I want to give you a shout out because this video was able to let me do this myself instead of paying 800$ the mechanic wanted. That's 800 in my 7 kids mouth thanks to you!!!! Hats off to you my friend
+BadAss Jeep Thank you! We love empowering our customers and showing how to perform DIY auto repairs with our high-quality auto parts, not to mention save you some money! 1AAuto.com
I replaced these hoping to fix a clunk I had when accelerating from a stop and when heavy braking. I started noticing the clunk after I had the subframe out of the car when changing the transmission input shaft bearing. A year later, and after replacing nearly everything in the front end with no success, I finally found the issue. Apparently the subframe should be tightened with weight on the tires, not when jacked up. I loosened the 4 -17mm bolts holding it, let the car off the jack stands, then tightened them back up. Clunking is finally gone! Another thing I did was make sure the sway bar was aligned correctly, equal distance from the control arm on both sides - loosen the 2 bushing brackets and use a pry bar to wiggle it left or right as needed. I even paid a mechanic to diagnose the noise, he had me replacing parts unnecessarily. Thanks for video, hopefully my comment will also help someone out there, cheers!
Great videos. Little tip - when torquing the lug nuts, orient the torque wrench so you are pushing down rather than lifting up. Trying to pick up that much weight while bent over is hell on your back when you could just use your own weight to push down on the wrench.
*Tips for getting the REAR BOLT of the control arm to lign up* You bearly threads in the front bolt and ball joint nut. Intall the new sway bar links but do NOT tighten them yet just put the nuts on the ends of the threads. Then you take your rubber mallet and tap the arm into the front first, line it up with the screwdriver and get the bolt in a few threads and leave it alone for now. Seat theballjoint and get the nut on the end of the threads then leave it as well. NOW For the rear, push the arm in to where it should bolt upto the subframe then tap it in with the mallet until you see the holes line up, line it up with the screwdriver then slide the clean bolt with some penetrating oil or fluid film in until it stops. If the threads won't line up, take a wrench place it against the axle shaft and apply light pressure like 1lb at most, to the head of the bolt, tap the top of the arm downwards with the bolt still in, now take your screw driver and wedge it under the rear control arm and subframe and give it a wiggle while still keeping light pressure on the bolt. It will click or move in more when you have it lined up correctly, then without letting off of the bolt try turning it and getting the threads to finally seat and tread together. It takes a while but tapping the arm down with the mallet with the bolt in part way then lifting up the arm with the screwdriver while holding the bolt in was how I got it together. Just do it over and over until it works, don't crossthread it. Tighten the front bolt the ball joint both sway bar nuts then the rear bolt and it pulls itself together tighten each nut a bit at a time so nothing binds.
My breakdown and tips. Get new swaybar links the old ones won't survive easily. Need a Allen key to stop the ball and screw from spinning in the socket. I just angle grind them off. It's not worth the effort and time trying to save sway bar/stabilizer links. Sway bar link - 14mm - around 20/25lbs Balljoint nut - 17mm - 43lbs torque install Front control arm bolt - 19mm -61lbs torque Rear control arm radial bolt - 19mm - 61lbs •Ball joint puller tool not the c shaped one with the screw in the center it didn't fit H.F. tool. The lever style would work on this civic. 100× better then the hammer (Use hearing protect and eye protection if you go hammer) •Long screwdriver for bolt alignment. Helps big time getting the rear bolt back in. •Rubber mallet or dead fall hammer •wire brush or wheel to clean rust and hardware •fluid film spray to coat the control arm inside and nuts and bolts. Clean with isopropyl and rags first.
always good videos. most of the suspension work i did so far was done with the help of these guys. got my rear shocks from 1Aauto and will get to that 2morro. ✌
+Omar Chisolm Thank you for the great reply. We love to empower our customers by showing you how-to perform your own auto repairs while installing our high quality auto parts. Have a great day! 1aauto.com
Replacing Honda parts is almost funny lol. My dads a self taught mechanic he owned a shop back in the day. It’s cool to do work with him even though I Mostly ask questions and watch lol. Driving after he changes something is funny because it just makes me happy that he helps me with my car lol.
