I think you will be pleased with the white version. If I was patient I would've waited for that one to be back in stock before purchasing. The piano black is a fingerprint and stain magnet!
That's good to hear, gives me some faith in this machine! Do you know if you're supposed to send it in to Jura at some point for like a deep clean/maintenance?
Having owned a Jura (pronounced Yura) for years, I was impressed by your detailed review. When my old machine conked out, I didn’t replace it, but the Z10 looks interesting. My drink of choice is the cappuccino, though, and I was never very satisfied with the foam. The glass milk containers are the best choice, though. I first bought the Jura milk cooler, but it was awkward to keep clean, and a waste of money, imo. Even with regular cleaning, the milk pipe should be replaced occasionally. I learned that when I bought the very nice stainless steel casing for it, but when I removed it to check out the pipe after many months, it looked pretty gross. I liked that you showed the height limitation for a cup or glass, as that will surprise some buyers. Luckily, I never had trouble with help from Jura by phone (back then it was to their New Jersey office, I believe.) It was always great service for years, until they apparently had some new hires that didn’t know what they were talking about. Finally, thank you for mentioning the extended warranty idea (which I didn’t have.) Great idea, especially for a pricey Z10. (Btw, just days ago, I read that an 0-ring failure, causing leaks and puddling on counters, is not uncommon on Juras. YT has a few videos on that.) For those of you who like cappuccinos/cappuccini, please let me know how you like the foam from the Z10. Ciao!
Thanks for watching! I agree, the glass containers are ideal. I was able to snag two of them for about $35/piece off of Amazon last year and they’ve served us well. Super easy to clean too, which is always a plus! I was able to find replacement milk pipes for cheap on Amazon as well, along with a cleaning brush small enough to fit in the tubes. What I like to do is swap the tubes around when doing the milk cleaning cycle, that way each tube gets cleaned with chemicals every few days. I really like the foam in the Z10, especially when using whole milk. My wife uses soy juice (😂) and that foams up nicely too, though not as well as whole milk, in my opinion.
For me the big pull to this machine is the auto grind size adjustment. Have you found that it is worth it? I mean, if you're going to go automatic, go automatic.
For sure, that’s what really sold me on it and I love that feature the most. And I agree, I would’ve gone with something much cheaper otherwise, like a Philips. It’s also kinda cool to see the different grinds up close in the pucks it spits out.
The Z10 is too large for my space and was considering the ENA8. The only thing about the ENA8 is the 10g max instead of the 16g max of the Z10. Would like anyone who has tested both machines to share their thoughts please.
@@mr.g702 is that the hopper size? I bought the Z10 and have been enjoying it. As long as you put good beans in, the coffee/espresso is delicious! I might have a need to buy the EN8 for a mobile application where I have less space.
It’s been 5 years now owning S8 and no issues. Perfect coffee machine. I’m gonna wait until they fix the bugs on this one, but definitely getting this for sure due to cold brew. Looks like a great all around coffee machine.
@@PriTeshla I love the S8. It’s bulletproof and easy to maintain. I’ve tried almost every brand of coffee bean, nothing beats Death Wish Dark Roast. Might be too strong to some, but it’s like a match made in heaven with S8. The only thing with the Z10 I wish the water container is not visible from the front, that design looks cheap but I’ll take that anytime for a cold brew option. I still want it lol.
The nice thing about the water container being easy to see is that it makes it easy to fill too! We never remove it, we just top it off with fresh water as needed. I will have to check out Death Wish, we’re stocked up on Lavazza … probably enough to last the rest of the year!
I keep them on there until the container is empty. At that point I’ll either wash manually using a tiny brush or I’ll use them on the cleaner and let them clean by the solution running through them
Bought one of these just a few weeks ago and considering returning it. The milk system doesn't seem to work correctly. Milk doesn't flow smoothly. It sputters and splatters all over the place. Tried check lines for air leaks and everything seems good. Waiting on Jura to respond to our email to address this. If not, we are returning it. Kinda disappointing for the amount of money this machine costs.
