When they find Captain Croziers journal in one of those drawers and it reads "Today 11th June 1847 our Sir John had his leg ripped off and he was then thrown down a hole by a massive white bear like creature. Today was not a good day"
@@xotl2780 he's referring to the novel and TV miniseries, The Terror. Which postulates a sticky end for the sailors. If you haven't read it or seen it it is worth it.
The tripod and large case at 5:15 may be the Terror's daguerreotype camera. As such, if they can locate and retrieve the copper plates for the camera there may be photos that the crew took. Very interesting!
Probably nothing on them, the metals in the plates would have leeched out in small quanities and destroyed the photos. But your probably right about it being the camera good eye
The sight of Crozier's desk has raised hopes (which I share!) that the ship's log may somehow have survived in the ice waters. However, when the crew finally abandoned the Terror to attempt an overland escape they are likely to have taken the ships logs with them as the definitive record of their voyage. Still, there's always hope!
Apparently, in those times they were in the habit of making several duplicates of expedition logs for this very reason. One of the holy grails of the Franklin case has always been at least one copy of the ships' logs hidden somewhere ashore in King William Island which researchers are convinced MUST be there somewhere - or at least, have been. Therefore, it would be logical that a copy - or rather, the original which would be getting no more entries anyway - of the log would have been left aboard both ships as well. It has to be remembered that they could not know the future fate of the ships, it's not like they were abandoned because there was anything wrong with them. It would have probably been against both regulation and custom to completely remove the logs from a ship in that situation.
Its not unlikely they left a copy on Terror. She was boarded up and left in a sheltered Cove in the Ice and the truth is they may have considered a chance that she would have been recovered at some point.
I still think Crozier would have left a message in his desk had any rescuers found the ships so they'd have an idea of what direction he took the survivors and his goal. If Peglar's journal was found with writing still legible out in the open land, imagine the near perfect state the cold water will have on anything in Crozier's work desk. I bet the tripod is the expedition's camera-copper plate images were recovered from other shipwrecks so it'll be fascinating if they can recover actual photos.
@@andyzx9682 I saw a nice interview with an Inuit Franklin researcher regarding that. He acknowledged, along with a European colleague, that the Inuit oral traditions are extremely hard to understand because of their language's paucity of words describing when things happened.
It's a story as old as time. How many times have modern archaeologists bragged about some amazing new discovery and its revealed shortly after the locals had been telling them about it for hundreds of years. They always say they just thought it was folklore or a legend they were describing
@@user-lk2qf4rt3m Where did you read that they despoiled graves and fed their dogs with the bodies? As I understand it, few of the bodies were given graves, but rather the men simply died where they lay. I've never heard of the dogs being fed on the dead, either.
Thrilling first look into the Terror, can't wait to see the documents in that desk! Howard Carter on first peering into Tut's tomb: ""Can you see anything?", it was all I could do to get out the words "Yes, wonderful things".
You will never see the “documents” in that desk because anyone with a brain highly doubts the survivors left such important documents behind after MONTHS. No clue where you even got that idea from.
Amazing to think that while the Titanic sank, while we had WW1, WW2, first man on the moon, the internet... this ship was under water in perfect condition still existing
The blue and white pottery (most famously from China) had been widely imitated and produced in Europe for over a century by that time, so frankly it'd be more surprising if there weren't any on that ship...
The show was really fastidious on the historical accuracy despite the fantastical elements. They built the ship set based exactly on the floor plan of the real terror! It's quite beautiful how great a job the showrunners did, and it makes the show feel so alive.
Update- they found his journal and it's final entry was quite telling. It's said " Here we sit, at great loss. Trying to shit out penguin sauce. When it comes we hope, we pray. It will not blow our asses away".
Wow ! such clear footage of this most famous explorers ship, I take my hat off to you brave scuba divers for bringing this unique film to us mere mortals.
@@7316bobe depth of 69-79 feet actually ( 21-24 meters ). In arctic freezing waters... Need a lot of scuba training to do what they are doing, and specific training for wreck diving.
I think there would be a good argument to raise HMS Terror and her sister ship, HMS Erebus as both vessels are of significant historical value, seemingly well preserved and neither are classed as war graves as they were abandoned by their crews. Depending on the condition of the ships and the motivation to do so, I don't see why they couldn't do it because as someone else here wrote, they wont be around forever. Because in 1961 the Vasa - a 17th century Swedish Naval vessel that had sank in Stockholm harbor in 1628 was raised - mostly intact, salvaged, preserved and is now a museum piece in Sweden. The Vasa was 226 foot long, displaced over 1200 tons and despite being wholly of a wood construction, not sitting in year round freezing water and having sat on the sea floor for nearly 350 years, was sturdy enough to raise. By comparison, HMS Terror is less than HALF that size at 102 feet long, displaced 325 tons AND had her construction augmented by steel frame reinforcement throughout the hull supposedly to help her survive the ice on the expedition... never mind the fact the wreck is half the age of the VASA and the preserving qualities of year round freezing cold arctic water. The wreck as is could survive for a couple hundred more years but even though she's in a protected area, it's only a matter of time before illegal salvage strips her of anything of historical value... Get it done, Canada.
Illegal salvage? 😅😅😅 Do you think Terror Bay is akin to English Bay in downtown Vancouver? Remote, desolate, unpopulated, hard to reach most of the year, devoid of shipping traffic - all these things that kept the ships from being found for over a century will continue to keep them out of reach.
@@misterslats Who said anything about Illegal Salvage, laughing boy? I'm an attorney with experience in maritime law and deep sea salvage operations... I'm also a qualified level 9. Master scuba diving trainer and spent time in Antarctic waters years ago when I served in the military before my legal career. And whether you accept it or not, where there is a will, there is a way and if sufficiently motivated, recovering these two small ships from their shallow graves would not be too problematic. There just has to be the motivation to do it and a gentleman's agreement between the UK & Canadian governments. But I guess when you have a Prime Minister too preoccupied with safe spaces, woke words, removing people's civil liberties, taking away their guns, using wartime laws to quash peaceful protests etc etc.. then I guess preserving a small part of 100 year old colonial history falls pretty low on the list of priorities.
Stunning imagery. Beautiful and,at the same time,both haunting and sad.Brave men who ventured into an unknown wilderness,never to return. It kind of gets to you,you know?