All there parts are china made i wouldn't buy it from them go with "moog" you get what you paid for also check out "import direct" orielly brand they're great!
hey im having a slight problem the bolt that goes in is the subframe the nut is now turning with the bolt i think the welds broke off from age i guess on bc i put to much strength when torquing it back do you know i cant do vice grips are not doing the trick do i have to change the subframe? or i can just call a welder and weld the nut?
Good video, except for the part about loosening the ball joint. I hit it with a big hammer several times, as suggested. But it wouldn't budge. Ended up renting a screw type ball joint separator from an auto parts store. That did it in about a minute. Worked in my driveway, with jack stands; that was OK. The rear bolt on the passenger side arm was tricky, as the steering box is in the way.
A little tip for anyone I just got done, my control arm was STUCK to the ball joint I used a torch and put a long pry bar and hammered it off from the top
Hi. Great video! Thanks. Where did you place the jack, on the control arm?, when you lifted up the arm to where the car just came off the lift before screw in tight the front and rear bushing arms?
im having hell separating the ball joint from the lower control arm; the loaner tool from AZ (arizona) just dont cut it. the video pretends it is a breeze and no help for those like in my case. it is not the first time I go through this. last time I hit the hell out of the ball joint from below until it popped out. afterwards I couldnt put the castle nut back on due to all the damage done to the end of the ball joint but that was my last resort. so a couple bangs with a good hammer, eh? - I doubt it.
Ryan Smith I have a 03 Honda Civic my right side control arm broke I was told it has one type control arm while some else said it has a upper and lower is there one arm or two
From my experience, yes! You probably dont have the gear to get the alignment lasered precision! Its super essential for a smooth drive! After replacing control arm, definitely have an expert have the system aligned ad they will do it right!
My lower control arm bushings are all shot on my 02 Civic, I was wondering if it’s worth going through each bushing and changing them out or would I be better off replacing the whole lower control arm?
Was going to do the front struts as did the back last week. After watching the this video, seems might as well do the control arms as since more room with strut assembly out of there. Any issues doing this?
seems so simple until i actually do it and get to the castle nut part off other 2 bolts ready to come out and... can't disconnect the tie rod from the control arm. feels super fused together.
So I got the back bolts out and now the arm is hanging from the ball joint I don't have a good size hammer what do I do It's 8:49 pm mosquitoes are out!!!
Where did you place the jack when you simulated driving conditions in order to torque the 19mm bolts? Also How high do you need to lift it prior to torquing?
+Javi Aguilera This installation process should be very similar. At this time we do not have any videos showing this installation but are always expanding our video library. We would suggest checking through some other TH-cam channels or forums for your vehicle.
1A Auto Parts it’s because i got a control arm for my 03 civic lx from your company and was wondering if i could take off the bushings that are on there
+RattlingLalo Thank you for your inquiry! The bushings that come with the new control arms are not meant to be removed, as bushings from other companies might not fit them.
Why didn’t you also replace the ball joints? I need to do this but I also need the ball joints replaced and I thought the control arms come with a ball joint in them already?
+Frank Bob Todd The lower control arms for the hatchback are different than the coupe/sedan lower control arms. Due to this, the procedure may be slightly different. Thanks for checking us out!
Today i got new ball joints and the mechanic brought me over to see the lower control arm passnager side and he showed me it slipped down hanging there ..he said i need a new arm but why cant i just change the middle bushing
You can just change the bushing. It's not a big deal if you access to a hydraulic press, but if you don't, it gets pretty expensive if you need a shop to press out and press in the new bushings.
You can. But they need to be pressed out. Maybe he didn't have a press. Bushings are way cheaper than a whole new control arm. Maybe that's y he told you to put a new one
You're better off doing it yourself. Unless you find a mechanic that works for liquor you're gonna pay $500 or more when you can spend $150-$200 on parts and tools.
+Michael McCullough We don't have a how-to video for your vehicle right now, but the basic steps in this video should be enough to do this task. Buy this part for your vehicle on 1AAuto.com: 1aau.to/m/Shop-1AAuto-c
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I want to give you a shout out because this video was able to let me do this myself instead of paying 800$ the mechanic wanted. That's 800 in my 7 kids mouth thanks to you!!!! Hats off to you my friend
+BadAss Jeep Thank you! We love empowering our customers and showing how to perform DIY auto repairs with our high-quality auto parts, not to mention save you some money! 1AAuto.com
Why do you have so many kids, not condemning just asking?
