Many NBA players believe Kyrie is the best scorer of all time. JR Smith broke it down perfectly on a podcast "He can do it with either hand, he can shoot left hand, right hand, he can shoot mid range, he can shoot 3s, spot ups, off the dribble...He has the best handles we've ever seen, He's the best finisher under the basket we've ever seen by far it's not even close. The spin on his left hand, right hand. Free throw shooting. He's a 50/40/90 dude damn near every year. The only reason why he's not is because the shots he takes are tough shots. There's nobody creatively on the basketball floor that can get any shot they want better than him. Idgaf if there's 4 people guarding him, 5 people guarding him, it don't matter."
@@BoosterGoldEarth6 Don't get inflated stats confused with ethical hooping. If a car is the fastest car we've ever seen but didn't compete in enough races does that mean it's no longer the fastest car?
I understand what Jeff is saying. Kyrie pound for pound one of the most skilled players to touch a ball. There isn’t one thing he can’t do on the floor. I can only imagine how much time he put into his craft.
PG position is so tough to rank. It comes down to personal play-style preference. All Point Gods with completely different games, Chef, Beard, Russ, KAI, D. Rose, CP3, Nash, Stockton, Mark Jackson, Kidd, Magic, Zeke, AI, Starbury, Penny, Hardaway, Dame, etc.
He was spot on with the Micheal vick and Allen Iverson analogy. I like that one. Mike vick was the Allen Iverson of football. One of a kind. Cultural icon. Didn't win a ring but their style of play will live in our minds forever as one of the greatest to ever watch
50 vs Timberwolves 50 vs Charlotte on 19 shots 54 vs Bulls on 82% from the field 55 vs Portland 11 3s 57 vs Spurs 60 vs Orlando .. One thing about Kyrie he’s very efficient and he doesn’t get too the line a lot , soo he’s getting field goals more waay more than free throws .. & he beat Steph and Klay at they own game in the 3 point shootout in 2013 and beat them both all 1st appearances shit matters
lol WHERE'S HIS SCORING TITLES? WHERE'S HIS AVG 30 A GAME? U SHOWED 6 GOOD EFFICIENT GAMES.... TELL ME ANYTHING OF BASKETBALL SIGNIFICANCE KYRIE HAS DONE SINCE THE 2016 SHOT?.... JUST ONE?....WITHOUT SAYIN 50 40 90
@@ronmoody3001the average 30 thing is the most elementary logic respectfully, does this mean Beal is a better scorer than Carmelo, kyrie, and Devin Booker since he’s averaged 30 before and they haven’t. To make it even more disgusting does that mean lamelo ball is a better scorer than them since he’s averaging 30 right now?
@@abtocool6350 BUT HONESTLY ALL U NAMED HAVE A CASE OF BEING A BETTER SCORER THAN KY.... NO SHADE TO HIM.... BUT HE NEVER REALLY BEEN THE MAIN SCORER FOR HIS TEAM WITH SUCCESS OF ANY SORT.... AGAIN MUCH EASIER TO BE EFFICIENT WHEN U PLAYIN 2ND FIDDLE... BUT LUKA GONE A MONTH....LET'S SEE IF THIS BEST SCORER COMES OUT
exactly...and then you have people in the comments agreeing with media heads who have never really played the game at a high level. Like, yall really gonna believe talking heads over actual players? It's wild
Kyrie is a shooting guard that sometimes brings the ball up💯and he’s top 5 most skilled players ever and he’s probably 3rd behind Jordan and Kobe 💯his bag is flawless and high level
Bruh acting like Vick ain’t as much as an icon as AI is insaneeee. That man Vick legit changed the game of football. Everyone had some Vick cleats. Even lineman wanted them hoes. They bball guys so makes sense tho
Kyrie is the Most Talented Scorer JT has ever seen. PERSONALLY for me (As a 39 yr old) the Most Talented scorers I've seen in my Lifetime were 1. MJ 2. Prime Kobe 3. Orlando Prime T-Mac 4. Philly Prime A.I 5. OKC Kevin Durant
It's only because of the flash. American players are biased for players who have the finesse that Kyrie has. Guys that'll get their buckets in direct and efficient ways like Alex English for example
@ well then how does he have the most points in nba history then? Btw I don’t think lebron is the goat.. But he’s clearly the most gifted basketball player of all time.. I would even argue that Kylie is more skilled then gifted
he's not even the best scorer on his current team. when he was on the team with lebron, he wasn't the best scorer. When he was on the team with KD, he wasn't the best scorer.. WTF do people be talking about. Skills and results are two different things. He can't score as consistently as none of them guys.
If it's the calf strain/gastrocnemius, there's likely another injury elsewhere. Most likely his foot. Dorsal ligaments, plantar fascia, tibialis anterior, or maybe even tendons on the top of the foot.... If they find a way to start winning without him, it's UP for the league when he comes back.
