Lori being Lori….what a bunch of crap. Refusing to appear and face justice won’t work in the long run. I don’t understand why they can’t haul her out of her cell and make her appear.
How can she say she is not competent to stand trial.....she just did an interview woth Colby and obviously that conversation speaks volumes and she knows Exactly what she is doing
@mitchw86 Obviously it is you that is dumb. I have been an attorney for 40 years, and my husband was LE whike in law school. Their oath dies not say to protect citizens from harm. It is NOT the job of the police to protect citizens from harm. Google the question...are police obligated to protect citizens from harm. They are NOT. They are not even obligated to respond when you call 811. Maybe, you should actually know what you are talking about before trying to educate an attorney.
She is competent! and highly manipulative and entitled and the court is her playground because you are letting her judge. Have you not learned anything? Even people from around the world know her games by now.
She's SO competent it's not funny anymore!! Lori Vallow Dumbell knew EXACTLY what she was doing then and knows EXACTLY what she's doing now!!! Such a manipulative, narcissistic, piece of crap!!!
@@exodiatheforbiddenone186 I think I'd rather face a firing squad on my feet than to be strapped on a gurney helplessly subjected to who-knows-how-much agony while I'm chemically immobilized.
Another manipulation by the devil herself! What a coward!!! She is a convicted murderer… she lost her rights! Charles, who begged police for help and warned them repeatedly, BUT WAS IGNORED , deserves better than this!!! 😡
Why the heck does Lori get THREE defense attorneys? Is she paying for them? And she wants to represent herself? She is in custody so how can she "refuse" to attend her trial?
This is not the trial. This is a hearing to prepare for the trial. Everything must be done by the rule of law in Arizona so that the trial cannot be contested on those grounds.
How on earth is anyone to believe Lori can represent herself when she won't even appear in court? How many times will the court tolerate everyone being present except the defense?
In other cases I’ve watched the system becomes difficult to those who choose to represent themselves. They won’t send the letter of the date until it’s passed etc. think about it. They know where she is, they are also her transposition. Ask the right questions. Our system has serious issues. This has no regard to her alleged heinous crime. In general, this is what happens when you refuse their representative. However, it’s almost the best thing to do especially in these times we are in.
I'm sorry she is in prison, how can she not show? It isn't like they can't find her. If she refuses to get up and go then the answer should be NO! You act like a child you get treated like a child.
@@darlaf2136😅 That’s an apt observation! Never hear about Charles visiting her like the others have? Perhaps it could be because Charles was not a fan of her extreme “fringe” LDS-spin off beliefs?
During a trial in Arizona, a defense attorney may ask for a Rule 11 evaluation of his or her client. Under Rule 11, the defendant has the right to a full mental examination and hearing when reasonable grounds exist for it. A Rule 11 hearing may be held when a defendant is suspected of being mentally incompetent
She trying to delay because she hasn’t waived her right to a speedy trial and then she will say the trials need to be dropped because her right to a speedy trial was violated. That’s part of the reason and the fact that all discovery wasn’t given to defense In her trial that she got the death penalty removed. Why can’t they order her to get the mental evaluation and if she doesn’t she is in contempt of court and fined and forced to appear before the judge.
This Arizona trial is just a waste of tax payer money. She's already going to die in prison, let her. Finding her guilty again does not bring "justice", there is no "justice" since Charles and Brandon aren't coming back. Sentencing her for a couple more life sentences won't change a damn thing. It's just a money and publicity grab by the prosecution, we all already know she's guilty, don't waste a juries time.
Your right and it looks like Lori is gonna milk this and play Circus Carousel with Lori holding the pretend reigns of the Pink Horsey ! Round n Round she goes. Judge don't give her any more quarters for the Carousel, let's shut it down right now. She's not sick or crazy.. The system is crazy to fall for her game !
Charles was the one who died. Brandon had an attempt made in his life but Alex missed. Thankfully he is still alive. Charles SHOULD be alive, but the cops fell for her flirting and lies. She should not be allowed to refuse attending her hearings.
