What’s it like to grow up in Dublin, Ireland? | Young and European

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  • @AnnDurcan
    @AnnDurcan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +88

    He comes across as a well mannered, smart, and respectful young man.

    • @barbechivo
      @barbechivo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As opposed to....? Sounds like Biden's gaffe when he called Obama "articulate and bright and clean."

    • @mydogisbailey
      @mydogisbailey 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@barbechivo there you go, people like you pitting races against each other for absolutely no reason. some people see everything through race and its a sad way of living

    • @silverkitty2503
      @silverkitty2503 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      absolutely

    • @silverkitty2503
      @silverkitty2503 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@barbechivo as opposed to right wing weirdos with zero manners

  • @EmanChuks
    @EmanChuks 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    A country without its language is a country without its soul. This is why culture is more important than the economy

    • @silverkitty2503
      @silverkitty2503 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      AMEN SIR! I totally agree!

    • @Faigh_as
      @Faigh_as 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      tír gan teanga, tír gan anam

    • @silverkitty2503
      @silverkitty2503 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Faigh_as aontaim

  • @loumac9312
    @loumac9312 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    He seems lovely. Polite and well brought up.

  • @frisbeetarian34
    @frisbeetarian34 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Great video but 40% fluency in Irish?? Not even close, unfortunately.

    • @cocazade7703
      @cocazade7703 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I think they meant to say 40% of people report "some ability" in speaking Irish (like having a simple conversation), according to the census

    • @ActuallyDoubleGuitars
      @ActuallyDoubleGuitars หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They said right after but that number drops right after leaving school. This includes school kids, so that number is probably right because a lot of people are proficient enough for the yest but forget it right after.

  • @johnmcgrath6192
    @johnmcgrath6192 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Lol, my parents were from Ireland (to NYC) and I have many 1st cousins once removed who are black. No big deal. But in Ireland Irish people will often ask of white Irish people, "Whereare your people from?, meaning what's the county bof your family's origin.

    • @craic5554
      @craic5554 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Irish people are an ethnic group.
      Daniel O'Connel coined the well-known saying about the Duke of Wellington: "Being born in a stable does not make one a horse."
      When the Englishman heard this, he repeated the quote because he agreed with it. The quote is often attributed to him. Take note that I referred to him as an Englishman. The Duke was born in Dublin.

    • @harshbutfair8993
      @harshbutfair8993 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @craic5554
      Unfortunately IMO, Irish is generally the term for us as an ethnic group as well as nationality.
      It would be better if the ethic group was referred to its other name more often, i.e. Gael.
      Tobias is obviously not a Gael, but he is an Irish citizen, so he's Irish for me.
      Btw precious few in Ireland are actually 100% Gaelic Irish.

  • @Aidan_Au
    @Aidan_Au 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Let's do a video for Oslo, Helsinki, Copenhagen, Reykjavík, and Stockholm

    • @MrDrinksprite
      @MrDrinksprite 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm afraid you'll find them even there nowadays my Chinese friend.

  • @patriciaredmond3996
    @patriciaredmond3996 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I don't know how i feel about this, i grew up in a neighborhood where everyone knew each other already, my parents where first generation Dublin , tribalism exists every where

    • @SmokyOle
      @SmokyOle หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This guy isn't an immigrant he grew up in the same neighborhood.

    • @Faigh_as
      @Faigh_as หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @SmokyOle but he isn't Irish, obviously. Irish citizen sure but not Irish. No disrespect to anyone that's just an obvious fact

    • @sv-bd5em
      @sv-bd5em หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      How is this an obvious fact? He was born in Ireland. Raised in Ireland. Has Irish friends. Is the only culture he knows bc it’s the only place he ever lived in. Only reason you’re saying this is bc he’s black. If he was born to white english immigrants in Ireland you wouldn’t be saying this.

    • @SmokyOle
      @SmokyOle หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Faigh_as A country is literally just borders on a map. If you grew up there then you are from there. It is what it is. If you want to get picky about guys like this going to lose the battle because this makes you look bad to everyone. Not supporting immigrants is one thing but when you don't support countrymen who look different you're not helping the cause.

