Beyerdynamic TYGR 300 R Review - Best gaming headphones under $200?
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00:00 - Intro
00:40 - Build, Design & Comfort
03:05 - Source Pairing, Drivability & Scaling
03:45 - Sound: Objective
07:07 - Sound: Subjective, Gaming & Comparisons
11:06 - Conclusion
For those wondering about the bass measurement and coupling, I did confirm this with in-ear mics and it matched. You can see the results here: forum.headphones.com/t/beyerdynamic-tygr-300-r-gaming-headphones/16032?u=resolve
Hey, what Programm do you use to set the Frequenzy
The mic actually sounds pretty damn good.
what mic, there is no mic.
@@webdigo the beyerdynamic fox mic that coesm in the bundle? its legit one of the first things he said hahaha
@@Josh_Hutchinsis it the mic that he’s using?
*me thinking of selling these last week:* eh they're ok. Not the most comfortable
*seeing Andrew make a positive video about them:* THEY'RE SO GOOD. SUCH GOOD VALUE. MOST COMFORTABLE CANS I'VE EVER WORN
wow, the mic is actually really good.
I found the highs a bit too agressive
I find the TYGRs a great balance between competitive and fun for gaming and still enjoyable for music.
I agree. I have beyer dt770 250 ohm, dt880 600 ohm, and tygr300r. The tygr300r’s treble is less fatiguing and pin point accurate. The tygr300r also had a bit more bass presence than the dt880. I like to switch it up with the dt880 being more analytical and the tygr300r more fun. I use my 600 ohm dt880’s on my dark voice tube amp.
@@myersdf4000 which is more fun out of dt 770 and tygr ?
how did you find the subbass on tygr 300? asking because i need a pair for movies but there seem to be a sub bass roll off on these
TYGR is better@@brentt8940
Thank you for comparing the TYGR and the DT900 a bit. Was very curious about that.
Thank you. This may be my next acquisition after the Samson SR850. You, DMS and Zeos have made a chorus of articulated praise that make me seriously consider purchase. I need to find a store I can sit down and listen to them in.
One my favorite headphones mostly because they so comfortable for my massive head! The soundstage is super nice too. Watch movies and occasionally music if I feel like lugging around that long cable.
I will say also with time the treble seems to mellow out. When I first got it it was a little bit harsh in some tracks. I really don’t have that problem anymore.
To be honest I love how this video intro... Just straight forward to the point
The 990 PRO, I'm about to play a round BF V and I'm already drooling
Great review! I’m still hoping to see you guys review the EtherCX. Been around for a while, and wondering how it compares to DCA’s Aeon lineup.
Also really hope to see the new Hifiman Edition XS since you guys are also selling it.
Cheers!
Andrew i once swapped in the dt880 600 ohm, sounded great!
can’t wait to see measurements without the foam inside, i was going to try and mod this headphone
Nice vid! I also have this bundle (tygr+fox) here and I have been enjoying them very much! The imaging of this headphone is really good and nice not just fps but also open wolrd games with good sound engine imo!
Also what shock mount are you using for the mic? Have been thinking of looking around for mine as well!
After 8 months are they still your favourite headphones for gaming? I can't really decide between the Tygr and the hd560s. I also play more open world than FPS.
@@Kageyasha88 did u make a decision? i'm trynna decide too lmao
@@SSurfs Hey there. I haven't ordered yet but I plan on getting the Sennheiser HD 560S because they're easier to mod because of the detachable cable.
I've read through Beyerdynamic's warranty conditions and oh boy. They have build in cables and only guarantee you 3 months.
From what I researched and asked both are a good choice soundwise. And both are easy to drive.
But for me I'm going to get the Sennheiser. If I need the isolation I settle with IEMs instead of closed back.
These are my favorite headphones. I was sad not to see them in the gaming headphones collab. How do they compare in sound to the PC38x?
I own both. Both addre very good but I just go to my 38x much more. I live having the mic attached even though I rarely use it and while bass is a little heavy I find it as a overall great headphone for gaming and music. You can't go wrong with either but I just reach for my 38x.
