*These are the changes from yesterday's upload:* - Mythic+ talent build has a new talent swap. Rather than removing a point in time Time Loop, we remove a point in Eureka and put it into Charged Orb. - Single target filler priority list changed. Mainly mana/enemy HP is no longer a factor in barrage conditions. Rotation demonstration was also updated to reflect that. - New funnel rotation section added. *Pure ST Import String* C4DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYMMbzCmxMmFPAjZGGTzMmBAAAAAgBAABMzstssMzELAAAAAAAglhhZmZmxMMzYMzMmZmxYGD *Raid Cleave Import String* C4DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYMMbzCmxMmFPAjZGGTzMmBAAAAAgBAABMzstssMzELAAAAAAAglZMMzMzMmhZmZMmxMzMGGD *Mythic+ Import String* C4DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMjhZbWwMjZmFgZmxYamxMAAAAAAMAAIgZmtlllZmYBAAAAAgNAWmxwMzMzYGMzMGzMzMzYYMA *Written guides:* *Icy Veins by Dutchmagoz:* www.icy-veins.com/wow/arcane-mage-pve-dps-guide *Wowhead by Porom:* www.wowhead.com/arcane-mage-guide
dude! thank you soo much for this guide! it was honestly the most helpful I've come across, the clear and concise explanations as to what to use and when but also why we're using it and not only linking your addon setup but explaining how it works! I have always wanted to play arcane but found a lot of the guilds and discord groups very elitist and snobby, it was really refreshing to come across a helpful guide that doesn't belittle me for needing a long explanation of arcane or using an addon to help out a bit lol. thank you!!
Thank you friend, you don't know how much these helps. After changing rotataion again and again this expansion and we've only started has been pretty daunting, so again thank you.
Not a huge arcane fan but with fire in the dirt, you my friend are my hero haha. Really neat barrage assist weakaura as well! Thank you so much for this video!!
Another great guide LETS GOOO! If I could request one thing though, could you show your damage breakdown at the end of your rotation demos? Although it may be kind of obvious what it will look like, I just like to use it to gauge damage % weights and I find it works as a good comparison metric for me.
Don't know if you saw my comment yesterday but I suspected that you didn't need to worry about mana or enemy health. Thanks for updating the guide as all the other info is really useful :) Thanks!
Top tier guide as always ! Big thanks on behalf of all the mages ! Btw. is there by any chance a way to extract only the upper part of Your Barrage helper WA, and not the HP bar itself ?). Would be nice to have the green icons glowing sorted next to each other in a small pack on my screen.
Please bro, I beg of you, make a fire mage guide, I cannot stress this enough, you are by far the best at explaining rotations and priorities and I believe that if you make a fire mage guide I will be able to understand it
@@LgamerYTproplayer give it a go, just generate hotstreaks lol. Jokes aside I promise it's simple. it has min maxing but the general idea is pretty basic. and well, you probably do more damage as arcane because it's tuned stronger right now. 😜
thanks for putting all the effort in the video. I directly imported your resource aura without changing anything. There are no icons at all above the health bar, nothing to suggest I need to barrage. Does this needs to be used alongside something else?
mate i downloaded ur weakaura, but i switched to frost and disabled the weakaura. But somehow the resource bar is not going away. It just stays there even after removing ur weakaura. How do we fix this?
How do you have the purple and blue parenthesis proc around your character? I only ever have 1 purple even on stacks so I have no indication of stacks. Also I’ve never seen the blue parenthesis around my character.
thanks for putting all the effort in the video. I directly imported your resource aura without changing anything. There are no icons at all above the health bar, nothing to suggest I need to barrage. Does this needs to be used alongside something else? Could you please explain further how to get this to work?
Question.. where do extra clearcasting procs fall in the priority? Based on your list and demo, it looked like you did not use them and cast arcane blast instead, so you only cast Missiles to generate Nether Precision when you don't have it? and never cast it when you have NP up already?
i apologize if i just missed it or its been asked. But at how many targets do you just start sending barrage at 4 charges? i believe I've seen 2-3 is AOE for SS. And is that the case in raid as well? thank you for the guide! Also with your barrage helper. when its glowing green with just the barrage icon why is that saying to send? if i use it then i dump all my charges. should i then send an orb to help recoup them in ST?