    • @Faigh_as
      @Faigh_as หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @SmokyOle I'm not denying that Africans can be citizens of Ireland. The nation of Ireland is not just lines on a map. Have you ever been abroad? Have you been to India, sub-Saharan africa? I'm guessing not because they are GENERALLY unsafe, sexist, and racist. You don't have to go there to know we are not the same. They have their traditions,
      values and religions, and we have ours. He is not Irish, Chinese, or Japanese. It's nothing to be ashamed of, but he is African; It should really go without saying. Allowing our culture and society to be watered down with mass immigration is not virtuous. It's pathetic, and we're paying the price. Do you want Ireland to become minority Irish? Are you willing to give up your country, culture and history for the purposes of growing our GDP and creating "diversity." Do you want Ireland to become like London(minority English). Stop trying to portray your weakness as kindness.

  • @zaychik02
    @zaychik02 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks a lot for subtitles!❤

  • @tonymurphy9795
    @tonymurphy9795 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Making no judgement on this individual but the impact of mass migration into Ireland has been catastrophic.

  • @yezzitv
    @yezzitv หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Big up Tobias wow 👏👏👏

  • @scottg3456
    @scottg3456 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice watch, believe that this young man will indeed go on to do great things, especially since he comes across as positive, kind and with a good work ethic.

  • @barbechivo
    @barbechivo หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    If Tobias feels so Irish why does he use "them" and "they" when referring to the Irish. "They have good hearts" etc, ???

    • @harshbutfair8993
      @harshbutfair8993 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Because he obviously acknowledges he has a different background to white Irish, so what, not acknowledging that difference would be stupid and would be of the political correctness that so many of the people who like your comment would be complaining about.
      He's Nigerian, he's Irish, you can be both in a world where people move around a lot.

    • @barbechivo
      @barbechivo 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@harshbutfair8993 before proffering an argument please improve your writing skills.

  • @cem2503
    @cem2503 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    We have similar issues here in Germany regarding not being considered German because of the way we look

    • @nicolasbrennan5129
      @nicolasbrennan5129 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      We have similar issues here in Pakistan regarding not being considered Pakistani because of the way we look

    • @Faigh_as
      @Faigh_as 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@cem2503 South Africans have that issue a lot I hear

    • @tonymurphy9795
      @tonymurphy9795 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And they're not German. If I was born in Japan (I'm red-haired blue-eyed Irish) would people think I'm Japanese?

    • @urban8540
      @urban8540 หลายเดือนก่อน

      germans are white u know a germanic tribe native to germany.

    • @maintaininganonymity234
      @maintaininganonymity234 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@tonymurphy9795Ethnicity is different from nationality. Why does Germany have a naturalisation process if you need to have German ethnicity to be German?

  • @thehypetraveler8114
    @thehypetraveler8114 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    if it is irish, i am chinese.

  • @GuliversTravelocity
    @GuliversTravelocity 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    By the logic of so many people there are no such thing as a white American, white Australian, white South Africans etc because they don’t speak the language of the indigenous people and have ancestry that originated elsewhere. Regardless of if they were born in that country or not. It doesn’t make sense. Many of the people commenting are not living in the places that their ancestors came from…

    • @Faigh_as
      @Faigh_as 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ireland has never seen this level of immigration

    • @cboy0394
      @cboy0394 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Faigh_asExcept it has. Given that the English invaded the country and sent a bunch of English workers and landowners.

    • @Faigh_as
      @Faigh_as หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@cboy0394 not even close. We have over 100,000 a year immigrating to Ireland now. But English people are much more similar culturally to Irish people than the Indians and Africans that we're getting now.

    • @GuliversTravelocity
      @GuliversTravelocity หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Faigh_as Literally Africans have been in Ireland since the invention of chattel slavery by Europeans. The issue with immigration towards Africans seems to be a problem when they come on their own free will.

    • @GuliversTravelocity
      @GuliversTravelocity หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cboy0394 They don't have a problem with other wyt people coming to invade and take resources they have a problem with Africans coming to study and pay taxes.

  • @dhaloh
    @dhaloh หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    turkey and potatoes for ONLY 7.99 EUR??? As a Latvian, consider me shocked

  • @HoO-t9j
    @HoO-t9j 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I'm irish and I went to Kenya. I now feel very proud to be a luo man. Can I get on Kenya T.V now.

  • @chancellorjake
    @chancellorjake 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    The racism in these comments is so gross.

