Due to a lot of comments I’ve been getting, I’m here to clear up an error I said in the video. I state that N127NK was the “first and only skydiving jet in the world”. This is technically untrue. Military jet planes take military skydivers all the time. What I should have said was “this is the only jet in the world detected to civilian skydiving.” Sorry about the misunderstanding!
Way back in 1966 I flew in an aircraft for the first time ever. It was a Douglas DC-9 that I boarded as a Seaman Recruit at the former USNTC San Diego (Naval Training Center- San Diego = Navy "boot camp") on my first leave after graduating from boot camp. I was flying to San Francisco and the aircraft flew right over Perris.
DC9-21 was made only for SAS and served for many years in Scandinavia. I’m a pilot in SAS and have actually flown this particular aircraft during the 90s. MCDonnel Douglas aircraft’s are supercool and the DC9s where really fun to fly:)
Used to work for SAS. We had DC9-21 and even more DC9-41. Fantastic and legendary workhorse. Then SAS changed to MD81-82-83-87 and even MD90. All fantastic planes.
I didn't know they had a restaurant there. I will have to check it out to try to check out the jet. I live in Menifee, so I am close. I can see some taxiway and runway improvements coming in the near future. When it pulls in, it has to go out in the dirt, not a good thing long term from the front landing gear to have to deal with that over and over. I bet the turn arounds at the end of the runway are probably the same way since the airport was never designed to field something that big.
Awesome show. What a thrill to see those old smokey JT8-Ds whine down the runway. You caught a great shot of the wing tip vortices as she rotated. But my favorite shot was the guy on his phone when history was made. Oy.
SUPERCOOL that you have the interest in this old aircraft. My uncle was an electrical engineer who retired from the McDonnell Douglas plant in Lakewood/Long Beach in 2005. I so wish you would have been able to video the skydivers jumping from this aircraft. WOW, what a rush that would have been for you. Always wanted to SkyDive Perris, but no one wanted to jump with me. I must return to check that off the bucketlist. It's just so funky some of the airframes they have to SkyDive from. On another note..if you're a aviation history buff check out the Evergreen Aviation and Space Museum in Oregon. The largest wooden aircraft, Spruce Goose, built by Howard Hughes during WW2 is on display there. It's in my neck of the woods and considering it came from Long Beach, my hometown, I try to visit her every year.
I've flown this beauty back in 2004 from Cancun to Mexico City with Aeromexico and my seat was right to the right engine (sounded incredible) it was such and unforgettable experience!!! 🇲🇽🛫♥️☺️😘
This HOTROD DC-9-20 is also very rare! Only 10 were built and this is the only example flying. There are a few baby DC-9-10's still used as freighters but these are also down to just a handful. I wonder if Perris will show this plane off at air shows across the country? Also I wonder if because of the rear modifications it can still be pressurized?
@@michaelmichniak127 N127NK is the only surviving airframe of any of the DC-9-20 series (all built as Model 21). There are maybe 7 or 8 DC-9-10s (the more common "baby" DC-9) still flying and several more in storage, but this is the only -20. What a great thing they've done here!
This plane have fuselage from DC9-15, and wing and engines from DC9-30. So overpowered. During summer 1982 SAS rented to TAT for flying south of France from Paris Orly ORY to Beziers BZR. Taken video super8mm and pictures. Takeoff and landing runs less than 1200meters (4000 ft)😮😮
Oh wow! I wish I knew this was going to happen, I would have went out there! Thanks for making this video. Are they going to put the plane into service or was this just a one-day thing?
I have time in the -10, -30 and the -50 and the -10 was my favorite. The -10 was a hotrod and the -50 a dog. All of the Douglas aircraft were built with the pilot in mind.
A DC9 with older, low-bypass turbofans, is probably more efficient, than the newer massive high bypass fans they use today on say a Neo or Max, when operating at low altitude / short cycle flights. Those huge new engines don't really shine until they reach 20K feet, and are most happy at 30K+ feet. As to reaching the 3K to drop skydivers, the older smaller ratio engines would have a huge drag advantage. Also, with a capacity of over 100 passengers, it would take 5 or 6 cycles on the clunky twin engine piston planes, to drop the same "load" Plus the jet gets um up and dropped much faster, boosting efficiency. And jets are just cooler! 😄
I have had many flights as a passenger on DC9's. I always liked that jet more than any boeing plane. They were comfortable, a little loud if you were in the bask, but a nice plane.
I used to fly in these all of the time when Delta had them and Hawaiian air. And also, Northwest. No computers to help you fly so the new airbus people would not know how to fly a real plane it would freak them out.
