I truly wish I would have found your channel a year or two ago. I was caught up in the hype of the Nox 800 and really hated it for the money spent and I was not impressed. Then I started watching all of your live dig videos with the Deus. I am happy to report I purchased a Deus I three weeks ago and it is awesome for what I doing. I was contemplating buying the Deus II, but after watching your "one on one open thought" videos you grounded me in a sense, I have come to my senses that I do not need the deepest machine and need something more suitable to my conditions I dig in. Couldn't be more happy with the Deus and not at all worried about the Deus II because I am growing more confidence everyday while using that awesome Stock Hot Program. Sorry for the long winded comment, but I truly am thankful for all the time and videos you create, it definitely takes alot of the beginning guess work out of the equipment and strategy being used in your videos. Long Live the Predator Phoenix!
Longwinded he doesnt mind! Most of the viewers dont leave anything. Iam a D1 user and having alot of fun and finds with it. Pick a program and master it , that way i found alot of goodies. All the best mate 😄
Ditto. Im an experienced detectorist but and i hated the Nox 800. Far too unstable and most signals sound iffy despite trying every conceivable combination of settings. I tried it for 6 months then couldn't wait to move it on.
This is jim i believe theres not a perfect machine and never will be just go out and have fun i have found as much as anyone with my mx7 lol just go and have fun
Same! My family owns a prospecting shop and sell metal detectors. They convinced me to pick up an 800. I really wasn't too impressed with it right off the bat. My previous detector was a Eurotek Pro which I had a lot of fun with! I sold the 800 and picked up a Simplex. Having a lot of fun with it!
Your candid messagess like this is why I come back every morning for my daily “Paystreak Superfreak” video… I appreciate the fact that you speak your mind without any concern of any pushhback from any manunfaturer where you are giving criticims, or even praise with a side of improvement advice. Keep on keepin' it real !
Hi and thank you so much for your videos, you're an inspiration! I have detected for more than 35 years give or take and you sir, 'hit the nail on the head' with this video. I have had my fair share of detectors in my time, Minelab, Tesoro, Fischer, Deus 1, etc (I could go on), and I have concluded that we don't always get what we pay for. The strength of the detector is dependent on the person who is using it, and we detectorists are a mixed bag of abilities, bot physical and mental. I detect in U.K and I decided to buy a Simplex+ and I have not regretted that decision once. I always think that it strange that the more one detects, the more one seem to find....strange that eh. People often get so obsessed with performance they forget to have fun too, and we should enjoy the exercise and the banter when you're with a mate in the fields. There will always be detector snobs in our hobby with more money than sense like in most hobbies. Thanks again from me here in U.K. Hope you like my youtube channel too. Fight on brother and keep up with the videos, they make my day and are so educational.
And that is why i Subscribed to you Jeremy years ago. Always learning in every single video you post. Today I'm a professional detectorist thanks to you. And yes i do use a Simplex
Great common sense video Jeremy. YOu've convinced me to stay with my Nox 800. I've had the 800 for about 6 months and I'm still learning. Yesterday I was able to get out for an hour and I go back to the area I have hunted for the last 45 years. And since I have removed bags full of can slaw and pull tabs, I've been able to listen more closely to the tones. Also since the weather conditions change not only the sounds, it changes the depth range of the targets I dig now. I'm finding more Nickles AND deeper silver. No where near enough hours on the Nox to really appreciate it's capabilities IMO, so I stickin' with it until I actually learn how to run it efficiently. Thanks again for this video, and keep swingin'. My list of detectors I've used in the past: Bounty Hunter; Garret; Whites, and now the Nox.
Another very informative video,I have learned plenty from watching your vids,especially the Simplex ones,made me buy one 6 months ago here in the UK and love the Machine,found me some great stuff already.
Look I currently use the one frequency machine called simplex, I don’t feel cheated, one day I get the multiple frequencies machine, I’m sure it will help, I just don’t got the money to go beyond my means, I just rolled up 100.00 in quarters that’s last 5 years so I’m ok not jealous yet
A multi frequency detector is not always a good thing, there’s a lot going on there that can cause you to miss good targets, in a lot of cases a 12 khz detector(simplex)can outperform those multi’s!..Just have to know how to work those settings and modes!
I agree 110% with you Jeremy! I despise air tests and bucket tests. Only time I air test is if the ground is so quiet, I want to make sure my detector is working lol. My deepest coin was a 12-13 inch Indian cent with the simplex, no VDI but I could hear a faint good tone. Also hit a half dime at 11 inches with the Simplex. I'm really interested in the Legend and want to see how it is side x side with the Simplex, in the field. Thanks for all your input and knowledge.
Majority of my digs are on pasture here in Ireland,I've decided to add the nokta legend and give it a go along with my ORX,gonna be a learning curve for sure and hopefully I don't regret adding the deus 1 instead lol. Wherever u all are have a great day and a good hunt.
I look forward to your Legend and D2 vids. I need a one and done machine. I still love my etrac. Now trying to learn the 800. It seems my 800 likes rusty tops and mostly gives me no clue in all metal. Thanks for all your cool vids!
I've been detecting for 30 years mate. I lived in the UK and chased hammered silver for years with a Whites DFX and then a Minelab explorer. I moved to the New England in the USA and now I hunt cellar holes. The more Iron the better. Mostly pounded sites but I do find the odd thing in the Iron 😁My finds rate definitely went up when I got the Nox 800. I love it (hate the build quality) and know it well, but I think I will be getting a Deus 2 for its Iron separation abilities if I see enough real world proof as my friend is getting one. In my detecting environment Iron separation is key, depth means very little. Thanks for the videos, its inspirational the way you detect where you are...you make me want to head out and dig a bunch of foil and tabs to get some Gold mate! In fact a checked a local park, sparse on the coin signals but heaps of foils and tabs 😎 Cheers! Happy New year to you!
I’ve been a minelab guy for years from minelab gt upto Ctx because I go on the beach mostly but I have to say one thing, I think minelabs are suspect on finding gold sovs on pasture. I have just bought a used legend and am very impressed with it and found a gold sov a few weeks back, it’s brill on coin size objects and I’m impressed!
Hey Jeremy, I guess that I’m a different type of Detectorist. I am going after the deep targets. I use the Equinox 800 and if at all possible the largest coil available. I have both the Minelab 15” and the Coiltek 15” Coils. I’m not too interested in the modern upper layer stuff, clad especially. Jewelry… well that’s the exception of course. Anyhow, in the areas I hunt you have to go deep 8 to 12 inches for more interesting stuff, at least more interesting to me. The 1960s and older coins and artifacts, probably because I’m gonna be 59 this year. I need depth out of my detector and a slow pace in order to fish out those deep targets. I especially like the pre-1950s stuff and a lot of people have hunted where I hunt and that in itself is very satisfying, the ability to fish out a V-Nickel, a Buffalo Nickel or a Mercury Dime out of a deep hole, by listening for the faintest of signals. So yeah… I really prefer a machine that goes deep and offers a modicum of discrimination. The biggest failing of the Equinox is its small range of TID numbers. That’s why it’s so important to not just rely on the numbers, but the tones too for me. I had the Deus years ago. I believe it was before the 2.0 update and absolutely hated it. I gave it six months and was absolutely discouraged by the lack of depth and it’s constant falsing on iron. It’s not that I’m slow and couldn’t figure out the “complicated settings.” Hell, I had much better and consistent luck with the Blisstool V3 and preferred that over the early Deus. The Blisstool, in my opinion, should have been a harder machine to learn and to have success with… but it wasn’t. So to sum it all up… I may give Deus a second try if the depth capability is not a myth, for the hunting I do.
One of the features of the deus 2 is you can eliminate heavy EMI with the simple push of a button. And it works flawless in hot soil compared to the deus 1. I think it will be a game changer in your hot soil.
