My mom used to tell the same story on my birthday each year. She brought me to church 3 days after I was born. It was Mother’s Day. They were passing out special bouquets to certain moms - oldest mom, mom with the most kids, etc. So every year my mom reminded me that she “won a bouquet for mom with the youngest baby! Everyone gushed over how small you were!” I was three days old being passed around like a doll and my mother won a prize for that. 🤪
i don't see enough people talking about how disrespectful this probably feels to real parents who have lost their children, to have such a ceremony parodied by bitter abusers
Moms who have lost children and moms who’ve miscarried and moms whose children have terminal illnesses are probably very insulted by this vulgar display of narcissism from parents who caused tremendous harm to their own kids.
More likely, the therapist said something like "It seems like your mother is very involved in your life. " which caused the daughter to realize that her mother was too involved in her life and start to set boundaries.
100%, it’s just a thought-stopping cliche they try to use on you (and themselves) to dissociate themselves from the responsibility for their actions. Obviously no one arguing with someone expects them to travel into the past and make a different decision
Ooooh what if she's trying to go viral in hopes her daughter sees it or becomes aware of her attempts as punishment or force her way back into her life even if its just online?
@@Slappap not even for the daughter to see it. For everyone to know that her online fame is bigger than her daughter (aka she is more likeable and therefore right).
lmao exactly. What's hilarious is the majority of her commentors tell her she's wrong and instead she looks for the 1% who don't have their kids either. Why would you take advise from those who don't have their kids
It blows my mind that Dianne doesn’t realize that these videos are the nail in the coffin for ANY chance she ever had to reconcile with her daughter. This IS NOT “leaving the door open.” It’s boarding up the whole house.
I'm not giving diane any agency in whether or not that relationship is closed. She didn't board up the house - she's making her daughter slam the door closed, not look back and feel validated in how all these people outside of Diane's circle see her
Luckily grandparents rights only apply when the grandparents are deeply involved in the grandchild’s life and the parents suddenly separated them. That’s what makes it so funny when crappy grandparents who’ve never met their grandchildren say they’re going to court for grandparent’s rights!!!!!
In her head, she makes up scenarios where her children come back to her and she rejects them with laughter and a smile. Because this woman is all about payback and revenge, making someone "pay" for what they did
yeah agre if it was coming from love she would take accountability and work on her part of teh relationship... but no i feel this is like spitefuland petty.....shes nasty..
I also suspect that Diane is doing real harm to any estranged parents who might've had a chance to reconcile, but then they blow it by listening to this person.
The recurrent theme of each and every one of these - "I am a narcissist and am outraged by the loss of supply, therefore I will seek supply from this grifter on teh interwebz."
It's wild to me that these parents would rather "heal" and do things like hold a funeral or make themselves a birthday cake than entertain the idea that maybe they need to make changes to meet their children's boundaries.
I'm estranged from my mom. She has spent years going back and forth between I love my daughters to saying she wishes we were never born and that she hates us. There's more to this, but not something I want to delve into on here. I haven't spoken to her in 15 years. Last Thanksgiving she sent me this: "I know you don't love me, but I hope you have a good Thanksgiving" after not messaging me for years. It feels very much about her, not that she actually feels bad for what she did, but that she wants to try and guilt me into being back into her life. She doesn't get it-it's not that I don't love her. I'm protecting my mental well-being and my family from her toxicity. I side with the kids on this one. Usually there is a good reason.
Yeah narcissist brings everything back to them being a victim and never acknowledging what they do/Have done. If they simply have the conversation and take accountability and work towards change they can save the relationship but they refuse change and expect relationships to be fixed
When they choose to send messages like these on Holidays and Birthdays it’s a veiled FU. There are plenty of normal days each year they can choose to communicate.
I don’t think it’s that much different than most other exercises in acceptance of an end to a relationship, like burning photos or letters or something. I can see it being offensive to those that the funeral was done over, but a lot of people find peace after doing something like that. Whether or not we believe they deserve peace is up for debate, but I also have to say that most of these exercises are done in privacy. Most of the time no one will know you did it, so for her it seems like a clout chasing way of trying to humiliate her daughter. So I guess I am saying, I am conflicted about it.
@@michellekennedy454 Well, holding a funeral for your child, (no matter what age) would not be calming to any normal parent. if it is to her, that says a lot...... It sounds more than revenge than anything else. Especially since she talks and talks about it, and clearly wants her child (children) to know about it.
@ I guess it would depend on the person. Funerals like that are supposed to bring resolution to inner turmoil, but they obviously know the person isn’t actually dead. It’s supposed to be symbolic. Didn’t seem to bring any resolution to this lady though.
I have held private funerals for relationships. Key words being private and relationships. Holding a funeral for someone still alive is considered a death curse from the teachings passed to me. I don't think that washer intent,, still makes me shudder.
I had a weird uncle who worked for years as a psychologist offering therapy until people discovered that he lied about all of his credentials. Diane reminds me of him. You have to be a total narcissist and psychopath to be giving mental health advice to vulnerable individuals when you're not qualified in any way!
My nephew actually passed in May of 2024. I stood by my sister’s side throughout everything. The wake and funeral were gut wrenching for our family and most of all, my for my sister, his mother. This funeral ritual for a living person, your own child is beyond disgusting. All in the purpose of closure. This is reprehensible. They are horrible for putting that out to the universe over feeling hurt. Adult children don’t walk away on a whim. You know there are serious reasons. I can’t imagine my sister’s reaction to this.
There must be more to these stories...In one of my issues with my mom, when I didn't call her back in 2 hrs, she called relatives and cops to do a welfare check on me DESPITE my sister telling her that I was going to be busy that day. I warned her to not do that again, only for her to blow up my phone when I told her I would call her back months later when I was at a formal event...STILL, she doesn't respect my space.
There's something quite disheartening about someone going around telling people therapy is bad while telling them to hold bizarre mock funerals and not question their own behaviour, in order to get over an estrangement that they themselves clearly aren't over at all. She's simply flailing through this process while repeating what caused her to be estranged in the first place, doing the opposite of what would help and for some reason thinking she's in a position to teach others what to do. Holding a mock funeral won't help her, as her children aren't going to attend her own actual funeral because of such behaviour. And that will be her legacy, a lifetime of just not being able to realise that she's wrong.
