The knowledge Esco dropped could easily apply to other tech roles besides Software Engineering. Thank you both so much for sharing this much needed information.
Had the privilege of seeing and hanging out with Esco years ago. He is simply an amazing person. Make no mistake... he lives, breathes, and eats everything programming. When I started seeing these videos about him, I was not one bit surprised. The amount of passion he had while learning and creating things and figuring out solutions to his problems on his own and watching the excitement he had about it was an experience in itself and oddly something I haven't forgot about him. Esco you deserved all of this. Really really happy for you. All I can say is WOW and couldn't have happened to a better person. This is all you. Way to go!
As a Uber driver and Lyft driver of a conversation about the software behind the crash in the software code is super interesting and this whole talk has been one of the best interviews and educational pieces on the internet and thank you to both of you guys very very much... I look forward to learning more from both of you guys!!!
This is one of you best TH-cam videos, it comes with a lot of information ℹ️, and it’s motivating, more better than Esco previous interview on your TH-cam .
Thanks for stopping by! Remember Esco's journey is unique it took 10 years and he works for a top tech company in a HCOL. This video is meant to inspire you on your path and show what is possible. Take what you find useful from the video but remember your journey will be different. Don't forget to check out Esco's group! -Esco LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/escoo/ - Join Esco's Black SWE Facebook group for help with interview prep: m.facebook.com/groups/algorythm? -Read Esco's Study Tips for how to land a job at FAANG: bit.ly/3jXNbVS
I have been going through so much working seven days a week to provide for my family at 25 years old. I’m in school for software development but this guy has lifted me from a depression from being so discouraged and doubtful about making it into the industry. This level of information is never really released by other engineers
I believe in you brother! F the noise/haters/negativity, you can do this! You will find your winning angle. If the entire world is against you and your mind is convincing you too, just know, Mr. J is rooting you on ;)
you got a family at 25? btw im on the same boat as you except i dont have too many responbilities, i am just starting out on software development and have been procrastinating everything.
@@rexes92 yeah brother I do I actually got married at 23 and moved to Indiana from California I just waited to long to get my degree and when life emergencies hit and I went under like 25k it forced me to work from a 55-60 hour work week to 70-80 hour work week Most jobs without a degree pay 15 to 18 an hour where I’m at. I refuse to take any job right now currently that’s not a SE position because I’m working too hard to get this I can’t let another job for a few more bucks take me away from my goal of getting a job here Don’t procrastinate brother please that’s actually what is hurting me the most that I didn’t have any degree by 22 years or younger! I’ve been offered jobs in the past that would have paid 50-65k starting and changed my life. But I’m glad I’m under pressure it broke me but I’m not going to look at life the same ever again I’m way more durable
Man, it means so much to me to see a guy with hair and my skin tone. It means a lot that your channel exists as well but as a man struggling with how to "fit in" without conforming he has really helped me. I look forward to watching everything on your channel.
REALLY WANT TO STRESS, THIS IS NOT AN ENTRY LEVEL SALARY, everyone lol if it’s to good to be true it is, he sounds like he has probably 5-10 years of experience. It is so improbable that a person with no experience will have 200k base with 150k stock option and 100k bonus. That is a SENIOR level job. Entry level is around 80k. Which is still really good. Also FAANG and Fintech companies are extremely difficult to get into. Don’t forget the Banks, Insurance companies and other corporations.
even then, depends if you get a break with one of the big recognized companies. otherwise you can be stuck for years on very average salaries and working unpaid crunch time. social media does not portray the reality of the software dev market, they only show the successes (survivorship bias)
@@ao4514 thanks for the kind words! I did end up getting a few offers, but I had to learn a lot of these lessons the hard way haha. Definitely agree, it's all a learning process 🙏
The UBER bug story was relatable. I know that feeling when you let a bug slip through😂 You feel like you let the team down. BUT that is when you know good management. Management that knows even the best developers can make mistakes.