@@jaffabaffa From Wikipedia: Franklin expedition "In 1845,Francis Crozier joined Rear-Admiral Sir John Franklin as captain of the Terror on the Franklin expedition to traverse the last unnavigated section of the Northwest Passage. After Franklin's death in June 1847, he took command of the expedition, and his fate and those of the other expedition members remained a mystery until 1859, when a note written by Crozier and James Fitzjames, captain of the Erebus, was discovered on King William Island during an expedition led by Sir Francis McClintock. Dated 25 April 1848, the note indicated that the ships-stuck in ice-had been abandoned. Nine officers, including John Franklin, and 15 crewmen had died. Also stated was their intention, on 26 April, to set out for Back's Great Fish River on the Canadian mainland.[6] Unverified Inuit reports collected between 1852 and 1858 indicate that Crozier and one other expedition member were seen in the Baker Lake area, about 400 kilometres (250 mi) to the south, where, in 1948, Farley Mowat found "a very ancient cairn, not of normal Eskimo construction," inside which were shreds of a hardwood box with dovetail joints.[7] McClintock and later searchers found relics, graves, and human remains of the Franklin crew on Beechey Island, King William Island, and the northern coast of the Canadian mainland, but no survivors." Basically, they abandoned the Erebus and Terror in an attempt to walk out of the Arctic.So, no, there are no human remains aboard either ship.
If the documents show that the ship was under attack from the Inuit then we will never be let find out about it. They are Parks Canada's new best friends.
Never in my life did I think either ship would be found. Simply incredible to think we could someday know more about what happened if they're able to find documents.
I do wonder that too but I've always thought that the Inuit might have taken any documents or ship logs left on board after they were abandoned. I hope not though....
@@EireForTheIrishProbably not, considering the inuit couldn't read the documents. There was a metal box that the inuit did find on land, left by the expedition, which contained documents, but these ended up simply being destroyed because they did not understand the significance of the Englishmens' papers and books. So I'm not convinced that the inuit who boarded the terror shortly after it was abandoned would've raided the books. Rather they were known to have taken tools, silverware and metal pieces.
It has been suggested that documents that have lain in drawers may, once recovered, treated and processed, be fully legible for historians, archivists and researchers to read! The wrecks are a literal treasure trove of original documents, artefacts and equipment of immense historical significance and I believe that they should be salvaged in their entirety, raised intact from the seabed and preserved for future generations. The expertise and technology exists to raise both wrecks and this should be achieved whilst the wrecks themselves are in a recoverable condition.
But all the crew got off and started a trek toward the South - I don't imagine any important records would have been left behind, especially by Crozier.
I read Dan Simmons' novel a few months ago an also saw the seried "The Terror". It's unbelievable how well preserved the ship wracks are. Thank you for your work and research. But moreover, I was shocked, when I realized, that not even two centuries had passed since then, and all the glaciers an the packing ice, who doomed Franklin and his expedition, are already gone. I knew that the Northwest Passage was free nowadays, but I wasn't expecting that the area is completely free of ice during summertime.
Actually, it is said that it was free during summers back then as well. They just came there in the few years it was colder and didn't melt in between.
Dude, the expedition got trapped in Ice, since those 2 winters were among the coldest, it was not normal back then that the Ice didnt melt in summer, thats what doomed them
It is interesting that the men that were supposed to be starving to death left firearms hanging on the wall in the cabin. I was under the impression that there was Caribou, Polar Bears, Seals, Birds, and a number of other animals that could have been hunted for food.
@@7316bobe Also after such a long journey, numerous deaths and possibly a lot of sick sailors it is very much possible that they just weren't thinking straight.
@@tolga1cool In the book Frozen in Time where they dug up the 3 Franklin Expedition members on Beechey Island the hair samples from the bodies showed from the hair's rate of growth that the lead in the bodies of those 3 men was only slightly elevated. The samples taken from the bones of other crewmen taken off King William Island to check for lead found the lead levels elevated to higher than normal but only marginally higher than crewmen that served aboard other ships in the British navy and they had not gone mad. It must be remembered that in those days all the water piping aboard the ships was made of lead. On those old ships there was literally tons of lead that was used every where something might rust, and even the wash basins in the kitchens were made of lead. I think that something else happened to cause this expedition to fail and exactly what that was is still not known.
@@tolga1cool Do not forget that another ship and crew was stuck in the ice for 4 years and still made it home to England again. They were eventually picked up by a whale ship with all the crew still alive. 4 years is 1 year longer than the men of the Franklin Expedition, that deserted there ships after only 3 years. It is not known why the Franklin Expedition crews deserted there ships to go on a death march because when they left England the food supply was big enough to last everybody for over 4 years and could be rationed out to 5 years in an emergency.
I saw a documentary on the Franklin Expedition as a child and it really stuck with me. I'm not Canadian but I still think it's fascinating. Those ships were missing for so long! The discovery was so exciting! Every summer I check to see what they've found.
Sunken ships are always so eerie, almost as if you can still see what their window in time looks like.. you can almost imagine hearing a fiddle being played whilst accompanied by raucous shouting and merriment as you pass through the now long silent corridors.. ghostly is the word for it
Whenever I see footage from exceptionally well preserved sunken ships like the HMS Terror. I always kinda expect to see someone just casually walk around from the next corner. As if nothing had ever happened.
This is amazing. I've been fascinated with these ships since I read several books on the Franklin expedition over a decade ago. Most of these mysteries go unsolved.
I'm terrified of deep water so I'd be a crap sailor 😄 Still fascinating to observe such incredible underwater scenes from the safety and comfort of my sofa. Just learned about this voyage a couple of days ago and now watching every documentary there is on it, absolutely enthralled with this expedition. Thank you so much for giving us a good look down there, it's totally incredible to see the bottles, plates, guns etc sitting there abandoned for the best part of two centuries. And to think I wasted my youth thinking that history was boring, nope! I was wilfully ignorant in all honesty but trying to do better now. 😄 Thanks again and stay safe all of you divers. 🤿❤
Crozier's desk... OoO I've heard that the expedition had a camera or two among its inventory. Perhaps one waits to be found somewhere near that tripod. Ironically though, while it might take a thousand words to do a picture justice, a single intact page from Crozier's journal would likely be more revealing than a whole case of photographic plates.
