Think 10 SX is a bit too few. Maybe -12-13 SX with a 1 week mid-season break -3 week break (normally 2) -10 MX with a 1 week mid-season break -2 week break -3 SMX I think that would pretty much be the same overall schedule as now except the 3 series season would end around a month earlier & add a month to their off-season
My concept is 15sx, 10mx, 3smx with breaks every 5 rounds. Then for the break in MX make it a 2 week break for Loretta’s. The break between sx and Mx would 3 weeks, and break between Mx and smx would 2 weeks
At what point do these guys stop training as much during the week? Everybody complains about the Monday through Friday and how taxing the longer seasons are because of it. With 31 races a year they're not going to lose the conditioning that they have, they just aren't. Race day is a conditioning day as well, especially for outdoors. I'm not saying that they don't train at all, but at what point is the conditioning hurting them? It definitely hurts them mentally based on how many pros retire before they're 30 (until this generation). Why not focus most of the week on bike skills and more targeted bike training?
@andyhughes8051 no shit it's not backyard football lol. But there is such a thing as over training which I do think many of them do based on interviews I've seen. Look how many guys get burnt out at aldens as an example. I could be wrong, maybe they aren't over training, but listen to what they say about the mxgp guys, aside from having less races, the training isn't nearly as grueling either.
its a joke with what these guys get paid. They should ALL Strike... for at a MINIMUM, 10 less rounds + multiple 2 week breaks. Higher win purses would be gravy.
The only payout that's a joke is race pay. Anyone on a factory team, or even good satellite team, is making good money. They could also make more money by making themselves marketable. Yet the vast majority don't. That's on them.
It cracks me up MXS released the earnings of all the riders like it was going to make them look good then you see deegan makes 3778 a round. Chase double that. Top level athletes making 4k per round Imagine.
@@genesis2187 no. Why would I? Do you factor on Nike sponsorship when talking about how much NFL players make? No. That's a bonus. Mxs is making out like bandits.
Scottie Scheffler in golf made like 100k per shot, for the entire year. Top level guys in every sport make double digit thousands per game. These guys aren’t getting paid enough.
How they can complain about the rhythm section when Deegan was quading all day long is crazy. It feels like Deegan is naturally better than everyone not named Jett.
Double headers during the California swing. I loved the mid week races during Covid. The series doesn’t need to be competing against football. Drop one supercross and one motorcross along with a double header and the season ends Labor Day
There was already talk a decade ago about how the back to back all year AMA SX MX calendar is too brutal. They've simply added this bonus series to the end of it all. You can't do a Chad and sit out MX, and still qualify for SMX playoffs, so theyre leveraging the big purses to overwork the guys.
Been starting to feel guilty watching the races. These guys go thru a lot just for our entertainment. But would rather have less races that were gnarly tracks than 31 where they doze and flatten the jumps!!
I don't understand, there are 3 Championships in the year, they don't have to compete in all of them unless they want the money. If they do want the money, then you're going to need to show up. I think my work year is too long, but I don't have the option of sitting out of work for 5 months.
They need to suck it up. They already have plenty of time off. Plenty of us ride and go to the gym almost every day, then have a big ride on Saturday and / or Sunday, and we also work 40 to 70 hours a week on top of that. Suck it up, fruit cup. Do your job like the rest of us, and be thankful you get to make a living riding a motorcycle. Most of us don't have the talent. I know I never did.
Yeah sure, tell that to any factory team.. They'll point to the door and say "no thanks, we'll find someone else." Not really an option unless you're like Tomac, Jett, etc. Even still I don't think Honda would go for something like that, ler alone any other team.
The "TV" deal with NBC is what forces the season length and is therefore the cause of the problem. All this "network" commercial ad revenue goes to the promoter. Yet its mostly just Peacock streaming. NBC rarely broadcasts races. A real legitimate TV deal would broadcasts all the races. So really, its just a streaming deal. Maybe the goal is to get more NBC live broadcasts over time, as the ratings increase, getting SMX more exposure to new fans. This is an antiquated strategy. Viewers habits are to stream. SMX should just utilize and expand their own SMX streaming Network/Channel, and sell ad time directly. They are mostly likely carrying most if not all of the production cost already. By going "in-house" they can keep their talent in more races over time, and offer amateur race broadcast productions, and new SMX motocross shows. All of the ingredients are there.
