Citroen CX Diesel | Mercedes 300D | Car Review | Drive In | 1976

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  • Tony Bastable takes a look at the new Diesel Citroën CX saloon and the Mercedes 300D.
    First shown: 20/10/1976
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  • @BlueMonk25
    @BlueMonk25 5 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    That Mercedes 300D is still running and will continue to run until the last barrel of diesel is pumped

    • @callumhardy5098
      @callumhardy5098 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think the Citroen was the better car despite the Mercedes’ reliability.

    • @malo4200
      @malo4200 ปีที่แล้ว

      just listen to the sound of the door closing in the Merc and compare it to the Citroen

    • @PJ-om2wq
      @PJ-om2wq ปีที่แล้ว

      There'll probably be synthetic diesel one day

  • @bens1972
    @bens1972 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    A lot of TV camera crews used the Citroen to film the Horse Races as they had to travel on the grass or rough track, next to the race course. The Citroen CX was the only car that had a smooth enough ride to achieve the footage.
    CX was a brilliant car.

  • @johnstairs
    @johnstairs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Love Tony’s slightly pissed off presentation style.

    • @ewaf88
      @ewaf88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      In those days there was still 3 1/2 hours until opening time

    • @therealbettyswollocks
      @therealbettyswollocks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You’d be pissed off driving a diesel hearse

    • @mosesberkowitz3298
      @mosesberkowitz3298 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@therealbettyswollocks LOL...It is big enough to fit a coffin!

    • @psiakrew5650
      @psiakrew5650 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rocking the controlled fury until he spazzes out into full Partridge 😎

    • @elvistsakane121
      @elvistsakane121 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      citroen streaks ahead !!!!

  • @xavichuvy9047
    @xavichuvy9047 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Eventually Citroën put a 120hp 2.5 Turbo Diesel engine on the CX, making it the world's fastest diesel with a top speed of 195Km/h. A bit of a dream car when I was a kid. I'd still love to have one of those.

  • @mattbod
    @mattbod 5 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    P.S Cheaper until it becomes too popular: prophetic words.

    • @Decrepit_biker
      @Decrepit_biker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just what I thought

    • @KretinoSantino
      @KretinoSantino 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's like EV's today. With few, they are subsidized and are charged with electricity taxed only by VAT.
      But in EU, most significant income of most governments are fuel taxes (because everyone has to move). Once EV's will have any significant marketshare (I'm not talking about Netherlands nutjobs with poisoned land, pretending to save planet with couple of EV's or extremly rich per capita Norway, again ruining environment far more than any other country per capita), I'm pretty sure EV's charging will be taxed alot.

    • @MajorT0m
      @MajorT0m 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I was thinking the same thing.

    • @evo5dave
      @evo5dave 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was about to post the same thing! Prophetic indeed!

    • @MajorT0m
      @MajorT0m 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's really annoying how folk started using linseed oil instead of diesel, then the gov got wind and put the duty of linseed oil higher than diesel if you buy 6 litres or more. Even though linseed oil is better for the environment and the gov constantly gult trips us about emissions.

  • @TheHorsebox2
    @TheHorsebox2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Tony Bastible was a producers dream. A true professional. Chances are that Merc is still running, having clocked half a million miles.

  • @robertmarsh3588
    @robertmarsh3588 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Short but to the point. What a legacy Tony Bastable left us. I've watched many of his videos and most of his observations are pretty much spot on - and rarely lose their relevance with the passing years, witness the comment about lower diesel fuel taxation " until it becomes too popular..."

  • @mattw8332
    @mattw8332 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Citroen CX is a gorgeous piece of automotive design imo. I'd be all over one in a heartbeat.

  • @matnrach
    @matnrach 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Tony was spot on with the cost of Diesel fuel

    • @davidhunt6463
      @davidhunt6463 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Indeed, a very astute observation. He was spot on.

    • @alexanderstefanov6474
      @alexanderstefanov6474 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Still cheaper in.most of Europe though

    • @19jacobob93
      @19jacobob93 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's a crazy amount of accurate predictions in these episodes haha

  • @huss1205
    @huss1205 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The motor on that Merc was legendary, it simply lasts forever...

