lol
The argument of them having to spend money for clothes so we should pay makes as much sense as I invite you for a dinner at my place but you need to pay for the plates that I've bought. Shiii
They know it makes no sense they are just trying to " justify" being treated a certain way.
@@xMckingwill Nope, they fully believe it.
@@StellarAudyssey Nah i said what i said they definitely understand otherwise they wouldn't deflect so easily just look at how she reacts when aba brings her back to the question.
Careful if you think they actually believe it means you have fallen for it already, stop believing they are that stupid trust me they are not. If she did truly believe it then it would be very easy to admit they should also pay because men also put time, effort, money into looking good for dates.
She wants to be treated certain way simple as that projecting it in such away is so they dont look bad.
@@xMckingwill Mate, the vast majority of vvomen fully believe the "social constructionist" propaganda. There are a few that are duplicitous (in this regard) as you say, but they're the minority... I'm out here every day dating mate, I see it in plain sight. They're one notch away from fully conditioned automatons.
@@StellarAudyssey yeah there are people like that sure but they are likely NOT the majority but the minority. Here is the issue the amount of women you have dated is no were near enough for you to reasonably or logically come to the conclusion that its the majority.
Again its not that they believe it its more that they want to accept it because it comes down to wanting to be treated a certain way, and refusing to give it up its simple as that you are over complicating things.
The instant you pin them down and actually ask them about it they will deflect ( in many cases of this they react the same way, right when you get to say "yes" they try and wiggle out of it). They want their cake and eat it too.
Not to mention the outfits they wear on a date with you most likely have been worn on other dates with other people. So by her logic she needs to offer a discount.
lol, true.
😂😂😂😂😂
"I'm never paying for a date" With attitude like that, she's lucky to actually get a date in the first place
Then busts out the onlyfans
She isn't even that physically attractive to begin with, and she's talking like that.
It’s the truth. If I’m paying that is not considered a date.
@@quesoqueso7598That’s normally the best option. Like I don’t agree with the analogy of calling it “cherry picking”, I think we’re all just trying to work out how to be courteous and respectful in the modern era
@@quesoqueso7598 Yes unfortunately there’s a lot of people out there that do manage to live in their own self indulgent delusional bubbles with no respect for anybody else. And it does take a lot of strength of character to not let people like that dissuade you from the person that you want to be. I find most dates generally fall on the traditional curtesy of hosting (and I think that there’s a lot of agreement in society about what is expected of a host and of a guest)....lol Unfortunately coming back to being ‘courteous and respectful’, or the lack there of, all we have to do is look up people’s wedding horror stories of bride/groomzillas and disrespectful guess to find out how warped that concept has now become.
I've always been taught the person who picks where the date is offers to pay just in case they pick somewhere out of the other person's budget to try to avoid any awkwardness.
So go to Burger King and everything should be fine?
Don't ask someone on a date if you don't have a place in mind, it just complicates things. I was taught whoever offers to take someone on the date ultimately pays.
@@eko7030 What is a date sometimes I get confused when I hear dumb people talk about dates all o a sudden a date is been describe as something that money as to be spend on question is what would u call this if I to someone out one evening to sit and talk at a beach for half hour?
Women spend time and money on their skin, eyelashes, hair, nails, ect for the same reason that they talk to men for days and weeks with no intention of going out with them. It's an EGO BOOST.
T-R-U-E !!!
...or to outcompete the other women if there is a man they actually want. it is for THEIR benefit, not for the men's benefit.
@@theoverunderthinker white knight … he’s not talking about all woman … just these types of woman
@@CalamariZander I don't think he was white knighting. Pretty sure he was adding to the criticism.
Or it’s because women have a biological clock- men don’t look your way if you aren’t like that.
Lmao! This video was a GOOD one, when preach threw Aba’s phone that reaction was pure gold! I watch it 4 times
The tragedy is that she's good the way she is, such a pretty smile, eyes, all that, shes good. Good. Just her expectations are wack.
Would she say that about you? You guys need to stop simping, it is why these ladies get arrogant and think they are better than you.
@@tipsandtricks6071 I think your definition of simping is off.
Telling her she looks good the way she does is not simping. If she can not appreciate that remark and tries to make you work to give her that simple compliment then GET OUT. Let a guy with lower standards work with that.
@@clyde._ it’s not. We need to put our foot down. Personality trumps looks.
True....,but she's ignorant an has low self esteem..... she'll never admit it through...
@@tipsandtricks6071 facts.....feeds there arrogance
When y’all got rolling about the phone throw I really felt there are some inside jokes I was jealous not to be in on. Fun episode, loving the show.
A man would pay for your character, not your characteristics. I've met a lot of beautiful liabilities in my relationship adventures.
2:33 I LOST MY SHIT...that made me laugh soo hard people living in next door came out to see wtf is happening
I'll be frank - this woman was trying to play you. She was just trying to see if she could get you to simp for her. She thinks you're cute and wants your attention.
Yep
The way she was smiling, I think you're right!
Hi Frank, I'm dad.