When I came out as trans, my mom told me she felt like her child died. Ya know, the child who was begging her for love and acceptance and who was very much alive despite having been actively suicidal for many years. Now we're estranged. I could totally see her having a funeral for her "dead kid."
It’s the flavor text that she adds that really gets me. “I love my child” she said with forlorn grace “I’m not going to give up my child” she said stoically It’s like a 6th grade writing project.
That's what got me. When talking in terms of journalistic and non-fiction writing adding in emotive terms, unless it was a physical aspect of an emotion, puts the entirety of the "facts" in it under doubt. We SHOW the emotions of ppl in that writing, we don't tell.
I’m 67. I am close with my children, and I helped parent many of their friends when they were in high school. Their parents were pretty terrible. Punishment was not going to their school event. Punishment was slapping them in the face and guilt tripping them with religion. They would rather spend mountains of effort to assuage their ego than trying to make amends or learning any new lessons. They never listened to their children, so their children are not listening to them.
It's severely scary. If I had an amazing relationship with my dog and one day he was terrified to be around me I would immediately self-reflection. Narcissist like Dianie will rather have a "funeral" for their kids lol. Narcissist make me think hell could be real because they truly are evil.
@@VibinWithRunnTheSnowman I'm reminded of the play "No Exit" and its most famous line: "Hell is other people." Thankfully, life with a parent like this is a suffering that adult children can escape.
@Fauntleroy. yeah luckily kids can eventually escape this horror. If my child said I made them said I'd talk about it with them, and make corrections if needed and talk to others on what makes the most sense. Narcissist approach is "I did nothing" "I'll change nothing." I'm not saying apologize just to do it but if I genuinely hurt someone I would.
Absolutely zero warmth from this woman. The chill is coming off the screen. Diane is to estranged parents what Jodi Hildebrand was to marriages and child rearing
Omg, my mom told me that my brother, who passed away years ago, told her that she gave us roots and wings. If he actually did. I think he only did to encourage her to accept his independence. Also, a few years ago, my mom told me "my friends ask me why I let you move to Hawaii ". I replied " mom, I'm in my 50s". She quickly changed the subject . I never went no contact, but I limited my contact (refused to call her every day and would limit what I shared). My mom passed away a year ago. I struggle with the cognitive dissonance, because we did have good times growing up and she did a lot for us. But a lot of what she did was on her terms and held as emotional currency. I wanted to be a more present daughter, but I know that if i did, she would suck the life out of me and expect more and more. I watch this videos about Diane so I can remind myself of how my mom emotionally manipulated me so I can feel less guilty for not being as close to her as she wanted.
Man, Diane loves the passive voice. “Now [Kenny] finds himself divorced, estranged from his children”-implying that Kenny had nothing to do with any of it, he was not involved at all in the events leading up to his loneliness. It’s one of the most notable characteristics of how Diane talks about her own experience and that of others, just a bunch of missing reasons and a poor, completely bewildered “good parent” at the end of it 🙄
There's one sure way to help estranged reconcile- get humble. Find a therapist, explain that there's something about you that chased your kid away, and get the fuck to work. Painful, soul-questioning honest therapy. I know now why my daughter saw me as emotionally unsafe, with good reason. She gave me a chance and I got lucky- she listened. I'm still not part of the chosen family and that's my responsibility. I forced her to create that family. Some days I feel like I'm not part of the cool kids club and it sucks. That is the price I pay. Gladly.
I’m glad to hear that. It’s the same way it worked out for me and my daughter. We are doing well now but it took a lot of work. I had one therapist who had tried to tell me that it wasn’t my fault. But it was. Even if I didn’t know it at the time. It’s the parent’s responsibility not to bring their past trauma into their family and I did that. So while I honestly didn’t want to hurt my kid I did. So I found another therapist and did work on my PTSD and emotional regulation issues. I apologized to my kid and I admitted it and I’m grateful that she let me back in. It took a few years, I do think we’ve moved on, but I follow her lead. It was humbling and difficult to look at myself (not that it was easy for her either) but it was far easier than not having my kid in my life. That was much more difficult.
My father in his later years acknowledged his terrible behaviour. Before he died he reconciled with all 9 of his children. And I could let him go with our ❤❤
Admitting one's mistakes and hurts, doing healing work takes great courage. Facing up to lasting consequences and relationship scars also takes tenacity and perseverance along with courage. Thank y'all for continuing to heal.
You give good advice. I went no-contact with my mom a year ago. I told her exactly why, and nothing I said was a surprise to her. She's spent the last year theorizing with her therapist about what must be wrong with ME that I would do this. Psychoanalyzing me so she doesn't have to look at herself. There is no hope for her. I had to let my hope go.
This makes me want to make these sad videos about people just to reveal what they’ve done at the end lol. Jackie cries every night over the silence from her son. She has tried every possible path to reconnection. She spent his childhood screaming in his face and gaslighting him ❤️ so sad
"Lauren often failed to buy candy for her children and thinks they've held this against her. She takes strength from reflecting on how she did her best. She also did her best throwing out all of her kids' possessions when she was angry at them, and allowing her yutz parade of boyfriends to beat, steal from, and terrorize her children. She also killed the family dog. Both of them."
7:33 okay.. this level of delusion has me thinking people need to be tested for narccism at a certain age. This is pure delusion. SHE WAS LITERALLY SENT a 5 paragraph letter.
Ahh I need to create my channel! These parents are being led into terrible decisions. I want to have an alternative advice channel for estranged parents who really want to reconcile if possible. Most parents who would listen to and join Diane probably wouldn’t like my opinion though.
Yes please do this! There needs to a place for folks looking to heal and acknowledge the damage their wounds have caused. One of the most powerful things my mom did that helped us reconcile was validate the wounds I had/have. She agreed that being wounded wasn't her fault, healing was her responsibility. It showed me how to be responsible and accountable for myself and the wounds I caused through dysfunction. The most difficult part is facing and acknowledging those things that need healing. When we accept our wounds we can heal them. There are some folks who need to be estranged for their own health and I respect that.
