ok.. that's what I said.. no one really does well CONSISTENTLY against Armada anyways that is NOT a god. Only gods + Leffen (Top 6) have had streaks against Armada. so you're just reaffirming my point.
It's definitely up there. Leffen v Mango at Genesis 4 and Mango v Armada at Royal Flush are also contenders. We shall wait and see if another comes around
Is it possible they're so close in skill it doesn't matter. It's Robert Fischer vs Magnus Carlsen. They're both World Champions yet one slightly outclasses the other.
Ah man, Plup sees this out and I'd imagine he wins GFs. That woulda propelled him up a whole new level. Hope he doesn't regress to being 5th-ish from here, 3rd beating Leff and Hbox is very good of course, but he's good enough to get to winning positions like this regularly.
JebaJebaJemeh He usually loses to m2k(tho he's pulled out a set win here n there vs him), goes about even with mango, n gets mauled by Armada(beating Armada or coming close to it will be the key for plup ascending to that next level)
strawhats100 pretty much. though I think he could beat Armada too - Sheik v Peach is pretty good for Sheik. Also sometimes when he's plays M2K he's been off for one reason or another, it's not unwinable for him. it's good to be optimistic with Plup - its kinda boring how most others haven't shown much to break the mould at the top.
Nah, not really. Leffen vs. Mango at G4, Mango vs. Armada at Royal Flush, m2k vs. Armada at Evo, Plup vs Hbox and m2k at Dreamhack. All of those are better imo. Hell, S2J vs. Armada at G4 was hype af as well.
Yeah but Mang0 vs Armada at Royal Flush was 10 games for 1st place. And it was I'm pretty sure the first time Armada dropped a set since again to Mang0 at The Big House 6. That was such a huge and intense moment. Even though I think Leffen vs Mang0 is the cooler match up
On the second yoshis story game hmw says "whenever I play this on netplay I always fall through the platform and down air, take all that percent" but that's exactly what mango did the first game there and plup just wavedashed back grabbed
HMW thoughts on Falco matchups: Falco vs Marth: "Marth wins" Falco vs Sheik: "Sheik wins" Falco vs Fox: "Fox wins" Falco vs Peach: "Peach wins" Falco vs Puff: "Puff wins" Falco vs Falcon: "I think Falcon w....even" Falco vs Falco: "Falco wins...I mean mirror matchup"
Falco beats all characters except puff and peach as the 2nd hardest matchup for him. The thing is ppl play him to hyper aggresive. In this game if you over extend you die, this rule apply 2x to falco
Just wish he played like this everytime. i understand playing at this level is taxing but he needs to understand he has to win for his kid and for the game. Mango is Melee.
This set is convincing me that punish outweighs neutral. It seemed like plup was solidly beating him in neutral for most of the set but mango just punished way harder at the right times
Waffles is honestly mad smart and has a lot of insight he manages to squeeze in on commentary. I'm glad he's still around.
Add to that he isn't boring at all as one would imagine from someone so knowledgeable and analytical. Total package melee commentator imo.
@Emerson Ameer 😂
This has to be the truest set between these two. Mango and Plup were playing amazing.
Summit 2, where Mango had an even nuttier combo to win the set.
AbatedToast77 yeah summit 2 set was better
AbatedToast77 don't forget tbh5 I think. the laser uptilt combo
shine 2016*
I'll say this again, but Mang0 - Plup sets are godlike when both are playing in their peak.
Speaking of "peak"...... THE BEAK IS AT ITS PEAK Kreygasm
Why does Mang0 get the sickest combo at the end every time he plays Plup? XD
@@Greatermaxim wtf are you talking about dawg
@@il100374 Nothing. Have fun.
Exp. In Chess it happens to me too.
Plup literally takes all the gods to game 5 so consistently....hes always so close!
Oma Miesta Armada??
Never taken Armada to game 5.
ok calm down, only against Armada, but who really does well against Armada Consistently anyways thats not a god..
ExilixE Plup hasn't taken a game from Armada much less two games to force a game 5 situation.
ok.. that's what I said.. no one really does well CONSISTENTLY against Armada anyways that is NOT a god. Only gods + Leffen (Top 6) have had streaks against Armada. so you're just reaffirming my point.
16:14 Shoutout to camera girl #1 with the mango popoff
I saw that, that's where the mean boss goes, WHAT AM I PAYING YOU FOR, TAKE PICTURES!
I think we got a contender for one of the best sets of the year.
It's definitely up there. Leffen v Mango at Genesis 4 and Mango v Armada at Royal Flush are also contenders. We shall wait and see if another comes around
tfw all of them have Mang0 in them
I was rooting for Plup for most of the tourney like hella people, but Mang0 took his soul on those last two stocks of FoD holy shit.
Is it possible they're so close in skill it doesn't matter. It's Robert Fischer vs Magnus Carlsen. They're both World Champions yet one slightly outclasses the other.
Ah man, Plup sees this out and I'd imagine he wins GFs. That woulda propelled him up a whole new level. Hope he doesn't regress to being 5th-ish from here, 3rd beating Leff and Hbox is very good of course, but he's good enough to get to winning positions like this regularly.