This is so true!! I might have dug 4 or 5 indians over 10 inches in my whole life and I had the ctx3030 for a lot of years. But this Deus 2 has far superior recovery speed at deep depth and I love the quieter softer tones on the deep stuff I can cover 3 times the ground and bearly look at the screen makes it worth it to me any edge is priceless to me
Spot on in everything you say Jeremy, there's a lot of smoke and mirrors out there nowadays, social media has muddied the waters with everything including metal detecting, people are running around chasing their tails over the next "latest & greatest" wonder machine instead of taking the time to truly connect to both their current machines and the hobby as a whole, there's a lot of TH-cam 'wannabe guru' types performing ridiculously stupid tests that have no relevance on a machines performance when out in the field, I have zero time for self styled experts, I get the impression that most are more bothered about getting as many views and subscribers as possible than actually creating anything of substance, "It's all about the likes man", something has been lost along the way, for me detecting has always been a 'sensory' experience, a pure tones game, I can't help thinking that the modern machines are taking those two elements away, it's like entertainment modules are being produced with a shaft and coil added on for effect. When we've got grown men and adults using terms like "Nox Killer", it makes me wonder when it all went wrong 😅
i here you buddy.Simplex user hear (over 1000hrs) i have a test pit in my garden, has all the factor of real detecting out in the field. I hear you on the air tests, but with perfect soil conditions a detector can have greater depth especially when wet and if the item has been in the ground alot of years and produced a "halo effect". In the uk i have dug buckles buttons coins at a foot deep, a bronze aged axe head if i remember rightly was dug at 18 inch depth. Its a shame disclosure on the legend, as your the man i wanted to follow putting it through its paces.Take care my friend. p.s i have a vid on my channel simplex hitting 12 inch coins
Hey streak, I dug a large penny in a civil war site, really good ground, no EMI, 14” with a Teknetics Mark one LTD, 12” hot head coil. The 10” was a awesome coil too. The mark one was so unique, it was a 1-2 filter that dropped to one in good ground, over 30 years ago, we hit 12” bullets. Technology wise, I loved the Minelab explorer, smartfind screen was awesome too, it was stable on wet salt, very deep but killed my shoulder/arm. I personally wished for a waterproof explorer, quality build, ergonomics but it never happened
With how many videos I watch on TH-cam, how did I never come across your channel?!?! Its my first video watching you bro and I gotta say, u got some real words of wisdom.... great info!! I just subscribed and can't wait to get some more info from you! Thanks for the video and HAPPY HUNTING! DIG DEEP!
Exactly! When using any metal detector, once you've located a target, the most important decision is "do I dig" or "not dig"? So, it boils down to how much trust one gives to the detector, bearing in mind that the VDI numbers are hardly accurate in telling you what the target really is for ALL machines. So the determining factor would be depth capability, and how deep you are "willing" to dig, bearing in mind that most of the time, the deeper targets will be junk. Most seasoned detectorists hunt in wide open, so most of the detector features are irrelevant.
Hi. A man of logic 👏 👍 I'm new to detecting and deciding my first investment. I've no experience in using modern detectors but I have much experience in using other types of technical electronic equipment. In my experience its about the knowledge you have in using the equipment you have, not just the equipment you have. I'm be getting myself a Simplex plus and I know that machine will outstrip my knowledge for years 👊👍 Cheers buddy. Steve..
Really excellent points you made.I know we always have to have the latest, greatest...look at cellphones, every year we have to upgrade and pay thousands $$$$$ for a few tiny add ons!!! If you have a high quality detector, put the hours in and learn your machine, save your money and have fun 👍 Good lesson
I used to specifically target quarters and clean out the easy stuff first. Several times in areas nobody had ever detected I would make 15 to over 20 dollars an hour on quarters only but it`s tiring. I`d go for about two hours max and return the next day. When quarters were gone I hunted dimes, then nickles and gold rings last. Now my current focus is deep silver coins and relics. You didn`t like the Vanquish but that`s the only detector I can afford to try this with but I just got it and have practiced with it some but haven`t dug any targets yet. I`ve been studying it. There are some very old gardens and very old home sites and swimming holes and party areas here I have to myself. I found a silver half dollar with a Bounty Hunter in the area and needed a detector with superior depth and target ID to continue hunting here.
Hi Jeremy. I have 3 main detectors that do everything I need for my style of hunting. The Deus 2 and nokta legend really need to prove themselves before I go anywhere near them. My ultimate machine is one that is the master of separation. I don't care about depth unless it's on the beach. Stuff digging 12 inch targets in a park. Too many variables right! And can be dangerous lol. Target separation is what I want and I have it pretty good right now. Cheers. Great video once again.
Soil type is huge, but take that away and the biggest factor is knowing your detector. I've had the simplex for some time, live in N IL, and have just destroyed deep/iron infested targets in the field. Im very curious about the deus 2, but I want to know if I do pull the trigger on it and take the time to be well versed in that detector, will I pull deeper/more iron masked targets than I would with my simplex. In a low iron area, I'm not sure there would be too much of a difference. The key for me is determining if the deus 2 will scope on good targets in some of my 1800s field sites that are just covered in iron, like black smith sites, old barn sites, and some home sites. The relic program on the deus 2 looks very impressive, but I don't know if that program can, or is intended for lowering or notching iron volume. Looking forward to your tests. Please put the simplex up against the deus 2 on the targets you know the simplex struggles, or can't hit at all. Thank you for your dedication! All the best buddy!
I use the Coiltek 9.5x6 elliptical on my Nox on iron infested sites. I adjust the recovery speed very high sometimes and it beats the Deus 1 with the HF elliptical 9.5x5 between iron. But I am preferring the deus 1 on ploughed fields. The Nox kills it on the beach and it is great on pasture too and between iron. So I use both D1 and Nox I also have a Garrett 400i with all the coils for deep soft sand, pasture and specialist areas.
Your videos and comments are straight forward, You show the bad stuff as wel .. i do like the fact that you pull out maximum performance of any detector .. .. you really use them hardcore . I had many detectors , probably more then i could afford , but the need for an extra ingredient was always an excuse.. But after all i had , all i tried , my vaquero pulled out my most and unique finds , by far. And this is just a fact. Even while i am running a Deus now (1) .. my sold Vaquero was a magic wand ( one tone , but more nuances in one tone then detectors having 50 tones ) Regrets all over , period , happy with the Deus (1 ) don’t get me wrong ... Great , fast and superb audio detector.. But my finds where in no way increasing since i bought it over the Vaquero , in no way at all.
Very informative and interesting video thank you Jeremy , I'm going to see what you think of the new machines before I purchase a multi frequency machine, have a happy and lucky new year
Hey Paysteak , have you seen the user manual on the Legend?? It looks complicated. As for the deepest coin I have dug ……. 10” and I actually find most of my best coins and tokens in the 6”-9” depth. I only hunt private permission (old homes) and I can get away with digging these depths by carefully refilling the hole. Any deeper and homeowners frown on seeing large dirt mounds to find an old coin. Plus it takes lots of time to dig that deep. I like you,want to get to the next target , and the next. I use a 23year old fisher CZ5 and am getting good results with an ORX also. I must say the Deus2 looks good but is very expensive. The Legend is affordable but looks complicated. Time will tell. What you say in this video is true. I am an expert with the CZ series of detectors. Many years experience with them I got into the hobby in 1976 , I am 59 now and this hobby has been great to me . Keep up the good work with your videos …. Tony
I bought a Deus 1, 6 months ago and I am getting to grips with it. I found a lot today but no silver, Why? Because I did not manage to put the coil over any silver. I found historical items and quite a few and I would say on ploughed fields the Deus 1 could actually beat the Nox for quantity of finds and with more comfort. But most detectors could find great finds. Most is luck on club digs but some is judging where to swing the coil. Someone can find nothing all day then hit on a big gold coin 3” deep just by luck. Air tests do not work because there is no soil and dirt box tests are not realistic because the coil is not moving over the soil. When you swing the coil it ‘Sees’ not only the target moving but also several cubic feet of earth moving too and any iron in the earth. The coil sees the target and all the earth moving from its perspective. 👍
The Deus 2 isn't a dolled up Deus 1. I donno if the Deus 1 has the X-Y Screen or ... a kind of graph screen... BUT the Deus 2 does. Deus 2 also has some kind of bottle cap blocker. Which like you say... does it work in the ground? Doesn the Cap blocker also get rid of gold rings? Legend I believe... is a dolled up Nox... It has better water proof design... it's stronger... it has the little Iron bar thing WHICH I believe is the same as iron volume, it might have a smiggion more to identify but basically... just another nox . I think the Deus 2 is going to SHINE SHINE SHINE !! And I've laid my 1600 smackers down for it. IF NOT... won't be the first time I wasted my money !!! LOL Good Video.