Just envision Diane sitting at her desk, writing these dramatic scripts and acting them out, thinking she's doing something great for humanity. Her hair, glasses & voice are arrrrrggggghhhhh
This attitude is insane. Sometimes I don't hear from my son for months. Not because we're estranged, but because he's a 20 something living his life. I remember myself at that age, calling mom wasn't high on my list of priorities. I can't imagine harassing my son and giving him an ultimatum to do things my way or he's dead to me. What a selfish you know what...
I also love when parents ask for example, and when you give them one, they rip the ONE example apart as if it was the only time, instead of looking at it as AN EXAMPLE!
They usually purposely mishear some random tiny thing in the middle of it and latch onto it and say nonsense like "THAT is the reason for all this?!" and never let it go as being _the thing_ you told them. No matter how much you try to tell them not only is that not it, they're ignoring everything else and not even getting that one part right. Because they really don't care about any of it and never have, which is why they're in the place they're in.
@@dillchives yup 100% they'll go "that's all" but they completely misinterpreted something and won't listen to you explain how they're misinterpreting it then they'll spread lies of their ridiculous fantasy misinterpretation, so they can be the victim and you're just crazy. The mind games these monsters play compared to just taking accountability and growing is disgusting.
Eating popcorn as a mom who is close to all 3 of my young, adult daughters as I think about how my narc mom constantly told me growing up, "I can't wait for you to be a mom then you'll see!" And boy did I sure see - she was a terrible mother. I just did the opposite of her and not once did I ever have the issues she and I had. My daughters have never rebelled or even really talk back to me ever. But you know who they've cut out/made minimal contact with? My mom. lol It's really not that hard to be a good mom. These people are just selfish, delusional, and sadistic.
I am SO thankful I found your channel. It aligns best in how I feel, being a daughter whom has gone no contact with my Mother 10 years ago, it's REALLY appreciated and affirming. Diane is most definitely a grifter! She has a VERY short, lived experience as an estranged parent. Not far enough removed to gain introspective IF at all capable. She has continued to be affirming, to her daughter that her decision was valid (and nessisary)and pushing her daughter from ever reconciling with her parents. Diane is choosing her own agenda and monetization of her daughter choosing no contact to feel emotionally safe to further abuse her emotionally. It is beyond disgusting. I am also a Mother to 5 adult children and in no world can I comprehend this.
I know my mom has to be . Her and Diane are so similar its actually kinda scary. They even resemble each other in looks. My mom even does that van-life thing. lol
Like my mother she seems to smile all the time. My mother always plays the oblivious: nothing bad ever happens, life is a fairytale. Meanwhile she is passive aggressive and uninterested. I felt like I was a very bad child until my 54th birthday when I woke up to her manipulation. It’s exhausting
I wonder if Diane ever believes anyone who was abused by their parents. What I don't believe is all these parents who say the estrangement happened out of nowhere and they don't know why. I'm just gonna say, every single one of these parents are absolutely lying. "You can't change the past." No kidding. No one is saying that. But you CAN learn from it and you can sometimes make amends. But not with that attitude.
They don't really believe abuse is real, unless it's something like their kids not talking to them. The closest any of them ever get to saying what they would actually consider abuse are usually just them listing a couple of obvious and horrific crimes, then blowing those off since at least they didn't do _those_
Imagine if these were the "testimonies" of abusive partners. Going on about how sad the abusive husband was that his wife left him. The deafening silence, I need to focus on myself and heal, I need to let go with love, you can't expect answers when someone you love chooses to hurt you so badly by abandoning you.... yikes.
These parents are acting like an abusive boyfriend: Do anything to get a reaction Get others on your side by making yourself the victim Keep contacting when clear boundaries exist Go to the internet to get validation
I met a guy who had 3 ex wives and 2 adult sons and two grandchildren he hadn’t seen in years. I asked him if he would change anything so he could make things better with his kids and grandchildren he said I wouldn’t change anything. They don’t understand me😮I blocked him he stalked me. People like this are disturbing and disgusting.
Yup its cross. I knew someone with two failed relationships with two different mothers of his child and, estranged from one of his kids and doesn't visit the other and he has zero self-reflection about it. Anyone who calls him out on it just hates the world.
LMAO I’m doing dishes, listening with my headphones, and as soon as she said D’s family, I said outwardly “hehe, Deez….” Only to have you do basically the same thing right after felt very validating. 😂😂
I thought Diane didn't agree with therapy? What category do you think she imagines her course fits into. Self-help? Dare I say... therapy? Or is self-help and therapy only bad when the victims use it? Some interesting mental gymnastics.
These groups will never last. A narcissistic parents need for attention will never let them allow one another to have the floor, sooner or later they'll be turning on each other and the entire community will collapse.
Yeah narcissist love saying it happened out of no where and for zero reason and magically never mention the 5 page essay and multiple conversations about the problem.
I agree M. The people drawn to her want to win. That’s the problem. They want to win with their kids but can’t possibly consider admitting fault. What a sad pitiful existence for them.
There are so many things to find repugnant about Diane, but these videos display a profound and smug martyrdom completely devoid of humility or self reflection. Or empathy. People should try to heal from things like this, but Diane leaves no room for the possibility that the parents were actually at fault. Not every estranged parent is necessarily a monster, but none of them will ever be able to repair these relationships if the foundation for their sorrow is "my ungrateful kid won't talk to me because someone convinced them I was a bad parent". Narcissists are too often incapable of viewing any given situation without framing themselves as the victim. Diane is preying on these people with garbage advice, but really it's all about garnering attention for herself. It's disgusting, and it's obvious why her kids have gone no contact.
How do you victimise yourself so badly that when your own kids decide to disown you because you were a pos to them, instead of reflecting and trying to find out what you did wrong you hold A FUNERAL 😭😭
My mom would end up making a channel like this in the future probably when I cut off, then all the comments will be praising her and saying she was valid for yelling at me over my weak immune system and knee disability
Patty does look like a 40 year old. But would a 40 year old have had time to finally make her kid give up on her? Maybe Diane thinks she looks Patty's age
I never met my maternal grandfather. Mom had walked out of the house the day she turned 18 and moved into a neighbor’s house. She graduated high school, got married, had 3 kids and moved to a nearby city, then to another state. If she wanted the family to know something, she would tell her sister, who told their stepmother. As a kid, I never understood why, but when I was in my 40s, mom all but admitted there had been abuse in the household. In any case, after her father died, she restarted her relationship with her stepmother until the latter’s death. Mom kept a picture of her and her stepmom, laughing uproariously, on the fridge. I can absolutely understand why adult children go no contact.