Awesome video, Just loved the way the talk was conducted and it's always awesome to learn so much about company processes and also from more experienced developers. Great And thats a quote that i'm sure gonna take for life "Whenever an issue happens don't try to blame a person but try to blame the process. "work you both. 👏
These salaries are only a reality in the USA. No other counties pay SEs as well as America does. If you are already in the USA, then you need to job hunt. 80k for a senior engineer here is low. If you are not in the USA, then idk what to tell you. It is what it is.
@@a-roh5039 im in usa Florida you know Southern states they pay lower wages i start seeing over 110k salaries in Florida lately so ill start looking for another job soon i worth more than 80k like you said its not a senior salary
As Esco mentioned, industry, company, and geography as well as an individual’s development and negotiation skills will impact final compensation packages. Believing this is possible is hardly a trap. We can see it is a reality, now just execute the plan for yourself.
@@taishamikell1438 there are only few big tech can afford $200k+ for average Eng on speciality projects where supply is low and demand is unique. Most Eng with maintenance or continual improvement features gets like $120-$140k in SF Bay Area, in Texas 10% lower, adjusted for cost of living in different regions. $80k software engineers are low level maintenance functions, those are continued to get outsourced to India, or it’s a on-prem system that only 1 dude knows how it work and keep milking it with Fortran languages back 80s.
I'm a senior eng at Airbnb as well and make 300k. So yeah you can make that. Just started as well. And like he said it is cash, plus stocks plus bonuses that brings it to total compensation of 300k.
meanwhile we got experienced devs in their 30s and 40s more and more locked out of the market by arcane leetcode style interview processes and "culture fit" assessments. it can be a brutal industry after your 20s.
I think we should take in the account, this is not the norm, most sof devs as making 75-80k starting. Please don’t think that it is normal to make half a million with no experience. EVEN GOOGLE only starts at 120k, and that’s a CLOUD DEV
indeed, also who do you think they'll decide to let go when the budget gets tight / shareholders want their profits? those who on paper are expensive. which means these guys landing their 1/2 mil salary/stock options.
@@clololown "knowing what you're worth" doesn't mean anything in a job market where those with the money decide who is hired, not you and not your experience and skills. in fact if you tell some hiring managers or directors that you "know what you're worth" as a software engineer they'll interpret that you're overvalued and too self-interested to be a good hire. (I don't think this way but I've seen it time and time again, no one cares how good we believe we are or what we're worth, those with capital decide who is hired and on what basis, not those seeking employment)
Being good at math does help a lot! But there are successful SWEs that aren't math geniuses SWE vs UI/UX honestly depends on what you are genuinely interested in doing
In my experience. Math is not needed for mainstream dev job. Just stay away from 3D graphics programming and audio programming. For the most part, web dev can be done with the most basic understanding of math. I'm talking primary school math here.
Making money, starting a business and self development can only be achieved if you consistantly work on it, it is my personal experience... if you are reading this keep in mind that you cannot become successful in a week.===
What do you mean by "talented and skilled"? It's not about being the smartest person in the room, it's about working hard. If you are wiling to hustle and put the work in, then yes. It isn't easy. But it's possible.
@@a-roh5039 lol. When I think of a talented/skilled person, I’m assuming they worked hard to be that way. I just wanted to know if everyone in tech is under 30. That’s all. Thanks
Best Interview of a Software Engineer that I've ever watched on TH-cam 👏💞 He really learnt beyond what is taught in the University. I'm a computer science student about starting my third year in the university but I do have 5 years of experience in software engineering (having Bsc is almost a must in Nigeria 😂 that's why I went for it). Thanks so much Bukola. Thanks so much Esco.
I love his story. I’m new to the industry, currently working as a QA. Looking to transition to an SE in the future. Looking for the best route of development for myself. His story is great inspiration for me.
this was an excellent interview, i'm not a software engineer but lots of big picture career advice in general. esco sounds like he really deserves his success, great stuff!