    • @tyraela115
      @tyraela115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So does the Citroëns

    • @wjekat
      @wjekat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tyraela115 unfortunately the body rusts, so there aren‘t any examples on the road. Plenty of Mercs around

    • @tyraela115
      @tyraela115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wjekat Oh and Mercs don`t rust. Yeah right.
      Where I come from there are no Mercs older than cca. 10 to 15 years. One exception (almost a neighbour) has a C-class around 20 years old. And another from time to time I see E-class I think arond 25 years old. But that`s it.
      There are far more Citroëns here on the roads older than say 25-30 or even more than there are Mercs.
      I`m not saying that older (say 35 or more) Citroëns don`t rust. I`m saying it`s not as bad as you think. + there are other factors that play a huge part in longevity of any car than just rustproofing.
      th-cam.com/video/LMh1AlIbbs4/w-d-xo.html

  • @gaborcsuzdi7006
    @gaborcsuzdi7006 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The irony of ironies... In 1987 it was exactly a TurboDiesel version of the Citroën CX that became the first-ever diesel car to break the 200 km/h speed barrier.

    • @aaaabababa
      @aaaabababa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not quite, the 1987 CX TRD Turbo 2 only did about 195kmh, it was the fastest Diesel for a year untill mercedes came out with the w124 300D Turbo, wich had about 27hp, 9nm, 0.5l and 2 Cylinders more than the CX, had about the same 0-100 time and did about 202kmh.

    • @mantabond
      @mantabond 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aaaabababa Bah.

    • @aaaabababa
      @aaaabababa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mantabond what?

    • @mantabond
      @mantabond 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aaaabababa Bah: how a bourgeois would say 'damn'.

    • @MG-qi6zq
      @MG-qi6zq 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your just jealous cause the first one was not a british rubbish.

  • @1984318i
    @1984318i 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I used to work for Mercedes-Benz and the W123 and the W124's were the best cars MB ever built, without a doubt. The worst would be the W163, the first generation ML. Anything pre-1995 from MB were great to excellent cars.

    • @cessealbeach
      @cessealbeach 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My Dad owned the W124 Wagon! 1995 -He put over 380K Miles! Built Like a Tank..So many memories

    • @torgeirbrandsnes1916
      @torgeirbrandsnes1916 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My father had a W126 500SEL 1984. Man was it nice to drive. The MB and BMW had crappy front seats.

    • @fb3824
      @fb3824 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Owning both a w124 and 2002 w163 ml270 , I am very impressed with both of them. Perhaps the early w163 were funky,?? but I think overall it is underrated.

    • @damiencrowley5546
      @damiencrowley5546 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about the w116s?

    • @mamba-rd3wp
      @mamba-rd3wp 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wishd id had soma day 300d and 240d

  • @valicourt
    @valicourt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    And in 2018 one can still see these 300d (and petrol) cars driving around. What a classic.

  • @Paintheshed
    @Paintheshed 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    very nice, I'd take the CX without hesitation! I hated the way he put the CX handbrake on!

  • @87tubechrisd
    @87tubechrisd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The Merc, in particular, is lovely, but £7,600 in 1976 is the equivalent of £55-60k today!
    Interestingly the fuel costs he mentions are fairly similar to today's - 79p/gal is somewhere around £1.20 to £1.40 per litre in today's money, depending on what inflation measure you use.

    • @slideways8022
      @slideways8022 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wasn’t that due to the oil crisis?

  • @lmn28021992
    @lmn28021992 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Mercedes were well ahead of the game back then

    • @paulanderson79
      @paulanderson79 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *was ;)

    • @lindaoffenbach
      @lindaoffenbach 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Plural entity... therefore *were in British English :;@@paulanderson79
      S.a. the Police were ahead... The BCC have, or were... etc.

    • @phil955i
      @phil955i 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@paulanderson79 *were!

    • @damian-795
      @damian-795 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They always are :-)

    • @tyraela115
      @tyraela115 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jake Haynes ..."Renault based shit "...you say.
      www.reliabilityindex.com/news/52/States%20of%20Repair%20%e2%80%93%20Japanese%20and%20French%20brands%20top%20international%20league%20table%20of%20car%20reliability

  • @tinniswood2577
    @tinniswood2577 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Proper door closing.

  • @g00dfeeling
    @g00dfeeling 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mercedes-Benz is heavily using Renault diesel (and petrol) engines in last couple of years. That CX is a legendary vehicle.

  • @rjft7003
    @rjft7003 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Those 5 cylinder Mercedes had a quite nice sound when accelerating though still sluggish comparing to the next generation turbo-diesels. 200 D and 240D were very popular as taxi and many of them reached the mark of 1 million km.

