Joe Rogan and Jocko Willink talk about the role of the military, the Vietnam War, and the harsh realities of war. Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #962.
I'd like to see Dakota Meyer on the podcast with Joe. Have you seen Jocko's podcast with Dakota Meyer? I've listened to/watched it numerous times and it's the most emotional must listen podcast that everyone should listen to at least once.
@@liamstanley6719 I think it's just the overall story of what Dakota Meyer went thru, and how emotional both he and Jocko were reliving everything. It's just such a incredible and inspiring true story.
@@Jin_Kai That's awesome. Both Dakota and Kyle are pretty damn inspiring dudes, I can't imagine what it must have been like to meet them. Each went thru their own hell and we owe them, and everyone who serves to protect this country a tremendous amount of gratitude. I heard Marcus Luttrell say "Let's make sure the hell our soldiers deal with every day isn't the same hell they come home to" and it's so true. Thank you for your service!!
The reality of war is that I was sent to a country that didn't attack us 2 different times. It was scary, intense, boring and can't be adequately explained to people who haven't experienced it. It fucked me up and yet I miss it. You had a purpose and life was simple. Keep each other alive. Rarely saw the enemy. Ied's did most of the killings. It came down to luck surviving the explosions. Where you were sitting. How powerful it was. It was out of your hands. War is fucking brutal and dehumanizing.
There are times I am proud of my service and experiences, and times since I've been out that I don't agree with. Foremost, left the war with my conscience. Doesn't make living with decisions any easier after the fact. December will make 14 years since I've been out. Definitely my wonder years. Good friends, my body wasn't broke, and I had a pretty cool job. Over the years and even getting out, I saw the BS when it was being woven. Looking back, the regrets I have being sent to fight based off lies and agendas. That was Iraq anyway.
angry_z_rider you can be an infantryman (btw if you’re not an infantryman you’re a pog) and be in an ao like he is describing. It pretty much just comes down to the ao and the mission.
Yes, an accurate account of war. US soldiers definitely don't exploit civilians through rape and humiliation... Willink would defo speak up if that was happening wouldn't he?
My good friend served in Afghanistan/Iraq . He feels disgusted when he sees people at home pushing for wars when they would never go themselves or send one of their own.
@Still Sidda just because his perspective is different from yours doesn’t make him disgusting...why push for a war that you’re not gonna volunteer your life to🤔
@Still Sidda He is not disgusting. He joined the military for a few different reasons one being education but he was prepared to serve for the right reasons. But his experience has taught him that war is not a joke. It has serious repercussions. Also he realized that the countries we are invading pose no threat and he was nothing more than a pawn.
awesome that he brought up tarawa, its exactly what i thought when they talked about showing coffins. it was shown to fdr and said him, we wont show this part and fdr very honorably said 'yes, you have to show it, the people have to see it"
@@hamzasiyam - Yes, the moniker criminal and civilian are not mutually exclusive. In fact, the distinction between defense personnel, and everyone else is one that applies to our own social infrastructure, for all intents and purposes, there were nothing but civilians in Iraq, completely innocent civilians, slightly innocent civilians, downright criminal civilians, evil civilians, insane civilians, all kinds of civilians.
@@Jack-yq6ui You are more correct more then anyone else understands. The only Uniforms after 5/1/03 was ours. It was a terrible place to be and I don't miss it at all!
What an excellent discussion, this was. You said it, Mr. Willink. I salute you, for your sacrifices and your Selfless Service, to our great Republic. As a combat veteran, I am in complete, and total agreement with you. Be well and be whole. Very Respectfully, Mr. Shepherd, U.S. Army (Active), (Ret.), OEF-OIF Combat Veteran, 2nd Plt., 'Assassin' CO, 3-15 INF, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division
What a discussion. Awesome. If everyone operated at this level of contemplation it would unquestionably be a better world ,not perfect, never perfect, but better.
Iraq was a huge failure. The US didn’t understand Iraqi culture and its religious conflicts between different sects. Which led to the distrust and hatred from the population
That's usually how it worked. Have you ever seen Generation Kill, where they kill some insurgents, and find their passports which show they were college students who came from Syria AFTER the invasion to fight the occupiers. Anyway the war in Iraq was so fucking stupid. It also caused the Afghan war to go on way longer cause we had the Yaliban beaten, put the Northern Alliance in place and installed Karzi, but then before we could finish we attacked Iraq and then that one civilian overseer made the dumbest decision to fire the army and Iraqi security forces, not stop the looting snd destroy the social services infrastructure. That's when the insurgency really started.