    • @jason4275
      @jason4275 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      its from cowards who will never achieved anything in their lives.

    • @CGM_68
      @CGM_68 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The real question is what are TH-cam doing to prevent Russian Troll farms spamming the comments section with such divisive hateful messages? Not much by the looks of things currently. Most of these are fake accounts, which are easy to spot since they spout Russian Imperialist nonsense, things which no European would say .

    • @user-ze8yy8jg1f
      @user-ze8yy8jg1f 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@CGM_68
      That's actually a fact if you look at Moat of these irish they have completely generated users like micheal collins and Brian boru 😂
      The foreigners are even worse for not seeing this.

    • @randomuruk7230
      @randomuruk7230 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@jason4275 I mean, you couldn't even achieve the satisfaction of a coherent sentence. Throwing stones in glass houses are we?

    • @jason4275
      @jason4275 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@randomuruk7230 Sounds like you're on the list I mention.

  • @violetgoesshopping
    @violetgoesshopping หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This is literally normal people wow. Connell's chain even. He seems so nice

    • @johnmcgrath6192
      @johnmcgrath6192 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Big influence of Ireoland in Nigeria. I have some Irish cousins married to Nigerians. Very compatible in culture, very at ease with each other.

  • @ribbrascal
    @ribbrascal 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    He's neither Irish nor European.

  • @HenryHolden-b2k
    @HenryHolden-b2k หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    As an American of Irish descent (100%) who is married to a black person, I am delighted to see this diversity in Ireland.

    • @themaskedman221
      @themaskedman221 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Well, as long as it has your approval sire 🤣

    • @JaxonSmith-sg2rd
      @JaxonSmith-sg2rd หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      How's the racial division working out in the USA? 🤦🏼‍♂️

    • @Faigh_as
      @Faigh_as หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@HenryHolden-b2k DEI merchant

    • @Grmario85
      @Grmario85 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is lovely and young but not European. He is African. Europe must remain white. We did not sign up for racial diversity. This is not America

    • @craigieplaysstuff
      @craigieplaysstuff หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You just polluted your heritage congrats 😝

  • @lucasfontainha9053
    @lucasfontainha9053 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    God bless Tobias and may he be shielded from bigots and far-righters 🙏

  • @rachelnidhugain5398
    @rachelnidhugain5398 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Its funny how at the end of the video, they talk about the microaggression of "where are you really from?" And then you look at the comments on this video.... He was literally BORN in Ireland! What more proof do you guys want that he is Irish, for him to be white and have blue eyes and be ginger? I find it weird that we hold prejudices for people who hage lived their entire lives in this country, and we still don't welcome them as our own. When he is clearly integrated into our society, claims his irishness... I'm glad to see all people from Ireland getting a voice.

    • @jimsully9851
      @jimsully9851 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      He claims his Irishness, but is very active in othering himself from society (even allowing a news piece highlighting it) and would an Irish person talk about Irish people as ‘they’ as he does at the end? Clearly his self identity is somewhat mixed anyway

    • @JaxonSmith-sg2rd
      @JaxonSmith-sg2rd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But white South Africans born in South Africa are colonists and invaders right? 😒

    • @GuliversTravelocity
      @GuliversTravelocity 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jimsully9851 You clearly don’t understand intersectional identity. Have you read the comments? Is he othering himself or is he being othered? Why is it that when Black people of any nationality share their experiences of racism, more people are angry about that persons acknowledgement of racism than the actual racism that you yourself are reading in the comments, that you heard from his own mouth, or from the stories that are in literature, movies, and first hand experiences? At this point your willful ignorance should be studied. Is it a mental illness? I honestly don’t know.

    • @LeMerch
      @LeMerch 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jimsully9851because of the amount of othering he receives

    • @randomuruk7230
      @randomuruk7230 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because he will never be Irish, you're a straight up m0r0n if you think otherwise. Wouldn't matter how long I live in China I'd never be Chinese. Doesn't matter how long I live in Nigeria I'd never be Nigerian. If I was born in space I wouldn't be an extraterrestrial alien I'd just be a human who happened to be born in space.

  • @echo8665
    @echo8665 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    🇮🇪🔥🔥

  • @sv-bd5em
    @sv-bd5em หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Fella cannot pronounce the th sound to save his life - how is there any doubt about how Irish he is?