The SX season is too long IMO. Stoked for the season to start every year but I’m over it 3/4 the way through with the 4-strokes on cookie cutter tracks and so much air time-it gets stale. I dig the SMX series with the hybrid tracks and outdoors is the heart so leave that alone and MXDN is the pinnacle so continue that tradition. Just my .02 as a fan since 78’.
Ya no shit they should definitely do the seasons straight through no stupid 1-2 week breaks mid season cause that cuts in on there off season and probs still woulda needa take off a round or two for supercross
I can see old school MX and SX fans saying these guys are just complaining.. But then they never did season's like this either.. Staying healthy through the entire race seasons makes a world of difference.. But most don't have that Ryan Dungey barely ever hit the ground and get hurt seasons.. Or even mainly like Tomac had been over a lot of his years as well.. The good, there are more races to make up for it.. The bad, there are so many races that it is likely to happen.. So it sort of goes either way.. And wins going to the ones that are in every race...
There's a way to circumvent the whole thing about burnout you start having drops and points in heat races and stop crossing the coasts your west coast rounds are all in a row and you stop letting mx sports use Indiana as a round just so they can leave all their equipment there and save themselves a trip.
MX Sports had everything to lose when WSX showed up yet they some how came out on top. In stead of paying the riders more so they would show up, they teamed up with Feld and strong armed WSX. Seems like the riders are over it, maybe they will form a riders union.
Feld and coombs family should pay the teams to come and race why should teams pay everyone to put money in felds and coombs pocket for the little bitty purses
It was a little surprising that Eli was so wishy washy and didn't stand up for anything. Yeah, unfortunately that's the crap attitude of the MX/SX promoters. They really aren't getting a lot of money overall. Sure a little more for SMX but the rest of the season is total crap money wise! Look at what every rider has made for the year it's a complete joke! Compare Praters salary to what they are paying if they really want to talk crap. The riders and teams really need to unify together for a voice against Feld and MX Sports. Hopefully they keep talking about it and add the teams into the conversations as well. It needs to get to a management level with a unified voice.
The issue with this show and all the other shows.You guys are too young to understand how the world works. NASCAR took over supercross motor cross.That's why you have a long schedule.Just like NASCAR I can't believe you.People don't understand what's going on.
Should do supercross and motocross should be every other year. So riders and promoters and fans can be more prepare. One year motocross one year supercross
40 hours a week? Sounds like some soft hands talk. I do 40 hours a day on a bad day. Usually I do 74 hours a day and at least 33 of those are just prep work and unpaid.
Even as a die hard fan I have agree the season is too long.
I think 10 and 10 with the 3 smx rounds would be fine.
Think 10 SX is a bit too few. Maybe
-12-13 SX with a 1 week mid-season break
-3 week break (normally 2)
-10 MX with a 1 week mid-season break
-2 week break
-3 SMX
I think that would pretty much be the same overall schedule as now except the 3 series season would end around a month earlier & add a month to their off-season
My concept is 15sx, 10mx, 3smx with breaks every 5 rounds. Then for the break in MX make it a 2 week break for Loretta’s. The break between sx and Mx would 3 weeks, and break between Mx and smx would 2 weeks
So much money in SX, 14, 9, and 5 SMX rounds would probably be pretty great for these boys
More outdoors less supercross and less coombs family hoarding all the monoutdoor purses are a joke
Never going to happen LOL. There is barely any money in MX
Mx is way more gruelling on their bodys than Sx though.
