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Mall walking and food court meals are long lost. It's a shame because there was such a vibe about spending your Saturday, wandering around the mall, going shop to shop and having lunch/dinner in the food court. Maybe catching a movie while you were there. It was an all day event that kids nowadays will never get to experience.
I grew up with malls. I get the nostalgia but I didn't like planning my day to go to one. We'd have to deal with traffic, parking, waiting in lines, being in a theater with strangers kicking my seat, possibly sick, phones going off in theaters, among other things. Food courts tended to have questionable food safety practices, and their food were pretty fast food like.
They did this to a closed mall near where I grew up in Western New York. They turned it into a assisted living facility with senior citizens apartments. There are a few stores that they brought back, such as a mid size grocery store, etc,,, which is very convenient for the senior residents.
As a senior citizen, I would jump at the idea if the rent was reasonable. And if they would allow me to have my little dog. Here in Cincinnati, we have 2 ¹/² large malls that are closed or partially closed.
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I think this is genius. So many malls are abandoned. This solves 2 problems, at once.
Some of these new projects have a bank branch,post office and drug store along with a dry cleaners, laundromat, hair salon and a minimart for groceries. It makes it very convenient.
You guys were just in Portland Oregon, and they are turning the Lloyd Center Mall into multi-use housing upstairs with the mall and movie theater downstairs.
This is interesting and really cool because we have the existing structures and areas that can be used instead of bulldozing forests and nature areas. Another thing that developers are doing is converting old hotels and resorts into apartments. I live in an apartment that was once two hotel rooms. It’s now a one bedroom apartment. There are some drawbacks because I don’t have an outdoor patio or balcony but it’s pretty nice here with 4 swimming pools and spacious courtyards. So yeah…use the existing structures instead of plowing over our nature areas. That’s a big win for humans and animals. Next up…put solar farms above parking lots!
I miss the experience I was used to at the Mall. We still have them but so many shops are closed and foot traffic is low. The pandemic started the online shopping, which was coming anyway. Good to see it’s being revived in a different way. The younger generation shop online more and doesn’t hang in malls, they like restaurants, exercise places, and they are far too busy to just walk around and shop, or so it seems.
The pandemic didn't start anything. Malls were going downhill from 1990 because of online shopping. 50% of malls were closing, then 80% in the 2000s. In 2015 until 2019, it was 200% a year.
I've seen everything from shopping malls to defunct hospitals, old businesses, fast food franchises, old barns and old churches turned into living spaces. A friend of mine in New York bought a property with an old barn and transformed it into his home. The bottom is completely open concept with the central feature being a circular 4 hearth fieldstone fireplace. Fieldstone doesn't handle heat very well so of course, it has firebrick with the fieldstone outside. The upper section has literally turned the hayloft space into loft bedrooms. It has all the modern touches but he left the old timbers exposed. It actually turned out to be quite beautiful.
This is a win-win for low income housing and businesses. I've been so interested in this, I didn't know that it was becoming a thing. Here in Southern California homeless is heartbreaking. All of these abandoned Malls, they are all over. Thank you both for drawing attention to this. Love you New Zealand Family 😊❤️
Arizona lost a fairly historic mall a few years ago. The plans for it are to be turned into a multi-use facility. Residential, shopping, medical and transit. The apartments are likely going to be a minimum $2,000/month. That’s nowhere close to low income. Especially when the income requirements are 2-3 times the monthly rent.
Malls are still Popular in America. Only the old Malls are being done like in this video. And most people don't go to Vermont. Malls that do well is Outlet Malls where you can walk outside from store to store. They have food courts and Movie Theatres there and restaurants in the parking lot like Texas Roadhouse or Apple Bees. I travel and every city I go to theres a Huge thriving Mall. They are still popular, trust me.
Absolutely love that you did this. as a Rhode Island native i thank you.i remember this mall which I believe is the first mall in America(don't quote me) also know as the arcade.when I was a kid this place was soo amazing!
The first indoor mall in the US. Such a beautiful building. Greetings from Westerly, RI! I'm 64 years old and still never been to the Arcade. I'll have to pack a lunch one day to make the drive there. lol (RI inside joke)
Actually, the building in Whittier, Alaska has NEVER been a mall, and still isn’t. It was built to house military back during World War II. The military left Whittier in 1960. The only ‘stores’ in the building are a Post Office and a very basic general store. I visited on a cruise a few years ago. All the ‘stores’ are out in town or thru the tunnel in Anchorage. The video is about actual malls that’ve been turned into living spaces. 😉
There are a few things that I'll miss from the olden times. Lol Chiefly, indoor malls, manual car windows and having phones that you could SLAM down to hang up. There was something so intrinsically satisfying about being able to do that. Lol Pushing a button and hearing a beep from your phone doesn't have the same feel. 😅😅😅😂😂😂
As a cab driver in Albuquerque, New Mexico, 10 years ago I picked a Dad and his 7 yo Son at the airport. As I was dropping them off, I pointed to nice, fully functioning mall accross the street. One minute walk. The father responded, "Ah. We don't shop anymore. We get everything mailed." As a lad, I loved going to the mall with my folks. Missing out on valuable time together Dad. Oh well!
I live in Arizona i have never heard of this seems weird. Why just stop being lazy at shop in person and the mall will be fine and not close. Plus malls are popular with everyone but millennials. New generation in their 20’s love them. My kids have to shop local if possible not ship products. I don’t want my kids to ruin their own community. Plus how do you keep those places clean when you have people always walking around. 🤷🏻♀️
JC Penney was a place every American knew well into the 90's. It used to be a very popular store to buy clothes, toys and all sorts of things. It had a long history in America as a retailer, similar to Sears or Montgomery Ward.
I actually saw this video about a week ago and as someone who hasn't been in a mall for well over 10 years I too was completely shocked that this was actually happening. Also in the US, malls do not tend to be in the cities which is why you had to drive so far to get to one. Once you get to the suburbs though, they are much more local and centrally located.
