Speaking as a guy who works in tech: I like my regulators as dumb as possible. Adding some smart functions, like a classic transmitter, is cool, but only if it’s just a minor inconvenience when it breaks. The price is just the buy-in cost. Think about the maintenance costs for special hoses, special regulator services, etc. Additionally, I can get a standard rubber hose for my regulator anywhere in the world - try doing that with these special parts. Special parts secure a persistent income for the manufacturer. The next step will likely be a subscription model. Function-wise, I don’t know who would benefit from the trim feature - if you have bad trim, a gyroscope won’t fix it. (Use the extra money you save from buying this regulator to hire an instructor instead.) The LED indicator, I understood as a "how much pressure is left in the tank" feature, like Mares does with their transmitters, and it’s actually a nice feature for easily checking your buddy’s tank. It’s nice near the first stage, but I wouldn’t pay extra for a duplicate LED in the second stage.
I love seeing innovation in SCUBA! We need more of it! This is how we get to things that will actually be useful, companies trying things out and really going out on a limb. I am not their target audience (charters that do a lot of rentals maybe? and will get the benefit from a lot of these connected devices), but I wish them all the best so we can keep getting innovative products in SCUBA and not be suck in 1960.
I completely agree! Innovation is good! Even though I think they missed their mark it still shows that there are people working on developing new things! The lights on the transmitter seem useful, but I think it would be better as a separate unit. Maybe it will become the standard in the future, who knows
A bankrupt company that can't reliably deliver underwater lights and conventional regulator service kits is not who I'd trust to support an electronic system....
Am I tempted to switch from a shearwater dive computer and scubapro regulator to try the kitchen faucet with lights? No. Aqualung will not respond to emails about issues with an i300c, dive computer. The kitchen faucet thing will need excellent customer support and Aqualung has no customer support. I won't buy anything more complex than dive boots from Aqualung.
I'm intrigued by it and I like the idea of 1st stage with a built in transmitter, apart from that there seems to be a lot more unnecessary functions and I'm not a fan of a proprietary hose, apart from that I'm more curious about what servicing it will be like.
One genuinuely useful inovation, and that is the built in 1st stage wireless pressure transmitter! And honestly, this would be better served, imo, by having a 1st stage with a HP port at the top or bottom centre, into which you could then directly screw any pressure transmitter........
I like it. If you want to use it, you need to go to whole gear change. I think that in maybe 10 years, someone will make some kind of MIDI standard, like in the musical instruments industry, where now you can connect instruments from different manufacturers. Otherwise, this will be expensive and not many people will use it.
Any innovation, especially involving electronics, will meet a lot of resistance from divers, especially experienced tech oriented divers. It's a difficult barrier to overcome.
Looks interesting. A truly innovative approach. It can improve safety on one hand, but it also introduces significant complexity and potential failure points on the other hand. Time will tell if it actually makes sense and if it's worth it. Plus it obviously locks you into a proprietary eco-system that's probably not compatible with anything else (e.g. can you attach a standard second stage to this fancy first stage?). It would be cool if it was e.g. compatible with the Garmin sonar transmitters and dive computers (but I doubt that it will be).
#ASK MARK# Hello Mark I have a question about cylinder valve threads. If one was to relocate to south east Asia is there a common valve thread? Finding shops with setups for back mounting doubles is a bit iffy so if relocating to south east Asia is permanent and purchase of cylinders is an option to dive with doubles and to remove the common manifold and install left hand and right hand plugs to side mount in the proper configuration in the states it is a bit cheaper to purchase and relocate. What are your thoughts!
I thought Aqualung was in a state of disarray? Looks like an interesting product and I would consider this product, but I’m worried about if there will be support.
At least they're not cramming the press release with "Powered by Artificial Intelligence". I'm with others on this, I like my primary kit dumb. Sure I have a transmitter but I can just look at my SPG if that goes wrong. I have two dive computers and a buddy.
If you look at this through the lens of the target audience being dive shops, it starts to make some logical sense. An LED on the first stage seems useless except maybe for instructors to monitor their students. I could see shops potentially liking the "keep an eye on all your students" boat-side monitoring, but to me, that just seems like a crutch. If I saw a dive op with this level of monitoring, I would be very skeptical and think their instructors aren't very good or attentive. The trim indicator, like you said, would definitely be for learning or dialing in gear initially. Kind of neat to be able to monitor your buddy's air on your computer, but that's old tech - my Galileo Sol (2008 tech) can do that. Not having a "guide me back to the boat" feature seems like a big miss in any system like this.