At what point do these guys stop training as much during the week? Everybody complains about the Monday through Friday and how taxing the longer seasons are because of it. With 31 races a year they're not going to lose the conditioning that they have, they just aren't. Race day is a conditioning day as well, especially for outdoors. I'm not saying that they don't train at all, but at what point is the conditioning hurting them? It definitely hurts them mentally based on how many pros retire before they're 30 (until this generation). Why not focus most of the week on bike skills and more targeted bike training?
Because they are professional athletes. This isn't backyard football. They only way they get a break from training is if there is a longer off season.
@andyhughes8051 no shit it's not backyard football lol. But there is such a thing as over training which I do think many of them do based on interviews I've seen. Look how many guys get burnt out at aldens as an example. I could be wrong, maybe they aren't over training, but listen to what they say about the mxgp guys, aside from having less races, the training isn't nearly as grueling either.
its a joke with what these guys get paid. They should ALL Strike... for at a MINIMUM, 10 less rounds + multiple 2 week breaks. Higher win purses would be gravy.
The only payout that's a joke is race pay. Anyone on a factory team, or even good satellite team, is making good money. They could also make more money by making themselves marketable. Yet the vast majority don't. That's on them.
10 less rounds ? Put the black tar down.
Divide the series between east and west? Rotating race venues giving more riders a chance to proof themselves.
They can't stop training during mid season break. I think they would prefer to wrap up the season sooner and not have a break at all.
You’re a liberal aren’t you. 😂 #Freemoney #Dontworktomakemillions
It cracks me up MXS released the earnings of all the riders like it was going to make them look good then you see deegan makes 3778 a round. Chase double that. Top level athletes making 4k per round Imagine.
factor in spono money.
@@genesis2187 no. Why would I? Do you factor on Nike sponsorship when talking about how much NFL players make? No. That's a bonus. Mxs is making out like bandits.
Scottie Scheffler in golf made like 100k per shot, for the entire year. Top level guys in every sport make double digit thousands per game. These guys aren’t getting paid enough.
@@genesis2187 Sponsors aren't paying them to race SMX. Only SX and MX.
How they can complain about the rhythm section when Deegan was quading all day long is crazy. It feels like Deegan is naturally better than everyone not named Jett.
Double headers during the California swing. I loved the mid week races during Covid. The series doesn’t need to be competing against football. Drop one supercross and one motorcross along with a double header and the season ends Labor Day
There was already talk a decade ago about how the back to back all year AMA SX MX calendar is too brutal. They've simply added this bonus series to the end of it all. You can't do a Chad and sit out MX, and still qualify for SMX playoffs, so theyre leveraging the big purses to overwork the guys.
Been starting to feel guilty watching the races. These guys go thru a lot just for our entertainment. But would rather have less races that were gnarly tracks than 31 where they doze and flatten the jumps!!
I don't understand, there are 3 Championships in the year, they don't have to compete in all of them unless they want the money.
If they do want the money, then you're going to need to show up.
I think my work year is too long, but I don't have the option of sitting out of work for 5 months.
They don’t have the option either unless they’re already a legend of the sport with huge leverage in negotiations
They need to suck it up. They already have plenty of time off. Plenty of us ride and go to the gym almost every day, then have a big ride on Saturday and / or Sunday, and we also work 40 to 70 hours a week on top of that. Suck it up, fruit cup. Do your job like the rest of us, and be thankful you get to make a living riding a motorcycle. Most of us don't have the talent. I know I never did.
Yeah sure, tell that to any factory team.. They'll point to the door and say "no thanks, we'll find someone else." Not really an option unless you're like Tomac, Jett, etc. Even still I don't think Honda would go for something like that, ler alone any other team.
The "TV" deal with NBC is what forces the season length and is therefore the cause of the problem. All this "network" commercial ad revenue goes to the promoter. Yet its mostly just Peacock streaming. NBC rarely broadcasts races. A real legitimate TV deal would broadcasts all the races. So really, its just a streaming deal. Maybe the goal is to get more NBC live broadcasts over time, as the ratings increase, getting SMX more exposure to new fans. This is an antiquated strategy. Viewers habits are to stream. SMX should just utilize and expand their own SMX streaming Network/Channel, and sell ad time directly. They are mostly likely carrying most if not all of the production cost already. By going "in-house" they can keep their talent in more races over time, and offer amateur race broadcast productions, and new SMX motocross shows. All of the ingredients are there.