I’m ignorantly confident that Kai got the most 1on1/kotc wins on the entire planet. That bag is matured but it ain’t new. I recently watched that 57 he put on the Spurs and every basket still got me like wtf
The time Kyrie could have been learning to be the leader everyone expects him to be was his first 3 years, then they got LeBron who really only expects to lead everything. Him going back to Cleveland made it hard to gain control of the locker room because his personality is so heavy. As good as LeBron is, he never developed any of his teammates because they always ended up coming to the team to play a role.
Best scorer in history no, as capable as anyone in history yes. There are multiple scorers as capable of putting the ball in the basket from all levels as well.he is elite and fascinating to watch.
Finally someone give him his flowers and as I said before Bron has NEVER been the BEST player on a CHAMPIONSHIP team 💯 Wade won that AD won that Kyrie won that
This is cap, kyrie does get double teamed, I watched him in the second round last postseason get blitzed for the entire series against Okc. So he wasn’t getting double teamed as a first option in Boston?, or in Cleveland on that trash roster before lebron came back?
@abtocool6350 he wasn't even the number 1 option on his championship team. Is he better than the majority of the players today? Yes, he is. It's crazy that they even left him and Dwight out of top 75.
AI put up 1787 points his rookie season, 5 consecutive 40 point games, and a 50 ball game and averaged 2.1 steals as a rookie. Thats big dog status. Kyrie is the best skilled PG in the NBA. Iverson was about scoring at a high clip
I grew up watching Iverson and have immense respect for him. He leads a team better through heart and grit. His prime years he shot 7 more shots than Kyrie and double the free throws to only average 5 more points per game. Kyrie would average 35 ppg with the same shot attempts because he's insanely efficient. He has the worst whistles in the NBA ever since going against the agenda and we all should know why the owners hate him and removed him off the NBA 75 list.
Honestly.. he hasn't been on a team where he has needed to be a 30-ppg scorer. I wouldn't count those early cav days either considering he was still developing and adjusting to the league
@kingdoubler1019 rod is a BX native so I'm always wit Rod. As far as kyrie he's more Isiah than Rod other than the finishing around the rim. Rod and Kyrie are more creative around the rim but Zeek and Kyrie have the same game
@anthonypham9206 you must be young and didn't watch Zeek play. So no need to keep going with you. Watch Zeek games then tell me about how well. They shoot all young kids think about is the 3 point line. The 3 point line was a gimmick in the 80's or a way to help in the end of the game back then. So no one really practiced shooting from that distance
Kyrie isnt a better player than AI. Kyrie had the benefit of doing all this while being a 2nd option to Elite scorers like Lebron Luka and KD to take the defensive pressure off him for most of career while being in the most spaced out offensively catered league in NBA history while having more Lenient rules for Dribbling and carrying the ball
@@abtocool6350 melo compared to 2015-2017 Lebron, Luka Now, and 2021-22 KD, and a deep Celtics team? Try again. Kyrie has been a 2nd option for every year of his career except his first couple seasons in Cleveland. Meanwhile, AI been the first option on a team while having 4 scoring titles in the most physical, defensive era in NBA history. Kyrie is great but give AI is another level
@@Jolteon1989 nice try but kyrie was the definitive first option on that Celtics team, he was a all star both seasons there and was second team all nba his second year there. Melo isn’t as good as those players but he still had a lot of scoring gravity. He averaged almost 29 in one of those years 😂. The truth is people’s main reason for Ai underperforming in the playoffs was because he had limited offensive help on the sixers(which I agree with), but they just ignore the 2 years on Denver when he played on a way better offensive team with another scoring assassin.
@@abtocool6350 Nice try. 2 years of Melo at close to the end of AIs career compared to 4 years of Lebron, a deep Celtics team, a couple years with KD and Luka throughout Kyries Career? Kyrie has barely had to take on the 1st scoring option for a full season amd playoffs. The Celtics was the only time and that was for one year before he got hurt. Give AI Kyries help and hes way more efficient, and give Kyrie AIs help and workload and hes not winning scoring titles. Hell Kyrie would barely play half the seasons in the 90s and 2000s because hes been more banged up than he already has been in his career despite being the 2nd option for most of it
@ kyrie played 127 games out 164 in Boston, that’s 77% of the games, so he was available for the most part. Your making seem like Ai was out of his prime in Denver. When the year before he got traded he averaged 33 points per game and then the next year in 15 games averaged 31 before getting traded in that season.
