How to Add an Electrical Outlet ANYWHERE !! Heated Toilet Seat or Bidet Install | Run Power Easily
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- In this video I'll show you how I ran power off an existing outlet to a new electrical outlet in a toilet room....Which you could use for you heated toilet seat or bidet install :)
Its not too common that a home builder will have an electrical outlet next to your toilet, but don't worry, I got you covered. I'll show you just how easy it is to get the outlet where you need it.
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Easy to install, th-cam.com/users/postUgkxjA-hDN2m8_mi0Dg0JD8U6QiArozIAc4I and comfortable. No idea what other people were talking about when they said it was difficult to install or uncomfortable.
100%
I want to install an outlet right next to the bathtub. It will make it so much easier to throw the toaster in.😄
I Wouldn’t recommend that one.
Chucky would appreciate if you did
Let me know if you're able to read women's minds after that (movie reference for the ones who don't catch it).
@@AnthonyChhan what women want?
@@jaxfortner7979 yes sir!
Your title says, "add an electrical outlet ANYWHERE" but you were "lucky" to have one just on the other side of the same wall! Yeah, that's easy. Certainly a lot easier than if you had the nearest outlet across the room in a house built in 1952. Your title is misleading to say the least.
The main purpose of the video was to show some techniques that I used to relocate or add an outlet. That way you could apply them to your own scenario and hopefully overcome obstacles you may find. I have other videos showing similar techniques where I’m relocating electrical and the same techniques apply.
Too much talking, too little showing.
Thank you! I appreciate it
For a novice like me, would be nice to see the how the wires are suppose to connect to that new GFCI circuit-nice tutorial-thank you…
Thank you! I do have a video about wiring outlets and GFCI outlets on my channel. I go into more detail on just wiring
Funny how the word "ANYWHERE" in the title is all caps, yet missing the asterisk... *ANYWHERE...as in anywhere you have an existing outlet nearby. For the record, the video was good, just didn't match the title
I get what your saying but that’s not entirely true. You can implement the same concept and techniques of wiring, cutting out the old box, installing the new box practically anywhere you want in the wall because of the way it attaches on the inside of the drywall, and even jump across studs with drywall work included in the process. I have videos showing outlets being ran up a wall for longer stretches, electrical being fished through and across attic space. The videos intent is to show techniques for moving electrical, and if you implemented some of those now hopefully learned techniques you’d pretty much be able to install an outlet…anywhere you wanted.
I appreciate the feed back though. Everyone has different experience levels, most my videos are to just show things to others and help educate.
@@steventhompson558 it’s more about taking techniques in a video you see and then using your learned skills and applying them in your own unique situations. If you go over EVERY scenario that someone could come across where they would want to move an outlet to and then cover all the obstacles that could come up…you’d have a video so long you’d never find they scenarios that apply to you vs all the other ones that could happen. I think it was more about showing one way with some techniques and keeping it simple and to the point. There’s plenty of content out there to cover other specific scenarios.
Everyone on TH-cam knows to hit the like and subscribe to the.. If you ask us to... I'm stopping the video.... And not....
That’s true but also not true. People are aware of it and I’d assume, just like you, that people will hit it because they like the video or want to support that person in some way. BUT with all the research and analytics done they show that a lot of the time people don’t. And that videos where you ask or remind people to subscribe or hit like have a significantly higher rate of people actually doing it. So for people trying to develop a TH-cam channel it really does help. Even some of the biggest TH-cam channels today still mention “hit the like Button” during the video. The goal I guess is to do it subtly or make it unique and not to cheesy or basic/abrupt. I apologize for mentioning it, but I gotta kinda do it. So I’ll try to be more creative with it in the future. But either way I do appreciate you commenting.
This video is proof that you have zero business doing ANY electrical work, let alone teaching people about it. FYI, functional and safe are two TOTALLY different things. Functional is easy, safe is not. That's why a professional should be hired. This video is full of code violations. Also, for the record, the tool isn't called a rotary tool it's an oscillating tool, and it's not called Nomex it's called Romex. Tellng anyone to stick a sawzall blade in a wall next to a box like that is pure stupidity. What if the wire came up and went around the box and into the top instead? You can't be sure how the original guy wired it and using a sawzall is dumb. Using the "oscillating" tool with a carbide blade is the option for removing the old box. An electrician wouldn't have even needed to remove the box anyway. Please don't do anymore electrical videos, your info is wrong and dangerous.
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Nice install, only wish I could have seen the old and new wires tied together better or a slower explanation. As a newbie that was an important moment to follow.
I appreciate your comment. I will be doing a couple more videos showing just that. I’ve had a lot of questions about these parts of the process. So I’ll emphasize more this in future videos.
It’s dangerous for you to take a project like this on without having thought it through for yourself a little bit better first, and I’m not trying to be snide by saying this. It wouldn’t be learning if the teacher did the student’s thinking and “newbie” seems to imply actual interest. He doesn’t need to change his videos lol just because there are some viewers who conflate wanting to learn with wanting the result of having learned. Dude’s video was totally responsible using a hollow interior wall and not advising novices to go on the back wall where the water supply is.