Shop owners, etc have lived in the back or above their stores in some places in the US throughout US history, even back in the days of the old west the doctor or owner of a shop like a hardware store or library or mercantile would live in the loft or back of the shop.
I saw a study that claimed alot of successful malls in the USA had one store in common. THE Cheesecake Factory! It has worked out that way in southwest Ohio in the suburbs of Cincinnati. We have many older and newer malls that just fell on hard times. Empty store fronts led to them being shut down. But, if there is a Cheesecake Factory present, life is good.
As a Civil Engineer in the Washington D.C. area we are seeing a lot of redevelopment projects for mixed use, office, residential, entertainment spaces all together. One of the projects here in Virginia is the abandoned Landmark Mall. Landmark Mall is where they shot the mall scenes for Wonder Woman 1984. Now it's being torn down to create a mixed use development.
We need to embrace tiny homes or tiny living in America to help so many people out with have a place to live. 😢 To many community have hoa and over priced home that keep some people from live and homeless from going away.
Absolutely! They are always clearcutting wooded spaces to build huge overpriced homes almost no one can afford, when so many people just need a safe, clean place to call home. We definitely need to rethink the way we do housing.
There's a thing here called "NIMBY"-Not In My Back Yard. There's also the value difference in selling 100 half-acre lots for private housing or selling 50 acres to one buyer (apartments or malls). Between people wanting to make as much money as possible as quickly as possible, and those who don't want noisy malls with high traffic on their roads, the malls often have to locate farther away from population centers.
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This can only be done in a few Malls, a lot of the older Mall buildings have asbestos insulation and it just cost an insane amount of money to have that removed. And that is before you can even start any of your new project.
This is very interesting. I've been "small town living" since 2008, when I moved from Houston, TX to Durango, CO. This seems like a very sustainable solution for all the vacant commercial space in big cities (or any city). I would rent out a place like that if I lived in a city; but I'm too used to the slow life in these Rocky Mountain Small Towns. Love you guys, keep going STRONG!!!❤
As an Old Cab Driver in Los Angeles Ca. When you were saying our malls were so far out of town, I wondered Which malls you guys visited when you were here. And I would just like to add that sometimes what is considered the Quickest Route, Is NOT the Most Direct route. Sometimes the Freeways are considered to be the Quickest Route, But If you're In a Paying Vehicle for that ride the Cost on the Quickest Route would Be MORE because the Quickest route just had you circle the entire Town on that Freeway you took. But if you took the Most Direct route, It will always be Cheaper because of the Mileage involved. So, my advice is Cut through town.
Haven't done reactions in a long time? Your whole trip in the US was one huge, marvelous, wonderful reaction! I get what you mean though so now I'll settle back and look forward to the old school reaction. Lol I'm glad to see Atlanta's Kitchen up and running again! I'm sure we're all looking forward to her next upload.
The one detractor is the huge push for "15 minute" cities, that is the worst thing that could possibly happen, you should do a search for 15 minute cities, it will blow your mind ;)
I was thinking the same. These little five-minute towns in malls are definitely the stepping stone to 15 minute cities. It’s amazing how things get sugar-coated to sound like this perfect solution and people so easily fall for it, yet in the long run it will have a negative ending.
@ct6852 The negatives of 15-minute cities are plentiful, "constant monitoring" and "absolute control" comes to mind. If people are asleep at the wheel, the idea of the 15 minute city could become a dystopian nightmare for next generations. The main aim is to delete private vehicles and, therefore, travel (without higher powers consent). Once you delete travel (or minimize it) you can control other things like... food. Think of the plandemic lockdown with 24hr monitoring and no way of being able to give the restrictions the big middle finger.
Love this idea and overall concept. I know of one major mall in the Portland OR area that should consider conforming to this concept idea, the 3 story Lloyd Center Mall that's about 80%-90% now vacant and abandoned. The remaining 10%-20% of stores are all located near the center of the mall surrounded by the indoor ice skating rink and I think the third floor might still have a movie theater surrounded by several food joints. I could easily see and picture the second and third floors being converted to mini-apartments for seniors, local college students, minimalists life-stylers who like the idea of going tiny and can adapt, and a lot of veterans, like myself, who have experience living in military barracks or small apartments would adapt easily. It could even be a good place for certain homeless individuals going through a program to get off the streets and start over in a tiny apartment surrounded hopefully by good neighbors who watch out for each other in a big isolated mall with a few constant security patrols. Then the bottom floors could be turned into specific businesses the apartment renters need, like a micro-community all within a mall, such as Starbucks Cafe's, a grocery store of some kind, little boutiques, community gaming, community VR gaming, nail spas, massage spas, laundry mats if the apartments don't have washer/dryer's, community art and wine classes, yoga classes, martial arts class, a mini-YMCA for working out, all within a mall so no one has to go outside if they don't want too! A lot of places here in the Northwest, especially here in Washington state like Seattle and Vancouver, are creating a lot of Waterfront community's where multi-level buildings are being built with beautiful scenery and all the main floors are a variety of small businesses while all the other floors are either apartments or hotels creating micro-communities for both local residents and travelers. So, similar to this mall concept but more outdoors.
We love everything that you do. Hope one day to get to come to Rhode Island. Our state may be the smallest state, but it is beautiful! Newport Is legendary for the Ocean Drive which is about 10 miles long and you can see Jay Leno’s Mansion and Judge Judy’s mansion along the drive. You can visit all of the very rich and famous Mansions on Belview Avenue and The tennis Hall of Fame is also on Belview Avenue. So much to see.
RI, the birthplace of the American Industrial Revolution; the State capital has the 2nd largest unsupported dome in the world; so many other great and historic communities throughout the State; the world's biggest termite (Nibbles Woodaway) haha!; lots of great, fresh seafood, and plenty of good Italian food for Sam! Everything within a reasonable driving distance.