What I'm noticing is that every video is the same message - the parent's kids went no contact out of the blue (and there is no context to the history of that separation, conveniently enough); the parents struggled for a while, and then "accepted and forgave" themselves and found other things in their life to focus on. So the underlying message is, before the kids went no contact, the parent had no inner life of their own, nothing of value to focus on, no self awareness - it was the children's responsibility to provide that parent with a sense of meaning, purpose and with a sense of self. Diane is a fraud who hates therapists but uses therapy speak to sell her grift; but since she IS a fraud, she is blind to how easy it is to see through her messaging for anyone with a modicum of self awareness.
Yup her focus is "parents kids were amazing and one day stopped dealing with parents" which clearly puts the blame on the kids. Oh and then you find out Dianies daughter sent her a letter explaning why she's leaving but Dianie calls the reasons "weak" and it's just an angry letter and it would blow over. I've found narcissist can't comprehend the importance of having a sit down and talking things through, they think everything just blows over. I also found Dianies daughters tok tok and SHOCKER Dianie was liying. Dianies daughter explains how her parents dont take her serious and will never take accountability and how they don't understand estrangment hurts her also. I've literally commented why are you liying that your daughter gave no reasons when I'm watching her tik tok Dianie and Dianie of course ignores it to heart comments agreeing she's the victim. Narcissist are sick
I usually do a reverse Diane; I often buy my kids a little something on my birthday. Last year was a little beanie baby and chocolates for each of them.
34:36 She presents estrangment like she had no life or love due to having a relationship with her kids. Which also puts her in victim hood and how she expects her children owe her.
Take a shot every time a character “admits” something and RIP. Also, my mom leaves all these bitches in the dust, she handled me going no contact like a champ, we both grew as people, and now we’re closer than ever. Diane will never have that experience.
Diane seems like someone who bought herself a gift for her daughter's birthday long before they were estranged.
"I'm the one who did all the hard work that day to bring her into the world!"
@@vadalia3860 I did all the hard work that day and all my daughter did was show up late and start bitching immediately /s
My mom used to tell the same story on my birthday each year. She brought me to church 3 days after I was born. It was Mother’s Day. They were passing out special bouquets to certain moms - oldest mom, mom with the most kids, etc. So every year my mom reminded me that she “won a bouquet for mom with the youngest baby! Everyone gushed over how small you were!”
I was three days old being passed around like a doll and my mother won a prize for that. 🤪
i don't see enough people talking about how disrespectful this probably feels to real parents who have lost their children, to have such a ceremony parodied by bitter abusers
Moms who have lost children and moms who’ve miscarried and moms whose children have terminal illnesses are probably very insulted by this vulgar display of narcissism from parents who caused tremendous harm to their own kids.
"Her therapist told her she was too close to her mother" the complaint of every abusive mom.
Enmeshment is a poison.
"Our relationship was just too good she couldn't take it anymore" 😐 gurl be so fr right now
More likely, the therapist said something like "It seems like your mother is very involved in your life. " which caused the daughter to realize that her mother was too involved in her life and start to set boundaries.
"I can't change the past" is the whine of every terrible person who refuses to apologise for what they have done.
@@d.awdreygore and they have no plans to change in the future 😆
100%, it’s just a thought-stopping cliche they try to use on you (and themselves) to dissociate themselves from the responsibility for their actions. Obviously no one arguing with someone expects them to travel into the past and make a different decision
"I cant change the past" should only be followed by "but I can change the present"
Its them trying to derail and shut down the convo @@jameseglavin4
Diane makes her voice sound so soft and sincere when we all KNOW she spits venom and hate... abusers love playing the victim... 🤮
She's using her Low BMI voice. It isn't working.
My conspiracy theory is that Diane is pushing so hard on social media to outdo her daughters online presence and prove she is more likable.
But she shows the opposite in every video.
That theory is far too plausible. I don't like it.
Ooooh what if she's trying to go viral in hopes her daughter sees it or becomes aware of her attempts as punishment or force her way back into her life even if its just online?
@@Slappap that’s what I think, it’s a narcissistic tactic. Terrifying
@@Slappap not even for the daughter to see it. For everyone to know that her online fame is bigger than her daughter (aka she is more likeable and therefore right).
"Sorry kid we can never reconcile or even speak again, we already had a funeral for you and everything" -totally normal parent
lmao exactly. What's hilarious is the majority of her commentors tell her she's wrong and instead she looks for the 1% who don't have their kids either. Why would you take advise from those who don't have their kids
Such a gargantuan insult to parents who’ve actually lost children.
It blows my mind that Dianne doesn’t realize that these videos are the nail in the coffin for ANY chance she ever had to reconcile with her daughter. This IS NOT “leaving the door open.” It’s boarding up the whole house.
And having a funeral for your absent child is saying "I don't want to reconcile".
@@ozsheila55it’s so disturbing 😑
I'm not giving diane any agency in whether or not that relationship is closed. She didn't board up the house - she's making her daughter slam the door closed, not look back and feel validated in how all these people outside of Diane's circle see her
These parents are why I'm against Grandparents Rights laws
Luckily grandparents rights only apply when the grandparents are deeply involved in the grandchild’s life and the parents suddenly separated them. That’s what makes it so funny when crappy grandparents who’ve never met their grandchildren say they’re going to court for grandparent’s rights!!!!!
In her head, she makes up scenarios where her children come back to her and she rejects them with laughter and a smile. Because this woman is all about payback and revenge, making someone "pay" for what they did
yeah agre if it was coming from love she would take accountability and work on her part of teh relationship... but no i feel this is like spitefuland petty.....shes nasty..
I also suspect that Diane is doing real harm to any estranged parents who might've had a chance to reconcile, but then they blow it by listening to this person.
This isnt a new trend, this is what abusers have always been. They have always played the victim the second they lost the power to be the abuser.
DARVO tactics.
The recurrent theme of each and every one of these - "I am a narcissist and am outraged by the loss of supply, therefore I will seek supply from this grifter on teh interwebz."