But every time, it's a *narrow* field takeoff! The runway is only 50 feet wide, which is only one third the width of typical jet runways. Although the DC-9 wheel track is only about 17 feet, that gives you 16 feet of leeway on each side . Keeping it on the pavement in a one-engine failure would be very challenging. Also limits the crosswinds that the captain is going to be willing to accept. But for nice weather like Perris usually has, the DC-9-20's excellent performance makes this operation overall pretty acceptable. It seems like they have very good maintenance and flight crew. What a great accomplishment!
The first Jet to be based at a drop zone. I have a dozen jumps out of Boeing jets in the nineties. The real DB Cooper, who did both 727 jumps in the seventies, therefore, she is not the world’s first
Hold up! You got the pusuback,(could have edited9 taxi out,(ok) takeoff, ( Zoom wouldn't hurt) Jumpers a hundred feet aglL, ( you wish you was juming then) plane landing. 😢 One guess on what would have been great..... Give up? THE ACTUAL JUMP., then the landing. Just saying. Thanks for sharing. Love the "Baby Niner"!
First and only skydiving jet in the world? Umm... No. Neither. As someone who has jumped out of jets numerous times, I'm highly confident that is a false statement. Not even the first skydiving commercial passenger jet. History does not start at your own birthdate.
Doing some research, I cannot find any info on passenger skydiving jets before this DC-9. Also, on Perris Airport's website, it states, "You won't find another Douglas DC9-21 outfitted for jumpers. yes, you read that right: our Douglas DC9 is the only privately owned commercial transport category Twin Jet skydiving aircraft in the world." If you know of another, please let me know, but this is the only info I've found.
@@The_Autistic_Historian Well…. the most famous/infamous one would be the exit of DB Cooper out of a 727 stairwell. Less known would be a FRONT door exit by Spider Wrenn back in the mid 1970s I believe. Then there are many special ops activities, both training and operational, that are associated with covert insertions via airliner using HALO equipment. And finally, if we are counting military jets, then there are literally tens of thousands of jumps made from C141s, C17s and at least a few (including one I made personally) from the odd C5A or B. The one thing that they all have in common though is a significantly higher exit speed than the typical jump aircraft; sometimes so much higher that the optimal body position for exit is the proverbial cannonball position so that one’s limbs are not at risk of injury. You actually slow down to terminal velocity from a few of the zippier aircraft.
@@The_Autistic_Historian There was an Express One Boeing 727 that was used for skydiving in the early 1990s. Here's the video link: th-cam.com/video/2E-sakwt7ow/w-d-xo.html Perrris Skydive correctly qualifies N127NK as the only "privately owned commercial transport category TWIN Jet skydiving aircraft in the world".
Due to a lot of comments I’ve been getting, I’m here to clear up an error I said in the video.
I state that N127NK was the “first and only skydiving jet in the world”. This is technically untrue. Military jet planes take military skydivers all the time. What I should have said was “this is the only jet in the world detected to civilian skydiving.” Sorry about the misunderstanding!
Way back in 1966 I flew in an aircraft for the first time ever. It was a Douglas DC-9 that I boarded as a Seaman Recruit at the former USNTC San Diego (Naval Training Center- San Diego = Navy "boot camp") on my first leave after graduating from boot camp. I was flying to San Francisco and the aircraft flew right over Perris.
DC9-21 was made only for SAS and served for many years in Scandinavia. I’m a pilot in SAS and have actually flown this particular aircraft during the 90s. MCDonnel Douglas aircraft’s are supercool and the DC9s where really fun to fly:)
Agreed. Flew the -30s and -717.
Fly also with DC9-15 british midland,MD88 Delta, MD87Spanair, and the last and better B717 aka MD95❤volotea
I worked at Northwest Airlines. We had 182 DC-9s. Awesome aircraft.
My first jet ride was in the summer of 1968 on a DC-9 as a 13 year old! Plenty excited!
Used to work for SAS. We had DC9-21 and even more DC9-41. Fantastic and legendary workhorse. Then SAS changed to MD81-82-83-87 and even MD90. All fantastic planes.
I didn't know they had a restaurant there. I will have to check it out to try to check out the jet. I live in Menifee, so I am close. I can see some taxiway and runway improvements coming in the near future. When it pulls in, it has to go out in the dirt, not a good thing long term from the front landing gear to have to deal with that over and over. I bet the turn arounds at the end of the runway are probably the same way since the airport was never designed to field something that big.
You did a great job putting together this awesome documentary! Excellent emotional appeal to your audience!
Fun to watch I have about 6000 hrs flying those things makes me reminisce.Lots of great aircraft.
Nice job documenting a historic event in aviation and skydiving.
Great video! Nice to see her fly again!
Awesome show. What a thrill to see those old smokey JT8-Ds whine down the runway. You caught a great shot of the wing tip vortices as she rotated. But my favorite shot was the guy on his phone when history was made. Oy.
I think he was controlling a drone camera.
Keep up the great work buddy!
