**CORRECTION IN THE JETER CASE*** Kelsey was the girl who passed away. Kiersten tried to save her sister but.... 31:08- we will just ignore whatever word I made up...
I personally wont have children. And that's because I don't care for kids, I don't have any interest and definitely don't think I could give them the love they deserve. I wouldn't take care of a kid. I wish all people thought about it before they had kids
@@GBR-cj6fj it's okay, there's humor in everything, they simply laughed at that little exchange taken out of context, I'm sure they still respect what's actually going on in the vid
@@whimsywizards I’m talking about the mom that took her kids to that abandoned house and killed them. Not the mom that ate her kid. Of course that’s not her fault, she actually asked for help and no one listened. But the mom that took her kids to that house and stabbed them was a different story.
yeah fr and the pure shock when she heard the first phrase.. but she still managed to calm herself down almost immediately a hero and a real professional
What I found so disturbing was her calmness and coldness, she should have got the death penalty for what she did to her two daughters in that abandoned house, that was pre meditated, she is not like Otty who was mentally ill
Awesome remix. I did see all of your previous work and it was good work, but the remix does give it more depth of perception. Carry on dude! Can not wait for more.
@@chellyw63 yes! My stomach turned every time she spoke to her surviving daughter "what baby?"... Like, you just killed her sister and stabbed her multiple times, now you're talking to her like nothing is wrong? Just so twisted. I agree, she just wanted to hurt people, death penalty is it for me.
Everyone failed otty. Her sister for giving the child back,the mental health system for rejecting her cry for help and sending her home when she begged them to keep her,and most of all America for making people have to pay for vital medication. Everyone should feel ashamed and now a child is dead and the woman that was failed so many times has to live with what she's done.
I believe it, I went to a free clinic I told them I was having anxiety really bad they said I would have to wait months for an appointment and that they probably wouldn't give me any medication. Good thing I wasnt suicidal. I just can't imagine if a person who was asked for help at the same clinic and got that answer.
The system failed Otty but she also failed herself by not staying on her meds. Her sister thought she was better. She had no idea that Otty would kill her child. She should not be blamed and will probably lives feeling guilty for the rest of her life. What worries me is that Otty may very well be released one day.
@@oliviawright8756 eh, just you. I'm diagnosed with severe depression and attempted suicide multiple times, the last time I did a couple years ago some healthcare workers showed up at the hospital to speak to me and they filled out paperwork so I can get free health insurance that I still have today. I don't have to pay for anything.
I’ve been a psych professional for over 2 decades. Postpartum psychosis is so scary. If they say “I want to hurt my baby”, they mean it. They’re letting you know to take the baby or get the baby placed. Get the mom inpatient treatment ASAP. Usually it clears within a few months, but this woman was high-risk due to a chronic psychotic disorder. The medical system and family failed her.
Screw that, I would NEVER "clear someone" who EVER says something like that!! THAT'S EXACTLY what's wrong with this shit! Y'all and CPS thinking these people change!
People do change unlikely more often in mental cases but not impossible and just because one bad seed you can't lock down everyone. It's the world we're in
@@McGMumof3Yall don’t realize just how badly pregnancy and birth fucks people up. There are multiple cases like this BECAUSE of several factors associated with hormone imbalance, environmental factors and general ignorance about mental health. Women who are ignored about their mental state with children can and unfortunately sometimes do have cases like this.
I have no history of mental illnesses such as psychosis, but when I had my baby the sheer weight of sleep deprivation + anxiety led me to a state that I was hearing things, including my baby crying nonstop and when I went to his crib realizing he was fast asleep in my arms the whole time. It was scary. I cannot imagine what she must have been through, but at the same time multiple people failed her, and she ultimately failed a little angel, a new life. Por baby :(
Chai'el Ma'etheius I don't think that's right. Mental illnesses are real and while pills and other meds don't always work, they're better than no treatment. Conspiracy theories like the one you decided to add to this conversation aren't helping anyone. Conspiracy theories, in fact, are making everything worse and adding to the stigma that comes with mental illness. I know you probably think that you're helping and that you know some secrets, but you're really not.
@@nocturnaljoe9543 I mean the police get the body they have to clean the blood tho so if they imagine it’s paint hopefully it’s less painful and traumatising
My prayers go out to Audi. Who’s got the mental issues going on but what’s really disturbing is how her sister and mother were so quick to give that baby back knowing that his mother was trying to find help. I would say the fault would be theirs as well because they didn’t help her to find the help that she needed, and the thought of them releasing the baby back to her knowing she’s going through that puts them liable and responsible for these babies death. Knowing how unstable OTTY was they handed him back to her that’s definitely something they gotta live with and then as she finally calm down listen to it the sister says her as if nothing happened. I don’t know somethings fishy about that nonetheless rest in peace to the baby, and I hope that this experience will get many more mental patients to help that they need.
I’m so mad at everyone that failed this woman and her baby. She tried to get the help she desperately needed but no one listened to her and now an innocent life that had just started is gone and a woman has done something she wouldn’t have if properly taken care of.
You got to keep in mind, she asked to be admitted into a mental hospital, they denied her, and she tried to give her sister the baby to protect him, yet he was returned. The people involved werent that helpful.
Exactly and some of these comments are so closed-minded. It shows that these people don’t have any mental Illnesses & criticize the people who suffer from them.
The sister had experienced her episodes before and saw them being non violent, in her mind her sister just needed to hand the baby off for a bit while she got a hold of herself, after handing the baby back to the mother the episode resumed and the voices told her the sister was dead there by convincing her that she couldn't give the baby back. It's unclear how aware the sister was of what these episodes consisted of, she likely underestimated the severity of the situation, believing that her sister(the mother) would never hurt the baby because in her mind she could never hurt anyone, the sister isn't to blame, sometimes it's just harder to see the full picture when you're that close to things.
@nexialist sometimes there is not enough room in the hospital and patients lie about the severity of their illness. She probably was referred to another facility and never went. Hospitals dont just turn people away on a whim they have a whole protocol. Yall are quick to attack the ones actually doing something while yall arent helping anyone at all ever.
911 operators don't get enough credit... Staying calm under these horrific situations along with instructing the callers on what to do or trying to keep these monsters calm is amazing!
Hi, so I’m going to kindly direct you to call 5 as to my rebutle towards you. 9/10 dispatchers are incompetent people only half listening because they don’t really care about the situation at hand, just the check. If they do mental evaluations on dispatchers prior to hiring, they really need to stop brushing over the big bold capitalized 4 letter acronym: ADHD. This is some incompetent asshole on the internet and thank you for checking out my TED talk.
Call number 2, with Debra, just made me feel so angry. She stabs her 2 children to death, but one’s still alive, so she became annoyed and irritated and almost bratty that the police aren’t coming fast enough to save the little girl she just brutally stabbed!
Yes. This could've been completely avoided if the healthcare system was better. I'm so sorry for everyone involved, I hope they all get the help they need.
@Florian shes giving them minimal info, wtf you mean incompetence? They saved the child's life. I'd like to see how you react to that sort of situation.
Debra was not insane. Her entire dictation during the call was clear and calm, and she stated she didn’t want to get shot . That was premeditated murder
@thespclflash456 Taking them to an abandoned building to kill them is premedetation. The first one definately had schizophrenia but the second case she might have mental illness but she knew was she was doing because it was planned out , case number one wasn't like that.
@@Kdubz_Auto_HVAC Alright, let me make the basic argument that you obviously don't have the common sense to have thought of yourself. She ate the baby. She was EATING the BABY. In what world does a sane person do that?
@thespclflash456 it doesn't cause you to load your kids into a car after telling them you had a surprise, drive to a area you know is abandoned acting like normal, stab your daughters repeatability, and then call 911 perfectly calm to report what you did to get revenge on your ex. You obviously don't know what psychosis is...
The lady requested help, told she was going to kill the kid and professionals sent her home with the baby anyway the day before. The system failed her and that baby.
@@monicabolden8663 I think you are referring to the first story, these comments are about the call with the mother of the two girls and when the surviving daughter says something in the background she asks "what baby?" In a nonchalant way like she was just going on about a normal day and the kid had asked her something or said something and she didn't hear her. It was eerily calm.
People really need to start listening to mothers when they say something is wrong. It is insane how they just get dismissed when they are trying to seek help
That poor lady on the phone trying to be quiet, hearing her ex unalive her was heartbreaking..I'll never understand how people do things like that verses moving on, and finding someone new..and the poor baby's, so heartbreaking..
Actually he did a correction and the one who tried to save her sister was the one that lived. She was unable to save her sister. Poor girl. I was surprised to hear that she willing went to visit her mom after her sentencing.
@@bliviously5484 I’m sure she had some horrific survivors guilt. I have an older sister and I couldn’t imagine how I’d feel if we were in a situation where she died and I lived. I’m sure she had guilt for a very long time, but I hope that she has been able to overcome that guilt, because NONE of it was her fault.
Most definitely. Not all people should have children, which is why it annoys me when people try to push others to have them when informed that that person doesn't want to have children.
this is so sad. she really tried to tell EVERYONE that she was going to hurt herself or somebody else, and what was working for her was something she couldn’t afford. my heart breaks for everyone involved.