In the 80's they opened Horton Plaza Shopping Center in downtown San Diego, it was the largest Inner-City Mall in America, It's been closed several years and they are converting, they should be opening it soon, it will be a Multi-Complex also.😅✌️Peace ☮️ Gary San Diego, Good Luck on your Reaction's 🙏
Abandoned malls are also remodeled into office parks, and here in Tampa, FL. there are 3 old malls that have done this. Many malls were built in areas that they shouldn't have built, because there were already established malls nearby, and this caused these newer malls to fail. An example of this was the Arcade in Providence, RI. because it's relatively close to the Emerald Square mall in North Attelboro, MA. and this one is still open, and doing well.
I went to The Arcade in the 1990s and haven't been there in years. The Arcade got overshadowed by the modern Providence Place Mall a few blocks away. The Arcade was always troubled and almost almost closed several times. The Arcade is surrounded by office buildings which are now mostly empty so it lost most of its foot traffic. The Arcade also had limited parking compared to Providence Place. You should give RI a visit next time you make it to the states.
Nowadays, the Providence Place Mall is struggling with occupancy. And, yes, I agree they should check out RI on their next visit. It would make a great base from which to check out parts of Massachusetts (Boston) to Connecticut, as well as RI itself. There's so much history in RI that outsiders of the state tend to be unaware of.
@@christopherturco197 I don't like going their either and try to avoid going there. The only store that doesn't look empty 90% of the time is the Apple Store.
This has been a novelty for a while. Large retailers like Bass Pro Shops have hotels built into some of their larger stores, so you can rent a room in the store.
Flat Irons is on the West side of Denver. The whole area is kind of cool, more suburban and truly does fill a need for housing. If they can balance cost with using the space, it will be an excellent solution. There's a handful of malls in New York City. We used to do my back to school shopping in Manhattan because there was no tax on clothing.
That was a beautiful mall in the video. And it would be nice to be able to just go down to the food court for dinner when you don't feel like making dinner, lol. I LOVE the idea of using the structures we already have for multiple purposes, to help solve both the commercial vacancy and affordable housing shortage problems at the same time! I see all the trees being cut down for pricey yet tacky suburban housing developments, while lovely older homes just needing TLC sit vacant, and it makes me sad.
My sister lived by one of the Malls in Nashville. It closed down probably 20, 25 years ago now. They eventually tore it down and in its place built like a miniature town. It's really cool actually. It's funny, if you pull up this location on Google Earth, the old mall is still there, rendered in 3D, but if you pull it up on Google Maps, it shows the entire new construction. Basically what they did was make the right side of the old property a big strip mall facing inward. Then in the middle is a huge parking lot. On the left side is where this miniature town is, which is anchored by an AMC Theater complex. And then all along the backside is a bunch of apartment buildings that also house other businesses including a fitness area. I wish this was modeled on the Google Earth so I could see exactly what's all there, but it's definitely a clever way of reusing the massing property that a mall and its parking lots took up for something else. We went and saw The Last Jedi at that theater when it had just recently opened.
Not all malls are outside the city. There are many cities that have malls in the city. San Diego has a really nice mall right in the middle of downtown.
They just demolished the mall I grew up going to in the 80's & 90's, only 5-6 miles from my house last month. I thought it was pretty cool to hang out where a bunch of the movie "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" was filmed. They're turning it into retail space, apartments, senior housing, and health-care facilities. They just added a light rail station there as well.
The mall nearest me is being re-purposed for mixed-use , unlike Providence they are tearing down the majority of the mall and putting up apartments, condos, and some retail and professional space. The 2 anchors remaining, Pennys and Macys will stay in the current buildings. All in all this is a ten year project but will definitely revitalize the area.
Rhode Island, and Providence specifically, was one of the first places in the country to make preserving historic buildings a priority rather than tearing them all down to make way for new, modern buildings. That's one of the things that makes Providence such a unique city. Being the oldest indoor mall in the nation, the Arcade was a prime candidate for this type of preservation and revitalization.
I thought living at the Mall would be a Great Idea! The apartments are NOT inside any shops. They are built into their own spaces. Usually on the Upper Floors of the Mall. How close would it be to go shopping and have a place to eat. Very Convenient if you ask me.
The problem with the US is that we inundated areas with Malls to the point of oversaturation and not enough people wanted to go to them with the advent of online shopping. I actually miss the times of going to the mall at Christmas time and shopping for gifts with the family.
Yeah, malls have changed. The closest mall to where I live (Richland Mall in Ontario, OH) is now mostly occupied by the same health care provider company that also owns the hospital six blocks from my house. They've got a walk-in clinic over there, and a pharmacy where Sears used to be, several doctors' offices, and I don't even know what they're doing in the space that used to be Lazarus, but it's health-care related somehow. Converting it into housing wouldn't have been as practical around here, as the demands is not as high. (After the 2008 subprime-mortgage CDO crash, this area had a large surplus of housing on the market that prevented housing prices from increasing at all until circa 2022. That's over now, but the amount of housing on the market is still adequate to meet demand. Some of the realtors have been making a killing selling houses for double or triple what they're worth to people moving into the area from out of state, who think they're getting a good deal; but we're far enough off the beaten track that the numbers are limited, and so locals are still able to shop around and find something in a more reasonable price range, at least for now. I expect Columbus residents, an hour south of here, are likely not so fortunate in that regard, but their housing prices were always higher than ours, because, big city.) JC Penny was *theoretically* a traditional department store, competing with Sears; but for decades (most of my lifetime) they have been principally known as a clothing retailer, their other departments having fallen into obscurity. They still get some business, from people who like to be able to try clothes on before buying them to ensure a proper fit, which makes online shopping impractical; but they also face competition from discount department stores (originally K-Mart, but then also Wal-Mart and Value City, and now Target and Meijer and so on), as well as discount clothing retailers (e.g., T.J. Maxx), so yeah, they're struggling.
I’m from N.Y.,but I live near The Meadowlands N.J. So I am near the American Dream mall and Paramus mall,both are very busy.You can ski at American Dream mall.Lindsay Vonn did the Gold Medal winner of downhill skiing.
