@@twistedpivoter2695 sheer wieght? Most spadoni weighted maximum 3kg, most of them about 2.4 kg, not really what i would consider very heavy. You're supposed to handle it like that for multiple opponents, but Achille Marozzo used it to duel. It's different styles.
I find myself coming back to this video from time to time. The flow of the movements and the birds in the background give it such a poetic vibe (so to speak, haha) that I can't get tired of watching it!
the whole goal of Lanskenetch or mercenaries "montante" was to occupy "SPACE" and within that 'space' it would be safe for you to exist in. A story to give you guys context: "Florence, Italia 1498. We were trying our best to cut down this Gate and open a retreat for my men, the Mercenaries and I. Countless waves of enemy were engaging the narrow streets and alley we were in But Golgotha Manello di Riviera, the Tallest and Meanest of the "Fieri Montante" , Stood in their way and none could pass. Between the wide Arcs and the thrusts of his Maximilian there was no space left for enemies to advance and even if they did the rest of the group would push them back into Golgotha's reach and that many men would die. At that moment i knew, that standing behind Golgotha as long as he stands, it was the safest place in the world"
Hi, would you mind sharing the source of this quote ? It's always good to have contemporary inputs on these weapons to get a better perspective about them, when teaching techniques. Thank you in advance !
So in chapter 9, how do I make that transition from cutting from the left to the Guardia to the right? I've figured out the opposite but I can't seem to get that movement down.
I wonder if there is some way to excercise theese, with the contact of the blade in some parts of the moves. Just for the purpoase to be able to check the sword alinement during those cuts, as to be able to ensure yourself, that those cuts dont end up flat.
Hi, great video. I am working on alfieri,too. I am struggling with the mulinello. because on the plates depicted the grip changes. furthermore he is speaking about ascending cuts. (at least in ken Mondschein translation) can you clarify how your mulinello reconstruction works?
And you're very good with that sword. Either its the swords or its also you. I got a big del tin sword... no blade taper so I can't pull off some of the cool FAST manuevers you can. But it helps with weight training... lol
+Xterminate13 I know that feel bro! :( I had to commision my sword "waster" to a local blacksmith because of my lack of resources, and he ended up giving me a 3.5kg 1m monstruosity that handles like a baseball bat. Not quite what I expected, but at least I can practice drills to some extent
These cuts look a like Longsword cuts where you follow through with the cut rather than stopping at "longpoint" (langort). Is it possible that Greatsword techniques evolved from Longsword?
Objectively false, and at this point, misinformation spread en-masse by certain “muh realism” tubers that havent ever trained or extensively studied these forms. You must know that turns and about-faces are for use in scenarios where you are being flanked and/or surrounded by multiple. Turning serves both as a check to an enemy position, as well as in some cases, to “wind” your starting swings up with much less effort, thus conserving stamina while continuing your assault. A turn on the heels into a step that then turns you to face initially is also the fastest possible way to retreat a meters length. you must use the reach of your blade like a shield to deter and survive. Tunnel visioning one enemy in a situation where you are being assailed by multiple is literally certain death. Respect and understand the purpose of a turn.
@@Senerith Ahm. I fight with zweihander myself. The hobby, you know. The guy on the screen frightens those, who attack, but that's all. All those moves are impressive, but... Never turn your back to the enemy. Really.
The enemy may choose to not just stand still in front of you to be cut down. He might maneuver or even have friends coming from several sides. Your understanding of actual combat is, I am sorry to say so bluntly, limited and romanticised. The Montante/Spadone/Zweihänder has two purposes; one is breaking up pike formations on the battlefield. And there you are right, best keep facing the enemy. The other is for bodyguards/champions of nobles, who has to be prepared to be ambushed/assailed from all sides by thugs, assassins or enemies. If you actually read the treatises, you will see these drills- and most other we have for those greatswords, focus on exactly that. Godinho even has a drill called "defending a girl", where the champion train moving around a girl kneeling under/inside the sword cuts. 16th century Italy and Iberian Peninsula were volatile and dangerous places with a lot of wars and a lot of schemes.