The SX season is too long IMO. Stoked for the season to start every year but I’m over it 3/4 the way through with the 4-strokes on cookie cutter tracks and so much air time-it gets stale. I dig the SMX series with the hybrid tracks and outdoors is the heart so leave that alone and MXDN is the pinnacle so continue that tradition. Just my .02 as a fan since 78’.
Ya no shit they should definitely do the seasons straight through no stupid 1-2 week breaks mid season cause that cuts in on there off season and probs still woulda needa take off a round or two for supercross
Oh no you have to work 40 weeks out of the year. Boo hoo buddy
I can see old school MX and SX fans saying these guys are just complaining.. But then they never did season's like this either.. Staying healthy through the entire race seasons makes a world of difference.. But most don't have that Ryan Dungey barely ever hit the ground and get hurt seasons.. Or even mainly like Tomac had been over a lot of his years as well.. The good, there are more races to make up for it.. The bad, there are so many races that it is likely to happen.. So it sort of goes either way.. And wins going to the ones that are in every race...
There's a way to circumvent the whole thing about burnout you start having drops and points in heat races and stop crossing the coasts your west coast rounds are all in a row and you stop letting mx sports use Indiana as a round just so they can leave all their equipment there and save themselves a trip.
And the racers of today don't have to do 3 motos per race.
It seems simple why not just have 13 rounds of supercross that would give them an entire month off
MX Sports had everything to lose when WSX showed up yet they some how came out on top. In stead of paying the riders more so they would show up, they teamed up with Feld and strong armed WSX. Seems like the riders are over it, maybe they will form a riders union.
More and more of that money goes to the teams.
They ran just as many or more races back in the 80's and 90's. They were working out of a box truck with no air conditioning.
I like the long season. Maybe they need to retire early? AMA will not put an age restriction for when you have to leave, I hope they don't.
The more races they’ve add the longer the average career has become.
Less sx and go back to 12 rounds of outdoors better ,and gnarlyer racing and tell coombs family to have bigger payouts and stop being so tight
Will never happen LOL
Feld and coombs family should pay the teams to come and race why should teams pay everyone to put money in felds and coombs pocket for the little bitty purses
It was a little surprising that Eli was so wishy washy and didn't stand up for anything. Yeah, unfortunately that's the crap attitude of the MX/SX promoters. They really aren't getting a lot of money overall. Sure a little more for SMX but the rest of the season is total crap money wise! Look at what every rider has made for the year it's a complete joke! Compare Praters salary to what they are paying if they really want to talk crap. The riders and teams really need to unify together for a voice against Feld and MX Sports. Hopefully they keep talking about it and add the teams into the conversations as well. It needs to get to a management level with a unified voice.
Because Eli is an animal dgaf!
It is too long.
If your not having fun riding dirtbikes anymore, its time to quit is all.
Deegan will do 60 rounds and ask for more🎉
but hes still a kid and minds can change with the grind and injuries that comes with in my mind one of the toughest sports out there.
There are 2 A1 RACES ?
The issue with this show and all the other shows.You guys are too young to understand how the world works. NASCAR took over supercross motor cross.That's why you have a long schedule.Just like NASCAR I can't believe you.People don't understand what's going on.
What an colossally inaccurate statement
bro watched Cooksey and thinks he has it all figured out.
Should do supercross and motocross should be every other year. So riders and promoters and fans can be more prepare. One year motocross one year supercross
That's one of the dumbest things I've read.
Waaaaa. 😭 Try the 40+ hrs a week grind.
Your poor little 40+ hours Sally
40 hours a week? Sounds like some soft hands talk. I do 40 hours a day on a bad day. Usually I do 74 hours a day and at least 33 of those are just prep work and unpaid.