I few years ago our local mall was bought out by a new company and they got additional funding from the city to revamp the mall. A few hours away there is a nice mall that last I saw it it was like 75% empty and that was over 10 years ago. While our mall does have a few empty stores in it our down town is what the city is constantly trying to get going but its mostly bars and antique stores down town. Most of the vacant buildings are old as hell and while cool looking and historic, they are not up to code and the cost of renovating them and bring them up to code while also dealing with historic restrictions on some of them makes it too much for most people to want to deal with for a small store.
Listing on Airbnb takes long-term rentals off the market. There are millions of listings on Airbnb and other sites that sit empty most of the time while people can't find long-term housing.
One mall in my area usually seems to have just as many employees as customers in it. I can see this happening to that mall. On the other hand, another mall in a different area seems to be thriving. Stores are still moving into there.
Seems a bit controlling And programed … installing the 15 minute villages. I hope I am wrong .children running around, seems hard to relax. Maybe I just need to observe more. This could actually be a wonderful thing, just wish decisions more in the hands of the renter. This would make some excellent senior housing.
I'm not surprised by other Americans' comments. The opinion of housing and where it's going is coming from developers and others banking on the idea. And I'm personally very doubtful of it. There are thousands and thousands of abandoned home projects in some areas of the US. The housing needs seem to be very overstated by the developers, and the alternatives of moving instead of building is very real.
I enjoyed going to the mall when I was a teenager. I don't see myself living in a mall, but it would be great for people living in a city. As long as the cost is reasonable 😊
I love this, America has had a really weird set up and zoning. Cities are planned with residential and commercial zoned separately. I would love to see this catch fire and zoning laws loosened. I love the idea of being able to live in a convenience of it. Malls are dying and we have a housing issue ... perfect solution. Brings people to the Malls.
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I am honestly quite puzzled about your mall experience in Texas. Next time you come to Houston, if you want, I can give you a crazy tour of the mall and shopping center situation in Houston. Right where I live is Memorial City. It's an entire district of Houston that is essentially mostly a gigantic mall that's about a mile wide and two and a half miles long. It's not technically one huge mall structure, but it's all owned by the same company, and it's just almost two and a half miles of unbroken retail empire, including Memorial City Mall itself, which is I think the second largest and second fanciest mall in Houston? And the whole situation here is only going to expand even more. They've essentially already got another entire shopping center that they are about to break ground on next month adding 15 more stores directly across the street from the mall, and then they've got another huge project to build basically an entire new mall at one of the ends of the Memorial City district, which is going to include huge residential towers. And then Memorial City is just like maybe 5 mi down the freeway from the Marq*E Entertainment Center, which is sort of a....I honestly don't know how to describe this.... I would have described it as a mall in the past, and then they ripped half of it off and turned it into more of an open shopping center.... Another getting ready to renovate it into a very fancy shopping center, and it's sort of designed with a huge gigantic movie theater as the centerpiece at one end, and a giant arcade at the other end. And then like 5 mi away from that is the Galleria, which is the biggest fanciest mall in Houston, a several stories tall, labyrinthian construct. And the Galleria is like maybe a mile down the road from The Highland Village Shopping Center, which is essentially a open-air outdoor mall, high-end, fancy expensive stuff. Our local old abandoned mall is like 2 miles from the Marq*E. And it's basically abandoned because there were too many nice malls in the area and it couldn't compete. I really feel like Houston is mostly just and never-ending string of malls. Lol Oh and then like several miles away from the Memorial City District is the ACTUAL largest mall in Houston. Katy Mills. It's gargantuan. I always forget about it cuz it's a little bit outside of things. The shopping center situation near me is almost unfathomable. It's just almost endless shopping centers for miles. When one stops, you cross the street, and another one starts.
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Mall walking and food court meals are long lost. It's a shame because there was such a vibe about spending your Saturday, wandering around the mall, going shop to shop and having lunch/dinner in the food court. Maybe catching a movie while you were there. It was an all day event that kids nowadays will never get to experience.
Friday nights when I was a kid. We lived near a mall so we could walk sometimes.
Fayette Mall in Lexington KY is still booming for whatever reason.
I grew up with malls. I get the nostalgia but I didn't like planning my day to go to one. We'd have to deal with traffic, parking, waiting in lines, being in a theater with strangers kicking my seat, possibly sick, phones going off in theaters, among other things. Food courts tended to have questionable food safety practices, and their food were pretty fast food like.
They did this to a closed mall near where I grew up in Western New York. They turned it into a assisted living facility with senior citizens apartments. There are a few stores that they brought back, such as a mid size grocery store, etc,,, which is very convenient for the senior residents.
As a senior citizen, I would jump at the idea if the rent was reasonable. And if they would allow me to have my little dog. Here in Cincinnati, we have 2 ¹/² large malls that are closed or partially closed.
I think this is genius. So many malls are abandoned. This solves 2 problems, at once.
very good idea
It has never been abandoned... Its the first mall in the United States and Has Always been open...
@@RamboWasntCrazy they didnt say this one was, just that there are a lot of abandoned malls. l2comprehend
Or liberals could just get a job… I can’t believe people are living in malls. Might be a mall now, soon to be a project….
There's a place pretty close by to me that has renovated an old brick warehouse into apartments and it is really neat!
I love this Mall plan. I hope it succeeds because the empty malls make the town look abandoned.
Some of these new projects have a bank branch,post office and drug store along with a dry cleaners, laundromat, hair salon and a minimart for groceries. It makes it very convenient.
Miss the old shopping malls
we used to hang out in when we were kids. They had everything under roof.
What a great idea! The price of rent and then some Malls are going out of business. This would make excellent use of any space!
I’m an American living in Montreal and I live above an underground mall! It’s an incredible experience
Underground malls are so cool! There is one in Toronto too! I went there as a teenager. I loved Toronto. I would love to visit Montreal someday soon.
You guys were just in Portland Oregon, and they are turning the Lloyd Center Mall into multi-use housing upstairs with the mall and movie theater downstairs.
