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from what i understand and seen people talking, you can cancel crownless' transformation right at the beginning without needing to land a single hit, because you get the buff at the start and that's what matters when choosing him over dreamless
If the net gain is less than 5% damage increase. I personally would not consider investing into rolling a crownless echo if you already have a really good dreamless echo.
Yep, this is true. Crownless transformation can be cancelled and you'll gain 19.5% Havoc DMG Bonus and 12% Resonance Skill DMG bonus right after even if it is cancelled. So yeah, for Camellya as a selfish damage dealer, Crownless is better than Dreamless
Looking at her kit, the fact she needs to be on the field for a longer time than most, and the fact that her Outro skill does damage rather than just give a buff to the incoming, it wouldn't surprise me if the Lingering Tunes set with 2 x Havoc 3 cost echoes works out as equalin power to the Havoc set, providing an alternative option to crownless/dreamless setups.
As much as some people would have mixed feelings if the Havoc set isn't BiS for her, I think it would actually be a good thing if Lingering Tunes was actually best or extremely close in performance. Pretty sure everyone has a ton of Lingering echoes lying around because it's almost always inferior to elemental echo sets, so a chance to use them and not feel like you're missing out on performance would be amazing. Also I always seem to get good rolls on that set and garbage rolls on sets I actually want lmao, maybe I'll have a cracked Camellya. Well, assuming I can win the 50/50 :,)
3:20 I feel like her Liberation will actually be a massive part of her gameplay, since she has 150% bonus ER on all her attacks outside budding state. So you would use the Liberation, do your attacks, and by the time you get to budding state you'll probably have it ready again, especially since she only needs 125 energy. And since it takes two attack combos to drain her forte gauge, I would probably be swapping to Sanhua and getting her outro right before Camellya hits max concerto so you can get that Basic buff on her Ephemeral and budding state. The outro lasts 14s so you wont really be able to take full advantage of it for her budding state if you do it before her entire attack cycle. That said, you could also probably do it at the start then swap and do it again before concerto is full to have the buff for the entire rotation.
Yeah you're right. Sorry I downplayed the liberation a bit too much. What I meant is that it doesn't do anything beyond damage, do use it when it's available.
Good analysis. I'm going to give it a few days and try her for myself. I'm really hoping she's good with Havoc Rover - that's who I am building right now.
I'm SOOOOOOO ready to get this sussy bundle of mental distortion 🤣❤️ And I'm getting her weapon too. All guaranteed. The question remains.. how lucky will I be in getting early sequences on her
So what are your thoughts between sanhua vs danjin for her? Personally I’m leaning towards sanhua right now but I’ve got her at s6 and danjin only s2, but maybe I’ll have more copies after pulling for Camellya we’ll see
I'm also in the same boat, as my Sanhua is s6, and Danjin is s2. If you're using Sanhua, then most of the damage is coming from Camellya, however if you're using Danjin, it's more of a dual effort. Sanhua will buff her total damage by alot more, but a well build Danjin can potentially contribute more. I'll be using Sanhua, because it feels more smooth I feel.
Keep in mind Danjin's outro buff is only 23% havoc deepen while Sanhua is 38% basic attack deepen. Unless you have a really stacked Danjin (+ quick swap tech w/ her to be explored) or use Sanhua with Encore for another side, I'd recommend Sanhua probably. 20% atk bonus on S6 Sanhua is also nice, but well Danjin also has it at S6
just got calcharo when i was blindly pulling for jiyan, but yeah... seems i will main spectro rover now also hope we can have more pulls till end of the year (event last till 2025) so yeah... glad i got echoes for her used on havoc rover
Danjin would be better, but use who you're more comfortable with, because they are very similar in strength for Camellya. Danjins s6 is adding a teamwide 20% atk buff however, so thats a decent plus.
Sanhua likely wont be her best partner for a while....unless you are talking about F2P options....the leaks for 2.0 show a 5 star havoc sub dps who buffs havoc and basic attack damage
Crownless is better because you straight up get the havoc dmg bonus without needing to finish off the animation of the echo. Dreamless takes longer to execute and the 50% dmg bonus only works on Rover so crownless is the better choice. It is just like using tempest memphis vs thundering memphis. Tempest memphis is the superior choice. Tempest memphis allows you to swap off, getting the dmg bonus immediately. It also finishes the animation although your character is already swapped off. I am not sure if crownless finishes the attack if Camellya is swapped off. If it is, dreamless is just bad choice. Really bad choice. It is a no brain Crownless>Dreamless.