I hope that you guys work together and do another video again because you guys have great chemistry what's your professional questions and backgrounds and this format is amazing I feel like we can learn so much more from Esco and anybody that you talk to in the similar format. Hopefully we can see the same people again so that we can keep learning from that same person and go deeper because there's so much more to learn and I appreciate you guys for your time thank you.
Excellent follow up interview - I am not in tech but some of the general comments about making your intentions for promotion known so you are thought of for system wide projects resonates for me - I am a frontline health worker interested in leadership - I had to voice that ambition instead of assuming the work I was doing as frontline staff would be noticed - I so appreciate this series that speaks to realities of career options and voicing ones ambition 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽❤❤
“When mistakes happen, don’t blame the person, blame the process. Fix the process so it never happens to anyone ever again”
True
this is the exact thing my manager tells the new hires. always find what's wrong with the process rather than blaming the individual.
you got to blame the person if he's slacking
Golden!
The knowledge Esco dropped could easily apply to other tech roles besides Software Engineering. Thank you both so much for sharing this much needed information.
Very true! Thanks for commenting!
When i see successful brother i just smile 🌻
Amen 🔥
Had the privilege of seeing and hanging out with Esco years ago. He is simply an amazing person. Make no mistake... he lives, breathes, and eats everything programming. When I started seeing these videos about him, I was not one bit surprised. The amount of passion he had while learning and creating things and figuring out solutions to his problems on his own and watching the excitement he had about it was an experience in itself and oddly something I haven't forgot about him. Esco you deserved all of this. Really really happy for you. All I can say is WOW and couldn't have happened to a better person. This is all you. Way to go!
my boy Esco is back its littttttt always dropping gems
I appreciate content like this Thank You Bukola
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Just curious, Is he Nigerian? 😉
As a Uber driver and Lyft driver of a conversation about the software behind the crash in the software code is super interesting and this whole talk has been one of the best interviews and educational pieces on the internet and thank you to both of you guys very very much... I look forward to learning more from both of you guys!!!
Thanks for watching! Esco and I have an AMA event today, join the Facebook group to learn more: m.facebook.com/groups/algorythm?
This is one of you best TH-cam videos, it comes with a lot of information ℹ️, and it’s motivating, more better than Esco previous interview on your TH-cam .
Thanks for stopping by! Remember Esco's journey is unique it took 10 years and he works for a top tech company in a HCOL. This video is meant to inspire you on your path and show what is possible. Take what you find useful from the video but remember your journey will be different.
Don't forget to check out Esco's group!
-Esco LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/escoo/
- Join Esco's Black SWE Facebook group for help with interview prep: m.facebook.com/groups/algorythm?
-Read Esco's Study Tips for how to land a job at FAANG: bit.ly/3jXNbVS
So smart for them to blame the process instead of the person.
Excited to start my tech career. Thank you 😊
Best of luck! Thank you for the tip!
I have been going through so much working seven days a week to provide for my family at 25 years old. I’m in school for software development but this guy has lifted me from a depression from being so discouraged and doubtful about making it into the industry. This level of information is never really released by other engineers
I believe in you brother! F the noise/haters/negativity, you can do this! You will find your winning angle. If the entire world is against you and your mind is convincing you too, just know, Mr. J is rooting you on ;)
you got a family at 25? btw im on the same boat as you except i dont have too many responbilities, i am just starting out on software development and have been procrastinating everything.
Keep pushing bro. Its a very exciting career - provided you have the passion!
@@mr.j3371 you’re so sweet thanks so much brother!!
@@rexes92 yeah brother I do I actually got married at 23 and moved to Indiana from California
I just waited to long to get my degree and when life emergencies hit and I went under like 25k it forced me to work from a 55-60 hour work week to 70-80 hour work week
Most jobs without a degree pay 15 to 18 an hour where I’m at. I refuse to take any job right now currently that’s not a SE position because I’m working too hard to get this I can’t let another job for a few more bucks take me away from my goal of getting a job here
Don’t procrastinate brother please that’s actually what is hurting me the most that I didn’t have any degree by 22 years or younger! I’ve been offered jobs in the past that would have paid 50-65k starting and changed my life. But I’m glad I’m under pressure it broke me but I’m not going to look at life the same ever again I’m way more durable
Man, it means so much to me to see a guy with hair and my skin tone. It means a lot that your channel exists as well but as a man struggling with how to "fit in" without conforming he has really helped me. I look forward to watching everything on your channel.