Hey Resolve excellent review as always. Now another headphone to for me to consider.
Off-topic question but I was also wondering since I noticed you mentioned the Sennheiser Momentum 3's in your AKG n700ncm2 review is there going to be a comparison vid between like the M3s, n700m2, Mobius like a battle of the best wireless
Yeah there will be something like that in the future
@@ResolveReviews That's awesome! looking forward to it :)
Would you guys recommend this over Sennheiser HD 58x Jubilee for gaming and general usage?
Also, which one is easier to drive?
I'm soo curious : Why do we control preamp settings when modifing EQ settings via APO? Since I am so noob to audio things so don't understand much about preamplifying, but I've heard that lowering digital volume may cause some signal loss so using analog volume dial is necessary. So I feel kind of bad when lowering preamp to -5db while adjusting EQ setting of my Tygr 300r, like shown on your webpage. So I really want to know the reason why we have to lower our preamp value when adjusting EQ settings... Why can't we just lower our analog volume dial down? Is preamp effects our tonal balance or something? I'm soooo curious about it TvT Please help(Sorry for bad English)
did you ever try the tygr 300r using the mic dac? for me it seems to clear up the muddiness and sound way more balanced overall.
Just a few questions, so it doesn’t seem much like its a noise canceling headphone which is fine, i own a pair of hyperx cloud revolver s and it comes with an extended cord with a mute switch and volume dial on the opposite end where you put the 3mm jack into its like a rectangle piece, it didn’t do anything special but give length,volume,mute switch. Is there anything i could buy to use with my pair of tygr 300 r’s to its full extent or anything of that sort? I play a lot of warzone and cod games in general, hearing footsteps etc is important to me. It doesn’t have to be an extension cable just some device i plug them into along with my motherboard?
Do your eq settings change the staging and imaging capabilities?
Why no impressions against the PC 38X? Really curious to know lol
Should also compare hifiman HE-X4, curious cause they run from $99-$139
Between these and the hd 560s for fps gaming? The 560s should be less fatiguing than the tygr right?
Can we get a 900 Pro X review complete with EQ settings? I boost 3100, 4000, and 9000 a smidge and for gaming I like it that way but I'd love some solid settings for music.
I got the headphone as a stand alone but now kind of wishing I'd gotten the mic bundle along with it.
Get a behringer xm8500 and an um204hd
Their sound is better and they last longer than usb mics as well as being cheaper
The microphone is not that good value wise
Usual for usb mics
how did you connect the tygr300r to do your gaming tests?
Did you ever get the 990 backplate to fit on the tygr?
Tygr or pc38x for both gaming and music?
Hi would you get these or the kg 712pros thanks and would you pair with g6 soundblaster thanks
I had to return the 560s and get the 660s because of my head shape. 560 didn’t deal right. Sucks I wanted to save the $200. I didn’t mind it really because they come with a 4.4 cable and I just got a zen stack for my self for Xmas. I would of looked at these if they were a little better for music.
I do wonder how my original DT 770 80 ohm compares to the 700 Pro X
Probably more detailed haha
@@TheHEADPHONEShow Man as long as it's not worse than the DT1770 lol
@@metal571 What's wrong with the 1770? I preferred it over the much morr impressive 1990, which had some peak and dryness issues that made it rather uncomfortable to listen to without EQ at least. 1770 was fine in that sense, at least with my test playlist.
@@hartyewh1 you gotta compare it to the original 770
@@metal571 Okay, my notes claim that other than a similarly weak soundstage the 1770 was more balanced and better in every other way. I find both to studio monitorish sounding to really enjoy, but if you could mention what issue there is then I'd be happy to know.
I'm wondering for gaming and a lot of music listening it's better this or the.phidelio x2hr
I noticed your pair has the new made in the (Republic of China) pads which might explain any deviations from crinacles measurements as his pair would have most likely had the original made in the (European Union) pads that were of much better quality.
How can you tell the pads apart?
Can you just plug the headphones into the PC or do you have to pay attention to anything?
i bought this by accident. so far sounds good have not gamed with it though. so i dont know how that would be. but the sound is great.
