I looked into this.The insurance on car and maintenance.Having to have a good phone.Also you need to do that at minimum twice a day.Taking everything into account.I think £5 is low.Were can you hire a car phone and driver for 3 hours for £5.Then pay minimum wage of around £33 for the 3 hours.This shows how desperate people are to make some money.Very sad what this country has become.We are now a third world country.
We are becoming it slowly due to allowing third world people into the country. They then 4 hours a day on the books and cash in hand for the other 8 hours of the day for a measly £5 an hour. They also don't mind doing overtime for minimum wage.
its KARMA for what you did to INDIA, funny how society fixes the wrongs, india is buying big UK companies economy now thriving, while UK is going down hill, maybe the brits can learn something from their history, your countries growth and prosperity is based on a foundation of turning other countries into 3rd world places such as india and other african nations, so its finally time that the brits got put in their place, to bad you cant start a war for no reason and invade countries for their GDP or their valuables, how much gold did the UK take from india how many diamonds did you take from africa, ill give you a hint its 3x our current GDP, look into your own history its a shocker how 80% of brits live in isolation of the true history of the british empire
its a curse of contracting jobs like amazon flex, there are always people who are willing to do jobs at a lower rate and with no unionisation it screws everyone else but the employers.
Probably they didn't have a clue it was the base rate..I'm brand new to flex not taken any offers yet as Amazon literally just yesterday emailed me the 'you're on board'letter and I'm away on holiday...,and,I for one,would have had absolutely no clue if it wasn't for this video,thanks for sharing..We must remain united and organized to stand against exploitation, ensuring we don’t end up working for almost nothing.
Thanks for the vid. I've just retired and found this sad, the opportunities available to me in the 80's are no longer available, ways to escape the grind. Worse, doing these types of jobs just covers the time for the man before you are made redundant by drones or robots. Totally depressing. 😢
I just switched my job from Uber eats to Amazon Flex, never considered base rate because I am a victim of Uber eats low paid job, instead I pick better offers at the right time and right place….many night shifts are well paid, seen one with 80 pounds for 3 and a half , not too bad
Did my first two shifts yesterday 11:30 - 1:00 (1.5hrs) 3:00 - 6:30 (3.5hrs) After expenses I made 30 pound for 5 hours work and 2 hours travel to depo’s and home I never finished block until 7:00 so half an hour late and had to drive 20mins to drop an undelivered parcel back off so left depo at 7:20, home by 8 Left house at 10:30 and home by 8 on a Saturday for 30 quid 😂😂😂😂😂
I commented on a previous video saying that base rate is ok, well yesterday I took a base rate 4 hour block and it was 140 miles and 5 hours so im with you on this one now. Base rate isnt worth your time its too variable...
yep. they can really take the mick. if you got a decent surge price then sometimes it makes me feel a bit better about going over, but knowing you're not even making that much AND having to go over time, its a bit disheartening
trying to get on amazon flex.just eat.deliveroo etc but no shifts. got on with uber eats and my van broke down on the first day haha been borrowing my dads bmw x5 40d for the last few days think iv spent more on fuel than iv been paid lol
I tried flex when I was made redundant a while back for "easy money" there's no money in it when you factor fuel and your time too and from. There's too many people accepting a base rate and they know this. Unless you live around the corner from a depot its not worth it. Found there navigation terrible also.
yeah all valid points. I live less than a mile away from depot and only do surge rates. If you're driving 30 mins to a depot for a base rate shift then there's absolutely no point. making like £20 for 3 hours work
I feel your pain mate!! The lanes I had to go down the other night was a joke mud tracks that wasn't even level 😢 increased rate but didn't finish early so they got there moneys worth!
It depends where you are. I've had 3.5 hour shifts that have took 50mins to complete. Base rate is fine. If you waited for higher rates where I am, you would never be doing flex
Totally agree with the theory but if no one accepts base rates amazon will just take more drivers on to compensate. The ideal scenario is just enough people taking base rates so it doesnt make it difficult picking up an enhanced rate.
@@Al3xmsuk it is all broken down as basic as possible at the end of the video. £49.50, then minus expenses, tax and wear and tear, it worked out being around £25 take home pay, which is rubbish
Hi there. I just watched your Flex TH-cam video. When it comes to working out your financials at the end, you are failing to add a claimable expense. You are failing to claim/deduct 45 pence for each mile you drove on that block. Therefore, 0.45 x 68 miles = £30.60 - deduct the £30.60 from the £49.50 = £18.90 minus 20% tax to pay of £3.78 You can also deduct mobile phone usage/car cleaning also which will reduce overall tax. Best you do some online research. Good luck & best wishes.
Hi Neil. Yes, I am aware of this. I always pay 20% tax into a pot each time I get paid, then when it comes to my self assessment, i claim back mileage and any other expense. I will then likely have a nice amount left over once I have paid the correct tax. You’re right though, should have mentioned it in the video
Also the tax is wrong as he has assumed 20% tax but it won't be 20% on all income due to personal allowance. (I don't know if there is a perfect way of distributing PA over the year for this type of work, but assuming 250 working days a year, it is £50 tax free income each day.)