The Revolutionary War of the 1700's was the first official war where Americans used guerrilla warfare. It was the primary war fighting strategy used to defeat the Redcoats.
For very long time there is no living American with memory of war on their doorsteps. That's why Americans are so willing to send their soldiers on other side of world.
WilliamE216 yeah but sometimes ur politicians send ur soldiers into places that don’t even need that much help and just ruin the country because the people of those countries start to see ur military as a hostile force
The robots from the rich countries will fight people from the poor countries, and potentially, protesters from their own countries. The idea that it will be sanitized robots fighting robots is highly idealistic. Having said that, this Jocko is pretty awesome. I agree with almost everything he says.
Ya just a good time full of racism and inequality in America and hundreds of thousands of young men dying at war because some ass hole was trying to engulf it in further tyranny...it was a grand time.
Between Active duty and Active Reserves, I put in 31 years and at 73 years old I would go in a heartbeat, Never wanted to be anything other than a platoon SSG.
All the people that I've met in my life that have been through war say the same thing as Jocko. We need to think long and hard before going.....but once we do it has to be all in, and we should be prepared for the ugliness. One of the worst moves the U.S. ever made was withdrawing from Beirut in '83 after the barracks got bombed and those 200 Marines were killed. It emboldened the terrorists into thinking the U.S. will cut and run if you deal them a large enough blow. If you chose to use the military for the right reasons then it makes it easier to stay....cause your there for a good reason.
People give the French a lot grief about surrendering in 1940. However, in 1983 The French Foreign Legion Barracks was hit at the the same time as the USMC Barracks. The French did strike back. They launched an air strike and destroyed the facility that trained the terrorists attackers. US Navy SEALs did the Bomb Damage Assessment for the French.
If the government believe there is a need to go to war then fair enough. But you have to be transparent with people, otherwise you end up with situations like Vietnam.
Robots fighting Robots... or Robots fighting people who don't have good Robots. This is real - Terminator isn't just a film, Terminator is going to be reality. Love these kind of pod casts JR. You need more of these, thank you.
politicans have a connection with a company that either gave him or her campaign contributions or other connections in the political game. At the sametime, protayed to the american people, whether fake or not 9/11 seemed like a osama led attack, otherwise romantized films like american sniper wouldnt exist, some people truly cared. People cared, their hatred was directed to the middle east and people fought bravely, eitherway, youd the same if america had the motive like you said
Youll just never know the true motive, there was hitler, but we took all his greatest scientists that werent too mainstream in the germany socialist culture. Spoils of war? Or a cease of oppurtunity in intelligence and technology. I think jockos point is overall, war is a tragic thing for any reason and when a country puts it agenda clear for war it should just go into total war mode, def con 5. Declaring war is saying im going to kill you, so is my people, for what we believe in and what we think our country and other countries should consider or take in as.
You have a terrible understanding of why me and my bothers and sisters go to war. Its not about oil money. Smh. I'll put it like this, if your neighbor down the street had the ability to kill you and your loved ones while at the same time he's making honest threats to harm you than what would have to happen for you to take action? Would you wait until he attacked you or your family? If so than its to late. Kill or be killed. These countries we are at war with have the abilities to do great bodily harm to us and have made plenty threats.
@Timothy, If that's your mindset, there are many things in life, you don't understand. There is literally no country in the world that can endanger or harm the United States and tbh there is no country in the world that really wants to do this. Especially not the countries you went to was with. Iraq had never the military and economic power to endanger the USA neither had Afghanistan. Sure, there was 9/11 but that was made by a terrorist group and not by a government. Considering that the Taliban were willing to give bin laden up under certain conditions, the afghanistan war was just needless.
War must be fought by and witnessed by a whole country together,… during WW2 every citizen thought it was their responsibility to win the war at all costs
And in WW2 we were fighting an existential threat to western civilization in the form of a genocidal fascist regime with ambitions of global domination that they could actually follow through on if left unchecked In the modern day we’re running around in the desert shooting at brown people, and they shoot back with guns that we sold them 30 years ago They’re not comparable at all
when i think in robot soldiers i remember the robots from the blade runner OVA, when the robots realize that they are fighting a war that they didnt want to
Hi Joe - it would be great if you could interview Brad Colbert or Nathaniel Flick, the army rangers from generation kill, I always felt that there was a lot left untold about thier time in Afganistan and Iraq.