@@PalleRasmussen Yeah they are kinda like crowd control, and denying space technigues i feel. The user basicly creates absolute death zone around himself where everyone would think twice to step in to, and since the blade is already in momentum i can imagine skilled user can then cut very fast straight from the move if someone decides to step in.
@@lalli8152 I must say that with numeriorical superiority especially, and a short sword and good shield; I would not hesitate. I am used to facing spears and Daneaxes (actually I mostly use the spear), and with timing the guy with the long weapon is toast. However timing only comes with experience, so you have to be an experienced fighter to do it, which most are and were not. Think professional bodyguard with military background Vs thugs. Basically the same then and now. But if the assassin is also a pro, it is more difficult.
Such a beautiful style to watch, I had no idea such a massive weapon could be controlled with such grace.
It's Not that it can be controled with such Grace, it's litteraly the only way you can use it because of the sheer weight in the blade
@@twistedpivoter2695 sheer wieght? Most spadoni weighted maximum 3kg, most of them about 2.4 kg, not really what i would consider very heavy.
You're supposed to handle it like that for multiple opponents, but Achille Marozzo used it to duel. It's different styles.
@@kh3rb that might not be that heavy, but the leverage is still great.
Great fluidity and control you've got there I'm really impressed
I find myself coming back to this video from time to time. The flow of the movements and the birds in the background give it such a poetic vibe (so to speak, haha) that I can't get tired of watching it!
Dude, you did that whole thing gracefully.
Nice skills.
Finally someone working on Alfieri. This is a really good job and your interpretation is quite subtile regarding the text, I like it !
This vids so underappreciated. Awesome af.
These are fun to do with a single-handed sword as well, to promote liveliness in handling and familiarity in controlling the cuts.
These make Marvellous Fantasy Great Sword Wielding Notes
I'm trying to imagine Diego García de Paredes doing this on a bridge surrounded by french soldiers: AWESOME!
WOW! This is awesome! Great video and drills of such a large weapon!
3:24 god damn it, whirl cut like a witcher :) .
Fantastic demonstration of Swordsmanship!
the whole goal of Lanskenetch or mercenaries "montante" was to occupy "SPACE" and within that 'space' it would be safe for you to exist in.
A story to give you guys context:
"Florence, Italia 1498. We were trying our best to cut down this Gate and open a retreat for my men, the Mercenaries and I. Countless waves of enemy were engaging the narrow streets and alley we were in But Golgotha Manello di Riviera, the Tallest and Meanest of the "Fieri Montante" , Stood in their way and none could pass.
Between the wide Arcs and the thrusts of his Maximilian there was no space left for enemies to advance and even if they did the rest of the group would push them back into Golgotha's reach and that many men would die. At that moment i knew, that standing behind Golgotha as long as he stands, it was the safest place in the world"
Hi, would you mind sharing the source of this quote ? It's always good to have contemporary inputs on these weapons to get a better perspective about them, when teaching techniques. Thank you in advance !
You should wirte a training book. Looks like an great workout.And Cardio-training.
Where's the point of balance on that particular sword? How far in front of the cross guard?
3.5" from the cross.
Good moves. Learning these manuevers helps tremendously with reaction time.
Thank you for your excellent demonstration and teaching!
Where did you get your Spadone? I'm having difficulty looking for vendors
Bryan Larkin It's the A&A montante trainer, but with the spadone trainer's blade and custom quillions.
How do you interpret the one unusual figure with the left hand forward?
So in chapter 9, how do I make that transition from cutting from the left to the Guardia to the right? I've figured out the opposite but I can't seem to get that movement down.
Their needs too be a school like this in Tampa, FL! Make it happen!!!!
I wonder if there is some way to excercise theese, with the contact of the blade in some parts of the moves. Just for the purpoase to be able to check the sword alinement during those cuts, as to be able to ensure yourself, that those cuts dont end up flat.
Cause CUT doesnt equal SWING... :/
He turns combat into an art😍
The footwork is very similar to the hungar forms I learned.
Hi, great video. I am working on alfieri,too. I am struggling with the mulinello. because on the plates depicted the grip changes. furthermore he is speaking about ascending cuts. (at least in ken Mondschein translation) can you clarify how your mulinello reconstruction works?