And I think she wants free reign to preach as a high priestess from hell. She intends to blow people's minds with her brilliance. They should not allow her to represent herself, period.
Defense advised Lori not to cooperate with a competency hearing so Lori refused to meet with the mental health evaluators and has successfully delayed her trial. 🙄 what is there to gain from more delay other than attention? Insufferable creature.
Lori Vallow is playing the same game as the last trial. All of a sudden, there was a miracle . Lori Vallow was competant to stand trial. That was after Mark Means was relieved from being her attorney by the judge. Sorry, Lori Vallow is trying to stall her trial.
I guess these new defense attorneys didn’t do enough homework to know that Lori’s case is indeed unique! Like everyone’s saying, she plays games and wants to be the center of attention!
Wheel that monster in on a Hannibal lectur dolly why do they let these criminals dictate what happens in court knowing that is the only thing they have power over when incarcerated she wants to represent herself but won’t turn up ok she’s bat 💩
I'm so sick and tired of these games the convicted play! They have zero rights in my book yet continuously waste taxpayer $, tie up courts & lawyers time..appeal after appeal hoping the victims will be forgotten.
This is all big game for Lori. She could care less. She's not going anywhere and she knows it. If this Judge was smart he would be demanding from her. Assessment or not. No more delays. Lori is beyond manipulative lets not forget that.
@ellietaylor7618 I mean it's gotta move along somehow right? Those lawyers even looked confused on why she wasn't there. This is gonna be one interesting trial.
@@ellietaylor7618she first has to be found competent to represent herself. Until then she has a defense team. Her defense team ordered the evaluation but Lori is stalling. Ugggg!
She shouldn’t have the option to refuse..she is a criminal
@@MistyMartin-sm5ty they have more right than the victims
@@Piat65I’m so sick of the rights of the defendants. Especially one that has already been convicted of murders.
@ Freaking ridiculous.Morons running the judicial system
This court is much too tolerant to Lori's manipulation. Charles and Brandon deserve better.
hell lori is as bad as charles manson;;how many people has lori had killed or killed herself??
Yeah. Well, look at their police department. They’re all failures
@@wilsewoodcockDefinitely 3. Probably 5
She is playing games. Surprise, surprise!
Attention on lori!
@@natnat81jones76As usual. It makes me sick.
She’s incompetent and can’t represent herself.
She isn’t well. Psychotics do not play games they are delusional and not in touch with reality.
@@emma_t_scorrect
Lori being Lori….what a bunch of crap. Refusing to appear and face justice won’t work in the long run. I don’t understand why they can’t haul her out of her cell and make her appear.
well she had a head ache that dayllfrom killing her 2 children??
Justice for Charles and Brandon!!
🙏🏻🙏🏻😥😥🙏🏻🙏🏻
She REFUSED? Shes allowed to do that?
How can she say she is not competent to stand trial.....she just did an interview woth Colby and obviously that conversation speaks volumes and she knows Exactly what she is doing
HOLD HER IN CONTEMPT JUDGE!
Waiting for the day Charles gets his own justice and for those cops who failed him, I hope they shame-testify in court.
Me too! 100%
It is NOT the job of the police to protect citizens from harm.
@@Ausgar-yc1ylAre you dumb? Their oath is literally to serve and protect…
@mitchw86 Obviously it is you that is dumb. I have been an attorney for 40 years, and my husband was LE whike in law school. Their oath dies not say to protect citizens from harm. It is NOT the job of the police to protect citizens from harm. Google the question...are police obligated to protect citizens from harm. They are NOT. They are not even obligated to respond when you call 811. Maybe, you should actually know what you are talking about before trying to educate an attorney.
@mitchw86 Protect and serve has NEVER meant citizens from harm. You have NO idea what the job of the police is. Cretin.
Maybe she's stuck in the portal?
That’s what I was thinking. 🤔
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Bahahaha
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I can save the court time... She did it, nutty isn't incompetent.
She is competent! and highly manipulative and entitled and the court is her playground because you are letting her judge. Have you not learned anything? Even people from around the world know her games by now.