You know what I noticed? Basic training, infantry training, advanced infantry training, etc. It was the same 5-10 mkves , over and over and over again. Then I go to war. Some of it applied, a LOT of it didn't . Get back to the states, same training as before without any consideration of what war actually looked like
chris coleman what does youre statement have anything to do with what i said? If you think "the bankers" sit around at a table all day an just think of wars to start then you obviously never took a civics class in your life because they have no authority whatsoever to say who goes to war
Young men are attracted to war. There’s a struggle for males to identify as the protector and provider. And war is the manliest thing you can do. Even I know this and would still sign up the day England goes to war.
'*"Kind-hearted people might of course think there was some ingenious way to disarm or defeat the enemy without too much bloodshed, and might imagine this is the true goal of the art of war. Pleasant as it sounds, it is a fallacy that must be exposed: War is a dangerous business where mistakes that come from kindness are the very worst."* ~ Carl von Clausewitz
I wouldn’t say always. There will come a day where robots will spill the blood of civilians and the only counter is other robots and EMP blasts and explosive weapons systems. Will it happen in our lifetime? I doubt it. But there will come a day.
One of the reasons for the loss in Vietnam was because the Military kept rotating the officers every 6 months or so to make them more competitive for promotion.
When your federal head declares war on a nation they have spoken for your entire nation. Therefore every man woman and child has declared war on the opposing nation even if they had no say. When the Colonies declared war in the American revolution they were speaking on behalf of all Americans even if they didn’t want it.
How do you feel about the Bosnian Genocide, or North Korea invading South Korea to forcibly unify them in 1950, or Somalia in 1993, or ISIS, or Saddam invading Kuwait, or Saddam gassing Kurdish people, or what about the 1/3rd of Cambodians killed by their communist dictator?
But Vietnam was not about freedom. The South Vietnam people did not support their gov. The french were there for the rubber. And we went there to support the steeling of the rubber. So often war is about taking what we want.
damn man, military is scary. Only looking in his eyes scares the shit out of me. This is the type of guy that my friend once painted the pic of another military man as "If he received a command He would literally tear you apart in half in few seconds"
To me there should be civilian oversight, when U.S. troops rape and murder civilians in cold blood. There is a big difference between accidentally shooting a civilian during crossfire or a stray bomb than indiscriminately killing and raping. Which was just the kind of things happening in Vietnam. I think a lot of people understand shit happens and the wrong people die in war. But there should be no excuse for U.S. troops committing war crimes.
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Please invite more millitary people on your show.
I'd like to see Dakota Meyer on the podcast with Joe. Have you seen Jocko's podcast with Dakota Meyer? I've listened to/watched it numerous times and it's the most emotional must listen podcast that everyone should listen to at least once.
@@peterhayes4990 what makes it must watch?
@@liamstanley6719 I think it's just the overall story of what Dakota Meyer went thru, and how emotional both he and Jocko were reliving everything. It's just such a incredible and inspiring true story.
@@peterhayes4990 i met him at my last Marine Corps Ball, dudes pretty cool, not as cool as kyle carpenter.
@@Jin_Kai That's awesome. Both Dakota and Kyle are pretty damn inspiring dudes, I can't imagine what it must have been like to meet them. Each went thru their own hell and we owe them, and everyone who serves to protect this country a tremendous amount of gratitude. I heard Marcus Luttrell say "Let's make sure the hell our soldiers deal with every day isn't the same hell they come home to" and it's so true. Thank you for your service!!
The reality of war is that I was sent to a country that didn't attack us 2 different times. It was scary, intense, boring and can't be adequately explained to people who haven't experienced it. It fucked me up and yet I miss it. You had a purpose and life was simple. Keep each other alive. Rarely saw the enemy. Ied's did most of the killings. It came down to luck surviving the explosions. Where you were sitting. How powerful it was. It was out of your hands. War is fucking brutal and dehumanizing.
26michaeluk that's nuts. One wrong step
But yet strangely peaceful, simple and not as chaotic as the "civilized world"
There are times I am proud of my service and experiences, and times since I've been out that I don't agree with. Foremost, left the war with my conscience. Doesn't make living with decisions any easier after the fact. December will make 14 years since I've been out. Definitely my wonder years. Good friends, my body wasn't broke, and I had a pretty cool job. Over the years and even getting out, I saw the BS when it was being woven. Looking back, the regrets I have being sent to fight based off lies and agendas. That was Iraq anyway.