Inexperience doesn’t need the vocabulary to figure out this is a parallel circuit, but the video does presume anyone without enough snap to infer that the three (hot neutral and ground, respectively black white and bare or green in the U.S.) wires need to be individually connected to the same-colored terminals at the additional load (brass steel and green) as they are at the other end of the new jumper (even if every conductor had the same color insulation, which they don’t for what one should hire an electrician If they don’t realize are obvious reasons of safety and convenience) has enough self awareness to forthrightly call having a situational instrumental use for some information what it is. Criticizing useful information consulted under false pretenses as unclear though is just the projection of someone trying to pretend (unclear with self) they aren’t playing make-believe about their own deluded unassailable perfection by diminishing the work of others (electrician you need to hire and TH-camr you need to stop gaslighting).
Thank you. I appreciate the words.
I kind of felt like that, too, but I have no intention of doing the work myself; I just want to know if it can be done and how much is involved so I'll know if the electrician is being straight with me.
@@virginiamoss7045 it can most definitely be done. It’s just doing it properly and sometimes that involves more labor and work. So it could get pricey depending on how much work is needed.
Biggest thing I would add, if you’re not an electrician and your house was built before 1980/1990 I would not do this. All sorts of interesting things were done in older homes. Sometimes just taking out an outlet can be opening a can of worms. You ran into an ideal situation. 1 set of wires in the original box. It was 12/2 ROMEX. You didn’t have to jump bays. If you find this situation in an older house go buy a lottery ticket too.
Your 100% right. In Older homes you’ll find all kinds of different materials used and methods used. It can be a simple job at first, then turn into a whole different storm once you see inside those walls
Yeah, like no neutral wire! Yikes!
I really like that you reply to your comments, even the one that are critical of you.
I look forward to watching more of your videos.
Haha. Yeah. I do my best to reply to all comments on all my videos. Even when they are being negative. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they are just having a bad day.
Maybe Its just me...but I found this video to be incomplete and potentially dangerous for an average home owner to do themselves... you didnt really show how its done but rather just told how its done 🤷
That is partially correct. I have other videos that show similar techniques for moving outlets or adding outlets that go into more detail. Other videos that show more detailed outlet wiring and GFCI wiring. But this video was a shorter version of how I added an outlet to another room using those similar techniques and jumping into another room rather than moving it up a wall. I tried to keep this video in particular shorter and to the point.
I did this exact thing to the T but now my outlet says open ground Neu 30v when tripped but when it’s not tripped it shows 120v and correct connections
Looking to upgrade my bidet to a powered unit, thanks for solving my problem to supply power to it!
Your very welcome!!
There are a lot of details that should be included when doing a video like this. Hire a professional electrician if you do not know what the things he should have covered are.
When I doubt always consult a professional or call them in. Great info.
Just be aware you cannot tap off any other outlet (hallway/general purpose power) unless it is associated with the bathroom circuit, or any additional bathroom’s circuit. A bathroom(s)circuit(s)shall have no other outlets.
Guess they didn't know that when my house was built 😀
@@uweschroeder As long as whatever you plug into those outlets don't trip the breaker, them you should be fine. If it really bothers you, then you can fix it but depending on your house, it's either gonna it's gonna be straightforward or challenging
If a home inspector finds this you may have to fix it to sell the house or lower the price to cover the fix or maybe they'll just back out of the sale.
@@Dave.O I think that's the least of the problems where I live. Here they started doing a code inspection before you can sell a house and they fine you and require you to bring the house up to current code if it's not - and that's just a given since no house in this town is up to current code unless very recently built. It's a way for the city to make extra money and get contractors - who big money supported that legislation - to make more money. I already know it would cost anywhere from 100k to 200k to bring this house up to code and fully permitted. So I'll never sell the house - I'd rather turn it into a section 8 housing or just rent it until it falls apart.
@@uweschroeder Could not agree more Local government really sucks, it kills the home owner little guy. I think the job was well done and safe .
GFCI definitely a good idea. My hand-held bidet backed off a couple of threads from the gooseneck over time and started a slow, subtle leak beside the toilet.
Yeah, anytime your around a water source or chance or water, it’s always a good idea to have it GFCI
Did my nikka just say _No-Mex wire?_ 😆 @ 4:22
I guess some wire company named their non-metallic sheathed wire NoMex 🤔 because we typically call (NMB wire) Romex™ it's just one old popular trade name of a company that made that type of wire. Kind of like the two hand tool names Channel Locks and Tounge and groove pliers. Same shyt, different toilet. But that's the first time i heard of NoMex wire. Anyway, I think electric work should be left to the pros 4real. Theirs just to much that can go wrong to justify being cheap. But if you are confident with tools & u have some similar experience and u want to tackle a small electrical job yourself, then I would still highly highly recommend that you have a very experienced electrician right next to you, the first few times you work on a circuit. Everyone has some buddy that has a buddy they can call. And if u are not comfortable enough to ask someone more experienced for help, that's ok. Electricians all over the world will continue to make tons of money off of you guys, unfortunately. But somebody has to fix the shyt after half the lights in your house go off and u have a full PTSD freak out any time static shocks ur lil finger 😆🤞
Theirs 1 good reason I don't tell ppl how to change a transmission and that's because I don't freaking know bro 😆
NoMex is hard to find but it’s out there. A little more pricey though. My mistake wasting my money one that stuff. Got sold some snake oil for sure.