SUPERCOOL that you have the interest in this old aircraft. My uncle was an electrical engineer who retired from the McDonnell Douglas plant in Lakewood/Long Beach in 2005. I so wish you would have been able to video the skydivers jumping from this aircraft. WOW, what a rush that would have been for you. Always wanted to SkyDive Perris, but no one wanted to jump with me. I must return to check that off the bucketlist. It's just so funky some of the airframes they have to SkyDive from. On another note..if you're a aviation history buff check out the Evergreen Aviation and Space Museum in Oregon. The largest wooden aircraft, Spruce Goose, built by Howard Hughes during WW2 is on display there. It's in my neck of the woods and considering it came from Long Beach, my hometown, I try to visit her every year.
SAS DC9's were a hotrod version designed to operate from some shorter runways in Scandinavia
I've flown this beauty back in 2004 from Cancun to Mexico City with Aeromexico and my seat was right to the right engine (sounded incredible) it was such and unforgettable experience!!! 🇲🇽🛫♥️☺️😘
Great take-off and landing, Captain!
I was fortunate to jump out of the DC9 on its first load back.
,Love the old school thrust reversers.
Great video!
My Dad flew all the models for Eastern. His favorite plane in the fleet!
But not the -21. That was a special order of only 10 aircraft for SAS.
Great video, and thanks for featuring my footage.
I was out here as well, I’m the guy with the green sunglasses and camera with a mic.
How can it be your footage if you are the one beeing filmed ?
@@12345fowlerMy footage was shot on the 8th, 3 days prior to this flight on the 11th.
I haven’t uploaded the footage I shot on the 11th yet.
Forgive a possibly dumb question. But does the pilot have to do something to compensate for the change in the load when the jumpers go?
@@lindagieseler9566 I don’t think so. I flew on one of its loads, and I didn’t feel any shift in wight or anything like that
Impressive, a short field for an airliner.
DC-9-21. Manufactured for SAS. Basically a "baby " DC-9 with the -30 wing-extended span along with leading edge slats .
This HOTROD DC-9-20 is also very rare! Only 10 were built and this is the only example flying. There are a few baby DC-9-10's still used as freighters but these are also down to just a handful. I wonder if Perris will show this plane off at air shows across the country? Also I wonder if because of the rear modifications it can still be pressurized?
@@michaelmichniak127 N127NK is the only surviving airframe of any of the DC-9-20 series (all built as Model 21). There are maybe 7 or 8 DC-9-10s (the more common "baby" DC-9) still flying and several more in storage, but this is the only -20. What a great thing they've done here!
I wonder if it has undergone the major AD note inspection of the lower wing assy splice joints.
This plane have fuselage from DC9-15, and wing and engines from DC9-30. So overpowered.
During summer 1982 SAS rented to TAT for flying south of France from Paris Orly ORY to Beziers BZR. Taken video super8mm and pictures. Takeoff and landing runs less than 1200meters (4000 ft)😮😮
Great video.. Thank you!
Where did they find a Sim for the 9? Not to mention a pilot current in the plane?
Love the brake torque. I remember the days when the DC-9 was state of the art. Great short field performer. And sheer beauty, grace, and elegance. ⌛😿
I flew on a DC 9 & 10 back in the 90s
Oh wow! I wish I knew this was going to happen, I would have went out there! Thanks for making this video. Are they going to put the plane into service or was this just a one-day thing?
I have time in the -10, -30 and the -50 and the -10 was my favorite. The -10 was a hotrod and the -50 a dog. All of the Douglas aircraft were built with the pilot in mind.
You would have been shocked by how more powerful the -21 was, using the -10 fuselage and -30 wings and engines.
I can’t imagine how the operating costs of flying this elderly DC9 make this a financially practical skydiving venture. Maybe that’s just me…
A DC9 with older, low-bypass turbofans, is probably more efficient, than the newer massive high bypass fans they use today on say a Neo or Max, when operating at low altitude / short cycle flights. Those huge new engines don't really shine until they reach 20K feet, and are most happy at 30K+ feet. As to reaching the 3K to drop skydivers, the older smaller ratio engines would have a huge drag advantage. Also, with a capacity of over 100 passengers, it would take 5 or 6 cycles on the clunky twin engine piston planes, to drop the same "load" Plus the jet gets um up and dropped much faster, boosting efficiency. And jets are just cooler! 😄
I have had many flights as a passenger on DC9's. I always liked that jet more than any boeing plane. They were comfortable, a little loud if you were in the bask, but a nice plane.
Delivered to SAS 5/1/69.
BEAUTIFUL!
I was inside that particular load.
Looks like the tug was a forklift. Great video.
Dad flew in C-9s nightingale in air force in 70s . Medical aircraft
I used to fly in these all of the time when Delta had them and Hawaiian air. And also, Northwest. No computers to help you fly so the new airbus people would not know how to fly a real plane it would freak them out.