So what do you do on Single Target in Mythic + (AOE Spec and environment) Spec? Like a boss in a dungeon? Do you still go for the ST rotation even though you are M+ specced?
I don't understand why barrage is cast if you don't have clearcast and you have tier or aethervision but without nether precision... isn't it better to launch arcane explosions until you have clear cast? And in the tool that you have uploaded, whenever it lights up green, do you have to launch barrage? Thank you very much Phoros and congratulations for the guide.
Asking about ST rotation, and in AOE ROTATION When i have 4 charges i should cast barrage without nether? Or cast before misiles and cast barrage with nether… in The priority list i Cant understand it, Thank you
Thanks for the guide! Could you please explain why do we use arcane exposion on 0 charges and then use Arcane Blast in AOE rotation? I guess we could just spam one of them until we get back 4 charges - to simplify the rotation without a significant loss in DPS. What do you think?
ALso, the only thing I'm really finding confusing is when to use arcane missles? Is it indicated from the weak aura? or just whenever it is up? Or are you just watching for Clearcasting? Is that indicated by weak aura?
I often have this problem: When I have no netherprecision, no clear casting but have an arcane orb up, I will send the Barrage, leaving me with 0 charges. Then I will orb, which only brings me to 2 charges. I will have to double arcane blast to get back up to 4. Is this correct?
If you have the treacherous transmitter trinket (huge int buff on 1.5 min cd) is it better to wait to use your cds for it to be off cooldown (it’s offset because shifting power reduces evo/surge cd to below 1.5 min). If it is better to wait, would it not just be better to not use shifting power? Or is it better to keep normal cd times and use the trinket on cd even if it doesn’t align with your cds
so last condition for barrage is if you have orb charge. if you're running the talent that gives you 2 orbs, there will eventually be a case where you barrage, orb, have 2 charges, and have another orb. Do you barrage at 2? or do you orb for 4 charges (even though it shows it as a lower priority) or do you just send the barrage down to 0 and then orb back to 2?
phosphoros ty so muchfor these guide , igot everything and i did understand it but i need to understand 1 more thing please : sometimes u barrage when u have 1x aethervision when i should do that ? that part kinda confused me
I'm getting older, and not really interested in min/maxing and watching every if/then statement in my rotation for procs and such. I understand that I'll lose dps if I don't do this rotation perfectly. But, my question is this. Is there a simpler, more passive, easier rotation build? For example, if I sim my character at 1M dps with this rotation and spec, can I remove like 3 active spells to watch, and add in passive talents that won't get me to 1M dps, but perhaps with fewer buttons I pull 800k? A 20% reduction to simplify things and watch mechanics more seems like a fair trade off to me.
I might of missed it somewhere. When he clips his arcane Barrage, that stops the cast therefor you miss out on the damage. So when he gets a barrage that hits more targets, don’t you miss out on a ton of damage?
I would like to support this question, as I am a beginner with Arcane. It would be great if someone could help us. It feels like Barrage is only for buffing purposes, with exception for the Aether Attunement version of it.
I think you meant to say Arcane Missiles, correct me if I'm wrong there. You are correct that you miss out on the damage when you stop the cast, that is why when we get a Missiles cast that hits more targets (due to having the Aether Attunement buff), you do NOT want to clip that cast of MIssiles. We only clip Arcane Missiles casts that are NOT buffed by Aether Attunement. The reason for this is that unmodified Arcane Missiles are very weak, so most of the damage we gain from casting them are from the Nether Precision stacks we generate. When we have the Aether Attunement buff however, the damage gain is worth letting the cast fully channel both in ST and in AoE. Hope that made sense.
perfect guide thank you! but i have a question why should we clip arcane missiles cast ? 2 more proc of arcane harmony and arcane debilitation is not worth it to full cast it ?