But I appreciate the feel back. I agree with what your saying. I’d always recommend asking or hiring a licensed electrician for these jobs around your house. Better safe than sorry.
Please cut back on prefacing everything with the word "actually". Stopped counting at 3 dozen when maybe 3 or 4 would be enough. Otherwise, nice production, maybe camera more on the area being worked on and a little less face time. How about when no opposite outlets but studs needing addressed? Thanks
I appreciate it. I believe I’ve gotten better at reducing the amount of actually’s. If you want to check out some of my more recent videos. I have a couple other ones showing more in detail the process when moving an outlet up or down a wall.
Viewers beware, this may not be up to code where you live. At the very least, a GFI outlet is required anyplace where water may be encountered. There may also be rules, specific to your locale, that complicate placement of bathroom electrical outlets.
That is correct. You should always check your local building codes. And just like in this video we installed a GFCI outlet because it’s in an area where water or moisture is present. You should always check with a licensed contractor or electrician if your unsure.
I would not want to be the potty training kid who accidentally pees on that outlet...
@@spicyreef yeah that’s be no good
@@spicyreef heh reminds me of a sign in a restaurant bath....we aim to please, will you aim please
as long as you know there is no obstructions in the wall, you don't need to remove the existing outlet box. You can pull the duplex outlet out of the box, punch a new hole in it and feed the new wire through the box and from the other side of the wall cut your hole and pull the wire to where the new box. You can then attach the new wire to the existing outlet and the new outlet.
Yep! Good ideas. Definitely Another way this can be accomplished
Ugh! This was helpful but unfortunately I'm stuck. My new house has a ton of outlets but none near any of the bathrooms. The put all of the bathrooms next to closets which of course don't have outlets either.
You can still use some of the techniques I showed in this video to get to the power and install the new power. But you’d most likely have to run across the wall and through a couple studs. It’s totally possible, just requires some drilling and drywall work
Nice job on that. Thank you for making & posting this informative and teaching video.
Thank you! It’s very appreciated!
Good idea for a video but so much talking and so little instructional footage. Would have been better with filming the work and techniques for every step in the job. In a 7:54 long video, the actual work footage looks like less than a minute.
Yeah this one was filmed on the fly while I was in a friends house doing the job. So I was quick with the footage and didn’t have the proper set up to stage any filming. But I still wanted to try and document the basics. I have a few other videos showing this same technique I’m more detail. Moving outlets in different scenarios but all the same techniques used.
Heated toilet seat. Wow. How ridiculous can you get🤣😂🤣🤣 it's heated after about 10 seconds omg
Exactly!
What about to install close to the corner?
Why to close to the floor?
You can install the outlet where you’d prefer, I chose this spot becoming it was the path of least resistance and it worked for the home owner. But if you want to jump over some studs and do a little drywall work you can definitely place it wherever you’d like.
I thought the outlet had to be a minimum 12 inches from the ground.
Romex eh, try that with code required EMT.
Knowing how to do something is a long way removed from the proposition that you should do it.
In Australia, hardware merchants used not to sell the hardware needed for such installations. We were all safe……..until a new hardware chain opened. It attempted to displace a well known long established chain which understood how Australians thought and shopped. The new chain was modelled on the American “Home Depot”, and started to sell weird shit like the things you need to buy to kill yourself at home. We all knew that things sphere stuffed up because the inventory and store layout was a deadset copy of the northern hemisphere enterprise. The new chain opened in November 2011, the height of summer, and proudly advertised SNOW SHOVELS as an “out the front” impulse special!
If you think about it you’ll suddenly realise that imitation can be a form of flattery and inspiration, but it can also represent a form of stupidity!!
Stavros
I appreciate the short history lesson. I had no idea
What if my house is not built from paper but actual bricks?
You will need to cut through that brick and run your wires and/or run external non conductive conduit to where you want the new outlet.
Odd place for an outlet. What are you going to plug in there?? A lamp?? An electric shaver, or hair blow dryer??
A lava lamp actually.
This is perfect for my RV(bidet, heat, led's). I was concerned about turning toilet into electric chair. The gfci outlet should take care of that.
Awesome to hear!
Ferret, when you "gotta go", you "gotta go"!
lol
why am I seeing this???? You really chose this photo as a thumbnail to a video???????
I’m assuming TH-cam’s algorithm thought you might like the video.
that is totally illegal and dangerous to put an electrical socket so close to a toilet where I live. What are you thinking?
Maybe where he lives it's fine. But yes, IDK why it's not illegal nationwide
GFI is required in our state. Relax people
Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't it called Romex not Nomex wire?
Yep. I Kia apple when filming. Same same. Lol. Romex is fire retardant material. Nomex is the wire used here.