The sister failed her nephew the fact she gave the baby back to her mental sister shows a lot. The sister didn’t want to be bothered all of them are to blame
@Madison Daily yes because she was very mentally ill and suffering, she needed very serious medical attention, and it just seemed like she did not get that. “poor otty” doesn’t mean forget the baby. the baby deserved to live and not get tortured and killed. it’s all more than f-ed up.
@Madison Daily because she was severely ill in a way that impacted her thinking and behaviour...acknowledging that she couldn’t help it doesn’t mean saying it was an ok thing to do.
The fact it took so long to locate the house is my worst fear come true. Our house is located on a small backstreet off of the main street. There are only 4 houses back here and despite having a sign up saying our addresses are around the back routinely every delivery driver cannot find it and it takes 10 minutes and often walking out onto the main street to get them to find us. We had an emergency last year (it was much milder than we thought and my family member was fine thankfully) and luckily a neighbour heard the commotion and went out to signal the ambulance. But im terrified of one day something worse happening and no one being there to help them find us. I always tried to comfort myself thinking that emergency services would pay more attention to street signs than a delivery driver but hearing this series has reminded me how human these people are and mistakes are still possible to make especially in the dark when that sign isnt as visible
That's what happened to me once. I had very high pulse, and feared i would faint and called emergency services. Our House was the only one in the street, somewhere between two villages. We got the number 21, and all the other houses with the same street name were actually on an road opposite to us. I saw the emergency drive up and down the road in the distance while trying to remain calm while trying to describe the location of our house to them.
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The way Debra spoke about killing her children and then how she called her half-dead daughter “baby” and said “hold on they’re coming” like she didn’t just try to kill her confuses tf out of me
living with a family member who is deranged for all her life/years, you only get that cautious the first few years... Because if she survived all those years it means she's okay... right? We know it's only one push away and she can snap but we don't know whether it will be tonight or tomorrow... so it's okay to have her hold her baby right? as someone who experienced living in such a home I kinda understand the situation.
Exactly. She was bringing the baby to her sister knowing she's a danger to her own child, and the sister thought it's okay because she's calmed down? Poor baby :(
@@brooklynsizemore2372 the one that tried to save her sister lived?? I couldn’t tell from the video I just assumed the one that passed was the one that jumped in top. God I feel like I am forever scarred for watching this video because I can’t stop thinking about this. Can’t imagine how the survivor and her relatives feel. Truly evil.
The way these people are speaking so clearly on these 911 calls stating they just killed is so scary...its terrifying to know that human beings can do such evil even animals couldnt do this.
Yeah lol I was thinking the same thing I clearly heard him say Daniel and she called him Pablo through the whole conversation and I'm willing to bet that that made it even easier for him to do what he wanted to do, like he felt like it was meant to be the bitch didn't even have his real name. You never know how people think but it just seemed to me like as soon as she started calling him Pablo and he went along with it, the deal was sealed and I knew he was going to shoot himself on that 911 call. He had already made up his mind and she made it easier by not even calling him Daniel which made it much more impersonal. Just my opinion but I just felt something change with him as soon as he just went along with Pablo instead of even attempting to correct her. These are all something else I have heard them but everytime I hear it again it's still shocks me and freaks me out. I know that that chimpanzee did bite that that woman's fingers off one by one, apparently fingers are as easy to bite through as a carrot! Crazy little fun fact for you LOL anyway yeah I definitely hear you Pablo and Daniel sound nothing alike LOL
@@DanaBongard I know and you know what I don't think it helped anything because as soon as he went along with it oh, it kind of seems like it's cemented what he was going to do he sounded like he became more confident in what she was doing and not trying to think with rational thought. It made it less personal and therefore easier for him to just do it. Little things like that that people don't always think about or in this case she didn't even realize but they really do matter.
@@OUSTET The reason is because they’re trying to keep whoever is on the other end as calm as they can. It’s not that they have no emotions, it’s just they’re doing what they can to try to calm the situation. Most dispatchers need therapy because of all the things they are told about. They have emotions. They’re human, just like us.
I don't think she asked enough questions to get information. Move on to the next ask about the children..she just stopped after the name...could have done a bit better in my opinion.
@@hungrymothergoose well the mother wasn't giving much to work with, giving very vague directions and not a lot of info about herself or what was going on with the daughters, plus telling them to fucking get there like they were the ones who hurt her kids and not her.
@how to respond It was so scary the fact that I'm so scared she might attack the other one if she got the so pissed about it.. the way she speaks like.. it wasn't her children at all
Actually, the elder daughter tried to save her little sister but wasn't able to. The one who survived was the one who tried to save the other one. The whole 911 call was unbearable :(
The mother in the second call doesn’t DESERVE to call her child “baby” Edit: everyone replying to me keeps thinking I’m talking about the first call, I’m talking about the second one. The one where the mother killed both her children in an abandoned house. Please reread before replying.
@@karenwhinesmore9347 not excusing her actions but trying to stop bleeding right after a serious psychotic episode due to severe stress or illusions (we have no clue what she was undergoing) would be quite hard. Not only is it hard for people in the medical field to do it under stress, but for your every day person to do it seems highly unlikely. And like medical professionals advise, you should call 911 and let the professionals who actually know what their doing deal with it. if she or any of us tried without any clue, we could likely injure said person even more. Again though, not excusing her actions
The fact that the sister gave the baby back to her mentally disturbed sister who had already said she was afraid she would hurt the baby and was hearing voices "after she calmed down" is just mind boggling. Poor Otty and poor baby. Such a horrific tragedy that never should have happened.
@@jasoncaldwell0613nobody’s saying it is, but if someone’s telling you they’re gonna hurt their baby cause of the voices in their head and is practically begging u to take the baby from them why on earth would you give it back to them?? she knew that otty had struggled w mental health issues too?? like this could’ve been avoided
@@jasoncaldwell0613It quite literally was her job. otty was put in the care of her sister, it was absolutely her sisters job to make sure she was going to be okay.
@@mwag8403 Please stop abusing the word: literally. From the sound of her sister, she was likely not competent to assume this responsibility. Unless you know otherwise and I doubt you do, her sister did not become her legal guardian. Please except the reality, that some people are not curable, and NEVER will be. Both the mother and the sister were too stupid to make the correct choice: tell CPS about her history, decline involvement and insist that the baby be adopted, immediately. That would have been both intelligent and responsible.
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@@Cvollo yea but they didn't ask if her friend was ALIVE, they asked if her friend was "ok", like wtf do you mean of course she's not ok half of her face is being ripped off..
the little twelve year old girl who jumped over her sister to save her life is the f**king bravest person ive ever heard of. That little girl deserves the world, rest in peace little angel, ive never met you but you have a special place in my heart, right next to your sister, love.
I listen to a lot of these and the most frustrating and emotional things for me is that so many people ask for help only to be rejected. Don't blame them if you won't help them
My heart absolutely breaks for Otty. She did everything she could to get help and the doctors told her no, she didn’t need to be put on the unit, then her sister gave her back the baby even though she’d given Scotty to her several times and they all knew she was hearing voices and having hallucinations. Everyone who was supposed to help her failed, that just breaks my heart. You can only do so much to help yourself when you are so severely ill and your support system isn’t listening.
I agree with you 100%!! Just the fact alone that she ate the baby tells us, mental illness is at play here. Then you add all the people who failed her when she was trying to get her mind well again and it becomes something entirely different than other premeditated murders.
Exactly. Alot of ppl with mental illness never get the help they truly need. She wanted the help, she knew she was getting bad off but noone took her serious. I feel for her. Its so sad about her baby. If they would’ve listened to her then scotty may still be alive.
@@trickortrump3292 her saying she was gagging but the voices kept telling her to eat it breaks my heart. She was so sick and tried so hard to get help. I feel like guilt will eat her alive in her sane moments
That is incredibly sad. She asked and begged everyone for help. Even handed her baby to her sister and TOLD her she was seeing things and the babies face was changing. Damn man.
@@UmatsuObossa the thing is when you’re like this you don’t really have a sense of what’s right or wrong, you’re not aware you’re doing anything bad until it’s over, so it’s not that she “listened” to the voices she just wasn’t aware *in the moment* that it was a bad thing bc it felt real and like it was what she was suppose to be doing. i hope this make sense :)
@@ginnybean838 Still...yes and no. I was on nitrous oxide for a dentist appt once, and I was definitely experiencing delusions, I felt like I had been in the dentist chair since the dawn of time and world be forever into the future as well, but even though I felt that way, I still also knew that wasn't actually right. Also in a fit of depression once I took a shitton of benedryl and was definitely getting weird delusions from that. I was talking to a friend and telling him I didn't know if I was even actually talking to him, or if what I was saying was gibberish or not. But when I sobered up, everything I'd thought I'd said, I'd actually said, and I'd never behaved irrationally the entire time. It could be something with my brain, maybe I'm extraordinarily grounded in reality or something. Everything I've ever done that has made others supposedly lose control of themselves, I never came close.