How does it compare to another "gaming" headphone like the pc37x/38x? Or the higher end beyer dt1990?
Better soundstage and imaging than the pc38x in my book.
I love these headphones, but I've always been curious to try EQ on them. What system for EQ do you use on them?
Equalizer APO with the PEACE UI
Thanks.... Wow! I was thinking about this purchase.... But I bought HarmonicDyne Zeus! It's "twice" better
Would this pair well with a Schiit Magni+ amp?
Two years after are there better headphone than those for both competitive fps, and musical/video quality ?
TYGR 300 R + mic or Epos Game One for gaming?
So, I'm a bit stuck. I'm in the market for a new set of headphones after my DT 990 pros packed in, they will primarily be used for music and casual gaming in that order. I liked the 990s but the treble was a bit fatiguing so I needed to EQ them. I'm currently sitting here with the TYGR 300rs on and I like them, but I'm not sure if I prefer them to the 990 pros and to be honest I was wondering if there was anything else in the price bracket you'd recommend? I don't like the 560s, the clamp force was far too tight, the sound was too clinical and 'boring' for me too. The HD 599s sounded almost muddy coming off the highly detailed 990 pros, to give some context as to what I've already tried. Thanks!
I've never heard anyone say the 990 pros were good for music. They had them at a small music store by me so and they let you test display models. Harsh AF. You must be older. I would try the k371 or m40x for under $175. Btw I hate too much bass too. I like bright just not 990 pro bright
@@jcap8391 I'm 22, ended up getting the 900 pro Xs, same bright sound signature but the treble spike is diminished, love them!
@@LaurusHG He just compared them to the 900 pro x in the video 😂. He said they sounded veiled compared to 300r. That's a hard pass for me at least for monitoring. You are saying the opposite of him then? 8:58
@@jcap8391 Oh lol I couldn't remember what the video was about honestly, just came back to respond to your comment.
The 900 pro X's aren't "veiled" so much as the 990s are so bright they make it seem as though they are very detailed. The Tygrs have a far larger soundstage than either though.
The 900s are in my opinion more detailed than the 990s. I've compared the 990s, Tygrs, 880s, HD 560s, HD 599s and the 900s, the 880s are the most neutral, the 990s are the brightest, the Tygrs have the largest sound stage and the 900s are the most detailed. Of the Sennheiser options the 560s are very sterile and boring, the 599s are very bass heavy and a bit muddy, still fun though.
@@LaurusHG Damn you've tried a lot of headphones I've always wanted to try. Are the tygers good for monitoring voiceovers you think?
TYGR 300 or 990 PRO, for gaming 🤔
Do I need an amp for PC play with these?
Would you recommend these over the Dt 990 pro for gaming?
Yes
They do seem to hurt my ears, and I may replace the velour pads for something deeper
I bought the Beyer DT 990 Pros 80 ohm version and planned on just plugging them into my motherboard and playing video games and streaming videos and content. However, I found that some lower sounds, like footsteps, were much harder to pickup and recognize (def not good for gaming) and louder sounds like gunshots and headshot recognitions were piercing in my ears and borderline painful. so I guess I am refunding the 990 pros and picking up these TYGR 300 Rs? I def want something more gaming centered and that doesnt pierce my ears. Is this the right choice?
That piercing quality is a result of the boosted treble on the 990's. The TYGR also has a boosted treble response, but it's not as crazy as the 990's. Definitely going to be more comfortable to use. You could also try the PC38x, which has a much smoother treble presentation compared to both of those units.
I don't care what anyone says none of the Beyerdynamic headphones are good or better than stuff like PC 38x or something like a Corsair hs80 or any of the Razer headsets. Those boost areas where you can hear footsteps better and take less to power. They also boost volume but sacrifice some things like high frequency details and can make tops and at times mids muddy. You will have to spend over $700 imo to get a good overall. I've tried about 28 headphones and headsets. I'm not an expert but I know a bit from my experience with all 28. Most of them were kept and sold after months at a loss of money. I always gave them a chance even if I found major flaws right away
@@jcap8391 the pc38x are ok, but need amp cuz they’re so quiet. I personally think the vr3000 are like the pc38x but in iem form and a little better as well.