Not sure what your building codes are in your area but in my area, it is a code violation to put an electrical outlet near a water source. I found this out because the previous owner installed a utility sink near the breaker box and he also put an outlet, below the sink in the master bath. Code inspection resulted in me relocating the boxes. I’m not trying to be difficult, just providing data that if anyone wants to install new electrical circuits, check the building codes in their areas.
I appreciate the info. Installing an outlet directly under a water source is obviously a bad idea. Lol. But there are also outlets in bathrooms, usually above countertops, so it can be near or by water sources. Just within safe distances. Almost all times they require a GFCI on that circuit as well. And code out here goes even one step further now where every outlet has to start with a GFCI outlet. So it is always good to check your local code. They are in place to for safety. And there’s usually a way to accomplish what you want within code
John - I think it’s 18 inches ( electrical outlet from water source). Of course no utility sink next to the breaker box.
I agree. A lot of codes will require a specific distance from a water source. You should also see in that code how they measure that distance. For example, a sink in the corner of the kitchen, they might measure to the nearest corner of the sink and others might measure to the nearest corner of the sink that is closest to the wall.
@@mar1video for sure. Uncertain if national electric code supersedes municipal though probably not as local codes more likely are based on federal ones. Prudent common sense in application suggests if in doubt and there’s no preference then the more restrictive code prevailing covers you, but if this is a DIY channel i’m not understanding that degree of concern with code enforcement. Perhaps lenders or insurers require old houses to meet new codes when participating in certain new purchases because DIY remodelers do not have to pull building permits.
Ridiculous to think there’s not a way to achieve the safe provisioning of power near water though and homeboy didn’t do a non-fault-protected floor plug in a laundry room or next to a whirlpool or something stupid (maybe aluminum wire for the jumper lol) so it’s only a useful and necessary discussion about this type of application specifically because it makes the point of how and why there’s a single answer for each installation not every installation.
Since this is TH-cam, which is available free, it seems to me just providing data is closer to trying to be difficult than being difficult without even trying. Passive aggressive AF though (apparently without trying) to imply free TH-cam help for DIY should deliver content detailed explicitly enough for individual suitability. I like my DIY work to meet code as well, but the biggest advantage to not pulling a permit is fucking the code when there’s a good safe reason to do so. You can see the ridiculousness/inconsistency of code which permits power for a waste disposal beneath a kitchen sink that would forbid it in a bathroom
My guy, I’m not trying to tell you how to do your video job. But for the very end money shot of the installed outlet sweep up the drywall dust 😩
It was all cleaned before I left 😏 I was just trying to get some footage on this job and put a shorter video together for the TH-cam. Otherwise with some planning ahead I’d have had that squared away.
If that's a kitchen circuit you can't just tie into it and go into the bathroom better check your codes any Joe Blow can start a fire and burn the house down
This one was branched off of a bedroom circuit not being used. Only had a couple wall plugs on it. And the one it was branched off of was not used , hidden behind a dresser. But yes definitely check to see what circuit your tapping into before adding outlets.
You got lucky that the original outlet wasn't in the middle of a circuit.
It could still be done even if it was though. Almost exactly like my video where you move or add an outlet up the wall. You could pigtail the wires in the original box, keep the original outlet wires up the way it was and use the new set from the pigtail to run over to the new outlet on the inside of the bathroom. All very easy to do.
That’s great advice for everyone who lives in a new or pretty new structure. But what about all the folks that live in old homes without drywall or modern wiring? Big bucks.
Yeah every house is going to have its difference challenges. I’ll be showing different installs or obstacles that come up as I do projects so hopefully there will be something that can help everyone with their at home projects
Why didn't you install the bathroom outlet behind the toilet? A bidet cord will be very visible.
The wall behind the toilet is an exterior wall and it would require a lot more drywall work to move it around the corner and then on that wall behind. The homeowner wanted it in that location specifically because it was less expensive to do and they planned on having a little rack that goes on the floor there to sort of hide outlet. They weren’t too concerned about the cord, being visible, and more so about having the ability to use their bidet, but yes, it is possible to run the wire back there if you want to conceal it more. Just requires a little bit more work.
I'd try it but my dad would probably piss on it since he is 1/2 blind... Well that'll teach him!
May have to place the plug in a protected area or put an exterior weather proof cover on it. That’ll keep him safe.
You could have also came off the load side of an existing GFCI and installed a regular outlet saving 20 bucks.The out outlet would also be GFCI protected.
Good point!
Excellent point! In CA, a GFI needs to be in place anywhere there is water, I.e. Sink, shower, toilet etc. if closer than 3’. I also think our county code for an outlet is 12” above the floor. Different codes for different cities counties etc. check yours! BTW, there are GFI electrical boxes for a garage etc.
@@kenkw5515 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼 thank you!
What should you do when the spec sheet of the bidet seat requires a "dedicated" electrical GFCI circuit (120V, 15A, 60Hz)?
Make sure it is A GFCI outlet that you’re installing. It’s an added layer of protection. But if you want a truly dedicated line you’d have to run a brand new wire all the way from your breaker box off of a new breaker and run it all the way to the bathroom where you want it. Dedicated may be a little overkill. Making sure the circuit is GFCI protected is the first and main point.