@@UmatsuObossa The thing is, when you’re being hounded by voices, when reality begins to change, your brain, especially when it is purely your brain that is doing this to you. When she was in her psychosis, she has no sense of anything but what her brain is doing to her- believing she has a demon/needs to get the demon out. It is clear that her psychosis took over and won, she was no longer herself and she’ll forever have to live with knowing she did it, even though it wasn’t entirely her fault.
@@UmatsuObossa Though we get where your coming from, but that was a one time thing for you. Otty was experiencing it constantly and she tried to get help for it but she couldn’t pay for it. Please be mindful and don’t compare your experiences to something so big when yours is so small. Your sane. She is not. Otty took drugs constantly, you took them for whatever reasons you needed them for.
Julio Rodriguez/ She said it in the most MONOTONE voice ever. Her statement afterwards proves how cold it is when she says something like "Get here quick one of them wants to live". It just makes the "I killed my children", as her first statement macabre
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Exactly!!!!!!!!!!! Why would she give the baby back to her when she’s saying the baby’s face is changing and she’s hearing voices?! 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️ I wonder if she can look at herself after knowing she could’ve prevented that by just keeping the baby in her room.
The sister could have prevented it, yeah, but that's not the sickening part. The sickening part is our healthcare. She could have gotten better help a lot faster, had she been able to afford it and been taken seriously. Hospitals act like everyone is out for pain pills or drugs of some sort, and mental health professionals don't validate the severity of your illness. Drugs are expensive, visits and check-ups are expensive, and there is not a whole lot of empathy in these professions. It's irresponsible of the sister, but it's more irresponsible of the healthcare system that fails every American.
The whole situation was tragic but we need to remember that she isn’t a trained medical person and that Otto had suffered psychiatric issues for quite a while so she may not have been able to judge how abnormal her behaviour was. It is so sad that Otto wasn’t able to get the appropriate treatment she needed.
@Jedi Patriot, @your sleep paralysis, @Ja Nay, @Delphine, the worst Blade ever, @lyrics Marie, please think about this: everything is generally completely clear in hindsight. think of someone you know who has a mental illness, or even someone who is struggling with addiction (sometimes even someone just struggling with a bad habit is similar), both people who have heard voices and been on drugs (not saying it has to be both b/c the drugs made her worse in this situation) have been able to recover and live productive lives, managing their lives, maybe having to deal with a set-back once or twice. it's very easy for us to sit here with all the information after it had happened but she had been doing better. this is unfortunately pretty common, how many times do you hear about a mass shooter and people say omg! he was totally normal or this guy didn't bother anyone. putting the blame on family members, who neither have the training to recognize things a layman wouldn't and is most likely trying to do her best, helping her sister take care of her mental health, which can be a nightmare through the nature of many mental health issues, while having her live with her and the newborn, which on top of just helping would raise daily stress levels even more, clouding judgement, to intermittently raising the newborn while trying to asses when and if the sister is doing better to take care of the child. can you imagine living like that and trying to function day-to-day, then when you see your loved one doing well. as the mother, she has the right to, on top of it being a relief for the family member, not just because of the responsibility but being happy seeing your family member starting to do well, especially with a child. like @Masha Spikego, the sister was not trained to tell if she was okay and a medical professional could have just as easily said she was okay and then this happened. that's part of the insidiousness of mental illness. mental health in this country in general needs a better system but it's hard enough as it is, maybe one day we will get there.
she spoke of them as objects.. " one is dead dead but the other one is alive and wants to be saved." THOSE ARE YOUR CHILDREN HOW COULD YOU!!!! omggg i'm so angryyyyyyyyy
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Me too dude it makes me so sad and hate humans even more but yet I can't stop myself from listening. How does a mother/Friend/Lover even do this hanus crimes against their loved ones. Makes me sick to the stomach
I fall down these holes of listening to this stuff, worryingly often 😅 I guess it's the side of me drawn to morbid stuff like everyone else like ya know conspiracy theories a campfire tales. I think it is important to monitor your mental health through these though, that's absolutely vital-- people can be absolutely horrifying for sure.
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Sadly that was the real Deborah answering her daughter in distress, o grew up with a mom with multiple personality disorder, her other personality won, took over, my mother took off with my youngest sister leaving my family. I went to live with my mom around 16, well watching her go from personality from personality was devastating..
Right! That was so whicked! And calling the kid baby while she says she cant help her? Im assumming she came to her senses somehow before finishing off the second child. Im a bit surprised the surviving daughter was given time to chat w her mother who tried murdering her, but maybe it gave the girl closure. I know love is bigger than most things someone can do thats bad, but damn...
she did that for a reason she had to keep it cool because she doesn’t know what debra was capable of. Trying to make her seem “safe” but really it was so she could calm down and the police can get her
Or "my chimpanzee ripped my girlfriend's face off and ripped her apart." I mean how do you not even REMOTELY question that or reply SHOCKED even for a millisecond! HOW DO YOU PREPARE FOR A CALL LIKE THAT?!
The woman who found the abandoned baby in the trash showed a billion times more concern and love for that baby that wasn’t even hers than that monster Debra showed for her children ...
Ghosts, Satans and demons are everywhere. They will take advantage on weak ppl if they had a chance. Depression ppl have weak souls so dont ignore them. Suiciders are also get disturbed by Satans. When they hear things means their condition are getting worse. Dont ignore them until they have to kill somebody and Then you panick. These kinds of ppl need to be treated. If they ignored, their condition can be worsen. Their body need to be 'cleanse'. I know this because im a Muslim. Alhamdulillah 😇
Asian Female Ghosts? Satans? Demons I understand but there’s only one Satan, and ghosts aren’t evil they can be but they’re people that haven’t passed on to the afterlife.
Yeah listening to that part was like a breathe of fresh air after hearing about Debra's horrible killing. It's like I almost lost touch of the good people in the world. Its scary how people go insane and do things like this to other innocent people. Just imagining myself being a physco makes me feel disgusting
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The woman who murdered her own children is a monster. She was so calm and talked to her daughter who was dying as if nothing happened. It makes me nauseous to think that she did that with seemingly no remorse
you can hear reality slowly set in and she gets desperate to have her helped. sucks that these crazy people end up regretting their actions so soon after but not soon enough to prevent it.
@Baby Nunu the first one was mentally ill and it really wasn't her fault. She had repeatedly asked for help from her family and from the doctors. The second one wasn't mentally ill. She was just a spiteful bitch who took her anger out on her poor daughters.
@@shreyamishra6310 no she had some psychiatric problems too... did you not see the part where she was suicidal? I mean yeah still, no excuse, and she prbly still wanted revenge. Just be aware tho
Woman who has an extensive history of psychosis as well as suicidal and homicidal thoughts: Please admit me to the hospital. I am hearing voices telling me to kill my son, and he's not safe with me. Hospital: lol no you're fine Woman: Sister, please take my child. I am hearing voices telling me to kill him, and he's not safe with me. Sister: lol no you're fine Woman: *kills child* Everyone: OMG how could she?? No one saw this coming how did this happen? Why didn't she just reach out??? As someone who struggles with hallucinations and delusions as part of my mental health disorder this shit pisses me off so badly. Literally the first and last thing they teach you in any kind of mental health treatment is to reach out for help if you need it. How are people supposed to get help if it will fall on deaf ears? Of course the child is a victim and was severely wronged but in this situation the mother is just as much a victim. Not only does she have schizophrenia to deal with, but now she has to live with what she's done on top of a manslaughter charge when the situation could have been avoided so easily.
Ikr. Im kinda pissed to the sister, she should took the baby away and not let otty come back to the baby again. Otty said herself, and they clearly knows she is mentally unstable. I feel sorry to otty and the baby :(
As someone with psychosis, I agree. Sometimes illnesses like this are heavily influenced by our emotions. Turning that mother away constantly when she was begging for help, was a dick move. It's the same thing with suicidal people. Others ignore their cries for help, but once they take their life, then everyone makes a surprised pikachu face because they "didn't know what happened".
I know Otty Sanchez as a friend and coworker. I do know she and her family repeatedly asked for help, made numerous trips to doctors and ERs. All in vain. To listen to people on a daily basis state that she should be killed, dragged in the streets, set on fire in the street and so on took a toll on all of us who knew her. She is in the state mental hospital and will not be released. Only her family can visit. She has to live with this. I know for a fact she loved Stephen with all her heart and would never under any normal circumstance EVER hurt him. She would have died to protect him. The health care system and doctors let her down at every turn. Thank you for realizing the truth.
@@Tsiri09 Yeah, she was telling them "I need to go to the mental hospital" But they didn't listen.. and when she couldn't afford the prescription, they should have tried to help her the best they could by paying for it or something.
That dispatcher talking to Debra deserves some damn recognition for not going there herself and ripping that thing to shreds. She did such a great job.
Bro your voice is strenuous to listen 😢 you had a free ghost sound effect really., thought of listening before i fall asleep but i instantly thought of listening at noontime 😂
I did not like that dispatcher. She seemed to be rather flippant, and she kept calling this killer "Honey, sweetie", etc...that's not a good way to get someone to cooperate. IDK, she just seemed very unprofessional.
@Hudson Furtado I understand all that, the problem I had was that she didn't seem to be actually being kind. It came across to me as condescending and flippant. Where I'm from, calling someone you don't know "honey", "sweetie", etc. is considred condescending and rude.