She's SO competent it's not funny anymore!! Lori Vallow Dumbell knew EXACTLY what she was doing then and knows EXACTLY what she's doing now!!! Such a manipulative, narcissistic, piece of crap!!!
Shallow Vallow
Ahhh the games Lori plays, and she will continue as long as the courts allow her too.
Welcome to Arizona Lori. Your real punishment has begun. You're not in Idaho anymore.
I'd be more scared of breaking the law in Idaho than in Arizona cause Idaho is a death penalty state that uses the firing squad.
@@exodiatheforbiddenone186 I think I'd rather face a firing squad on my feet than to be strapped on a gurney helplessly subjected to who-knows-how-much agony while I'm chemically immobilized.
What a waste of tax dollars huh
How can she represent herself but not show up to court?
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@@WyattRyeSway
Nicely said.
Ridiculous these people don’t have to attend their own trials 🤦♀️
@@PlutogalaxyAnother that comes to mind is Adam Montgomery during his trial for the murder of his daughter Harmony Montgomery. In New Hampshire.
This isn't a trial but I agree she should be there for hearings.
@ajk2009 yes, and the evil Thomas Cashman here in the UK. Law now since changed to make them appear for sentencing
Another manipulation by the devil herself! What a coward!!! She is a convicted murderer… she lost her rights! Charles, who begged police for help and warned them repeatedly, BUT WAS IGNORED , deserves better than this!!! 😡
Agreed
Why the heck does Lori get THREE defense attorneys? Is she paying for them? And she wants to represent herself? She is in custody so how can she "refuse" to attend her trial?
The money is coming from somewhere
@@Brian1961-ep4bq the evil church
This is not the trial. This is a hearing to prepare for the trial. Everything must be done by the rule of law in Arizona so that the trial cannot be contested on those grounds.
How on earth is anyone to believe Lori can represent herself when she won't even appear in court? How many times will the court tolerate everyone being present except the defense?
Just a ploy to make it look like she’s not fit enough to stand trial
I mean she’s not. The thing is, she never will be. She’s so delusional there’s no breaking those delusions.
How is that even possible if she is in custody and has to follow jail rules!!! WTF!!!
Agreed 💯 👍🏻
How can a person incarcerated not go to their appointment fir a court hearing? Did she refuse?
That's what they said, she refused to show up!
She's refusing to speak to mental health professionals!!! Mommy Deadly Dearest KNOWS she'll die in jail soooo what does she have to lose?
In other cases I’ve watched the system becomes difficult to those who choose to represent themselves. They won’t send the letter of the date until it’s passed etc. think about it. They know where she is, they are also her transposition. Ask the right questions. Our system has serious issues. This has no regard to her alleged heinous crime. In general, this is what happens when you refuse their representative. However, it’s almost the best thing to do especially in these times we are in.
@@PlutogalaxyCommitted?
Can these lawyers brush their hair and iron their clothes
That's ridiculous she should not be allowed to refuse
I'm sorry she is in prison, how can she not show? It isn't like they can't find her. If she refuses to get up and go then the answer should be NO! You act like a child you get treated like a child.
How does she fail to appear if she's in jail? No LE around? What?
She has the option whether or not to appear in the courtroom
@@Piat65 Well that's just total bullsh*t.
She's too busy speaking to her spirit family she murdered ! RIP beautiful angels JJ as Tylee 💔💔
Wonder why Charles never visits her? 🤷🏻♀️ maybe no one told him which portal the party was in.
@@darlaf2136😅 That’s an apt observation! Never hear about Charles visiting her like the others have? Perhaps it could be because Charles was not a fan of her extreme “fringe” LDS-spin off beliefs?
During a trial in Arizona, a defense attorney may ask for a Rule 11 evaluation of his or her client. Under Rule 11, the defendant has the right to a full mental examination and hearing when reasonable grounds exist for it. A Rule 11 hearing may be held when a defendant is suspected of being mentally incompetent
I have attended Rule 11 hearings in Phoenix. It is quite the process.