There a plenty of pilots that can fly a DC9
How many DC9 pilots want to fly this one?
Probably few!
Pretty cool!
Hughes Air West and Aeromexico used to fly those.
Not the -21, but maybe a different version.
was it a short field takeoff?
5,100 feet of runway, so I would say yes. But this specific plane was designed for short runways
But every time, it's a *narrow* field takeoff! The runway is only 50 feet wide, which is only one third the width of typical jet runways. Although the DC-9 wheel track is only about 17 feet, that gives you 16 feet of leeway on each side . Keeping it on the pavement in a one-engine failure would be very challenging. Also limits the crosswinds that the captain is going to be willing to accept. But for nice weather like Perris usually has, the DC-9-20's excellent performance makes this operation overall pretty acceptable. It seems like they have very good maintenance and flight crew. What a great accomplishment!
Observer: "Nice airplane, but doesn't it hurt your ears?"
Fan: "Yeah!"
The MD-95 (Boeing 717) is the same airplane as the DC-9.
They are in the same family, but they are more of a distant cousin together with the MD80 (DC-9-80)
this is at our airport!
Can't find any old sky jockeys from Midwest Express to get her up?
Thanks for sharing
Epic!
I must say I like airplanes too much to jump out of a perfectly good one
The first Jet to be based at a drop zone. I have a dozen jumps out of Boeing jets in the nineties. The real DB Cooper, who did both 727 jumps in the seventies, therefore, she is not the world’s first
What a carbon footprint!
more like a carbon pathway
It doesn’t matter, you lib weirdos. Go live your life!
DC-9= LOUD!
Nah.
Don't get why people jump out of a perfectly good plane.
Because your jumpmaster used his number 12 boot to kick you out of that Herky Bird……so we learn in the military…..😅😅😅
Because the jumpmaster kicked you out of that Herky Bird on you first jump…….and so it is in the military😅😅😅😅.
Stay on Mommy's couch.....
Well, because. And there’s no such thing as a ‘perfectly good plane,’ lol.
@@buckerjungmann and sometimes pilots!
I flew on trips in this one lots of times
Very noisy
Hold up!
You got the pusuback,(could have edited9
taxi out,(ok) takeoff, ( Zoom wouldn't hurt)
Jumpers a hundred feet aglL, ( you wish you was juming then)
plane landing.
😢
One guess on what would have been great.....
Give up?
THE ACTUAL JUMP., then the landing.
Just saying.
Thanks for sharing.
Love the "Baby Niner"!
4800 ft runway and that’s if you use all of it. No thanks.
not she...he...
What’s the difference? Everyone calls planes “she”
@@The_Autistic_Historian This aircraft is Siger Viking. That is a male name.
First and only skydiving jet in the world? Umm... No. Neither. As someone who has jumped out of jets numerous times, I'm highly confident that is a false statement. Not even the first skydiving commercial passenger jet. History does not start at your own birthdate.
Doing some research, I cannot find any info on passenger skydiving jets before this DC-9. Also, on Perris Airport's website, it states, "You won't find another Douglas DC9-21 outfitted for jumpers. yes, you read that right: our Douglas DC9 is the only privately owned commercial transport category Twin Jet skydiving aircraft in the world." If you know of another, please let me know, but this is the only info I've found.
C-141 baby!
Kevin, bit of a dickish comment eh? Do better
@@The_Autistic_Historian Well…. the most famous/infamous one would be the exit of DB Cooper out of a 727 stairwell. Less known would be a FRONT door exit by Spider Wrenn back in the mid 1970s I believe. Then there are many special ops activities, both training and operational, that are associated with covert insertions via airliner using HALO equipment. And finally, if we are counting military jets, then there are literally tens of thousands of jumps made from C141s, C17s and at least a few (including one I made personally) from the odd C5A or B. The one thing that they all have in common though is a significantly higher exit speed than the typical jump aircraft; sometimes so much higher that the optimal body position for exit is the proverbial cannonball position so that one’s limbs are not at risk of injury. You actually slow down to terminal velocity from a few of the zippier aircraft.
@@The_Autistic_Historian There was an Express One Boeing 727 that was used for skydiving in the early 1990s. Here's the video link:
th-cam.com/video/2E-sakwt7ow/w-d-xo.html
Perrris Skydive correctly qualifies N127NK as the only "privately owned commercial transport category TWIN Jet skydiving aircraft in the world".
hello, how can I contact you to talk?
I am from Russia and I’m thrilled how well you speak english without an accent
Dont you mean the first "civilian" jet skydivers jump from?? Skydivers have jumped out of Military jets for many years.
Yes. This plane is the only jet in the world dedicated to civilian skydiving at a drop zone
So amazing plane 😢❤️❤️❤️❤️