@@FortKnoxCo Thank you! I thought a toilet seat needing its own circuit might be a bit much.
@@ericapp17 your welcome. Yeah I think it’s would be a lot and you could accomplish the same safety with other methods. Just depends on your local code requirements and all
You used a 20 AMP GFCI. It should have been 15 AMP because a 20 AMP should only have one outlet on it. But it really does not matter if you know not to overload that outlet but for code should not have done that.
Very good to know. Thank you!
Where is the code for that? A 20 amp kitchen circuit has more than one outlet
Not correct. A 20-amp can have any number of outlets.
@@nsbioy yep!
Need to learn the difference between "nomex" and "romex".
Yeah I get jumbled up with the words in the moment. It’s like potato potáto. I pronounce it wrong sometimes, the R sounds like an N sometimes.
You might want to check your local building codes most outlets are supposed to be 16 in off of the floor
This may be a local requirement in some places but it’s not NEC.
@@rivernet62 is is the national code
@@rivernet62 when you have no local code to use national code
@@crusherfang9368 yes I had a quiet requirement is 16 inches off the ground
Yes, the issue was American houses no brick much harder in the UK
yes, I'd imagine it would be harder doing this through brick. but it.can be done, just need a couple other tools.
Maybe retitle “how to install an outlet conveniently located near an existing one”?
It’s more about the method used to take an original outlet, how to remove it from the wall, how to branch off to create another outlet, how to cut the drywall and place a new box in a new “anywhere” location, etc. it’s more about the methods and critical thinking/problem solving. You can apply some of these techniques to your specific situation.
@@FortKnoxCo As long as its not further away than the nearest stud. Now that would be an informative video. I am installing a bidet toilet seat and the closest electrical outlet is 2 studs away. The other side of the bathroom wall is a stairwell, only a switched light circuit nearby. Have any ideas?
@@michaelmarrone5768 Yes, I'll be doing a video about how to jump studs and the drywall work required. But in many cases when the outlet isn't near by, as will lots of electrical work/additions, you'll be making some holes in your drywall and patching afterwards. its almost always the case when doing electrical work after the house is built.
Thanks. Keep up the good work
Is there a building code outlet height requirement?
Depends on your area/location. But it’s really not so much a critical thing. Just don’t want it on the floor or where it could get wet by standing water. Usually it’s a minimum of a few inches above the finished floor height. Commonly between 12-20 inches. But obviously you can go lower.
Make sure you check your electrical code. Our code specifies a minimum height off the floor for electrical outlets.
I appreciate that. Yeah I’ve seen some codes that allow outlets horizontal within the base boards, just inches off the ground. Probably depends of where you live for sure. Here it’s almost 100% slab concrete foundations. Other places they build off the ground 100%. So I’m sure codes require different safety measures even just for that.
Oh Jeeze, place the outlet where you want to. Just be smart about it (i.e. not in the shower)
@@johnbeckwith1361 exactly! I 100% agree! Just some common sense being used.
@@FortKnoxCo - baseboard mounted outlets in living room or a bedroom, because it’s dry. There are outlets in floors as well. Just not in a bathroom, where there is a chance for a flood.
@@mar1video that is correct.
I did this exact thing to the T but now my outlet says open ground Neu 30v when tripped but when it’s not tripped it shows 120v and correct connections
Hmm. Not sure why it would read that way. Obviously it shouldn’t trip unless there’s a fault or short. So otherwise it should function as a regular outlet. The outlet itself does t need to be a GFCI, it just needs to be on a circuit that has a GFCI somewhere before it or on the breaker. The circuit need GFCI protection when around wet areas
@@FortKnoxCo thank you so much for the response and for being super quick! We went with the GFCI because it’s next to the toilet and for some odd reason this bathroom never had one to begin with. We did nothing wrong based on your video and all the other vids I’ve seen but it’s odd how when tripped using a Gfci tester it shows open ground Neu 30. I hope everything is okay in the system though
@@singhjas I problem at all. Yeah if it’s not tripping for no reason and you just get that reading when you trip it or test it then I’d say you’re fine? You just don’t want it popping randomly for no reason on its own. That obviously would be a clear indication of a fault somewhere
Why did you used yellow elect cable if you need 15A outlet?
Most outlets will use 12/2 (yellow) Romex for the higher flow of electricity across the whole circuit. Lighting circuits usually run 14/2 (white). Less of a draw on the electrical.
Sometimes yellow will be used to supply power to a switch and white will be ran from the switch & to all the lights. Same thing, larger wire for the supply and higher capacity
I didn’t see how you connected the wire to the old outlet. That is the part I need help with.
I have another video showing how in more detail on my channel. How to move an outlet . You will connect the wires by “pig tailing” them.
make sure it's installed nice and low and beside the toilet so it gets plenty of piss splash on it..
Thank you for commenting
Can't do it since my bathroom has ceramic wall
You could cut/drill through the ceramic. Then complete the process ?
I AM NOT AN ELECTRICIAN BUT I DONT FEEL IT IS SAFE TO HAVE AN OUTLET IN THE BATHROOM CLOSE TO THE FLOOR INCASE OF FLOODING?