Yeah, that's not normal behavior. We see that sometimes with soy milk, but it's not a constant occurance and it's usually just for a couple of seconds. Almost never see sputting when using whole milk. While I hope Jura responds to your email and helps you find a resolution, my experience with their customer service left a lot to be desired.
The machine 'squeezes' the milk tube to slow the flow and heat the milk to a higher temp. I can't go above level 7 with oat milk as it is too thick and splutters. Perhaps try lowing the milk temp?
You can’t save by user but you can save multiple drinks and name them. So my wife has her favorite drink labeled with her name and I have mine labeled with my name.
I was really disappointed. I told the customer service rep that I was really worried about the quality of the machine if this tray is cracking after a couple of months and her response was “ok”. They deleted my review of the machine from their website, when I called them out on it they said it was deleted for being misleading. And then a week later a free replacement tray showed up in the mail without warning.
It also looks like it varies by country. I noticed that Jura Canada has an amazing post-warranty structure that caps the cost of any repairs based on the age of the machine. I asked if this was something they did in the US as I couldn't find anything on the site, and just got a generic "it can be repaired but a repair charge would apply" response, so it's likely there is nothing like that in place.
That’s quite unfortunate that they don’t extend that same level of service to the US and makes me all the more glad I purchased a 3rd party extended warranty.
I've gone back and forth on it but my R/O machine doesn't completely remove everything, I still get a reading on the built-in TDS meter. For me, the biggest thing is that by the time (or if) the R/O water caused damage to the machine, I will have probably saved enough on not buying Jura's water filters that I can just buy the latest machine at the time!
@samp1568 There’s concern that RO water is actually slightly acidic and will leach the metals from the inside of the machine, eventually causing damage.
hey bud quick question, kinda new to the whole automatic coffee machines, so do u guys just use one type of beans, and that does or expresso/latte and regular coffee? if so then do buy expresso beans or how does work?
We use all different kinds of beans. It’s a matter of just finding the right taste that you like and then trying to dial in the settings a bit. We’ve found that we prefer medium roast beans.
It’s not an issue. That’s what we usually do; my wife will make her soy milk coffee and then she’ll usually make me a whole milk coffee right afterwards. We don’t do a rinse or anything in between, the only time delay is the machine spitting out the coffee puck and reseting itself which is usually less than 20 seconds, and however long it takes for you to place the milk tube into your choice of milk container. Not sure if I answered your question, let me know if you meant something else!
It does a quick rinse when you turn it on and a bit of longer rinse when you turn it off. You cannot program it to turn on at a certain time, but the startup doesn't take very long anyways.
I don’t think you can choose set sizes like that unless you program a drink for each size. But it does make it a bit difficult to figure out how much you’re getting if you’re making a milk drink because that goes by number of seconds of milk and number of seconds of foam instead of ml or oz. I kind of understand why they did that since there’s no good way to know how much milk will come out if you’re not using a specific type of milk.
Thank you for sharing your video. Fellow z10 member here. Curious if you kept a setting guide for different beans from Costco. Specifically Costco because we go through a lot of coffee and small bags just wont cut it.
Unfortunately I did not keep a list of the settings, but the only thing I really ever had to change between beans was the grind size; the ideal grind size seems to vary between medium and fine. I think I will start keeping a guide now though, great idea! Btw when you switch to bigger bags, I recommend looking into an Airscape container if you don’t already have something similar.
It does an auto rinse about 8 minutes after use, but that’s not enough to really clean it. So at least once a day you should do the full clean with the chemical. I’ve forgotten to do it before, so the next day before use I took the frother off and cleaned it under hot water.
Very helpful review, thank you so much. I would have a question though. Can I have multiple versions of the same coffee on the short cut screen? For example the same coffee but in double and in iced and normal?
Im thinking of taking the plunge with the Z10, but coming from a manual system grinding my own beans etc. I realise the quality with the Z10 won't be quite up there I imagine? How do you think the drinks compare to barista type drinks from coffee shops etc?