The sad fact is that most metal detector users don't understand the laws of physics. The obsession with depth is rife in the metal detecting world. Until a completely new technology for metal detecting comes there will be nothing at all to gain regarding depth in buying new detectors . VLF has hit the limits many years ago but 99% of detectorists will not accept the fact.
Yes and no. I agree "raw depth" has been maxed, but reaching that max depth while ignoring soil minerals and trash iron can be improved upon and I think itay have been with one of these new machines. So while simple raw depth is not the answer, unmasking and adjacent target interference can be improved upon drastically.
@tunnelportterror depending where u live the story of the land have u ever heard about gold/silver coins in a ancient artifact vaze!it might hit from 60c. To 1m.its worth digging some ptolemean/alexander the great coins etc!.but once in a lifetime
Yes but imagine a gold coin 18"-20" like one in a .million hits! And u can detect it wouldn't that be nice once in a while...or a lifetime!? Others sorts of is EMI,MINERALS,SOIL MOISTURE ETC I've seen test in fields from 3 different sources deus2 and manticore can hit those depths...other factor is on the people using the machines how experienced they are
@@PaystreakSuperfreak I really appreciate your videos and have learned a lot from all your experience metal detecting. Keep up the great videos Paystreak ! Greene County Pennsylvania is always watching!!
I Bought A Simplex Based On Your Awesome Reviews...I could not Be Happier With it and My Father is even Considering Buying one Now after seeing how mine Performs...Are the Deus and Deus 2 and Legend going to be Better Machines Absolutely but I will not be upgrading anytime soon... I buy a new detector every ten years or so I like to get a detector and master it...Still Love your Comparison videos they really show how these Detectors preform in real world Conditions ! Keep up the Great Work👍
Hi paystreak love your videos .I have got the simplex and have found everything I want to find with this.. I am thinking what is the near 500 quid difference in price with the legend to the simplex.. multi frequency...big deal.. lol just found my 1st gold coin last week a slightly battered and bruised condition George 2nd gold one guinea coin on ploughed fields ..so no need to change my machine just to say I got the latest model ...lol love all your honesty whilst detecting no bull sxxt like a lot of other you tubers ..keep up the great videos will love to see how u compare the simplex to the legend ....Happy hunting
So true. I watched a guy with a soil box saying "oh wow it hits it at 18"s." The numbers are sketchy as and barely registering and I know I would never bother digging crap like that. I totally agree. Real world digs are the only thing worth watching. I have a nox800 and a simplex as a backup. I have ordered a legend because I want a new machine to use and learn as I've mastered the equinox and the multifrequency definitely outperforms the simplex in certain locations and especially high EMI environments. Not keen on the amount of settings and learning on the Deus as I think for me personally it's unnecessary as is the price.
My main consideration in potentially moving from the Deus to the Deus II is this - if it handles salt environments as well as the claims go, I'll almost certainly make that move. The 1 or 2 wet sand tests I've seen of the II, are very promising. I've only seen one actual dive video with it, and I'm not as sold in that department, but even just SOLID wet sand/shallow water performance will win me over. A machine of that quality, combined with the ergonomics/light weight, etc., that can also do well in salt would be something I'd love to have in the arsenal.
truth spoken here keep up the videos i hope 2022 is the best year let take out the detectors to some gold spots and do some vids nox in gold mode orx the deus2 the legend could do some sluice comparisons too i got a angus makerk if the orx can find me a1.2 and a 0.6 off the beach this past year then im thinking the nokta and deus2 might be fun to see what they can do
Experienced that exact fact, the club where on a dig not long back, virgin land, everyones machine went nuts, every thing that was found was 0 minus 3 that was a true test, found my first roman coin that day and bronze, all what was heard is equivalent of a needle scratch, very heavy mineralisation.
I got into a pissing match with a detectorist about air tests. I told them the same your saying. I’ve been detecting for 50+ years and I have some high end detectors. I full small coils on all my machines.
Thats what i was thinking. The deus the deus 2 and the equinox. Should be a great video. Maybe mess with the recovery speed also on the equinox when u do that test also. Thx. Appreciate everything
I really enjoy your videos, I have learned more from them more than any book. Is the Deus 1 still a good buy if it's really cheap -$400 bills new with a x35 11 inch coil and ws5 headphones ???
Know you're machine. I buried a 9" clad quarter at the park months ago,,took 15 minutes to refind it, it was a little iffy of a signal but I knew. This was with Eurotek Pro with the tiger coil. It's a simple machine, and I do not feel like other machines are really pulling much more than what this can retrieve also. Though I do want the Teknetiks Patriot F/70 next. From what I've seen its an Excellent worker in the heavy iron sites. Was really concedering nokta Impact. But there's too little footage of anyone swinging or desiring this model.
I've used mostly analog machines all my years of detecting and I can tell you that the majority of these finds that people are making with these new high tech machines I know I would have found the majority of them with my bounty hunter tracker lV,, lt's about location location location,, Enough said,,,
In my eyes the older analog machines are some of the top performers still. The older machines do better in the EMI and most of them are based on the same concepts of "dialing in" and stabilizing the detectors to different soils. Nowadays the machines have too many settings and features that make it difficult to tune into the soils. The added features on digital detectors take time to learn and just a whole lot of button pushing and not digging. The older machines are not waterproof and not durable enough for harsh terrain and the spare parts are almost impossible to find. Tesoro Lobo and Sabre are absolute beasts!! Location is almost everything nowadays. These new machines probably not that much better in performance than the machines we have now.
That is very true yes. My opinion is that people will still keep buying top of the line expensive detectors due to the delusion of obtaining extra depth to get the valuable find.
I will be waiting for your tests on the Deus 2. I know we will get a no BS report. I would especially like to know if you think the new Deus 2 is that much better than the original deus that it would be worth upgrading to. Was thinking about getting the deus 2 but got a killer deal on an original deus.
Thank you so much Bill!! I have learned a lifetime of detecting skills from all of your videos on so many different machines. You are a true teacher, legend and "THE POINEER" of live dig videos. Your videos many years ago were invaluable information on the machines we were trying to master. One of my favorite videos you made a few years ago was with your grandson smacking coins in the totlot. Videos like that are frikn priceless man. Happy New Year Bill!!
@@PaystreakSuperfreak Awwwwww, thanks man.......;o) My videos are kind of boring but you get to see the vdi and sounds and live digs. I think your videos are awesome. Keep up the good work. Again, looking forward to some unbiased test. Thanks.
I want to upgrade from my Simplex to the Legend not because it detects deeper or because it’s the newest, latest and greatest. It has a more precise notch and stability. The rest of the features are just added bonuses that are within my budget.
I've got an old Bounty hunter and it doesn't have the vdi numbers and you don't have to worry about emi and it goes deep. If I get another it'll probably be a simplex. 💖💯
I totally agree on several points. I almost got caught up in the legend hype. Though, I believe it will be a good machine, I already have a good machine, equinox. I thought that I need to fully understand the equinox before even thinking of trying to learn something new, and different. Also, just the other day digging I thought to myself, why would I really want to dig anymore than 8” anyway. And to that point, and you have more experience than me, how many targets do really get normally more than 6-8” deep max? Me, not many, so depth isn’t a huge concern . Thanks for your videos and input.
I still got 6 Tesoro's. Tesoro's are the only detectors that can tell a nickel from a square pulltab. When you swing your coil over the target, you roll the disc. knob forward, and the nickel will always go out before the square pull-tab will. And if it does, its a nickel nearly every time. I don't want to dig down a foot. First of all it makes a mess and second of all, its tiring and monotonous. I metal detect to relax and have fun, not to dig to China. The Vaquero can hit a quarter at one foot if after you have ground balanced it you turn the gb knob a quarter turn back to the negative and then jack up the threshold. Scannerguy did it on a video one time. and I have buried quarters that it would hit deep.