The problem is the comment section doesn’t actually touch grass, let alone HOOP. How many of the PROS have to say it before yall believe it? Kyrie is the most SKILLED player to ever play basketball and it’s evident. He’s arguably the most SKILLED scorer because he can dominate a game at ALL three levels literally at will and has the arsenal of moves, counters, footwork, creativity, balance, dexterity, and GALL to do it. Kyrie can jump off either foot on either side of the rim. HOOPERS know how hard that is. Kyrie doesn’t have an offhand. He is literally ambidextrous, meaning both of his hands equal and DOMINANT. Kyrie in one of the most efficient shooters EVER. (Splits > DAME, RAY ALLEN AND KLAY) -
All that 'skill' and his playoff resume as the first option on a team is barely better than DeMar DeRozan's. Why doesn't all this skill get him MVPs or scoring titles or more rings? Without LeBron or Luka holding his hand, what exactly has he accomplished?
@ Skill has ZERO to do with MVP Where the MEDIA VOTES. Giannis has chip and a MVP. Is he more SKILLED than Kyrie? Individual SKILL has nothing to do with TEAM success or awards that the media votes on.
@jasonau427 What of scoring titles then? That should be individual skill, no? Why does this 'most skilled player of all time' have no scoring titles? Or 30 PPG seasons? Surely with all his skill putting the basket in the hoop, he should have one of those.
@jasonau427 Lol, when was Kyrie a 3 point champion? Ryan Anderson and then Curry twice led the league in 3 pointers made in Kyrie's first 3 seasons in the league (before Bron went back to Cleveland). Plus ROY and 2 time All-Star really isn't that impressive when you're talking about 'most talented'. Luka, Kyrie's teammate, was a ROY and made the playoffs twice in his first three seasons and was all-NBA first team twice. Kevin Durant, Kyrie's former teammate was also a ROY, one time all NBA first team, MVP runner up and made the playoffs once in his first three seasons. Those are easily more impressive than Kyrie and I wouldn't have called any of those HOF careers yet. So it's not that special in the big picture. Guys have done more.
As a Kyrie fan he’s not better than AI simply for the fact that AI was a first option his whole career and excelled at it, can’t say the same for kyrie when he was the first option. Skill for skill kyrie wins tho
If we are kyrie, was ascending at a crazy rate the Cleveland win rate was increasing year to year, then lebron(media boy) saw this and returned literally robbing him af usage rate, thus type casting him as a 1b. When he is the best player on the court.
lebron literally has the most points ever and isn't considered top 3 best scorers... it's about the way u score n if u pay attention they do state kyrie is very unselfish and doesn't have the mindset to actually go for a scoring title.
@RBTrell It's not about mindset..... He simply does not have the ability to win the scoring title. To win the scoring title, you need durability, a high free throw rate and shot diet heavily biased towards three point shots. Look at the last 10 scoring champions. Luka and Harden take a lot of threes and gets to the line a lot. Embiid is an excellent foul drawer. Curry is the greatest three point shooter of all time. KD and Westbrook shot a lot of free throws in OKC when they won the scoring title. Kyrie is not a volume three point shooter and doesn't attack the rim enough. It's not just mentality, he just doesn't have those gifts as well.
Kyrie is amazing ...best handles of all time as far as ive seen ..but im not sure why people leave out the fact that he doesn't win ...prior or joining the Mavs he has a loosing record in the NBA when playing without Lebron ...he also has never been the best player on a team and lead them even to the playoffs ...visually and technically hes a beast ..but by the standards that everyone else is judged on ...he doesn't win at the rate of the greats especially considering the amount of HOF talents hes played beside
Your just spreading out lies and misinformation. He factually has a winning record without lebron and he lead as the best player on a team to the playoffs. It’s revisionist history, his first year in Boston they won 16 games in a row with players in and out of the lineup and he was second on the mvp ladder in November. They won 55 games with kyrie playing in the majority of those games as a second seed before having to get surgery at the end of the season. The next year they won 49 games as the 4th seed and got to the second round.
@abtocool6350 not trying to be combative ...on Boston he didn't lead them to the playoffs ...when Boston had their success and also got to the ECF he wasn't on the court/playing ...he definitely had a loosing overall record before Dallas without Lebron ...I like Kyrie you can research all of what I said
Why do people like to argue over opinions ? Thats how he feels. I don’t . Let’s move on. No debate needed. My opinion not changing and neither is yours.. I don’t even care why you think he’s the best.
Lol as a Kyrie fan after he hit that hook shoot for game over jokic I was done arguing w people about this topic
U a 🤡 too
Naw real shit. It’s sad how much praise he gets but always gets downplayed when being compared to someone else.
I concur
Crazy shit I ever seen foo
Nothing to argue he’s not lol It’s KD and Jordan flat out
Many NBA players believe Kyrie is the best scorer of all time. JR Smith broke it down perfectly on a podcast "He can do it with either hand, he can shoot left hand, right hand, he can shoot mid range, he can shoot 3s, spot ups, off the dribble...He has the best handles we've ever seen, He's the best finisher under the basket we've ever seen by far it's not even close. The spin on his left hand, right hand. Free throw shooting. He's a 50/40/90 dude damn near every year. The only reason why he's not is because the shots he takes are tough shots. There's nobody creatively on the basketball floor that can get any shot they want better than him. Idgaf if there's 4 people guarding him, 5 people guarding him, it don't matter."