@@jcap8391 I had HS80 for a full year. The boominess of the bass (no matter EQ settings) and lower resolution sound quality were not good. I never listened to music with them because they were horrible. This is coming from DT 770 pro 80 ohm. When I switched back to more audiophile grade headsets after my HS80 I was actually excited to listen to music again. I have tried the 560s and it was also great for music but the comfort is not as good as Beyer's. Also the 560S made footsteps sound very far away as the sound stage is a little too wide and open. Imaging was great.
But why did you bought 80Ohm version of the DT 990 Pro? It‘s clear that your sound is quieter bc you need more power to get them louder. Higher Ohm has nothing to do with audio quality.
nice
Don't know why your graph is so different from crin and dms ones
In the bass region
I checked against other new ones and they're all closer to mine, so I asked crin to get a new set in. Could be a slight change.
@@TheHEADPHONEShow Thanks you so much for reply. Made my day.
Imo the previous version is lot better in bass than this
What's the soundstage width and size difference with the 560s and 300r?
My experience is it's a little broader on the Tygr but can seem a lot bigger because the imaging is so good...
@@frederickvondrasek5618 thanks
no resolve icon on the thumbnail?
I forgot.
Hello friend !
What would you suggest for professional mixing , mastering between Hd560s and DT700-900 proΧ ?
AKG K371
@@ResolveReviews this one is for you the top of the top ?
Anything from Lcd's ?
@@ChrisKeyman It's what I'd use as a reference for mixing. Like, for professional mixing, you're probably going to be using speakers if possible, and headphones more as a reference point. So for that, yeah I'd go with the K371.
@@ResolveReviews forgive my insistence but k371 doesn't have the best instrument separation and bass extension without distortion.
And I don't believe that the k371 is the only one best in the world for professionals.
There must be something else .
Focal clear mg?
Lcd - xc or X ?
Arya maybe?
Aeon 2 closed ?
Thank you so much.
You will help me a lot really
@@ResolveReviews I like and I need to use headphones more than monitors.
Thank again.
I appreciate that you response 🙏
I don't even have one headphone in my collection that doesn't have a removable cable. Why is this still a thing?
Good, cuz I got the dt 900 pro x and I mean. They’re ok for music production, but for gaming it’s like they’re too…. Metallic sounding. Maybe a little too neutral idk, just not all the way there for me
Is it worth getting for gaming if I already own the DT 770?
Honestly I don't think so.
Would this be able to get high audio volume connected to a motherboard with a Realtek ALC897?
Nope. Not loud enough with good enough dynamics because my ALC1220 has issues driving mine.
I had this headphones. I bought them out of curiosity. I wanted to find out why there is fuss around them in community. Also I bought them becouse I was waiting for another pair of beyers to be repaired. I thought I can sell them after a while. But I kept them - they have interesting sound. Lately I thought I will sell them becouse I agree with Andrew this is not good sounding pair for music in stock form. But I started to to test my ideas about equalization on them. Wow this was unexpected. They turned into the one of the best sounding headphones for me. Yes, they are warm but in very natural way and they kept the clarity. The sound can be easly adjusted to more specific effects but I seatled on the middle ground of maximum satisfaction from the music. It's impossible to describe how good they are now, and many will disbelieve until they hear that sound. I am wondering am I share my method with others or if I keep it to myself as little secret. :)
I dunno if he's quite saying that they're not good for music in stock form, just that adjustments can be made to suit his individual taste better (and reflect more of what he thinks makes sense). But then there's other youtube reviewers who don't seem to feel the need per se, like DMS, Z Reviews, etc.
What’s your secret?
Which frequency did you eq?
hello everybody...bought these couple of months ago for gaming and...I find them too quiet!
Can anybody answer me is this true or? Am I trippin...
I have many headphones (takstar 82, shp 9500, hyper x alpha s, superlux..for gaming) and I do not enjoy these as I've hoped I would..
too damn quiet.