Sounds like a POG response to me.
angry_z_rider you can be an infantryman (btw if you’re not an infantryman you’re a pog) and be in an ao like he is describing. It pretty much just comes down to the ao and the mission.
I like hearing about war from someone who's experienced it.
Experience these nuts nigga
@@ThejeffJr8 calm down nigga let the adults talk
I heard it from my dad who fought in WW2.
Yes, an accurate account of war. US soldiers definitely don't exploit civilians through rape and humiliation... Willink would defo speak up if that was happening wouldn't he?
@@boorhaave5880 ur telling me that actually happens? 🥺
My good friend served in Afghanistan/Iraq . He feels disgusted when he sees people at home pushing for wars when they would never go themselves or send one of their own.
@Still Sidda just because his perspective is different from yours doesn’t make him disgusting...why push for a war that you’re not gonna volunteer your life to🤔
@Still Sidda He is not disgusting. He joined the military for a few different reasons one being education but he was prepared to serve for the right reasons. But his experience has taught him that war is not a joke. It has serious repercussions. Also he realized that the countries we are invading pose no threat and he was nothing more than a pawn.
@Still Sidda worst take I’ve ever heard
Jocko is like an upgraded version of Tito Ortiz
Like +9999 intelligence
Tito Ortiz with a mod chip 🤣
Lmfaoooo
Lol... he's much more than that
So true 😂😂😂😂😂
awesome that he brought up tarawa, its exactly what i thought when they talked about showing coffins. it was shown to fdr and said him, we wont show this part and fdr very honorably said 'yes, you have to show it, the people have to see it"
The drums of war are beating once again.
According to the news and nothing else
Alex Murphy The drums of war are constantly beating ur just a little too far to hear them.
When did they ever stop beating?
Joe needs to interview Donny O’Malley already
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@@tristanramos593 very fucking true
My great uncle was on Guadalcanal, Tarawa, and was a casualty on Bougainville, luckily I met him before he passed but I was so young R.I.P
True Patriot 🙏🙏 💯
Bougainville..... Hell on earth... R.i.p
I can listen to jocko talk all day man. He’s such a badass lol
These are the conversations that I love. Real, from the heart. No candy-coated bull.
Jocko has a look in his eye where he has killed and will kill.
Yeah no shit Sherlock.
That's his exact job
@@hamzasiyam - Yes, the moniker criminal and civilian are not mutually exclusive. In fact, the distinction between defense personnel, and everyone else is one that applies to our own social infrastructure, for all intents and purposes, there were nothing but civilians in Iraq, completely innocent civilians, slightly innocent civilians, downright criminal civilians, evil civilians, insane civilians, all kinds of civilians.
@@Jack-yq6ui You are more correct more then anyone else understands. The only Uniforms after 5/1/03 was ours. It was a terrible place to be and I don't miss it at all!
Lmao just a dude that started fun fights in Iraq cause he was given the green light to do bad things.
Alot of military guys are pro military action all the time. Love how real jocko is about it. It's awful but SOMETIMES necessary.
Exactly
What an excellent discussion, this was.
You said it, Mr. Willink. I salute you, for your
sacrifices and your Selfless Service, to our great
Republic. As a combat veteran, I am in complete,
and total agreement with you. Be well and be whole.
Very Respectfully,
Mr. Shepherd,
U.S. Army (Active), (Ret.),
OEF-OIF Combat Veteran,
2nd Plt., 'Assassin' CO, 3-15 INF,
2nd Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division
good shit i salute you
Tf
Gaaaaaaaaaay
Call of duty modern warfare 3 hahahahaha
DAMN! My only compliant was it was too short, gotta hear the full interview!
Jocko Is The Man!
Great interview! This guys a class act.
What a discussion. Awesome. If everyone operated at this level of contemplation it would unquestionably be a better world ,not perfect, never perfect, but better.
Great words thanks
As a ex commando Uk 25 Yrs service Love this guy and would of been at his shoulder
Iraq was a huge failure. The US didn’t understand Iraqi culture and its religious conflicts between different sects. Which led to the distrust and hatred from the population
Vitnam was the first war which wasn't so much about capturing territory, but rather about kill counts. It was a search and destroy war.