REALLY WANT TO STRESS, THIS IS NOT AN ENTRY LEVEL SALARY, everyone lol if it’s to good to be true it is, he sounds like he has probably 5-10 years of experience. It is so improbable that a person with no experience will have 200k base with 150k stock option and 100k bonus. That is a SENIOR level job. Entry level is around 80k. Which is still really good. Also FAANG and Fintech companies are extremely difficult to get into. Don’t forget the Banks, Insurance companies and other corporations.
even then, depends if you get a break with one of the big recognized companies. otherwise you can be stuck for years on very average salaries and working unpaid crunch time. social media does not portray the reality of the software dev market, they only show the successes (survivorship bias)
Bukola dropping a video!! Day made!!
Ayee!
All really excellent advice. I just went through this whole interview process and wish I would have watched this video before!!
Don't worry, Dustin you'll get another chance if things don't go according to plan with the first interview!
@@ao4514 thanks for the kind words! I did end up getting a few offers, but I had to learn a lot of these lessons the hard way haha. Definitely agree, it's all a learning process 🙏
Amazing content - thank you 🙏🏽
My pleasure! Thanks for leaving a comment!
Very good! Thank you Bukola and Esco
Thanks for sharing Esco's study tips Bukola!
The UBER bug story was relatable. I know that feeling when you let a bug slip through😂 You feel like you let the team down. BUT that is when you know good management. Management that knows even the best developers can make mistakes.
Love the channel. I think he gave great advice for interviewing in tech regardless of the path.
It was nice listening in. Thanks Esco &Bukola.
Very Insightful! Thank you Bukola and Esco!
True, people management is so important!
This is a great interview and he seem like a very cool person. Thanks for all the helpful insights. I wanna be him before 2023….Amen? Let’s get it !!!
6 great offers without a 30 days period! 🤯
Awesome video, Just loved the way the talk was conducted and it's always awesome to learn so much about company processes and also from more experienced developers. Great And thats a quote that i'm sure gonna take for life "Whenever an issue happens don't try to blame a person but try to blame the process. "work you both. 👏
Awesome interview 👏
Silicon Valley Pusha-T dropping gems!! ... Sorry I'll see myself out 😅
Jokes aside thanks for the knowledge!
I came to the comments specifically to see if I was the only one thinking this young brother looked like Push 😆👌🏽
@@NikNik0123 You're welcome friend :)
Very helpful and useful insight. Thanks for the content.
Loved the video, would've hoped it would be little more raw (lots of cuts in the footage) but nonetheless Esco is a huge inspiration!
This was such an awesome interview! Such great insight was provided
Im senior developer andi make only 80k not everyone can make 200k so please everyone don't fall in the trap thinking everyone can do what he is doing
These salaries are only a reality in the USA. No other counties pay SEs as well as America does. If you are already in the USA, then you need to job hunt. 80k for a senior engineer here is low. If you are not in the USA, then idk what to tell you. It is what it is.
@@a-roh5039 im in usa Florida you know Southern states they pay lower wages i start seeing over 110k salaries in Florida lately so ill start looking for another job soon i worth more than 80k like you said its not a senior salary
As Esco mentioned, industry, company, and geography as well as an individual’s development and negotiation skills will impact final compensation packages.
Believing this is possible is hardly a trap. We can see it is a reality, now just execute the plan for yourself.