It's wild to me that these parents would rather "heal" and do things like hold a funeral or make themselves a birthday cake than entertain the idea that maybe they need to make changes to meet their children's boundaries.
I'm estranged from my mom. She has spent years going back and forth between I love my daughters to saying she wishes we were never born and that she hates us. There's more to this, but not something I want to delve into on here.
I haven't spoken to her in 15 years. Last Thanksgiving she sent me this:
"I know you don't love me, but I hope you have a good Thanksgiving" after not messaging me for years. It feels very much about her, not that she actually feels bad for what she did, but that she wants to try and guilt me into being back into her life. She doesn't get it-it's not that I don't love her. I'm protecting my mental well-being and my family from her toxicity.
I side with the kids on this one. Usually there is a good reason.
Yeah narcissist brings everything back to them being a victim and never acknowledging what they do/Have done. If they simply have the conversation and take accountability and work towards change they can save the relationship but they refuse change and expect relationships to be fixed
I got one of those AFTER I sent a Mother’s Day note. Blocked instantly
When they choose to send messages like these on Holidays and Birthdays it’s a veiled FU. There are plenty of normal days each year they can choose to communicate.
Holding a funeral, is effing evil. I can`t imagine how much anger and "revenge", goes into that.
It seems like it's their attempt to create a spiritual murder in order to fill the void left by losing their punching bag.
I don’t think it’s that much different than most other exercises in acceptance of an end to a relationship, like burning photos or letters or something. I can see it being offensive to those that the funeral was done over, but a lot of people find peace after doing something like that. Whether or not we believe they deserve peace is up for debate, but I also have to say that most of these exercises are done in privacy. Most of the time no one will know you did it, so for her it seems like a clout chasing way of trying to humiliate her daughter. So I guess I am saying, I am conflicted about it.
@@michellekennedy454 Well, holding a funeral for your child, (no matter what age) would not be calming to any normal parent. if it is to her, that says a lot...... It sounds more than revenge than anything else. Especially since she talks and talks about it, and clearly wants her child (children) to know about it.
@ I guess it would depend on the person. Funerals like that are supposed to bring resolution to inner turmoil, but they obviously know the person isn’t actually dead. It’s supposed to be symbolic. Didn’t seem to bring any resolution to this lady though.
I have held private funerals for relationships. Key words being private and relationships. Holding a funeral for someone still alive is considered a death curse from the teachings passed to me. I don't think that washer intent,, still makes me shudder.
I had a weird uncle who worked for years as a psychologist offering therapy until people discovered that he lied about all of his credentials. Diane reminds me of him. You have to be a total narcissist and psychopath to be giving mental health advice to vulnerable individuals when you're not qualified in any way!
That’s wild
My nephew actually passed in May of 2024. I stood by my sister’s side throughout everything. The wake and funeral were gut wrenching for our family and most of all, my for my sister, his mother.
This funeral ritual for a living person, your own child is beyond disgusting. All in the purpose of closure. This is reprehensible. They are horrible for putting that out to the universe over feeling hurt. Adult children don’t walk away on a whim. You know there are serious reasons.
I can’t imagine my sister’s reaction to this.
It really is reprehensible. Such videos should be reported.
There must be more to these stories...In one of my issues with my mom, when I didn't call her back in 2 hrs, she called relatives and cops to do a welfare check on me DESPITE my sister telling her that I was going to be busy that day. I warned her to not do that again, only for her to blow up my phone when I told her I would call her back months later when I was at a formal event...STILL, she doesn't respect my space.
There's something quite disheartening about someone going around telling people therapy is bad while telling them to hold bizarre mock funerals and not question their own behaviour, in order to get over an estrangement that they themselves clearly aren't over at all.
She's simply flailing through this process while repeating what caused her to be estranged in the first place, doing the opposite of what would help and for some reason thinking she's in a position to teach others what to do.
Holding a mock funeral won't help her, as her children aren't going to attend her own actual funeral because of such behaviour. And that will be her legacy, a lifetime of just not being able to realise that she's wrong.
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You expressed it beautifully. She's a miserable woman who found a grift; doing everything except the right thing.
Abusers perpetuate abuse to prove themselves right. It just ends up reinforcing dysfunction in the folks who think the abuser is correct.
Its nice to see Diane spent the whole of the festive period making up bitter scenarios to put up on TH-cam.
love that for her
It warms my heart.
At least she wasn't bothering her children.
Always the victim, never the adult. Take some damn accountability Diane. 🙄
When I came out as trans, my mom told me she felt like her child died. Ya know, the child who was begging her for love and acceptance and who was very much alive despite having been actively suicidal for many years. Now we're estranged. I could totally see her having a funeral for her "dead kid."
I'm so sorry your mom said that to you
You deserved better
Do you think she is seeking support though estranged parents forums too?
@catherineblair550 Could be. I'll never really know and I think I'm just fine with that.
Omg I’m so sorry.
Elon Musk said something similar about his child. No acknowledgement that he now has a son instead of a daughter.
It’s the flavor text that she adds that really gets me. “I love my child” she said with forlorn grace
“I’m not going to give up my child” she said stoically
It’s like a 6th grade writing project.
This!
It's amateurish to the extreme.
That's what got me.
When talking in terms of journalistic and non-fiction writing adding in emotive terms, unless it was a physical aspect of an emotion, puts the entirety of the "facts" in it under doubt.
We SHOW the emotions of ppl in that writing, we don't tell.
I’m 67. I am close with my children, and I helped parent many of their friends when they were in high school. Their parents were pretty terrible. Punishment was not going to their school event. Punishment was slapping them in the face and guilt tripping them with religion. They would rather spend mountains of effort to assuage their ego than trying to make amends or learning any new lessons. They never listened to their children, so their children are not listening to them.
Got room for Thanksgiving? Your house sounds like a haven
The lack of self-awareness that some human beings have is kinda terrifying. 😳
Yes! I find Diane to be deeply disturbing 😱🤢🤮
It's severely scary. If I had an amazing relationship with my dog and one day he was terrified to be around me I would immediately self-reflection. Narcissist like Dianie will rather have a "funeral" for their kids lol. Narcissist make me think hell could be real because they truly are evil.