Shhheeessshhhhh😬😬😬😬😬😬
That throwing the phone part was hilarious, y’all’s chemistry is too funny 😂🤣 too bad y’all are not friends.
Huh?
@@pomme_paille they’re not friends. They said so themselves, there’s even a video titled “WE’RE NOT FRIENDS” I believe. Aba said something along the lines of they have great work chemistry, but outside of that they’re not exactly the same type of people although I believe they’re definitely friends, as they’ve been doing this for years, went on plane flights and visited dangerous countries gotten into dangerous incidents together, like the one they stated in their recent cartel roadblock video, and Preach saying Aba has met his parents and he knows what they’re like.
@@pomme_paille yeah it's a little confusing they apparently arnt friends just business partners or colleagues but if you have watched as long as me they are also friends, kind of lol I see this episode wasn't so friendly but hey they always work it out & carry on so long as they are happy I suppose.
Why would you care of or not they're friends
Just enjoy the content homie.
They’re full of shit on that one. I get what they’re saying by business first but they’re definitely friends second at least.
2:45 mins and it’s has become one of my fave videos, he just threw the phone
That's a meme right there
It's just so sad that women no longer go on dates for the sake of getting to know someone, but to see what they can get ftom someone. They rob themselves of so much and they don't even know it.
thats why im not going on dates. its smash and dash time
Even when my mom didn’t make a lot of money she was like “ nah I can pay” she told me she didn’t like to not seem to have money. But she was so used to paying for dudes that my dad and her fought over the bill. I think that’s good that both of the dates wanna pay. I think that’s how it should be.
Translation: she wants a traditional man without being a traditional woman.
Brilliant way of putting this. I’ve literally heard someone say “I’m a feminist but use sexism to my advantage”. It’s completely counter intuitive
Are you traditional man? 😩🥺😝😫
@@GumBeatingTV 🎯 bingo!
@@bigfoot477 dude, what?
The major problem with both western men and women is that they want to be traditional or modern only where it suits them, in Africa though we both go to work, we as men understand that we have to take care of our women, paying for dates providing a comfortable life for our women and children etc and women know that they still have to take care of us by cooking, cleaning, washing and ironing our clothing etc. we still do our traditional roles though we both wake up and go to work
This is so true I was working until my husband and I planned to start a family and he understood I wasn't able to go to work and have to look after our child so he as the man gave me an allowance . I still do my traditional roles of cooking , cleaning and I respect him as the head of the house. As Africans we still practice traditional roles .
@@sisiphomabinza698 that's a good thing my sister, like it's always said on Twitter, SA men and women act like they are not traditional but walk into their lives and you'll be shocked
I mean, if you both like it then that is absolutely fine. I personally don't like to clean and wash and iron someone's clothes. It's waste of time, if I had to do all this then I would rather be alone and keep my time?
@@joannawinters6592my husband doesn't force me to clean or iron , he even suggested we get a maid if housework is overwhelming but it's not thanks to technology there are dishwashers and washing machines which makes cleaning easier so I don't mind doing it on my own. Infact I've enjoyed being a stay at home mom I have more time on my hands compare to working long day shifts , getting stuck in traffic and coming back home exhausted. I even realised I can finally do my CFA board exams now that I have more time on my hands being at home.
@@obakengtaje1759 I got off twitter last year because it's toxic and deleted IG aswell there's too many false ideologies being praised and pushed and not to forget the narcissism on the platforms where you can't have a sensible debate without someone calling out you have less followers so your point is invalid. I'm 28 but sometimes I feel like an older person because I don't even listen to today's pop music it's way too sexual and vulgar for my liking. There's nothing wrong with practicing traditional roles . And what I've noticed some women who don't want to practice traditional roles still want to date / marry a higher value man that's traditional and provide for them , that's unfair.
Women that refuse to EVER pay for a date or anything else doesn’t deserve to even be dating. They deserve to eat alone. Cmon it’s just rude to expect to be paid for 24/7. Men aren’t wallets.
T h i s
Women aren't objects either but hear we are?
GIRL ARE YOU SERIOUS? ARE WE MASCULINAS NOW? THE ONLY FACT WOMEN WOULD DO THAT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE PICKMES OR THEY WANT TO "IMPRESS" A DUSTY WHO DOESN'T LIKE HER, BECAUSE LETS BE HONEST, A MAN WHO LOVES A WOMAN WILL MAKE EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MAKE HER HAPPY, IF HE DOESN'T THEN HE DOES NOT WANT YOU OR SEE YOU AS THE PRIZE, PERIOD. IT IS IN A MAN'S NATURE TO PROVIDE, THAT IS HIS MASCULINE NEED, AND YOU ARE EMASCULATING HIM, AGAIN, A MAN WHO FEELS LIKE A REAL MAN WILL TREAT HIS WOMAN LIKE THE PRIZE IF HE LOVES HER.
@@Lanafox1020 prize? Like an object you mean? Well well well... 👀👀👀
@@abigailowusu4866 it’s here … not hear… just had to get my pet peeve out.. ok thx bye