JebaJebaJemeh He usually loses to m2k(tho he's pulled out a set win here n there vs him), goes about even with mango, n gets mauled by Armada(beating Armada or coming close to it will be the key for plup ascending to that next level)
strawhats100 pretty much. though I think he could beat Armada too - Sheik v Peach is pretty good for Sheik. Also sometimes when he's plays M2K he's been off for one reason or another, it's not unwinable for him.
it's good to be optimistic with Plup - its kinda boring how most others haven't shown much to break the mould at the top.
The MaNg0: 0-to-death Plup in game 5 last stock after a tight set
Another great set. SmashCon turning into my fav tourney this year. Probably cuz Armada not here to body everybody.
Mango always finishes his sets against Plup with a fucking nasty combo. Always against Plup. lol Poor guy.
This set was amazing
7:45 The guy with the nachos lol
This was the set of the year so far
Nah, not really. Leffen vs. Mango at G4, Mango vs. Armada at Royal Flush, m2k vs. Armada at Evo, Plup vs Hbox and m2k at Dreamhack. All of those are better imo. Hell, S2J vs. Armada at G4 was hype af as well.
Yeah the first two you said I'd say. But definitely Armada vs Mang0 Royal Flush for me
What about Hbox vs Chu at DHA? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Mango vs Leffen was definitely better.
Yeah but Mang0 vs Armada at Royal Flush was 10 games for 1st place. And it was I'm pretty sure the first time Armada dropped a set since again to Mang0 at The Big House 6. That was such a huge and intense moment. Even though I think Leffen vs Mang0 is the cooler match up
On the second yoshis story game hmw says "whenever I play this on netplay I always fall through the platform and down air, take all that percent" but that's exactly what mango did the first game there and plup just wavedashed back grabbed
One of the best sets of 2017 imo
Mang0 looking crazy strong
If you're confused about what "The Mang0" is you should watch game 4 of this set.
HMW thoughts on Falco matchups:
Falco vs Marth: "Marth wins"
Falco vs Sheik: "Sheik wins"
Falco vs Fox: "Fox wins"
Falco vs Peach: "Peach wins"
Falco vs Puff: "Puff wins"
Falco vs Falcon: "I think Falcon w....even"
Falco vs Falco: "Falco wins...I mean mirror matchup"
John Mk Armada: "Peach is one of the worst characters in the game. And I hate puff.
Falco beats all characters except puff and peach as the 2nd hardest matchup for him. The thing is ppl play him to hyper aggresive. In this game if you over extend you die, this rule apply 2x to falco
There was honestly just no stopping mang0 this tournament
Just wish he played like this everytime. i understand playing at this level is taxing but he needs to understand he has to win for his kid and for the game. Mango is Melee.
That tech at the end of game 1 won the game for Mango
The most divisive crowd and twitch chat's been in a while :O
Why does this only have 64K views, such an amazing set, super underrated! One for the fans!!!
Game 4 was absolutely vintage mang0
mango was at downtown disney today in his cloud 9 shirt lol
8:07 That is not safe mango!
damn mango gets the craziest combos on plup to end the set constantly
13:02 is an insanely fast grab
This was a bloody beast of a set!!
WINNERS MANG0 PogCHAMP KREYGASM
This comment game me terminal cancer.
16:06 Combo
How Mango played this tourney was Mangoat mode like no lie
Ri.I.P. Melee Sheik, Ultimates is a sad and pathetic example, I guess she actually aged between games, being all weak and crippled now.
16:06 say no more fam
Watched that last combo like 20 times. MANGO IS NUTS
mango crisp af
That last combo WOW
Definitely set of the year. At least as a Mang0 fan
mango vs leffen genesis 4?
mango vs armada royal flush?
both going nuts game 5
Melee=MaNg0
Is plup gonna do it?
:) this makes me happy
melee at its finest
Horrifying seeing a sheik with actual tech skill
My pants the colour of falco's jacket gah damn
To me the hardest part of that last combo was the turn around laser to extend the combo.
noone ever suspects it and is so good when u do it last sec.
People saying that this is set of the year are either Plup fanboys or Leffen haters, or both.
Still a great set, though.
It's not like they can enjoy a player without being fanboys or anything. Fuck off.
LaMereACaniche But this set is shit compared to G4 Leff vs Mang0
1:10 Plup is NASTEEE!
YAY MANGO
Mang0 goes 0 to 69* combo-damage in a heartbeat *-*
Mango lookin crisp right here
I want pulp to win, I don't want mango to loose 🐂🕊
Dave Grohl plays Melee?
Last game, woh, mango
This set is convincing me that punish outweighs neutral. It seemed like plup was solidly beating him in neutral for most of the set but mango just punished way harder at the right times
11:55 lol
Scrappers dude
69% combo
Cut Cord Games first time I've seen 69% not be an advantageous position for the beholder
15:50 the di dude
13:30 holy moly bair to shield drop bair... the technologyyy!!!
that's not that crazy lol
I'm from mexico and is pretty funny because i was eating a "Mango" while watching mango play this xddd
This dude rides the Mang0 D for sure. Poor commentating :(
sheik is so lame