You need to come to Australia on a working holiday visa, if you are under 35/36. Casual barista/cafe/waiter jobs are 15 GBP per hour + 11% superannuation which you apply for after you go back home. Everyone is desperate for staff. That's not including weekend shift allowance/loading.
If you see some of the deliveries are going to be awkward or too far away just don't deliver them, don't even attempt them, turn your Internet off as mark as at location or can't find address and it will let you make it as undelivered even if you ain't near the property. Saves you hassle and damage to your car, take them back to the depot and you still get paid
Do that Twice and your flex account is gone!!! 😂 it tired it once and they emailed me 2 days later to say i was out of the delivery zone!! And if i do that again i will be banned from flex
Well if you know you live in an awkward place dont order. Orrrr order it to a locker where it gaurantees delivery and its not awkward for the driver. Dont get paid enough@stingersplash @stingersplash
I did this recently. The weather and fog was so bad and i was going through tight country lanes. I pulled over, called up flex support, told them the issue, and they said to return to the depot as it is unsafe to drive. I explicitly asked several times in the phonecall ‘will it affect my rating?’ To which they replied no. 3 days later and my score goes from excellent to average as ‘6 parcels were not delivered’. Emailed amazon support and mentioned the phonecall and that i was told it wouldn’t affect my score. Just got generic robot emails back. They are getting worse to work for by the week in terms of driver support
Ive just signed up - i wont be taking any base rates! People need to just stand together and not do £8 hour base rate may as well deliver pizzas ha ha Thanks for advice
Nice video, mate! I just wanted to ask-have you registered yourself as self-employed, or how do you handle things in terms of taxes? Also, what have you done regarding insurance? Are you using the hourly insurance that Amazon suggests, or have you arranged something else?
They don't ask to see your insurance. Not even worth trying to get business insurance you can't afford it. You can earn 1k a year before tax comes into place. You could write all your car expenses off on tax
I am at the beginning of your video, and it is the same with Deliveroo, UberEats, etc. People are willing to accept the lowest possible base rates, and the rates have dropped significantly in recent times.
just done my first 2 blocks the past two days at base rate, didn't care too much because i just wanted to get my feet wet and see what amazon flex was all about, both where 3 hour blocks, finished my first in 2 hour 45 and second block in 2 hour 10 min
What about Business Insurance and car road tax as well , i know you calculate that 5 and you said is probably to much but i think is not actually too much considering that for doing amazon you need to pay a business insurance for carriage of good for hire and rewards. keep up the good work and keep up showing this message as basic rates are taken all over uk by some drivers that did not do any calculations at all and just taking shift to make sure that nobody else is takin them before them is like a challenge for them xd
When I signed and started delivering, I used to see lots of shifts, after doing my first 6 shifts though, I am barely seeing the one I want to do, and they go in second! any recommendation to grab them? I am thinking someone must be using bots, because they do go literally in a second while I am clicking on it !!
People use bots to get the shifts, they cost money to get you those shifts. People are idiots, then money is already too low without paying for software to get you the pissss poor rates
I just deliver for my local chinese. Cash in hand and free food at the end. I did amazon maybe 6 years ago in my car, it was a mugs game. It looks like they pay a little more now though, but im sticking with the noodles 😊
Greetings from Manchester. Companies these days don't care if you'll make money or not. If you won't accept the rate they pay you won't get the job. Plenty of fish out there who can grab anything offered. That's how it is these days. Take it or leave it.
£50 for 17 parcels is a piece of cake though? I worked a year for Amazon and was paid £117 a day minus a fiver for the van and another fiver for whatever reason...you'd average 220-260 parcels and if you were unlucky you'd have 300+ parcels in 9 hours supposedly with breaks included, can tell you that doesn't exist lol and you're actually working 10+ hours with the time you initially rock up at the unit get the van ready, depot and load etc
As someone who only buys parcels and pays the postage how is it that you guys get hardly any of the fee. I just bought something and paid £6.99 for delivery.. if you're delivering 200+ parcels a day that's potentially a lot of dosh in delivery..
@@chester6343 because we get a set rate per day, they'll claim the money will be for "expenses" in transport etc, long story short the big boss at the Amazon company I worked for, TGK (as none of the amazon delivery vans are actually amazon, its all 3rd party to avoid responsibility) he was making 60-80k a week roughly after taking out the fuel and salary expenses for all our drivers, made a calculation when i got told how much he makes a day with all the vans and drivers lol and that's ONLY from the 1 depot, he had another TGK fleet at another depot all in Glasgow, then has a DPD fleet, a TGK mechanic shop etc etc safe to say the guy's making bank and he had the cheek to reduce our pay by £15 a day last year and up the parcel count, safe to say a lot of people including me left, I was a mechanic briefly till I had enough fixing other people's cars its not fun when its not your own lol so im at First bus now
The minimum wage is over £12 now. Any company paying less can be fined Big time - so if you are getting less, then complain and threaten to report them.
he is getting paid £16-50 an hour. More then me as a bus driver. so amazon are not breaking any laws its the outgoings. I will be on same an hour at end with my outgoings to travel to and from work daily in my car.