That nice
Kyrie not the best scorer ever. That will be either Wilt or Jordan
@@BoosterGoldEarth6 Don't get inflated stats confused with ethical hooping. If a car is the fastest car we've ever seen but didn't compete in enough races does that mean it's no longer the fastest car?
@@BoosterGoldEarth6would you say point guard wise he is?
@@ethicalhooperJordan is a better scoring the Kyrie efficiency was also.
Kyrie is the closest things to Kobe offensively
That is a great point, he does not flop. He doesn't hunt for fouls either.
Fax. Imagine he had a whistle
I understand what Jeff is saying. Kyrie pound for pound one of the most skilled players to touch a ball. There isn’t one thing he can’t do on the floor. I can only imagine how much time he put into his craft.
Kobe better
Thank you JT for giving Ky his flowers
Jet*
The Vick, Lamar comparison to kyrie and AI is valid.
Spot on
lamar boutta have 3 mvps and kai only been in conversations once or twice tho but i see what her talking bout
Yea idk what that other dude was on like Vick wasn’t him
@@randobrando4414nga not talkin bout awards obviously cs Vick never won nun and AI did u small minded ngas b blowing me
PG position is so tough to rank. It comes down to personal play-style preference. All Point Gods with completely different games, Chef, Beard, Russ, KAI, D. Rose, CP3, Nash, Stockton, Mark Jackson, Kidd, Magic, Zeke, AI, Starbury, Penny, Hardaway, Dame, etc.
Rondo, Jrue holiday too... depending what the team needs
🔥🔥🔥🔥 list
Facts, you can’t go wrong with any of them in their prime no matter who they’re playing against
Putting Marbury in that list is wild he is nowhere near the level of the others
Harden is a sg
Kyrie is a certified hooper, always a treat watching him play and he’s the #1 option
Do y’all hear how many young guys call Kai their favorite player? Y’all know how many shoes he sold? Bro got anta lit rn 😂😂
Iverson said himself that kyrie had better handles
If kyrie had 4 championships he’d be ranked #1 pg all time
Naw......best point guard will always be Magic Johnson. 5 Titles; 9 championship appearances in 12 years.
@@Bryan_502 someone in the bay got something to say about thus
If IF was a 5th we all would be drunk
@@Bryan_502and 1 kareem abdul jabbar on his team
not as eternal 2nd or 3rd best player..
and after this game now he had another HORRIBLE GAME with 28 %FG...proving he cant be a star
Jeff gonna big his era up.. no matter how it sound
Ky is my favorite player to watch, that’s for sure. He has the most beautiful game eva. And I’ve been watching NBA for more then 20 years.
I honestly can’t argue with this take. He’s so damn talented.
Kyrie is not the best score ever. Yall can stop this nonsense now.
Don’t worry, there are plenty of people who can and will argue, otherwise 😂
Wilt Chamberlain existed y'all know
Jordan , Iverson, KD
Anybody that thinks Ky is a better player than A.I. is a moron.
@@BoosterGoldEarth6you never seen wilt play stfu
He was spot on with the Micheal vick and Allen Iverson analogy. I like that one. Mike vick was the Allen Iverson of football. One of a kind. Cultural icon. Didn't win a ring but their style of play will live in our minds forever as one of the greatest to ever watch
50 vs Timberwolves
50 vs Charlotte on 19 shots
54 vs Bulls on 82% from the field
55 vs Portland 11 3s
57 vs Spurs
60 vs Orlando .. One thing about Kyrie he’s very efficient and he doesn’t get too the line a lot , soo he’s getting field goals more waay more than free throws .. & he beat Steph and Klay at they own game in the 3 point shootout in 2013 and beat them both all 1st appearances shit matters
lol WHERE'S HIS SCORING TITLES?
WHERE'S HIS AVG 30 A GAME?
U SHOWED 6 GOOD EFFICIENT GAMES....
TELL ME ANYTHING OF BASKETBALL SIGNIFICANCE KYRIE HAS DONE SINCE THE 2016 SHOT?....
JUST ONE?....WITHOUT SAYIN 50 40 90
@@ronmoody3001the average 30 thing is the most elementary logic respectfully, does this mean Beal is a better scorer than Carmelo, kyrie, and Devin Booker since he’s averaged 30 before and they haven’t. To make it even more disgusting does that mean lamelo ball is a better scorer than them since he’s averaging 30 right now?
@abtocool6350 HE NOT A BETTER SCORER THAN MELO EITHER....
U CANT DISMISS SCORING AVG SCORING TITLES & AVG 30...
WHEN BRAGGIN ON A SCORER...LOL...
@@ronmoody3001 I would give Carmelo the edge but not by a huge margin.
@@abtocool6350 BUT HONESTLY ALL U NAMED HAVE A CASE OF BEING A BETTER SCORER THAN KY....