This is interesting and really cool because we have the existing structures and areas that can be used instead of bulldozing forests and nature areas. Another thing that developers are doing is converting old hotels and resorts into apartments. I live in an apartment that was once two hotel rooms. It’s now a one bedroom apartment. There are some drawbacks because I don’t have an outdoor patio or balcony but it’s pretty nice here with 4 swimming pools and spacious courtyards. So yeah…use the existing structures instead of plowing over our nature areas. That’s a big win for humans and animals. Next up…put solar farms above parking lots!
I miss the experience I was used to at the Mall. We still have them but so many shops are closed and foot traffic is low. The pandemic started the online shopping, which was coming anyway. Good to see it’s being revived in a different way. The younger generation shop online more and doesn’t hang in malls, they like restaurants, exercise places, and they are far too busy to just walk around and shop, or so it seems.
Malls were dying long before the pandemic happened.
The pandemic didn't start anything. Malls were going downhill from 1990 because of online shopping. 50% of malls were closing, then 80% in the 2000s. In 2015 until 2019, it was 200% a year.
I've seen everything from shopping malls to defunct hospitals, old businesses, fast food franchises, old barns and old churches turned into living spaces. A friend of mine in New York bought a property with an old barn and transformed it into his home. The bottom is completely open concept with the central feature being a circular 4 hearth fieldstone fireplace. Fieldstone doesn't handle heat very well so of course, it has firebrick with the fieldstone outside. The upper section has literally turned the hayloft space into loft bedrooms. It has all the modern touches but he left the old timbers exposed. It actually turned out to be quite beautiful.
This is a win-win for low income housing and businesses. I've been so interested in this, I didn't know that it was becoming a thing.
Here in Southern California homeless is heartbreaking. All of these abandoned Malls, they are all over.
Thank you both for drawing attention to this.
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😂😂😂 it will never be low income housing.
Arizona lost a fairly historic mall a few years ago. The plans for it are to be turned into a multi-use facility. Residential, shopping, medical and transit. The apartments are likely going to be a minimum $2,000/month. That’s nowhere close to low income. Especially when the income requirements are 2-3 times the monthly rent.
Malls are still Popular in America. Only the old Malls are being done like in this video. And most people don't go to Vermont. Malls that do well is Outlet Malls where you can walk outside from store to store. They have food courts and Movie Theatres there and restaurants in the parking lot like Texas Roadhouse or Apple Bees. I travel and every city I go to theres a Huge thriving Mall. They are still popular, trust me.
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Yes, we did that. Go back to our earlier videos. We did that alot.
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Absolutely love that you did this. as a Rhode Island native i thank you.i remember this mall which I believe is the first mall in America(don't quote me) also know as the arcade.when I was a kid this place was soo amazing!
The first indoor mall in the US. Such a beautiful building. Greetings from Westerly, RI! I'm 64 years old and still never been to the Arcade. I'll have to pack a lunch one day to make the drive there. lol (RI inside joke)
They already have places like this. An entire town in alaska lives in a single building. Even have schools in the building
Actually, the building in Whittier, Alaska has NEVER been a mall, and still isn’t. It was built to house military back during World War II. The military left Whittier in 1960. The only ‘stores’ in the building are a Post Office and a very basic general store. I visited on a cruise a few years ago. All the ‘stores’ are out in town or thru the tunnel in Anchorage. The video is about actual malls that’ve been turned into living spaces. 😉
@joleighva I never said it was a mall. Just that they have whole communities inside of one building that you don't need to leave
@joleighva who cares what the building was before? Doesn't mean anything.
I just saw this "Living In Malls" video 2 days ago.
There are a few things that I'll miss from the olden times. Lol Chiefly, indoor malls, manual car windows and having phones that you could SLAM down to hang up. There was something so intrinsically satisfying about being able to do that. Lol Pushing a button and hearing a beep from your phone doesn't have the same feel. 😅😅😅😂😂😂
Couldn't agree more about the phone and slamming down the receiver, also throwing the old phones at your sister gained better results 😂
As a cab driver in Albuquerque, New Mexico, 10 years ago I picked a Dad and his 7 yo Son at the airport.
As I was dropping them off, I pointed to nice, fully functioning mall accross the street.
One minute walk.
The father responded, "Ah. We don't shop anymore. We get everything mailed."
As a lad, I loved going to the mall with my folks.
Missing out on valuable time together Dad. Oh well!
Every 80s teen's dream.
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Let’s be real, every 80s teen would have been happy just to sleep in a sleeping bag behind the counter at Sbarro 😂
We have a failing mall in Tucson being renovated to have apartments. 1st floor will have shops and the floors above for living.
Which one is it? Is Tucson Mall? Foothills Mall?
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I live in Arizona i have never heard of this seems weird. Why just stop being lazy at shop in person and the mall will be fine and not close. Plus malls are popular with everyone but millennials. New generation in their 20’s love them. My kids have to shop local if possible not ship products. I don’t want my kids to ruin their own community. Plus how do you keep those places clean when you have people always walking around. 🤷🏻♀️
JC Penney was a place every American knew well into the 90's. It used to be a very popular store to buy clothes, toys and all sorts of things. It had a long history in America as a retailer, similar to Sears or Montgomery Ward.
As an American i was surprised by this too.
Same. Imagine doing anything in this country that actually makes sense? 😮
I actually saw this video about a week ago and as someone who hasn't been in a mall for well over 10 years I too was completely shocked that this was actually happening. Also in the US, malls do not tend to be in the cities which is why you had to drive so far to get to one. Once you get to the suburbs though, they are much more local and centrally located.
In the smaller towns the malls are much closer. There's no room for a mall in a big city.
Shop owners, etc have lived in the back or above their stores in some places in the US throughout US history, even back in the days of the old west the doctor or owner of a shop like a hardware store or library or mercantile would live in the loft or back of the shop.
I saw a study that claimed alot of successful malls in the USA had one store in common. THE Cheesecake Factory! It has worked out that way in southwest Ohio in the suburbs of Cincinnati. We have many older and newer malls that just fell on hard times. Empty store fronts led to them being shut down. But, if there is a Cheesecake Factory present, life is good.