You can safely be done. If you don’t feel comfortable with it, then I wouldn’t do it in your house. But many people do enjoy having an outlet in there to be able to install things such as bidets. One of the main reasons that you install a GFCI outlet is in case of any type of water contact or shortage. Then there is no worry.
TALKED TO MUCH BUT DID NOTING
I appreciate it
I feel like that's what all these "experts" are doing in the comment section
I wouldn't put the outlet right next to somewhere that would could get pee splatter.
Very good point
It is not a rule to put the outlet,means distance from the floor to the water tank?
Could depend on electrical code where you live. But there are some considerations in general. I wouldn’t put it under a water source like where the water supply is coming out from the wall. I would keep it off the floor but it can still be lower than your standard 24” on the ground if you’d like. Some builders put outlets in toilet rooms for this reason. Main thing is that it’s a GFCI circuit to help with any potential short you may get.
For small or one time project, is it better to used a rotary saw or a hand saw? Would prefer nice clean cut.
Yes you can use a multi tool or whatever you prefer. To cut the nails or to cut the drywall. Whatever tools you have to get the job done. There’s many ways to accomplish the steps.
You dont show how to fish the wire?? Thats the hardest part.
There wasn’t any fishing in this install because it was directly on the other side of the wall a couple inches over. You could just hand it through. But I do have a couple other videos showing how to fish wires through walls and ceilings.
I thought that a bidet needed to have a dedicated circuit with nothing else on it.
Some might but usually with the power they need that would be overkill. The bidet themselves don’t use a ton of power, so you may be told by local code to have a dedicated outlet, but that usually is so that you can have that GFCI or AFCI protection on the circuit.
Super helpful - appreciate all the details and keeping things safe!!!
Your very welcome!
Thank you so much for doing this video!!!
Your welcome! I appreciate it!
I am not sure if others have brought this up but NEC 210.52(D) clearly states that outlets that aren't located by the counter are NOT allowed in bathrooms. They have to be within 3 feet of a sing and within 12" of height from a counter. Anywhere else in a bathroom isn't allowed. I know that there are some local jurisdictions that don't adopt the NEC, however all states except 4 (AZ/MO/IL/MS) haven't adopted some version of the code.
I don’t think anyone has mentioned that information. Really good info. Thank you!
I'm not an electrician, but it seems that code doesn't say it's NOT allowed. It seems it's talking about basin-related outlets. It doesn't seem to talk about others (like bidet related). Am I missing something? "receptacle outlet shall be installed in bathrooms within 36 in. of the outside edge of each basin. The receptacle outlet shall be located on a wall or partition that is adjacent to the basin or basin countertop"
@@Hajjat my man! I like the way you think. 🤙🏼🤙🏼 main goal is to be safe about how you handle electrical and understanding pros’ cons’ or different problem solving tactics. I appreciate your comment !
Good luck for every person doing this selling your house in the future 🤣🤣🤣
Should increase the value with the bidets being so popular lately. Might be the best bang for your buck. 🤙🏼
I did this in two bathrooms and had no problem selling the house.
Well these instructions I just didn’t get it at all.
I’m mainly showing different ways to circumvent problems that most will see when trying to move an electrical outlet
Let’s all count how many times he says the word “actually”. Useless word, actually.
Thank you for actually watching the video and actually commenting. Despite what you may think, I actually appreciate it.
It’s called a SawzALL, not a SawzAW. The name derives from the notion that it saws all things.
That’s correct !
I like the way you pointed out the GFCI, often missed by DIYers. Some advice for your future videos to help future DIYers and yourself.
1. The tabs in the back of your box were pressed through and did not spring back to secure the romex coming through. These are designed to be a form of "strain relief" and secure the cable set in the box. If the tabs are broken and not securing the wires inside the box, a new box should be used.
2. Your ground splice was in my experience, and opinion is very poor. Simply wrapping on ground around the other, and terminating to the bond screw on the receptacle is not a secure join. They should be properly twisted together and spliced with (in this case) a 3rd ground wire spiced in with to "pigtail" to the receptacle bond screw.
3. They way you terminated your receptacle seemed fine and works. However through years of service work, a better way IMO is to splice and pigtail a hot, neutral, and ground wire to your incoming and outgoing branches, and terminating only the one pigtail to your receptacle. This prevents loss of power all downstream devices, (lights, receptacles, etc.) if something happens to this specific receptacle. This is not necessary, and depending on the circumstances may not prevent loss to all downstream devices. However through years of service work finding no power at multiple receptacles, only to find the one defective receptacle after opening many devices, this method has saved me a lot of time.
4. Thanks for mentioning to turn of the specific cct off. Too many avoidable incidents happen due to poor planning.
Good luck with future videos, information paired with education is always positive progress.
Thank you very much for all the information and positive words. I greatly appreciate it.
Brother I run a shit ton of wire and I always pop the tabs out. Inspectors don’t give two shits about the tabs believe me.
I agree 100% to pigtail so power keeps going down the line in case the first receptacle is damaged. We do not want to kill power down line.