I don’t take that into account when doing my initial costings after every shift. All my tax goes into separate pot to make sure I have enough, then i work out 45p a mile when I do my tax return
All these type of jobs are going the same way. I used to do Uber eats and made pretty good money. approx £5 per drop and you could do 4 drops per hour, then they just allowed more & more drivers on the platform until there was way too many & people were taking drops for like £3.
if you are registered at a certain postcode for amazon flex can you pick up other flex jobs say at another depot not too far from me. basically i signed up to knowsley area however where i live there is another depot north at the same distance. will i have access to both depots and pick up jobs else where?
Out of interest does it help drivers to select one of the compliment settings after a delivery? I normally do this but wonder if I am wasting my time or not?
Why aren't amazon paying for mileage??? Atleast £1 a mile. I was thinking of taking this up on top on my normal job, but it doesnt really seem worth it at those rates.
dont take it as full time job, i would say its like extra income, same with food delivery, with there you will need to work your ass of as it is not even close to minimum pay
Just send support a blanket email saying you clearly followed delivery instructions left by customer, so it is unfair you are getting penalised for doing your job. Usually they just reinstate your driver score
@@R6Edward3946 thanks for your reply man, I have a ford fiesta ecoboost 2 doors and it has 3 seats at the back, hopefully they won't say anything at the pick up spot.
Honestly I'm not too sure base rate looks that bad. I've driven DSP before you you're pocketing £105 for a full day like 12 hours door to do and you'll do 25-35 stops an hour, granted they are more clustered but easily 250-300 parcels in 8 hours then drive back time, you don't pay fuel etc. Wear and tear can be tax deducted I think you're realistically taking home £12-13 an hour, which if you've ever tried Uber eats etc I think is good, it's certainly less waiting in restaurants which is an unknown variable. I took over a year to get onto flex and I've got my first shift tonight 4 hours £66 which is base maybe I'll change my mind after that, they snap up fast here so it was the best way to give it a go.
Usually theyre numbered 1-40 (or however many parcels you have). I tend to do 1-10 in the front seat, 11-20 left side of boot, 21-30 middle boot, 31-40 right boot. Some people put all the letters on front seat, but to me thats confusing as they won’t be in order
Thanks for sharing your experience. Delivery jobs aren't worth it,Uber, Deliveroo, Amazon, and Just eat they all want to pay peanuts. You have no security in this jobs, and also you will destroy your vehicle.
I do Amazon flex in Birmingham and honestly I don’t think it’s too bad here. On average if I get a 4 hour block I get paid anywhere from £68 - £60. And I’ve done many of them in the past month and non of them I worked more than 2 hours for each of them I honestly think it’s all based on what area u deliver in. For my Birmingham works well. On average I’ve been getting £320+ weekly that’s with fuel and insurance costs, and for all the shifts I can do them in half the time it says
Yea that’s decent. Prime day coming up, make sure you leave it as late as possible to accept blocks. I got a £98 3 hour block last year. Took me 1 hour to complete
It clearly varies depending on where you are. I do the odd Amazon shift in Derby and Leicester but I’m based in Sth Notts. I get sent offers in Lincoln for peanuts and as far as Milton Keynes that aren’t worth driving nearly 2.0hr there for a 1.5h block. It’s just how their algorithms work….totally random.
On other day I don't a shift for 3.5 hours. Got 48 parcel in 48 location. Took me 4.5 hours so I done 1 hour extra. After that I decided never to do 3.5 hour or 4 hour shift. It is not worth it at all. Takes longer than the given time, high mileage, also they send me though hills, jungles farms like you showed on this video.
You guys are missing a trick. Our amazon driver robbed the whole street by replacing expensive parcels with cheap ones. Took my wife's iphone, a neighbour's PS5, a Garmin, etc. Police did nothing and it took over a month to get a refund.
At 1st you were supposed to be on a training route which is max 60 parcels,I started with 100,from 4 in the morning and I never got home till after 11pm every day for £90 !!!!!!!!
Lots of people going for this kind of work I guess, I mean there's LOADS of videos on youtube now talking about how easy it is to be on amazon flex, pretty soon its going to become an awful profession purely because its over saturated.
I stood up and got the sack, even being self employed 😅, they put me off the system for highlighting this nonsense...I will follow your progress, and if you get a petition I will sign it...
As you're self employed just claim the 45p per mile that HMRC allow. That would have been £30 on fuel and wear and tear thus massively lowering your income tax and making the shift a little bit more profitable.
@@tommywills that's always a wise idea. It prevents an unexpected tax bill at the end of the year and sometimes results in a rebate. Also don't forget to claim any other expenses. Such as a pair of wellington boots, a rain coat and anything else you need for that job.