    • @porscha901
      @porscha901 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Mercedes Benz sold over a million w123

    • @marshalllucky
      @marshalllucky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they were one of the first multi fuel cars, they would run on petrol or diesel no problem :-)

    • @wjekat
      @wjekat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marshalllucky or leftover chips frying oil

    • @marshalllucky
      @marshalllucky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wjekat or kentuck fired chicken fat for real power :-O

  • @GaryJohnWalker1
    @GaryJohnWalker1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The CX and W123 in one short clip - rich content indeed. And the latter still the true classic MB look imo.

  • @rabit818
    @rabit818 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I still see those 300D running around town. Built like tanks. Unlike the newer cookie cutter lot from MB like the new CLS Coupe which is problematic

    • @weedmastersr
      @weedmastersr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They're all problematic these days. A family friend bought a new C-Class and it's been in the shop a lot.

    • @BogattheMoon
      @BogattheMoon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I live stateside, have a '85 300D, around 235,000 on the clock, straight exhauat, and the turbo turned up just a bit. She's very happy at 80-90 mph all say long and still returns outstanding fuel economy. You just can't kill them.

  • @paulrandomview
    @paulrandomview 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a super video - a glimpse into the recent past. Thanks for posting.

  • @k.j.g.9601
    @k.j.g.9601 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m officially addicted to these clips, and I’m not even British. I recently bought a rust free W123 300D Turbo. That engine is bullet proof. The biggest challanege with it is the HVAC system

  • @99ron30
    @99ron30 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That Citroën is very nice, I happen to like big estate cars that look like hearses. They are so practical, so what if it is slow, in the real world it doesn't matter as long as it can do motorway speeds of 70.
    Me and my family have had a Turbo Diesel mk1 Punto, Skoda Fabia 1.9sdi, a 1990 Renault Trafic with the superb Sofim 8140 diesel, and currently a Land Rover defender 300tdi and I drive a 2004 Kia Sorento 2.5 crdi.
    Diesels should of been the future, if Bio Diesel was properly invested in and researched we could of all had green sustainable long life cars. And it would of provided massive employment in poor rural countries.
    Much better than using precious earth element minerals for batteries which are mined by poor kids and poor people in appaling conditions.
    These batteries have a finite life and then have to be replaced and dumped with dangerous chemicals leaking out. And the electricity used to charge them is not necessarily produced in a green way.

  • @bobcomment8589
    @bobcomment8589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have had 2 CX . CX diesel and CX turbo2 diesel.

  • @Smithy67
    @Smithy67 5 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    I wonder if anyone ordered the Citroen in black and wondered why people were always looking for a coffin inside?

    • @2sk21
      @2sk21 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed - was just going to comment that it looks like a hearse!

    • @charitycharity3316
      @charitycharity3316 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      In france they were white for ambulances and yellow for high speed parcel vehicles too

    • @mattbod
      @mattbod 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

    • @syxepop
      @syxepop 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Charity Charity, a "high speed parcel vehicle"? With that kind of low output on its engine? Well, compared to larger trucks maybe, but I don't think that NA I4 diesel can do more than 100kph (almost 60 mph) if at that. It seems there wasn't a purpose-built vehicle that could do a proper stable ambulance at higher speeds Back then...

    • @theskig
      @theskig 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The father of a friend of mine had it. Quite scary :) Since I knew him he had 3 CX station wagon and an XM 3.0 V6 station wagon, he was a fan of those boxy Citroens.

  • @tommycat1313
    @tommycat1313 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've owned two of the 300D models and they were wonderful, if only a bit vulnerable to rust. The engine is an absolute masterpiece. Just don't chose it as a getaway car for a bank job.

  • @jannevaatainen
    @jannevaatainen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    70's Mercedes-Benz were some classic (and classy!) cars!

    • @nobbynobbynoob
      @nobbynobbynoob 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, this is what my Mum should've bought (used of course), not a brand new mini Metro which probably cost more. But she had developed an irrational aversion to used cars due to having been ripped off when my Dad bought a lemon of a used Audi 80 from a work colleague.

    • @tyraela115
      @tyraela115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So were Citroëns!

  • @Foxbat1155
    @Foxbat1155 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Proper journalism

  • @Avrelivs_Gold
    @Avrelivs_Gold 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos are so nice.

  • @rorycampbell7360
    @rorycampbell7360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    " Wouldn't guess it was diesel. "
    Not until you got stuck behind it, as it bleached thick black smoke and lung clogging fumes.
    A fine balanced review. We could do with a return to this style.