@@tomservo5347 If developed during the voyage, they would have a high chance of surviving. The photographic artifacts from the S.S. Central America (1857) wreck are a good example: edge.alluremedia.com.au/uploads/businessinsider/2014/07/gold-photo.jpg en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Central_America#Search_and_discovery
The world needs a feature-length documentary made with big money and resources, with Netflix or someone, something like James Cameron's Ghosts of the Abyss, or better yet a full series. This is beyond mesmerizing, I wish the video was longer!
It's interesting seeing everything in such good order stashed away. I had always assumed things had deteriorated enough that it would be messy on the ship at the end when I read The Terror. But, I guess I just underestimated the Royal Navy's abilities at keeping sailors 'motivated'.
Its the cold water, it has lower oxygen so things like wood worms that would have eaten away the wood a long time ago, can't live in cold water, so old ship wrecks usually stay in tact better. Look at the Roman ship that was found in really deep water, where again little oxygen exists. They found full amphorae vessels, full of wine, still sealed, I don't know it if would still be drinkable or of had long turned to vinegar.
The wreck the final chapter of 'The Terror' is based on turned out to be the Erebus. By the time she was abandoned between 1852-58 only 4 men were left aboard her and she hadn't actually sailed for some time.
james Young I was diving on a wreck once and my light started to malfunction and when I got it working again I saw Michael Jackson's face right in front of me.
So exciting! These two wrecks are just amazing. It would be wonderful if these ships could be raised. The Tudor Elizabethan ship the "Mary Rose was raised and was much older.
A truly remarkable discovery. Perhaps, in time, we will finally get a clearer picture as to what went wrong and how the mission failed. It is so nice to see it in such a remarkable state of preservation.
Fantastic! Surely Crozier would have sealed up papers in his desk detailing exactly what happened to any would be rescuers that happened upon the ships. A copy of the captain's log would be instrumental in piecing together the mystery. The very thing that helped destroy the expedition might very well be the thing that sheds light on their legacy-COLD. Amazing how well preserved the wood is. Paper that had been bundled up and put inside Crozier's desk would be preserved also. They should look through all the officer's desks for last messages, etc. It wouldn't surprise me if some of the bottles' contents is still good.
Depends. Some Inuit oral histories seem to suggest Terror sank unexpectedly due to ice damage while the crew were in the process of unloading supplies, so any such documents may not have been ready yet. Of course there may be some undiscovered cairn yet in the area... ;)
Simply remarkable and breathtaking! The preservation and great condition of the vessel after almost 175 years. /jawdrop Hoping that longer videos (and detailed images) are released of HMS Terror and HMS Erebus in the future.
I cannot wait for the information and finds!!! I’ve been following the franklin expedition since a kid. Seen ever doc. I remember when they were found and it’s been a long time coming to finally see some footage
Man, that was cool!!! I love this time in history and I love marine archeology. I hope they have an exhibit one day with a few reclaimed artifacts. Thanks for putting this together.
After watching this and having some knowledge of ship architecture (not an expert). In my opinion and very confident to say this that ship is structurally sound. I anylize the wood of the structure mostly in the video. And I would almost say with absolute assurance if the sedimentary layers within and without that ship were removed and the ship was raised and water pumped out I beleive that ship would actually float again. I beleive the reason of her sinking would be to the fact that there were no crewman to man the pumps. Pumps were necessary for wooden vessels because the wood would expand and contract henceforth causing minor flooding. I can also tell the ship after abandoned was left alone and when she sank it was a slow process. When you find objects on the shelves like that literally everywhere it tells you the flooding was slow and even. She sank level as if a giant had gently laid her on the bottom.
Imagine telling the crew that 50 years latter, 6 men in a herring fishing ship finally sailed the northern passage while running from their captains creditors. Now that is a shocker!
@@pmp1337Necessity is the mother of innovation, it seems. 😂😂😂 120 experienced navymen in the most advanced ship of their day vs six guys running away from the threat of an arse-whooping. The six guys make the world record. Life's a tragic comedy.
Fascinating, recently finished reading Michael Palin's book 'Erebus'. To see the actual interior of one of these ships still in such amazing condition is something I never imagined was possible.
Just finished watching the terror. Probably you don’t remember Edward’s scene. Which his last scene on the show. He has facial chain. I have researched many time facial chain thing. I couldn’t find any information about it. Could you enlighten me about facial chain issue. If you find any page about it. Let me know
@@leroyhovatter7051 I know that but he is wearing while he’s freezing not in normal situation or on the ship. I assumed that it’s something different tradition beside luck
@@ecgminor344 That I Really Couldn't Even Answer Theatricality Because The Man Was Near Death At That Point And Given The Circumstances I Would Say He Wasn't Fully In Touch With Reality At That Point.
@@alexblack6421 The movie was stupid especially the part that had the crew dressed up in women's clothes. Kind of makes one think what was the director thinking at that moment. This movie shows no respect for Franklin and a lot of brave men. It is pathetic.
@@7316bobe Several arctic expeditions actually did that. James Ross ran around in a dress during a carnivale when they were stuck in ice on (I think) either John Ross' ill-fated expedition with Fury or on Perry's expedition, carnivals were used to bring up morale. Crozier went in blackface as a footboy IIRC. Drag was seen as a way to satirize high society and socialite women at the time (not the rather strange and unsettling way it is used now).
@@thenumbah1birdman I do not believe you. I have researched the Franklin Expedition and other expedition's into the Arctic and I have never read in any of the many books that I have studied any thing about a "carnivale" where men dress up as women. James Ross is positively the very LAST person that would dress in a women's dress and parade around in front of the other officers and the lower ranks of the ships company. You mister THE NOTORIUS K.E.K need 100 of the best with a cat O nine tails followed by a keel hauling under the ship in the Arctic Ocean. Yes that is the medicine for you to cool a feverish brain.
Hey Parks Canada! That large box and tripod may be a camera! It is entirely possible that film exists within that case. I've developed extremely old recovered films and can say that as long as it hasnt seen light, and the emulsion is intact, the film sheets may be retrievable.
I gotta tell ya that is amazing, the things that ship and its sister ship could tell us is awesome, good luck to parks Canada in anything they do with these treasures.