You can't just swap off Tempest. You still need to attack again to get the second hit as it does not happen automatically, and the second is where you get the buff.
@@Rappamain Crownless is, however, better for anyone that is not Rover, especially Camellya since you can dash out of it then immediately use your skill mid-air.
can you rate my pre farm on camellya? its on danjin btw Havoc dmg bonus:70.0 Er: 109.2 crit rate: 43.1 crit damage :312.1 sword: changli's signature (blazing brilliance) using dreamless, two havoc dreadmane, glacio prism, havoc prism, all on crit rate crit damage all my maximum materials and shell credit's check i skipped the others bc my danjin is on level 60 so it ruins it kinda and all my echoes are on sun-sinking eclipse
As Eevak says, I agree. One thing to note tho, you can't use two havoc dreadmanes. Both will not count for the 5 piece set. Unfortunately you're going to have a raise a different 3 cost echo. Great job so far tho! I'm still missing one piece myself 😔
Ult not significant? I already calculated my Camellya build will hit 117k dmg with no liberation outro buff😂. Weaker than Jinhsi ult but still a large multiplier
Yeah, its definitely worth using. What I mean is, it is only used there for damage, and has no additional effects. Definitely similar to Jinhsi. Plus, you'd never want to skip that animation...
She is the most damage bonus skewed character in the game, all 3 versions of her skill do basic attack damage, so only her liberation and her normal form charged attacks do not benefit. This means getting basic attack damage bonus is super rewarding as pretty much everything is getting a damage increase
Thanks! 88 cr /239 cdmg is technically better. If you are using Shorekeeper, you can consider the set with more crit damage, since shorekeeper gives a decent amount of crit rate.
if youre playing with shorekeeper probably the 65cr one. id go for the higher consistency if playing with verina, probably. though both will probably be fine. im not sure which support is actually better for her. if youre not outro with her into shorekeeper it means shorekeeper doesnt get her intro attack and she also has to take even longer on field. Verina can get in and out significantly faster under those conditions.
@@VoidEnigma thank you so much for the reply I have shorekeeper so I'll probably go with the crit damage one But I will probably test both on release and see which one performs better
@@johns783 that's a really good point actually I guess we need to test those different lineups to see which one performs better But I would say maybe shorekeeper sanhwa camellya works well because of sanhwa short uptime that will make up for some lost time on shorekeeper
Excuse me? With all respect and i know that this is only your opinion but how is dreamless better than crownless when she’s a hypercarry dps which required high on field time,with crownless you can just turn it on and dodge and gain free 12,5% havoc damage,why bother to swap dreamless when it doesnt even deal that much damage cause camellya isnt a resonance skill user?
It does come down to preference. Either way that 12.5% havoc bonus is a decent boost, but it's not that major in the grand scheme of things once all of the buffs are factored in. It is technically her better option, but I like dreamless because it can kill of smaller enemies and juggle them (and I totally don't feel like raising a crownless echo from scratch). The clear time may change by a few seconds, so it's not a big difference
@ so basically you are also saying that crownless is only slightly better and thus if you already have a decent dreamless then just go for her instead of farming for a new one which i totally agree on! I also have a decent dreamless and also does not planning on farming another crownless from scratch so i completely agree with you on that but still,the way you put it in the video make it sound like dreamless is a better option overall which might confuse people if they encounter other content creators who saying that the crownless is better,i think next time you should put up the pros and cons of each echo and put it like “if you have a decent dreamless then there’s no need to farm for crownless,however the crownless overall is still slightly better than dreamless so if you havent prefarm for camellya yet then you should go for crownless” instead of claiming the dreamless is better,anyway this is also just my opinion,who know? Maybe when she’s launched the dreamless is actually the better option maybe? (the video was really detailed and easy to understand especially her mechanic and how she work,keep up the good work!)
I am probably full minority here but I expected so much more cool kit or attack animations. She is the n20 char that spends half her time in the air and colors the whole screen with flashes to a point that you cant see what you are doing. She could have been so much cooler with vines that grab small enemies and suck the lives out of them. or in case of bosses grow vines on their body that tear parts of them. her attacks should be also more whip like and graby like in the custcene. Ima gonna skip her and play havoc rover or Danjin.
Funny you say that. She did actually originally have an attack that grappled enemies and pulled them towards her or her towards them. So, the fact they changed it from that means they won't add it in again.