@@DannyB-cs9vx Yes, they both did some excellent videos on the quality of different metal detectors. Haven't seen Scannerguy in a long time. Hope he's ok. He sounded just like Jesse Ventura the wrestler to me.
I somewhat agree with your point but also have to disagree on the bases that for example, brand “ X “ can air test at a maximum of 5 inches and brand “Y “ can test at a maximum of 7 inches, it’s reasonable to say that the “Y “ can detect deeper than “ X “.
I have an Anfibio Multi and I do pretty well with it in terrible soil and heavy iron(At least I think I do well)… I will likely sell it an get the Legend because it’s seems to have less settings and is actually cheaper than the Anfibio. The Legend shouldn’t be a huge learning curve for me because I have used Nokta/Makro detectors for years. Can someone explain “hot soil” and what those numbers may be when ground balancing the Anfibio? I’m actually still learning the Anfibio an I always wonder if I should be in 5, 14, or 20 MHz in hot soil or heavy iron. I don’t get much time detecting so I usually go in 3 tone using 14Mhz. I always feel like I’m wasting time playing with settings I’m unfamiliar with in the field! Anyways… great video ,happy hunting , and happy new year!
Enjoyed this alot. What do you use to record vidoes on? The picture quality is amazing. I am thinking about trying The Legend and looking forward to seeing you use it and your feedback. Thanks for posting!
Hi Jeremy, you are a real expert and I love the way you test metaldetectors so I have a question : I at the moment I have the anfibio (also had the simplex). Think the anfibio is a real chattery machine above 89 and other programs then 3-tone. And of course the overload problem. Does the legend have also the overload problem...? Can you tune the recovery speed separately from the gain? Thank you for your inspiration Thinking of selling the anfibio.
The Anfibio recovery speed is very slow above 89 gain and 3 tone is the most stable. The only settings I can use the Anfibio in my soil is 3 tone at 89 gain 20khz. The Anfibio is very much disabled by the overload tone. The Legend does not have the overload issue. The recovery speed being separate from gain is a huge advancement with the Legend. My opinion Multi frequency machines have a place and that is in wet sand. I do not use multi frequency on machines very often. The Legend has one big issue right now.....no 9" coil. The LG28(11") coil makes the Legend very unbalanced and awkward to swing around for more than a couple hours. The LG15(6") coil can only cover so much ground and is not quite deep enough for all around use. The Legend is still badass and you would like it very much compared to the Anfibio.
air tests are 100% bs for sure. what i do like to watch though , is a known well tested machine , like Deus . vs the Deus 2 . yes there will be people that set it up to fail by adjusting it etc. but equal settings , equal conditions . now we got most likely the most tested machine vs a brand new one , and if the D2 can match or beat it right out of the box, that tells me , this might be great , atleast not worse.
Sir, I'm new to metal detecting and been watching a lot of videos and now i'm more confused about it all. Sir, i want a metal detector that I can use in the park on the beach sand and wet sand but not in the water. I'm not going put 1 foot maybe in water. I want to hunt mostly Jewelry and that's it. I know i'm new but I'm willing to learn the machine. I don't need all the bells and whistles. I want something that works and that I can grow with and have fun a long the way. I'm retired military and ready to have some fun metal detecting. Thank you sir.
By the way I live in South Carolina Dirt and sand. And I will be hunting hilton head and frappe island when i get my metal detecter. And some parks and schools around the house. Thanks
If you are new to metal detecting , the Nokta Simplex or Minelab Vanquish is a good start. Start cheap!! Deus machines are not for beginners. Happy hunting and good luck!!
I always thought air testing is a waste of time. Haven't had rain in months?....then a month or rain.....big difference. I detect in the woods often. Learned a lot doing that vs in a field
I am too broke to replace the broken coils for my Equinox 800. Sure the Manticore may be new tech...but why so expensive? Other manufacturers, the price is going down.
Little off topic, my wife has metal in her back, rods and screws. The Simplex will hit the top, middle and bottom. but the pulse Dive will only hit at the top? I can't figure out why the different, or what different the metal may be. Is there a metal a Pulse Dive will not detect?
This man knows his stuff, if buy a new machine you are almost back to square one as you need to 100's of hours of learning to use. I also note you are nearly paying double or more for these new machines. How much better are they to justify spending the cash?
My view is the only way to compare machines is to use the same target undisturbed. Find a target, switch to a different machine, see what it says. Conditions need to be identical and noted. Both machines run in the same modes, (all metal, discrimination). There are meters that can measure and ID EMI. In Ham Radio we use a spectrograph to see activity at different frequencies. One machine may be 10% better than another in a certain situation, but 20% worst in another. Most of finding is 90% luck. If your coil doesn't go over it, you are not finding it. I watch videos about a guy with a $6,000 machine that says I found this gold nugget when I used other machines in this area, and they did not. Maybe the coil of the other machine did not go over it. Maybe he was daydreaming and missed the signal. Get the other machine and see if it does find the target before you dig it up. Maybe he would not sell as many $6,000 machines doing that. I think the test beds that use soil are fair enough, but they only reflect that particular soil. One would need several test tubs. A detector good in salt, may not be good in mineralized. Standardized tests have not been created for comparing detectors. How does it do on soil with 5% iron? Nobody knows. We are at the mercy of happenstance and marketing.
I have learned so much from your good advice, when I started with my new machine "anfibio" I was all worried about depth now I'm more worried about separation. Like you said you can't find deep targets till you clean up all the shallow targets first, which makes so much sense. So now when I go out with the anfibio I hunt in three tone at 89 for faster recovery, I would like to drop the sensitivity level much lower but then I'm losing recovery speed! As for the overload I'm not having much trouble with that, the only time I get that is when I sweep over big item.
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I truly wish I would have found your channel a year or two ago. I was caught up in the hype of the Nox 800 and really hated it for the money spent and I was not impressed. Then I started watching all of your live dig videos with the Deus. I am happy to report I purchased a Deus I three weeks ago and it is awesome for what I doing. I was contemplating buying the Deus II, but after watching your "one on one open thought" videos you grounded me in a sense, I have come to my senses that I do not need the deepest machine and need something more suitable to my conditions I dig in. Couldn't be more happy with the Deus and not at all worried about the Deus II because I am growing more confidence everyday while using that awesome Stock Hot Program. Sorry for the long winded comment, but I truly am thankful for all the time and videos you create, it definitely takes alot of the beginning guess work out of the equipment and strategy being used in your videos. Long Live the Predator Phoenix!
Longwinded he doesnt mind! Most of the viewers dont leave anything. Iam a D1 user and having alot of fun and finds with it. Pick a program and master it , that way i found alot of goodies. All the best mate 😄
Ditto. Im an experienced detectorist but and i hated the Nox 800. Far too unstable and most signals sound iffy despite trying every conceivable combination of settings.
I tried it for 6 months then couldn't wait to move it on.
This is jim i believe theres not a perfect machine and never will be just go out and have fun i have found as much as anyone with my mx7 lol just go and have fun
Same! My family owns a prospecting shop and sell metal detectors. They convinced me to pick up an 800. I really wasn't too impressed with it right off the bat. My previous detector was a Eurotek Pro which I had a lot of fun with! I sold the 800 and picked up a Simplex. Having a lot of fun with it!
nox 800 was a beast i found so much gold at the beach with it that you become a believer!
Your candid messagess like this is why I come back every morning for my daily “Paystreak Superfreak” video… I appreciate the fact that you speak your mind without any concern of any pushhback from any manunfaturer where you are giving criticims, or even praise with a side of improvement advice. Keep on keepin' it real !
This is why I love this channel. Real talk, NO bullsh#t !
Keep up the good work brother 👍
I appreciate that
Hi and thank you so much for your videos, you're an inspiration! I have detected for more than 35 years give or take and you sir, 'hit the nail on the head' with this video. I have had my fair share of detectors in my time, Minelab, Tesoro, Fischer, Deus 1, etc (I could go on), and I have concluded that we don't always get what we pay for. The strength of the detector is dependent on the person who is using it, and we detectorists are a mixed bag of abilities, bot physical and mental. I detect in U.K and I decided to buy a Simplex+ and I have not regretted that decision once. I always think that it strange that the more one detects, the more one seem to find....strange that eh. People often get so obsessed with performance they forget to have fun too, and we should enjoy the exercise and the banter when you're with a mate in the fields. There will always be detector snobs in our hobby with more money than sense like in most hobbies. Thanks again from me here in U.K. Hope you like my youtube channel too. Fight on brother and keep up with the videos, they make my day and are so educational.