  • @sdry1688
    @sdry1688 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The Mercedes 300D was £7600, expensive considering the XJ6 4.2 was a £1000 cheaper. The new Rover SD1 (petrol ) was only £4750

    • @mipmipmipmipmip
      @mipmipmipmipmip 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      then again, those Mercedes cars still drive around. (I'm not implying every Mercedes is inherently quality, seeing US-built and Renault-built stuff of today)

    • @MaximilianvonPinneberg
      @MaximilianvonPinneberg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Renault don't build Mercedes. @@mipmipmipmipmip

    • @mipmipmipmipmip
      @mipmipmipmipmip 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MaximilianvonPinneberg en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_Citan

    • @MiG21aholic
      @MiG21aholic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My 1977 300D still takes me to work and home every day with over 500,000km....

    • @MaximilianvonPinneberg
      @MaximilianvonPinneberg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's a commercial van that is also sold under different brands. there is no car in teh Mercedes range built by Renault. vauxhall also build renaults then in your logic. @@mipmipmipmipmip

  • @edmondocerza4292
    @edmondocerza4292 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man these cars must have looked like something from space considering British designs at the time. Austin allegro, princess, marina etc

  • @krisraps
    @krisraps 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First Car I Ever Drove Was That W123 Merc, It Was Soo Brilliant To Drive, It Was Automatic Ofcorse, But Still, So Much Fun It Was

  • @fedemartos7557
    @fedemartos7557 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pre Top Gear era 😎

  • @S7EVE_P
    @S7EVE_P 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We have nothing like this on our screens now. I think it was Wagner who criticised the trend of entertainment over art and today it's entertainment over intelligent straightforward informative programmes. Also Thames TV, I wish you would upload some full programmes for us, maybe at Christmas as a special treat??!!

  • @bunter6
    @bunter6 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh how right Tony was, as soon as decent turbo diesels started to appear in the 90's the sales rocketed and then over time derv ended up being noticeably more expensive than unleaded for quite some time..

  • @thomasalbrecht5914
    @thomasalbrecht5914 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The five cylinder engine from Mercedes was actually a reaction to the Citroën engine giving a higher output and better top speed than the four cylinder Mercedes. The Ricardo type combustion chamber in the Citroën diesel allowed for higher revs, and the better aerodynamics of the CX meant that the CX was well quicker than the Mercs. So Mercedes, at the proposal of one Ferdinand Piëch whom they consulted (he had temporarily left Porsche), added a cylinder. The tendency of five cylinders to resonate meant that ample equilibration was needed, which also treated the diesel noise somewhat.
    Looking at the performances, the Merc used an engine with about 30% more capacity to get a top speed that was a few kph higher than the Citroën and gave less mpg. Apart from the difference in roadholding and suspension and the asking price. Game, set and match for the CX - but you wouldn't know it from this clip...

    • @tellog3406
      @tellog3406 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah. Cx a rather problematic car. History has not been kind to them. Disappeared from Europe in mid 90's. W123 all in Africa now, working as taxis on unpaved roads.

    • @CreRay
      @CreRay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The 300D engine actually debuted in its predecessor, the 240D 3.0 in 1974, the same year the CX was launched, and a year before the CX diesel launched in 1975. So the CX diesel engine couldn’t have influenced Mercedes in developing the OM617 engine. Also, the CX 2200 diesel has about the same performance as the 240D engine -not the 300D.

  • @BarryAllenMagic
    @BarryAllenMagic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing that given the sheer engineering brilliance; coupled with the superb handling of the Mercedes-Benz W123 Series; the presenter seemed more interested in the first aid kit and warning triangle!

    • @tyraela115
      @tyraela115 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You make it sound as if the Cx was just rubbish. Ofcourse it wasn`t.
      CX was to some degree still like a space ship on wheels. Not just design wise but also technology wise. It was also European Car of the Year 1975 (www.caroftheyear.org/winners/1975/index.php).
      Also: th-cam.com/video/LMh1AlIbbs4/w-d-xo.html

  • @suzukirizla11
    @suzukirizla11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's incredible how I understand better this "old" english than the one that is spoken nowadays. If I try to see a british car review or a general channel I really don't understand anything. What happened in 40 years?

    • @Tourist1967
      @Tourist1967 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @peter kincaid He may have a point - even independent TV followed the BBC-favoured RP for many years. Took a while for that to change. I'd imagine most EFL students learn something closer to RP.

  • @stepha5926
    @stepha5926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish he provided the cost of the Citroen and the power output of the Mercedes, for comparison. He mentioned the cost of the Mercedes and power of the Citroen.

  • @wilfamos7314
    @wilfamos7314 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! Beautiful motors.