NO SHADE TO HIM....
BUT HE NEVER REALLY BEEN THE MAIN SCORER FOR HIS TEAM WITH SUCCESS OF ANY SORT....
AGAIN MUCH EASIER TO BE EFFICIENT WHEN U PLAYIN 2ND FIDDLE...
BUT LUKA GONE A MONTH....LET'S SEE IF THIS BEST SCORER COMES OUT
I love how every NBA player says he the best, and talk shows who never played high school will still say something else and hate him 😂
exactly...and then you have people in the comments agreeing with media heads who have never really played the game at a high level. Like, yall really gonna believe talking heads over actual players? It's wild
Most fluid player ever, flows like water through the mountains
U think more fluid than PG
Kyrie is a shooting guard that sometimes brings the ball up💯and he’s top 5 most skilled players ever and he’s probably 3rd behind Jordan and Kobe 💯his bag is flawless and high level
kyrie is more skilled than both of them 😂 he can do everything they do but they cant do everything he do...
Mj can dunk with left off dribble can kyrie no so no kyrie cant do everything mj can do
@@cheetahturner4576 😂😂😂 ur brain is too small bro idk
To say “AI, is that guy and he’s our guy to carry us” at 5’10 is crazy. That’s when the league wasn’t soft as baby shit too! He was so tough!
Kyrie learned from Rod Strickland. I thought Rod is Kyrie’s Godfather.
That is correct
Bruh acting like Vick ain’t as much as an icon as AI is insaneeee. That man Vick legit changed the game of football. Everyone had some Vick cleats. Even lineman wanted them hoes. They bball guys so makes sense tho
Kyrie is the Most Talented Scorer JT has ever seen.
PERSONALLY for me (As a 39 yr old) the Most Talented scorers I've seen in my Lifetime were
1. MJ
2. Prime Kobe
3. Orlando Prime T-Mac
4. Philly Prime A.I
5. OKC Kevin Durant
That list fire as hell ngl
This actually a very good list
@reckless1216 : Much appreciated Bro
@@kingameere : Good Looking 👌🏿
All man over 27 agree with you
Solid list .. nd I’d put steph curry mvp unanimous season
It's only because of the flash. American players are biased for players who have the finesse that Kyrie has. Guys that'll get their buckets in direct and efficient ways like Alex English for example
That’s false kyrie gets his buckets in very efficient ways and he’s right to the point with his buckets with great fundamentals.
@@MindfulAttraction2.0 flash = SKILL
@@jasonau427kd has skill but would u call him flashy?
@@RBTrell What’s KDs skill?? Being 7 feet tall and shooting over people?
@ this will be my last response
When you play the game you realize Kyrie makes hard shit look easy.
Kyrie is the most gifted basketball ball player of all time. He has no flaws in his game. Plays both sides and is competitive.
What the F?
Lebron would be the most gifted basketball player ever
@damoncherry5649
Yes he is
@@damoncherry5649 LeBron can’t dribble or get past anyone.
@ well then how does he have the most points in nba history then? Btw I don’t think lebron is the goat.. But he’s clearly the most gifted basketball player of all time.. I would even argue that Kylie is more skilled then gifted
he's not even the best scorer on his current team. when he was on the team with lebron, he wasn't the best scorer. When he was on the team with KD, he wasn't the best scorer.. WTF do people be talking about. Skills and results are two different things. He can't score as consistently as none of them guys.
I've been saying this for years too. People do not put enough respect on Kyrie. He is the most skilled basketball player I've seen with my own eyes.
Only real hoopers give Kyrie his props
People that actually know basketball, knows this about Kyrie to be 100% true Countless current & former players has stated this
THANK YOU!!! Kyrie is just different.
If it's the calf strain/gastrocnemius, there's likely another injury elsewhere. Most likely his foot. Dorsal ligaments, plantar fascia, tibialis anterior, or maybe even tendons on the top of the foot.... If they find a way to start winning without him, it's UP for the league when he comes back.
In a era full of dogs kinda wild 😂
THANK YOU I understand it’s easy for KD but no one talks about the skill set Kyrie has
I think they are underestimating Kyrie Culture impact. The man was outselling LeBron in shoes. Then he got his own movie…
I’m ignorantly confident that Kai got the most 1on1/kotc wins on the entire planet. That bag is matured but it ain’t new. I recently watched that 57 he put on the Spurs and every basket still got me like wtf
The time Kyrie could have been learning to be the leader everyone expects him to be was his first 3 years, then they got LeBron who really only expects to lead everything. Him going back to Cleveland made it hard to gain control of the locker room because his personality is so heavy. As good as LeBron is, he never developed any of his teammates because they always ended up coming to the team to play a role.
The conversation is Skill vs Greatness. Kyrie is more skilled < Ai was Greater. Kobe more skilled < MJ was Greater.
😂😂😂😂 yeah right when u were born? 2010?