Thank you so much for commenting!! Everybody has different abilities like you said.
And that is why i Subscribed to you Jeremy years ago.
Always learning in every single video you post. Today I'm a professional detectorist thanks to you. And yes i do use a Simplex
Great common sense video Jeremy. YOu've convinced me to stay with my Nox 800. I've had the 800 for about 6 months and I'm still learning. Yesterday I was able to get out for an hour and I go back to the area I have hunted for the last 45 years. And since I have removed bags full of can slaw and pull tabs, I've been able to listen more closely to the tones. Also since the weather conditions change not only the sounds, it changes the depth range of the targets I dig now. I'm finding more Nickles AND deeper silver.
No where near enough hours on the Nox to really appreciate it's capabilities IMO, so I stickin' with it until I actually learn how to run it efficiently.
Thanks again for this video, and keep swingin'.
My list of detectors I've used in the past: Bounty Hunter; Garret; Whites, and now the Nox.
Words of wisdom coming from experience is valuable and appreciated.
Another very informative video,I have learned plenty from watching your vids,especially the Simplex ones,made me buy one 6 months ago here in the UK and love the Machine,found me some great stuff already.
Glad to help
Look I currently use the one frequency machine called simplex, I don’t feel cheated, one day I get the multiple frequencies machine, I’m sure it will help, I just don’t got the money to go beyond my means, I just rolled up 100.00 in quarters that’s last 5 years so I’m ok not jealous yet
A multi frequency detector is not always a good thing, there’s a lot going on there that can cause you to miss good targets, in a lot of cases a 12 khz detector(simplex)can outperform those multi’s!..Just have to know how to work those settings and modes!
I agree 110% with you Jeremy! I despise air tests and bucket tests. Only time I air test is if the ground is so quiet, I want to make sure my detector is working lol. My deepest coin was a 12-13 inch Indian cent with the simplex, no VDI but I could hear a faint good tone. Also hit a half dime at 11 inches with the Simplex. I'm really interested in the Legend and want to see how it is side x side with the Simplex, in the field. Thanks for all your input and knowledge.
Im waiting for your honest tests of Deus 2. Good luck
Majority of my digs are on pasture here in Ireland,I've decided to add the nokta legend and give it a go along with my ORX,gonna be a learning curve for sure and hopefully I don't regret adding the deus 1 instead lol. Wherever u all are have a great day and a good hunt.
When it comes to metal detecting and metal detectors this channel has got it all.
This guy has the reality of metal detecting down. Every detecting beginner should watch this
I agree 100%, I watched a couple, but mainly to see the display/menu, and to hear the tones.
I look forward to your Legend and D2 vids. I need a one and done machine. I still love my etrac. Now trying to learn the 800. It seems my 800 likes rusty tops and mostly gives me no clue in all metal. Thanks for all your cool vids!
I've been detecting for 30 years mate. I lived in the UK and chased hammered silver for years with a Whites DFX and then a Minelab explorer. I moved to the New England in the USA and now I hunt cellar holes. The more Iron the better. Mostly pounded sites but I do find the odd thing in the Iron 😁My finds rate definitely went up when I got the Nox 800. I love it (hate the build quality) and know it well, but I think I will be getting a Deus 2 for its Iron separation abilities if I see enough real world proof as my friend is getting one. In my detecting environment Iron separation is key, depth means very little. Thanks for the videos, its inspirational the way you detect where you are...you make me want to head out and dig a bunch of foil and tabs to get some Gold mate! In fact a checked a local park, sparse on the coin signals but heaps of foils and tabs 😎 Cheers! Happy New year to you!
Thanks for sharing brother. Enjoyed the information and insight.
I’ve been a minelab guy for years from minelab gt upto Ctx because I go on the beach mostly but I have to say one thing, I think minelabs are suspect on finding gold sovs on pasture. I have just bought a used legend and am very impressed with it and found a gold sov a few weeks back, it’s brill on coin size objects and I’m impressed!
Hey Jeremy, I guess that I’m a different type of Detectorist. I am going after the deep targets. I use the Equinox 800 and if at all possible the largest coil available. I have both the Minelab 15” and the Coiltek 15” Coils. I’m not too interested in the modern upper layer stuff, clad especially. Jewelry… well that’s the exception of course. Anyhow, in the areas I hunt you have to go deep 8 to 12 inches for more interesting stuff, at least more interesting to me. The 1960s and older coins and artifacts, probably because I’m gonna be 59 this year. I need depth out of my detector and a slow pace in order to fish out those deep targets. I especially like the pre-1950s stuff and a lot of people have hunted where I hunt and that in itself is very satisfying, the ability to fish out a V-Nickel, a Buffalo Nickel or a Mercury Dime out of a deep hole, by listening for the faintest of signals. So yeah… I really prefer a machine that goes deep and offers a modicum of discrimination. The biggest failing of the Equinox is its small range of TID numbers. That’s why it’s so important to not just rely on the numbers, but the tones too for me. I had the Deus years ago. I believe it was before the 2.0 update and absolutely hated it. I gave it six months and was absolutely discouraged by the lack of depth and it’s constant falsing on iron. It’s not that I’m slow and couldn’t figure out the “complicated settings.” Hell, I had much better and consistent luck with the Blisstool V3 and preferred that over the early Deus. The Blisstool, in my opinion, should have been a harder machine to learn and to have success with… but it wasn’t. So to sum it all up… I may give Deus a second try if the depth capability is not a myth, for the hunting I do.
One of the features of the deus 2 is you can eliminate heavy EMI with the simple push of a button. And it works flawless in hot soil compared to the deus 1. I think it will be a game changer in your hot soil.
This is so true!!
I might have dug 4 or 5 indians over 10 inches in my whole life and I had the ctx3030 for a lot of years. But this Deus 2 has far superior recovery speed at deep depth and I love the quieter softer tones on the deep stuff I can cover 3 times the ground and bearly look at the screen makes it worth it to me any edge is priceless to me
Spot on in everything you say Jeremy, there's a lot of smoke and mirrors out there nowadays, social media has muddied the waters with everything including metal detecting, people are running around chasing their tails over the next "latest & greatest" wonder machine instead of taking the time to truly connect to both their current machines and the hobby as a whole, there's a lot of TH-cam 'wannabe guru' types performing ridiculously stupid tests that have no relevance on a machines performance when out in the field, I have zero time for self styled experts, I get the impression that most are more bothered about getting as many views and subscribers as possible than actually creating anything of substance, "It's all about the likes man", something has been lost along the way, for me detecting has always been a 'sensory' experience, a pure tones game, I can't help thinking that the modern machines are taking those two elements away, it's like entertainment modules are being produced with a shaft and coil added on for effect. When we've got grown men and adults using terms like "Nox Killer", it makes me wonder when it all went wrong 😅
When Jeremy comes closer to the cam, you better listen carefully 😉 - No NDA suits you!! Thnks 4 sharing 🤜🏻
Good Job Sir!
i here you buddy.Simplex user hear (over 1000hrs) i have a test pit in my garden, has all the factor of real detecting out in the field. I hear you on the air tests, but with perfect soil conditions a detector can have greater depth especially when wet and if the item has been in the ground alot of years and produced a "halo effect". In the uk i have dug buckles buttons coins at a foot deep, a bronze aged axe head if i remember rightly was dug at 18 inch depth. Its a shame disclosure on the legend, as your the man i wanted to follow putting it through its paces.Take care my friend. p.s i have a vid on my channel simplex hitting 12 inch coins
I just got a legend. The SMF and waterproof abilities were the selling point for me 👍. DO THE 1.07 UPDATE.