Amazing! thanks for making this dive happen, you were so lucky with the still conditions and good visibility. Great care must have been taken to kick up those mountains of silt. The dissolving guns were fascinating. Thank you.
What a great video! I watched absolutely amazed at this portal into history. You have left me wanting more, thank you for this upload and the respectful way it was presented. This is a jewel of Facebook. I have found a few, and now another.
With the mountains of absolute garbage on TH-cam...this was refreshingly fascinating and left me wanting more...I have just recently finished watching AMCs The Terror which added to my interest...Thank you for time well spent.
Wandered here after today's news of The Endurance ship being found and a year after watching AMC's The Terror. This is fascinating to see, and truly eerie to think of what the final days must have been like heading out onto the ice. Side note, while not based a true story, if you liked AMC's The Terror, have a look at 'The North Water' miniseries.
Great Wreck on very good shape for so long underwater. Such a beautifull Country Canada, you guys are very lucky. Been there twice, I could live there for sure. Cheers
Should be raised and preserved as was done with the Mary Rose and the Wasa, please share more videos of the wreck sites Parks Canada. Hoping the complete story of what happened to Franklin and his crew is gradually discovered.
Dave, we can only hope this may happen. I have been on the Wasa but not the Mary Rose. To the crews and decendents of both ships, a new chapter is opened and the old on the location closed.
Please release the full length ROV footage of Terror, no edits, the archaeological community deserves to see every inch. Thank you
When they find Captain Croziers journal in one of those drawers and it reads "Today 11th June 1847 our Sir John had his leg ripped off and he was then thrown down a hole by a massive white bear like creature. Today was not a good day"
When? They will find that when they find the tomb of Genghis Khan. In fact they'll probably find them at the exact same time.
@@xotl2780 you don’t get the joke.
@@Rokaize Joke with a very small j
🤣🤣🤣
@@xotl2780 he's referring to the novel and TV miniseries, The Terror. Which postulates a sticky end for the sailors. If you haven't read it or seen it it is worth it.
A long-time Franklin Freak, I watched this open-mouthed. Many thanks to Parks Canada for their sterling endeavours.
Have you read Michael Palin's book?
I like Franklin wood stoves, too, what’s your favourite firewood?
hell yeah!
The tripod and large case at 5:15 may be the Terror's daguerreotype camera. As such, if they can locate and retrieve the copper plates for the camera there may be photos that the crew took. Very interesting!
Your right! I bet that is the camera
Oh my god they really need to go down there and retrieve them tines ticking away!
I was thinking the same thing!!
Probably nothing on them, the metals in the plates would have leeched out in small quanities and destroyed the photos. But your probably right about it being the camera good eye
@@blurryface2555
Been down there for closing on 200 years 'times ticking away' lol
This is far more preserved than the titanic. Absolutely incredible
Wood takes much longer to decompose in salt water than iron : P
Ben Lzicar There. Both. In. Salt. water.
@@flyingeagle1237 They sure are XD
willthey raise em
@@flyingeagle1237 Read. Their. Post. again.
The sight of Crozier's desk has raised hopes (which I share!) that the ship's log may somehow have survived in the ice waters. However, when the crew finally abandoned the Terror to attempt an overland escape they are likely to have taken the ships logs with them as the definitive record of their voyage. Still, there's always hope!
Apparently, in those times they were in the habit of making several duplicates of expedition logs for this very reason. One of the holy grails of the Franklin case has always been at least one copy of the ships' logs hidden somewhere ashore in King William Island which researchers are convinced MUST be there somewhere - or at least, have been. Therefore, it would be logical that a copy - or rather, the original which would be getting no more entries anyway - of the log would have been left aboard both ships as well. It has to be remembered that they could not know the future fate of the ships, it's not like they were abandoned because there was anything wrong with them. It would have probably been against both regulation and custom to completely remove the logs from a ship in that situation.
They would have taken them off the ship and hid them. They are most likely on William island
Its not unlikely they left a copy on Terror. She was boarded up and left in a sheltered Cove in the Ice and the truth is they may have considered a chance that she would have been recovered at some point.
I still think Crozier would have left a message in his desk had any rescuers found the ships so they'd have an idea of what direction he took the survivors and his goal. If Peglar's journal was found with writing still legible out in the open land, imagine the near perfect state the cold water will have on anything in Crozier's work desk. I bet the tripod is the expedition's camera-copper plate images were recovered from other shipwrecks so it'll be fascinating if they can recover actual photos.
I tried watching a bit of that series. What kind of idiot introduces a fictional monster into a real life event? As if there was not enough drama.
"Without the support, advice and knowledge of the Inuit."
Who for decades had been patiently saying thorough their lore "THEY'RE OVER HERE."
aye .. only lost for 170 years because the arrogant white man wouldnt talk to the natives !! .. priceless
@@andyzx9682 I saw a nice interview with an Inuit Franklin researcher regarding that. He acknowledged, along with a European colleague, that the Inuit oral traditions are extremely hard to understand because of their language's paucity of words describing when things happened.
It's a story as old as time. How many times have modern archaeologists bragged about some amazing new discovery and its revealed shortly after the locals had been telling them about it for hundreds of years. They always say they just thought it was folklore or a legend they were describing
@@onzie9 can you point me to this interview??
@@user-lk2qf4rt3m Where did you read that they despoiled graves and fed their dogs with the bodies? As I understand it, few of the bodies were given graves, but rather the men simply died where they lay. I've never heard of the dogs being fed on the dead, either.
Thrilling first look into the Terror, can't wait to see the documents in that desk!
Howard Carter on first peering into Tut's tomb: ""Can you see anything?", it was all I could do to get out the words "Yes, wonderful things".
A beautiful time capsule
You will never see the “documents” in that desk because anyone with a brain highly doubts the survivors left such important documents behind after MONTHS. No clue where you even got that idea from.
@@OeletedThe Dead Sea Scrolls are 2,000 years old and still legible. It’s unlikely, but certainly plausible some documents have survived.
Amazing to think that while the Titanic sank, while we had WW1, WW2, first man on the moon, the internet... this ship was under water in perfect condition still existing
Thanks for watching!
That is amazing
The white-blue dinner plates are the same with the show :O OMG goosebumps
The blue and white pottery (most famously from China) had been widely imitated and produced in Europe for over a century by that time, so frankly it'd be more surprising if there weren't any on that ship...