First sell your car and get a hybrid or anything above 55mpg. Up to £12570 you are tax free so you shouldn't calculate with the worst case scenario. This is a business. If you're not doing it right it's obviously won't work. Nobody will give money for free. That's life. Do something else if it doesn't work for you
@@tommywills100% agree with this video. Getting surge rates is a case of knowing your depot and the times they get released. I drive a extra 20 miles to Edinburgh to pick them up. Just did a £73.50 for 3.30hr. likewise I have done a 2.5 hour for 40 and had one of the worst routes of my life (mid day shift) + 70 miles.
Not sure how you got your figures but definitely not as low as £8 an hour. More closer to £12 by my workings. Also Not sure where you got the £7.50 tax and also why you are adding a £5 deduction of wear and tear after your tax deduction.
@ where do you get the £7.50 tax number from though. Taxable amount on this is less than £4 and that’s not taking into account the tax free allowance. You’ve taxed yourself at 20% on the net amount and that’s wrong. HMRC gives you 45p a mile so that works out at £30.60. Minus that from the £49.50 for the shift and that gives you a taxable amount of £18.90 @20% and that’s worst case scenario
@ i overpay into my tax pot so I know I have enough. I don’t do the 45p deduction sum until the end of the tax year In short, i take note of my mileage and mpg, work out how much fuel ive spent using journeyprice.co.uk, deduct that off the block payment, then whatever is remaining gets taxed 20% and put in a separate pot. I know I will have money left over when it comes to my self assessment once i do the 45p a mile tax relief.
Not exactly accurate report, it seems you counted the 3 hours from when you left your house t getting home again, I for one travel approximately 3 hours every day to on from work which I don’t get paid for, also you moan about only bringing home 8.45 per hour, which is probably similar to people who earn minimum wage get, sorry but being a delivery driver is unskilled work
I looked into this.The insurance on car and maintenance.Having to have a good phone.Also you need to do that at minimum twice a day.Taking everything into account.I think £5 is low.Were can you hire a car phone and driver for 3 hours for £5.Then pay minimum wage of around £33 for the 3 hours.This shows how desperate people are to make some money.Very sad what this country has become.We are now a third world country.
We are becoming it slowly due to allowing third world people into the country. They then 4 hours a day on the books and cash in hand for the other 8 hours of the day for a measly £5 an hour.
They also don't mind doing overtime for minimum wage.
its KARMA for what you did to INDIA, funny how society fixes the wrongs, india is buying big UK companies economy now thriving, while UK is going down hill, maybe the brits can learn something from their history, your countries growth and prosperity is based on a foundation of turning other countries into 3rd world places such as india and other african nations, so its finally time that the brits got put in their place, to bad you cant start a war for no reason and invade countries for their GDP or their valuables, how much gold did the UK take from india how many diamonds did you take from africa, ill give you a hint its 3x our current GDP, look into your own history its a shocker how 80% of brits live in isolation of the true history of the british empire
its a curse of contracting jobs like amazon flex, there are always people who are willing to do jobs at a lower rate and with no unionisation it screws everyone else but the employers.
Probably they didn't have a clue it was the base rate..I'm brand new to flex not taken any offers yet as Amazon literally just yesterday emailed me the 'you're on board'letter and I'm away on holiday...,and,I for one,would have had absolutely no clue if it wasn't for this video,thanks for sharing..We must remain united and organized to stand against exploitation, ensuring we don’t end up working for almost nothing.
Thanks for taking us along. Great edit also! ((Considering taking on Flex as we speak, this content is proving very helpful))
My pleasure 🤝🏼
Hi
What is the right time to pick block?
Because nothing is availabe when i start refreshing
Thanks for the vid. I've just retired and found this sad, the opportunities available to me in the 80's are no longer available, ways to escape the grind. Worse, doing these types of jobs just covers the time for the man before you are made redundant by drones or robots. Totally depressing. 😢
I just switched my job from Uber eats to Amazon Flex, never considered base rate because I am a victim of Uber eats low paid job, instead I pick better offers at the right time and right place….many night shifts are well paid, seen one with 80 pounds for 3 and a half , not too bad
£20 should be a standard wage for this considering you have to pay your own petrol, sick pay, holiday pay, wage, car insurance....
Did my first two shifts yesterday
11:30 - 1:00 (1.5hrs)
3:00 - 6:30 (3.5hrs)
After expenses I made 30 pound for 5 hours work and 2 hours travel to depo’s and home
I never finished block until 7:00 so half an hour late and had to drive 20mins to drop an undelivered parcel back off so left depo at 7:20, home by 8
Left house at 10:30 and home by 8 on a Saturday for 30 quid 😂😂😂😂😂
I commented on a previous video saying that base rate is ok, well yesterday I took a base rate 4 hour block and it was 140 miles and 5 hours so im with you on this one now. Base rate isnt worth your time its too variable...
yep. they can really take the mick. if you got a decent surge price then sometimes it makes me feel a bit better about going over, but knowing you're not even making that much AND having to go over time, its a bit disheartening
trying to get on amazon flex.just eat.deliveroo etc but no shifts. got on with uber eats and my van broke down on the first day haha been borrowing my dads bmw x5 40d for the last few days think iv spent more on fuel than iv been paid lol
Definitely not cost-effective mate
I tried flex when I was made redundant a while back for "easy money" there's no money in it when you factor fuel and your time too and from. There's too many people accepting a base rate and they know this. Unless you live around the corner from a depot its not worth it. Found there navigation terrible also.
yeah all valid points. I live less than a mile away from depot and only do surge rates. If you're driving 30 mins to a depot for a base rate shift then there's absolutely no point. making like £20 for 3 hours work
I feel your pain mate!! The lanes I had to go down the other night was a joke mud tracks that wasn't even level 😢 increased rate but didn't finish early so they got there moneys worth!