This video is great content. I already had most of the information (mage since WOTLK) but this is a great informational for new players for sure. The only thing I'd suggest is to make the screen evenly split during the rotational demo so its easier to follow on the eyes. The smaller portion being gameplay kinda feels weird. Keep up the great content, and thank you!
For ST in Filler prio step 3.a, when you say "one of the following" do you mean one and only one of the following (in other words, a XOR condition)? More simply, do I go through step 3.a if 3.a.1 AND 3.a.2 are both true?
Thank you for the guide! I was wondering if its possible to take your wa and apply it to my own icons instead? The logic to determine when to light up icons, but for my modified version of luxthos mage ui.
I like your “barrage now” weakaura, but it is a little difficult to see. Can you modify your nether precision weakaura? Make it change from blue to red (or whatever color) when you should barrage and you have nether precision. Or, just pop up as red when you don’t have nether precision and you ought to barrage. Not sure how hard this is to do, but it would be awesome if you have time and it isn’t too difficult.
What are the stat weights for spellslinger vs Sunfury? I see that vers might be simming higher than crit or mastery by just a little bit. Also I can't import the talents for sunfury from the old video because of the update I'm assuming.
Can I ask a stupid question? Does the mythic plus build just use the AOE rotation or can I also use your single target weak aura when appropriate? I guess I am asking, is the Mythic+ spec so different that your weak aura won't really work because its meant for mainly AOE?
No, you will still follow the ST rotation where appropriate using the M+ build, as M+ has ST fights, usually bosses. The M+ build sacrifices some ST firepower for more AOE, and it also has more utility spells which are useful in M+, but in ST scenarios you're following the same rotation and so the conditions for barrage that the weak auras outline remain relevant. It's the AOE rotation itself that has different conditions for when to barrage (ie 4 charges.) He provided some cheat sheets in the description of the vid of how the AOE priority works, as well as ST and funnel, but it's also on wowhead.
Hi, really nice guide. I want to ask something. When i sim my character arcane splinter allways has the highest damage. However when i do the same rotation on a dummy arcane splinter comes out as 5th or 6th on damage. The sim does like 3.2m overall, i do like 3.1m on a dummy. overall dmg output doesnt change but the dmg distribution of the spells changes. ive tried this many times and couldnt make arcane splinter the top dmg spell. Do you have any idea why does this happen ?
Hello there ! First, thanks for your guide and keep up the good work. I think that i'm not the only one to need your help 😅. I have a question though : in the ST rotation i dont understand why you dont spell queue an Arcane barrage each second arcane Blast to benefit from Neather Precision buff. If i'm not mistaken in your demo of St rotation you do 3 arcanes blast instead of 2 + clip barrage. Since blizzard reverted the nerf, you can clip a barrage like old style, benefit from the new talent Aether Vsion to have 4 arcanes charge garanted, a chance to launch an Orb and get extra splinter in the process. And actually maintain the haste buff. Maybe i'm not very clear or i made a mistake with my english. Just a french guy trying to learn.
Whenever I do a Missiles > Blast > Blast + Barrage, it is usually because I don't have a Clearcasting stack during the second Arcane Blast cast. Because of this, once I complete the cast I will already have 2 stacks of Aethervision and no Clearcasting stack, which fulfills condition 3.a.2 so I queue the Arcane Barrage. Hope this made sense, if you still have any questions just link me a timestamp and I can try to add some more context.
Thx for your answer. I understand your explanation on the conditions for barrage. 3.a.2 is fulfilled But 3.a.1 isnt ? When you Blast>Blast+Barrage, isnt the 3 spells = 2 uses of Neather precision anymore ? What i dont know, and maybe it's the source of my problem of understanding your choice is either : - the barrage queing on 2nd Blast doesnt benefit from Neather Precision. (So it makes sense to wait for 3.a.2) - the barrage spellqueu dont have time to benefit from the second stack of Aethervision. (So the whole condition 3.x.x)
With the barrage conditions removed (but still there for Sunfury), it seems like it's more streamlined than Sunfury, although in practice I've noticed that Glorious Incandescence will overlap with the other conditions anyway so it'll simplify the decision a bit... definitely much easier to keep track of Spellslinger's optimal rotation in AOE, though. Is there a reason btw that SF doesn't take Arcane Tempo into its barrage conditions (re the WoWhead guide for it), seeing as it is also a haste priority spec?