@@eggsybenedict7014 The ubiquitous Willow Pattern..
The show was really fastidious on the historical accuracy despite the fantastical elements. They built the ship set based exactly on the floor plan of the real terror! It's quite beautiful how great a job the showrunners did, and it makes the show feel so alive.
God, I've never wanted to see the results of a archeological find so badly. We need to find Captain Crozier's logbook
Update- they found his journal and it's final entry was quite telling. It's said " Here we sit, at great loss. Trying to shit out penguin sauce. When it comes we hope, we pray. It will not blow our asses away".
@commycasty That would be his Antarctic logbook. 😂😂😂
Wow ! such clear footage of this most famous explorers ship, I take my hat off to you brave scuba divers for bringing this unique film to us mere mortals.
It is only 30 feet under the water. Anyone could swim around it using a snorkel and goggles. I must admit that it would be a bit of a cold swim.
@@7316bobe depth of 69-79 feet actually ( 21-24 meters ). In arctic freezing waters... Need a lot of scuba training to do what they are doing, and specific training for wreck diving.
I think there would be a good argument to raise HMS Terror and her sister ship, HMS Erebus as both vessels are of significant historical value, seemingly well preserved and neither are classed as war graves as they were abandoned by their crews. Depending on the condition of the ships and the motivation to do so, I don't see why they couldn't do it because as someone else here wrote, they wont be around forever. Because in 1961 the Vasa - a 17th century Swedish Naval vessel that had sank in Stockholm harbor in 1628 was raised - mostly intact, salvaged, preserved and is now a museum piece in Sweden. The Vasa was 226 foot long, displaced over 1200 tons and despite being wholly of a wood construction, not sitting in year round freezing water and having sat on the sea floor for nearly 350 years, was sturdy enough to raise. By comparison, HMS Terror is less than HALF that size at 102 feet long, displaced 325 tons AND had her construction augmented by steel frame reinforcement throughout the hull supposedly to help her survive the ice on the expedition... never mind the fact the wreck is half the age of the VASA and the preserving qualities of year round freezing cold arctic water. The wreck as is could survive for a couple hundred more years but even though she's in a protected area, it's only a matter of time before illegal salvage strips her of anything of historical value... Get it done, Canada.
I agree. Rescue and restore the Ships otherwise they'll rot underwater.
Illegal salvage? 😅😅😅 Do you think Terror Bay is akin to English Bay in downtown Vancouver? Remote, desolate, unpopulated, hard to reach most of the year, devoid of shipping traffic - all these things that kept the ships from being found for over a century will continue to keep them out of reach.
@@misterslats Who said anything about Illegal Salvage, laughing boy? I'm an attorney with experience in maritime law and deep sea salvage operations... I'm also a qualified level 9. Master scuba diving trainer and spent time in Antarctic waters years ago when I served in the military before my legal career. And whether you accept it or not, where there is a will, there is a way and if sufficiently motivated, recovering these two small ships from their shallow graves would not be too problematic. There just has to be the motivation to do it and a gentleman's agreement between the UK & Canadian governments. But I guess when you have a Prime Minister too preoccupied with safe spaces, woke words, removing people's civil liberties, taking away their guns, using wartime laws to quash peaceful protests etc etc.. then I guess preserving a small part of 100 year old colonial history falls pretty low on the list of priorities.
@@Maulinator69 The dude deleted his post after I left my comment. My post was in response to him not you.
@@misterslats In that case I stand corrected and graciously offer my apology.
Stunning imagery. Beautiful and,at the same time,both haunting and sad.Brave men who ventured into an unknown wilderness,never to return. It kind of gets to you,you know?
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I wonder if the wreck still contains human remains
@@jaffabaffa Don't think so. The ships were abandoned in a frozen bay, and the men died trying to walk back to civilization.
@@vulpesinculta3238 Ah, didn't know. Thank you for the information
@@jaffabaffa From Wikipedia:
Franklin expedition
"In 1845,Francis Crozier joined Rear-Admiral Sir John Franklin as captain of the Terror on the Franklin expedition to traverse the last unnavigated section of the Northwest Passage. After Franklin's death in June 1847, he took command of the expedition, and his fate and those of the other expedition members remained a mystery until 1859, when a note written by Crozier and James Fitzjames, captain of the Erebus, was discovered on King William Island during an expedition led by Sir Francis McClintock. Dated 25 April 1848, the note indicated that the ships-stuck in ice-had been abandoned. Nine officers, including John Franklin, and 15 crewmen had died. Also stated was their intention, on 26 April, to set out for Back's Great Fish River on the Canadian mainland.[6]
Unverified Inuit reports collected between 1852 and 1858 indicate that Crozier and one other expedition member were seen in the Baker Lake area, about 400 kilometres (250 mi) to the south, where, in 1948, Farley Mowat found "a very ancient cairn, not of normal Eskimo construction," inside which were shreds of a hardwood box with dovetail joints.[7] McClintock and later searchers found relics, graves, and human remains of the Franklin crew on Beechey Island, King William Island, and the northern coast of the Canadian mainland, but no survivors."
Basically, they abandoned the Erebus and Terror in an attempt to walk out of the Arctic.So, no, there are no human remains aboard either ship.
Get a copy of Micheal Palin's book Erebus. You will be spellbound.
Croziers documents, one of the Holy Grails of the Franklin Expedition. Bet that's an upcoming project.
Imagine if the logbook is still intact!
Holy fuck, so much is intact! This might just answer so many questions about what their plans were and how good old Franklin died..
I love your series on the Franklin expedition. Please review every episode.
If the documents show that the ship was under attack from the Inuit then we will never be let find out about it. They are Parks Canada's new best friends.
They found the documents. They just say, "All work and no play makes John a dull boy." over and over.
Never in my life did I think either ship would be found. Simply incredible to think we could someday know more about what happened if they're able to find documents.
I do wonder that too but I've always thought that the Inuit might have taken any documents or ship logs left on board after they were abandoned. I hope not though....
@@EireForTheIrishdoubtful they would’ve taken any documents to read considering they didn’t even speak or read English.