Seems like every farm drop off has to include a half mile strip of deep potholes and poorly maintained hedges as well 😅
It depends where you are. I've had 3.5 hour shifts that have took 50mins to complete. Base rate is fine. If you waited for higher rates where I am, you would never be doing flex
Totally agree with the theory but if no one accepts base rates amazon will just take more drivers on to compensate. The ideal scenario is just enough people taking base rates so it doesnt make it difficult picking up an enhanced rate.
Can you link the the spreadsheet you mention in one of your flex vids cheers
Im very confuse,you said 3 hours of 49.50£...paid ,ok. This49.50 is minus your consumption(petrol or diesel)...you get maybe 25£
@@Al3xmsuk it is all broken down as basic as possible at the end of the video. £49.50, then minus expenses, tax and wear and tear, it worked out being around £25 take home pay, which is rubbish
Logistics or sub same day?@@tommywills
Hi there. I just watched your Flex TH-cam video. When it comes to working out your financials at the end, you are failing to add a claimable expense. You are failing to claim/deduct 45 pence for each mile you drove on that block. Therefore, 0.45 x 68 miles = £30.60 - deduct the £30.60 from the £49.50 = £18.90 minus 20% tax to pay of £3.78
You can also deduct mobile phone usage/car cleaning also which will reduce overall tax. Best you do some online research. Good luck & best wishes.
Hi Neil. Yes, I am aware of this. I always pay 20% tax into a pot each time I get paid, then when it comes to my self assessment, i claim back mileage and any other expense.
I will then likely have a nice amount left over once I have paid the correct tax.
You’re right though, should have mentioned it in the video
Also the tax is wrong as he has assumed 20% tax but it won't be 20% on all income due to personal allowance. (I don't know if there is a perfect way of distributing PA over the year for this type of work, but assuming 250 working days a year, it is £50 tax free income each day.)
With 45p a mile you won't be paying tax for 10k miles atleast
You need to come to Australia on a working holiday visa, if you are under 35/36. Casual barista/cafe/waiter jobs are 15 GBP per hour + 11% superannuation which you apply for after you go back home. Everyone is desperate for staff. That's not including weekend shift allowance/loading.
Aren’t things way more expensive in Australia? So the purchase power is worse than the UK even at £15 an hour?
@@tommywills yes, I lived in Melbourne and it's a rip
If you see some of the deliveries are going to be awkward or too far away just don't deliver them, don't even attempt them, turn your Internet off as mark as at location or can't find address and it will let you make it as undelivered even if you ain't near the property. Saves you hassle and damage to your car, take them back to the depot and you still get paid
But if you don't send a text or ring customer twice it will effect your rating?
Do that Twice and your flex account is gone!!! 😂 it tired it once and they emailed me 2 days later to say i was out of the delivery zone!! And if i do that again i will be banned from flex
You are the problem. Now I know why even though I live in an urban area sometimes I get no delivery.
Well if you know you live in an awkward place dont order. Orrrr order it to a locker where it gaurantees delivery and its not awkward for the driver. Dont get paid enough@stingersplash @stingersplash
I did this recently. The weather and fog was so bad and i was going through tight country lanes. I pulled over, called up flex support, told them the issue, and they said to return to the depot as it is unsafe to drive. I explicitly asked several times in the phonecall ‘will it affect my rating?’ To which they replied no.
3 days later and my score goes from excellent to average as ‘6 parcels were not delivered’.
Emailed amazon support and mentioned the phonecall and that i was told it wouldn’t affect my score. Just got generic robot emails back.
They are getting worse to work for by the week in terms of driver support
Honestly mate I wish I could decline base rate but they go instantly where I live. There is no chance of waiting for a better rate.
Mate i’m the same at the moment. The app is absolute tumbleweed at the minute, so any block that comes up i’m just accepting
Thank you sir! Great info this. I will try avoid the base rates!
Ive just signed up - i wont be taking any base rates! People need to just stand together and not do £8 hour base rate may as well deliver pizzas ha ha
Thanks for advice
Won't hapopen buddy as I'm happy with base
your delivering parcels mate. Exactly same as pizzas
Hi mate..can you please share your spreadsheet( it is automated)
I did my last shift while was raining, it was evening, I also almost fall in a garden because I couldn't see anything . They should pay more!!
Get a headtorch. Invaluable
HI, what is the year and cost of your car, how much would you spend on a car to do delivery work as a main source of income ?
Nice video, mate! I just wanted to ask-have you registered yourself as self-employed, or how do you handle things in terms of taxes? Also, what have you done regarding insurance? Are you using the hourly insurance that Amazon suggests, or have you arranged something else?