@@Mevaricko1o It's a weakaura that plays the sound whenever Barrage lands inside of Touch of the Magi. I just use it for fun. Here's the link if you want to give it a try: wago.io/6desM--1m
Are we farming a cc proc with aethervison or only if we have one at the time? I feel like half the time we’re already in the middle of casting arcane blast when we get the proc from the previous blast while consuming aethervision
*These are the changes from yesterday's upload:*
- Mythic+ talent build has a new talent swap. Rather than removing a point in time Time Loop, we remove a point in Eureka and put it into Charged Orb.
- Single target filler priority list changed. Mainly mana/enemy HP is no longer a factor in barrage conditions. Rotation demonstration was also updated to reflect that.
- New funnel rotation section added.
*Pure ST Import String*
C4DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYMMbzCmxMmFPAjZGGTzMmBAAAAAgBAABMzstssMzELAAAAAAAglhhZmZmxMMzYMzMmZmxYGD
*Raid Cleave Import String*
C4DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYMMbzCmxMmFPAjZGGTzMmBAAAAAgBAABMzstssMzELAAAAAAAglZMMzMzMmhZmZMmxMzMGGD
*Mythic+ Import String*
C4DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMjhZbWwMjZmFgZmxYamxMAAAAAAMAAIgZmtlllZmYBAAAAAgNAWmxwMzMzYGMzMGzMzMzYYMA
*Written guides:*
*Icy Veins by Dutchmagoz:* www.icy-veins.com/wow/arcane-mage-pve-dps-guide
*Wowhead by Porom:* www.wowhead.com/arcane-mage-guide
why is mana/hp no longer a factor
How do you get the barrage sound?
@@СветлозарИванов-ы9ь I'm also curious why it both isn't one for SS anymore, but remains one for SF (according to the Wowhead guide anyway.)
@PhosphorosWoW can you see 1 of my logs & tell me what i do wrong to my rotation ?
how to add that strings . Sorry but im new in that .
It is simplifiying the rotation ! Thank god I was worried about the 70% mana condition and 35% target health. Thank you for the guide
One of the best guides I've seen. Very clear and well presented. Hopefully you can do a frost one if you're not exclusively arcane
manather has his up. hes the frost guy
The goat of WoW guides continues. Thank you! And please consider making a Fire Mage guide ❤️
dude! thank you soo much for this guide! it was honestly the most helpful I've come across, the clear and concise explanations as to what to use and when but also why we're using it and not only linking your addon setup but explaining how it works! I have always wanted to play arcane but found a lot of the guilds and discord groups very elitist and snobby, it was really refreshing to come across a helpful guide that doesn't belittle me for needing a long explanation of arcane or using an addon to help out a bit lol. thank you!!
Finalllyyy!! the person that we were waiting for to put a guide for us lol thank you for the guide! hope you put more content bro
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Seriously THE GOAT OF GUIDES ! Great JOB mate
Thank you friend, you don't know how much these helps. After changing rotataion again and again this expansion and we've only started has been pretty daunting, so again thank you.
This is best fkin guide i seen on any class rotation ever in 10 years. Best part is highlighted parts of rotation while actually doing it.
Had to subscribe! Thank you very much for this guide. I'm new to WoW and videos like this make it so much easier to understand and get into.
Thx a lot. By far the best guide I ever saw.
Thank you, man.
I really needed a tutorial that explained the whys as well as the whats.
AND THE LEGEND CONTINUES.
Not a huge arcane fan but with fire in the dirt, you my friend are my hero haha. Really neat barrage assist weakaura as well! Thank you so much for this video!!
All your guides are so clearly explained, thank you bro.