@@EireForTheIrishProbably not, considering the inuit couldn't read the documents. There was a metal box that the inuit did find on land, left by the expedition, which contained documents, but these ended up simply being destroyed because they did not understand the significance of the Englishmens' papers and books. So I'm not convinced that the inuit who boarded the terror shortly after it was abandoned would've raided the books. Rather they were known to have taken tools, silverware and metal pieces.
It has been suggested that documents that have lain in drawers may, once recovered, treated and processed, be fully legible for historians, archivists and researchers to read!
The wrecks are a literal treasure trove of original documents, artefacts and equipment of immense historical significance and I believe that they should be salvaged in their entirety, raised intact from the seabed and preserved for future generations.
The expertise and technology exists to raise both wrecks and this should be achieved whilst the wrecks themselves are in a recoverable condition.
But all the crew got off and started a trek toward the South - I don't imagine any important records would have been left behind, especially by Crozier.
And whisky.
Why haven't they explored that desk yet?
@@carloscruz2918it's very costly and dangerous
@@mmtiganyes. Whiskey that has been under water for nearly 200 years. I’m sure you guys would love to drink that.
I HAVE to know what Crozier put in his logbook before I die
@Teutonic knight "ITS COLD"
@@Pat4ever. LOL👍
He wrote, "Bugger."
@Johnny Cash Well then I'll get to ask him myself
@@evo5dave He hoped he would keep wicket for the Croydon Gentlemen, and marry Doris.
Stunning. What a treasure. A ship of that period, its interior, and everyday contents still existing.
The degree of preservation is just astonishing. Really blown away by this.
Dear Canada, thanks for looking after our ship. Regards, Britain
Lol! Enjoy your gifted ships now! 😂
Look at me, I am the captain now
-Some Canadian, probably a newfie
Thank you to the Inuit who long knew and shared. Thanks to Parks Canada and for sharing.
And a big no thank tonthe euros who never listened to the naitives, the ships where never lost. It just took 200 years to liste
Just finishing Michael Palin's "Erebus", so excellent timing.
Mark Langley So did I, then watched the Terror tv series. Gave me much more respect for Crozier thanks to the book
The music behind the narrator is perfectly mixed! Soft and serene, yet chilling.
Absolutely fascinating! Thanks so much for providing subtitles!
I read Dan Simmons' novel a few months ago an also saw the seried "The Terror". It's unbelievable how well preserved the ship wracks are. Thank you for your work and research. But moreover, I was shocked, when I realized, that not even two centuries had passed since then, and all the glaciers an the packing ice, who doomed Franklin and his expedition, are already gone. I knew that the Northwest Passage was free nowadays, but I wasn't expecting that the area is completely free of ice during summertime.
roman Mayer yeah that's what's terrifying to me; the ice that forced these poor souls to leave the ships has long melted away
Actually, it is said that it was free during summers back then as well. They just came there in the few years it was colder and didn't melt in between.
Dude, the expedition got trapped in Ice, since those 2 winters were among the coldest, it was not normal back then that the Ice didnt melt in summer, thats what doomed them
Unbelievable how well the inside is preserved
It is interesting that the men that were supposed to be starving to death left firearms hanging on the wall in the cabin. I was under the impression that there was Caribou, Polar Bears, Seals, Birds, and a number of other animals that could have been hunted for food.
@@7316bobe One possibility is lead poisoning. The tin cans were soldered shut using lead, which the sailors consumed on a daily basis.
@@7316bobe Also after such a long journey, numerous deaths and possibly a lot of sick sailors it is very much possible that they just weren't thinking straight.
@@tolga1cool In the book Frozen in Time where they dug up the 3 Franklin Expedition members on Beechey Island the hair samples from the bodies showed from the hair's rate of growth that the lead in the bodies of those 3 men was only slightly elevated. The samples taken from the bones of other crewmen taken off King William Island to check for lead found the lead levels elevated to higher than normal but only marginally higher than crewmen that served aboard other ships in the British navy and they had not gone mad. It must be remembered that in those days all the water piping aboard the ships was made of lead. On those old ships there was literally tons of lead that was used every where something might rust, and even the wash basins in the kitchens were made of lead. I think that something else happened to cause this expedition to fail and exactly what that was is still not known.
@@tolga1cool Do not forget that another ship and crew was stuck in the ice for 4 years and still made it home to England again. They were eventually picked up by a whale ship with all the crew still alive. 4 years is 1 year longer than the men of the Franklin Expedition, that deserted there ships after only 3 years. It is not known why the Franklin Expedition crews deserted there ships to go on a death march because when they left England the food supply was big enough to last everybody for over 4 years and could be rationed out to 5 years in an emergency.
I saw a documentary on the Franklin Expedition as a child and it really stuck with me.
I'm not Canadian but I still think it's fascinating. Those ships were missing for so long!
The discovery was so exciting! Every summer I check to see what they've found.
Sunken ships are always so eerie, almost as if you can still see what their window in time looks like.. you can almost imagine hearing a fiddle being played whilst accompanied by raucous shouting and merriment as you pass through the now long silent corridors.. ghostly is the word for it
Why aren't you just the little novelist?
That was quite a visual picture you just painted for me!
And I agree~
Whenever I see footage from exceptionally well preserved sunken ships like the HMS Terror. I always kinda expect to see someone just casually walk around from the next corner. As if nothing had ever happened.
@@sanddabz5635 I’m glad you agree, I guess I described it a little better than intended
@@juletid99 same here I’m surprised it wasn’t haunted
This is amazing. I've been fascinated with these ships since I read several books on the Franklin expedition over a decade ago. Most of these mysteries go unsolved.
Thanks for watching! You can find updates about the project here: parks.canada.ca/lhn-nhs/nu/epaveswrecks/info/communiques-franklin-releases.
I'm terrified of deep water so I'd be a crap sailor 😄 Still fascinating to observe such incredible underwater scenes from the safety and comfort of my sofa. Just learned about this voyage a couple of days ago and now watching every documentary there is on it, absolutely enthralled with this expedition. Thank you so much for giving us a good look down there, it's totally incredible to see the bottles, plates, guns etc sitting there abandoned for the best part of two centuries. And to think I wasted my youth thinking that history was boring, nope! I was wilfully ignorant in all honesty but trying to do better now. 😄 Thanks again and stay safe all of you divers. 🤿❤
Crozier's desk... OoO
I've heard that the expedition had a camera or two among its inventory. Perhaps one waits to be found somewhere near that tripod. Ironically though, while it might take a thousand words to do a picture justice, a single intact page from Crozier's journal would likely be more revealing than a whole case of photographic plates.
