Time Stamps: 0:00 - Intro 1:08 - Scientology & the Aftermath show 2:06 - Debbie Cook is why Scientology doesn't sue anymore 7:57 - Debbie Cook's testimony against David Miscavige 12:40 - Debbie Cooks settlement with Scientology 18:27 - Debbie Cook's email that shook Scientology 39:35 - This email led to my family being destroyed 41:04 - Q&A - Did you share the email? 41:47 - Q&A - Debbie a bad seed? 43:24 - Q&A - Power in numbers 44:41 - Q&A - Debbie testifying 47:50 - Q&A - People leaving Scientology 48:47 - Q&A - Debbie Cook's position in Scientology 50:35 - Q&A - Aggressive fundraising is a huge button 52:02 - Q&A - Keeping people from escaping 53:47 - Q&A - The Purification Rundown 55:20 - Q&A - Debbie Cook was a true believer 58:40 - Q&A - Debbie's letter making people leave 59:16 - Q&A - Amy Scobee 1:00:52 - Q&A - Debbie Cook's NDA 1:03:20 - Q&A - When David Miscavige passes away 1:05:18 - Q&A - Do as I say, not as I do 1:08:21 - Q&A - Scientology & Jonestown 1:10:08 - Q&A - David Miscavige: The Purge 1:15:10 - Q&A - Davis Miscavige's lack of introspection
Have you seen that Emily Armstrong a Scientologist is the new singer for Linkin Park! It's well known Chester Bennington the former lead singer who unalived himself had trauma due to childhood abu$e and they honour him with this abomination. Look into that Aaron. I'm disgusted!
Something interesting about Debbie’s letter is that she referred to the “thousands of Scientologists” in the world. That was 2012. Weren’t there supposedly millions at that point??? Little Freudian slip there. 😂
Correct. it was always going to die. Hubz knew life, if not The Law, would finish him and his little ....experiment. Miscavages hungry eyes on the cash register and those with more nefarious aims had other plans though..
@domenicbell2834 well yeah, most cults die with the leader. However in a very literal way there wasn't supposed to be a next leader (singular). At the end of his life, Hubbard retired his own title (Admiral, I think), and promoted Pat and Annie Broeker as the first of a new class of leaders (plural) Loyal Officers. Miscavige then took power in a coup to become the new leader (singular).
The next leader of Scientology will make the subject a sub topic of #Infinitology because knowledge is infinite and #Scientology has become a restricted body of knowledge by those who don’t teach the basics, but focus on trying to destroy the scientific aspects of the field! What’s amazing is that the more these ex Sea Org Members attack the subject and the people promoting it, they are actually promoting LRH, Sea Org and the subject! Why attack a subject that has a goal of no war, no crime, no insanity? Seems like the Suppressives are really the Oppressive Overlords Overreacting to Operating Organizations that Overtly try to Overthrow Our Rights to Operate as OTs? 😅❤
IMO DM doesn’t care that the ‘organisation’ is shrinking, he cares about accumulating wealth and real estate so he’s got something to run away to when it all goes to shit. As well as being super rich right now.
excellent information! this was the disintegration of scn as it was. there was an exec structure. there were policies applied as best they knew how. then along comes a new era where RPF is rampant because exec structure is in RPF and all attempts to be “on policy “ is gone!!!! this information needs to be known again now for evaluation of IRS status again. ☺️
To say LRH "left us a complex communication structure" is like says a skunk just offers an aromatic effervescence. Now let's go back to the beginning..........failed science fiction writer saw fit to bring to us all Scientology.