Another great guide LETS GOOO! If I could request one thing though, could you show your damage breakdown at the end of your rotation demos? Although it may be kind of obvious what it will look like, I just like to use it to gauge damage % weights and I find it works as a good comparison metric for me.
Don't know if you saw my comment yesterday but I suspected that you didn't need to worry about mana or enemy health. Thanks for updating the guide as all the other info is really useful :) Thanks!
Goated guides as always. The side by side for the rotation is so helpful
Another banger video from Phosphoros. Appreciate the content friend
Top tier guide as always ! Big thanks on behalf of all the mages !
Btw. is there by any chance a way to extract only the upper part of Your Barrage helper WA, and not the HP bar itself ?). Would be nice to have the green icons glowing sorted next to each other in a small pack on my screen.
Just uploaded a version you can check out here: wago.io/LdudzMVsh
And you can also check out Porom's Barrage Helper here: wago.io/AcHUF7O_G
would love that too
Please bro, I beg of you, make a fire mage guide, I cannot stress this enough, you are by far the best at explaining rotations and priorities and I believe that if you make a fire mage guide I will be able to understand it
fire mage is kindergarden compared to this man... and way more forgiving.
@ fr? I don’t really understand fire mage, I deal a lot more dps as arcane for some reason
@@LgamerYTproplayer give it a go, just generate hotstreaks lol. Jokes aside I promise it's simple. it has min maxing but the general idea is pretty basic. and well, you probably do more damage as arcane because it's tuned stronger right now. 😜
@@cy2326 lol if you think that fire is more forgiving than arcane u should play pally ^^
Goated Guide. This is the First guide, i dont feel like needing a PHD to play Arcane.
"gO pLaY ClAsSiC" nobody wants overly conplex gameplays.
The Orb Barrage/Spellfrost Teachings Procs WA wont load for me, saying 2 displays not loaded does anyone know how to fix this?
oh my, Phos, finally you back. thanks for the video. goated
not the remixed runescape music hahaha what a gamer
Great Guidemaker! Really thank you mate! It is so fun to play but so hard to understand :D
Big appreciation for what you're doing - thanks!!
imported the personal resource WA...it is only visible in combat...how to have it show all the time?
I love this guide, better than preheat
I swear you get about a thousand more procs during aoe than I do
thanks for putting all the effort in the video. I directly imported your resource aura without changing anything. There are no icons at all above the health bar, nothing to suggest I need to barrage. Does this needs to be used alongside something else?
Very nice Guide! Is there a way to get a sound alert when any of the conditions go green?
mate i downloaded ur weakaura, but i switched to frost and disabled the weakaura. But somehow the resource bar is not going away. It just stays there even after removing ur weakaura. How do we fix this?
Thank you for the guide !
How can I get the Arcane Blast timer like how you have it at 6:20? I'm still new so I don't know much.
Amazing guide, thank you
Very good guide! Thanks!
I have a stupid question! Why i dont have ice block on this talent??
Hi there! thank you for making this. how do I remove the text in your weak aura? The orb barrage & spellfrost teachings txt
How do you have the purple and blue parenthesis proc around your character? I only ever have 1 purple even on stacks so I have no indication of stacks. Also I’ve never seen the blue parenthesis around my character.
thanks for putting all the effort in the video. I directly imported your resource aura without changing anything. There are no icons at all above the health bar, nothing to suggest I need to barrage. Does this needs to be used alongside something else? Could you please explain further how to get this to work?
Question.. where do extra clearcasting procs fall in the priority? Based on your list and demo, it looked like you did not use them and cast arcane blast instead, so you only cast Missiles to generate Nether Precision when you don't have it? and never cast it when you have NP up already?
i apologize if i just missed it or its been asked. But at how many targets do you just start sending barrage at 4 charges? i believe I've seen 2-3 is AOE for SS. And is that the case in raid as well? thank you for the guide!
Also with your barrage helper. when its glowing green with just the barrage icon why is that saying to send? if i use it then i dump all my charges. should i then send an orb to help recoup them in ST?
So what do you do on Single Target in Mythic + (AOE Spec and environment) Spec? Like a boss in a dungeon?