Honestly the quality is really close to coffee shop levels. The auto adjusting grinder works really well, but if you’re used to manual grinding you’ll be able to tweak the settings even better for specific drink types.
Thanks, that's really helpful. I'll go for the white version on your recommendation methinks. I'm just baulking a bit at the cleaning costs! It seems once you buy into their ecosystem you are caught in their web of being a cash cow!@@PriTeshla
Thanks. Manual grinding has been driving me nuts. I change bean brands frequently, and forever altering grind levels to get a decent extraction rate. I've decided life is too short, and willing to make a small compromise for ease of use@@PriTeshla
Does this machine actually make a good espresso shot? My S8 doesn't seem t have the espresso nuances, its more like a strong coffee. Just wondered if the newest/greatest makes it any better?
I would say it’s a decent espresso shot, probably not much better than the S8. Although, supposedly they use a pulsed extraction technique that is different in this machine compared to previous. I typically make coffee drinks instead which it has been great for. I’ll post a short of it pulling a shot so you can see the color, creama, etc
We love it! We’ve made over 1,500 coffees since buying it almost a year ago, and we’re the only two people in the household! Some things to consider are that although the machine is very expensive, there will also be ongoing costs for the maintenance chemicals. You may want to get a 3rd party warranty as well, I went with Mulberry for that.
@@PriTeshla Thanks very much, I think we will take the plunge. The Jura cleaning costs look high but there seems to be much cheaper solutions. What beans do you use? Thanks again. It is really helpful.
@@PriTeshla I'm looking into Mulberry - I had no clue this was an option. Thank you. It appears as though they will only cover up to $2,500 / year. Still, that's a chunk of change in and of it self. - This video may have just made my decision easier. Thank you.
@ollydearden Glad I was able to help! Yes there are cheaper chemicals that can be used for sure, and occasionally you can find the Jura ones on Amazon for a decent price. We’ve tried close to 30 different beans and have settled on the Peruvian blend from Costco. Our absolute favorite is the “Black and White” by Tchibo but it’s not available in the USA.
@RaptorSCrew They might have changed the terms since my purchase because my contract states I’m covered for the full amount that I paid for the machine. They also introduced a new monthly service that gives you coverage on unlimited items and unlimited amounts for like $10/month.
Thanks for the video! Would you say the milk temperature gets hot enough? I know it's a subjective thing but if you pre warm the cup etc, how do you find the milk temp once a drink is prepared? Thank you ☺
That’s actually one of the things you can adjust! I’ve turned it down a little bit for my set drinks, but yes I would say the milk definitely gets hot enough. If you’d like I can take a temp reading of the hottest milk setting!
@@PriTeshla ah that sounds promising then! If you wouldn’t mind measuring the temperature of the milk at some point, that’d be super helpful. Thanks so much!
It cannot. Unfortunately the only way to turn the machine on is via the push-button power switch. I haven't tried putting it on a plug timer yet though, maybe that could work?
@@PriTeshla I’ve had one of the little SwitchBot “robots” on my old coffee machine, that’s worked really well for preheating and I had it set up to come on automatically when my alarm goes off… I guess I’ll try that again.
That is definitely a downside of this machine: you can’t brew into larger cups. A workaround would’ve been to keep the machine on an edge and remove the drip tray, but it can’t work without the drip tray installed.
It's nice to see a review from someone that's been daily driving it for a while. Just wondering if that new drip tray piece they sent you is their "aluminium white" or "diamond white" material? I was interested in piano black until i saw your review.
The new drip tray they sent me is aluminum looking. If they would've had the aluminum in stock when I wanted to buy the machine I definitely would have gone for that. The piano black just attracts fingerprints and you can see every stain from the milk and coffee spraying about.
@@PriTeshla yeah... I have a 12 year old black jura that has some piano black finishes and ... It looks nice when it's been freshly cleaned. Lol. Thanks for the advice, although I like black I'll be going with aluminum if I end up with a z10.
