Year of the linux desktop was 2023 for me, and as of a week ago i have finally completed the full Microsoft purge. Haven't looked back a single time, and it feels sooo good to live in a Microsoft free house
So in essence by disabling the feature I actually get the old file file explorer which doesn't have Sharepoint and various crap shoehorned into it and is more performant? That's a feature in my book!
Regarding Recall from the very beginning I thought no way it was developed as a service (in the basic meaning) for the users; it was created as a improved new way to steal information from the people, telling them it was a simply nostalgic gadget. So after all the uproar it received M$ just hide the user part of it, I mean the visible part, the interface, but as shown, Recall basis is already there. Most likely they can expand its development in background and I'd not surprised if it could be remotely enabled through updates or manually. This is sheer Micro$oft, they're just looking fr better ways to get user behaviours to be reselled, this is a LOT of potential money.
Default state of Recall is "Enabled" on upgrade and on fresh install of 24H2....(Locale USA). The new install was tested on a VM using VMware Workstation ver 17.6.1. The upgrade was tested on a laptop coming from 23H2 to 24H2
I did recently switch to Linux (because of the advertising in the start menu, before recall was anounced) and I'm mostly ok but not having a lot of fun with nvidia drivers yet.
Yeah corporate squad gotta have each others back, No Nvidia drivers for u, you have to suffer!!!! go back! back go! back go back! go back!! I want your data, sniff sniff data gemme gemme
@@AmenGamer-jp3vo OpenSUSE Tumbleweed has drivers, but they're the 550 drivers, so Wayland has the flicker problem as that's only fixed in 555 or later. Given Tumbleweed's a rolling release it's a bit odd.
At this point, if I can get everything in my network to run Arch linux or a derivative, I'll be happy. Been a Windows user since 3.01, but at this point I'm so done with Microsoft adding "features" I don't want or need. The few snags I have: CAD, mainly Rhinoceros, Solidworks, Solid Edge and Fusion doesn't play well with a linx env. And I still have to figure out how to play with PLC's without a VM. Otherwise I'll have to have a Windows box, either firewalled or disconnected.
Been dual booting linux for a while in preparation for this Recall stuff, but always kept putting it off. Yesterday when I got home from work, my windows bootloader was suddenly completely borked. Was surprisingly easy to make the switch to linux at that point. Took like 15min to get steam, discord, etc. up and running. And the "unsupported" game I'm currently playing worked perfectly with just one run arg in steam, mods and everything.
I think all of us power users knew this would happen. W10 will serve me just fine for years to come(with firewall blocking all potential recall updates), just like W7 did.
W11 24H2 IoT Enterprise LTSC 26100.2161 here. Recall is also enabled by default even though I got a clean installation and already debloated and optimized the entire system.
It can be prevented by making changes to the Group Policies in regards of what is, and what is not, installed. As it is now, my computers will never see any Recall.
Running Windows 11 on Lenovo Yoga 7x (Snapdragon Elite X1E78100) bought and pre-installed in the Netherlands, English language, updated to latest . I find recall installed AND enabled.
Thats good to know because I just wiped everything...I'm all in on linux on everything...almost bare metal on the macbook air....ARM on everything cheers
If I need to keep a windows PC, my plan is, make a disk image before I use it, then keep it offline. Once a year, I will wipe the drive clean, restore the disk image and let it go online to Update itself. After that make a new Disk Image, and keep it offline.
3 months late, but after running the DISM command on my last remaining Windows system (24h2 26100.2894) Recall is disabled without my intervention. TBH, I don't care if Recall is running on that PC, I've physically disconnected all of my other drives, formatted them to ext4, and completely isolated Windows in its own box for the like 2 games I play that dis-support Linux (and the days I'm spending on those games is numbered) Plus, I have a special wallpaper that depicts all of the worlds worst things being locked away on Alcatraz Island... Including Hitler, Ticks, Xi Jinping, Activision, Disney, and of course, Recall... I can only hope that Recall snaps a picture of it and sends it back to Satya Nadellas desk. [USA / 9900K, for reference]
does the disable Recall Function in O&O-Shutup not work? In my Office root Folder I got a recall.dll which has the rights to read "all Applications" - "system", " Admins" and "users"...... Can we find out what it does? BTW Iam on "23H2". "DISM /Online /Get-FeatureInfo /FeatureName=Recall" gives me a negative though.... updates paused... phew
I am a bit late to the party, noticed in the previous days that even users not having the Copilot+ computers got Recall installed and many freaked out. My modest understanding is, that Microsoft is lazy AF and they developed this dependency for the future releases of Win11 24 version, and regardless of hardware, you have it there, just it cannot run the same way it will on the Copilot+ hardware. When you initiate a new Win11 machine with the Copilot+ hardware (or even without), you should lave a choice at the beginning whether you want to run this spyware or not. So I suppose that it will have an impact on how it configures everything from that point, that if you click no to this spyware, it will launch everything else fine. But if you installed the whole 24 version today on the whole, clicking yes to everything, it comes embedded and removing it will affect other elements. That's how I understand the whole issue. Might be wrong though. The rumour has it that EU made Microsoft comply with their regulations and the Recall can be uninstalled, but this luxury has not been granted to the rest of the world. Which always brings me to the thought why MS couldn't separate the markets regarding Clownstrike and similar products having kernel access. Why the EU ruling had to affect the entire globe and MS blaming EU from it. Does anyone know?