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Did anyone tell these guys that colors change with depth?
Always enjoy seeing the new products coming out. Some of the new features on the Aquasense seem unnecessary, gimicky and more things to breakdown. Will wait and see what the end users think after a period of time. Reminds me of commercial aircraft that have been designed to be far more complex than necessary and the inherent dangers it creates. With innovation comes great new ideas and others that should be tossed.
Seems like it'd be great for high end dive yachts, better surface support for divers, the guides better able to monitor the clients stress levels through those colour coded lights, the boat being able to adjust the plan for the day or hang down deco bottles based on live data from the computer etc. Not for regular divers having their own personal kit but not their own personal crewed boat though. If it is deemed to be reliable after years of use it might even be great for expeditions
People don't need a trim sensor. Once they know HOW to get a horizontal trim, it's not difficult to do and certainly doesn't require monitoring every dive.
I think for this kind of technology to be adopted by the industry, standardization between companies is going to be necessary. Especially between Shearwater and Garmin.
"Aqualung sonar underwater communication." The audible chirps on the Garmin system turned off myself and several dive buddies when we were researching transmitters... If the AL system is similar, it's going to be a dealbreaker for a lot of people (who will them just go to shearwater, as they should).
This reminds me of those flashy kickstarters from ten years ago (ie the Star Wars Jedi style rebreather that would pull oxygen from the water or fins that could attach to the toe box of your boots with magnets). Products that were made to drum up investment without offering any real solutions or improvements for divers. These fit that description. What problems do these solve that the aqua lung calypso package doesn’t? If anything, this will be a huge step down from even the most basic of regulator packages. How repairable are these? Where is the Octo (the port for the primary regulator is massive so we should be able to see it) . Do we need a flashing light to tell us that the other divers are breathing? Don’t the bubbles we see with our eyes and the hiss of the regulators we hear with our ears tell us that? These feel uneconomical and unnecessary
Launching at CES with prototypes and renders with a release date a year out, all whilst calling for investors, just points to the continued desperate financial times Aqualung is in. Maybe Barings Bank, the relunctant primary shareholder holding the bag of debt, is just window dressing to try to increase value. That aside, Aqualung computers have really poor reliability. Putting their electronics in your reg also? No thanks. I'll stick with a quality reliable workhorse regulator, Shearwater and a transmitter I can use on anything. Metrics about breathing rates is a sideshow.
This seems totally unnecessary and complex. Not to mention being forced into one ecosystem. No thanks I like my flexibility. Ill stick with my shearwater computers, regs of my choice. This seems geared to younger flashy tech focused new divers.
I am all for truly innovative equipment in the SCUBA industry. I am saddened by the SONAR usage, if it is like how it has been implemented in other SCUBA gear, incessant beeping is not something I would be interested in hearing while I am underwater. A different hose. Ugh: what if it breaks/leaks? It isn't like I could go to my dive shop and get any one hose sitting on a shelf.
Speaking as a guy who works in tech: I like my regulators as dumb as possible. Adding some smart functions, like a classic transmitter, is cool, but only if it’s just a minor inconvenience when it breaks.
The price is just the buy-in cost. Think about the maintenance costs for special hoses, special regulator services, etc. Additionally, I can get a standard rubber hose for my regulator anywhere in the world - try doing that with these special parts.
Special parts secure a persistent income for the manufacturer. The next step will likely be a subscription model.
Function-wise, I don’t know who would benefit from the trim feature - if you have bad trim, a gyroscope won’t fix it. (Use the extra money you save from buying this regulator to hire an instructor instead.)
The LED indicator, I understood as a "how much pressure is left in the tank" feature, like Mares does with their transmitters, and it’s actually a nice feature for easily checking your buddy’s tank. It’s nice near the first stage, but I wouldn’t pay extra for a duplicate LED in the second stage.
@@Homie111092 I agree. I'm still on my 30 year old Apex regs, serviced yearly. Less to break. More reliable. Just use your proper skills for the rest.
We all love closed product ecosystem that throws standards out of the window!
Just one second stage? Didn't see any octo ports on that reg...