Serge has plenty of awful things to say about Debbie Cook and how she treated kid auditors at Flag, like him. BUT that notwithstanding this definitely started an avalanche. What a shame she won't speak out more, but I feel she doesn't want to self incriminate, according to Serge I think? 💜
Where is Debbie Cook now? Would it be possible to interview her on one of the sptv channels, or does the nda prevent her from speaking out? (Do you think she would want to)
Aaron, we all have an idea…..If you still have Debbie’s original email, you need to find away to resend it to every member again. Do you think that you could make that happen? You’ve said before that you have active Scientology members that reach out to you under the radar. Can they get the current, or close to the current, member email list? Maybe Debbie’s original email has everyone’s email address in the to: box? Or, was everyone’s address m cc/bcc:? OMFG. Could imagine resending that email out to everyone again 😂😂😂 ☠️
If you listen to Mike R, Marc H even Marty when he was out; no one fought back because they were terrified they’d be put in the hole. They basically said “thank you sir, may I have another?” Which was preferred over the hole
I kind of don't blame her for not speaking out anymore. She said what she said. It made a HUGE dent. She probably went through hell for it. She got the money, went to another country, and is living a good life. If I were her, I'd just want to forget about it and not risk any more horrific legal battles. Could she do more? Maybe. But did she do a lot? I mean, there wouldn't be SPTV without her. There might not be the Aftermath show without her. Was it enough to make up for the wrong doing she might have done in her position? Not for me to say. But maybe. I wouldn't blame her for feeling like she's done all she feels up to doing.
QUESTION: what’s keeping David Miscavage to hire a Ghost writer and have them write OT levels 9 and 10? Beside the Lingo that can be gathered with an internal support, wouldn’t this convince the remaining Scientologists on the validity of his project? Pretty much as in South Park when they wanted Stan to continue LRH’s work…
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Time Stamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:08 - Scientology & the Aftermath show
2:06 - Debbie Cook is why Scientology doesn't sue anymore
7:57 - Debbie Cook's testimony against David Miscavige
12:40 - Debbie Cooks settlement with Scientology
18:27 - Debbie Cook's email that shook Scientology
39:35 - This email led to my family being destroyed
41:04 - Q&A - Did you share the email?
41:47 - Q&A - Debbie a bad seed?
43:24 - Q&A - Power in numbers
44:41 - Q&A - Debbie testifying
47:50 - Q&A - People leaving Scientology
48:47 - Q&A - Debbie Cook's position in Scientology
50:35 - Q&A - Aggressive fundraising is a huge button
52:02 - Q&A - Keeping people from escaping
53:47 - Q&A - The Purification Rundown
55:20 - Q&A - Debbie Cook was a true believer
58:40 - Q&A - Debbie's letter making people leave
59:16 - Q&A - Amy Scobee
1:00:52 - Q&A - Debbie Cook's NDA
1:03:20 - Q&A - When David Miscavige passes away
1:05:18 - Q&A - Do as I say, not as I do
1:08:21 - Q&A - Scientology & Jonestown
1:10:08 - Q&A - David Miscavige: The Purge
1:15:10 - Q&A - Davis Miscavige's lack of introspection
Oh this is easy, the Discovery that the defense lawyers would bring into court would be BRUTAL for the Cult.
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Have you seen that Emily Armstrong a Scientologist is the new singer for Linkin Park! It's well known Chester Bennington the former lead singer who unalived himself had trauma due to childhood abu$e and they honour him with this abomination. Look into that Aaron. I'm disgusted!
All of the lawsuits are clear examples of the Streisand effect
I wonder if Debbie Cook is still a believer after being out of COS for all these years. It would be interesting to know how she feels about it now.
I thought NDAs are null and void if laws were broken.
You mean, like, battery?
Something interesting about Debbie’s letter is that she referred to the “thousands of Scientologists” in the world. That was 2012. Weren’t there supposedly millions at that point??? Little Freudian slip there. 😂
Great point!
There was never supposed to be a “next” leader of Scientology.
Correct. it was always going to die. Hubz knew life, if not The Law, would finish him and his little ....experiment. Miscavages hungry eyes on the cash register and those with more nefarious aims had other plans though..
@domenicbell2834 well yeah, most cults die with the leader. However in a very literal way there wasn't supposed to be a next leader (singular). At the end of his life, Hubbard retired his own title (Admiral, I think), and promoted Pat and Annie Broeker as the first of a new class of leaders (plural) Loyal Officers. Miscavige then took power in a coup to become the new leader (singular).
The next leader of Scientology will make the subject a sub topic of #Infinitology because knowledge is infinite and #Scientology has become a restricted body of knowledge by those who don’t teach the basics, but focus on trying to destroy the scientific aspects of the field! What’s amazing is that the more these ex Sea Org Members attack the subject and the people promoting it, they are actually promoting LRH, Sea Org and the subject! Why attack a subject that has a goal of no war, no crime, no insanity? Seems like the Suppressives are really the Oppressive Overlords Overreacting to Operating Organizations that Overtly try to Overthrow Our Rights to Operate as OTs? 😅❤
IMO DM doesn’t care that the ‘organisation’ is shrinking, he cares about accumulating wealth and real estate so he’s got something to run away to when it all goes to shit. As well as being super rich right now.