Do you still go for the ST rotation even though you are M+ specced?
I don't understand why barrage is cast if you don't have clearcast and you have tier or aethervision but without nether precision... isn't it better to launch arcane explosions until you have clear cast? And in the tool that you have uploaded, whenever it lights up green, do you have to launch barrage? Thank you very much Phoros and congratulations for the guide.
Asking about ST rotation, and in AOE ROTATION When i have 4 charges i should cast barrage without nether? Or cast before misiles and cast barrage with nether… in The priority list i Cant understand it, Thank you
What do you do with 0 arcane charges. 2 nether precisions and clear casting available? No orb or magi
What about tracking the Barrage Orb proc? How do you make surr u use it?
Thanks for the guide!
Could you please explain why do we use arcane exposion on 0 charges and then use Arcane Blast in AOE rotation? I guess we could just spam one of them until we get back 4 charges - to simplify the rotation without a significant loss in DPS. What do you think?
is there a reason to not macro TotMagi to arcane surge and apply it first for more damage?
Well since Frost seems to be the wave instead of arcane can we get a guide since yours tend to be the best?
10/10 thumbnail
also good video
xoxo
whats the addon that shows your cast times scrolling across the top? didnt see it in your addon video
Cast Timeline by Dorovon: wago.io/cWI3bhMz2
anyone?
ALso, the only thing I'm really finding confusing is when to use arcane missles? Is it indicated from the weak aura? or just whenever it is up? Or are you just watching for Clearcasting? Is that indicated by weak aura?
How is the macro for " Click cast arcane blast" ?
I often have this problem:
When I have no netherprecision, no clear casting but have an arcane orb up, I will send the Barrage, leaving me with 0 charges. Then I will orb, which only brings me to 2 charges. I will have to double arcane blast to get back up to 4. Is this correct?
Correct
@@PhosphorosWoW so it will feel bad trying to get the last 2 charges? That sucks haha
I think I often overspend and end up having 0 charges
Hello What name ísť this addon or where can i get profile of this cast bar
For Arcane missiles, do you only cast once you used up the nether precision stacks?
Why HP and Mana is no longer a Factor for the rotation?
If you have the treacherous transmitter trinket (huge int buff on 1.5 min cd) is it better to wait to use your cds for it to be off cooldown (it’s offset because shifting power reduces evo/surge cd to below 1.5 min). If it is better to wait, would it not just be better to not use shifting power? Or is it better to keep normal cd times and use the trinket on cd even if it doesn’t align with your cds
Can you make a WA for the other rotations?
so last condition for barrage is if you have orb charge. if you're running the talent that gives you 2 orbs, there will eventually be a case where you barrage, orb, have 2 charges, and have another orb. Do you barrage at 2? or do you orb for 4 charges (even though it shows it as a lower priority) or do you just send the barrage down to 0 and then orb back to 2?
assuming orb to 4 and then blast to get clearcast and keep going instead of being at 2 charges and trying to pump, but we'll see if prosp answers
You would Orb again for 4 charges
phosphoros ty so muchfor these guide , igot everything and i did understand it but i need to understand 1 more thing please :
sometimes u barrage when u have 1x aethervision when i should do that ? that part kinda confused me
I'm getting older, and not really interested in min/maxing and watching every if/then statement in my rotation for procs and such. I understand that I'll lose dps if I don't do this rotation perfectly. But, my question is this. Is there a simpler, more passive, easier rotation build? For example, if I sim my character at 1M dps with this rotation and spec, can I remove like 3 active spells to watch, and add in passive talents that won't get me to 1M dps, but perhaps with fewer buttons I pull 800k? A 20% reduction to simplify things and watch mechanics more seems like a fair trade off to me.
what add on od you use to get evocation/ other cooldowns above your health bar like that?
I might of missed it somewhere. When he clips his arcane Barrage, that stops the cast therefor you miss out on the damage. So when he gets a barrage that hits more targets, don’t you miss out on a ton of damage?