The saying “ If it ain’t broke -Don’t fix it” applies. My XTX50’s are damn good, and will be for many years. And I don’t need to charge them.
I love seeing innovation in SCUBA! We need more of it! This is how we get to things that will actually be useful, companies trying things out and really going out on a limb. I am not their target audience (charters that do a lot of rentals maybe? and will get the benefit from a lot of these connected devices), but I wish them all the best so we can keep getting innovative products in SCUBA and not be suck in 1960.
I completely agree! Innovation is good! Even though I think they missed their mark it still shows that there are people working on developing new things! The lights on the transmitter seem useful, but I think it would be better as a separate unit. Maybe it will become the standard in the future, who knows
A bankrupt company that can't reliably deliver underwater lights and conventional regulator service kits is not who I'd trust to support an electronic system....
Yeap “truly true”
Am I tempted to switch from a shearwater dive computer and scubapro regulator to try the kitchen faucet with lights? No. Aqualung will not respond to emails about issues with an i300c, dive computer. The kitchen faucet thing will need excellent customer support and Aqualung has no customer support. I won't buy anything more complex than dive boots from Aqualung.
I'm intrigued by it and I like the idea of 1st stage with a built in transmitter, apart from that there seems to be a lot more unnecessary functions and I'm not a fan of a proprietary hose, apart from that I'm more curious about what servicing it will be like.
One genuinuely useful inovation, and that is the built in 1st stage wireless pressure transmitter! And honestly, this would be better served, imo, by having a 1st stage with a HP port at the top or bottom centre, into which you could then directly screw any pressure transmitter........
I like it. If you want to use it, you need to go to whole gear change. I think that in maybe 10 years, someone will make some kind of MIDI standard, like in the musical instruments industry, where now you can connect instruments from different manufacturers. Otherwise, this will be expensive and not many people will use it.
I'll be the first to say it: AquaNonsense
Interesting idea, I’m excited to see how and what this develops into in the future.
Any innovation, especially involving electronics, will meet a lot of resistance from divers, especially experienced tech oriented divers. It's a difficult barrier to overcome.
Looks interesting. A truly innovative approach. It can improve safety on one hand, but it also introduces significant complexity and potential failure points on the other hand. Time will tell if it actually makes sense and if it's worth it. Plus it obviously locks you into a proprietary eco-system that's probably not compatible with anything else (e.g. can you attach a standard second stage to this fancy first stage?). It would be cool if it was e.g. compatible with the Garmin sonar transmitters and dive computers (but I doubt that it will be).
Innovation requires...innovation. Bless the early adopters who brave the unknown to move us all forward.
Every gamer knows HP means Health Points. If it gets low, you need a healthpack, medicinal berries, or just a soda. If it hits 0, you died.
#ASK MARK# Hello Mark I have a question about cylinder valve threads. If one was to relocate to south east Asia is there a common valve thread? Finding shops with setups for back mounting doubles is a bit iffy so if relocating to south east Asia is permanent and purchase of cylinders is an option to dive with doubles and to remove the common manifold and install left hand and right hand plugs to side mount in the proper configuration in the states it is a bit cheaper to purchase and relocate. What are your thoughts!
Where and how is backup regulator attached?
I thought Aqualung was in a state of disarray? Looks like an interesting product and I would consider this product, but I’m worried about if there will be support.
At least they're not cramming the press release with "Powered by Artificial Intelligence". I'm with others on this, I like my primary kit dumb. Sure I have a transmitter but I can just look at my SPG if that goes wrong. I have two dive computers and a buddy.
Pretty cool use of all the new technology to make a better product. Curious to see if other manufacturers follow suit
Even my 2x MTX-RC can't afford to buy 1 of this. Now if they can make a wireless hose
I definitely know what kind of diver they’re targeting with this. It’s good to see innovation, and I can’t blame them for trying.
If you look at this through the lens of the target audience being dive shops, it starts to make some logical sense. An LED on the first stage seems useless except maybe for instructors to monitor their students. I could see shops potentially liking the "keep an eye on all your students" boat-side monitoring, but to me, that just seems like a crutch. If I saw a dive op with this level of monitoring, I would be very skeptical and think their instructors aren't very good or attentive. The trim indicator, like you said, would definitely be for learning or dialing in gear initially.