Hudson Furtado I think she just meant that using “honey” and “sweetie” wasn’t a good idea. Lots of people find that condescending if it’s a stranger calling them that, meaning they’d be less inclined to listen.
@@needtopoonow308 EXACTLY! Thank you! I work in customer service, where kindness is the number 1 priority and one of the first things they teach new people is to NOT use terms of endearment like that.
The second dispatcher is so good. The way the woman talks to her, saying "bitch" and other things, and the dispatcher immediately understands the case, is surprising. I would have said something like "try not killing your children first" when she started telling them to hurry up
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**CORRECTION IN THE JETER CASE***
Kelsey was the girl who passed away. Kiersten tried to save her sister but....
31:08- we will just ignore whatever word I made up...
you are very talented. you are very eloquent so we don't notice if you make up any words 🤣
Sounded right to me🤷♀️
Lol gotcha
You’re urmaker. You can say it however you like❤️
That part of the “remastering” LOL?
If someone tells you that they're afraid that they will hurt their baby, believe them.
Exactly.
Or themselves
@@jayceollie4993 ‘far leftists’ what does this have to do with politics
@@jayceollie4993 This has nothing to do with politics
I personally wont have children. And that's because I don't care for kids, I don't have any interest and definitely don't think I could give them the love they deserve. I wouldn't take care of a kid. I wish all people thought about it before they had kids
“What’s your name sir?”
“Daniel”
“Pablo?”
“Yeah”
😂😂😂😂 and then kept calling him that and he answering 😩💀
Lmao 😂
ikr 😆
But we just heard Beatriz speak her last words and just got shot.
That’s horrible..
@@GBR-cj6fj it's okay, there's humor in everything, they simply laughed at that little exchange taken out of context, I'm sure they still respect what's actually going on in the vid
Debra saying she “didn’t want to get shot” after just stabbing her kids absolutely infuriated me.
She is mentally ill, bro. She doesn't deserve it. Especially after trying to get help and getting denied.
Exactly, she wants them to show her mercy when she had none for her kids
@@whimsywizards I’m talking about the mom that took her kids to that abandoned house and killed them. Not the mom that ate her kid. Of course that’s not her fault, she actually asked for help and no one listened. But the mom that took her kids to that house and stabbed them was a different story.
@@whimsywizards No problem
THIS IS DEMONIC
That dispatcher dealing with the mom in the abandoned house did so well. She stayed calm . Bless her
yeah fr
and the pure shock when she heard the first phrase.. but she still managed to calm herself down almost immediately
a hero and a real professional
"tell them not to shoot me because I don't have a gun".... Your kids didn't have knives either but that didn't stop you from stabbing them. Monster.
What I found so disturbing was her calmness and coldness, she should have got the death penalty for what she did to her two daughters in that abandoned house, that was pre meditated, she is not like Otty who was mentally ill
And they were so excited, too, poor things. I hope that "mother" burns in hell
Awesome remix. I did see all of your previous work and it was good work, but the remix does give it more depth of perception. Carry on dude! Can not wait for more.
@@chellyw63 yes! My stomach turned every time she spoke to her surviving daughter "what baby?"... Like, you just killed her sister and stabbed her multiple times, now you're talking to her like nothing is wrong? Just so twisted.
I agree, she just wanted to hurt people, death penalty is it for me.
@@gremlininblue2601 agreed! There's no coming back from that kind of evil. Poor girls.
Everyone failed otty. Her sister for giving the child back,the mental health system for rejecting her cry for help and sending her home when she begged them to keep her,and most of all America for making people have to pay for vital medication. Everyone should feel ashamed and now a child is dead and the woman that was failed so many times has to live with what she's done.
The mental health system is so screwed up in America... needs way more attention :(
This is what made me cry
I believe it, I went to a free clinic I told them I was having anxiety really bad they said I would have to wait months for an appointment and that they probably wouldn't give me any medication. Good thing I wasnt suicidal. I just can't imagine if a person who was asked for help at the same clinic and got that answer.
The system failed Otty but she also failed herself by not staying on her meds. Her sister thought she was better. She had no idea that Otty would kill her child. She should not be blamed and will probably lives feeling guilty for the rest of her life. What worries me is that Otty may very well be released one day.
@@oliviawright8756 eh, just you. I'm diagnosed with severe depression and attempted suicide multiple times, the last time I did a couple years ago some healthcare workers showed up at the hospital to speak to me and they filled out paperwork so I can get free health insurance that I still have today. I don't have to pay for anything.
I’ve been a psych professional for over 2 decades. Postpartum psychosis is so scary. If they say “I want to hurt my baby”, they mean it. They’re letting you know to take the baby or get the baby placed. Get the mom inpatient treatment ASAP. Usually it clears within a few months, but this woman was high-risk due to a chronic psychotic disorder. The medical system and family failed her.
Screw that, I would NEVER "clear someone" who EVER says something like that!! THAT'S EXACTLY what's wrong with this shit! Y'all and CPS thinking these people change!
People do change unlikely more often in mental cases but not impossible and just because one bad seed you can't lock down everyone. It's the world we're in
the street drugs dont help
@@McGMumof3Yall don’t realize just how badly pregnancy and birth fucks people up. There are multiple cases like this BECAUSE of several factors associated with hormone imbalance, environmental factors and general ignorance about mental health. Women who are ignored about their mental state with children can and unfortunately sometimes do have cases like this.
This dispatcher for the baby's question
I have no history of mental illnesses such as psychosis, but when I had my baby the sheer weight of sleep deprivation + anxiety led me to a state that I was hearing things, including my baby crying nonstop and when I went to his crib realizing he was fast asleep in my arms the whole time. It was scary. I cannot imagine what she must have been through, but at the same time multiple people failed her, and she ultimately failed a little angel, a new life. Por baby :(
Yeah but at the end of the day you know that shit isn't real and snap back to reality.
@@MrSeanman30 Not how psychosis works buddy
It’s called phantom cry. It’s normal
Phantom cries are extremely normal. So weird but normal
@@MrSeanman30 Yes, it's scary how the effects of sleep deprivation could have on a mind that is suffering from psychosis
This is why mental health should be free and not cost $1,000’s of dollars. That poor baby
It’s all about population control, give pills to make sure that they feel nothing...
yes!!agree..
Yes true
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I don't think that's right. Mental illnesses are real and while pills and other meds don't always work, they're better than no treatment. Conspiracy theories like the one you decided to add to this conversation aren't helping anyone. Conspiracy theories, in fact, are making everything worse and adding to the stigma that comes with mental illness. I know you probably think that you're helping and that you know some secrets, but you're really not.
Caller calmly: “I just killed my children”
Dispatcher hoping she heard wrong: “Excuse me?”
The people on the phone get traumatised, already. Now imagine being the guy who has to clean up the mess.
Thank god the stayed on the call, like wow
@@nocturnaljoe9543 I mean the police get the body they have to clean the blood tho so if they imagine it’s paint hopefully it’s less painful and traumatising
@@starlitsong8456 no a crime scene team that specializes in cleaning crimes scenes after the police are done
Idk man but that's a cute horse
The sister who gave the baby back is going to have to live with that choice for the rest of her life. Absolutely heartbreaking.
My prayers go out to Audi. Who’s got the mental issues going on but what’s really disturbing is how her sister and mother were so quick to give that baby back knowing that his mother was trying to find help. I would say the fault would be theirs as well because they didn’t help her to find the help that she needed, and the thought of them releasing the baby back to her knowing she’s going through that puts them liable and responsible for these babies death. Knowing how unstable OTTY was they handed him back to her that’s definitely something they gotta live with and then as she finally calm down listen to it the sister says her as if nothing happened. I don’t know somethings fishy about that nonetheless rest in peace to the baby, and I hope that this experience will get many more mental patients to help that they need.
I’m so mad at everyone that failed this woman and her baby. She tried to get the help she desperately needed but no one listened to her and now an innocent life that had just started is gone and a woman has done something she wouldn’t have if properly taken care of.
You got to keep in mind, she asked to be admitted into a mental hospital, they denied her, and she tried to give her sister the baby to protect him, yet he was returned. The people involved werent that helpful.
i put the most blame on the hospital that refused to admit her but the family also could’ve prevented it
Exactly and some of these comments are so closed-minded. It shows that these people don’t have any mental Illnesses & criticize the people who suffer from them.
@@misseselise3864 The family didn’t have the training to prevent that. Hence why she should have been admitted.,,
The sister had experienced her episodes before and saw them being non violent, in her mind her sister just needed to hand the baby off for a bit while she got a hold of herself, after handing the baby back to the mother the episode resumed and the voices told her the sister was dead there by convincing her that she couldn't give the baby back. It's unclear how aware the sister was of what these episodes consisted of, she likely underestimated the severity of the situation, believing that her sister(the mother) would never hurt the baby because in her mind she could never hurt anyone, the sister isn't to blame, sometimes it's just harder to see the full picture when you're that close to things.