I would like to support this question, as I am a beginner with Arcane. It would be great if someone could help us. It feels like Barrage is only for buffing purposes, with exception for the Aether Attunement version of it.
I think you meant to say Arcane Missiles, correct me if I'm wrong there.
You are correct that you miss out on the damage when you stop the cast, that is why when we get a Missiles cast that hits more targets (due to having the Aether Attunement buff), you do NOT want to clip that cast of MIssiles. We only clip Arcane Missiles casts that are NOT buffed by Aether Attunement. The reason for this is that unmodified Arcane Missiles are very weak, so most of the damage we gain from casting them are from the Nether Precision stacks we generate. When we have the Aether Attunement buff however, the damage gain is worth letting the cast fully channel both in ST and in AoE.
Hope that made sense.
@@PhosphorosWoW Indeed, I meant Missiles, sorry. 😀 Thank you for the clarification.
Please make frost guide build video there is no high quality content. I feel forced to swich to it to push higher keys and u are the best ❤
perfect guide thank you! but i have a question why should we clip arcane missiles cast ? 2 more proc of arcane harmony and arcane debilitation is not worth it to full cast it ?
Could you tell pls how do you compare a math of different rotations?
i checked logs and i saw my arcane splinter dmg is so low . What did i wrong about the rotation ?
thanks, great video!
This video is great content. I already had most of the information (mage since WOTLK) but this is a great informational for new players for sure.
The only thing I'd suggest is to make the screen evenly split during the rotational demo so its easier to follow on the eyes. The smaller portion being gameplay kinda feels weird.
Keep up the great content, and thank you!
Very well constructed guide thank you 🙏🏻
So in aoe other than main burn and miniburn we don’t use blast? So we spend NP on 4 charges barrages?
For ST in Filler prio step 3.a, when you say "one of the following" do you mean one and only one of the following (in other words, a XOR condition)? More simply, do I go through step 3.a if 3.a.1 AND 3.a.2 are both true?
Yes as long as either one of the two (or both) are true then you are free to Barrage as long as 3.a is fulfilled.
on mythic+ with mythic+ talents, which talents I use on boss? single or aoe or funel?
Your barrage WA only seems to light green for mewhen it comes to arcane tempo and not for other conditions, am i doing something wrong? ty!
how it is possible to have so many barrage procs in AoE rotation???
what do you use for a casting bar?
Thank you for the guide! I was wondering if its possible to take your wa and apply it to my own icons instead? The logic to determine when to light up icons, but for my modified version of luxthos mage ui.
when do you use supernova or you dont use it at al?
I like your “barrage now” weakaura, but it is a little difficult to see. Can you modify your nether precision weakaura? Make it change from blue to red (or whatever color) when you should barrage and you have nether precision. Or, just pop up as red when you don’t have nether precision and you ought to barrage. Not sure how hard this is to do, but it would be awesome if you have time and it isn’t too difficult.
What are the stat weights for spellslinger vs Sunfury? I see that vers might be simming higher than crit or mastery by just a little bit. Also I can't import the talents for sunfury from the old video because of the update I'm assuming.
Is there any chance u will start uploading m+ runs again we learned so much from it
thanks for the guide update. any chance of fire and frost guides?
Can I ask a stupid question? Does the mythic plus build just use the AOE rotation or can I also use your single target weak aura when appropriate? I guess I am asking, is the Mythic+ spec so different that your weak aura won't really work because its meant for mainly AOE?
No, you will still follow the ST rotation where appropriate using the M+ build, as M+ has ST fights, usually bosses. The M+ build sacrifices some ST firepower for more AOE, and it also has more utility spells which are useful in M+, but in ST scenarios you're following the same rotation and so the conditions for barrage that the weak auras outline remain relevant. It's the AOE rotation itself that has different conditions for when to barrage (ie 4 charges.) He provided some cheat sheets in the description of the vid of how the AOE priority works, as well as ST and funnel, but it's also on wowhead.
Thank you legend!