Yeah, a bit annoying but we’ve got a routine now. We let it clean at the end of the night and worry about dumping the pucks and drip tray in the morning. We started using Urex brand cleaning liquid and tablets. I compared the ingredients and they are similar to the Jura tabs and they seem to be working just as well at a significantly lower price.
@@PriTeshlathis is exactly what I was looking for in an espresso machine! My biggest problem is dialing in! I’m really interested in this machine now. Thank you!
Glad I could help! Let me know if you have any other questions or want to see videos of specific things about the machine. I’ve found the default settings to be pretty spot on for my tastes, I haven’t had made any grinding size adjustments!
Yes, it does have its pros and cons. We use this thing 5 to 8 times a day! The hardest part has been being able to consistently find coffee beans that we like. But would I buy this machine again? I’m not sure. My wife is the main coffee drinker and she sticks to her one drink and does not deviate. I like to try different ones but I mainly stick to my one drink too.
Agreed. The app seems like more of a gimmick than anything. The interface of the app has improved since I made this video though... I mostly use the app just to monitor the maintenance statuses.
Well! After watching this video I’m no longer interested in purchasing it! You pay so much money and you get crappy customer service? No thank you! Thanks for sharing
Purchased mine from Williams Sonoma and they are happy to assist you , but I find it very easy to use and it makes the most delicious Cappucinos and Americanos. It also looks great in the kitchen! Sorry you had a less than stellar experience.
@@PriTeshla managing and cleaning this machine doesn’t look any faster. There’s no special milk cleaning tablets daily procedure or scale buildup on a real machine.
Had just ordered a piano black version. Now cancelling and ordering the white version - thank you!!!
I think you will be pleased with the white version. If I was patient I would've waited for that one to be back in stock before purchasing. The piano black is a fingerprint and stain magnet!
You also get it with brushed aluminium and black alu. Less stain on that than the piano black. Front and top will then be aluminum.
I have a Jura S8 and love it. It’s 3 years old and has performed flawlessly.
That's good to hear, gives me some faith in this machine! Do you know if you're supposed to send it in to Jura at some point for like a deep clean/maintenance?
Having owned a Jura (pronounced Yura) for years, I was impressed by your detailed review. When my old machine conked out, I didn’t replace it, but the Z10 looks interesting. My drink of choice is the cappuccino, though, and I was never very satisfied with the foam. The glass milk containers are the best choice, though. I first bought the Jura milk cooler, but it was awkward to keep clean, and a waste of money, imo. Even with regular cleaning, the milk pipe should be replaced occasionally. I learned that when I bought the very nice stainless steel casing for it, but when I removed it to check out the pipe after many months, it looked pretty gross. I liked that you showed the height limitation for a cup or glass, as that will surprise some buyers. Luckily, I never had trouble with help from Jura by phone (back then it was to their New Jersey office, I believe.) It was always great service for years, until they apparently had some new hires that didn’t know what they were talking about. Finally, thank you for mentioning the extended warranty idea (which I didn’t have.) Great idea, especially for a pricey Z10. (Btw, just days ago, I read that an 0-ring failure, causing leaks and puddling on counters, is not uncommon on Juras. YT has a few videos on that.) For those of you who like cappuccinos/cappuccini, please let me know how you like the foam from the Z10. Ciao!
Thanks for watching! I agree, the glass containers are ideal. I was able to snag two of them for about $35/piece off of Amazon last year and they’ve served us well. Super easy to clean too, which is always a plus!
I was able to find replacement milk pipes for cheap on Amazon as well, along with a cleaning brush small enough to fit in the tubes. What I like to do is swap the tubes around when doing the milk cleaning cycle, that way each tube gets cleaned with chemicals every few days.
I really like the foam in the Z10, especially when using whole milk. My wife uses soy juice (😂) and that foams up nicely too, though not as well as whole milk, in my opinion.
@@PriTeshla Thank you for the feedback!
For me the big pull to this machine is the auto grind size adjustment. Have you found that it is worth it? I mean, if you're going to go automatic, go automatic.