@nexialist sometimes there is not enough room in the hospital and patients lie about the severity of their illness. She probably was referred to another facility and never went. Hospitals dont just turn people away on a whim they have a whole protocol. Yall are quick to attack the ones actually doing something while yall arent helping anyone at all ever.
Debra admitting to killing her children like she's ordering pizza wtf
Ikr
Come on, hurry save the one that didn’t die :)
Eric Foreman I know lol
Unus?
@@annier9742 memento mori :)
911 operators don't get enough credit... Staying calm under these horrific situations along with instructing the callers on what to do or trying to keep these monsters calm is amazing!
Just being detached and knowing how to do your job properly/being sufficiently trained.
Hi, so I’m going to kindly direct you to call 5 as to my rebutle towards you. 9/10 dispatchers are incompetent people only half listening because they don’t really care about the situation at hand, just the check. If they do mental evaluations on dispatchers prior to hiring, they really need to stop brushing over the big bold capitalized 4 letter acronym: ADHD. This is some incompetent asshole on the internet and thank you for checking out my TED talk.
Call number 2, with Debra, just made me feel so angry. She stabs her 2 children to death, but one’s still alive, so she became annoyed and irritated and almost bratty that the police aren’t coming fast enough to save the little girl she just brutally stabbed!
The first baby would likely still be alive if america had a better healthcare system...
Yes. This could've been completely avoided if the healthcare system was better. I'm so sorry for everyone involved, I hope they all get the help they need.
Jörunn von Westernhagen you both are completely clueless lol
@@duckhunter17 then explain please.
@@duckhunter17 If you think so.
The baby would still be alive if the sister didnt give it back to the sick mother.
i can’t imagine how stressed the paramedics were while trying to find that damn house
I'm glad they were on time. Imagine if they couldn't find it and that girl bled out.
@Jane Doe did you watch the video or
They probably get used to being around crazy people in America
i’m stressed just listening to it
@Florian shes giving them minimal info, wtf you mean incompetence? They saved the child's life. I'd like to see how you react to that sort of situation.
That third story was heartbreaking. Hearing her last words before passing away is horrible. I can’t even imagine being a dispatcher
Debra was not insane. Her entire dictation during the call was clear and calm, and she stated she didn’t want to get shot . That was premeditated murder
Obviously you don't know how psychosis works.
@thespclflash456 Taking them to an abandoned building to kill them is premedetation.
The first one definately had schizophrenia but the second case she might have mental illness but she knew was she was doing because it was planned out , case number one wasn't like that.
@@Kdubz_Auto_HVAC Alright, let me make the basic argument that you obviously don't have the common sense to have thought of yourself. She ate the baby. She was EATING the BABY. In what world does a sane person do that?
@@thespclflash456here’s some common sense for you, this video has multiple 911 calls. 2 different cases. Debra is not the one who ate her baby.
@thespclflash456 it doesn't cause you to load your kids into a car after telling them you had a surprise, drive to a area you know is abandoned acting like normal, stab your daughters repeatability, and then call 911 perfectly calm to report what you did to get revenge on your ex. You obviously don't know what psychosis is...
No one:
Not a soul:
My TH-cam recommended: *“Sooo, Wanna hear about a woman eating kids?”*
Factz
....I hate how accurate this is
@@queenrestauro7865 ?
Same like??? What
@@whatthefridge1o1 I think they ment it got recommend not that they ate a kid (I hope) 😂😂
The mom says “What baby?” To one of her daughters like she didn’t just try to kill her
I know... I thought the same thing.
I know, right!!? Like the Mom is asking what type of salad dressing her daughter Said she wanted on her salad!! 🙄
made me sick...how could she even think to call her daughter that after doing such a traumatic act.
The lady requested help, told she was going to kill the kid and professionals sent her home with the baby anyway the day before. The system failed her and that baby.
@@monicabolden8663 I think you are referring to the first story, these comments are about the call with the mother of the two girls and when the surviving daughter says something in the background she asks "what baby?" In a nonchalant way like she was just going on about a normal day and the kid had asked her something or said something and she didn't hear her. It was eerily calm.
People really need to start listening to mothers when they say something is wrong. It is insane how they just get dismissed when they are trying to seek help
They tell patients to speak up over and over. When they do, they are met with ignorance and contempt.
That poor lady on the phone trying to be quiet, hearing her ex unalive her was heartbreaking..I'll never understand how people do things like that verses moving on, and finding someone new..and the poor baby's, so heartbreaking..
Not enough people talking about how that girl saved her sister.
Hero
sorry i ruined ur 69 likes but i had no choice but to like this comment
Actually he did a correction and the one who tried to save her sister was the one that lived.
She was unable to save her sister. Poor girl. I was surprised to hear that she willing went to visit her mom after her sentencing.
@@trackydoo I hope she doesn’t blame herself for what happened :(
@@bliviously5484 I’m sure she had some horrific survivors guilt. I have an older sister and I couldn’t imagine how I’d feel if we were in a situation where she died and I lived. I’m sure she had guilt for a very long time, but I hope that she has been able to overcome that guilt, because NONE of it was her fault.
All children deserve parents, not all parents deserve children. So sad.
Well said and yes, it's beyond tragic!
True
Most definitely. Not all people should have children, which is why it annoys me when people try to push others to have them when informed that that person doesn't want to have children.
I agree so damn much!
She had a mental illness and even tried all she could to get health officials to believe her. They failed thg at baby just as much as she did
this is so sad. she really tried to tell EVERYONE that she was going to hurt herself or somebody else, and what was working for her was something she couldn’t afford. my heart breaks for everyone involved.
The sister failed her nephew the fact she gave the baby back to her mental sister shows a lot. The sister didn’t want to be bothered all of them are to blame
he should’ve gone when OTTY said she was ready, not based on the sisters judgement
"The price of her medications caused her to stop taking them." Just another person failed by our heath system.
Heartbreaking
Yet people from out of their country get more than citizens
She also actually sought help 💔 😔
What you want them to be free and your taxes raised by 10 times more? I don’t think you know how that works.
@@puest-uo4lr i don't think you do either
Otty shouldn’t have been discharged. The hospital is responsible for her baby’s death and everyone’s trauma. Poor Otty.
So is the.sister
@Madison Daily yes because she was very mentally ill and suffering, she needed very serious medical attention, and it just seemed like she did not get that. “poor otty” doesn’t mean forget the baby. the baby deserved to live and not get tortured and killed. it’s all more than f-ed up.
@Madison Daily i think that’s such a cruel thing to say...yes, poor baby
@Madison Daily well that’s your opinion, but if that was true there would be no such thing as mental health hospitals or therapists.
@Madison Daily because she was severely ill in a way that impacted her thinking and behaviour...acknowledging that she couldn’t help it doesn’t mean saying it was an ok thing to do.
The fact it took so long to locate the house is my worst fear come true. Our house is located on a small backstreet off of the main street. There are only 4 houses back here and despite having a sign up saying our addresses are around the back routinely every delivery driver cannot find it and it takes 10 minutes and often walking out onto the main street to get them to find us. We had an emergency last year (it was much milder than we thought and my family member was fine thankfully) and luckily a neighbour heard the commotion and went out to signal the ambulance. But im terrified of one day something worse happening and no one being there to help them find us. I always tried to comfort myself thinking that emergency services would pay more attention to street signs than a delivery driver but hearing this series has reminded me how human these people are and mistakes are still possible to make especially in the dark when that sign isnt as visible
That's what happened to me once. I had very high pulse, and feared i would faint and called emergency services. Our House was the only one in the street, somewhere between two villages. We got the number 21, and all the other houses with the same street name were actually on an road opposite to us.
I saw the emergency drive up and down the road in the distance while trying to remain calm while trying to describe the location of our house to them.
This is the first video I’m watching if yours and I think you’ve done really well, I think it’s amazing to hear about the man in video 2 meeting his fiancé and you being invited to the wedding, these are the kinds of channels I love finding 💖
The way Debra spoke about killing her children and then how she called her half-dead daughter “baby” and said “hold on they’re coming” like she didn’t just try to kill her confuses tf out of me
n the fact that she's so fucking calm about killing her children-
You can't make sense of severe mental illness. It's tragic her daughter died and also that she didn't get help long before that happened
She has mental health.Probably didnt understand the situation
The operator on the last call.....I jist cant undestand. HIM!!!!.....i remember this case though...sad....
That was a very good video....sad sad circumstances ...but very good work Sir😊
dude when your sister is telling you she’s hearing voices and hallucinating why would you give the baby back to her?? this story is so sad
Yeah they really failed that child
Yeah thats what I was wondering
I really blame the sister tbh. I mean yeah the mother was bad but it wasn't her fault. 100% her sister's fault.
living with a family member who is deranged for all her life/years, you only get that cautious the first few years... Because if she survived all those years it means she's okay... right? We know it's only one push away and she can snap but we don't know whether it will be tonight or tomorrow... so it's okay to have her hold her baby right?
as someone who experienced living in such a home I kinda understand the situation.
Exactly. She was bringing the baby to her sister knowing she's a danger to her own child, and the sister thought it's okay because she's calmed down? Poor baby :(
Wow thank you for covering this. I lived in the area and I remember when this happened. It was heart wrenching to see happen in your hometown.