I understand open/closed etc...I have no problem running all of them on front port of the case...but don't know..
are they?
560s vs TYGR300r??
From the Beyer site: "How does the TYGR 300 R differ from the DT 880 PRO and DT 990 PRO?
The DT 880 PRO has a very linear frequency response, while the DT 990 PRO has a slightly more accentuated bass and accordingly more present trebles for a pleasant balance. Both are primarily designed for studio applications. The TYGR 300 R focuses on gaming and is based on the frequency response of the DT 990 PRO. A powerful bass and detailed accentuated treble go very well with gaming. However, the sound design of the DT 990 PRO has been further optimized for gaming, sometimes through the use of a special acoustic fleece."
What is the difference between TYGR 300 R and MMX 300?
The MMX 300 and the TYGR 300 R both have a system with 32 ohms impedance. However, the TYGR 300 R has an open design which results in a better three-dimensionality of sound and a higher wearing comfort due to less heat generation. The slightly lower contact pressure also contributes to a more comfortable fit. In terms of material quality, both are on a par. The TYGR 300 R, however, uses a specially developed acoustic fleece, which provides better sound reproduction in the treble compared to the MMX 300. In general, if ambient noise is not a problem and you don't necessarily want a headset, we would recommend TEAM TYGR for optimal sound reproduction and recording.
Yeah they're going with a DF target for their dt880, but they often overemphasize certain harmonics that can make things a bit piercing in the highs.
Does this work well for the ps5 in regards do you get good high volume
i don't own these hp's yet, but i'm fairly confident a ps5 can drive 32ohms just fine. you'll get loud volume.
Jesse Howicaos Letter? Wutt? I don't understand. What song?
I see; YOSI HORIKAWA's "Letter"
So what? Get the Tygr's over the 900's? Looking for mixing, mastering, music listening.
I agree so much with this, especially the comparison with the 900 Pro X which is just dull despite its better tuning (not as dull as the 700 pro x tho, jeeeesh). I like the 300R a lot for immersive gaming its a great all round "gaming" headphone, although K712 might be a better choice in many ways. 300R also didn't dethrone the 1990 for R6 Siege. I kinda feel like from a purely gaming perspective the 990 is perhaps a better choice cos its is a bit cheaper (assuming you already have an amp of course) and more available and the low mids are a bit subjectively better. However, the 560S is a superb allrounder for music and gaming that is hard to beat and frankly would be my pick over the 300R on sound and its comfortable enough for long gaming sessions. Having said that the comfort is amazing on the 300R, most comfortable headphone in my collection and lets be honest if youre gonna be gaming for long multi hour sessions, thats a huge benefit.
Yeah I struggle with the DT-990 treble a bit more. Maybe the pad wear thing can improve it, so maybe I'd need to test an older/used one.
@@ResolveReviews Graph wise it doesn't look like there's much between the TYGR and the 990 in terms of treble volume. I would guess that mid-bass bloom is masking the treble a bit on the 300R coupled with the front damping its a more "fun" listen than the 990 rather than being a bit strident. Pad wear on Beyers kinda lends some truth to the old "burn-in" meme lol
@@WheezyTech Yeah I could see that. But I will say, without dropping 5.6khz on the Tygr, it also immediately sounded wrong to me haha.
@@ResolveReviews i assume you guys are talking about the 250ohm variant, the 600ohm variant of dt-990 murdered my ears compared to tygr 300 r
Between the tygr and the 560s, which one would be be less fatiguing for fps games (specifically apex, so lots of gunshot sounds)? I supposed it would be better to go more neutral, i.e. with the 560s?
I am using 990 for gaming last 5 years, is it worth giving a shot with tygr?