For sure, that’s what really sold me on it and I love that feature the most. And I agree, I would’ve gone with something much cheaper otherwise, like a Philips.
It’s also kinda cool to see the different grinds up close in the pucks it spits out.
@@PriTeshla Thanks for the feedback. Looks like I'm getting the expensive one!
The Z10 is too large for my space and was considering the ENA8. The only thing about the ENA8 is the 10g max instead of the 16g max of the Z10. Would like anyone who has tested both machines to share their thoughts please.
@@mr.g702 is that the hopper size? I bought the Z10 and have been enjoying it. As long as you put good beans in, the coffee/espresso is delicious! I might have a need to buy the EN8 for a mobile application where I have less space.
@@KeithStrang, No, it is not the hopper size but the grinding size per serving.
It’s been 5 years now owning S8 and no issues. Perfect coffee machine. I’m gonna wait until they fix the bugs on this one, but definitely getting this for sure due to cold brew. Looks like a great all around coffee machine.
Do you like the S8? That’s the one I was considering before I bought the Z10, but overall I’m happy with my decision.
@@PriTeshla I love the S8. It’s bulletproof and easy to maintain. I’ve tried almost every brand of coffee bean, nothing beats Death Wish Dark Roast. Might be too strong to some, but it’s like a match made in heaven with S8. The only thing with the Z10 I wish the water container is not visible from the front, that design looks cheap but I’ll take that anytime for a cold brew option. I still want it lol.
The nice thing about the water container being easy to see is that it makes it easy to fill too! We never remove it, we just top it off with fresh water as needed.
I will have to check out Death Wish, we’re stocked up on Lavazza … probably enough to last the rest of the year!
@@PriTeshla Glad you have this amazing machine. I just discovered giga 10. Now it’s between this and giga 10 lol. I really like this one tho.
@@ixibladeixi2639where do you purchase this coffee bean? I live strong coffee.
Do you also clean the silicone milk hose after you make the latte? Or you just keep them with the milk container into the fridge?
I keep them on there until the container is empty. At that point I’ll either wash manually using a tiny brush or I’ll use them on the cleaner and let them clean by the solution running through them
Bought one of these just a few weeks ago and considering returning it. The milk system doesn't seem to work correctly. Milk doesn't flow smoothly. It sputters and splatters all over the place. Tried check lines for air leaks and everything seems good. Waiting on Jura to respond to our email to address this. If not, we are returning it. Kinda disappointing for the amount of money this machine costs.
Yeah, that's not normal behavior. We see that sometimes with soy milk, but it's not a constant occurance and it's usually just for a couple of seconds. Almost never see sputting when using whole milk. While I hope Jura responds to your email and helps you find a resolution, my experience with their customer service left a lot to be desired.
The machine 'squeezes' the milk tube to slow the flow and heat the milk to a higher temp. I can't go above level 7 with oat milk as it is too thick and splutters. Perhaps try lowing the milk temp?
Hi, can you save drinks to a user? I like strong coffee and the wife not so strong. Don’t want to change settings every time.
You can’t save by user but you can save multiple drinks and name them. So my wife has her favorite drink labeled with her name and I have mine labeled with my name.
Do you have to go through that milk cleaning process every time you have a milk based drink?
It does a self rinse automatically after 8 minutes, but the full out milk system clean with the chemical is supposed to be done once a day
I don’t feel particularly reassured by JURA’s after sales service now. Thanks for the upload.
I was really disappointed. I told the customer service rep that I was really worried about the quality of the machine if this tray is cracking after a couple of months and her response was “ok”.
They deleted my review of the machine from their website, when I called them out on it they said it was deleted for being misleading. And then a week later a free replacement tray showed up in the mail without warning.
It also looks like it varies by country. I noticed that Jura Canada has an amazing post-warranty structure that caps the cost of any repairs based on the age of the machine. I asked if this was something they did in the US as I couldn't find anything on the site, and just got a generic "it can be repaired but a repair charge would apply" response, so it's likely there is nothing like that in place.