As a Civil Engineer in the Washington D.C. area we are seeing a lot of redevelopment projects for mixed use, office, residential, entertainment spaces all together. One of the projects here in Virginia is the abandoned Landmark Mall. Landmark Mall is where they shot the mall scenes for Wonder Woman 1984. Now it's being torn down to create a mixed use development.
We need to embrace tiny homes or tiny living in America to help so many people out with have a place to live. 😢 To many community have hoa and over priced home that keep some people from live and homeless from going away.
Absolutely! They are always clearcutting wooded spaces to build huge overpriced homes almost no one can afford, when so many people just need a safe, clean place to call home. We definitely need to rethink the way we do housing.
There's a thing here called "NIMBY"-Not In My Back Yard. There's also the value difference in selling 100 half-acre lots for private housing or selling 50 acres to one buyer (apartments or malls). Between people wanting to make as much money as possible as quickly as possible, and those who don't want noisy malls with high traffic on their roads, the malls often have to locate farther away from population centers.
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This can only be done in a few Malls, a lot of the older Mall buildings have asbestos insulation and it just cost an insane amount of money to have that removed. And that is before you can even start any of your new project.
This is very interesting. I've been "small town living" since 2008, when I moved from Houston, TX to Durango, CO. This seems like a very sustainable solution for all the vacant commercial space in big cities (or any city). I would rent out a place like that if I lived in a city; but I'm too used to the slow life in these Rocky Mountain Small Towns.
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As an American had no clue, this was even a thing
I'd like to have a small Post Office, convenience store and laundromat included in these projects. Great for singles and seniors.
As an Old Cab Driver in Los Angeles Ca. When you were saying our malls were so far out of town, I wondered Which malls you guys visited when you were here. And I would just like to add that sometimes what is considered the Quickest Route, Is NOT the Most Direct route. Sometimes the Freeways are considered to be the Quickest Route, But If you're In a Paying Vehicle for that ride the Cost on the Quickest Route would Be MORE because the Quickest route just had you circle the entire Town on that Freeway you took. But if you took the Most Direct route, It will always be Cheaper because of the Mileage involved. So, my advice is Cut through town.
I'd hate living in such cramped quarters. Love looking out my window and seeing trees and green fields.
Haven't done reactions in a long time? Your whole trip in the US was one huge, marvelous, wonderful reaction! I get what you mean though so now I'll settle back and look forward to the old school reaction. Lol
I'm glad to see Atlanta's Kitchen up and running again! I'm sure we're all looking forward to her next upload.
This inspires me. Your humble sharing of knowledge is appreciated.
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The one detractor is the huge push for "15 minute" cities, that is the worst thing that could possibly happen, you should do a search for 15 minute cities, it will blow your mind ;)
I was thinking the same. These little five-minute towns in malls are definitely the stepping stone to 15 minute cities. It’s amazing how things get sugar-coated to sound like this perfect solution and people so easily fall for it, yet in the long run it will have a negative ending.
@@andreaelliott728 What is the negative?
Yes , to crowed and hard to keep clean.
I was hoping somebody was going to mention 15 minute cities.
While this idea is great for some... it is far from ideal to most.
@ct6852 The negatives of 15-minute cities are plentiful, "constant monitoring" and "absolute control" comes to mind. If people are asleep at the wheel, the idea of the 15 minute city could become a dystopian nightmare for next generations. The main aim is to delete private vehicles and, therefore, travel (without higher powers consent). Once you delete travel (or minimize it) you can control other things like... food.
Think of the plandemic lockdown with 24hr monitoring and no way of being able to give the restrictions the big middle finger.
I think I'd enjoy living in a setting like hers. I'd just need a bit more than 250 sq. feet though.
Reactions are always good!
We do still have malls like the Mall of America but overall, that culture is long gone.
It`s basically assisted living at a much younger age.
You're going to hit a half million subscribers this week! That's gotta be a massive number under the metric system.
Love this idea and overall concept. I know of one major mall in the Portland OR area that should consider conforming to this concept idea, the 3 story Lloyd Center Mall that's about 80%-90% now vacant and abandoned. The remaining 10%-20% of stores are all located near the center of the mall surrounded by the indoor ice skating rink and I think the third floor might still have a movie theater surrounded by several food joints. I could easily see and picture the second and third floors being converted to mini-apartments for seniors, local college students, minimalists life-stylers who like the idea of going tiny and can adapt, and a lot of veterans, like myself, who have experience living in military barracks or small apartments would adapt easily. It could even be a good place for certain homeless individuals going through a program to get off the streets and start over in a tiny apartment surrounded hopefully by good neighbors who watch out for each other in a big isolated mall with a few constant security patrols. Then the bottom floors could be turned into specific businesses the apartment renters need, like a micro-community all within a mall, such as Starbucks Cafe's, a grocery store of some kind, little boutiques, community gaming, community VR gaming, nail spas, massage spas, laundry mats if the apartments don't have washer/dryer's, community art and wine classes, yoga classes, martial arts class, a mini-YMCA for working out, all within a mall so no one has to go outside if they don't want too! A lot of places here in the Northwest, especially here in Washington state like Seattle and Vancouver, are creating a lot of Waterfront community's where multi-level buildings are being built with beautiful scenery and all the main floors are a variety of small businesses while all the other floors are either apartments or hotels creating micro-communities for both local residents and travelers. So, similar to this mall concept but more outdoors.
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Hope one day to get to come to Rhode Island. Our state may be the smallest state, but it is beautiful! Newport Is legendary for the Ocean Drive which is about 10 miles long and you can see Jay Leno’s Mansion and Judge Judy’s mansion along the drive. You can visit all of the very rich and famous Mansions on Belview Avenue and The tennis Hall of Fame is also on Belview Avenue.
So much to see.