  • @AJ_real
    @AJ_real 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Dublin people have a huge chip on their shoulder when it comes to outsiders. Anyone from the countryside knows it all too well.

    • @themaskedman221
      @themaskedman221 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The girl in this video who speaks Irish seems to like it there, and you damn well know she didn't grow up in Dublin.

    • @TE-xk4tg
      @TE-xk4tg 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Frankly it sounds to me like it's you who has the "chip on the shoulder".

  • @ot7stan207
    @ot7stan207 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    if a white boy grew up in china, speaks the language, does all the holidays, he is AS chinese as me who is american but is chinese by ethcniity. I really dont get what issue is, its your nationality

  • @johnkelly7692
    @johnkelly7692 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Can someone show me multiculturalism cities in Nigeria or India or the Middle East. Why is it only Western culture has to be multicultural.

    • @mjw12345
      @mjw12345 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Well, St Patricks Day is some type of national holiday in Nigeria, has I think Guinness breweries, Irish missionaries worked for a century in Nigeria (many Irish first names, recall Biafra). Recall Chinua Achebe! Delusional that multicultural is some European/USA notion!

    • @FeelingsAintFacts
      @FeelingsAintFacts 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Ever heard of Dubai in the Middle East ? Cape Town & Johannesburg in South Africa ? .. Lebanese people make up 10% of the population of Abidjan which is the capital of Ivory Coast. Nairobi Kenya also has a sizeable European and Asian population ...

    • @Faigh_as
      @Faigh_as หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FeelingsAintFacts not exactly thriving countries are they

    • @GuliversTravelocity
      @GuliversTravelocity หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnkelly7692 This is what loud ignorance looks like. It isn't only the west?
      Have you completely forgotten about colonization and slavery? There are stolen African artifacts in western Museums around the world. Have to also forgotten that Hawaii, and North, south, central America, South Africa, and many many other regions are all stolen indigenous land inhabited by people of European descent... Wow.

    • @themaskedman221
      @themaskedman221 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Faigh_as He didn't say they had to be 'thriving' -the bigot wanted to know why "multiculturalism" doesn't exist in the Global South, and two people have now shown him to be ignorant.

  • @luckylogger7594
    @luckylogger7594 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    He's an African in Dublin

    • @LPBineli
      @LPBineli 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He was born in Ireland

  • @asdfghjklyzxcvbnm
    @asdfghjklyzxcvbnm หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I don't think you can be Irish if you're not born in Ireland. Most of European countries are ethnic states. Places like America Australia which are nations that were built by immigrants are the places where you can say that you are a national despite not being born - via immigration

    • @sv-bd5em
      @sv-bd5em หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ok so if you’re born in Spain but move to Ireland at five and grow up in Ireland making it the only culture you know does that mean you’re still not Irish? If that person moved to Spain later in life they’d have more in common with Irish people his age. People here are so

    • @asdfghjklyzxcvbnm
      @asdfghjklyzxcvbnm หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nope. I am a brown person here and I stand my the opinion that Europe is an ethno-state. You gotta be European.

    • @harshbutfair8993
      @harshbutfair8993 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @asdfghjklyzxcvbnm
      Sure you are!

  • @leptir7110
    @leptir7110 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Oprostite biti Irac i imati.Irsko državljanstvo nije isto ..

    • @dweuromaxx
      @dweuromaxx  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Both apply to him...

    • @craigieplaysstuff
      @craigieplaysstuff หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@dweuromaxx he's not Irish, he's just a citizen who understands its culture

  • @mjw12345
    @mjw12345 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Lovely! It really always pisses me off: where are you really from called a microaggression - young Irish are so widely travelled there's always a very friendly interest where people are from. You're interested because you might have travelled in their country or the country their parents were from. It's just genuine cultural friendly interest.

    • @ko0974
      @ko0974 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Exactly always part of our way of talking and should not be bullied into changing who we are

    • @TheContrarianMind
      @TheContrarianMind หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tobias is a credit to both his family and Ireland. However, I was a bit confused by his response when asked about his future in Ireland. He said, 'They have good hearts, they are good people, and they're friendly and everything,' which sounded as though he didn't include himself among the Irish. Shouldn't he have said 'we' instead? It makes me wonder if he doesn't see himself as Irish. In this instance, I think he unintentionally distanced himself from the Irish people, perhaps subconsciously. Ironically, he seems to be committing the same 'microaggression' that he perceives others are guilty of.