I appreciate you remaking this video, now I can start at #1 and binge your videos again 😂
The girl literally jumped in front of the knife for her sister 🥺
I know that really broke my heart like what a good sister :,(
And she is the one who lived
@@brooklynsizemore2372 the one that tried to save her sister lived?? I couldn’t tell from the video I just assumed the one that passed was the one that jumped in top. God I feel like I am forever scarred for watching this video because I can’t stop thinking about this. Can’t imagine how the survivor and her relatives feel. Truly evil.
@@ABeautyConnectionx yea she lived
Poor girls 😢
Hero
Hispanic dude calls in, says name is Daniel. Dispatcher: sounds like a Pablo.
LMFAOO ! 😭🤚🏾
he also said "i shot 3 people"
dispatcher"2 people?ok"
😭✋🗿
Exactly, like how do you even mistake that?
I don't think she made a mistake. I think she knew he because he has been in trouble alot
This was hard and heartbreaking to listen to, thank you fir sharing these with us. Bless the babies and children
The way these people are speaking so clearly on these 911 calls stating they just killed is so scary...its terrifying to know that human beings can do such evil even animals couldnt do this.
Guess u didn't listen to the last call where the chimpanzee rips the lady's fucking face off
Well the monkey did he mangled that lady over a tickle me Elmo toy
"what's your name?"
"daniel"
"PABLO?"
i get that handling these calls can be stressful...but wow lol
Kyoji Kasshu EXACTLY 😂😂‼️‼️
WHO THE HELL IS PABLO🤦🏽♀️‼️‼️
🤣🤣🤣
The fact that he didn't correct her after hahah
Yeah lol I was thinking the same thing I clearly heard him say Daniel and she called him Pablo through the whole conversation and I'm willing to bet that that made it even easier for him to do what he wanted to do, like he felt like it was meant to be the bitch didn't even have his real name. You never know how people think but it just seemed to me like as soon as she started calling him Pablo and he went along with it, the deal was sealed and I knew he was going to shoot himself on that 911 call. He had already made up his mind and she made it easier by not even calling him Daniel which made it much more impersonal. Just my opinion but I just felt something change with him as soon as he just went along with Pablo instead of even attempting to correct her. These are all something else I have heard them but everytime I hear it again it's still shocks me and freaks me out. I know that that chimpanzee did bite that that woman's fingers off one by one, apparently fingers are as easy to bite through as a carrot! Crazy little fun fact for you LOL anyway yeah I definitely hear you Pablo and Daniel sound nothing alike LOL
@@DanaBongard I know and you know what I don't think it helped anything because as soon as he went along with it oh, it kind of seems like it's cemented what he was going to do he sounded like he became more confident in what she was doing and not trying to think with rational thought. It made it less personal and therefore easier for him to just do it. Little things like that that people don't always think about or in this case she didn't even realize but they really do matter.
"He's killing my girlfriend!"
"So what's the problem?"
This dispatcher is 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Dispatchers always seem to have 0 fucking emotion it baffles me
@@OUSTET The reason is because they’re trying to keep whoever is on the other end as calm as they can. It’s not that they have no emotions, it’s just they’re doing what they can to try to calm the situation. Most dispatchers need therapy because of all the things they are told about. They have emotions. They’re human, just like us.
Not to be mean, but he sounded kinda slow.
@@OUSTET Someone needs to be the voice of reason in these cases. They couldn't do what they do if they reacted emotionally.
@@Hutchman05 which is why I could never be a dispatcher. I break under pressure.
Wow this video kept me on the edge of my seat in just utter shock…and some tears. Good job 👍🏼. Thanks for the video. Amazing job ❤
You did a fantastic job..Thank you for sharing all of these videos with us I love them..
the operator in the second call is incredible for staying so calm while on the phone with a real life monster.
Omg ikr
That's part of their job, they can't be freaking out when someone calls with a life or death situation. It may come across as cold but it's not
I don't think she asked enough questions to get information. Move on to the next ask about the children..she just stopped after the name...could have done a bit better in my opinion.
@@hungrymothergoose well the mother wasn't giving much to work with, giving very vague directions and not a lot of info about herself or what was going on with the daughters, plus telling them to fucking get there like they were the ones who hurt her kids and not her.
@@caroldowning5964 some people are just mentally strong. But you can tell she was uneasy and nervous
The way how she said “I just killed my children” so calmly- and was telling her “hurry up, hurry come on” I’m-
Ikr the way she said "hurry up" in an annoyed tone like she was getting someone to fetch her some water or some shit
@how to respond It was so scary the fact that I'm so scared she might attack the other one if she got the so pissed about it.. the way she speaks like.. it wasn't her children at all
And even cursed out the operator, like they wouldn't have to hurry if you didn't try to kill your children ma'am
it’s the fact she was talking to them asking “what baby?”
It annoyed me that the dispatcher kept calling her sweetie, darling and crap like that...
Wow 😯 the last one really got me. You have a very nice, soothing voice. First time listening to you definitely subscribed.
This video was well done, sad, and informative. It made me want to cry for these poor people. Mental illness is very scary.
The girl was a hero, she died to save her sister.
absolutely right. i hope that she’s resting well.
Actually, the elder daughter tried to save her little sister but wasn't able to. The one who survived was the one who tried to save the other one. The whole 911 call was unbearable :(
@@fayleurefayleure1495 absolutely wrong. She lived and her sister died despite her best efforts.
God bless her
Fr it breaks my heart
The mother in the second call doesn’t DESERVE to call her child “baby”
Edit: everyone replying to me keeps thinking I’m talking about the first call, I’m talking about the second one. The one where the mother killed both her children in an abandoned house. Please reread before replying.
That’s not her child no more.
My goodness dude the child is dead and she's like "yeah get the fck over hear now to save my kid" das tuff
@@sevageza.delulu_ istg! My mouth was open the whole time listening to her.
@@CourTooKnee I was in shock at how she was talking😔
Imagine what happened to her.
You are not being born like this.
People like this were MADE.
Most time it's the parents faul... Etc pp...
Great job. Keep bringing us the videos. .
Great Video! You did awesome with the videos & calls.
"Hurry the fuck up! Why aren't you comin'?! I want to save my daughters whom I have brutally stabbed! C'mon!" ...*sigh*
That’s wild but who asked
@Natalie Malmgren you ain’t gotta tell me shorddy
Right! It's not like she was even trying to stop the bleeding or anything!
Karen Whinesmore nvm lol
@@karenwhinesmore9347 not excusing her actions but trying to stop bleeding right after a serious psychotic episode due to severe stress or illusions (we have no clue what she was undergoing) would be quite hard. Not only is it hard for people in the medical field to do it under stress, but for your every day person to do it seems highly unlikely. And like medical professionals advise, you should call 911 and let the professionals who actually know what their doing deal with it. if she or any of us tried without any clue, we could likely injure said person even more. Again though, not excusing her actions
The fact that the sister gave the baby back to her mentally disturbed sister who had already said she was afraid she would hurt the baby and was hearing voices "after she calmed down" is just mind boggling. Poor Otty and poor baby. Such a horrific tragedy that never should have happened.
I 100% agree all that good of being avoided she could of kept the baby
It’s not her sisters job to take care of her baby.
@@jasoncaldwell0613nobody’s saying it is, but if someone’s telling you they’re gonna hurt their baby cause of the voices in their head and is practically begging u to take the baby from them why on earth would you give it back to them?? she knew that otty had struggled w mental health issues too?? like this could’ve been avoided
@@jasoncaldwell0613It quite literally was her job. otty was put in the care of her sister, it was absolutely her sisters job to make sure she was going to be okay.
@@mwag8403 Please stop abusing the word: literally. From the sound of her sister, she was likely not competent to assume this responsibility. Unless you know otherwise and I doubt you do, her sister did not become her legal guardian. Please except the reality, that some people are not curable, and NEVER will be. Both the mother and the sister were too stupid to make the correct choice: tell CPS about her history, decline involvement and insist that the baby be adopted, immediately. That would have been both intelligent and responsible.
I’m so glad I found one of ur other channels, I can’t get enough of ur voice fr if I was a millionaire I’d give it all to u just to continue hearing ur voice
Thank you for all you do and continue to do
The chimp one made me annyoed, "he ripped her face off"
officer: is Ur friEND oK?
You can survive with your face off for a long time I’ve seen cartel videos people have survived hours
@@Cvollo yep I know
@@Cvollo true but its the fact the person asked if they're OK
And then he wants her to check on her like wtf. Why? So she can get attacked too. Dude needs a different job.
@@Cvollo yea but they didn't ask if her friend was ALIVE, they asked if her friend was "ok", like wtf do you mean of course she's not ok half of her face is being ripped off..
the little twelve year old girl who jumped over her sister to save her life is the f**king bravest person ive ever heard of. That little girl deserves the world, rest in peace little angel, ive never met you but you have a special place in my heart, right next to your sister, love.
He actually had it backwards kierstan (the one who tried to save her sister) was the one who survived, sadly her sister passed.
@@alexxhobbs7575 that’s even more tragic, knowing you tried but couldn’t save her. Horrible mother.
That girl who jummed is still alive...d other1 is dead..wht ur msg mean by right nxt to ur sister?