That's usually how it worked. Have you ever seen Generation Kill, where they kill some insurgents, and find their passports which show they were college students who came from Syria AFTER the invasion to fight the occupiers. Anyway the war in Iraq was so fucking stupid. It also caused the Afghan war to go on way longer cause we had the Yaliban beaten, put the Northern Alliance in place and installed Karzi, but then before we could finish we attacked Iraq and then that one civilian overseer made the dumbest decision to fire the army and Iraqi security forces, not stop the looting snd destroy the social services infrastructure. That's when the insurgency really started.
You need to have Omar "crispy" avila on here, he has an amazing story.
The Revolutionary War of the 1700's was the first official war where Americans used guerrilla warfare. It was the primary war fighting strategy used to defeat the Redcoats.
That's not actually true there were many line battles that occured
@@Prometheus7272 guerilla warfare was used more.
@@nolanfrazier3482 Not true, but whatever
"It is well that war is so terrible, otherwise we should grow too fond of it".
-Robert E. Lee
Tell that to the military industrial complex.
Jocko is AWESOME
For very long time there is no living American with memory of war on their doorsteps. That's why Americans are so willing to send their soldiers on other side of world.
WilliamE216 that’s the issue and we’re more problematic then resourceful.
WilliamE216 yeah but sometimes ur politicians send ur soldiers into places that don’t even need that much help and just ruin the country because the people of those countries start to see ur military as a hostile force
That conversation got crazy at the end!! Leaves me wondering if I'm a robot
The robots from the rich countries will fight people from the poor countries, and potentially, protesters from their own countries. The idea that it will be sanitized robots fighting robots is highly idealistic. Having said that, this Jocko is pretty awesome. I agree with almost everything he says.
Bro I have a lot of respect for people in the army. I’m just watching anime and stuff in my room lmao couldn’t do it without guys like jocko
I wish I was born during WW2, seemed like people knew what was important and what wasn’t. Seemed like everyone was closer during that time.
Yes people were very tolerant and friendly during WW2.
There was a real sweetheart mentality back then
Life was a bit simpler then. More black and white than it is now.
Ya just a good time full of racism and inequality in America and hundreds of thousands of young men dying at war because some ass hole was trying to engulf it in further tyranny...it was a grand time.
A big reason for that is because everyone basically got the exact same information from the same sources. Everything is way more personalized now
Seems
Between Active duty and Active Reserves, I put in 31 years and at 73 years old I would go in a heartbeat, Never wanted to be anything other than a platoon SSG.
MKUltra go gain some muscle u fucken geek
I love discovering all these cross overs between different podcast hosts I like to listen
On guard we stand.
Damn Matt Damon got old and jacked!
cheese
@@kanutomer8102 Cheese
There is nothing rudimentary about Jocko's thought process. That lad is as close as you will get to gods amongst men.
Calm down, he doesn’t like men like you do
@@themostdiabolicalhater5986 hahaha
Jocko nailed it
Great interview thanks 👏🏻
All the people that I've met in my life that have been through war say the same thing as Jocko. We need to think long and hard before going.....but once we do it has to be all in, and we should be prepared for the ugliness. One of the worst moves the U.S. ever made was withdrawing from Beirut in '83 after the barracks got bombed and those 200 Marines were killed. It emboldened the terrorists into thinking the U.S. will cut and run if you deal them a large enough blow. If you chose to use the military for the right reasons then it makes it easier to stay....cause your there for a good reason.
People give the French a lot grief about surrendering in 1940.
However, in 1983 The French Foreign Legion Barracks was hit at the the same time as the USMC Barracks.
The French did strike back. They launched an air strike and destroyed the facility that trained the terrorists attackers. US Navy SEALs did the Bomb Damage Assessment for the French.
If the government believe there is a need to go to war then fair enough. But you have to be transparent with people, otherwise you end up with situations like Vietnam.
Preach that grunt life. Semper Fi.
Jocko for president!
A truly intelligent, experienced and humble man. Brother!
Robots fighting Robots... or Robots fighting people who don't have good Robots. This is real - Terminator isn't just a film, Terminator is going to be reality. Love these kind of pod casts JR. You need more of these, thank you.
best clip ever
Excellent video 👍🇺🇸
I love to hook into your channel just to hear "Hellooo Freak Bitches" Funny as!