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Just 3 days.... just 3 days...
feels like 3month
@@yoloroki1329 i literally told my friends this feels like the longest week of my life LOL
For someone 4
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from what i understand and seen people talking, you can cancel crownless' transformation right at the beginning without needing to land a single hit, because you get the buff at the start and that's what matters when choosing him over dreamless
Also, buffing camellya’s dmg instead of just doing the echo dmg is much better. Dreamless is only good on rover.
If the net gain is less than 5% damage increase. I personally would not consider investing into rolling a crownless echo if you already have a really good dreamless echo.
Ye true but i do have them both with double crit and atk so ig crownless is better@@DeJaVu804
@@tieAcherry101 And Danjin for double dreamlesss
Yep, this is true. Crownless transformation can be cancelled and you'll gain 19.5% Havoc DMG Bonus and 12% Resonance Skill DMG bonus right after even if it is cancelled.
So yeah, for Camellya as a selfish damage dealer, Crownless is better than Dreamless
phantom dreamless goes perfectly with Camellya. Sadly I wasn't playing during that time
I like ur pfp
Its gonna come back for sure
Appreciate the Nier Automata ost in background
i'm so so happy with how much wuwa devs are learning. i think Camellya is the poster child of their innovation as a previously smaller company.
3 days until camellya release🤩🥰
i love your narrative so much. it reminds me of those league of legends character showcases
Looking at her kit, the fact she needs to be on the field for a longer time than most, and the fact that her Outro skill does damage rather than just give a buff to the incoming, it wouldn't surprise me if the Lingering Tunes set with 2 x Havoc 3 cost echoes works out as equalin power to the Havoc set, providing an alternative option to crownless/dreamless setups.
if that happens, rip my 2 weeks of consistently farming havoc tacet XDDD
@@Smilehp7 Nahh For real. Imma start tweaking if her BiS becomes Lingering tunes instead of havoc which i farmed for a month
As much as some people would have mixed feelings if the Havoc set isn't BiS for her, I think it would actually be a good thing if Lingering Tunes was actually best or extremely close in performance. Pretty sure everyone has a ton of Lingering echoes lying around because it's almost always inferior to elemental echo sets, so a chance to use them and not feel like you're missing out on performance would be amazing. Also I always seem to get good rolls on that set and garbage rolls on sets I actually want lmao, maybe I'll have a cracked Camellya. Well, assuming I can win the 50/50 :,)
chat i joined wuwa yesterday, i NEED HER
hope you win the 50/50 !!!
Welcome, i hope you get her😊
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@@saminribab8569 tysm!!!
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lets gooo almost time. great guide thank you!
0:32 me too bro, me too
I thought I misheard him, then turned on the caption, and damn I heard him correctly😂
Thank you for the guide, very excited for her!
Am surprised no youtuber has gotten her early access
thanks for this guide! Now I know which teams she can be in.
The bgm is the cherry on top ❤
3:20 I feel like her Liberation will actually be a massive part of her gameplay, since she has 150% bonus ER on all her attacks outside budding state. So you would use the Liberation, do your attacks, and by the time you get to budding state you'll probably have it ready again, especially since she only needs 125 energy.
And since it takes two attack combos to drain her forte gauge, I would probably be swapping to Sanhua and getting her outro right before Camellya hits max concerto so you can get that Basic buff on her Ephemeral and budding state. The outro lasts 14s so you wont really be able to take full advantage of it for her budding state if you do it before her entire attack cycle. That said, you could also probably do it at the start then swap and do it again before concerto is full to have the buff for the entire rotation.
Yeah you're right. Sorry I downplayed the liberation a bit too much. What I meant is that it doesn't do anything beyond damage, do use it when it's available.
Good analysis.
I'm going to give it a few days and try her for myself.
I'm really hoping she's good with Havoc Rover - that's who I am building right now.
Same
You'll prob end up just taking Rover's build and throwing it on camellya. They likely need to much field time each to play together
I'm SOOOOOOO ready to get this sussy bundle of mental distortion 🤣❤️
And I'm getting her weapon too. All guaranteed.
The question remains.. how lucky will I be in getting early sequences on her
Good luck!!
NieR osts
Great intro.