Hello! excelent videos. ¿do you train in present days?
That is some impressive handling!
How much does the sword he's using weigh?
Montante/Spadone/Zweihänder usually weighs 2,5 - 4 kg roughly. The 4 kg are the 180+ cm ones
Outstanding. Thank you.
Very nice.
What's the difference between a spadone and a montanto?
Gnereally speaking none. Spadone is Italian for Montante. Though Spadone can also just mean sword....its confysing as you might guess.
The name. Also called Zweihänder or even Two-handed Sword
Any new update?
And you're very good with that sword. Either its the swords or its also you. I got a big del tin sword... no blade taper so I can't pull off some of the cool FAST manuevers you can. But it helps with weight training... lol
+Xterminate13 I know that feel bro! :( I had to commision my sword "waster" to a local blacksmith because of my lack of resources, and he ended up giving me a 3.5kg 1m monstruosity that handles like a baseball bat. Not quite what I expected, but at least I can practice drills to some extent
5:00 Spadone molinello in a narrow street
this sword makes me proud of being italian, wi want one and master it so bad!
Art of Movement.
The sword can only leave a true line of travel, with your help!🤔
The sword is the known, you are the unknown, now make the adjustments!
0:28 Witcher 1 strong sword style.
thanks for noting! In fact, there is a whole lot of idiots (sorry) stating that W1 style is unrealistic :)
These cuts look a like Longsword cuts where you follow through with the cut rather than stopping at "longpoint" (langort). Is it possible that Greatsword techniques evolved from Longsword?
More than likely. The sword itself arose when they made the longsword bigger in essence
Her: He is probably thinking about other girls.
Him:
Spadone: How to Become a Human Blender.
Ahaahah half Conan and half a ninja....
Don't. Ever. Turn your back to the enemy. Never.
Objectively false, and at this point, misinformation spread en-masse by certain “muh realism” tubers that havent ever trained or extensively studied these forms.
You must know that turns and about-faces are for use in scenarios where you are being flanked and/or surrounded by multiple. Turning serves both as a check to an enemy position, as well as in some cases, to “wind” your starting swings up with much less effort, thus conserving stamina while continuing your assault. A turn on the heels into a step that then turns you to face initially is also the fastest possible way to retreat a meters length. you must use the reach of your blade like a shield to deter and survive. Tunnel visioning one enemy in a situation where you are being assailed by multiple is literally certain death. Respect and understand the purpose of a turn.
@@Senerith Ahm. I fight with zweihander myself. The hobby, you know. The guy on the screen frightens those, who attack, but that's all. All those moves are impressive, but... Never turn your back to the enemy. Really.
The enemy may choose to not just stand still in front of you to be cut down. He might maneuver or even have friends coming from several sides. Your understanding of actual combat is, I am sorry to say so bluntly, limited and romanticised.
The Montante/Spadone/Zweihänder has two purposes; one is breaking up pike formations on the battlefield. And there you are right, best keep facing the enemy. The other is for bodyguards/champions of nobles, who has to be prepared to be ambushed/assailed from all sides by thugs, assassins or enemies. If you actually read the treatises, you will see these drills- and most other we have for those greatswords, focus on exactly that. Godinho even has a drill called "defending a girl", where the champion train moving around a girl kneeling under/inside the sword cuts.
16th century Italy and Iberian Peninsula were volatile and dangerous places with a lot of wars and a lot of schemes.
@@PalleRasmussen Yeah they are kinda like crowd control, and denying space technigues i feel. The user basicly creates absolute death zone around himself where everyone would think twice to step in to, and since the blade is already in momentum i can imagine skilled user can then cut very fast straight from the move if someone decides to step in.
@@lalli8152 I must say that with numeriorical superiority especially, and a short sword and good shield; I would not hesitate. I am used to facing spears and Daneaxes (actually I mostly use the spear), and with timing the guy with the long weapon is toast. However timing only comes with experience, so you have to be an experienced fighter to do it, which most are and were not.
Think professional bodyguard with military background Vs thugs. Basically the same then and now. But if the assassin is also a pro, it is more difficult.