They don't ask to see your insurance. Not even worth trying to get business insurance you can't afford it.
You can earn 1k a year before tax comes into place. You could write all your car expenses off on tax
I am at the beginning of your video, and it is the same with Deliveroo, UberEats, etc. People are willing to accept the lowest possible base rates, and the rates have dropped significantly in recent times.
just done my first 2 blocks the past two days at base rate, didn't care too much because i just wanted to get my feet wet and see what amazon flex was all about, both where 3 hour blocks, finished my first in 2 hour 45 and second block in 2 hour 10 min
What about Business Insurance and car road tax as well , i know you calculate that 5 and you said is probably to much but i think is not actually too much considering that for doing amazon you need to pay a business insurance for carriage of good for hire and rewards. keep up the good work and keep up showing this message as basic rates are taken all over uk by some drivers that did not do any calculations at all and just taking shift to make sure that nobody else is takin them before them is like a challenge for them xd
When I signed and started delivering, I used to see lots of shifts, after doing my first 6 shifts though, I am barely seeing the one I want to do, and they go in second! any recommendation to grab them? I am thinking someone must be using bots, because they do go literally in a second while I am clicking on it !!
Around 4:50pm my area has surge rates. Keep refreshing between 5 and 6pm
People use bots to get the shifts, they cost money to get you those shifts. People are idiots, then money is already too low without paying for software to get you the pissss poor rates
I presume you have to have business insurance as your delivering parcels? how much extra does that cost?
Currently about £1.20 per hour. Gone up loads since i started a year ago. Was paying only 67p
@@tommywillsis there a company that will insure me just for the day? I don’t plan on doing many flex jobs so just need something really temporary
@tommywills, is your business insurance hourly? Can you please share the insurance company name and what sort of insurance you got 🤔
I just deliver for my local chinese. Cash in hand and free food at the end. I did amazon maybe 6 years ago in my car, it was a mugs game. It looks like they pay a little more now though, but im sticking with the noodles 😊
Even at base rate I'll get at least £25 an hour because you can easily knock an hour off the block time.
Sometimes, most times you deffo can't
Greetings from Manchester.
Companies these days don't care if you'll make money or not.
If you won't accept the rate they pay you won't get the job.
Plenty of fish out there who can grab anything offered.
That's how it is these days. Take it or leave it.
£50 for 17 parcels is a piece of cake though? I worked a year for Amazon and was paid £117 a day minus a fiver for the van and another fiver for whatever reason...you'd average 220-260 parcels and if you were unlucky you'd have 300+ parcels in 9 hours supposedly with breaks included, can tell you that doesn't exist lol and you're actually working 10+ hours with the time you initially rock up at the unit get the van ready, depot and load etc
As someone who only buys parcels and pays the postage how is it that you guys get hardly any of the fee. I just bought something and paid £6.99 for delivery.. if you're delivering 200+ parcels a day that's potentially a lot of dosh in delivery..
@@chester6343 because we get a set rate per day, they'll claim the money will be for "expenses" in transport etc, long story short the big boss at the Amazon company I worked for, TGK (as none of the amazon delivery vans are actually amazon, its all 3rd party to avoid responsibility) he was making 60-80k a week roughly after taking out the fuel and salary expenses for all our drivers, made a calculation when i got told how much he makes a day with all the vans and drivers lol and that's ONLY from the 1 depot, he had another TGK fleet at another depot all in Glasgow, then has a DPD fleet, a TGK mechanic shop etc etc safe to say the guy's making bank and he had the cheek to reduce our pay by £15 a day last year and up the parcel count, safe to say a lot of people including me left, I was a mechanic briefly till I had enough fixing other people's cars its not fun when its not your own lol so im at First bus now
The minimum wage is over £12 now. Any company paying less can be fined Big time - so if you are getting less, then complain and threaten to report them.
he is getting paid £16-50 an hour. More then me as a bus driver. so amazon are not breaking any laws its the outgoings. I will be on same an hour at end with my outgoings to travel to and from work daily in my car.
I work for Amazon Prime electric vans. 315 percels 160 stops every day. All that for £135(7-8hrs)
Would you say its worth it?
@tommywills hell nah
Also you haven't accounted for the mileage you can claim back. 45p/mile
I don’t take that into account when doing my initial costings after every shift. All my tax goes into separate pot to make sure I have enough, then i work out 45p a mile when I do my tax return
All these type of jobs are going the same way. I used to do Uber eats and made pretty good money. approx £5 per drop and you could do 4 drops per hour, then they just allowed more & more drivers on the platform until there was way too many & people were taking drops for like £3.
if you are registered at a certain postcode for amazon flex can you pick up other flex jobs say at another depot not too far from me. basically i signed up to knowsley area however where i live there is another depot north at the same distance. will i have access to both depots and pick up jobs else where?
Yea i get notifications from 2 depots
Out of interest does it help drivers to select one of the compliment settings after a delivery? I normally do this but wonder if I am wasting my time or not?