We got a full guide before her release already 😭🙏
That’s common with all characters
We all need this too,that's why is exist🤭
So what are your thoughts between sanhua vs danjin for her? Personally I’m leaning towards sanhua right now but I’ve got her at s6 and danjin only s2, but maybe I’ll have more copies after pulling for Camellya we’ll see
I'm also in the same boat, as my Sanhua is s6, and Danjin is s2.
If you're using Sanhua, then most of the damage is coming from Camellya, however if you're using Danjin, it's more of a dual effort. Sanhua will buff her total damage by alot more, but a well build Danjin can potentially contribute more.
I'll be using Sanhua, because it feels more smooth I feel.
Keep in mind Danjin's outro buff is only 23% havoc deepen while Sanhua is 38% basic attack deepen. Unless you have a really stacked Danjin (+ quick swap tech w/ her to be explored) or use Sanhua with Encore for another side, I'd recommend Sanhua probably.
20% atk bonus on S6 Sanhua is also nice, but well Danjin also has it at S6
All my pulls for her
just got calcharo when i was blindly pulling for jiyan, but yeah... seems i will main spectro rover now
also hope we can have more pulls till end of the year (event last till 2025) so yeah...
glad i got echoes for her used on havoc rover
I’m praying I get her early bc I’m 10 pity and 20 pulls😭 on a 50 50 as well😢
It’s all over the screen
Azalea is so beautiful.
Come home, Magnolia!
I want to skip i need to skip but i said the same for jiyan and now i have him lvl 90 i am my own worst enemy.
prepare for drainage when camellya arrives in a few days...god help us all
I CANT FIX HER, THERE IS NOTHING TO FIX
Is her ultimate one shot?
I have 0 intention of pulling her, but your videos are great for when I’m eating 😂
Haha, glad I can be part of snack time!
I only got rc 1 sanhua but got rc6 dancing which one should I pair her with?
Highly depends on your preference, but if you're up for using a high risk high reward playstyle, then Danjin all the way.
Danjin S6 or Sanhua S4 as the preferred partner?
Danjin would be better, but use who you're more comfortable with, because they are very similar in strength for Camellya. Danjins s6 is adding a teamwide 20% atk buff however, so thats a decent plus.
can Camellya dominate me instead?
Sanhua likely wont be her best partner for a while....unless you are talking about F2P options....the leaks for 2.0 show a 5 star havoc sub dps who buffs havoc and basic attack damage
hoping to win 50 50, as I want to dance with her
Crownless is better because you straight up get the havoc dmg bonus without needing to finish off the animation of the echo.
Dreamless takes longer to execute and the 50% dmg bonus only works on Rover so crownless is the better choice.
It is just like using tempest memphis vs thundering memphis. Tempest memphis is the superior choice. Tempest memphis allows you to swap off, getting the dmg bonus immediately. It also finishes the animation although your character is already swapped off.
I am not sure if crownless finishes the attack if Camellya is swapped off. If it is, dreamless is just bad choice. Really bad choice. It is a no brain Crownless>Dreamless.
You can't just swap off Tempest. You still need to attack again to get the second hit as it does not happen automatically, and the second is where you get the buff.
You can quick swap of dream less and crown less barley buffs her
@@Rappamain Crownless is, however, better for anyone that is not Rover, especially Camellya since you can dash out of it then immediately use your skill mid-air.
question:
zhezhi or sanhua?
Definitely Sanhua. Zhezhi's outro skill buffs resonance skill damage, which isnt useful at all for Camellya.
can you rate my pre farm on camellya? its on danjin btw
Havoc dmg bonus:70.0
Er: 109.2
crit rate: 43.1
crit damage :312.1
sword: changli's signature (blazing brilliance)
using dreamless, two havoc dreadmane, glacio prism, havoc prism, all on crit rate crit damage
all my maximum materials and shell credit's check
i skipped the others bc my danjin is on level 60 so it ruins it kinda
and all my echoes are on sun-sinking eclipse
Crits too low , u must change either ur 4 cost echo to crit , or get camellyas signature other than that ur pre farm is good 👍
@@Eevaks Thank youuu
As Eevak says, I agree. One thing to note tho, you can't use two havoc dreadmanes. Both will not count for the 5 piece set. Unfortunately you're going to have a raise a different 3 cost echo.
Great job so far tho! I'm still missing one piece myself 😔
@@VoidEnigma thank you i replaced one havoc dreadmane to a roseshroom
1 day left ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
Ult not significant? I already calculated my Camellya build will hit 117k dmg with no liberation outro buff😂. Weaker than Jinhsi ult but still a large multiplier
Yeah, its definitely worth using. What I mean is, it is only used there for damage, and has no additional effects. Definitely similar to Jinhsi.