  • @charitycharity3316
    @charitycharity3316 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If I had a time machine, Jesus this are lovely cars today the euro boxes all the same that CX to die for and 70p a gallon, red is not even that a litre now

    • @fordessexv6
      @fordessexv6 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      70p in 1976 equates to about £5.59 in todays money so the difference isn't much.

  • @pawelkot5824
    @pawelkot5824 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 300D, the best diesel engine ever made. These mercs could go 1m miles round the clock and still drive like new...but unlike what that guy says, idling as loud as the rest on the diesels of that era, like a tractor basically...

  • @grumpylimey4539
    @grumpylimey4539 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    G-BALM was deregistered in 92 and exported to the US, one year later it was re-exported to Ireland. Unfortunately they don't have a searchable database, so trace lost. Built 1972. I might be obsessed with planes.

    • @Tourist1967
      @Tourist1967 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everybody needs a hobby.

  • @jasoncarpp7742
    @jasoncarpp7742 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favourite cars in this video are the Citroen CX Diesel and the Mercedes-Benz W123 300D.

  • @pit_stop77
    @pit_stop77 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tony was so right, diesel was cheaper until it got too popular. Bless him 👍

  • @esssexboy
    @esssexboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely guy Tony. Taken from us far too soon RiP mate

  • @stevenlawrie7819
    @stevenlawrie7819 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The CX came in an 8 seat version - early mpv

    • @syxepop
      @syxepop 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Figure it had to have a 3rd row option just like the Peugeot 504 / 505 (maybe the CX went to the same platform later on)...

    • @syxepop
      @syxepop 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      CRS1964, I would think that ultimately the Peugeot and Citroen, being on the same company ultimately (probably by the '90s) would get the CX and 504 descendants on the same FWD platform as Peugeot got rid of most of its' RWD cars. Both estates / wagons most likely had the same slot in their brands hierarchy.

    • @Tourist1967
      @Tourist1967 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@syxepop Familiale designation - same as its predecessor the DS.

  • @fatwalletboy2
    @fatwalletboy2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing difference in sound of the Merc compared to the Citroen. Didnt think the difference would be so big.

  • @anastasiospappas3020
    @anastasiospappas3020 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's not quite fair... The CX is the 2200 D model and the Mercedes is the 300D. They should have compared it with the 220D Mercedes.

  • @jackdaw339
    @jackdaw339 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Typicial, the sound of how the doors and boot open and close is exactly like my W201.

  • @incyphe
    @incyphe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7600 pounds was A LOT of money in 76... Average house was 12,700 pounds and average salary 3600 pounds.

  • @garbage854
    @garbage854 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool :)

  • @syxepop
    @syxepop 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    WOW! Another early appearance I got (over 0400 locally on a Sunday morning with < 100 views). Wonder if this CX Estate was used as a HEARSE in UK or EU since its' lines look suited for that duty and it certainly doesn't require a lot of power output from that large I4 NA Diesel. Unlike the I5-powered 300D, which probably became the de facto taxi cab in Germany.

    • @mipmipmipmipmip
      @mipmipmipmipmip 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it certainly would make for a most comfortable last ride

    • @mipmipmipmipmip
      @mipmipmipmipmip 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      some hearses and ambulances here:
      www.citroenet.org.uk/passenger-cars/psa/cx/cx-03.html

    • @garbage854
      @garbage854 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cool Car's :)
      @@mipmipmipmipmip

    • @RoadCone411
      @RoadCone411 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Citroen’s were fairly popular back in the day, less so as the estate but you would see them. As French cars, they were suitably strange and eccentric in both looks and function.

    • @syxepop
      @syxepop 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      mipmipmipmipmip, yes! I've figured out that the HUMONGOUS rear cargo area of that CX Estate lent itself well as both a HEARSE and an AMBULANCE. The only other large French estate / wagon I've seen "in the flesh" on the road was the later Peugeot 504 / 505, a favorite of sub-Saharan African transportation, and they also had large cargo areas (they even had a 3rd full row of seats in the back and even a little cargo room left with all seats in use).

  • @rickydoolous5356
    @rickydoolous5356 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So that's around 15p per litre, how times change.

  • @marshalllucky
    @marshalllucky 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I dont think this thames car show will catch on , it feels a bit dated and they insist on testing ancient cars, how about the modern stuff ?