Hey streak, I dug a large penny in a civil war site, really good ground, no EMI, 14” with a Teknetics Mark one LTD, 12” hot head coil. The 10” was a awesome coil too. The mark one was so unique, it was a 1-2 filter that dropped to one in good ground, over 30 years ago, we hit 12” bullets. Technology wise, I loved the Minelab explorer, smartfind screen was awesome too, it was stable on wet salt, very deep but killed my shoulder/arm. I personally wished for a waterproof explorer, quality build, ergonomics but it never happened
I really like the Etrac, except the wobbly shaft. Those older detectors were very heavy I do agree!!
With how many videos I watch on TH-cam, how did I never come across your channel?!?! Its my first video watching you bro and I gotta say, u got some real words of wisdom.... great info!! I just subscribed and can't wait to get some more info from you! Thanks for the video and HAPPY HUNTING! DIG DEEP!
Welcome to my channel Brandon.
Exactly! When using any metal detector, once you've located a target, the most important decision is "do I dig" or "not dig"? So, it boils down to how much trust one gives to the detector, bearing in mind that the VDI numbers are hardly accurate in telling you what the target really is for ALL machines.
So the determining factor would be depth capability, and how deep you are "willing" to dig, bearing in mind that most of the time, the deeper targets will be junk. Most seasoned detectorists hunt in wide open, so most of the detector features are irrelevant.
Hi. A man of logic 👏 👍
I'm new to detecting and deciding my first investment. I've no experience in using modern detectors but I have much experience in using other types of technical electronic equipment. In my experience its about the knowledge you have in using the equipment you have, not just the equipment you have.
I'm be getting myself a Simplex plus and I know that machine will outstrip my knowledge for years
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Cheers buddy.
Steve..
Well said!
Really excellent points you made.I know we always have to have the latest, greatest...look at cellphones, every year we have to upgrade and pay thousands $$$$$ for a few tiny add ons!!! If you have a high quality detector, put the hours in and learn your machine, save your money and have fun 👍 Good lesson
I used to specifically target quarters and clean out the easy stuff first. Several times in areas nobody had ever detected I would make 15 to over 20 dollars an hour on quarters only but it`s tiring. I`d go for about two hours max and return the next day. When quarters were gone I hunted dimes, then nickles and gold rings last. Now my current focus is deep silver coins and relics. You didn`t like the Vanquish but that`s the only detector I can afford to try this with but I just got it and have practiced with it some but haven`t dug any targets yet. I`ve been studying it. There are some very old gardens and very old home sites and swimming holes and party areas here I have to myself. I found a silver half dollar with a Bounty Hunter in the area and needed a detector with superior depth and target ID to continue hunting here.
I was finding the same things 45 years ago as i find now, knowing your machine is the important factor.
Hi Jeremy.
I have 3 main detectors that do everything I need for my style of hunting. The Deus 2 and nokta legend really need to prove themselves before I go anywhere near them. My ultimate machine is one that is the master of separation.
I don't care about depth unless it's on the beach. Stuff digging 12 inch targets in a park. Too many variables right! And can be dangerous lol. Target separation is what I want and I have it pretty good right now.
Cheers. Great video once again.
Soil type is huge, but take that away and the biggest factor is knowing your detector. I've had the simplex for some time, live in N IL, and have just destroyed deep/iron infested targets in the field. Im very curious about the deus 2, but I want to know if I do pull the trigger on it and take the time to be well versed in that detector, will I pull deeper/more iron masked targets than I would with my simplex. In a low iron area, I'm not sure there would be too much of a difference. The key for me is determining if the deus 2 will scope on good targets in some of my 1800s field sites that are just covered in iron, like black smith sites, old barn sites, and some home sites. The relic program on the deus 2 looks very impressive, but I don't know if that program can, or is intended for lowering or notching iron volume. Looking forward to your tests. Please put the simplex up against the deus 2 on the targets you know the simplex struggles, or can't hit at all. Thank you for your dedication! All the best buddy!
I use the Coiltek 9.5x6 elliptical on my Nox on iron infested sites. I adjust the recovery speed very high sometimes and it beats the Deus 1 with the HF elliptical 9.5x5 between iron. But I am preferring the deus 1 on ploughed fields. The Nox kills it on the beach and it is great on pasture too and between iron. So I use both D1 and Nox I also have a Garrett 400i with all the coils for deep soft sand, pasture and specialist areas.
I am looking forward to the day you get the Deus 2 !!!!!!
Your videos and comments are straight forward,
You show the bad stuff as wel ..
i do like the fact that you pull out maximum performance of any detector ..
.. you really use them hardcore .
I had many detectors , probably more then i could afford , but the need for an extra ingredient was always an excuse..
But after all i had , all i tried , my vaquero pulled out my most and unique finds , by far.
And this is just a fact.
Even while i am running a Deus now (1) .. my sold Vaquero was a magic wand ( one tone , but more nuances in one tone then detectors having 50 tones )
Regrets all over , period , happy with the Deus (1 ) don’t get me wrong ...
Great , fast and superb audio detector..
But my finds where in no way increasing since i bought it over the Vaquero , in no way at all.
Very informative and interesting video thank you Jeremy , I'm going to see what you think of the new machines before I purchase a multi frequency machine, have a happy and lucky new year
Hey Paysteak , have you seen the user manual on the Legend?? It looks complicated. As for the deepest coin I have dug ……. 10” and I actually find most of my best coins and tokens in the 6”-9” depth. I only hunt private permission (old homes) and I can get away with digging these depths by carefully refilling the hole. Any deeper and homeowners frown on seeing large dirt mounds to find an old coin. Plus it takes lots of time to dig that deep. I like you,want to get to the next target , and the next. I use a 23year old fisher CZ5 and am getting good results with an ORX also. I must say the Deus2 looks good but is very expensive. The Legend is affordable but looks complicated. Time will tell. What you say in this video is true. I am an expert with the CZ series of detectors. Many years experience with them I got into the hobby in 1976 , I am 59 now and this hobby has been great to me . Keep up the good work with your videos …. Tony
Finally someone telling it the way it is.
I bought a Deus 1, 6 months ago and I am getting to grips with it. I found a lot today but no silver, Why? Because I did not manage to put the coil over any silver. I found historical items and quite a few and I would say on ploughed fields the Deus 1 could actually beat the Nox for quantity of finds and with more comfort. But most detectors could find great finds. Most is luck on club digs but some is judging where to swing the coil.
Someone can find nothing all day then hit on a big gold coin 3” deep just by luck.
Air tests do not work because there is no soil and dirt box tests are not realistic because the coil is not moving over the soil. When you swing the coil it ‘Sees’ not only the target moving but also several cubic feet of earth moving too and any iron in the earth. The coil sees the target and all the earth moving from its perspective.
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@oldplucker1 Thanks for this comment. I just made a video debunking those dirt box tests.
I agree with you 100. %
*This is so true Superfreak, so true. I just subscribed to your excellent channel* 🙋♂️🤠💰🏴☠️
Thanks for subbing
Always love the videos endings, it just comes out of nowhere haha 😂
Glad you like them!
The Deus 2 isn't a dolled up Deus 1. I donno if the Deus 1 has the X-Y Screen or ... a kind of graph screen... BUT the Deus 2 does. Deus 2 also has some kind of bottle cap blocker. Which like you say... does it work in the ground? Doesn the Cap blocker also get rid of gold rings? Legend I believe... is a dolled up Nox... It has better water proof design... it's stronger... it has the little Iron bar thing WHICH I believe is the same as iron volume, it might have a smiggion more to identify but basically... just another nox . I think the Deus 2 is going to SHINE SHINE SHINE !! And I've laid my 1600 smackers down for it. IF NOT... won't be the first time I wasted my money !!! LOL Good Video.
Xp Deus 1 have a XY screen
Deus 1 does have the xy but I agree, the Deus 2 is going to be better than the Origina Deus
Deus ll is a Deus with more bells. Don't fall for the hype
The sad fact is that most metal detector users don't understand the laws of physics. The obsession with depth is rife in the metal detecting world. Until a completely new technology
for metal detecting comes there will be nothing at all to gain regarding depth in buying new detectors . VLF has hit the limits many years ago but 99% of detectorists will not accept the fact.