@@VibinWithRunnTheSnowman I'm reminded of the play "No Exit" and its most famous line: "Hell is other people." Thankfully, life with a parent like this is a suffering that adult children can escape.
@Fauntleroy. yeah luckily kids can eventually escape this horror. If my child said I made them said I'd talk about it with them, and make corrections if needed and talk to others on what makes the most sense. Narcissist approach is "I did nothing" "I'll change nothing." I'm not saying apologize just to do it but if I genuinely hurt someone I would.
Absolutely zero warmth from this woman. The chill is coming off the screen. Diane is to estranged parents what Jodi Hildebrand was to marriages and child rearing
Holy shit that’s cold and extremely accurate
Omg, my mom told me that my brother, who passed away years ago, told her that she gave us roots and wings. If he actually did. I think he only did to encourage her to accept his independence.
Also, a few years ago, my mom told me "my friends ask me why I let you move to Hawaii ". I replied " mom, I'm in my 50s". She quickly changed the subject .
I never went no contact, but I limited my contact (refused to call her every day and would limit what I shared). My mom passed away a year ago. I struggle with the cognitive dissonance, because we did have good times growing up and she did a lot for us. But a lot of what she did was on her terms and held as emotional currency. I wanted to be a more present daughter, but I know that if i did, she would suck the life out of me and expect more and more.
I watch this videos about Diane so I can remind myself of how my mom emotionally manipulated me so I can feel less guilty for not being as close to her as she wanted.
Sounds like you gave her as much as you could without hurting yourself. ❤
@@ozsheila55Thanks 😊❤
"I can't change the past" yea, but you can change the future.
I guess this is what she wants?
Man, Diane loves the passive voice. “Now [Kenny] finds himself divorced, estranged from his children”-implying that Kenny had nothing to do with any of it, he was not involved at all in the events leading up to his loneliness. It’s one of the most notable characteristics of how Diane talks about her own experience and that of others, just a bunch of missing reasons and a poor, completely bewildered “good parent” at the end of it 🙄
Duh! Divorce just found him! 😂
These women are all just surprised their kids grew up, ffs thats what kids do
There's one sure way to help estranged reconcile- get humble. Find a therapist, explain that there's something about you that chased your kid away, and get the fuck to work. Painful, soul-questioning honest therapy. I know now why my daughter saw me as emotionally unsafe, with good reason. She gave me a chance and I got lucky- she listened. I'm still not part of the chosen family and that's my responsibility. I forced her to create that family. Some days I feel like I'm not part of the cool kids club and it sucks. That is the price I pay. Gladly.
I’m glad to hear that. It’s the same way it worked out for me and my daughter. We are doing well now but it took a lot of work. I had one therapist who had tried to tell me that it wasn’t my fault. But it was. Even if I didn’t know it at the time. It’s the parent’s responsibility not to bring their past trauma into their family and I did that. So while I honestly didn’t want to hurt my kid I did. So I found another therapist and did work on my PTSD and emotional regulation issues. I apologized to my kid and I admitted it and I’m grateful that she let me back in. It took a few years, I do think we’ve moved on, but I follow her lead. It was humbling and difficult to look at myself (not that it was easy for her either) but it was far easier than not having my kid in my life. That was much more difficult.
My father in his later years acknowledged his terrible behaviour. Before he died he reconciled with all 9 of his children. And I could let him go with our ❤❤
Admitting one's mistakes and hurts, doing healing work takes great courage. Facing up to lasting consequences and relationship scars also takes tenacity and perseverance along with courage. Thank y'all for continuing to heal.
You give good advice. I went no-contact with my mom a year ago. I told her exactly why, and nothing I said was a surprise to her. She's spent the last year theorizing with her therapist about what must be wrong with ME that I would do this. Psychoanalyzing me so she doesn't have to look at herself. There is no hope for her. I had to let my hope go.
I wish this whole comment thread would start a rival channel to Diane's and tell em how it's really done! Bless you for doing the hard work❤️❤️✨🙏
My mother can’t change the past, her abusive behaviour was real, all we wanted her acknowledging neglect & physical punishments.
This makes me want to make these sad videos about people just to reveal what they’ve done at the end lol.
Jackie cries every night over the silence from her son. She has tried every possible path to reconnection.
She spent his childhood screaming in his face and gaslighting him ❤️ so sad
"Lauren often failed to buy candy for her children and thinks they've held this against her. She takes strength from reflecting on how she did her best. She also did her best throwing out all of her kids' possessions when she was angry at them, and allowing her yutz parade of boyfriends to beat, steal from, and terrorize her children. She also killed the family dog. Both of them."
Im begging you to do this please! I need this🤩
Omg that would be hilarious.
7:33 okay.. this level of delusion has me thinking people need to be tested for narccism at a certain age. This is pure delusion. SHE WAS LITERALLY SENT a 5 paragraph letter.
Ahh I need to create my channel! These parents are being led into terrible decisions. I want to have an alternative advice channel for estranged parents who really want to reconcile if possible. Most parents who would listen to and join Diane probably wouldn’t like my opinion though.
It would involve self reflection and that's an anathema to people like Diane. But it needs to be done.
Yes please do this! There needs to a place for folks looking to heal and acknowledge the damage their wounds have caused.
One of the most powerful things my mom did that helped us reconcile was validate the wounds I had/have. She agreed that being wounded wasn't her fault, healing was her responsibility. It showed me how to be responsible and accountable for myself and the wounds I caused through dysfunction. The most difficult part is facing and acknowledging those things that need healing. When we accept our wounds we can heal them.
There are some folks who need to be estranged for their own health and I respect that.
37:01 “I tried everything! Letters, apologies, *promises to change* “
Weirdly she doesn’t mention *actual changed behavior*
Just envision Diane sitting at her desk, writing these dramatic scripts and acting them out, thinking she's doing something great for humanity. Her hair, glasses & voice are arrrrrggggghhhhh
The hair!!!
11:24 all 5 of my kids stopped talking to me and it was all random. How do people lack so much self-reflection?
This attitude is insane. Sometimes I don't hear from my son for months. Not because we're estranged, but because he's a 20 something living his life. I remember myself at that age, calling mom wasn't high on my list of priorities. I can't imagine harassing my son and giving him an ultimatum to do things my way or he's dead to me. What a selfish you know what...