    • @martinparker6536
      @martinparker6536 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      its old footage from late 70's early 80's tv show you dillweed

    • @marshalllucky
      @marshalllucky 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thames published Nov `18 , not much of a rival for the grand tour , you cannot even buy these old cars anymore :-(

    • @martinparker6536
      @martinparker6536 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marshalllucky when it was published on here doesnt mean it was made then.........god......
      theres loads of old footage on here.......thats wat makes it so good

    • @martinparker6536
      @martinparker6536 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      anyway your just trolling coz your channel has Saville n sex pistols on it.............you know damn well its old shit

    • @kgbeezr75
      @kgbeezr75 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It really sucks the fun out of it when you have to explain levity, doesn't it? Good stuff.

  • @manos3790
    @manos3790 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cheaper one suspects, until it becomes more popular. That was a very accurate prediction.

  • @maxnmilly
    @maxnmilly 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    both of these car would be worth a fortune today

    • @Tourist1967
      @Tourist1967 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A quick look at classic car sites would suggest they're both about the same - a decent one about the GBP10k to GBP12k mark. There are more MBs for sale - not surprising, considering many more of them were sold in the UK, and prices for an outstanding low mileage one go up to around the GBP30k mark.

  • @brendangarvin7787
    @brendangarvin7787 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In an alternate universe, the people at Rover said, "Holy smokes we need to make the SD1 as good as, if not better than that!"

  • @christinajoachim386
    @christinajoachim386 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Citroën CX is with Distance the superior Car in Compare with all Cars in his time. ❤

  • @payamyazdi7672
    @payamyazdi7672 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    French know how to make diesel engine. I used to have A 1979 Peugeot 504 GLD with over 400 K miles on original engine.

    • @mattconnelly3867
      @mattconnelly3867 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes I own a Citroen Picasso. Can't fault the HDI engine. Pity about the rubbish electronics on all French cars. My dashboard indications and warning lights are all over the place. After having it all checked out the mechanic said don't worry they are all like that.

    • @shitarse100
      @shitarse100 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They all know how to make them :D

    • @Chriswales
      @Chriswales 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I had 1998 Peugeot 306 with the XUD9 engine. Lovely car and drove well until it threw a connecting rod on the motorway. Was only 4 years old, will never own another french car.

    • @Chriswales
      @Chriswales 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PaddyWV funny enough I replaced my 306 with a TDI Seat Leon which is the same as the Skoda underneath. Still got the car, now that's a well built engine & car - VAG cars from back then are great.

    • @gaborcsuzdi7006
      @gaborcsuzdi7006 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mattconnelly3867 The funny thing is that electronics came from BOSCH (Germany) ...

  • @NoosaHeads
    @NoosaHeads 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still looks a clean and timeless design (this message written 2020).

  • @firenza74
    @firenza74 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Have,nt heard the word derv for many a year.

    • @johnathanryan2117
      @johnathanryan2117 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Used to work in a mill where the word DERV was painted on the side of the tank where forklift trucks filled up. Left 20 years ago and not heard it since either!

    • @tjfSIM
      @tjfSIM 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@aspirer7268 Well thank goodness you were here to clear that up for everyone, I don't know how we would have managed otherwise. "You're" a true hero.

    • @RWL2012
      @RWL2012 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw it on the wall of the mocked up Asda on Series 1 of Dale's Supermarket Sweep (1993) on Challenge in 2012 :-P We sell petrol and DERV!

    • @tjfSIM
      @tjfSIM 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@aspirer7268 Aaah dear, you're too sharp for me, I won't try to keep up :) But now, be honest, you had to google 'DERV' didn't you?

    • @tjfSIM
      @tjfSIM 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aspirer7268 Well, fair play sir - you take the "knowing what DERV means" and the "Being nearly 60" award this time! :)

  • @paulhunter123
    @paulhunter123 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    how comes we had to watch so much top gear shit when this was on back in the day and i never saw it. i need in my life now a mercedes benz

  • @juliestonelake7606
    @juliestonelake7606 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Citroen reminds me of the ghost busters car

  • @GaryJohnWalker1
    @GaryJohnWalker1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both lovely machines actually - that cx justy needing a turbo to make it useable. But the Merc - lovely and actually recognisably an MB without seeing the grille. Nice test of a similar generation (79) S class just up on autogefuhl channel here in late aug 2020.

    • @tyraela115
      @tyraela115 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      CX was to some degree still like a space ship on wheels. Not just design wise but also technology wise. It was also European Car of the Year 1975 (www.caroftheyear.org/winners/1975/index.php).
      Also: th-cam.com/video/LMh1AlIbbs4/w-d-xo.html

  • @djh29971
    @djh29971 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    'Adequate Acceleration'. I don't think Bastable would have got a job in a car showroom - far too honest!