Yes and no. I agree "raw depth" has been maxed, but reaching that max depth while ignoring soil minerals and trash iron can be improved upon and I think itay have been with one of these new machines. So while simple raw depth is not the answer, unmasking and adjacent target interference can be improved upon drastically.
yeh, the technology is called a track loader, conveyor, and sorter, i.e. a strip mine. wtf wants to dig 2 ft. holes all day to get a $50 coin
@tunnelportterror depending where u live the story of the land have u ever heard about gold/silver coins in a ancient artifact vaze!it might hit from 60c. To 1m.its worth digging some ptolemean/alexander the great coins etc!.but once in a lifetime
exactly ! if all the hits are 18" down, we need a track loader, and conveyor processor and sorter, like a strip mine !
Exactly!!
Yes but imagine a gold coin 18"-20" like one in a .million hits! And u can detect it wouldn't that be nice once in a while...or a lifetime!? Others sorts of is EMI,MINERALS,SOIL MOISTURE ETC I've seen test in fields from 3 different sources deus2 and manticore can hit those depths...other factor is on the people using the machines how experienced they are
Great video brother !
Thanks for the visit
@@PaystreakSuperfreak I really appreciate your videos and have learned a lot from all your experience metal detecting. Keep up the great videos Paystreak !
Greene County Pennsylvania is always watching!!
Great video as always Jeremy
Happy New Year 👍
Spot on Brother. Great video
Thank you.
I Bought A Simplex Based On Your Awesome Reviews...I could not Be Happier
With it and My Father is even Considering Buying one Now after seeing how mine Performs...Are the Deus and Deus 2 and Legend going to be Better Machines Absolutely but I will not be upgrading anytime soon... I buy a new detector every ten years or so I like to get a detector and master it...Still Love your Comparison videos they really show how these Detectors preform in real world Conditions ! Keep up the Great Work👍
Great to hear! The Simplex really is a masterpiece!! Good luck Dusty and Dad!!
Hi paystreak love your videos .I have got the simplex and have found everything I want to find with this.. I am thinking what is the near 500 quid difference in price with the legend to the simplex.. multi frequency...big deal.. lol just found my 1st gold coin last week a slightly battered and bruised condition George 2nd gold one guinea coin on ploughed fields ..so no need to change my machine just to say I got the latest model ...lol love all your honesty whilst detecting no bull sxxt like a lot of other you tubers ..keep up the great videos will love to see how u compare the simplex to the legend ....Happy hunting
So true. I watched a guy with a soil box saying "oh wow it hits it at 18"s." The numbers are sketchy as and barely registering and I know I would never bother digging crap like that. I totally agree. Real world digs are the only thing worth watching. I have a nox800 and a simplex as a backup. I have ordered a legend because I want a new machine to use and learn as I've mastered the equinox and the multifrequency definitely outperforms the simplex in certain locations and especially high EMI environments. Not keen on the amount of settings and learning on the Deus as I think for me personally it's unnecessary as is the price.
My main consideration in potentially moving from the Deus to the Deus II is this - if it handles salt environments as well as the claims go, I'll almost certainly make that move. The 1 or 2 wet sand tests I've seen of the II, are very promising. I've only seen one actual dive video with it, and I'm not as sold in that department, but even just SOLID wet sand/shallow water performance will win me over. A machine of that quality, combined with the ergonomics/light weight, etc., that can also do well in salt would be something I'd love to have in the arsenal.
17 minutes of my life I'll never get back.
wow your so lucky to be getting a deus two to test. It will be a while before I can even have one in my hands.
I just like how you Metal Detecing. You do it right No B’S
truth spoken here keep up the videos i hope 2022 is the best year let take out the detectors to some gold spots and do some vids nox in gold mode orx the deus2 the legend could do some sluice comparisons too i got a angus makerk if the orx can find me a1.2 and a 0.6 off the beach this past year then im thinking the nokta and deus2 might be fun to see what they can do
Experienced that exact fact, the club where on a dig not long back, virgin land, everyones machine went nuts, every thing that was found was 0 minus 3 that was a true test, found my first roman coin that day and bronze, all what was heard is equivalent of a needle scratch, very heavy mineralisation.
I got into a pissing match with a detectorist about air tests. I told them the same your saying. I’ve been detecting for 50+ years and I have some high end detectors. I full small coils on all my machines.
I bought a simplex cap because you’ve got one 👍🏻
Thats what i was thinking. The deus the deus 2 and the equinox. Should be a great video. Maybe mess with the recovery speed also on the equinox when u do that test also. Thx. Appreciate everything
I really enjoy your videos, I have learned more from them more than any book. Is the Deus 1 still a good buy if it's really cheap -$400 bills new with a x35 11 inch coil and ws5 headphones ???
@tdwilcox That is a very very good deal for the Deus 1. Now all you need is an HF coil. Your D1 package would normally cost almost 1000 dollars.
Know you're machine. I buried a 9" clad quarter at the park months ago,,took 15 minutes to refind it, it was a little iffy of a signal but I knew. This was with Eurotek Pro with the tiger coil. It's a simple machine, and I do not feel like other machines are really pulling much more than what this can retrieve also. Though I do want the Teknetiks Patriot F/70 next. From what I've seen its an Excellent worker in the heavy iron sites. Was really concedering nokta Impact. But there's too little footage of anyone swinging or desiring this model.
I've used mostly analog machines all my years of detecting and I can tell you that the majority of these finds that people are making with these new high tech machines I know I would have found the majority of them with my bounty hunter tracker lV,, lt's about location location location,, Enough said,,,
In my eyes the older analog machines are some of the top performers still. The older machines do better in the EMI and most of them are based on the same concepts of "dialing in" and stabilizing the detectors to different soils. Nowadays the machines have too many settings and features that make it difficult to tune into the soils. The added features on digital detectors take time to learn and just a whole lot of button pushing and not digging. The older machines are not waterproof and not durable enough for harsh terrain and the spare parts are almost impossible to find. Tesoro Lobo and Sabre are absolute beasts!! Location is almost everything nowadays. These new machines probably not that much better in performance than the machines we have now.
@@PaystreakSuperfreak Yeah Jeremy,, Tesoro made great analog machines,, The old man that ran the company was brilliant,,,
@@PaystreakSuperfreak are there people who repair the Tesoro’s still?
That is very true yes. My opinion is that people will still keep buying top of the line expensive detectors due to the delusion of obtaining extra depth to get the valuable find.
@@roz4747 The only guy I would know right now is Keith Willis from East Texas Detectors
I will be waiting for your tests on the Deus 2. I know we will get a no BS report. I would especially like to know if you think the new Deus 2 is that much better than the original deus that it would be worth upgrading to. Was thinking about getting the deus 2 but got a killer deal on an original deus.
Thank you so much Bill!! I have learned a lifetime of detecting skills from all of your videos on so many different machines. You are a true teacher, legend and "THE POINEER" of live dig videos. Your videos many years ago were invaluable information on the machines we were trying to master. One of my favorite videos you made a few years ago was with your grandson smacking coins in the totlot. Videos like that are frikn priceless man. Happy New Year Bill!!
@@PaystreakSuperfreak Awwwwww, thanks man.......;o) My videos are kind of boring but you get to see the vdi and sounds and live digs. I think your videos are awesome. Keep up the good work. Again, looking forward to some unbiased test. Thanks.
Simplex, Legend or Deus 2 for the beach and in the water?
I am not much of a water hunter!! All 3 are waterproof!!
I want to upgrade from my Simplex to the Legend not because it detects deeper or because it’s the newest, latest and greatest. It has a more precise notch and stability. The rest of the features are just added bonuses that are within my budget.
I've got an old Bounty hunter and it doesn't have the vdi numbers and you don't have to worry about emi and it goes deep. If I get another it'll probably be a simplex. 💖💯
I totally agree on several points. I almost got caught up in the legend hype. Though, I believe it will be a good machine, I already have a good machine, equinox. I thought that I need to fully understand the equinox before even thinking of trying to learn something new, and different. Also, just the other day digging I thought to myself, why would I really want to dig anymore than 8” anyway. And to that point, and you have more experience than me, how many targets do really get normally more than 6-8” deep max? Me, not many, so depth isn’t a huge concern . Thanks for your videos and input.