Waste of tax payers money!
She’s not insane
Although she might be “delusional” (sometimes at least)?
She’s just evil
She,s in prison she lost her rights ,when her children 🩷🩵 lost there life disgusting
She did have her hair done and no makeup. She should be dragged into court.
She pulled this same manipulation in Idaho & delay6it so much that they couldn't pursue the death penalty. Enough games. The woman is a menace.
guess this shows she can not be trusted to show up for court
“She cannot be trusted to…”. I think anything other than, “be anything other than a total nutjob loony.” 🙄🤷🏼♂️
She may be under the judges desk
She's a criminal, she has no choice but to show up.😠😠😠
JUSTICE FOR CHARLES AND BRANDON PLEASE....
She trying to delay because she hasn’t waived her right to a speedy trial and then she will say the trials need to be dropped because her right to a speedy trial was violated. That’s part of the reason and the fact that all discovery wasn’t given to defense In her trial that she got the death penalty removed. Why can’t they order her to get the mental evaluation and if she doesn’t she is in contempt of court and fined and forced to appear before the judge.
Yes. This is exactly what she did to get the death penalty off the table in Idaho!
This Arizona trial is just a waste of tax payer money. She's already going to die in prison, let her. Finding her guilty again does not bring "justice", there is no "justice" since Charles and Brandon aren't coming back. Sentencing her for a couple more life sentences won't change a damn thing. It's just a money and publicity grab by the prosecution, we all already know she's guilty, don't waste a juries time.
Your right and it looks like Lori is gonna milk this and play Circus Carousel with Lori holding the pretend reigns of the Pink Horsey ! Round n Round she goes. Judge don't give her any more quarters for the Carousel, let's shut it down right now. She's not sick or crazy.. The system is crazy to fall for her game !
Charles was the one who died. Brandon had an attempt made in his life but Alex missed. Thankfully he is still alive. Charles SHOULD be alive, but the cops fell for her flirting and lies. She should not be allowed to refuse attending her hearings.
My goodness that judge speaks so fast lol
Right! I was going to adjust my speed, but it was on NORMAL! 😕
I thought something was wrong with my phone too!! Lol 😂
Give her the DP and carry it out swiftly, we don’t need to pay for that serial killer.
So, she wants to rep herself yet cba to show.. ughhh.. shes vile
Let her rep herself lol. See how that works for her! lol
Nothing has changed with her. She won't get out of prison in Idaho, so what does she have to lose by acting up? This is a show of control to Lori.
@@ceciliawilson6328 wasting tax dollars
And I think she wants free reign to preach as a high priestess from hell. She intends to blow people's minds with her brilliance. They should not allow her to represent herself, period.
Sounds like it was the judge’s policy to have the defendant present. Her not speaking with the mental health experts is causing issues.
Charles and Brandon need justice
She shouldn't have the right to refuse! Get on with it and get it over with it's been going on now for7 or 8 years
That eyebrow pencil and 40’s wave cracks me up🤦♀️🤣
I’m pretty sure it’s sharpie
@@adabee😂😂😂
Her hair has some darker strands maybe trying to match her eyebrows? lol
They can’t make her go
Charles was her first victim and the last to get justice. We already know this woman is a mental case, let’s move on.
Joe was her first victim.
Actually her older sister was her first victim. She’s got a body count of 10 minimum.
I don't understand - how does she have options to be anywhere?!
She must be having a bad hair day 😂😂
Maybe shaved her head?
She's a goddess! She must be in control!😂😂😂😂
I also recall her saying nobody was murdered. Obviously a goddess can't be guilty of crimes that have never occurred.
@@redwagonrodeo1000 Bleached Goddess
What a shame. To play tiddily winks with evil. Shameful
She just has to exert control and the court is letting her!
WTF?!
She just wants to make all sorts of delays. Arizona is a lot warmer than Idaho....She's a snowbird.
hmm odd.. have we not seen other defendants wheeled into court strapped down ?? how is she just allowed to "refuse"?