  • @mattbod
    @mattbod 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Diesel back then, especially on the continent was dirt cheap. The French especially were used to cheap Diesel which is why for many years they made the best engines and are now demonstrating on the streets now it is taxed highly. You had to change the oil more often though back then like every 3/4 k.

  • @stuartwilkie4887
    @stuartwilkie4887 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What annoys me is they rarely gave the price of both cars. Of course most people would rather have the Mercedes. But How many people had an extra 3,500 pounds in their back pocket. The other thing is, what was the mpg of the Mercedes? Nice one Thames, give half the data. They were two very different cars for two very different customers.

  • @eifionjones559
    @eifionjones559 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    great car the 300d, only sold mine because the kids called it dad's Bombay taxi

  • @toyotaprius79
    @toyotaprius79 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Diesel was indeed the future - - 50 years ago....

  • @Land_Cruiser_40
    @Land_Cruiser_40 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    A Rover SD1 was almost half the price of that 300D. The Merc would last 300.000 miles while the Rover struggled to get 100.000 miles though.
    Cheers

  • @richardbrown1189
    @richardbrown1189 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's Mr. Khan's car from Citizen Khan!

  • @AndreiTupolev
    @AndreiTupolev 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I could've sworn that was Alan Partridge.

  • @jasongomez5344
    @jasongomez5344 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    66 bhp? My first car had more than that and it was very lightweight (Fiat Uno 70S 1.3L). I love the CX saloon though (pre-facelift).

    • @tyraela115
      @tyraela115 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      CX was to some degree still like it`s predecessor a space ship on wheels. Not just design wise but also technology wise. It was also European Car of the Year 1975 (www.caroftheyear.org/winners/1975/index.php).
      Also: th-cam.com/video/LMh1AlIbbs4/w-d-xo.html

    • @jasongomez5344
      @jasongomez5344 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tyraela115 Yeah, I'm actually a big CX fan. I know the engines weren't great but 66 bhp on this estate is abysmal.

  • @phil955i
    @phil955i 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do remember as far back to petrol being 75p a gallon & derv being cheaper, but how right he was about the cost of diesel rising to above that of petrol as diesel cars became more popular. Then in the 90s the government pushed diesels as being eco-friendly, now they're a social pariah. Tossers. It wasn't until the early 90s that diesel started to catch up with petrol performance. I had the pleasure of owning an early 2000s Merc E320CDI that had their 3.2 litre straight-6 turbodiesel, that power plant had more torque than their 5 litre V8 at the time.

  • @theymusthatetesla3186
    @theymusthatetesla3186 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Cheaper....until it becomes TOO popular!
    Ahead of his time!

    • @nobbynobbynoob
      @nobbynobbynoob 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Healthy cynicism has probably existed since the dawn of civilization, and thankfully it never died. :)

  • @hyena-chase2176
    @hyena-chase2176 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    God I miss the 70sss

  • @felix_five
    @felix_five 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    He almost seemed happy in this video

  • @FictionalName
    @FictionalName 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy shit I can't believe The Beatles reviewed diesel cars. Crazy world

  • @ronmccullock1407
    @ronmccullock1407 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just over 70p a gallon Wow!

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      exaclty what i was thinking amigo!! WOW!

    • @z00h
      @z00h 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You boys never heard of inflation then? If you adjust 70p for inflation, it roughly works out as 4.79gbp. Now THAT was a fucking rip off.

  • @esssexboy
    @esssexboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a Granada mk2 2.1 diesel... Absolutely gutless

  • @truthseeker8483
    @truthseeker8483 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mercedes is superior because it has a warning triangle, quiet engine and seat belts that move with the seat. :D A shame about its suspension steering brakes, interior space and comfort in comparison to the Citroen....

    • @tyraela115
      @tyraela115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed.
      th-cam.com/video/LMh1AlIbbs4/w-d-xo.html

    • @truthseeker8483
      @truthseeker8483 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tyraela115 CX Turbo would be a great car to own..all cars should have sophisticated suspension in 2020...not hard to do with modern tech

    • @tyraela115
      @tyraela115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@truthseeker8483 Well one of my uncles has C5 Tourer 2.0 Hdi (163 BHP) 2012. He boughted it 2-3 years ago it had 166 000 KM. now it has over 200 000 (not sure about how much over 200). Apart from regular service (Brakes, oil etc.). Works like a charm.
      th-cam.com/video/nt07ma2_Y_0/w-d-xo.html
      th-cam.com/video/4BW-VrdlD9U/w-d-xo.html
      th-cam.com/video/__iAG4CJ0Hc/w-d-xo.html

    • @truthseeker8483
      @truthseeker8483 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tyraela115 Thankyou for the youtube videos I enjoyed them. I drove DS for over 30 years and found them to be the most stable car ever and the most comfortable...they are reliable too if looked after well. MY modern car bumps over every bump...yuck...