@@advocatesmitataru3554 she says they have a place in her heart right next to each other. Don't think about it too hard.
What time of the video did he mention her?
Great videos, thank you for your hard work.
I listen to a lot of these and the most frustrating and emotional things for me is that so many people ask for help only to be rejected. Don't blame them if you won't help them
The fact that the officers in the first call actually required psychological help really says how horrific of a sight they must have found.
I'm sure that Otty's sister needed a lot of support too. And that dispatcher was a jackass.
all first responders are affected by children the most
I hope they got the help they needed.
@@aloysiusdevanderabercrombi470 how...
Aloysius Devander Abercrombie right! they were really rude and impatient while ottys sister was in a clear state of panic.
My heart absolutely breaks for Otty. She did everything she could to get help and the doctors told her no, she didn’t need to be put on the unit, then her sister gave her back the baby even though she’d given Scotty to her several times and they all knew she was hearing voices and having hallucinations. Everyone who was supposed to help her failed, that just breaks my heart. You can only do so much to help yourself when you are so severely ill and your support system isn’t listening.
Idubidably!!!
I agree with you 100%!! Just the fact alone that she ate the baby tells us, mental illness is at play here. Then you add all the people who failed her when she was trying to get her mind well again and it becomes something entirely different than other premeditated murders.
Exactly. Alot of ppl with mental illness never get the help they truly need. She wanted the help, she knew she was getting bad off but noone took her serious. I feel for her. Its so sad about her baby. If they would’ve listened to her then scotty may still be alive.
@@trickortrump3292 her saying she was gagging but the voices kept telling her to eat it breaks my heart. She was so sick and tried so hard to get help. I feel like guilt will eat her alive in her sane moments
Right...she needed help and she tried to get it. The baby and her didnt need to be in the same home as each other
Thank you for your work!!
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That is incredibly sad. She asked and begged everyone for help. Even handed her baby to her sister and TOLD her she was seeing things and the babies face was changing. Damn man.
@@UmatsuObossa the thing is when you’re like this you don’t really have a sense of what’s right or wrong, you’re not aware you’re doing anything bad until it’s over, so it’s not that she “listened” to the voices she just wasn’t aware *in the moment* that it was a bad thing bc it felt real and like it was what she was suppose to be doing. i hope this make sense :)
@@ginnybean838 Still...yes and no. I was on nitrous oxide for a dentist appt once, and I was definitely experiencing delusions, I felt like I had been in the dentist chair since the dawn of time and world be forever into the future as well, but even though I felt that way, I still also knew that wasn't actually right. Also in a fit of depression once I took a shitton of benedryl and was definitely getting weird delusions from that. I was talking to a friend and telling him I didn't know if I was even actually talking to him, or if what I was saying was gibberish or not. But when I sobered up, everything I'd thought I'd said, I'd actually said, and I'd never behaved irrationally the entire time. It could be something with my brain, maybe I'm extraordinarily grounded in reality or something. Everything I've ever done that has made others supposedly lose control of themselves, I never came close.
@@UmatsuObossa her delusions aren’t from drugs it’s different
@@UmatsuObossa
The thing is, when you’re being hounded by voices, when reality begins to change, your brain, especially when it is purely your brain that is doing this to you. When she was in her psychosis, she has no sense of anything but what her brain is doing to her- believing she has a demon/needs to get the demon out. It is clear that her psychosis took over and won, she was no longer herself and she’ll forever have to live with knowing she did it, even though it wasn’t entirely her fault.
@@UmatsuObossa Though we get where your coming from, but that was a one time thing for you. Otty was experiencing it constantly and she tried to get help for it but she couldn’t pay for it. Please be mindful and don’t compare your experiences to something so big when yours is so small. Your sane. She is not. Otty took drugs constantly, you took them for whatever reasons you needed them for.
The way she said "I killed my children" was so cold, that sent shivers down my spine.
right?? "I killed my children, one of them's still alive though. Hurry up" wtf?
Yeah, even the 911 operator was like "excuse me". I bet even she was shocked at how cold she was.
so cold.
Wency HD she said it calmly too , god she’s sick
Julio Rodriguez/ She said it in the most MONOTONE voice ever. Her statement afterwards proves how cold it is when she says something like "Get here quick one of them wants to live". It just makes the "I killed my children", as her first statement macabre
Not many people would take the time to redo old videos to make them better. Great job!
I have to say this is my first video that I seen of yours and I'm intrigued to see the downgrade lol just to see the difference and I just subscribe because I love what your doing and you are excellent sir!
Mother: "Hey, sis I'm hearing voices and Satan wants me to kill my son." Sister: "Ok, here's your kid back." sickening.
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!! Why would she give the baby back to her when she’s saying the baby’s face is changing and she’s hearing voices?! 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
I wonder if she can look at herself after knowing she could’ve prevented that by just keeping the baby in her room.
The sister could have prevented it, yeah, but that's not the sickening part. The sickening part is our healthcare. She could have gotten better help a lot faster, had she been able to afford it and been taken seriously. Hospitals act like everyone is out for pain pills or drugs of some sort, and mental health professionals don't validate the severity of your illness. Drugs are expensive, visits and check-ups are expensive, and there is not a whole lot of empathy in these professions. It's irresponsible of the sister, but it's more irresponsible of the healthcare system that fails every American.
Right
The whole situation was tragic but we need to remember that she isn’t a trained medical person and that Otto had suffered psychiatric issues for quite a while so she may not have been able to judge how abnormal her behaviour was. It is so sad that Otto wasn’t able to get the appropriate treatment she needed.
@Jedi Patriot, @your sleep paralysis, @Ja Nay, @Delphine, the worst Blade ever, @lyrics Marie, please think about this: everything is generally completely clear in hindsight. think of someone you know who has a mental illness, or even someone who is struggling with addiction (sometimes even someone just struggling with a bad habit is similar), both people who have heard voices and been on drugs (not saying it has to be both b/c the drugs made her worse in this situation) have been able to recover and live productive lives, managing their lives, maybe having to deal with a set-back once or twice.
it's very easy for us to sit here with all the information after it had happened but she had been doing better. this is unfortunately pretty common, how many times do you hear about a mass shooter and people say omg! he was totally normal or this guy didn't bother anyone. putting the blame on family members, who neither have the training to recognize things a layman wouldn't and is most likely trying to do her best, helping her sister take care of her mental health, which can be a nightmare through the nature of many mental health issues, while having her live with her and the newborn, which on top of just helping would raise daily stress levels even more, clouding judgement, to intermittently raising the newborn while trying to asses when and if the sister is doing better to take care of the child.
can you imagine living like that and trying to function day-to-day, then when you see your loved one doing well. as the mother, she has the right to, on top of it being a relief for the family member, not just because of the responsibility but being happy seeing your family member starting to do well, especially with a child. like @Masha Spikego, the sister was not trained to tell if she was okay and a medical professional could have just as easily said she was okay and then this happened. that's part of the insidiousness of mental illness. mental health in this country in general needs a better system but it's hard enough as it is, maybe one day we will get there.
The lady who stabbed her daughters calling her daughter "baby" as she's lying there bleeding out is so cold. That lady is deranged.
Facts
she spoke of them as objects.. " one is dead dead but the other one is alive and wants to be saved." THOSE ARE YOUR CHILDREN HOW COULD YOU!!!! omggg i'm so angryyyyyyyyy
She stabs her kids out in the middle of friggin nowhere and then gets snippy when the ambulance takes too long.
They should’ve gave her the death penalty still
I guess you don't understand mental illness. It's not so simple as good abd evil.
This was one of the gnarliest videos I’ve ever listened too
I’m devastated at TH-cam!!! Another channel they unsubd me from & it must have been ages ago because I’d frequently watch your content then it just disappeared until I finally had this pop up in my recommended. I’ve had yt do it numerous times, awesome to be back urmaker 🎉👍
So happy you found a way back.
Time for you to binge!
“I get to see my mom tomorrow! Yay!” So heartbreaking..
J Juice I don’t think that’s the right response
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@@gbands9699 wtf is wrong with you
i read this comment before i started watching, I've now watched all of it and i didn't hear anyone say that in any part of it :/
@@SouthEastSJ The daughter posted in on social media (My stupid as cant remember what it was) The day before her mom stabbed her.
I don't know why I'm listening to these calls but this is horribly terrifying.
Its demonic
Me too dude it makes me so sad and hate humans even more but yet I can't stop myself from listening. How does a mother/Friend/Lover even do this hanus crimes against their loved ones. Makes me sick to the stomach
I fall down these holes of listening to this stuff, worryingly often 😅 I guess it's the side of me drawn to morbid stuff like everyone else like ya know conspiracy theories a campfire tales. I think it is important to monitor your mental health through these though, that's absolutely vital-- people can be absolutely horrifying for sure.
It gives us a sick thrill... in our otherwise dull lives
I’m listening to this at 2:35am! I don’t wanna sleep anymore but I have class in the morning
I appreciate your videos! Do not be so damn hard on yourself!! Thank you for sharing these harrowing stories!