@@tittyrino that’s the best way to do it.!
@@tittyrino that's true, inspectors will only call the small inconspicuous details if you fight them or argue everything. But it's not just about inspection, also protection. There's a reason there is always a way to secure cable sets in entry points.
IF YOU DONT HAVE A HEATED TOILET SEAT....YOU AINT S#@T
Word!
thanks a bunch nice presentation
Thank you!!
also takes a little longer if the bathroom is tiled heh
Yeah that would require a little more time but still definitely possible. They have drill bits and diamond toped blades that will make quick work of cutting the tile
Not every circuit in a home needs to be gfci. I.e., lighting, bedrooms, etc are not.
Garages require gfci because it’s considered wet. Bathroom outlets are supposed to be dedicated circuits for the bathroom only, plus being gfci. Kitchen circuits (minimum 2 at 20A) also must be gfci protected. Same for washing machines, garbage disposals, etc.
The only exceptions to that are dishwashers, and sump pumps are never gfci protected.
Thank you for all the good information! I appreciate it!
That's odd. I researched the sump pump statement and one of the 2008 revisions to the NEC says that sump pumps be placed on a GFCI protected circuit.
@@dougms9790 yeah I’d think because it has to do with being around moisture. GFCI is required on a lot of things now just as a redundant safety system.
nomex? lol its romex buddy.
Yup I know. While speaking on camera I jumble words sometimes.
how much would it cost to have someone do this ?
If there’s no major obstructions in your wall I’d say a couple hundred at most. It’s about 3 hours of labor
THATOUTLET IS TOO CLOSE TO THE FLOOR.
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Great video. Question? The distance between the toilet and plug doesn't matter, as long as you have a GFCI plug?
I wouldn’t say it doesn’t matter, but the GFCI is that safety measure. But you still need to try to avoid any water contact. So the furthest away or in a position that protects it from moisture or water is best. The GFCI outlet is just a safety measure in case it were to get wet or have some type of short. But I would still always try to put it furthest away from any water source.
Local codes in different areas may have different measurements they require.
There are actually 22 uses of the word "actually" in this video. It is actually possible to use "actually" in virtually every sentence, but it isn't actually necessary. Actually watch the video again and actually count every time he says "actually." It actually becomes extremely distracting, and, actually, quite annoying.
It's actually a bizarre phenomenon in many TH-cam videos where the presenter actually over uses "actually." It could actually be that the speaker is actually nervous or it could actually be that the they feel that using the word actually makes them sound smarter. Now that it has actually been pointed out, the occurrences will actually become impossible to ignore.
To actually avoid doing this, TH-camrs should actually write a script for the video. It will actually make the presentation better.
You should Actually turn this into a drinking game. Actually sounds kinda fun. That’s for watching and commenting
Very misleading title, "Add an Electrical Outlet ANYWHERE". This is not true! On one side of my toilet is the outside wall. The rear is to the laundry room but doesn't have an outlet on that wall. So the only source of power is the bathroom light switch, and that would mean cutting many studs to get the wiring to the new outlet and possibly open up all the drywall.
This video shows techniques that you can use to do just that. Although I wouldn’t recommend cutting through studs, when you move electrical a lot of the times you do have to drill through studs though. That’s how they do it when they’re building the house. The further you have to move it the more drywall work is required and usually you have to jump through studs. But a lot of the technique shown in the video can be applied to different scenarios. The videos goal is to show you different techniques that can be applied to different scenarios when doing different DIY projects. I also have some videos on moving electrical up walls as walls and through ceilings.
I live in a rental with no bathroom outlet. There is one in the adjacent room. I drilled a hole in the wall on both sides, making sure i didn't hit wires and fed the cord through for my heater.. My bathroom was always freezing in the winter. I'll just patch when I move.
Sounds like you got the idea down. You can move power without to much work. Just be cautious when using outlets or powered devices in areas where water is near by. A GFCI outlet is an added layer of protection.
IF this was truly a video on how to install an outlet "ANYWHERE", then show me how to install the outlet where you found that vent pipe.
Otherwise change the title of the video to; how to install an outlet CONDITIONS PERMITTING.
Well if you wanted to open the wall up more and cut and re direct the vent pipe you most certainly could. But that would be waaaaay more work than needed. Especially when in this case it was flexible where the outlet was needed. So just made the decision to save some time and money and not mess with the vent pipe.
Definitely something I can't do myself. 4 walls of the bathroom: one is an exterior wall, one goes into the hallway (no outlets), one has the tub and the only bit of wall on that side goes to a closet in the adjoining bedroom, and the last wall goes to a basement staircase and the closet of the other bedroom. The bathroom itself only has electrical for the lights/fan (no outlets) and the light switches are outside the bathroom itself. My house is from 1945 for context.
Aww man. Sorry to hear this. It can be done but it might cost a pretty penny to run some new electrical
My house was built in the 2000s and I have the same issue. The nearest outlet to the toilet is 25 feet away where the sinks are. On the other wall opposite the toilet is the master closet and there are no outlets there either...