Oh wow! Could you imagine lost images of the expedition? I don't see how plates could survive seawater though.
@@tomservo5347 If developed during the voyage, they would have a high chance of surviving. The photographic artifacts from the S.S. Central America (1857) wreck are a good example:
edge.alluremedia.com.au/uploads/businessinsider/2014/07/gold-photo.jpg
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Central_America#Search_and_discovery
5:16 This is probably the camera here
@@sirboomsalot4902 oh gods, please let there be usable film inside!
The world needs a feature-length documentary made with big money and resources, with Netflix or someone, something like James Cameron's Ghosts of the Abyss, or better yet a full series. This is beyond mesmerizing, I wish the video was longer!
Parks Canada thank you for bringing us this amazing historical footage. You guys are doing a great service out there. Be safe god bless.
I don't want to "like" this vid, I want to "love" it!!!
This is crazy (in a awestruck tone) i loved the terror on amc now seeing this im awestruck
It's interesting seeing everything in such good order stashed away. I had always assumed things had deteriorated enough that it would be messy on the ship at the end when I read The Terror. But, I guess I just underestimated the Royal Navy's abilities at keeping sailors 'motivated'.
Its the cold water, it has lower oxygen so things like wood worms that would have eaten away the wood a long time ago, can't live in cold water, so old ship wrecks usually stay in tact better. Look at the Roman ship that was found in really deep water, where again little oxygen exists. They found full amphorae vessels, full of wine, still sealed, I don't know it if would still be drinkable or of had long turned to vinegar.
james Young
He’s talking about the array of furniture and stuff around the ship, not it’s condition.
The wreck the final chapter of 'The Terror' is based on turned out to be the Erebus. By the time she was abandoned between 1852-58 only 4 men were left aboard her and she hadn't actually sailed for some time.
Amazing! I got chills watching this.
Knowing how many men died, it is creepy. I've dove on shipwrecks, and its creepy.
james Young I was diving on a wreck once and my light started to malfunction and when I got it working again I saw Michael Jackson's face right in front of me.
Stunning footage they filmed there
Wonderful, Thanks Parks Canada for the video!
So exciting! These two wrecks are just amazing. It would be wonderful if these ships could be raised. The Tudor Elizabethan ship the "Mary Rose was raised and was much older.
Thanks for watching!
Absolutely STUNNING FOOTAGE. Truly amazing the condition of everything.
SINCERE THANKS FOR THE UPLOAD PARKS CANADA !!!!!
A truly remarkable discovery. Perhaps, in time, we will finally get a clearer picture as to what went wrong and how the mission failed. It is so nice to see it in such a remarkable state of preservation.
The ships were frozen in, the surviving crew were frozen out. All information lost.Mission a catastrophic failure.
Even better than I anticipated. I have been anxiously waiting to see this. Thank You
Wow, the preservation is amazing.
Fantastic! Surely Crozier would have sealed up papers in his desk detailing exactly what happened to any would be rescuers that happened upon the ships. A copy of the captain's log would be instrumental in piecing together the mystery. The very thing that helped destroy the expedition might very well be the thing that sheds light on their legacy-COLD. Amazing how well preserved the wood is. Paper that had been bundled up and put inside Crozier's desk would be preserved also. They should look through all the officer's desks for last messages, etc. It wouldn't surprise me if some of the bottles' contents is still good.
Depends. Some Inuit oral histories seem to suggest Terror sank unexpectedly due to ice damage while the crew were in the process of unloading supplies, so any such documents may not have been ready yet.
Of course there may be some undiscovered cairn yet in the area... ;)
This is incredible! Love seeing history preserved like this.
Simply remarkable and breathtaking! The preservation and great condition of the vessel after almost 175 years. /jawdrop
Hoping that longer videos (and detailed images) are released of HMS Terror and HMS Erebus in the future.
I cannot wait for the information and finds!!! I’ve been following the franklin expedition since a kid. Seen ever doc. I remember when they were found and it’s been a long time coming to finally see some footage
Man, that was cool!!! I love this time in history and I love marine archeology. I hope they have an exhibit one day with a few reclaimed artifacts. Thanks for putting this together.
How does this video not have a billion views already?!
I'm guessing that the vast majority of people have never heard of the Brit's effort to find the Northwest Passage, nor the lives lost in their search.
cause rap music is more important...
Thanks to all concerned for sharing this!
It would be great if one or both ships could be raised and their true stories told.
Great video...such clarity. Nicely done Parks Canada
Such brave men in those days,thank you for this video.
After watching this and having some knowledge of ship architecture (not an expert). In my opinion and very confident to say this that ship is structurally sound. I anylize the wood of the structure mostly in the video. And I would almost say with absolute assurance if the sedimentary layers within and without that ship were removed and the ship was raised and water pumped out I beleive that ship would actually float again. I beleive the reason of her sinking would be to the fact that there were no crewman to man the pumps. Pumps were necessary for wooden vessels because the wood would expand and contract henceforth causing minor flooding. I can also tell the ship after abandoned was left alone and when she sank it was a slow process. When you find objects on the shelves like that literally everywhere it tells you the flooding was slow and even. She sank level as if a giant had gently laid her on the bottom.
Amazing!
I beleive you😂
Fascinating. So many secrets waiting to be unlocked...
I’m in awe every time i watch this. Truly an incredible discovery. They should look into trying to raise these ships!
If England can raise the Mary Rose ( Henry VIII's flagship that sank in 1545 ) then anything is possible. Well, all except the Titanic of course
Absolutely amazing. A real look into the past. Many thanks. I will be following the excavation closely..
imagine if the crew of the ships could see what can be done nowadays
"You're telling me we can seal cans without lead?!?!"
Imagine telling the crew that 50 years latter, 6 men in a herring fishing ship finally sailed the northern passage while running from their captains creditors. Now that is a shocker!
its beyond alien to imagine.
@@pmp1337Necessity is the mother of innovation, it seems. 😂😂😂 120 experienced navymen in the most advanced ship of their day vs six guys running away from the threat of an arse-whooping. The six guys make the world record. Life's a tragic comedy.