  • @TheAllMightyGodofCod
    @TheAllMightyGodofCod 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I miss the days when a Mercedes diesel was synonym with less noise than the competition. Nowadays the 220cdi sounds rougher and noisier than any of its competitors.

  • @RF_Burns
    @RF_Burns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Back when Merc used to make fantastic cars.

  • @davidking6617
    @davidking6617 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    90mph is entirely possible 😂

    • @mikanfarmer
      @mikanfarmer 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Back in the 80's I had a petrol Citroen CX GTI, with the revolving speedo and rev counter, (bought for £1,000) ....when cruising along at 90 mph it would kick you in the back if you put your foot down. I got rid of it because of the rust, and the thought that it would kill me one day, ..........miss those times. But that's life I guess.

    • @video99couk
      @video99couk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You would hope so really. Top rated speed of a 1970 Hillman Avenger 1500 was 96mph, that was a much smaller and cheaper car.

  • @lewis72
    @lewis72 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Benz W123 300D had a whopping 79bhp.

  • @TheGalacticEmperorOfLabels
    @TheGalacticEmperorOfLabels 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    66 BHp! I had a Fiesta with 79 and it was slow.

  • @grndiesel
    @grndiesel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    All that talking up of the Mercedes and he didn't even take it for a drive. Those were, and remain superbly engineered machines. Even in this century, many still survive and are holding their own.

  • @paulanderson79
    @paulanderson79 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    71 pence a gallon!!! I remember late 1980's when a gallon around £1.50. I'm now paying £1.46 per LITRE for diesel.

    • @Witheredgoogie
      @Witheredgoogie 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The oil companies changed the pumps from gallons to litres to stop people skidding off the road (after seeing the latest prices) every time they passed a petrol station...LOL

  • @herrfister1477
    @herrfister1477 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Mercedes presented in veryyellow

  • @maanmallak8953
    @maanmallak8953 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    أيام راحت و لن ترجع

  • @martinparker6536
    @martinparker6536 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i thought the 5 cyl Mercs where all 2500cc ? 3000cc 6 cyl ?
    also i'm sure Citroen never made a 2.2 diesel only later in HDi ? its a 2500cc Diesel and then they turbo'd the same engine ?

    • @phil955i
      @phil955i 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No that was later on. The earlier 2400cc diesels were 4-pot & the 3 litre ones 5-pot. Later on the 3 litre & 3.2 litre of the 90s & early 2000s were straight sixes as you say.

    • @mattbod
      @mattbod 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah in the W123 the 3.0 was a 5 pot it was the W124 where it was a 6. I think he is wrong on the Citroen engine size but he seemed to be just a presenter and not an expert.

    • @jybe75013
      @jybe75013 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No the very first CX Diesel was a 2175 cc 66HP 'CX 2200D' and lasted only 2 years derived from the 2175 petrol engine, 90.5bore x85mm stroke, then appeared the 2500 cc (93x92) CX 2500 in 1978 75 HP

    • @martinparker6536
      @martinparker6536 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jybe75013 ok....didnt know that, always thought the 2.2 was a petrol

    • @martinparker6536
      @martinparker6536 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i had a 1988 merc and i'm sure it said 250d or something on the boot lid........it was defo a 5 cyl ?

  • @anthonyperkins7556
    @anthonyperkins7556 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Mercedes 5 cylinder diesel was quieter, smoother, and less gruffer than the underpowered 66bhp diesel Citroën CX.
    I'd have the Mercedes diesel anyday.

  • @skipraida5497
    @skipraida5497 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    71/74 pence a gallon,ah the days!

  • @eddiejones.redvees
    @eddiejones.redvees 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    71 pence a gallon for diesel now at £1.55 a litre or 1.75 pints

  • @stevel9914
    @stevel9914 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that's Mr Khan's car .. the yellow Mercedes

  • @68404
    @68404 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those old Mercedes 5 cylinders were good for a million kilometres plus

  • @1MrBryn
    @1MrBryn 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel at least 30% of Alan Partridge is based on Tony.