I never get this option
Why aren't amazon paying for mileage??? Atleast £1 a mile.
I was thinking of taking this up on top on my normal job, but it doesnt really seem worth it at those rates.
@@essmac3453 yea not worth it for those rates
dont take it as full time job, i would say its like extra income, same with food delivery, with there you will need to work your ass of as it is not even close to minimum pay
yea and you can only do 24 hours a week anyway, so definitely not enough for full time income even with surge pricing
How do you know what parcel didn’t get received by the customer? I’ve got some in my standing details but no idea how to see the details of it
Just send support a blanket email saying you clearly followed delivery instructions left by customer, so it is unfair you are getting penalised for doing your job. Usually they just reinstate your driver score
@@tommywills thanks for the advice
I bought a ford fiesta st 3 doors, can I still do amazonflex with this car? I'm very interested but I know there is a rule for small cars 😢
Yes. I have a fiesta. Mines a 5 door though. I know people with toyota aygos. It should be okay
@@mohammedathar9883 bro I've been waiting for them to get back to me, I've been waiting for a long time now, shall I create a second account?
Needs to be 5
Yes you can use it, I have a 3 door but aslong as it has 5 seats it's fine
@@R6Edward3946 thanks for your reply man, I have a ford fiesta ecoboost 2 doors and it has 3 seats at the back, hopefully they won't say anything at the pick up spot.
Honestly I'm not too sure base rate looks that bad. I've driven DSP before you you're pocketing £105 for a full day like 12 hours door to do and you'll do 25-35 stops an hour, granted they are more clustered but easily 250-300 parcels in 8 hours then drive back time, you don't pay fuel etc. Wear and tear can be tax deducted I think you're realistically taking home £12-13 an hour, which if you've ever tried Uber eats etc I think is good, it's certainly less waiting in restaurants which is an unknown variable. I took over a year to get onto flex and I've got my first shift tonight 4 hours £66 which is base maybe I'll change my mind after that, they snap up fast here so it was the best way to give it a go.
Been doing flex a year now and I’ve done max hours a week every week, never ever taken me anymore than half the block time
Can you sort the parcels as you load them in the car? Or is there no way to order them?
Usually theyre numbered 1-40 (or however many parcels you have). I tend to do 1-10 in the front seat, 11-20 left side of boot, 21-30 middle boot, 31-40 right boot.
Some people put all the letters on front seat, but to me thats confusing as they won’t be in order
Thanks for sharing your experience. Delivery jobs aren't worth it,Uber, Deliveroo, Amazon, and Just eat they all want to pay peanuts. You have no security in this jobs, and also you will destroy your vehicle.
Hi. Do I need a van or big car or can I do this with my ford fiesta
Yea you can. People do it in citroen c1’s
What car do you use?
Vauxhall astra
50 pound what a joke no way I'd do that
The amount of miles tour doing in the 3 hours is it worthbit for the fuel cost and your time bud
Not for that rate no
What insurance do you use for carrying amazons parcels ?
That music though. Why?
I do Amazon flex in Birmingham and honestly I don’t think it’s too bad here. On average if I get a 4 hour block I get paid anywhere from £68 - £60. And I’ve done many of them in the past month and non of them I worked more than 2 hours for each of them
I honestly think it’s all based on what area u deliver in. For my Birmingham works well. On average I’ve been getting £320+ weekly that’s with fuel and insurance costs, and for all the shifts I can do them in half the time it says
Yea that’s decent. Prime day coming up, make sure you leave it as late as possible to accept blocks. I got a £98 3 hour block last year. Took me 1 hour to complete
It clearly varies depending on where you are. I do the odd Amazon shift in Derby and Leicester but I’m based in Sth Notts. I get sent offers in Lincoln for peanuts and as far as Milton Keynes that aren’t worth driving nearly 2.0hr there for a 1.5h block.
It’s just how their algorithms work….totally random.
On other day I don't a shift for 3.5 hours. Got 48 parcel in 48 location. Took me 4.5 hours so I done 1 hour extra. After that I decided never to do 3.5 hour or 4 hour shift. It is not worth it at all. Takes longer than the given time, high mileage, also they send me though hills, jungles farms like you showed on this video.
Done*
I’m the same mate. I never accept a 3.5 hour unless its in the £80 bracket. I always go for 3 hour ones. They’re less likely to take the mick
I suppose though. You are out in the sticks ?
Inner city work may be better?
@@DeeTeaDee yeah possibly but it’s pot luck
if you dont take base rate, they'll take more people on that will accept base rate, you cant win
You guys are missing a trick. Our amazon driver robbed the whole street by replacing expensive parcels with cheap ones. Took my wife's iphone, a neighbour's PS5, a Garmin, etc. Police did nothing and it took over a month to get a refund.
Worst shift at 35 parcels.........I've worked at DPD Liverpool and my 1st shift had 100 parcels and went up every day from then upto 135 😂😂
Thats full time though i assume. Completely different
At 1st you were supposed to be on a training route which is max 60 parcels,I started with 100,from 4 in the morning and I never got home till after 11pm every day for £90 !!!!!!!!