That’s quite unfortunate that they don’t extend that same level of service to the US and makes me all the more glad I purchased a 3rd party extended warranty.
So I have an R/O system as well. JURA I thought told me you can’t use R/O water with this unit. Curious what your thoughts are.
I've gone back and forth on it but my R/O machine doesn't completely remove everything, I still get a reading on the built-in TDS meter. For me, the biggest thing is that by the time (or if) the R/O water caused damage to the machine, I will have probably saved enough on not buying Jura's water filters that I can just buy the latest machine at the time!
thats interesting
whats the rationale for not using r/O water?
@@samp1568 Not sure but I am using my R/O and so far no issues. I am also using the Jura filter.
@samp1568 There’s concern that RO water is actually slightly acidic and will leach the metals from the inside of the machine, eventually causing damage.
I've used R/O water in my Jura Z6 for six years now, machine is still going strong, no issues that I can see.
hey bud quick question, kinda new to the whole automatic coffee machines, so do u guys just use one type of beans, and that does or expresso/latte and regular coffee? if so then do buy expresso beans or how does work?
We use all different kinds of beans. It’s a matter of just finding the right taste that you like and then trying to dial in the settings a bit. We’ve found that we prefer medium roast beans.
What was the 3rd party warranty company you mentioned mate? I couldn't quite catch the name in the video.
Sorry about that. The company I got my warranty from is Mulberry
www.getmulberry.com/
How easy would you say it is to make two milk drinks in succession? That’s the only thing putting me off, not being able to make 2 in together.
It’s not an issue. That’s what we usually do; my wife will make her soy milk coffee and then she’ll usually make me a whole milk coffee right afterwards. We don’t do a rinse or anything in between, the only time delay is the machine spitting out the coffee puck and reseting itself which is usually less than 20 seconds, and however long it takes for you to place the milk tube into your choice of milk container.
Not sure if I answered your question, let me know if you meant something else!
How's the Z10 doing now? Still a good buy?
Still cranking out tasty coffee! We’re up to 1329 total preparations.
Does it rinse cycle when it gets turned on, or when it gets turned off? Also, can you program it to automatically turn on every day at a certain time?
It does a quick rinse when you turn it on and a bit of longer rinse when you turn it off. You cannot program it to turn on at a certain time, but the startup doesn't take very long anyways.
Do we know when will new version come? i bought E8 EB last year but would like to upgrade
Not sure. This version, the Z10, is pretty new. They don’t even have replacement parts available via the website yet!
How do you like the E8?
The Z10 is not going anywhere.
Coming from other machines I don't see the option to chose 8 10 12 16 ounces cup sizes
I don’t think you can choose set sizes like that unless you program a drink for each size.
But it does make it a bit difficult to figure out how much you’re getting if you’re making a milk drink because that goes by number of seconds of milk and number of seconds of foam instead of ml or oz.
I kind of understand why they did that since there’s no good way to know how much milk will come out if you’re not using a specific type of milk.
Can you please provide the name of the 3rd party with whom you purchased the warranty?
Mulberry
Hi, thank you very informative video. What is the name of the 3rd party insurance company?
I went with Mulberry. www.getmulberry.com
Thank you for sharing your video. Fellow z10 member here. Curious if you kept a setting guide for different beans from Costco. Specifically Costco because we go through a lot of coffee and small bags just wont cut it.
Unfortunately I did not keep a list of the settings, but the only thing I really ever had to change between beans was the grind size; the ideal grind size seems to vary between medium and fine.
I think I will start keeping a guide now though, great idea!
Btw when you switch to bigger bags, I recommend looking into an Airscape container if you don’t already have something similar.
Hi there. Do you really have to clean the milk frother after every use / every day? Thanks
It does an auto rinse about 8 minutes after use, but that’s not enough to really clean it. So at least once a day you should do the full clean with the chemical.