I replaced these hoping to fix a clunk I had when accelerating from a stop and when heavy braking.
I started noticing the clunk after I had the subframe out of the car when changing the transmission input shaft bearing. A year later, and after replacing nearly everything in the front end with no success, I finally found the issue. Apparently the subframe should be tightened with weight on the tires, not when jacked up. I loosened the 4 -17mm bolts holding it, let the car off the jack stands, then tightened them back up. Clunking is finally gone! Another thing I did was make sure the sway bar was aligned correctly, equal distance from the control arm on both sides - loosen the 2 bushing brackets and use a pry bar to wiggle it left or right as needed. I even paid a mechanic to diagnose the noise, he had me replacing parts unnecessarily. Thanks for video, hopefully my comment will also help someone out there, cheers!
Great videos. Little tip - when torquing the lug nuts, orient the torque wrench so you are pushing down rather than lifting up. Trying to pick up that much weight while bent over is hell on your back when you could just use your own weight to push down on the wrench.
+Luke Martineau Thanks for checking us out and for the suggestions. 1AAuto.com
*Tips for getting the REAR BOLT of the control arm to lign up*
You bearly threads in the front bolt and ball joint nut. Intall the new sway bar links but do NOT tighten them yet just put the nuts on the ends of the threads. Then you take your rubber mallet and tap the arm into the front first, line it up with the screwdriver and get the bolt in a few threads and leave it alone for now. Seat theballjoint and get the nut on the end of the threads then leave it as well. NOW For the rear, push the arm in to where it should bolt upto the subframe then tap it in with the mallet until you see the holes line up, line it up with the screwdriver then slide the clean bolt with some penetrating oil or fluid film in until it stops. If the threads won't line up, take a wrench place it against the axle shaft and apply light pressure like 1lb at most, to the head of the bolt, tap the top of the arm downwards with the bolt still in, now take your screw driver and wedge it under the rear control arm and subframe and give it a wiggle while still keeping light pressure on the bolt. It will click or move in more when you have it lined up correctly, then without letting off of the bolt try turning it and getting the threads to finally seat and tread together. It takes a while but tapping the arm down with the mallet with the bolt in part way then lifting up the arm with the screwdriver while holding the bolt in was how I got it together. Just do it over and over until it works, don't crossthread it. Tighten the front bolt the ball joint both sway bar nuts then the rear bolt and it pulls itself together tighten each nut a bit at a time so nothing binds.
Hope this helps if anyone runs into my issue.
My breakdown and tips.
Get new swaybar links the old ones won't survive easily. Need a Allen key to stop the ball and screw from spinning in the socket. I just angle grind them off. It's not worth the effort and time trying to save sway bar/stabilizer links.
Sway bar link - 14mm - around 20/25lbs
Balljoint nut - 17mm - 43lbs torque install
Front control arm bolt - 19mm -61lbs torque
Rear control arm radial bolt - 19mm - 61lbs
•Ball joint puller tool not the c shaped one with the screw in the center it didn't fit H.F. tool. The lever style would work on this civic. 100× better then the hammer (Use hearing protect and eye protection if you go hammer)
•Long screwdriver for bolt alignment. Helps big time getting the rear bolt back in.
•Rubber mallet or dead fall hammer
•wire brush or wheel to clean rust and hardware
•fluid film spray to coat the control arm inside and nuts and bolts. Clean with isopropyl and rags first.
Wire brush bolts and nuts to bare metal for better longevity and easier future repairs.
always good videos. most of the suspension work i did so far was done with the help of these guys. got my rear shocks from 1Aauto and will get to that 2morro. ✌
+Omar Chisolm Thank you for the great reply. We love to empower our customers by showing you how-to perform your own auto repairs while installing our high quality auto parts. Have a great day! 1aauto.com
Replacing Honda parts is almost funny lol. My dads a self taught mechanic he owned a shop back in the day. It’s cool to do work with him even though I Mostly ask questions and watch lol. Driving after he changes something is funny because it just makes me happy that he helps me with my car lol.
I wish the ball joints were pressing into the control arm. It would make life so much easier.