Lots of people going for this kind of work I guess, I mean there's LOADS of videos on youtube now talking about how easy it is to be on amazon flex, pretty soon its going to become an awful profession purely because its over saturated.
Hypothetical when you admitted this is a shift that’s base rate
It’s base rate where I live
I stood up and got the sack, even being self employed 😅, they put me off the system for highlighting this nonsense...I will follow your progress, and if you get a petition I will sign it...
As you're self employed just claim the 45p per mile that HMRC allow. That would have been £30 on fuel and wear and tear thus massively lowering your income tax and making the shift a little bit more profitable.
Yeah i think i mention that at the end of the video, but i always put 20% away to ensure i have more than enough
@@tommywills that's always a wise idea. It prevents an unexpected tax bill at the end of the year and sometimes results in a rebate. Also don't forget to claim any other expenses. Such as a pair of wellington boots, a rain coat and anything else you need for that job.
Even a torch if you need one.
@@CosmicPrawny good idea 👌🏼
@@tommywills every little helps
First sell your car and get a hybrid or anything above 55mpg. Up to £12570 you are tax free so you shouldn't calculate with the worst case scenario. This is a business. If you're not doing it right it's obviously won't work. Nobody will give money for free. That's life. Do something else if it doesn't work for you
@@loading...2009 for most people the £12570 tax free amount doesnt apply as it’s a second job. Hybrids are also expensive to buy
you probably think some people can afford to turn down work, some other person will accept at the base rate anyways
At the end of the video i do say it’s hard not to accept the base rate when everyone else is doing the same. Its a tough one
@@tommywills100% agree with this video. Getting surge rates is a case of knowing your depot and the times they get released. I drive a extra 20 miles to Edinburgh to pick them up. Just did a £73.50 for 3.30hr. likewise I have done a 2.5 hour for 40 and had one of the worst routes of my life (mid day shift) + 70 miles.
Long term they lose man
This is why the whole courier industry needs to be fully Unionised.
@@Jaz-mm2yg agreed
Until the consumer ends up paying £25 for a delivery and a private company makes more sense.
Surely they are breaking the law when mum wage is 11 plus ?
If you are employed full time. These drivers are self employed so that doesn't count.
SHOCKING ! = 💩 Rate its a race to the bottom, but a win win for the mighty AMAZON.... 💰
Not sure how you got your figures but definitely not as low as £8 an hour. More closer to £12 by my workings. Also Not sure where you got the £7.50 tax and also why you are adding a £5 deduction of wear and tear after your tax deduction.
@@RosskoPeeko i literally broke it down
@ where do you get the £7.50 tax number from though. Taxable amount on this is less than £4 and that’s not taking into account the tax free allowance.
You’ve taxed yourself at 20% on the net amount and that’s wrong. HMRC gives you 45p a mile so that works out at £30.60. Minus that from the £49.50 for the shift and that gives you a taxable amount of £18.90 @20% and that’s worst case scenario
@ i overpay into my tax pot so I know I have enough. I don’t do the 45p deduction sum until the end of the tax year
In short, i take note of my mileage and mpg, work out how much fuel ive spent using journeyprice.co.uk, deduct that off the block payment, then whatever is remaining gets taxed 20% and put in a separate pot.
I know I will have money left over when it comes to my self assessment once i do the 45p a mile tax relief.
Cant think of anything worse than doing 35 parcels in this, bro i do 300 in that daily hahaha its awful isn't it
Amazon UK has single-handedly put the British High Street out of commission.
No chance 🤣 it's simply not worth it
Init
Amazon does same to all.in firstly year it will give you plenty jobs and theb slowly it will give you less and less.
😮
for this money 😂😂😂 you must be joking this slaves money
It's rubbish. Getting the work is not easy and they pile on the parcels per hour. Rubbish slave labour x
Its been a bit rubbish recently. 2.5 hours im working closer to 3 hours and getting sent really far
there taking the piss
Not exactly accurate report, it seems you counted the 3 hours from when you left your house t getting home again, I for one travel approximately 3 hours every day to on from work which I don’t get paid for, also you moan about only bringing home 8.45 per hour, which is probably similar to people who earn minimum wage get, sorry but being a delivery driver is unskilled work
Driving is a skill🎉
@roberthilton172
Not a car driving local, HGV is obviously highly skilled and get paid accordingly
@@andrewtaylor5962 driving a car is a skill, no one mentioned hgv drivers
@@andrewtaylor5962 Driving is a skill, who mentioned HGV drivers
@@andrewtaylor5962 I I am an hgv driver the pay is pish
Christ how much do these delivery drivers wanna get paid £20 an hour lol
A fair wage would be alright
Moaning much? Simple solution really, don't like it, don't do it!
@@FireyFlooring whole point of the video was to show why it’s not worth doing at the current rates
Send cars to farms as vans can’t get there ?? Div !!! Tractors fly then do they ??? Boring Welsh plank 😂
@@Rainman-lf6ir chill out mate 😂
Rainmaker shut your mouth
What a nightmare the world has turned into. Bring back the shops please.