Jocko you are a warrior and I agree 💯. Thanks for the insight.
I would only fight for my country if it is truly under attack. Never will I charge into battle because some politician wants his oil.
politicans have a connection with a company that either gave him or her campaign contributions or other connections in the political game. At the sametime, protayed to the american people, whether fake or not 9/11 seemed like a osama led attack, otherwise romantized films like american sniper wouldnt exist, some people truly cared. People cared, their hatred was directed to the middle east and people fought bravely, eitherway, youd the same if america had the motive like you said
Youll just never know the true motive, there was hitler, but we took all his greatest scientists that werent too mainstream in the germany socialist culture. Spoils of war? Or a cease of oppurtunity in intelligence and technology. I think jockos point is overall, war is a tragic thing for any reason and when a country puts it agenda clear for war it should just go into total war mode, def con 5. Declaring war is saying im going to kill you, so is my people, for what we believe in and what we think our country and other countries should consider or take in as.
You have a terrible understanding of why me and my bothers and sisters go to war. Its not about oil money. Smh. I'll put it like this, if your neighbor down the street had the ability to kill you and your loved ones while at the same time he's making honest threats to harm you than what would have to happen for you to take action? Would you wait until he attacked you or your family? If so than its to late. Kill or be killed. These countries we are at war with have the abilities to do great bodily harm to us and have made plenty threats.
@Timothy, If that's your mindset, there are many things in life, you don't understand. There is literally no country in the world that can endanger or harm the United States and tbh there is no country in the world that really wants to do this. Especially not the countries you went to was with. Iraq had never the military and economic power to endanger the USA neither had Afghanistan. Sure, there was 9/11 but that was made by a terrorist group and not by a government. Considering that the Taliban were willing to give bin laden up under certain conditions, the afghanistan war was just needless.
@@timothyweaver1748 sorry I'll wait till it happens
Those red curtains behind jacko are giving me Muppet Show flashbacks.
As soon as you start off with "god bless him" and "they're the bad guys" you know your getting jingoism.
Jocko is the man.
I feel like Jocko Willink would like the book/ova series Yukikaze.
Jocko and ronin they should be leaders
War must be fought by and witnessed by a whole country together,… during WW2 every citizen thought it was their responsibility to win the war at all costs
And in WW2 we were fighting an existential threat to western civilization in the form of a genocidal fascist regime with ambitions of global domination that they could actually follow through on if left unchecked
In the modern day we’re running around in the desert shooting at brown people, and they shoot back with guns that we sold them 30 years ago
They’re not comparable at all
when i think in robot soldiers i remember the robots from the blade runner OVA, when the robots realize that they are fighting a war that they didnt want to
Hi Joe - it would be great if you could interview Brad Colbert or Nathaniel Flick, the army rangers from generation kill, I always felt that there was a lot left untold about thier time in Afganistan and Iraq.
Generation Kill was about Marines................
You know what I noticed? Basic training, infantry training, advanced infantry training, etc. It was the same 5-10 mkves , over and over and over again. Then I go to war. Some of it applied, a LOT of it didn't . Get back to the states, same training as before without any consideration of what war actually looked like
"War is continuation of politics by other means" Clausewitz
The true enemy is war itself!!!
All these people in the comment section being textbook experts in war have never seen it in real life. Hilarious.
Bulimic Zebra yes we should all join up and fight the bankers wars for glory!
It's all a fraud.
chris coleman what does youre statement have anything to do with what i said? If you think "the bankers" sit around at a table all day an just think of wars to start then you obviously never took a civics class in your life because they have no authority whatsoever to say who goes to war
Bulimic Zebra you really have no clue how this world works.
fitnesspoint2006 i dont think you know how the real world works son
Young men are attracted to war. There’s a struggle for males to identify as the protector and provider. And war is the manliest thing you can do. Even I know this and would still sign up the day England goes to war.
“At the end of the day somebody has to make the enemy scared of the dark.”
oh man that's deep
Watch Black Mirror: Metalhead. Right on the money 👌🏽
'*"Kind-hearted people might of course think there was some ingenious way to disarm or defeat the enemy without too much bloodshed, and might imagine this is the true goal of the art of war. Pleasant as it sounds, it is a fallacy that must be exposed: War is a dangerous business where mistakes that come from kindness are the very worst."* ~ Carl von Clausewitz
Jocko ❤for president 🎉
Joe “instantaneously” Rogan.