@ 80s baby right here. That’s why I’m qualified to speak on it
this facts
Best scorer in history no, as capable as anyone in history yes. There are multiple scorers as capable of putting the ball in the basket from all levels as well.he is elite and fascinating to watch.
Finally someone give him his flowers and as I said before Bron has NEVER been the BEST player on a CHAMPIONSHIP team 💯 Wade won that AD won that Kyrie won that
MJ is the best scorer ever period. I love Kyrie but he ain't being double and triple teamed
This is cap, kyrie does get double teamed, I watched him in the second round last postseason get blitzed for the entire series against Okc. So he wasn’t getting double teamed as a first option in Boston?, or in Cleveland on that trash roster before lebron came back?
@abtocool6350 there is no comparison to the traps MJ received.
@@chuanR35I never said he got more, but you said verbatim “he ain’t being double and triple teamed”, which isn’t true.
@abtocool6350 he wasn't even the number 1 option on his championship team. Is he better than the majority of the players today? Yes, he is. It's crazy that they even left him and Dwight out of top 75.
AI put up 1787 points his rookie season, 5 consecutive 40 point games, and a 50 ball game and averaged 2.1 steals as a rookie. Thats big dog status.
Kyrie is the best skilled PG in the NBA.
Iverson was about scoring at a high clip
I grew up watching Iverson and have immense respect for him. He leads a team better through heart and grit. His prime years he shot 7 more shots than Kyrie and double the free throws to only average 5 more points per game. Kyrie would average 35 ppg with the same shot attempts because he's insanely efficient. He has the worst whistles in the NBA ever since going against the agenda and we all should know why the owners hate him and removed him off the NBA 75 list.
I like this desk better
Can’t tell me ONE better than kyrie 😂
Skill wise Kyrie, production wise Iverson and A.I was always the number one option kyrie always is a number 2 option big difference
Luka might needa lose some weight. When I’m overweight is the only time I have issues with consistent calf strains
If kyrie had the mind set of ai he would average 30+ every season.
The difference is Ai took 8.9 free throw attempts for his career and kyrie only takes 3.8.
Easy can average 30 if he was a more selfish type of player kinda how russ was taking his big mens rebounds just to stuff stats
Great comparison 7:55
He tied with Jamal Crawford and Melo for me. If you take any one of them for "most talented scorer" I'll respect it.
Mike Vick was just more electric.
Man never avg 35 for a season but we talking about he the BEST EVER SCORER HOW?? goofy as dude
Facts 😂
It’s the way he score
😂😂😂 you gotta be a youngin, look up what efficiency and skill means. & also KD never averaged 35 and he’s the best scorer ever.
Yes! A lazy TH-camr who smokes blunts and listens to NBA Youngboy is far more qualified to speak than former NBA players. Please educate us more!
Casual
Kyrie has the coldest lay-up package in NBA History...POINT. BLANK. PERIOD.🤔
Bro has never a averaged over 30 points in his life 😢 and they call him the most gifted scorer 🤷🏾♂️
Honestly.. he hasn't been on a team where he has needed to be a 30-ppg scorer. I wouldn't count those early cav days either considering he was still developing and adjusting to the league
You're a casual
@@mekhigreenefax
@@ek1743 Was this directed at me or the original comment?
@@mekhigreene original
kyrie is coming different this season!!!
Iverson didnt need the handle because he got where he wanted to with his first step.
Ja Morant competitiveness and his ability to make his team relevant… he remind me of AI frfr.
I still never seen a guard that score better than Kobe including kyrie
Hard to say cause we never seen AI with a player like Lebron or Luka for real..he was carrying his team most of time
Havent watched but im sure we'll hear "Kyrie Kold men.. he Kold!!"
7:27 Bhen irritated wit yall today😂😂😂
Nobody Can Do More Moves With A Basketball Than Kyrie Its Pretty Simple. Nor Match His Creativity
He’s great but chill
Im not taking NO point over Kyrie.. and u sayin AI carried that sixer team.. Kyrie won the Cavs that Ring IDC i was there
Kyrie is the Andre 3000 of basketball
Bro only knock on Kyrie is that he’s 6’2 😂 bro would be modern day Kobe if he was 6’5
He actually would be better than Kobe if he was that height😂
I’m not mad at putting Ky over AI, Iverson was also like 5’10 155,
Ai average more assists than kyrie so to say ai won’t pass to a open teammate is ignorant
Kyrie Irving is too humble.. he doesn’t care about individual accolades he puts the team first. You can see that at the Mavs, Nets and Cavs.
@@HazardtheGoat2 WELL....THAT PERFECTLY EXPLAINS WHY HE ALWAYS A NUMBER II
I think Kyrie has the most visually appealing game of all time but the best scorer of all time? That’s a stretch. Maybe pound for pound
And again, How was this man "Not" on the the 75th Anniversary Team . But we really know why.