Kind of neat to be able to monitor your buddy's air on your computer, but that's old tech - my Galileo Sol (2008 tech) can do that. Not having a "guide me back to the boat" feature seems like a big miss in any system like this.
Did anyone tell these guys that colors change with depth?
This seem more geared for dive centers for training
Making something like this so divers think they need it but they don’t . ITS A TRAP 😂
it all seems so incredibly unnecessary
Always enjoy seeing the new products coming out. Some of the new features on the Aquasense seem unnecessary, gimicky and more things to breakdown. Will wait and see what the end users think after a period of time. Reminds me of commercial aircraft that have been designed to be far more complex than necessary and the inherent dangers it creates. With innovation comes great new ideas and others that should be tossed.
But why?!
Seems like it'd be great for high end dive yachts, better surface support for divers, the guides better able to monitor the clients stress levels through those colour coded lights, the boat being able to adjust the plan for the day or hang down deco bottles based on live data from the computer etc.
Not for regular divers having their own personal kit but not their own personal crewed boat though.
If it is deemed to be reliable after years of use it might even be great for expeditions
People don't need a trim sensor. Once they know HOW to get a horizontal trim, it's not difficult to do and certainly doesn't require monitoring every dive.
I think for this kind of technology to be adopted by the industry, standardization between companies is going to be necessary. Especially between Shearwater and Garmin.
Aqualung transmitters already “speak” with Shearwater and Oceanic computers. Garmin uses sonar, maybe your wish might come true!
@mwhassan70 I know, I use al transmitters for my rec regulators
@mwhassan70 way cheaper used than the swift tx
It would be more useful for Aqualung to solve the common problem of popping buttons on their computers like i330R !
Soon we will be able to to do social media under water
They forgot to mention A.I. 🤣 (not Air Integrated, the other A.I.)
There is inherent difficulty with a salt water environment. But the research is promising.
Scuba gear for the strava crowd, they're gonna be real disappointed when they realize they cant post status updates at 60ft.
"Aqualung sonar underwater communication." The audible chirps on the Garmin system turned off myself and several dive buddies when we were researching transmitters... If the AL system is similar, it's going to be a dealbreaker for a lot of people (who will them just go to shearwater, as they should).
Waste of money and to much to go wrong
I hope there is no chatgpt built in ......
aquanonsense
Nah. Can't see it personally....€1299?!...
This reminds me of those flashy kickstarters from ten years ago (ie the Star Wars Jedi style rebreather that would pull oxygen from the water or fins that could attach to the toe box of your boots with magnets). Products that were made to drum up investment without offering any real solutions or improvements for divers.
These fit that description. What problems do these solve that the aqua lung calypso package doesn’t? If anything, this will be a huge step down from even the most basic of regulator packages. How repairable are these? Where is the Octo (the port for the primary regulator is massive so we should be able to see it) . Do we need a flashing light to tell us that the other divers are breathing? Don’t the bubbles we see with our eyes and the hiss of the regulators we hear with our ears tell us that?
These feel uneconomical and unnecessary
Did somebody actually ask a question that this is the answer to?
Launching at CES with prototypes and renders with a release date a year out, all whilst calling for investors, just points to the continued desperate financial times Aqualung is in. Maybe Barings Bank, the relunctant primary shareholder holding the bag of debt, is just window dressing to try to increase value. That aside, Aqualung computers have really poor reliability. Putting their electronics in your reg also? No thanks. I'll stick with a quality reliable workhorse regulator, Shearwater and a transmitter I can use on anything. Metrics about breathing rates is a sideshow.
well, that sucks
Please check the Spanish dubbing. It ends by saying: I wish you a certain death. 😅
Oof, let me take a look
yea, nah. probably going to be dead in the water (pun intended)
This seems totally unnecessary and complex. Not to mention being forced into one ecosystem. No thanks I like my flexibility. Ill stick with my shearwater computers, regs of my choice.
This seems geared to younger flashy tech focused new divers.
I am all for truly innovative equipment in the SCUBA industry.
I am saddened by the SONAR usage, if it is like how it has been implemented in other SCUBA gear, incessant beeping is not something I would be interested in hearing while I am underwater.
A different hose. Ugh: what if it breaks/leaks? It isn't like I could go to my dive shop and get any one hose sitting on a shelf.