Miscavich would have to testify if she had to testify and that judge was totally into her testimony
Awesome show!!! So informative. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
excellent information! this was the disintegration of scn as it was. there was an exec structure. there were policies applied as best they knew how. then along comes a new era where RPF is rampant because exec structure is in RPF and all attempts to be “on policy “ is gone!!!! this information needs to be known again now for evaluation of IRS status again. ☺️
"L Ron Hubbard really liked to shit on knitting" 🤣🤣🤣
She used the OG conman’s own words to shred the current conman.
Always learning from your podcasts.
To say LRH "left us a complex communication structure" is like says a skunk just offers an aromatic effervescence. Now let's go back to the beginning..........failed science fiction writer saw fit to bring to us all Scientology.
Good one
I couldn’t agree more.
They're almost as bad as Democrats
I'd appreciate shorter form content too - 10 to 20 minutes. Keep up the good work.
I will regularly be publishing clips from the longer videos on the second channel: youtube.com/@growingupinscientologyclips?si=bLg0HwUJw-XFOJiX
Serge has plenty of awful things to say about Debbie Cook and how she treated kid auditors at Flag, like him.
BUT that notwithstanding this definitely started an avalanche. What a shame she won't speak out more, but I feel she doesn't want to self incriminate, according to Serge I think? 💜
Very, very good especially what you said at the end of the stream- accurate 🥰
She has lots to say about the cult but nothing about the children she herself abused.
Hey Aaron. Great work you're doing spreading the word!
Question.. why couldn't Scientology/Muscavige be investigated based on Debbie's testimony?
Battle Creek Michigan Replay Crew here! ❤❤❤❤
what
First time I've heard of an Independent Scientologist..
You can’t suppress wisdom created by a wise Dom!
Where is Debbie Cook now? Would it be possible to interview her on one of the sptv channels, or does the nda prevent her from speaking out? (Do you think she would want to)
Never seen anything so evil.
Excellent video. You educated me...and made me hoot! Good work.
What would Scientology be like now if Miscavige had not taken over and stuck more closely to LRH?
It would probably be less draconian but still continued to fade
Oh Davey, you got some 'splaining to do....
This channel is stuck at 241k?! Nahhhh the fix is in
Aaron, we all have an idea…..If you still have Debbie’s original email, you need to find away to resend it to every member again. Do you think that you could make that happen? You’ve said before that you have active Scientology members that reach out to you under the radar. Can they get the current, or close to the current, member email list? Maybe Debbie’s original email has everyone’s email address in the to: box? Or, was everyone’s address m cc/bcc:?
OMFG. Could imagine resending that email out to everyone again 😂😂😂 ☠️
??? What do you mean when you said something about Scientologists paying premium fees to be audited by children?
Wasn't l Ron Hubbard a vilonet person
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I like how you ran in to her in a bar
I'd like to know if anyone fought David Miscavige back ?
If you listen to Mike R, Marc H even Marty when he was out; no one fought back because they were terrified they’d be put in the hole. They basically said “thank you sir, may I have another?” Which was preferred over the hole
I kind of don't blame her for not speaking out anymore. She said what she said. It made a HUGE dent. She probably went through hell for it. She got the money, went to another country, and is living a good life. If I were her, I'd just want to forget about it and not risk any more horrific legal battles. Could she do more? Maybe. But did she do a lot? I mean, there wouldn't be SPTV without her. There might not be the Aftermath show without her. Was it enough to make up for the wrong doing she might have done in her position? Not for me to say. But maybe. I wouldn't blame her for feeling like she's done all she feels up to doing.
Replay crew ❤
Also, there's nit as many IN as there once was❤
QUESTION: what’s keeping David Miscavage to hire a Ghost writer and have them write OT levels 9 and 10? Beside the Lingo that can be gathered with an internal support, wouldn’t this convince the remaining Scientologists on the validity of his project? Pretty much as in South Park when they wanted Stan to continue LRH’s work…
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