Luca plays below the rim so a calf strain really isn't going to keep him out that long
Kyrie is incredible, but you can tell they never seen Bernard King play
We win games without Luka with ky leadership
Kyrie literally does everything better with a basketball than A.I it’s not even debatable, A.I is just more explosive athletically
Comparison is thief of joy
AI my favorite player of all time. There both scorers and Kyrie is flawless as a scorer
Kyrie is not stop shorty not consistent enough…Kobe is most skilled scorer ever
A guy who’s has shooting splits of 47/39/88 isn’t consistent enough?🤔
AI is like Cam Newton
Kyrie can guard curry 💯
Mike and Lamar both great. I would pick Mike. Man he would have cooked with Tony G in Reid offense.
Kyrie and Isiah Thomas are damn near mirror image.
😂😂😂 wtf no they are not. Rod Strickland is the only comp
@kingdoubler1019 rod is a BX native so I'm always wit Rod. As far as kyrie he's more Isiah than Rod other than the finishing around the rim. Rod and Kyrie are more creative around the rim but Zeek and Kyrie have the same game
Isiah Thomas could ONLY DREAM to shoot like Kyrie.
@anthonypham9206 you must be young and didn't watch Zeek play. So no need to keep going with you. Watch Zeek games then tell me about how well. They shoot all young kids think about is the 3 point line. The 3 point line was a gimmick in the 80's or a way to help in the end of the game back then. So no one really practiced shooting from that distance
@@anthonypham9206 BRUH!!!! LOL
Kyrie isnt a better player than AI. Kyrie had the benefit of doing all this while being a 2nd option to Elite scorers like Lebron Luka and KD to take the defensive pressure off him for most of career while being in the most spaced out offensively catered league in NBA history while having more Lenient rules for Dribbling and carrying the ball
Ai played next to melo as the second option for 2 seasons and underperformed in both postseason which led to them getting smoked both years 🤷♂️.
@@abtocool6350 melo compared to 2015-2017 Lebron, Luka Now, and 2021-22 KD, and a deep Celtics team?
Try again.
Kyrie has been a 2nd option for every year of his career except his first couple seasons in Cleveland.
Meanwhile, AI been the first option on a team while having 4 scoring titles in the most physical, defensive era in NBA history.
Kyrie is great but give AI is another level
@@Jolteon1989 nice try but kyrie was the definitive first option on that Celtics team, he was a all star both seasons there and was second team all nba his second year there. Melo isn’t as good as those players but he still had a lot of scoring gravity. He averaged almost 29 in one of those years 😂. The truth is people’s main reason for Ai underperforming in the playoffs was because he had limited offensive help on the sixers(which I agree with), but they just ignore the 2 years on Denver when he played on a way better offensive team with another scoring assassin.
@@abtocool6350 Nice try. 2 years of Melo at close to the end of AIs career compared to 4 years of Lebron, a deep Celtics team, a couple years with KD and Luka throughout Kyries Career?
Kyrie has barely had to take on the 1st scoring option for a full season amd playoffs. The Celtics was the only time and that was for one year before he got hurt.
Give AI Kyries help and hes way more efficient, and give Kyrie AIs help and workload and hes not winning scoring titles.
Hell Kyrie would barely play half the seasons in the 90s and 2000s because hes been more banged up than he already has been in his career despite being the 2nd option for most of it
@ kyrie played 127 games out 164 in Boston, that’s 77% of the games, so he was available for the most part.
Your making seem like Ai was out of his prime in Denver. When the year before he got traded he averaged 33 points per game and then the next year in 15 games averaged 31 before getting traded in that season.
Best scorer is crazy. He not better scorer than AI, Harden, Curry,KD, Jordan, Kobe or Bron
In other news for extremely common opinions, many believe the sky to be blue
Lost your mind putting Kyrie over AI tho 😂
Kyrie not no all time scorer please don't disrespect the nba like that.
The problem is the comment section doesn’t actually touch grass, let alone HOOP.
How many of the PROS have to say it before yall believe it?
Kyrie is the most SKILLED player to ever play basketball and it’s evident.
He’s arguably the most SKILLED scorer because he can dominate a game at ALL three levels literally at will and has the arsenal of moves, counters, footwork, creativity, balance, dexterity, and GALL to do it.
Kyrie can jump off either foot on either side of the rim. HOOPERS know how hard that is.
Kyrie doesn’t have an offhand. He is literally ambidextrous, meaning both of his hands equal and DOMINANT.
Kyrie in one of the most efficient shooters EVER. (Splits > DAME, RAY ALLEN AND KLAY) -
All that 'skill' and his playoff resume as the first option on a team is barely better than DeMar DeRozan's.
Why doesn't all this skill get him MVPs or scoring titles or more rings? Without LeBron or Luka holding his hand, what exactly has he accomplished?
