3 Post Starter Solenoid versus 4 Post Solenoid. Making a 3 into a 4 post!

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  • @jacobwagner5312
    @jacobwagner5312 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Excellent video I understood everything you explained finally makes total sense now and your flowers are on point sir! Lol

  • @rw3dog
    @rw3dog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great explanation. I always seem to have to do the opposite, make a 4 post into a 3 post. Just making a little jumper wire from the side post to the mounting bolt to ground it….

    • @KensSmallEngineRepair
      @KensSmallEngineRepair  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great idea Ralph! Never thought of going from a 4 to 3 post!

    • @subbassick
      @subbassick ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that how you do it? My deckboat had a 4 post! The new starter only has a 3 post! I am so lost what to do!

  • @wbreedlove6684
    @wbreedlove6684 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    On JD x310 4 post solenoid
    If u “jump” the solenoid to start (key turned to Start, temp connection from sol power-in terminal to sol power to starter terminal, then remove that temp connection when engine starts - At that point any preexisting safety switches are still active for continued operation of mower.
    Correct??

    • @KensSmallEngineRepair
      @KensSmallEngineRepair  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Theoretically yes, since all the safety connections add up to provide ground to the 4th terminal would have to be intact in order for the solenoid to operate, either by switch or by jumper. The safety's control the ground to the solenoid, without all being satisfied, the solenoid will not operate.

  • @keithbarnum9470
    @keithbarnum9470 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mine looks just like yours, but the difference is that I have top and bottom posts and one sticking out directly towards me... I guess you would say it's in the center?!!?! Can you help me out here, buddy? This is racking my brain right now, I just wish mine looked exactly, and not just, like yours!😭😭😭

    • @KensSmallEngineRepair
      @KensSmallEngineRepair  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      5 pole Solenoids have an extra terminal that will momentarily provide a full voltage to an ignition coil to aid in starting. Mainly used on old tractors and battery/points ignition systems. It bypasses the ballast resistor to give max voltage to start an engine then cuts out and allows the ignition switch power to go through the ballast resistor lowering the voltage to keep the coil from heating up too much. Hope this helps.

  • @cadensteinhausen2966
    @cadensteinhausen2966 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video! You explained it very well

  • @warderic
    @warderic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you use a four prong over a three prong

    • @KensSmallEngineRepair
      @KensSmallEngineRepair  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes. Just make sure it’s a true 4 prong and not a Ford solenoid. A Ford solenoid uses the fourth prong to put full 12 volts to the terminal. You want a four prong that uses the two small terminals to power the solenoid, one is ground the other is switched positive 12v

  • @subbassick
    @subbassick ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My boat old omc / gm starter had 4 post. The New starter has 3 post. There is a way to still use the 3 post? Thankyou!!

    • @KensSmallEngineRepair
      @KensSmallEngineRepair  ปีที่แล้ว

      The 4th post is usually used for safety switches like a neutral safety switch. I would get a 4 post solenoid to be safe.

  • @journeyeleveneleven3693
    @journeyeleveneleven3693 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ty ❤

  • @michaeldemers2716
    @michaeldemers2716 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am having a little trouble with an old tractor. It was doing nothing and I changed the Solenoid and now it is turning over but no spark. Would it be a bad safety Switch. My Dad wants me to cut them all and wire them together bypassing the Switches. It's probably the plugs wires and coil in my opinion.

    • @KensSmallEngineRepair
      @KensSmallEngineRepair  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What is the tractor brand and model?

    • @michaeldemers2716
      @michaeldemers2716 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KensSmallEngineRepair Old Roper

    • @KensSmallEngineRepair
      @KensSmallEngineRepair  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaeldemers2716 the model of Roper tractor?

    • @michaeldemers2716
      @michaeldemers2716 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@KensSmallEngineRepair IDK. But this morning I got a premonition it was the points. I may take a fine sandpaper to it and gap them with a matchbook.

    • @michaeldemers2716
      @michaeldemers2716 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KensSmallEngineRepair I definitely did the Solenoid right. I double checked. It's something else.

  • @pattayperformance
    @pattayperformance ปีที่แล้ว

    To convert from 4 Post to 3
    Why not just hook up ground from the safety switches to where it mounts between the actual solenoid/chassis frame. If you feel its not a good ground, why not run another wire from a good ground point back to the solenoid and tie to safety switch ground?

  • @StephenWyke-eg6hg
    @StephenWyke-eg6hg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    THANKS, i did this mode exactly as you said with adding a wire to a bolt for ground and it worked perfect on my dirt bike😎👍👌

  • @JimmyCandFriends
    @JimmyCandFriends 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool info Ken I think this will solve an issue i've had with my 79 Aarons tractor.👍

  • @RaleysSmallEngines
    @RaleysSmallEngines 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bout time I saw those Mums in full bloom!!! Looks awesome. Yup don't bypass safety switches they are there for a reason. Good job Ken

  • @ethansengineering911
    @ethansengineering911 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much I couldn't find any other videos that explained it as well as you did

  • @butler386
    @butler386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great information. Now I know and understand the difference. Thanks for the video.

  • @KJL49
    @KJL49 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video , finally

  • @Talisgold
    @Talisgold 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great explanation thank you sir

  • @Turningwrenches85
    @Turningwrenches85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good information ken

  • @HobbyMotorDK
    @HobbyMotorDK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good one Ken - very well explained 😃

    • @KensSmallEngineRepair
      @KensSmallEngineRepair  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you liked it. There are always simple solutions to many problems

    • @HobbyMotorDK
      @HobbyMotorDK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KensSmallEngineRepair I often struggle with electrical repairs - so nice to have it explained in a way that I could understand. Thanks Ken.

  • @chadlambert3186
    @chadlambert3186 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video

  • @Farm_fab
    @Farm_fab 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ken, I bought a 4 wire solenoid for use as a glow plug relay on my Nissan Hardbody truck. I bought a grey market engine, and it bolted up to my transmission, but I had no glow plug relay, so I used the aforementioned relay as you discussed, and it worked great. Still have the engine, but I sold the truck. It was only 67hp, but it might be good on a tractor. I bought a turbo diesel engine for parts, but it's going in storage too. That turbo will give me a whopping 75 hp on the other engine.

  • @WisdomofGod4u
    @WisdomofGod4u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful

  • @dgaming8661
    @dgaming8661 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you such a very simple explaination for the 3 post

  • @henrymurawskibigdogrepair
    @henrymurawskibigdogrepair 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great tip Ken

  • @anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204
    @anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good vid

    • @KensSmallEngineRepair
      @KensSmallEngineRepair  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching. What isn’t clear? A model train guy such as yourself should be well versed in electrical theory!!

  • @patriciaculver9331
    @patriciaculver9331 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the colors of the wires that hook to the solenoid. And where do they hook up to the solenoid

    • @KensSmallEngineRepair
      @KensSmallEngineRepair  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The wire color varies based on the brand and model of tractor the solenoid is on. Do you have a specific brand and model? I can look up to see whether it uses a 3 or 4 post and assist you from there

  • @SAMOS-ts5vy
    @SAMOS-ts5vy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Genius

  • @bahama_blue
    @bahama_blue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got a 1984 Ford yard tractor I’m rewiring. This helped a lot thanks!