Fascinating, recently finished reading Michael Palin's book 'Erebus'. To see the actual interior of one of these ships still in such amazing condition is something I never imagined was possible.
Just finished watching the terror. Probably you don’t remember Edward’s scene. Which his last scene on the show. He has facial chain. I have researched many time facial chain thing. I couldn’t find any information about it. Could you enlighten me about facial chain issue. If you find any page about it. Let me know
@@ecgminor344 Sailors Tradition. Gold Is Supposed To Bring The Wearer Good Fortune At Sea.
@@leroyhovatter7051 I know that but he is wearing while he’s freezing not in normal situation or on the ship. I assumed that it’s something different tradition beside luck
@@ecgminor344 That I Really Couldn't Even Answer Theatricality Because The Man Was Near Death At That Point And Given The Circumstances I Would Say He Wasn't Fully In Touch With Reality At That Point.
@@leroyhovatter7051 I see that. Thanks for your efforts
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lol that ruined the movie
@@alexblack6421 The movie was stupid especially the part that had the crew dressed up in women's clothes. Kind of makes one think what was the director thinking at that moment. This movie shows no respect for Franklin and a lot of brave men. It is pathetic.
@@7316bobe Several arctic expeditions actually did that. James Ross ran around in a dress during a carnivale when they were stuck in ice on (I think) either John Ross' ill-fated expedition with Fury or on Perry's expedition, carnivals were used to bring up morale. Crozier went in blackface as a footboy IIRC. Drag was seen as a way to satirize high society and socialite women at the time (not the rather strange and unsettling way it is used now).
@@thenumbah1birdman I do not believe you. I have researched the Franklin Expedition and other expedition's into the Arctic and I have never read in any of the many books that I have studied any thing about a "carnivale" where men dress up as women. James Ross is positively the very LAST person that would dress in a women's dress and parade around in front of the other officers and the lower ranks of the ships company. You mister THE NOTORIUS K.E.K need 100 of the best with a cat O nine tails followed by a keel hauling under the ship in the Arctic Ocean. Yes that is the medicine for you to cool a feverish brain.
Absolutely beautiful. One of the most interesting ship stories.
Hey Parks Canada! That large box and tripod may be a camera! It is entirely possible that film exists within that case. I've developed extremely old recovered films and can say that as long as it hasnt seen light, and the emulsion is intact, the film sheets may be retrievable.
@ParksCanada ❗❗❗
I gotta tell ya that is amazing, the things that ship and its sister ship could tell us is awesome, good luck to parks Canada in anything they do with these treasures.
This is a wonderful video. I have been following the history of the expedition. Thank you for sharing.
they finally found it..... and it's beautifully preserved.
Phenomenal pictures! Thank u so much for this!
Amazing! thanks for making this dive happen, you were so lucky with the still conditions and good visibility. Great care must have been taken to kick up those mountains of silt. The dissolving guns were fascinating. Thank you.
Wow amazing work Angèle’s dad is so awesome
Yes Adam that's obviously true
who?
What a great video! I watched absolutely amazed at this portal into history. You have left me wanting more, thank you for this upload and the respectful way it was presented. This is a jewel of Facebook. I have found a few, and now another.
wonderful research - I envy the team involved on this
I am sad to say that there may be a cover up of the truth and if there is we will never know.
This is incredible... thank you so much for posting this.
Thanks for watching!
Tuunbaq.
Seriously though, this is amazing. I'd love to know what's in Croziers desk. Fingers crossed a journal is around somewhere in readable shape.
This is the video I’ve been looking for
Just WOW! Gives me chills 👏🏼👏🏼
Can't wait to learn more about this Historic site.
It’s literally history frozen in time
Wow finished The Error series earlier today! amazing timing!
Well Done Parks Canada.
An incredible find. Perhaps now we can begin to shed light on what happened to the expedition in its final days.
Can't wait! Gotta subscribe to see future 'episodes'...! Awesome.
Amazing. Such a story 170 years old.
Deep Trekker ROV....great work with the ROV unit in close quarters!!
With the mountains of absolute garbage on TH-cam...this was refreshingly fascinating and left me wanting more...I have just recently finished watching AMCs The Terror which added to my interest...Thank you for time well spent.
Beautiful, so beautiful!
Wandered here after today's news of The Endurance ship being found and a year after watching AMC's The Terror.
This is fascinating to see, and truly eerie to think of what the final days must have been like heading out onto the ice.
Side note, while not based a true story, if you liked AMC's The Terror, have a look at 'The North Water' miniseries.
Absolutely amazing.
Great Wreck on very good shape for so long underwater. Such a beautifull Country Canada, you guys are very lucky. Been there twice, I could live there for sure. Cheers
This is so amazing!!! I can’t wait for more!
Well done Canuks!
Seems like it could be raised intact, like The Vasa in Sweden, then build a museum around it.
Would like to see/find the update on this article.
Its pretty much preserved under ice all these years so its possible 🤯
Having visited The Vasa, I agree. That also raises the possibility of extracting ALL of the artifacts inside opposed to just the ones easy to access.
My question is where would you put it?
It would need special treatment or the wood would disintegrate when exposed to air.
Amazing....wonder how it went down so gently with bottles still on the shelves.
Amazing footage cant wait for more details.
Amazingly well preserved. Hope the raise it and build a museum around it in Nunavut.
It's like this ship just slowly sank and settled on the seafloor with zero trauma. Bizarre.
Didn’t even think of that, it is really weird that so many bottles stayed upright on shelves and display guns still on their racks…
What a fantastic video, so very interesting to watch.
Thank you.👍
Glad you enjoyed it :)
It is now mid 2022. Just when are we going to get some discovery's about papers still in drawers in officer's cabins, among other details?
I just read an article that said the Terror site wasnt visited this year, only Erebus 😔
So greatful for videos like this. Thank you. 💕
Wow, what a treasure. thanks for this amazing video
Should be raised and preserved as was done with the Mary Rose and the Wasa, please share more videos of the wreck sites Parks Canada. Hoping the complete story of what happened to Franklin and his crew is gradually discovered.
Dave, we can only hope this may happen. I have been on the Wasa but not the Mary Rose. To the crews and decendents of both ships, a new chapter is opened and the old on the location closed.