    • @gibememoni
      @gibememoni 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheContrarianMind even he knows hes not irish

  • @danielahmed8162
    @danielahmed8162 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow 🤯😳

  • @JanieClement-h7b
    @JanieClement-h7b 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He is attractive

  • @paddyconnolly6213
    @paddyconnolly6213 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Exactly part of the culture part of the scene, integration and respect.

  • @learningvideosbynikhil8308
    @learningvideosbynikhil8308 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He’s 23 and an intern! Meanwhile(I’m 21 about to be 22 in about a week), kids here in the us feel a lot of pressure for getting something full time(especially when they are doing business)

    • @sv-bd5em
      @sv-bd5em หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ok sucks for you I guess? Not his fault the system is different in Europe

  • @newlife526
    @newlife526 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Funny how Irish citizens in Ireland are complaining about immigrants while Irish population abroad are more than 50 millions compare to current ones in Ireland. Please educate yourself complaining

    • @Atk190
      @Atk190 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When the Irish went abroad they worked you do realize that ??? Illegal migrants come here and get free food free accomadation of the taxpayers money not the exact same buddy. Silly comment

    • @Atk190
      @Atk190 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Irish built Amercia what has immigrants built in Ireland???? Went over to work while they come here for handouts. IPAS Centers across the country are full and who’s paying Irish taxpayers. Do your research silly boy

    • @LeMerch
      @LeMerch 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      What does another countries immigration policies got to do with Irelands immigration policy?

    • @pauls.2526
      @pauls.2526 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      We go abroad to work.

    • @JaxonSmith-sg2rd
      @JaxonSmith-sg2rd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Also, perhaps you should educate yourself on the English language?

  • @ErnaBjørn
    @ErnaBjørn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    prejudice is only increasing here in Norway, I was threatened by my own family, just for dating a black boy who lived in Sweden and later came to live in Norway🤦🏼‍♀️

    • @JaxonSmith-sg2rd
      @JaxonSmith-sg2rd หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It HAD to be a Scandinavian liberal woman.

    • @mistatrollge3184
      @mistatrollge3184 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Good

    • @tonymurphy9795
      @tonymurphy9795 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They did you a favour.

    • @leptir7110
      @leptir7110 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nije bilo bijelaca ,Norvežana ,

    • @maintaininganonymity234
      @maintaininganonymity234 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Far right is on the rise in Europe. The replies here are also indicating the same

  • @gieljanstouten
    @gieljanstouten หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wish i was Irish and living in Dublin. slán from NL.

  • @mallykk1202
    @mallykk1202 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dublin isn't part of ireland any more

  • @mistatrollge3184
    @mistatrollge3184 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Re-make this video with an actual Irish person next time.

    • @thoins
      @thoins หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      He is Irish ya freak

    • @urban8540
      @urban8540 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@thoins nonsense

    • @tonymurphy9795
      @tonymurphy9795 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@thoins He's not. He's an African who happened to be born in Ireland.

    • @Grmario85
      @Grmario85 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@thoins Europeans are white. Europeans are a racial group not a location. This is not America. That's why in the USA they say African American for blacks and European Americans for whites. This guy is an African in Europe.

    • @rockeee
      @rockeee หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@tonymurphy9795 You're a white person who just so happened to be born in Ireland with no doubt British and/or Scandinavian and even the odd time Iberian DNA making up part of you..what's your point?

  • @d3r4g45
    @d3r4g45 หลายเดือนก่อน

    guys we found the Demoman!

  • @FreeSpeech-q7v
    @FreeSpeech-q7v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Suuurrreeee

  • @poo81
    @poo81 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    No one cares

  • @samiraolivier11
    @samiraolivier11 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Lmfao people just discovering black Irish 😂😂

    • @ribbrascal
      @ribbrascal 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That's not what "black Irish" means
      He's not Irish at all

    • @Faigh_as
      @Faigh_as 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "Lmfao people just discovering black Irish 😂😂"

  • @Faigh_as
    @Faigh_as 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Ffs