Defense advised Lori not to cooperate with a competency hearing so Lori refused to meet with the mental health evaluators and has successfully delayed her trial. 🙄 what is there to gain from more delay other than attention? Insufferable creature.
Will this horrible person ever go away
Could she not find anything to fill her eyebrows in with and so did not want to appear?
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Lolo needs to stop playing games and accept responsibility for her actions. Of course that's just a fantasy dream at this point😑🙄
She's too much! Court should know her manipulation tactics. She should be there, like every other criminal.😮😮
wasting people's time
Lori Vallow is playing the same game as the last trial. All of a sudden, there was a miracle . Lori Vallow was competant to stand trial. That was after Mark Means was relieved from being her attorney by the judge. Sorry, Lori Vallow is trying to stall her trial.
She is in prison for life. She has nothing to lose.
I would think shes at the mercy of the prison staff to transport her to court?
She is in jail, not prison.
She is a piece of work. Sorry Colby!
The court needs to know Lori's sane before they can proceed. They can't continue if there's any question of competency.
I guess these new defense attorneys didn’t do enough homework to know that Lori’s case is indeed unique! Like everyone’s saying, she plays games and wants to be the center of attention!
Ms. Manipulator in rare form again today. Obviously she is competent enough to say she wasn't attending. I swear, more stall tactics. Unbelievable!
Pulling an Adam Montgomery. Coward nonesense.
Maybe she appeared via portal and she wasn't seen ! 😉
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Did you even listen?
@@bridgwllI’m deaf and have to read everything
Judge Kraynick would sort her out. 😊
Is this judge on speed? He’s talking so fast you can’t even understand what he’s saying.
Ikr? I even check my settings at first. lol!
Load of bollluxk, judge you need to tell them to get there act together!
Wheel that monster in on a Hannibal lectur dolly why do they let these criminals dictate what happens in court knowing that is the only thing they have power over when incarcerated she wants to represent herself but won’t turn up ok she’s bat 💩
Here we go AGAIN 🙄
How on earth can she "refuse"???
Yall better do something for Charles and Brandon. What a damn JOKE
I just hope someone shows Chad that thumbnail photo of Lori so he can see what he killed his loving wife and traded his life and family for.
How can convict in custody just refuse to appear? Ugh
My guess: she had a bad-hair-day and refused to appear on camera. 😏
She got stuck in her portal. Check her jail cell toilet.
Lori is like :” Nah Judge, don’t need a Rule 11 and I ain’t talking the Dr. They would understand and know nothing. I’m fine.”
Well, in her world she is a goddess
This is pathetic!
No sound here
Wait, what????
I had no idea I could just say I ain’t goin…we’re good
I'm so sick and tired of these games the convicted play! They have zero rights in my book yet continuously waste taxpayer $, tie up courts & lawyers time..appeal after appeal hoping the victims will be forgotten.
This is all big game for Lori. She could care less. She's not going anywhere and she knows it. If this Judge was smart he would be demanding from her. Assessment or not. No more delays. Lori is beyond manipulative lets not forget that.
She ran out of coffee grinds for eye liner.
Playing the same games... she should have been in court shackled.
She is playing her games again like she likes to do because she thinks she is the Almighty being she is coming down for a big fall flat on her face
I thought Lori had decided to represent herself?
Lori knows she will be convicted again, so why waste her time?
Hmmm interesting
Rediculous make her show up is not ok
We want this to play out a lot of tax dollars on this one lot of drama!
What does she care ,either way you chop it up she’s done.
She's still representing herself right? I'm not surprised if thats the case. She's really going to make this difficult 😂
Exactly, but I guess what I don’t understand is if she is representing herself why are there lawyers speaking on her behalf?
@ellietaylor7618 I mean it's gotta move along somehow right? Those lawyers even looked confused on why she wasn't there. This is gonna be one interesting trial.
@@ellietaylor7618she first has to be found competent to represent herself. Until then she has a defense team. Her defense team ordered the evaluation but Lori is stalling. Ugggg!