Hi, really nice guide. I want to ask something. When i sim my character arcane splinter allways has the highest damage. However when i do the same rotation on a dummy arcane splinter comes out as 5th or 6th on damage. The sim does like 3.2m overall, i do like 3.1m on a dummy. overall dmg output doesnt change but the dmg distribution of the spells changes. ive tried this many times and couldnt make arcane splinter the top dmg spell. Do you have any idea why does this happen ?
Hello there ! First, thanks for your guide and keep up the good work. I think that i'm not the only one to need your help 😅.
I have a question though : in the ST rotation i dont understand why you dont spell queue an Arcane barrage each second arcane Blast to benefit from Neather Precision buff. If i'm not mistaken in your demo of St rotation you do 3 arcanes blast instead of 2 + clip barrage.
Since blizzard reverted the nerf, you can clip a barrage like old style, benefit from the new talent Aether Vsion to have 4 arcanes charge garanted, a chance to launch an Orb and get extra splinter in the process. And actually maintain the haste buff.
Maybe i'm not very clear or i made a mistake with my english. Just a french guy trying to learn.
Whenever I do a Missiles > Blast > Blast + Barrage, it is usually because I don't have a Clearcasting stack during the second Arcane Blast cast. Because of this, once I complete the cast I will already have 2 stacks of Aethervision and no Clearcasting stack, which fulfills condition 3.a.2 so I queue the Arcane Barrage. Hope this made sense, if you still have any questions just link me a timestamp and I can try to add some more context.
Thx for your answer.
I understand your explanation on the conditions for barrage.
3.a.2 is fulfilled
But 3.a.1 isnt ? When you Blast>Blast+Barrage, isnt the 3 spells = 2 uses of Neather precision anymore ?
What i dont know, and maybe it's the source of my problem of understanding your choice is either :
- the barrage queing on 2nd Blast doesnt benefit from Neather Precision. (So it makes sense to wait for 3.a.2)
- the barrage spellqueu dont have time to benefit from the second stack of Aethervision. (So the whole condition 3.x.x)
@@PhosphorosWoW help me with the UI pls
Is the priortiy/rotation up top a WA or Addon?
Phos im using your "Arcane Personal Resource" but the bar disappears as soon as i leave combat. any advice to fix this?
He has it set to only load in combat. Go into the WA load conditions and click the combat option so the check box is completely gone.
@@izPanda_ could have thought about that myself, thank you sir!
With the barrage conditions removed (but still there for Sunfury), it seems like it's more streamlined than Sunfury, although in practice I've noticed that Glorious Incandescence will overlap with the other conditions anyway so it'll simplify the decision a bit... definitely much easier to keep track of Spellslinger's optimal rotation in AOE, though.
Is there a reason btw that SF doesn't take Arcane Tempo into its barrage conditions (re the WoWhead guide for it), seeing as it is also a haste priority spec?
@PhosporosWoW wich addon or weak auras is this one that track your casted spells?
heyo , please what is the addon/weak aura for cast bar ? and also for that upper thingy that shows your rotation on screen ? :) ty
The cast bar is an addon called Quartz.
The rotation display is a weakaura, here's the link:
Cast Timeline by Dorovon: wago.io/cWI3bhMz2
I kind of wish NP was also tracked on that wa just so I can track it in the same grouping.
How do you get the kaching sound on barrage?
@@Mevaricko1o It's a weakaura that plays the sound whenever Barrage lands inside of Touch of the Magi. I just use it for fun. Here's the link if you want to give it a try: wago.io/6desM--1m
I still do more dips as SF frost lol I can’t figure out arcane
Phosphoros what mage spec you believe is strong right now in m+
so is sunfury out now? spellslinger is the move? I just leveled a mage from 1-80 so I am brand new to the class
Yes Spellslinger is recommended for all content atm. Sunfury is very close as well but slightly behind.
Thank you very much for this guide, are the specs still actual or?
Arcane barrage helper is not working for me
Are we farming a cc proc with aethervison or only if we have one at the time? I feel like half the time we’re already in the middle of casting arcane blast when we get the proc from the previous blast while consuming aethervision
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