@@FortKnoxCo Yeah. Priced it in my area and I was quoted $5k because he would have to run a wire from the fuse panel in the basement, up to the attic then down to the bathroom. Yeah...$5k can buy a lot of toilet paper!
@@ekummel yeah that’s a little pricey. Sometimes the juice isn’t worth the squeeze
@@ekummel Yeah in that case you may have to do a good amount of drywall work. Usually when you have to run that far with new wire you’re gonna have to cross over some studs and that entails making some holes in the drywall. At minimum. It’s almost always possible just matters how much work do you want to put into it.
Kind of a misleading title. This is not putting an outlet “anywhere”. It’s putting an outlet where it’s very easy to put an outlet. Behind another outlet! The video should’ve been titled “How to easily put an outlet behind an adjacent outlet. I absolutely hate the abundance of misleading titles to most of the videos on TH-cam.
The main thing in this video is you can take the techniques used to move this outlet 4” over and move it 40’ if you wanted. It’s more of how you can take what you learn and apply it in other areas and scenarios. I apologize if you felt mislead. But it was meant more to show techniques in general used while moving an outlet.
I had thought ahead when we remodeled our bathroom and had the outlet put in place by the toiler. The negative is that the contractor connected the outlet to the circuit that powered the bathroom sink lights. So when the bidet seat activates, the lights flicker.
Aww man that’s no good. You could always try to bring another power source over to the outlet from a wall plug near by.
Check your connections on your wires sounds like you might have a loose ground or something
I encountered the same issue. There was a feint flicker of the lights when the seat heater was activated. Lucky for me there was a spare unused line up to the bathroom from a whirlpool bath that was previously removed, so I reconnected the bidet outlet to that circuit.
I think you have other issues related to this circuit's installation. Flickering? No.
Why are the subject matter?
I’m not sure what your asking here
So did you put the new box on the same stud (opposite side) just lower?
The new box is floating in between the two studs. It’s a retro (old work) box, so you can technically put it anywhere within the space and the box has tabs on the inside that will hold or suspend it securely. I have a link to the boxes in my description
"ANYWHERE !!" >> where there is already an outlet / box nearby, right?
Nope. Pretty much anywhere. The methods of pulling the old box and branching off are all the same wether your moving it up a wall, which I have a video on, moving it the the other side into another room, which this video shows , or wanting to move it up over and waaaay down to another location. You can do the same either way. Moving it further just requires more work like drywall work when you cut holes and have to drill through a stud in the wall and run the wire through and then patch that hole and repeat the further you move. I’ll be making a video where I show how to do the drywall work and drilling through studs for people wanting to do that.
Toilet room? Just another way for the builder/ developer to add on to the cost! Hello! We don’t need a toilet room with another door. To pay for..
And I just love how the developers have made every neighborhood in the United States look the same … And I’m thinking the world also.. check it out.. neighborhoods in Arizona look like the neighborhoods in Las Vegas.. look at the neighborhoods in Australia! They look the same way..
But the newer neighborhoods only have a sidewalk on one side of the street.
Yeah I’ve seen a lot of the same build styles on the west coast for sure. Very similar exterior elevations and very similar finishes and floor plans. A lot of people do like the private toilet room in the master bath though. That’s a very common design now a days.
Is it popular to have an outlet installed in such a place in a bathroom as in this video? Or was this simply a custom request?
I'd be interested in seeing a video from you on beneficial outlet locations to consider when building a new home. Places that end up being more convenient and useful than a person might think.
Yes this was a customer request. But some builders are putting outlets in the toilet room for bidet hook ups. Usually it’s a specific thing you have to ask for during the build.
I will be making a video about the custom home we are building and some of the locations I’ve added for outlets.
@@FortKnoxCo I'll look forward to that. Thank you for the great quality videos. Glad I stumbled across you're channel.
@@brycestrong8195 thank you I appreciate that
How to run a wire under ur house
You want to run it under your house ?? Usually they don’t run electrical Under. It’s usually to the house or to another structure. Then through the house. But if you really need it on the other side of the house you’ll probably go in the ground and AROUND your house.
Did you center the outlet?
The location of the outlet was not centered on the wall if that’s what your asking. We measured over to where the home owner kept a basket by the floor, I located a power four e and stud to work around and we placed the outlet there. It was about 1/3 the way over from the back wall. It was placed where the home owner wanted.
The wire is romex not nomex
That is correct!
Not allowed in the UK
Good to know
This is crazy stupid
Thank you for commenting
Thank you for the great info. I am currently using whay i learned here to install a plug for my new brondell bidet toilet seat
That’s awesome to hear! I’m glad I could be of help.
Great tutorial! Very thorough.
Thank you! I appreciate that
Can you cover an outlet in your house with a metal storage cabinet?? Will that start electrical fire?
If your just placing the cabinet in front of it that shouldn’t be a problem.
I'm not sure how many people were helped by a camera focused on you talking. A good how-to video should consist of well lit, well focused camera wok a clear descriptive voiceover.
This video was more of a quicker how to just showing methods to pull old gang boxes, wire outlets and use of retro gang boxes. I have other way more detailed videos about moving electrical on my channel if you’d like to take a look
Stay in your lane. 😆
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