Did you end up testing it? Im stuck between getting the tygrs or 990s atm
Plz make a video on best gaming earphone
Get a good pair of headphones for music,the rest is irrelevant
There is nothing unique to a "gaming headphone" besides maybe decent soundstage which is also present on most good music headphones
The only difference between enthusiast grade and gamer marketed stuff is how little value you get from "gaming" stuff after the company put 80% of their budget into marketing
The name Beyerdynamic reminds me of Hyperbaric which can make your ears bleed. Irrational, Wes but Focal sounds harmless in comparison. I know you would say so if your ears bled.
i have those, they are nice but it's really annoying with openback design. you hear everything around you happening in room or outside room. really hard to play games with when you trying to listen to people
That's... what they.. are made for?? You get pros as well as cons with open back headphones.
I would rather buy a PC38X from Drop, this is just a revamped DT990.
wait i thought it was an 80 ohm impedance
I like your review about overall sound of TYGR 300R But I trust more Fresh review for competitive gaming performance. 900 X Pro is much better than 300R for competitive gaming.
yeah that's why i bought it, i like fresh reviews.
Possibly, but 210€ + expensive DAC ist too much for me.
TYGR 300 or 990 PRO 80 Ohm?
What do you think?
For 80 Ohm is a Sharkoon DAC PRO S2 enough.
@@mr.y1965 the 900 x are 46 ohm bruh
Sounds low on my iPhone12 pro (lacking) good but okay
This dude look like Unbox Therapy's long lost brother.
5:00 huh?
There is nothing better than listening to your voice on a warm headphone
Jus thought I'd throw that out there....
creepy??
Disappointing below 400hz. Rest is ok imo. Beyer always good with soundstage and imaging.
Agreed.
largely due to the new pads it seems
C'mon Beyer - stick a mic on it.
they have a headphone version with a mic. this is specially made for people who dont like to have a mic.
hope someone here can help, I am new to headphones for the most part.... I am looking for headphones for around $200 BUT need these qualities (mainly this order of importance) : 1. Wireless 2. comfort 3. open back (mainly for them being cooler temp..wider stage too but temp is important) 4 quality of sound. Thanks in advance
Just a suggestion, if you really value sound quality and a headphone being open back, take wireless out of the equation. The majority of reviews in this channel ARE NOT from wireless headphones so I don’t think you’re in the right place for that advice.
@@ljtech20 ok, thanks
yeah for music i dont really like them. i use a Audio Technica MSR7b for music.
I wish I had a big head
...I have both the Tygr and the 560s, and I have some treble sensitivity. I find the 560s's treble to be noticeably less tolerable than the Tygr's, which also seems more detailed and has better soundstage and crazy better imaging. I'm running them on a version one Zen dac and a middling Chromebook. When I'm listening to things like contemporary concert music, where there's often all sorts of complex sounds happening across a wide stage, the Tygrs seem far superior. To really get all the information AND even more tolerable treble, I will have to come up with more bucks, I suspect. Several times more...
Yeah I can see good reasons to go with the TYGR tbh. Those who are sensitive to that 4-6khz spiciness of the HD 560 S won't have as much issue with the TYGR, only because the rest of those treble peaks on the TYGR balance it out a bit better. I just think the 560 S would be better for those who prefer a more neutral or linear kind of bass/mids.
I have both too and I tried smth. I used wavelet's auto eq with the es100 and the Tygr and it somehow blew me away..
I really love the 560s and the sundara will arrive tomorrow or so but now I'm not so sure if I will ever stop to listening to the Tygre again.. so amazing..
@@Cassus123456 ...thanks. I use a funky little eq app whose name I can't even remember should probably try to get a little hipper with the whole eq thing. I thought the Tygr's just kicked ass on the 560s right out of the box--the 560s treble doesn't seem particularly remediable to me, but maybe a more capable eq could help BOTH sets for me...
ucan get it for sub 150
Yes, new intro! Please make it shorter. lol
maybe you got a bad pair. The graph def seems off
Looks like the bass these guys got: diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/headphones/measurements/brands-a-i/tygr-300-r/
Looks about right to me. I have to say I don't think Crins graph is correct. Its too close to the 990 yet it sounds nothing like it. That mid bass hump is hugely noticeable when you first put them on cos it rumbles your head, the 990 is nowhere near that.
you'd look badass bald
That's sort of inevitable at this point.