I’ve forgotten to do it before, so the next day before use I took the frother off and cleaned it under hot water.
@@PriTeshla Thank you
Very helpful review, thank you so much. I would have a question though. Can I have multiple versions of the same coffee on the short cut screen? For example the same coffee but in double and in iced and normal?
Yes you can! That's one of the things we really like about this machine, the screens (and coffees) are very customizable.
Im thinking of taking the plunge with the Z10, but coming from a manual system grinding my own beans etc. I realise the quality with the Z10 won't be quite up there I imagine? How do you think the drinks compare to barista type drinks from coffee shops etc?
Honestly the quality is really close to coffee shop levels. The auto adjusting grinder works really well, but if you’re used to manual grinding you’ll be able to tweak the settings even better for specific drink types.
Thanks, that's really helpful. I'll go for the white version on your recommendation methinks. I'm just baulking a bit at the cleaning costs! It seems once you buy into their ecosystem you are caught in their web of being a cash cow!@@PriTeshla
Thanks. Manual grinding has been driving me nuts. I change bean brands frequently, and forever altering grind levels to get a decent extraction rate. I've decided life is too short, and willing to make a small compromise for ease of use@@PriTeshla
Does this machine actually make a good espresso shot? My S8 doesn't seem t have the espresso nuances, its more like a strong coffee. Just wondered if the newest/greatest makes it any better?
I would say it’s a decent espresso shot, probably not much better than the S8. Although, supposedly they use a pulsed extraction technique that is different in this machine compared to previous. I typically make coffee drinks instead which it has been great for.
I’ll post a short of it pulling a shot so you can see the color, creama, etc
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Thanks, They do look good, just haven’t got one that tastes good.
Helpful overview of the machine. I notice the towel under the machine on the counter. Do you find it leaks? Is that why the towel is there?
He probably put the towel there so he can slide the machine in and out easily.
Towel is just to catch any coffee grounds or liquids as I’m pulling the drip tray out
(Also, my wife thinks it looks nicer this way 😂)
What is your verdict so far on the machine. Many thanks for your video.
We love it! We’ve made over 1,500 coffees since buying it almost a year ago, and we’re the only two people in the household!
Some things to consider are that although the machine is very expensive, there will also be ongoing costs for the maintenance chemicals. You may want to get a 3rd party warranty as well, I went with Mulberry for that.
@@PriTeshla Thanks very much, I think we will take the plunge. The Jura cleaning costs look high but there seems to be much cheaper solutions. What beans do you use? Thanks again. It is really helpful.
@@PriTeshla I'm looking into Mulberry - I had no clue this was an option. Thank you. It appears as though they will only cover up to $2,500 / year. Still, that's a chunk of change in and of it self. - This video may have just made my decision easier. Thank you.
@ollydearden Glad I was able to help! Yes there are cheaper chemicals that can be used for sure, and occasionally you can find the Jura ones on Amazon for a decent price. We’ve tried close to 30 different beans and have settled on the Peruvian blend from Costco. Our absolute favorite is the “Black and White” by Tchibo but it’s not available in the USA.
@RaptorSCrew They might have changed the terms since my purchase because my contract states I’m covered for the full amount that I paid for the machine. They also introduced a new monthly service that gives you coverage on unlimited items and unlimited amounts for like $10/month.
Thanks for the video! Would you say the milk temperature gets hot enough? I know it's a subjective thing but if you pre warm the cup etc, how do you find the milk temp once a drink is prepared? Thank you ☺
That’s actually one of the things you can adjust! I’ve turned it down a little bit for my set drinks, but yes I would say the milk definitely gets hot enough. If you’d like I can take a temp reading of the hottest milk setting!
@@PriTeshla ah that sounds promising then! If you wouldn’t mind measuring the temperature of the milk at some point, that’d be super helpful. Thanks so much!
@tompattison Here you go!
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BTW, can the app wake the machine up from standby mode?
It cannot. Unfortunately the only way to turn the machine on is via the push-button power switch. I haven't tried putting it on a plug timer yet though, maybe that could work?