Ahhhhhhh ill release my desktop ive been working on for years yall wont have to deal with that explorer and recall you can actually switch shells like to bblean and yasb
Chris, please make a video of this when you have time so I can send it to my friends. It would just be a bit easier than giving them the stream with timestamps. Thanks for doin the dive.
I discovered this past weekend in Windows 10 that if you uninstall Copilot that the file explorer is dependent on it now. The whole file system crashes badly. So badly, that I had to install Linux Mint. Could not re-install 10 via USB flash drive. This is on a 2020 PC before TPM 2.0, so my hardware isn't compatible nor can upgrade to Windows 11. Friendly heads up on a new wrinkle in this story.
Year of the linux desktop was 2023 for me, and as of a week ago i have finally completed the full Microsoft purge.
Haven't looked back a single time, and it feels sooo good to live in a Microsoft free house
Cool dude, i also switched to Linux but no need to brag about it.
Whats the betting Microsoft extends the life of Windows 10 by putting recall in it?
100%
they definitely doing that, ruining even windows 10 users lifes
@@elygaming4331 you know it's coming when you cannot get 10 from Microsoft website anymore
they would install recall on windows 10 just to drive everyone off it XD
Configure your firewall = no more updates. 👈
So in essence by disabling the feature I actually get the old file file explorer which doesn't have Sharepoint and various crap shoehorned into it and is more performant? That's a feature in my book!
Regarding Recall from the very beginning I thought no way it was developed as a service (in the basic meaning) for the users; it was created as a improved new way to steal information from the people, telling them it was a simply nostalgic gadget. So after all the uproar it received M$ just hide the user part of it, I mean the visible part, the interface, but as shown, Recall basis is already there. Most likely they can expand its development in background and I'd not surprised if it could be remotely enabled through updates or manually. This is sheer Micro$oft, they're just looking fr better ways to get user behaviours to be reselled, this is a LOT of potential money.
LOOVE te thumbnail. and the analysis was entertainment!
Default state of Recall is "Enabled" on upgrade and on fresh install of 24H2....(Locale USA). The new install was tested on a VM using VMware Workstation ver 17.6.1. The upgrade was tested on a laptop coming from 23H2 to 24H2
Doing peoples work Chris - thanks for the deep dive video on this!
Thank you for all your hard work.
Recall is probably hiding in some library
I did recently switch to Linux (because of the advertising in the start menu, before recall was anounced) and I'm mostly ok but not having a lot of fun with nvidia drivers yet.
Yeah corporate squad gotta have each others back, No Nvidia drivers for u, you have to suffer!!!! go back! back go! back go back! go back!! I want your data, sniff sniff data gemme gemme
What distro are you using where nvidia drivers are difficult to install? Or is it a laptop with a dgpu?
@@AmenGamer-jp3vo OpenSUSE Tumbleweed has drivers, but they're the 550 drivers, so Wayland has the flicker problem as that's only fixed in 555 or later. Given Tumbleweed's a rolling release it's a bit odd.
I love it when Microsoft messes up things
At this point, if I can get everything in my network to run Arch linux or a derivative, I'll be happy.
Been a Windows user since 3.01, but at this point I'm so done with Microsoft adding "features" I don't want or need.
The few snags I have: CAD, mainly Rhinoceros, Solidworks, Solid Edge and Fusion doesn't play well with a linx env.
And I still have to figure out how to play with PLC's without a VM. Otherwise I'll have to have a Windows box, either firewalled or disconnected.
A Hacky but probably effective solution might be a startup script.
It's tough to see things get this wild.
Been dual booting linux for a while in preparation for this Recall stuff, but always kept putting it off. Yesterday when I got home from work, my windows bootloader was suddenly completely borked. Was surprisingly easy to make the switch to linux at that point. Took like 15min to get steam, discord, etc. up and running. And the "unsupported" game I'm currently playing worked perfectly with just one run arg in steam, mods and everything.
I think all of us power users knew this would happen. W10 will serve me just fine for years to come(with firewall blocking all potential recall updates), just like W7 did.
24H2 Win 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC, 26100.2033. Enabled by default, hidden. Not fresh install
W11 24H2 IoT Enterprise LTSC 26100.2161 here. Recall is also enabled by default even though I got a clean installation and already debloated and optimized the entire system.