@ Skill has ZERO to do with MVP Where the MEDIA VOTES. Giannis has chip and a MVP. Is he more SKILLED than Kyrie?
Individual SKILL has nothing to do with TEAM success or awards that the media votes on.
@ He was a 2x All Star, ROY, and 3 point champion before LeBron got there at 21 years of age.
He has a HOF career without LeBron and Luka. Lol
@jasonau427 What of scoring titles then? That should be individual skill, no?
Why does this 'most skilled player of all time' have no scoring titles? Or 30 PPG seasons? Surely with all his skill putting the basket in the hoop, he should have one of those.
@jasonau427 Lol, when was Kyrie a 3 point champion? Ryan Anderson and then Curry twice led the league in 3 pointers made in Kyrie's first 3 seasons in the league (before Bron went back to Cleveland).
Plus ROY and 2 time All-Star really isn't that impressive when you're talking about 'most talented'. Luka, Kyrie's teammate, was a ROY and made the playoffs twice in his first three seasons and was all-NBA first team twice. Kevin Durant, Kyrie's former teammate was also a ROY, one time all NBA first team, MVP runner up and made the playoffs once in his first three seasons. Those are easily more impressive than Kyrie and I wouldn't have called any of those HOF careers yet.
So it's not that special in the big picture. Guys have done more.
He said the most talented, which is fact. He isn't close to the best
As a Kyrie fan he’s not better than AI simply for the fact that AI was a first option his whole career and excelled at it, can’t say the same for kyrie when he was the first option. Skill for skill kyrie wins tho
If we are kyrie, was ascending at a crazy rate the Cleveland win rate was increasing year to year, then lebron(media boy) saw this and returned literally robbing him af usage rate, thus type casting him as a 1b. When he is the best player on the court.
If it's the best player on my team to see the tone AI > Kyrie.. but if I'm sliding in a 2nd option Kyrie >>>
The best scorer ever that never led the league in scoring lol
Right I hate how it is now.. it’s more about who people like rather then performance
Preach.....
No scoring titles, no 30 PPG seasons but people be hyping him because he does nice layups lol.
He doesnt get the same free throw attempts than others. While he plays under the basket more than them
lebron literally has the most points ever and isn't considered top 3 best scorers... it's about the way u score n if u pay attention they do state kyrie is very unselfish and doesn't have the mindset to actually go for a scoring title.
@RBTrell It's not about mindset.....
He simply does not have the ability to win the scoring title.
To win the scoring title, you need durability, a high free throw rate and shot diet heavily biased towards three point shots.
Look at the last 10 scoring champions. Luka and Harden take a lot of threes and gets to the line a lot. Embiid is an excellent foul drawer. Curry is the greatest three point shooter of all time. KD and Westbrook shot a lot of free throws in OKC when they won the scoring title.
Kyrie is not a volume three point shooter and doesn't attack the rim enough. It's not just mentality, he just doesn't have those gifts as well.
Imagine if kyrie was 6”7
Ah bro you lost me when you said he better than AI
Kyrie upset the small hat gang and they the most powerful gang in the world .
Kyrie is amazing ...best handles of all time as far as ive seen ..but im not sure why people leave out the fact that he doesn't win ...prior or joining the Mavs he has a loosing record in the NBA when playing without Lebron ...he also has never been the best player on a team and lead them even to the playoffs ...visually and technically hes a beast ..but by the standards that everyone else is judged on ...he doesn't win at the rate of the greats especially considering the amount of HOF talents hes played beside
Your just spreading out lies and misinformation. He factually has a winning record without lebron and he lead as the best player on a team to the playoffs. It’s revisionist history, his first year in Boston they won 16 games in a row with players in and out of the lineup and he was second on the mvp ladder in November. They won 55 games with kyrie playing in the majority of those games as a second seed before having to get surgery at the end of the season. The next year they won 49 games as the 4th seed and got to the second round.
@abtocool6350 not trying to be combative ...on Boston he didn't lead them to the playoffs ...when Boston had their success and also got to the ECF he wasn't on the court/playing ...he definitely had a loosing overall record before Dallas without Lebron ...I like Kyrie you can research all of what I said
Allen iverson has 4 scoring titles and led the leauge in steals twice!
Kyrie hasn't led the league in nothing!
Harden Steph Luka
MJ Kobe KD
Kyrie is great but not in the convo for best ever
Saying Kyrie over Ai is a horrible take😂
What ai does better than Kyrie?
Besides take more shots & shoot less then 44% from the field?
I think its reversed. Kyrie is like mike vick and AI is like lamar jackson
Why do people like to argue over opinions ? Thats how he feels. I don’t . Let’s move on. No debate needed. My opinion not changing and neither is yours.. I don’t even care why you think he’s the best.
What you described doesn’t equal views 😂 people LOVE drama, not facts and logic. That doesn’t sell
Just cuz kyrie has more overall skill than A.I, don't mean he's better. That's stupid.