IKR? Some of these stories are just kids not calling their mom very often.
I rang mum when I needed money. I was a pretty crappy kid.
My oldest called for cooking tips. I did the same thing to my mom. 😂
She’s basically documenting how unhinged she is for the world to see at this point. It’s a good case study for psychologists.
the grift never ends.
That vile person is definitely an energy vampire
You can feel those smug vibes waving off the screen.
These are 💯 percent AI. Also, why does her hair always give her little devil horns? Is she doing that on purpose??
Even her hair is resentful.
@Fauntleroy. LMAO. She doesn't use gel - it's all her conniving energy that makes it stick straight up.
I also love when parents ask for example, and when you give them one, they rip the ONE example apart as if it was the only time, instead of looking at it as AN EXAMPLE!
Yup that's a common tactic. they'll say they did nothing, then you give an example then they go what ELSE DID I DO?!? It's never ending
They usually purposely mishear some random tiny thing in the middle of it and latch onto it and say nonsense like "THAT is the reason for all this?!" and never let it go as being _the thing_ you told them. No matter how much you try to tell them not only is that not it, they're ignoring everything else and not even getting that one part right. Because they really don't care about any of it and never have, which is why they're in the place they're in.
@@dillchives yup 100% they'll go "that's all" but they completely misinterpreted something and won't listen to you explain how they're misinterpreting it then they'll spread lies of their ridiculous fantasy misinterpretation, so they can be the victim and you're just crazy. The mind games these monsters play compared to just taking accountability and growing is disgusting.
Lol, she hit both of my parents' names. Leave them alone, Diane.
The AI just chose the most common names for their age 😂 so it was bound to happen
Eating popcorn as a mom who is close to all 3 of my young, adult daughters as I think about how my narc mom constantly told me growing up, "I can't wait for you to be a mom then you'll see!" And boy did I sure see - she was a terrible mother. I just did the opposite of her and not once did I ever have the issues she and I had. My daughters have never rebelled or even really talk back to me ever. But you know who they've cut out/made minimal contact with? My mom. lol
It's really not that hard to be a good mom. These people are just selfish, delusional, and sadistic.
So she's just making up stuff on chatgpt to sell her courses and group 🤔 🙄 pathetic
You should do a course on "How to deal with Estranged Parents who won't leave you alone!"
What to do when your estranged family has been grifted into being more toxic. It could be part two.
Awfulness aside, Diane’s hair endlessly fascinates me. She looks like a wet baby bird.
I am SO thankful I found your channel. It aligns best in how I feel, being a daughter whom has gone no contact with my Mother 10 years ago, it's REALLY appreciated and affirming.
Diane is most definitely a grifter! She has a VERY short, lived experience as an estranged parent. Not far enough removed to gain introspective IF at all capable.
She has continued to be affirming, to her daughter that her decision was valid (and nessisary)and pushing her daughter from ever reconciling with her parents.
Diane is choosing her own agenda and monetization of her daughter choosing no contact to feel emotionally safe to further abuse her emotionally.
It is beyond disgusting.
I am also a Mother to 5 adult children and in no world can I comprehend this.
every time i see diane's content, i can't help but wonder if my parents (who i haven't seen or spoken to in seven years) are in her groupchat.
Same. Lol😂
@@JaxxNThBoxx Me too. I could see it.
I know my mom has to be . Her and Diane are so similar its actually kinda scary. They even resemble each other in looks. My mom even does that van-life thing. lol
I hope in 2025 she finally finds a good hairdresser 😭
I bet her hair bites.
Like my mother she seems to smile all the time. My mother always plays the oblivious: nothing bad ever happens, life is a fairytale. Meanwhile she is passive aggressive and uninterested. I felt like I was a very bad child until my 54th birthday when I woke up to her manipulation. It’s exhausting
I wonder if Diane ever believes anyone who was abused by their parents.
What I don't believe is all these parents who say the estrangement happened out of nowhere and they don't know why. I'm just gonna say, every single one of these parents are absolutely lying.
"You can't change the past." No kidding. No one is saying that. But you CAN learn from it and you can sometimes make amends. But not with that attitude.
They don't really believe abuse is real, unless it's something like their kids not talking to them. The closest any of them ever get to saying what they would actually consider abuse are usually just them listing a couple of obvious and horrific crimes, then blowing those off since at least they didn't do _those_
@@dillchives Yup, that's how my late mom described abuse. It's not abuse if they're not holding your hand on a hot stove and breaking your bones.
She has the angriest hairstyle I've ever seen.
Her hairdresser hates her.😂
woot! in before the copy-right strike!
These sound like Dhar Mann set ups 😂
😂
24:43 Your expressions while resisting the urge to say "deez nuts" omg 😂
Imagine if these were the "testimonies" of abusive partners. Going on about how sad the abusive husband was that his wife left him. The deafening silence, I need to focus on myself and heal, I need to let go with love, you can't expect answers when someone you love chooses to hurt you so badly by abandoning you.... yikes.
Unfortunately there are groups of abusive partners that do just this for people. Best we can do is call it out for what it is when we see it.
These parents are acting like an abusive boyfriend:
Do anything to get a reaction
Get others on your side by making yourself the victim
Keep contacting when clear boundaries exist
Go to the internet to get validation
Every AI-scripted video leaves Diane with "unanswered questions and a heavy heart". 😢
5:50 are these AI people she is creating stories about?
Perfect timing, needed something to listen to while I work thanks bud! 🎉
Twenty in a day? That's not just grift, that's obsessive.
Peak narcopath behavior 🤪. Edit: This is hilarious 🤣
1:14 already with the manipulation. "MY CHILD RANDOMLY LEFT"
Literally recieved like 5 paragraphs of what her daughter said she did
I met a guy who had 3 ex wives and 2 adult sons and two grandchildren he hadn’t seen in years. I asked him if he would change anything so he could make things better with his kids and grandchildren he said I wouldn’t change anything. They don’t understand me😮I blocked him he stalked me. People like this are disturbing and disgusting.
Yup its cross. I knew someone with two failed relationships with two different mothers of his child and, estranged from one of his kids and doesn't visit the other and he has zero self-reflection about it. Anyone who calls him out on it just hates the world.