War will always be fought with men and weapons!
I wouldn’t say always. There will come a day where robots will spill the blood of civilians and the only counter is other robots and EMP blasts and explosive weapons systems. Will it happen in our lifetime? I doubt it. But there will come a day.
Joe Rogan should have Billy Waugh on the show
Jocko should be some high ranking general or something do he can do this stuff he talks about
He DID do the stuff he talks about.
One of the reasons for the loss in Vietnam was because the Military kept rotating the officers every 6 months or so to make them more competitive for promotion.
With their tanks and their bombs and their guns in a your head and in a your head 😔 😭
They're still fighting
😢 Its in your heads, zombies...
I hate when ppl say the troops are fighting for our freedom. Who is trying to take out freedom away?
They used to back in ww2. Not anymore now
Robots with Delta Force, Green Berets, Force Reconn, Navy Seals, and Air force P.J's battle experience downloaded, oh it's on !
The day Jocko left for buds he said to his father. “You’re the man of the house now”.
Joe "Some of my friends are Navy SEALs" Rogan
They are.
Imagine Jocko being a COD character in the campaign someday lol, akin to Josh Duhamel and Gideon Emery
What about an Exit Strategy
Joe! Take Jocko bow hunting!!
When your federal head declares war on a nation they have spoken for your entire nation. Therefore every man woman and child has declared war on the opposing nation even if they had no say. When the Colonies declared war in the American revolution they were speaking on behalf of all Americans even if they didn’t want it.
I think people would appreciate what freedoms and understand the costs of that liberty from a military source.
You need to have Don and Diane Shipley on your show. That’d be a fucking great podcast.
He looks like matt damon
If Matt Damon was actually a badass and not just an actor
on steroids
It hasnt been necessary since ww2
Do you think we should have let the Rwandan genocide happen
How do you feel about the Bosnian Genocide, or North Korea invading South Korea to forcibly unify them in 1950, or Somalia in 1993, or ISIS, or Saddam invading Kuwait, or Saddam gassing Kurdish people, or what about the 1/3rd of Cambodians killed by their communist dictator?
@Horatio Nelson do you think k the Koreans think they would have been better off had we not saved them?
Major General Smedley Butler "War is a racket"
Everyone who has ever tried to directly fuck with my freedom has been a fellow American.
Speaking of letting military leaders decide how things happen, do we have a clear and concise goal for what we’re doing in Afghanistan yet?
Sure we do....... to rebuild Afghanistan. 😂
But Vietnam was not about freedom. The South Vietnam people did not support their gov. The french were there for the rubber. And we went there to support the steeling of the rubber. So often war is about taking what we want.
Politicians never assess the consequences of young men and women going to war.
Man, war is fucking nuts.
so the problem with vietnam was, not enough napalm
The problem was...they took the Brown Acid.
We also just gave up the fight to
Yes. And Shitbag hippies ruining the country back home.
damn man, military is scary. Only looking in his eyes scares the shit out of me. This is the type of guy that my friend once painted the pic of another military man as "If he received a command He would literally tear you apart in half in few seconds"
Vietnam a perfect example of that
Is well that war is so horrific other wise we would grow to fond of it ! General Robert .E.Lee
To me there should be civilian oversight, when U.S. troops rape and murder civilians in cold blood. There is a big difference between accidentally shooting a civilian during crossfire or a stray bomb than indiscriminately killing and raping. Which was just the kind of things happening in Vietnam. I think a lot of people understand shit happens and the wrong people die in war. But there should be no excuse for U.S. troops committing war crimes.
They should never show and name Americans who are killed or wounded until the family is notified.
Joeeeeeeee rogggggannnnnnnnn have a cool day !
Using robots in a war? It seems like we're getting more like the Terminator movie.
@@jestehr350 sorry but... What bomb?
future wars will be fought by gamers and hackers
I love you Mary Jane
True and a good portion of it right now
dont forget the remote controlled cyborgs
lmao thats what beta nerds like to believe
and the wars after the gamer/hacker wars will be won by whoever can throw rocks the best.
Massive access to filtered information.
I love you Joe, fought guerilla fighters all the back in the Philippines.
Every implemened idea has costs
Either for the individual or the whole
Good or bad
It has to be digested
I'm a Trump university graduate and I agree