@@PriTeshla I’ve had one of the little SwitchBot “robots” on my old coffee machine, that’s worked really well for preheating and I had it set up to come on automatically when my alarm goes off… I guess I’ll try that again.
Please keep me updated on how well that works for this machine!
It takes a minute or less for it to preheat. Hardly necessary for a timer.
It sucks that you have to hold a large glass under the spout during cold brew!
That is definitely a downside of this machine: you can’t brew into larger cups. A workaround would’ve been to keep the machine on an edge and remove the drip tray, but it can’t work without the drip tray installed.
It's nice to see a review from someone that's been daily driving it for a while. Just wondering if that new drip tray piece they sent you is their "aluminium white" or "diamond white" material? I was interested in piano black until i saw your review.
The new drip tray they sent me is aluminum looking. If they would've had the aluminum in stock when I wanted to buy the machine I definitely would have gone for that. The piano black just attracts fingerprints and you can see every stain from the milk and coffee spraying about.
@@PriTeshla yeah... I have a 12 year old black jura that has some piano black finishes and ... It looks nice when it's been freshly cleaned. Lol. Thanks for the advice, although I like black I'll be going with aluminum if I end up with a z10.
So if I make lattes every day, I have to go through that milk cleaning process with the tablets every day? That kinda sucks.
Yeah, a bit annoying but we’ve got a routine now. We let it clean at the end of the night and worry about dumping the pucks and drip tray in the morning.
We started using Urex brand cleaning liquid and tablets. I compared the ingredients and they are similar to the Jura tabs and they seem to be working just as well at a significantly lower price.
You don't have to, although bacteria will form inside the machine and get pretty gross and eventually get you sick.
What beans are you using?
Costco’s Peru beans. Unfortunately they were a limited edition thing and they didn’t have any when I went this weekend 😭
How much did u pay for it tho?
$3700 USD. Bought it directly on the Jura website.
This is a great review! Just a quick question, do you have to dial this machine in or does the machine do it automatically?
It has an automatic adjusting grinder, which was the biggest selling point for me!
@@PriTeshlathis is exactly what I was looking for in an espresso machine! My biggest problem is dialing in! I’m really interested in this machine now. Thank you!
Glad I could help! Let me know if you have any other questions or want to see videos of specific things about the machine. I’ve found the default settings to be pretty spot on for my tastes, I haven’t had made any grinding size adjustments!
Thank you so much.
sounds like this coffee machine has pro and con thing , though looks very interesting machine , sorry
Yes, it does have its pros and cons. We use this thing 5 to 8 times a day! The hardest part has been being able to consistently find coffee beans that we like. But would I buy this machine again? I’m not sure. My wife is the main coffee drinker and she sticks to her one drink and does not deviate. I like to try different ones but I mainly stick to my one drink too.
The app is crap. Not that it could be good. You have to be at the machine to put a glass underneath it so why use the app?
Agreed. The app seems like more of a gimmick than anything. The interface of the app has improved since I made this video though... I mostly use the app just to monitor the maintenance statuses.
Well! After watching this video I’m no longer interested in purchasing it! You pay so much money and you get crappy customer service? No thank you! Thanks for sharing
Definitely understandable! These things are not cheap!
Purchased mine from Williams Sonoma and they are happy to assist you , but I find it very easy to use and it makes the most delicious Cappucinos and Americanos. It also looks great in the kitchen! Sorry you had a less than stellar experience.
Better just to learn how to make real espresso drinks using a real espresso machine
Maybe, but ain’t nobody got time for that!
@@PriTeshla managing and cleaning this machine doesn’t look any faster. There’s no special milk cleaning tablets daily procedure or scale buildup on a real machine.
What about back flushing and cleaning steam wand etc. ?
The daily procedure on this is set and forget.
@@PriTeshla don’t need to back flush if you use a puck screen. Steam wand wipe is done while steaming milk takes absolutely no time or supplies.
Maybe when this thing breaks I’ll look into that then!