RI, the birthplace of the American Industrial Revolution; the State capital has the 2nd largest unsupported dome in the world; so many other great and historic communities throughout the State; the world's biggest termite (Nibbles Woodaway) haha!; lots of great, fresh seafood, and plenty of good Italian food for Sam! Everything within a reasonable driving distance.
What a beautiful message. Your humility in sharing this is appreciated.
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There is a mall near me that is pretty empty. Part of it has medical offices.
We just visited New Jersey and wanted to visit the Dream Mall, but it was too far from our hotel. We went to Jersey Gardens Mall, and it was packed.
Costco's definitely are. Especially this time of year.
In the 80's they opened Horton Plaza Shopping Center in downtown San Diego, it was the largest Inner-City Mall in America, It's been closed several years and they are converting, they should be opening it soon, it will be a Multi-Complex also.😅✌️Peace ☮️ Gary San Diego, Good Luck on your Reaction's 🙏
Great to see a reaction video from you! It’s been a while!
Abandoned malls are also remodeled into office parks, and here in Tampa, FL. there are 3 old malls that have done this. Many malls were built in areas that they shouldn't have built, because there were already established malls nearby, and this caused these newer malls to fail. An example of this was the Arcade in Providence, RI. because it's relatively close to the Emerald Square mall in North Attelboro, MA. and this one is still open, and doing well.
I went to The Arcade in the 1990s and haven't been there in years. The Arcade got overshadowed by the modern Providence Place Mall a few blocks away. The Arcade was always troubled and almost almost closed several times. The Arcade is surrounded by office buildings which are now mostly empty so it lost most of its foot traffic. The Arcade also had limited parking compared to Providence Place.
You should give RI a visit next time you make it to the states.
Nowadays, the Providence Place Mall is struggling with occupancy. And, yes, I agree they should check out RI on their next visit. It would make a great base from which to check out parts of Massachusetts (Boston) to Connecticut, as well as RI itself. There's so much history in RI that outsiders of the state tend to be unaware of.
@@christopherturco197 I don't like going their either and try to avoid going there. The only store that doesn't look empty 90% of the time is the Apple Store.
This has been a novelty for a while. Large retailers like Bass Pro Shops have hotels built into some of their larger stores, so you can rent a room in the store.
Nice! I didn't even know this was a thing.
Flat Irons is on the West side of Denver. The whole area is kind of cool, more suburban and truly does fill a need for housing. If they can balance cost with using the space, it will be an excellent solution. There's a handful of malls in New York City. We used to do my back to school shopping in Manhattan because there was no tax on clothing.
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J.C. Penney is one of the oldest retailers in the United States. It has outlasted other large retailers like Service Merchandise and Montgomery Ward.
That was a beautiful mall in the video. And it would be nice to be able to just go down to the food court for dinner when you don't feel like making dinner, lol. I LOVE the idea of using the structures we already have for multiple purposes, to help solve both the commercial vacancy and affordable housing shortage problems at the same time! I see all the trees being cut down for pricey yet tacky suburban housing developments, while lovely older homes just needing TLC sit vacant, and it makes me sad.
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My sister lived by one of the Malls in Nashville. It closed down probably 20, 25 years ago now. They eventually tore it down and in its place built like a miniature town. It's really cool actually. It's funny, if you pull up this location on Google Earth, the old mall is still there, rendered in 3D, but if you pull it up on Google Maps, it shows the entire new construction. Basically what they did was make the right side of the old property a big strip mall facing inward. Then in the middle is a huge parking lot. On the left side is where this miniature town is, which is anchored by an AMC Theater complex. And then all along the backside is a bunch of apartment buildings that also house other businesses including a fitness area. I wish this was modeled on the Google Earth so I could see exactly what's all there, but it's definitely a clever way of reusing the massing property that a mall and its parking lots took up for something else. We went and saw The Last Jedi at that theater when it had just recently opened.
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Not all malls are outside the city. There are many cities that have malls in the city. San Diego has a really nice mall right in the middle of downtown.
SF too. It's not doing too well though.
They just demolished the mall I grew up going to in the 80's & 90's, only 5-6 miles from my house last month. I thought it was pretty cool to hang out where a bunch of the movie "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" was filmed. They're turning it into retail space, apartments, senior housing, and health-care facilities. They just added a light rail station there as well.
It was nice to see you guys mixing things up by doing a reaction video. Thanks.
The mall nearest me is being re-purposed for mixed-use , unlike Providence they are tearing down the majority of the mall and putting up apartments, condos, and some retail and professional space. The 2 anchors remaining, Pennys and Macys will stay in the current buildings. All in all this is a ten year project but will definitely revitalize the area.
Rhode Island, and Providence specifically, was one of the first places in the country to make preserving historic buildings a priority rather than tearing them all down to make way for new, modern buildings. That's one of the things that makes Providence such a unique city. Being the oldest indoor mall in the nation, the Arcade was a prime candidate for this type of preservation and revitalization.
In New England they have converted manufacturing mills into housing some look really nice.
I thought living at the Mall would be a Great Idea! The apartments are NOT inside any shops. They are built into their own spaces. Usually on the Upper Floors of the Mall. How close would it be to go shopping and have a place to eat. Very Convenient if you ask me.
The problem with the US is that we inundated areas with Malls to the point of oversaturation and not enough people wanted to go to them with the advent of online shopping. I actually miss the times of going to the mall at Christmas time and shopping for gifts with the family.
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Yeah, malls have changed. The closest mall to where I live (Richland Mall in Ontario, OH) is now mostly occupied by the same health care provider company that also owns the hospital six blocks from my house. They've got a walk-in clinic over there, and a pharmacy where Sears used to be, several doctors' offices, and I don't even know what they're doing in the space that used to be Lazarus, but it's health-care related somehow. Converting it into housing wouldn't have been as practical around here, as the demands is not as high. (After the 2008 subprime-mortgage CDO crash, this area had a large surplus of housing on the market that prevented housing prices from increasing at all until circa 2022. That's over now, but the amount of housing on the market is still adequate to meet demand. Some of the realtors have been making a killing selling houses for double or triple what they're worth to people moving into the area from out of state, who think they're getting a good deal; but we're far enough off the beaten track that the numbers are limited, and so locals are still able to shop around and find something in a more reasonable price range, at least for now. I expect Columbus residents, an hour south of here, are likely not so fortunate in that regard, but their housing prices were always higher than ours, because, big city.)
