Last time I was on the VR was my last day at High School in 1998. Moffat and Williamson had a fleet of them. On one of them, when it went over a bump, you could see daylight between the rubber seal and the frame at the top right of the driver's windscreen!
Leyland 0.680 engine..... superb power plant, simple an effective. As an apprentice mechanic at a civil engineering company, we had a Scammel Highwayman low loader for shifting the plant around, this had the 680 engine fitted. What a workhorse, apart from firing 1 of the injector nozzles into a piston crown during a hard climb in North Wales one day, the engine only ever received regular servicing. Had a few niggles with the rigid fuel feed line from the lift pump to the filter bowl cracking from vibration, replacing it with a flexi pipe cured that. Ran for decades....
beautiful sound, like music & i remember a lot of if not all these double deckers sometimes drivers would put or leave them in 4th gear & the gears would go to auto changing, semi auto boxes
We had a lot of automatic VR's in Lincoln, as Lincoln City Transport specced theirs like that from new. But they just had a 3 position lever, with auto, hold and reverse.
Superb video Craig. I was lucky enough to drive the Southdown ones in service. They had DP-type seats and a high ratio axle for the Portsmouth to Brighton service. They were an absolute joy to drive.
I drove them on the 729, Brighton to Tunbridge Wells and the 712, Brighton to Eastbourne. Great vehicles to drive, plenty of grunt and beautifully matched transmission.
I swear that bus used to have an auto box. Probably long since failed. The controller was under the rear seat on the n/s and automatically operated the semi auto box. You could watch the leds change state as the box removed the throttle to change gears and then reapply. I believe it was of two at bath depot in the 80’s. 5545 was unique as it had the number only transign in the front which was way too small and quickly faded. Nice to see it still sounds as great now as it did on my way to school.
I wouldn't know if it was originally automatic, but I gather a few of them were. I remember watching an Atlantean transmission control box in action once, like you say there was a lot of flashing led's involved.
If anyone is interested, I've uploaded another video of this bus, this time where I was on much better and faster roads. th-cam.com/video/eY3HohBNShg/w-d-xo.html
Why was it common to start off from standstill in 2nd gear with the Bristol VR? Was the gear ratio for 1st too short or something? And more applicable for hill starts? Curious
Jammy bugger, Mike letting you drive CHER EWS753W, a motor rarer than a Bugatti Veyron!!. She always has attitude, one hundred fifty Prancing Preston Ponies twirling five screaming Self Changing Gears, banging crashing screeching like any self respecting 680 ,VR. I HAVE a recording of her made April 2003 at Stroud Bus Rally, with a blown exhaust, YES CATS&KITTENS!! I Rode CHER with a blown elbow on her exhaust ,I SAT RIGHT OVER THE BLOWN EXHAUST ,THAT 680 LEYLAND ROARING JESUS CHRIST WAS MAGIC!!! EAT YOUR HEART OUT GARETH MALONE.
Same as a Mk2 National, but upright in a VR. More in common with an Atlantean engine. Most Leyland powered VR's came fitted with a 501 engine, which is very similar to the 510 in a Mk1 National.
We had 2 of these at Hadleigh bus dept (Eastern National) the drivers used to fight over who was going to take then out, brilliant motor.
I suspect they may have had the Leyland 501 engine. Only Badgerline and Southdown had the 680 version from new.
I remember those with Badgerline. I always thought them interesting. The Leyland 501 engined ones were interesting too.
Last time I was on the VR was my last day at High School in 1998. Moffat and Williamson had a fleet of them. On one of them, when it went over a bump, you could see daylight between the rubber seal and the frame at the top right of the driver's windscreen!
Leyland 0.680 engine..... superb power plant, simple an effective. As an apprentice mechanic at a civil engineering company, we had a Scammel Highwayman low loader for shifting the plant around, this had the 680 engine fitted. What a workhorse, apart from firing 1 of the injector nozzles into a piston crown during a hard climb in North Wales one day, the engine only ever received regular servicing. Had a few niggles with the rigid fuel feed line from the lift pump to the filter bowl cracking from vibration, replacing it with a flexi pipe cured that. Ran for decades....
beautiful sound, like music & i remember a lot of if not all these double deckers sometimes drivers would put or leave them in 4th gear & the gears would go to auto changing, semi auto boxes
We had a lot of automatic VR's in Lincoln, as Lincoln City Transport specced theirs like that from new. But they just had a 3 position lever, with auto, hold and reverse.
Superb video Craig. I was lucky enough to drive the Southdown ones in service. They had DP-type seats and a high ratio axle for the Portsmouth to Brighton service. They were an absolute joy to drive.
I drove them on the 729, Brighton to Tunbridge Wells and the 712, Brighton to Eastbourne. Great vehicles to drive, plenty of grunt and beautifully matched transmission.
I swear that bus used to have an auto box. Probably long since failed. The controller was under the rear seat on the n/s and automatically operated the semi auto box. You could watch the leds change state as the box removed the throttle to change gears and then reapply. I believe it was of two at bath depot in the 80’s. 5545 was unique as it had the number only transign in the front which was way too small and quickly faded. Nice to see it still sounds as great now as it did on my way to school.
I wouldn't know if it was originally automatic, but I gather a few of them were. I remember watching an Atlantean transmission control box in action once, like you say there was a lot of flashing led's involved.
So weird hearing an 0.680 VR. It's almost like having a Gardner engine in an Atlantean.
Like the HTV logo sound.
Great video mate.
She's certainly not short of power!
Definitely not. I'm told it will do over 60, which is good going for a VR.
If anyone is interested, I've uploaded another video of this bus, this time where I was on much better and faster roads.
th-cam.com/video/eY3HohBNShg/w-d-xo.html
Why was it common to start off from standstill in 2nd gear with the Bristol VR? Was the gear ratio for 1st too short or something? And more applicable for hill starts? Curious
Jammy bugger, Mike letting you drive CHER EWS753W, a motor rarer than a Bugatti Veyron!!. She always has attitude, one hundred fifty Prancing Preston Ponies twirling five screaming Self Changing Gears, banging crashing screeching like any self respecting 680 ,VR. I HAVE a recording of her made April 2003 at Stroud Bus Rally, with a blown exhaust, YES CATS&KITTENS!! I Rode CHER with a blown elbow on her exhaust ,I SAT RIGHT OVER THE BLOWN EXHAUST ,THAT 680 LEYLAND ROARING JESUS CHRIST WAS MAGIC!!! EAT YOUR HEART OUT GARETH MALONE.
I love this how is not an an68 atlantean most bizarre
It sounds just like an Atlantean without it's fan drive.
She sounds really good but it sounds like she has an air leak
That was the emergency door buzzer buzzing
Ciao ho un bus come questo puoi aiutarmi a trovare i ricambi ?
Same engine as in the National?
Same as a Mk2 National, but upright in a VR. More in common with an Atlantean engine. Most Leyland powered VR's came fitted with a 501 engine, which is very similar to the 510 in a Mk1 National.
Also Gardner 6lxb and 6lxb. Some yes fo get Volvo or daf engines as replacements. Would be interesting with a Detroit.