Plus, you'd never want to skip that animation...
I hate that her signature us needed. I gonna skip because of that. Im guaranteed and im interested in the rinascita characters
She is the most damage bonus skewed character in the game, all 3 versions of her skill do basic attack damage, so only her liberation and her normal form charged attacks do not benefit. This means getting basic attack damage bonus is super rewarding as pretty much everything is getting a damage increase
No, her heavy attack is also considered Basic Attack as part of her inherent skills. So it is ONLY Liberation that is not Basic Attack.
@XenoWars even better. She benefits more from her weapon than any other character and there signatures thus far
@@mortalkomment7954the best part is that I don't think it's as necessary as jinshi and her weapon says alot about the other options
This video was really helpful! thank you!
But I have a question: (65cr / 284cd) or (88cr / 239cd)? (I have been prefarming echoes for eternity lmao)
Thanks!
88 cr /239 cdmg is technically better. If you are using Shorekeeper, you can consider the set with more crit damage, since shorekeeper gives a decent amount of crit rate.
if youre playing with shorekeeper probably the 65cr one. id go for the higher consistency if playing with verina, probably. though both will probably be fine. im not sure which support is actually better for her. if youre not outro with her into shorekeeper it means shorekeeper doesnt get her intro attack and she also has to take even longer on field. Verina can get in and out significantly faster under those conditions.
@@VoidEnigma thank you so much for the reply
I have shorekeeper so I'll probably go with the crit damage one
But I will probably test both on release and see which one performs better
@@johns783 that's a really good point actually
I guess we need to test those different lineups to see which one performs better
But I would say maybe shorekeeper sanhwa camellya works well because of sanhwa short uptime that will make up for some lost time on shorekeeper
Excuse me? With all respect and i know that this is only your opinion but how is dreamless better than crownless when she’s a hypercarry dps which required high on field time,with crownless you can just turn it on and dodge and gain free 12,5% havoc damage,why bother to swap dreamless when it doesnt even deal that much damage cause camellya isnt a resonance skill user?
It does come down to preference. Either way that 12.5% havoc bonus is a decent boost, but it's not that major in the grand scheme of things once all of the buffs are factored in. It is technically her better option, but I like dreamless because it can kill of smaller enemies and juggle them (and I totally don't feel like raising a crownless echo from scratch). The clear time may change by a few seconds, so it's not a big difference
@ so basically you are also saying that crownless is only slightly better and thus if you already have a decent dreamless then just go for her instead of farming for a new one which i totally agree on! I also have a decent dreamless and also does not planning on farming another crownless from scratch so i completely agree with you on that but still,the way you put it in the video make it sound like dreamless is a better option overall which might confuse people if they encounter other content creators who saying that the crownless is better,i think next time you should put up the pros and cons of each echo and put it like “if you have a decent dreamless then there’s no need to farm for crownless,however the crownless overall is still slightly better than dreamless so if you havent prefarm for camellya yet then you should go for crownless” instead of claiming the dreamless is better,anyway this is also just my opinion,who know? Maybe when she’s launched the dreamless is actually the better option maybe? (the video was really detailed and easy to understand especially her mechanic and how she work,keep up the good work!)
Thanks! You're right, I'll be sure to explain it better next time. I really appreciate it!
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If you mean the codes, it’s only a one time use…first come first serve.
I am probably full minority here but I expected so much more cool kit or attack animations.
She is the n20 char that spends half her time in the air and colors the whole screen with flashes to a point that you cant see what you are doing.
She could have been so much cooler with vines that grab small enemies and suck the lives out of them. or in case of bosses grow vines on their body that tear parts of them.
her attacks should be also more whip like and graby like in the custcene.
Ima gonna skip her and play havoc rover or Danjin.
That's pretty cool, so say that to the devs. Share your ideas and maybe they'll add it in some other character, if they see your feedback.
Funny you say that. She did actually originally have an attack that grappled enemies and pulled them towards her or her towards them. So, the fact they changed it from that means they won't add it in again.
@@XenoWars sad
Lets go im first
1:00 does it also includes heavy attack dmg bonus being converted into basic attack?
If you have heavy attack bonus on echoes or buffs, it wont buff Camellya's damage. Only Basic Attack dmg bonuses will be counted.