I still got 6 Tesoro's. Tesoro's are the only detectors that can tell a nickel from a square pulltab. When you swing your coil over the target, you roll the disc. knob forward, and the nickel will always go out before the square pull-tab will. And if it does, its a nickel nearly every time. I don't want to dig down a foot. First of all it makes a mess and second of all, its tiring and monotonous. I metal detect to relax and have fun, not to dig to China. The Vaquero can hit a quarter at one foot if after you have ground balanced it you turn the gb knob a quarter turn back to the negative and then jack up the threshold. Scannerguy did it on a video one time. and I have buried quarters that it would hit deep.
Scannerguy videos are my favorites. His rating system was the fairest I seen. Dirt fishing did some good comparisons as well.
@@DannyB-cs9vx Yes, they both did some excellent videos on the quality of different metal detectors. Haven't seen Scannerguy in a long time. Hope he's ok. He sounded just like Jesse Ventura the wrestler to me.
@@horseman528 Scannerguy 1968 is still around but seems to have lost interest in detectors. Last videos were on flashlights.
About 8 inches with my Anfibo 14
I somewhat agree with your point but also have to disagree on the bases that for example, brand “ X “ can air test at a maximum of 5 inches and brand “Y “ can test at a maximum of 7 inches, it’s reasonable to say that the “Y “ can detect deeper than “ X “.
Air tests do not put the detector under load. How the detector handles the ground is the real test. Minerals, wet ground, EMI, durability......
I have an Anfibio Multi and I do pretty well with it in terrible soil and heavy iron(At least I think I do well)… I will likely sell it an get the Legend because it’s seems to have less settings and is actually cheaper than the Anfibio. The Legend shouldn’t be a huge learning curve for me because I have used Nokta/Makro detectors for years. Can someone explain “hot soil” and what those numbers may be when ground balancing the Anfibio? I’m actually still learning the Anfibio an I always wonder if I should be in 5, 14, or 20 MHz in hot soil or heavy iron. I don’t get much time detecting so I usually go in 3 tone using 14Mhz. I always feel like I’m wasting time playing with settings I’m unfamiliar with in the field! Anyways… great video ,happy hunting , and happy new year!
Im not shocked its what id expect technology is always advancing and moving forward. You have to move with it.
Enjoyed this alot. What do you use to record vidoes on? The picture quality is amazing. I am thinking about trying The Legend and looking forward to seeing you use it and your feedback. Thanks for posting!
I use Gopro hero 7. I have a Legend ordered
Hi Jeremy, you are a real expert and I love the way you test metaldetectors so I have a question : I at the moment I have the anfibio (also had the simplex). Think the anfibio is a real chattery machine above 89 and other programs then 3-tone.
And of course the overload problem.
Does the legend have also the overload problem...? Can you tune the recovery speed separately from the gain?
Thank you for your inspiration
Thinking of selling the anfibio.
The Anfibio recovery speed is very slow above 89 gain and 3 tone is the most stable. The only settings I can use the Anfibio in my soil is 3 tone at 89 gain 20khz. The Anfibio is very much disabled by the overload tone. The Legend does not have the overload issue. The recovery speed being separate from gain is a huge advancement with the Legend. My opinion Multi frequency machines have a place and that is in wet sand. I do not use multi frequency on machines very often. The Legend has one big issue right now.....no 9" coil. The LG28(11") coil makes the Legend very unbalanced and awkward to swing around for more than a couple hours. The LG15(6") coil can only cover so much ground and is not quite deep enough for all around use. The Legend is still badass and you would like it very much compared to the Anfibio.
@@PaystreakSuperfreak thank you Jeremy. Think I will have to wait for the 9"coil
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The reason I’m getting the legend is the multi freq and a Im going to use it in water .
What's in your opinion is the best settings on the legend detector for coins
The best settings are the ones you have for the site. Every soil and site is different.
I have a White's v3i, Should I sell it, and get one of these just wanna know thoughts and opinions? Thanks
I hope you kept it!!
air tests are 100% bs for sure. what i do like to watch though , is a known well tested machine , like Deus . vs the Deus 2 . yes there will be people that set it up to fail by adjusting it etc. but equal settings , equal conditions . now we got most likely the most tested machine vs a brand new one , and if the D2 can match or beat it right out of the box, that tells me , this might be great , atleast not worse.
I don't think there will be big differences
Sir,
I'm new to metal detecting and been watching a lot of videos and now i'm more confused about it all. Sir, i want a metal detector that I can use in the park on the beach sand and wet sand but not in the water. I'm not going put 1 foot maybe in water.
I want to hunt mostly Jewelry and that's it. I know i'm new but I'm willing to learn the machine. I don't need all the bells and whistles. I want something that works and that I can grow with and have fun a long the way. I'm retired military and ready to have some fun metal detecting. Thank you sir.
By the way I live in South Carolina Dirt and sand. And I will be hunting hilton head and frappe island when i get my metal detecter. And some parks and schools around the house. Thanks
If you are new to metal detecting , the Nokta Simplex or Minelab Vanquish is a good start. Start cheap!! Deus machines are not for beginners. Happy hunting and good luck!!
I always thought air testing is a waste of time. Haven't had rain in months?....then a month or rain.....big difference. I detect in the woods often. Learned a lot doing that vs in a field
That's what I say. Time time time. Period.
I'm too broke to afford the Manticore, the price is stupid. I'm saving up for the Legend, not giving up on my Nox 600
I am too broke to replace the broken coils for my Equinox 800. Sure the Manticore may be new tech...but why so expensive? Other manufacturers, the price is going down.
@@PaystreakSuperfreak I agree wholeheartedly , glad someone finally agrees with me
Little off topic, my wife has metal in her back, rods and screws. The Simplex will hit the top, middle and bottom. but the pulse Dive will only hit at the top? I can't figure out why the different, or what different the metal may be. Is there a metal a Pulse Dive will not detect?
The Pulse dive struggles at low conductors like foil and small items!! The Simplex has no problems at all on any metal.
What other features are in the new update for the anfibio, is there any or is it just the overload?
The update did not do anything for performance whatsoever. The overload tone is still there.
Wow, I wonder what happened?
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This man knows his stuff, if buy a new machine you are almost back to square one as you need to 100's of hours of learning to use. I also note you are nearly paying double or more for these new machines. How much better are they to justify spending the cash?
I also don’t need it to scan that deep since 80% of what people find in these beeches is less than 6”
Jewelry is shallow on the soil too.
My view is the only way to compare machines is to use the same target undisturbed. Find a target, switch to a different machine, see what it says. Conditions need to be identical and noted. Both machines run in the same modes, (all metal, discrimination). There are meters that can measure and ID EMI. In Ham Radio we use a spectrograph to see activity at different frequencies.
One machine may be 10% better than another in a certain situation, but 20% worst in another. Most of finding is 90% luck. If your coil doesn't go over it, you are not finding it.
I watch videos about a guy with a $6,000 machine that says I found this gold nugget when I used other machines in this area, and they did not. Maybe the coil of the other machine did not go over it. Maybe he was daydreaming and missed the signal. Get the other machine and see if it does find the target before you dig it up. Maybe he would not sell as many $6,000 machines doing that.
I think the test beds that use soil are fair enough, but they only reflect that particular soil. One would need several test tubs. A detector good in salt, may not be good in mineralized. Standardized tests have not been created for comparing detectors. How does it do on soil with 5% iron? Nobody knows. We are at the mercy of happenstance and marketing.
Noone can answer this unless they have one.
I have learned so much from your good advice, when I started with my new machine "anfibio" I was all worried about depth now I'm more worried about separation. Like you said you can't find deep targets till you clean up all the shallow targets first, which makes so much sense. So now when I go out with the anfibio I hunt in three tone at 89 for faster recovery, I would like to drop the sensitivity level much lower but then I'm losing recovery speed! As for the overload I'm not having much trouble with that, the only time I get that is when I sweep over big item.
People who get to use the latest detectors will keep promoting them and praising them up. That way they get to test the newest again.
12” deep 1945 wheat penny with my simplex, deepest coin I’ve ever dug
I will put my Sovereign up against any of them on the Beach. :)
I like my at max, it loves silver
Most machines love high conductive coins.
It's emr (not emi). Electro magnetic Radiation. Not irradiation or any other i.