1A Auto makes great videos! I am about to possibly start buying parts from them to see how well they do.
All there parts are china made i wouldn't buy it from them go with "moog" you get what you paid for also check out "import direct" orielly brand they're great!
Derrty92lude Thanks 👍
hey im having a slight problem the bolt that goes in is the subframe the nut is now turning with the bolt i think the welds broke off from age i guess on bc i put to much strength when torquing it back do you know i cant do vice grips are not doing the trick do i have to change the subframe? or i can just call a welder and weld the nut?
Good video, except for the part about loosening the ball joint. I hit it with a big hammer several times, as suggested. But it wouldn't budge. Ended up renting a screw type ball joint separator from an auto parts store. That did it in about a minute. Worked in my driveway, with jack stands; that was OK. The rear bolt on the passenger side arm was tricky, as the steering box is in the way.
Thank you for the comments and for watching ! +Allan Neymark
A little tip for anyone I just got done, my control arm was STUCK to the ball joint I used a torch and put a long pry bar and hammered it off from the top
Hi. Great video! Thanks. Where did you place the jack, on the control arm?, when you lifted up the arm to where the car just came off the lift before screw in tight the front and rear bushing arms?
Your vids are the best.
im having hell separating the ball joint from the lower control arm; the loaner tool from AZ (arizona) just dont cut it. the video pretends it is a breeze and no help for those like in my case. it is not the first time I go through this. last time I hit the hell out of the ball joint from below until it popped out. afterwards I couldnt put the castle nut back on due to all the damage done to the end of the ball joint but that was my last resort. so a couple bangs with a good hammer, eh? - I doubt it.
nice now I just need another tutorial for the other one :D
Ryan Smith
I have a 03 Honda Civic my right side control arm broke I was told it has one type control arm while some else said it has a upper and lower is there one arm or two
Hammer trick didn't do anything for my car, ball joint will not break loose. Good video, but not so much for older cars, like mine. Thanks!
So I've looked and cannot find a video on how to do it for the 06-11 Civic. Do y'all not have one?
thank you, best video for what i needed to do!
Is an alignment needed afterwards?
From my experience, yes! You probably dont have the gear to get the alignment lasered precision! Its super essential for a smooth drive! After replacing control arm, definitely have an expert have the system aligned ad they will do it right!
My lower control arm bushings are all shot on my 02 Civic, I was wondering if it’s worth going through each bushing and changing them out or would I be better off replacing the whole lower control arm?
+jack meoff typically it's best to replace things together when you can, but it really depends on the condition of your control arms.
Is this the same for the other side also I assume?
Is this the real kevin hart
If you don't jack up the control arms before tightening bolts what are the risks?
Death
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Was going to do the front struts as did the back last week. After watching the this video, seems might as well do the control arms as since more room with strut assembly out of there. Any issues doing this?
+John Bizer Thanks for watching. You do not have to change them out necessarily, but it will give you more room to work!
@@1AAuto Thanks for the reply and going to do it
When u get ready to tighten the control arm bolt, do u have to set the hub and control arm in ride position on all vehicles?
Yes
Nice vid
Did y’all get an alignment after changing both control arms?
+LC It is recommended to get an alignment after replacing any steering and suspension parts to have optimal use of the new parts.
Do you think this job is still doable if you do not have access to a lift?
pedrogonzalez1829 yes I've done it with jack stands and a jack
pedrogonzalez1829 yes lift car with jacks at least 2 feet.
defintely
Mobile mechanics do everything without a lift...
seems so simple until i actually do it and get to the castle nut part off other 2 bolts ready to come out and... can't disconnect the tie rod from the control arm. feels super fused together.
Hi mike! How many foot pounds is the stabilizer link when you torque them?
Guten tite
29 ft lbs
I'm having trouble getting the back bolt aligned, what can I do?
Do the control arms come with the compliance bushings?
Where can I get the bolts for them?
Tools used:
14mm spanner
5mm hex
17mm socket
19mm spanner
So I got the back bolts out and now the arm is hanging from the ball joint
I don't have a good size hammer what do I do
It's 8:49 pm mosquitoes are out!!!