Just found this channel and thank God your videos are very informative and detailed not just random videos of stuff! I had forgot all about Travis the Chimp😂😊
Right after she tried to kill her daughters “hold on a second, yeah sweetie what’s wrong”
I effin hate debra
Sadly that was the real Deborah answering her daughter in distress, o grew up with a mom with multiple personality disorder, her other personality won, took over, my mother took off with my youngest sister leaving my family. I went to live with my mom around 16, well watching her go from personality from personality was devastating..
Right! That was so whicked! And calling the kid baby while she says she cant help her? Im assumming she came to her senses somehow before finishing off the second child. Im a bit surprised the surviving daughter was given time to chat w her mother who tried murdering her, but maybe it gave the girl closure. I know love is bigger than most things someone can do thats bad, but damn...
when the mom said that i got pissed, you just tried to murder your kids only to be like "hold on a second, yeah sweetie what’s wrong" like why do that
she did that for a reason she had to keep it cool because she doesn’t know what debra was capable of. Trying to make her seem “safe” but really it was so she could calm down and the police can get her
How do you kill one of your kids, and try to kill your other then say "what baby?" You're a true monster!
That made me shiver!
I like to think she was cursing at her. The daughter I mean.
Mental illness can be a monster
She was mentally ill she tried to get help but the system failed her
Ohh man that what shooked me, how in the world!!!
You did a great job. Keep them coming. 😮❤❤
Very sad situations but great video!
Respect dispatchers for remaining totally calm when people say stuff like “hi I just killed my children”
real talk
For reallll. It's gotta be so hard to call that woman 'sweetie' and act like she didn't just slaughter her children.
Or "my chimpanzee ripped my girlfriend's face off and ripped her apart."
I mean how do you not even REMOTELY question that or reply SHOCKED even for a millisecond!
HOW DO YOU PREPARE FOR A CALL LIKE THAT?!
True.. because if i was the dispatcher, i would yelled and angry
straight up just said excuse me?
The woman who found the abandoned baby in the trash showed a billion times more concern and love for that baby that wasn’t even hers than that monster Debra showed for her children ...
Exactly!! Very very sad 😢 how could someone harm a child? I just don't get it...smh 😩
I know I agree.. so sad and senseless uch
Ghosts, Satans and demons are everywhere. They will take advantage on weak ppl if they had a chance. Depression ppl have weak souls so dont ignore them. Suiciders are also get disturbed by Satans. When they hear things means their condition are getting worse. Dont ignore them until they have to kill somebody and Then you panick. These kinds of ppl need to be treated. If they ignored, their condition can be worsen. Their body need to be 'cleanse'. I know this because im a Muslim. Alhamdulillah 😇
Asian Female Ghosts? Satans? Demons I understand but there’s only one Satan, and ghosts aren’t evil they can be but they’re people that haven’t passed on to the afterlife.
Yeah listening to that part was like a breathe of fresh air after hearing about Debra's horrible killing. It's like I almost lost touch of the good people in the world. Its scary how people go insane and do things like this to other innocent people. Just imagining myself being a physco makes me feel disgusting
You are doing great I love your shows a lot of love and a lot of information and it's great now that you're putting pictures and texts and makes a lot easier for people with ADHD like me so thank you so much big hugs
Great job I couldn't look away!
The woman who murdered her own children is a monster. She was so calm and talked to her daughter who was dying as if nothing happened. It makes me nauseous to think that she did that with seemingly no remorse
you can hear reality slowly set in and she gets desperate to have her helped. sucks that these crazy people end up regretting their actions so soon after but not soon enough to prevent it.
@Baby Nunu the first one was mentally ill and it really wasn't her fault. She had repeatedly asked for help from her family and from the doctors. The second one wasn't mentally ill. She was just a spiteful bitch who took her anger out on her poor daughters.
@@shreyamishra6310 no she had some psychiatric problems too... did you not see the part where she was suicidal? I mean yeah still, no excuse, and she prbly still wanted revenge. Just be aware tho
exactly like it’s disgusting
Yeah and she wanted to be a nurse...
Woman who has an extensive history of psychosis as well as suicidal and homicidal thoughts: Please admit me to the hospital. I am hearing voices telling me to kill my son, and he's not safe with me.
Hospital: lol no you're fine
Woman: Sister, please take my child. I am hearing voices telling me to kill him, and he's not safe with me.
Sister: lol no you're fine
Woman: *kills child*
Everyone: OMG how could she?? No one saw this coming how did this happen? Why didn't she just reach out???
As someone who struggles with hallucinations and delusions as part of my mental health disorder this shit pisses me off so badly. Literally the first and last thing they teach you in any kind of mental health treatment is to reach out for help if you need it. How are people supposed to get help if it will fall on deaf ears? Of course the child is a victim and was severely wronged but in this situation the mother is just as much a victim. Not only does she have schizophrenia to deal with, but now she has to live with what she's done on top of a manslaughter charge when the situation could have been avoided so easily.
bruh
The only valid comment
Ikr. Im kinda pissed to the sister, she should took the baby away and not let otty come back to the baby again. Otty said herself, and they clearly knows she is mentally unstable. I feel sorry to otty and the baby :(
This is why society is so f**ked up.
As someone with psychosis, I agree.
Sometimes illnesses like this are heavily influenced by our emotions. Turning that mother away constantly when she was begging for help, was a dick move.
It's the same thing with suicidal people. Others ignore their cries for help, but once they take their life, then everyone makes a surprised pikachu face because they "didn't know what happened".
Interesting videos. Keep them coming
Wow these video's are great and you did a awesome job keep up the great work ❤
Otty tried to get help because she knew her baby was in danger. Everyone failed that baby. So sad.
Yeah yeah
I know Otty Sanchez as a friend and coworker. I do know she and her family repeatedly asked for help, made numerous trips to doctors and ERs. All in vain. To listen to people on a daily basis state that she should be killed, dragged in the streets, set on fire in the street and so on took a toll on all of us who knew her. She is in the state mental hospital and will not be released. Only her family can visit. She has to live with this. I know for a fact she loved Stephen with all her heart and would never under any normal circumstance EVER hurt him. She would have died to protect him. The health care system and doctors let her down at every turn. Thank you for realizing the truth.
The one person that failed that baby the most was otty. Idk why ppl keep trying to pass the blame off of the killer.
They should have listened to Otty when she told them to take her to the mental hospital place..
@@Tsiri09 Yeah, she was telling them "I need to go to the mental hospital" But they didn't listen.. and when she couldn't afford the prescription, they should have tried to help her the best they could by paying for it or something.
That dispatcher talking to Debra deserves some damn recognition for not going there herself and ripping that thing to shreds. She did such a great job.
Well she cant do that...
Shorya Cione well duh 🙄
You did a good job putting all of this together!! Enjoyed it forsure!! Traumatized but okay lol
Bro your voice is strenuous to listen 😢 you had a free ghost sound effect really., thought of listening before i fall asleep but i instantly thought of listening at noontime 😂
“tell them don’t shoot me I don’t want to be shot” well the kids ain’t want to get stabbed either now did they Debra?
Right?!
facts
Nahh fr tho 😂🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
That's weird, I heard her say she's got an SKS and coppers ain't taking her alive....bring it.
I said the same thing when I heard that... she has sum nerve
“I just killed my children.”
“... excuse me?”
I felt bad for laughing, but surely the operator didn’t expect that to be the first words.
I feel the same way when she said "Bitch. Call them!" I shouldn't have chuckled but just, the delivery of that phrase.
I did not like that dispatcher. She seemed to be rather flippant, and she kept calling this killer "Honey, sweetie", etc...that's not a good way to get someone to cooperate. IDK, she just seemed very unprofessional.
@Hudson Furtado I understand all that, the problem I had was that she didn't seem to be actually being kind. It came across to me as condescending and flippant. Where I'm from, calling someone you don't know "honey", "sweetie", etc. is considred condescending and rude.
Hudson Furtado I think she just meant that using “honey” and “sweetie” wasn’t a good idea. Lots of people find that condescending if it’s a stranger calling them that, meaning they’d be less inclined to listen.
@@needtopoonow308 EXACTLY! Thank you! I work in customer service, where kindness is the number 1 priority and one of the first things they teach new people is to NOT use terms of endearment like that.
Wow interesting Sir pretty good plus your commentary was perfect Keep your work going Sorry to the people and their families
The second dispatcher is so good. The way the woman talks to her, saying "bitch" and other things, and the dispatcher immediately understands the case, is surprising. I would have said something like "try not killing your children first" when she started telling them to hurry up
Lol. And that's why there's sensitivity training for jobs like that 😂
You would have got her other kid killed then
Imagine growing up with a mother like this...
That cold hearted beast...
i could never call a lady who just stab her children "sweetie" or "darling"
@@lizzy2211 she's being as nice as she can so the mother doesn't harm the living child.
The sister that jumped infront of the other sister was a hero, she died saving her sister. Poor girl
It was actually the younger sister that died, she unfortunatelly couldn't save her, the creator corrected himself in the comments
ok
She gave her life for another . This is the ultimate sacrifice. She is in paradise forever and ever.
@@bruceleehee9267
She survived, the sister she was trying to save died. Sad.
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Your remixes are just as awesome as your originals.