JC Penny was *theoretically* a traditional department store, competing with Sears; but for decades (most of my lifetime) they have been principally known as a clothing retailer, their other departments having fallen into obscurity. They still get some business, from people who like to be able to try clothes on before buying them to ensure a proper fit, which makes online shopping impractical; but they also face competition from discount department stores (originally K-Mart, but then also Wal-Mart and Value City, and now Target and Meijer and so on), as well as discount clothing retailers (e.g., T.J. Maxx), so yeah, they're struggling.
Half of our local Mall was just torn down, and new regular apartments were built. Close by shopping!
Brilliant, as we age..it was our dream to live in a mall!!!!!
They recently demolished two malls near me. One is now a Walmart Super center and the other is an Amazon distribution center.
Very cool video. The mall in my town is being turned into one of these mixed use developments.
Fantastic idea. Break it up. Then we are all happy. I love all your videos.
I’m from N.Y.,but I live near The Meadowlands N.J. So I am near the American Dream mall and Paramus mall,both are very busy.You can ski at American Dream mall.Lindsay Vonn did the Gold Medal winner of downhill skiing.
They went to the American Dream mall on their USA trip last year. There's a video of it on this channel.
Ye in my state are malls are popular too. Except for maybe one or two but really old like built in the 50’s.
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That open flame law doesn’t cover electric ranges or hot plates. Weird but workable.
Developers were going to do this to a local mall, but ended up tearing down the entire mall.
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Everyone shops Amazon now
Malls were going downhill long before Amazon
The vacant malls in my city (Atlanta) have been turned into movie studios.
I few years ago our local mall was bought out by a new company and they got additional funding from the city to revamp the mall. A few hours away there is a nice mall that last I saw it it was like 75% empty and that was over 10 years ago. While our mall does have a few empty stores in it our down town is what the city is constantly trying to get going but its mostly bars and antique stores down town. Most of the vacant buildings are old as hell and while cool looking and historic, they are not up to code and the cost of renovating them and bring them up to code while also dealing with historic restrictions on some of them makes it too much for most people to want to deal with for a small store.
Listing on Airbnb takes long-term rentals off the market. There are millions of listings on Airbnb and other sites that sit empty most of the time while people can't find long-term housing.
Great seeing your reaction and talking about what you have in NZ.
Hi Sam and Nadine, can’t wait till you visit the northeast, especially my home state of New Jersey
One mall in my area usually seems to have just as many employees as customers in it. I can see this happening to that mall. On the other hand, another mall in a different area seems to be thriving. Stores are still moving into there.
Seems a bit controlling
And programed … installing the 15 minute villages. I hope I am wrong .children running around, seems hard to relax. Maybe I just need to observe more.
This could actually be a wonderful thing, just wish decisions more in the hands of the renter.
This would make some excellent senior housing.
In Salisbury,NC where I live, they're turning our mall into government offices.
I'm not surprised by other Americans' comments. The opinion of housing and where it's going is coming from developers and others banking on the idea. And I'm personally very doubtful of it. There are thousands and thousands of abandoned home projects in some areas of the US. The housing needs seem to be very overstated by the developers, and the alternatives of moving instead of building is very real.
I enjoyed going to the mall when I was a teenager. I don't see myself living in a mall, but it would be great for people living in a city. As long as the cost is reasonable 😊
I love this, America has had a really weird set up and zoning. Cities are planned with residential and commercial zoned separately. I would love to see this catch fire and zoning laws loosened. I love the idea of being able to live in a convenience of it. Malls are dying and we have a housing issue ... perfect solution. Brings people to the Malls.
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I am honestly quite puzzled about your mall experience in Texas.
Next time you come to Houston, if you want, I can give you a crazy tour of the mall and shopping center situation in Houston.
Right where I live is Memorial City. It's an entire district of Houston that is essentially mostly a gigantic mall that's about a mile wide and two and a half miles long.
It's not technically one huge mall structure, but it's all owned by the same company, and it's just almost two and a half miles of unbroken retail empire, including Memorial City Mall itself, which is I think the second largest and second fanciest mall in Houston?
And the whole situation here is only going to expand even more.
They've essentially already got another entire shopping center that they are about to break ground on next month adding 15 more stores directly across the street from the mall, and then they've got another huge project to build basically an entire new mall at one of the ends of the Memorial City district, which is going to include huge residential towers.
And then Memorial City is just like maybe 5 mi down the freeway from the Marq*E Entertainment Center, which is sort of a....I honestly don't know how to describe this.... I would have described it as a mall in the past, and then they ripped half of it off and turned it into more of an open shopping center.... Another getting ready to renovate it into a very fancy shopping center, and it's sort of designed with a huge gigantic movie theater as the centerpiece at one end, and a giant arcade at the other end.
And then like 5 mi away from that is the Galleria, which is the biggest fanciest mall in Houston, a several stories tall, labyrinthian construct.
And the Galleria is like maybe a mile down the road from The Highland Village Shopping Center, which is essentially a open-air outdoor mall, high-end, fancy expensive stuff.
Our local old abandoned mall is like 2 miles from the Marq*E.
And it's basically abandoned because there were too many nice malls in the area and it couldn't compete.
I really feel like Houston is mostly just and never-ending string of malls.
Lol
Oh and then like several miles away from the Memorial City District is the ACTUAL largest mall in Houston. Katy Mills. It's gargantuan. I always forget about it cuz it's a little bit outside of things.
The shopping center situation near me is almost unfathomable. It's just almost endless shopping centers for miles.
When one stops, you cross the street, and another one starts.
Comparing to traditional rentals, these converted mall apartments are 80% of the traditional price for 20% of the traditional space.