@@taishamikell1438 there are only few big tech can afford $200k+ for average Eng on speciality projects where supply is low and demand is unique. Most Eng with maintenance or continual improvement features gets like $120-$140k in SF Bay Area, in Texas 10% lower, adjusted for cost of living in different regions. $80k software engineers are low level maintenance functions, those are continued to get outsourced to India, or it’s a on-prem system that only 1 dude knows how it work and keep milking it with Fortran languages back 80s.
I'm a senior eng at Airbnb as well and make 300k. So yeah you can make that. Just started as well. And like he said it is cash, plus stocks plus bonuses that brings it to total compensation of 300k.
These be getting me through
Esco The Man 🙌🏽🔥
meanwhile we got experienced devs in their 30s and 40s more and more locked out of the market by arcane leetcode style interview processes and "culture fit" assessments. it can be a brutal industry after your 20s.
learned a lot from this video.
Wow this has been the best video of real life expectations of the field. Lol I’m barely learning HTML
Thanks you guys!! for doing this interview ,I been waiting for this for a while!!!
I know there’s good info here but I cannot get past how fine this man is 🤦🏾♀️ let me come back in an hour or two 😂
lol, come back!!
OMG I thought it was just me!
lmao
Did I find this funny ?.
@@Bukola1 😂 I’m back
I think we should take in the account, this is not the norm, most sof devs as making 75-80k starting. Please don’t think that it is normal to make half a million with no experience. EVEN GOOGLE only starts at 120k, and that’s a CLOUD DEV
There's going to be a lot of tech layoffs beginning in the 1st q of 2023 a lot over saturation in the market and also the recession.
@@Gigga101 it’s already started
@@Theblackprogressive1911 yup I'm tech right now I'm trying to get into the cloud space here soon. What do you do fam?
indeed, also who do you think they'll decide to let go when the budget gets tight / shareholders want their profits? those who on paper are expensive. which means these guys landing their 1/2 mil salary/stock options.
This is good content 👏🏻
This was great 👍🏾
Major props to Esco !
Don't expect to make that much in any tech field lmao he's story is a special case.
I make that much, you have to know what you're worth
🙄
@@clololown I'm assuming you have years of experience?
@@clololown "knowing what you're worth" doesn't mean anything in a job market where those with the money decide who is hired, not you and not your experience and skills. in fact if you tell some hiring managers or directors that you "know what you're worth" as a software engineer they'll interpret that you're overvalued and too self-interested to be a good hire. (I don't think this way but I've seen it time and time again, no one cares how good we believe we are or what we're worth, those with capital decide who is hired and on what basis, not those seeking employment)
True, never accept the initial offer!
Cool stuff Bukola.
Good Video
Thanks to both Interviewer & interviewee...
Super informative ❤
wow ... that's a really great interview
This is extremely helpful! Way more helpful than those techtok ppl. Thank You!
This dude is awesome
I'm mathematically poor, can I make it through tech, I'm thinking of going to learn UI/UX and Web development... Kindly advise
Being good at math does help a lot! But there are successful SWEs that aren't math geniuses
SWE vs UI/UX honestly depends on what you are genuinely interested in doing
In my experience. Math is not needed for mainstream dev job. Just stay away from 3D graphics programming and audio programming. For the most part, web dev can be done with the most basic understanding of math. I'm talking primary school math here.
I'm mathematically bankrupt! But guess what. I'm starting my UX/UI & Frontend internship tomorrow. You can do it bro
I was missing the dev stories :)
Can't wait until I can hire this guy
Excellent
With that high salary comes alot of responsibility. I'm good.
Architecture skills? What is involved in Software Architecture?
Hi bukola , can uber driver can become software engineer? What's step I have to take?
I need your contact thanks.
Tech is it right now
The global Uber situation 😂😂😂
Heyyyyyyyyy Esco!
Making money, starting a business and self development can only be achieved if you consistantly work on it, it is my personal experience... if you are reading this keep in mind that you cannot become successful in a week.===
Should people above 35 switch to this career if they’re talented and skilled?
What do you mean by "talented and skilled"? It's not about being the smartest person in the room, it's about working hard. If you are wiling to hustle and put the work in, then yes. It isn't easy. But it's possible.