Get a bigger hammer or get mad with a 16oz one lol
Where did you place the jack when you simulated driving conditions in order to torque the 19mm bolts? Also How high do you need to lift it prior to torquing?
parallel to the ground.
Why can't I get the holes to align? If I do one side and put the bolt, can't do the same for the other
does the Japanese Honda civic use the same parts as the American civic?
Thanks i think this is similar to my 06 civic si, these bushings always go out on control arms, along with linkage, & outer tie rod
Would you happen to have a DIY for an 09 si coupe ? Thatd be very helpful or are they similar to these models ?
+Javi Aguilera This installation process should be very similar. At this time we do not have any videos showing this installation but are always expanding our video library. We would suggest checking through some other TH-cam channels or forums for your vehicle.
@@1AAuto ok perfect thank you very much !
Great instructional video but the background music makes it so hard to concentrate on what you're doing.
can you take out the bushings to put a new one in for my lowered civic
+RattlingLalo We're always cycling through common cars. We'll add this repair to our list! 1aau.to/m/Shop-1AAuto-c
1A Auto Parts it’s because i got a control arm for my 03 civic lx from your company and was wondering if i could take off the bushings that are on there
+RattlingLalo Thank you for your inquiry! The bushings that come with the new control arms are not meant to be removed, as bushings from other companies might not fit them.
1A Auto: Repair Tips & Secrets Only Mechanics Know thank you for the information
Why didn’t you also replace the ball joints? I need to do this but I also need the ball joints replaced and I thought the control arms come with a ball joint in them already?
+Lyle J This video was just showing the control arms. If your ball joints also need replacing then now is the perfect time to get all done at once.
If Im planning to change the lower control arms and the suspension, would it be easier to do this together?
**Suspension coming in about a month.
+Cesar Rodriguez It may be easier to do it all at once! Thanks for checking us out!
What part do I need to fix my rear tires from camber inwards
Is this process different if it is a hatchback?
+Frank Bob Todd The lower control arms for the hatchback are different than the coupe/sedan lower control arms. Due to this, the procedure may be slightly different. Thanks for checking us out!
1A Auto Parts hell yeah thank you for replying !!
+Frank Bob Todd Thanks for checking us out! 1aau.to/m/Shop-1AAuto-c
Today i got new ball joints and the mechanic brought me over to see the lower control arm passnager side and he showed me it slipped down hanging there ..he said i need a new arm but why cant i just change the middle bushing
You can change the bushings, it's just a hassle though, easier to remove old and replace new arm.
You can just change the bushing. It's not a big deal if you access to a hydraulic press, but if you don't, it gets pretty expensive if you need a shop to press out and press in the new bushings.
You can. But they need to be pressed out. Maybe he didn't have a press. Bushings are way cheaper than a whole new control arm. Maybe that's y he told you to put a new one
Probably to late for you know but for how much the bushing cost and hassle to take it off. Atleast for me it was easier and better to just replace it
How much does this cost at a shop compared to buying all the tools nessecary to do the job yourself?
jsproat52 $735
You're better off doing it yourself. Unless you find a mechanic that works for liquor you're gonna pay $500 or more when you can spend $150-$200 on parts and tools.
I paid like $240 for the front driver side. I think for the passenger side I'm going to do it myself next time
S I'm doing the driver side now... And it won't free from the ball joint
Patients and more wacking
Would this be the same process for a 2019 civic?
+Michael McCullough We don't have a how-to video for your vehicle right now, but the basic steps in this video should be enough to do this task. Buy this part for your vehicle on 1AAuto.com: 1aau.to/m/Shop-1AAuto-c
Can we get a tutorial for the 06 model?
Funny Guy Check out our library for more videos. 1aau.to/m/video-library
would you need alignment after?
Is this the same for a 2002 acura rsx base model?
It may be a different procedure on your application. We currently do not have an auto repair video for this particular year, make and model. Thank you for asking. 1aauto.com +Richard Loayza
Really surprised you didn't have the hand brake on.
The lighting is bad cant see any thing
Oh nevermind... My puny hammer did it
My bolt is turning with the rubber and I can't get it out, any ideas how to get it out?
How did you get it out?
which bolt?
@@sparco023 same fml
gonna try to get better vice grips, and if fail, try cut, and if fail have to replace subframe -_-