LMAO I’m doing dishes, listening with my headphones, and as soon as she said D’s family, I said outwardly “hehe, Deez….” Only to have you do basically the same thing right after felt very validating. 😂😂
I thought Diane didn't agree with therapy? What category do you think she imagines her course fits into. Self-help? Dare I say... therapy? Or is self-help and therapy only bad when the victims use it?
Some interesting mental gymnastics.
My unhinged estranged mother died last week now I get to have a real funeral for her since I'm not getting invited to the actual funeral.
We gave her everything ye congrats you met the MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS!!!!
These groups will never last. A narcissistic parents need for attention will never let them allow one another to have the floor, sooner or later they'll be turning on each other and the entire community will collapse.
I wish someone would parody her this is so close to being the most hilarious satire ever but it’s just a grift unfortunately
Like the guy who does Gypsy Rose parodies. That would be awesome.😂
Hahaha I bet my mom tells people my brother and I are estranged from her and our father for no reason. 😂 Rest assured, she knows full well.
Yeah narcissist love saying it happened out of no where and for zero reason and magically never mention the 5 page essay and multiple conversations about the problem.
My mom tells people that my blood pressure medication made me go crazy. Not kidding.
@Fauntleroy. yup once you say they did anything wrong all of a sudden you're crazy because them doing anything wrong is impossible and crazy lol
I literally just came across one of her shorts yesterday and I was already looking forward to seeing the reactions
Not the soft piano 🙃🤢
It's the same soundtrack as a local TV news station's health and wellness update.
It’s just gross that she’s decided she’s the expert on this shit.
I agree M. The people drawn to her want to win. That’s the problem. They want to win with their kids but can’t possibly consider admitting fault. What a sad pitiful existence for them.
There are so many things to find repugnant about Diane, but these videos display a profound and smug martyrdom completely devoid of humility or self reflection. Or empathy. People should try to heal from things like this, but Diane leaves no room for the possibility that the parents were actually at fault. Not every estranged parent is necessarily a monster, but none of them will ever be able to repair these relationships if the foundation for their sorrow is "my ungrateful kid won't talk to me because someone convinced them I was a bad parent".
Narcissists are too often incapable of viewing any given situation without framing themselves as the victim. Diane is preying on these people with garbage advice, but really it's all about garnering attention for herself. It's disgusting, and it's obvious why her kids have gone no contact.
How do you victimise yourself so badly that when your own kids decide to disown you because you were a pos to them, instead of reflecting and trying to find out what you did wrong you hold A FUNERAL 😭😭
Narcissist are monsters. They will discard anyone before making actual changes
My mom would end up making a channel like this in the future probably when I cut off, then all the comments will be praising her and saying she was valid for yelling at me over my weak immune system and knee disability
Just grow a new immune system, it's not hard /s
She’s got such a smirk on her face. Almost smiling (thinking about all the money she is going to make).
Patty does look like a 40 year old. But would a 40 year old have had time to finally make her kid give up on her? Maybe Diane thinks she looks Patty's age
Her hair isn't hairing properly. I can't concentrate.
IT'S SO ANGRY!
I never met my maternal grandfather. Mom had walked out of the house the day she turned 18 and moved into a neighbor’s house. She graduated high school, got married, had 3 kids and moved to a nearby city, then to another state. If she wanted the family to know something, she would tell her sister, who told their stepmother. As a kid, I never understood why, but when I was in my 40s, mom all but admitted there had been abuse in the household. In any case, after her father died, she restarted her relationship with her stepmother until the latter’s death. Mom kept a picture of her and her stepmom, laughing uproariously, on the fridge. I can absolutely understand why adult children go no contact.
9:30 I swear she got the script from AI.
my takeaway? her eyebrows are VERY uneven
Her eyebrow energy is very unsettling.
Poorly-done botox
Finally!! A comment in the YT section that might get her attention and awareness.
The phrasing is so melodramatic yikes
What I'm noticing is that every video is the same message - the parent's kids went no contact out of the blue (and there is no context to the history of that separation, conveniently enough); the parents struggled for a while, and then "accepted and forgave" themselves and found other things in their life to focus on. So the underlying message is, before the kids went no contact, the parent had no inner life of their own, nothing of value to focus on, no self awareness - it was the children's responsibility to provide that parent with a sense of meaning, purpose and with a sense of self. Diane is a fraud who hates therapists but uses therapy speak to sell her grift; but since she IS a fraud, she is blind to how easy it is to see through her messaging for anyone with a modicum of self awareness.
Yup her focus is "parents kids were amazing and one day stopped dealing with parents" which clearly puts the blame on the kids. Oh and then you find out Dianies daughter sent her a letter explaning why she's leaving but Dianie calls the reasons "weak" and it's just an angry letter and it would blow over. I've found narcissist can't comprehend the importance of having a sit down and talking things through, they think everything just blows over. I also found Dianies daughters tok tok and SHOCKER Dianie was liying. Dianies daughter explains how her parents dont take her serious and will never take accountability and how they don't understand estrangment hurts her also.
I've literally commented why are you liying that your daughter gave no reasons when I'm watching her tik tok Dianie and Dianie of course ignores it to heart comments agreeing she's the victim. Narcissist are sick
Not the adderall 😂
Ok i’ll just say it. AI generated ass stories 💀💀💀
Edit: wrote this before i finished the video, glad im not the only one who thought this
I usually do a reverse Diane; I often buy my kids a little something on my birthday. Last year was a little beanie baby and chocolates for each of them.
It’s hilarious to get mad at being called a narcissist when you’ve literally built a business on being a toxic parent. 😂
34:36 She presents estrangment like she had no life or love due to having a relationship with her kids. Which also puts her in victim hood and how she expects her children owe her.
Omg you’re hilarious!
Diane is the absolute worst. Her daughter is much better off. I hope she hasn’t seen any of her vile videos.
27:35 your thesaurus joke tho 😂😂😂😂😂😂 🦕
the b roll footage is absolutely killing me 😂😂😂
Take a shot every time a character “admits” something and RIP. Also, my mom leaves all these bitches in the dust, she handled me going no contact like a champ, we both grew as people, and now we’re closer than ever. Diane will never have that experience.
Having a funeralesc ceremony instead of fixing your issues sure is an interesting option