@@a-roh5039 lol. When I think of a talented/skilled person, I’m assuming they worked hard to be that way. I just wanted to know if everyone in tech is under 30. That’s all. Thanks
@@dee468 yes
Super interesting video. Thanks for the info. Sidenote: You are really pretty.
I have decided!...I am dropping out😭
Umm please don't lol! Dropping out is a big decision. I still believe getting a CS Degree is worth it :)
how did he learn sortware engineering
Bukola, you are fine girl
💪💯🚀
I wish esco could open a mentorship program.
Awww, I can imagine how you beat yourself up because of the Uber situation.
wow please tell us how this happen
What is that group!!!????
❤
Hes overemployed which should answer the salary question
No he’s not, he sounds like a Senior dev with probably 5-8 years experience. This definitely isn’t entry level
@@Theblackprogressive1911 Matter of fact, people say all kind of ish, most times they are lying. shrugs
Would have been nice to know what stack he works with, "full stack" is kind of broad bruh lol
Nice click bait
based
Is he Tanzanian?
Everyone don't go for computer science. find something else and leave place for me. Y'all making it too competitive
Software engineer videos are boring
What an unintelligent comment!
Why must everyone know his salary?
PURE click bait. No SWE earns 500k. Stop the cap.
you clearly don't know the market rate in NYC & SF, visit levels.fyi to learn more
He sounds smarter than what he looks like. He is kinda black unlike the girl who has a nicer color.
You’re disgusting
Coding is key! Not a degree!
we like degrees on this channel too btw
@@Bukola1 but your thumbnail literally says 'No Degree' lol
Hmmmm. Don’t be scared to tell them it’s going to take a lot more time! That’s a gem right there.
This was a great interview! It was good to hear Esco’s update a year later. 😀
Esco is so phenomenal. So appreciative of these interviews!
No problem!
He reminds me of Daniel Kaluuya 🙂
I really appreciate this information. It gives me confidence in going forward in tech.
Very useful, Thanks for sharing Bukola 👏🏻
Glad it was helpful! Thank you!
Best Interview of a Software Engineer that I've ever watched on TH-cam 👏💞
He really learnt beyond what is taught in the University. I'm a computer science student about starting my third year in the university but I do have 5 years of experience in software engineering (having Bsc is almost a must in Nigeria 😂 that's why I went for it).
Thanks so much Bukola.
Thanks so much Esco.
Learned*
Trust me this guy is exaggerating and lying, I work at Microsoft and I have no idea what he is talking about.
@@gmog7857 If he’s exaggerating, why not share what you know?
@@ricardorodriguez2169 Learnt(UK) is equally correct
@@coollikedat I learned something new today. thanks
I love his story. I’m new to the industry, currently working as a QA. Looking to transition to an SE in the future. Looking for the best route of development for myself. His story is great inspiration for me.
This is good stuff. Preparing for a transition in tech, loved the Q & A!
So glad to see Esco again.
I'm such a big fan😊
Amazing wealth of knowledge here. Thank you
Thanks for commenting!
this was an excellent interview, i'm not a software engineer but lots of big picture career advice in general. esco sounds like he really deserves his success, great stuff!
I hope that you guys work together and do another video again because you guys have great chemistry what's your professional questions and backgrounds and this format is amazing I feel like we can learn so much more from Esco and anybody that you talk to in the similar format. Hopefully we can see the same people again so that we can keep learning from that same person and go deeper because there's so much more to learn and I appreciate you guys for your time thank you.
Excellent follow up interview - I am not in tech but some of the general comments about making your intentions for promotion known so you are thought of for system wide projects resonates for me - I am a frontline health worker interested in leadership - I had to voice that ambition instead of assuming the work I was doing as frontline staff would be noticed - I so appreciate this series that speaks to realities of career options and voicing ones ambition 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽❤❤
Great video. I can verify and agree with everything Esco has said.
This was amazing! Thanks for sharing - both of you ❤