I can live with the old file explorer.
copilot needs as much food as possible and microsoft is doing everything needed no matter if legal or not…
It can be prevented by making changes to the Group Policies in regards of what is, and what is not, installed.
As it is now, my computers will never see any Recall.
Running Windows 11 on Lenovo Yoga 7x (Snapdragon Elite X1E78100) bought and pre-installed in the Netherlands, English language, updated to latest . I find recall installed AND enabled.
comes from Denmark and mine is enable fresh install
Thats good to know because I just wiped everything...I'm all in on linux on everything...almost bare metal on the macbook air....ARM on everything cheers
lovely it is enabled by default
scheduler a task that checks & disables recall every hour.
Why bother removing or disabling? They'll just put it back
... was there, did disable... for the explorer UI i use thet haz StartAllBack made... greatings from Latvia!!
Take Ownership. Could you add the option to WinUtil?
What about a GPO that would stop it from running on boot. You can do that in a domain and locally.
What is this GPO called? I want to look it up to learn about it.
If I need to keep a windows PC, my plan is, make a disk image before I use it, then keep it offline.
Once a year, I will wipe the drive clean, restore the disk image and let it go online to Update itself. After that make a new Disk Image, and keep it offline.
I need to escape to Linux
3 months late, but after running the DISM command on my last remaining Windows system (24h2 26100.2894) Recall is disabled without my intervention.
TBH, I don't care if Recall is running on that PC, I've physically disconnected all of my other drives, formatted them to ext4, and completely isolated Windows in its own box for the like 2 games I play that dis-support Linux (and the days I'm spending on those games is numbered)
Plus, I have a special wallpaper that depicts all of the worlds worst things being locked away on Alcatraz Island... Including Hitler, Ticks, Xi Jinping, Activision, Disney, and of course, Recall... I can only hope that Recall snaps a picture of it and sends it back to Satya Nadellas desk.
[USA / 9900K, for reference]
does the disable Recall Function in O&O-Shutup not work? In my Office root Folder I got a recall.dll which has the rights to read "all Applications" - "system", " Admins" and "users"...... Can we find out what it does? BTW Iam on "23H2". "DISM /Online /Get-FeatureInfo /FeatureName=Recall" gives me a negative though.... updates paused... phew
can we make some anti-cheat style program that just blocks Recall from doing anything other than be installed?
Yes, we can't be the only ones to notice this bs
24 H2 yes it was enabled Usa.
no you weren't lying it is a dependency wda F is Micro$oft doing?!
rocking Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2, no recall or copilot or device encryption here
The permanent one or 90 day one?
@@SalWare686 permanent, IOT, not the evaluation
I am a bit late to the party, noticed in the previous days that even users not having the Copilot+ computers got Recall installed and many freaked out. My modest understanding is, that Microsoft is lazy AF and they developed this dependency for the future releases of Win11 24 version, and regardless of hardware, you have it there, just it cannot run the same way it will on the Copilot+ hardware.
When you initiate a new Win11 machine with the Copilot+ hardware (or even without), you should lave a choice at the beginning whether you want to run this spyware or not. So I suppose that it will have an impact on how it configures everything from that point, that if you click no to this spyware, it will launch everything else fine. But if you installed the whole 24 version today on the whole, clicking yes to everything, it comes embedded and removing it will affect other elements. That's how I understand the whole issue. Might be wrong though. The rumour has it that EU made Microsoft comply with their regulations and the Recall can be uninstalled, but this luxury has not been granted to the rest of the world. Which always brings me to the thought why MS couldn't separate the markets regarding Clownstrike and similar products having kernel access. Why the EU ruling had to affect the entire globe and MS blaming EU from it. Does anyone know?
Glad I've made the move off of the windows
Ahhhhhhh ill release my desktop ive been working on for years yall wont have to deal with that explorer and recall you can actually switch shells like to bblean and yasb
Dolphin.exe exists btw
I wish someone would come out with doors...
it's a shame ReactOS is only 32 bit. Could have been a life saver.
Awesome
Chris, please make a video of this when you have time so I can send it to my friends. It would just be a bit easier than giving them the stream with timestamps. Thanks for doin the dive.
I discovered this past weekend in Windows 10 that if you uninstall Copilot that the file explorer is dependent on it now. The whole file system crashes badly. So badly, that I had to install Linux Mint. Could not re-install 10 via USB flash drive. This is on a 2020 PC before TPM 2.0, so my hardware isn't compatible nor can upgrade to Windows 11. Friendly heads up on a new wrinkle in this story.
No need to worry about spyware or malware, it now comes built into Windows.
Thankfully Microsoft has Recall enabled by default so I don't have to go through complicated menus and activate it myself.
Why do they want this so bad?