Ryan Roberts referred to Freeman's pregame comment regarding Notre Dame's approach offensively against Miami Ohio's defensive. Lou Holtz would never make such statements or any other top quality coach. Notre Dame should never approach a game with type of mind set. I now am beginning to see the common denominator of why our team may not be prepared for some of our opponents.
I don't care how talented Riley Leonard is, the kid is aloof. This is why he misses layup throws. This is why the offense is struggling. The QB is the leader and sets the tone for his team. Dynamic and has talent, but it's not a mystery to me that when Angeli is on the field, the offense has more spark. It's about attitude. It's about want. It's about heart. It doesn't seem to me that Leonard wants excellence.
Geez, you guys pick on the fans response. Yes it was a win, but watching muffed punts, bad FG snaps, easy throws for chunk plays missed and both lines getting pushed around. And a 22 year old, $2 million injury inconsistent QB who has a ‘confidence’ problem.
This is why I like RR and Sean they tell it like it is. Vince at times once to give credit for things a QB should do, like he hit the short throws in the middle of the game, Vince he’s supposed to hit them all the time not some of the times as a true senior
I can tell u this after watching all the College Football this weekend there is no way this team makes the playoffs there are going to be to many really good 1& 2 lose teams and I can see ND losing 1 or 2 more this Offense is a JOKE
I’m so sick of media stating RL is more dynamic, the better QB, etc. when he can’t hit a 5yd out! Just because you are more athletic on paper does not make you a good QB! Not saying SA is TB, but TB is one of the least athletic QB’s in combine history, extremely slow, but atleast he could complete passes. 1st overall picks & 5 stars don’t always pan out, just bc you are higher rated on paper does not mean you will be better! We need a spark like in ‘18 when we benched Wimbush for Book, which btw we ended up going to the playoff w/ Book! I’m proud to say I don’t know football for calling for a QB change, bc the truth is coming!
ND has had two games that we all were proud of (TA&M, PUR) and two games that left us concerned and scratching our collective head. Inconsistency. Playing to the level of their opponents. And then there is one other dynamic - this is a weird season across the country.
I'm not confident in the offense, tbh. Not sure what is going on there. But 9-3 is looking more realistic. Everyone said in 2018 to keep Winbush in because he was much better than Book. But, shockingly, the less talented Book made that clunky offense look smooth and explosive. I feel Angeli, or Minchey could be the spark they need. Anyone who doesn't think so, is obviously married to their pre season allegiance to Riley Leonard. Offense has absolutely no rhythm with Leonard. This is glaringly obvious. No clue how people cant see how clunky and off time the offense is with Leonard in. If the offense was a band, Leonard would be their out of time drummer.
Y'alls takes we're booty today do better......Angelli and Minchey can easily do what Riley is doing with scrambles and moving the pocket but they throw a billion tines better you keep trying to paint a pig and tell us it's not a pig. Sure we have other problems like a struggling o line due to injury and age but we absolutely need better QB play and that's a non negotiable
@@gavinwright7191 100%. Yeah, they probably have bigger problems than Leonard, but not being able to throw simple short passes is a problem, despite what everyone else is saying. That's on Leonard. Moving the chains more consistently could help momentum in many, many ways! Not sure why this obvious truth is being ignored by IB.
As per Shawn's and Vince comment about not changing QB, if Leonard can't throw effectively against Louisville, we are not running the ball good enough to win game, we should not bring in Angelli to spark the passing game. I predict that Louisville will stack the box, allowing our wide receivers and tight ends to be open. If we lose this game based on Louisville stopping the run and we don't try to spark the passing game to counter Louisville, many questions must be answered at post game presser.
@@GridleyMike Mike, you may have misunderstood my post! I disagree with Shawn and Vice about not bringing in Angelli. We should make a change at QB when the game situation calls for it. Louisville may well shut the run down, forcing the Irish to open up the passing game.
@@patrickturner4581 ok One thing a lot of us overlooking Were in year 3 ara 10-0 holtz 12-0 Bk 12-0 before title game Love coach freeman but he ‘s in over his head
The schedule doesn’t help They come out flat vs mac teams no motivation also Leonard is not the guy he’s an inconsistent passer Remember Brandon wimbush?
He’s inconsistent, you’re right, but he makes plays. He’s not a drop back guy, but he has to get more accurate. He doesn’t have to launch the ball downfield, but he can’t miss the open layups.
@@swedejohanson7739 You don't 'get more accurate.' You either have it or you don't. Unfortunately for ND, RL doesn't have it and he never will. ND has dynamic runners. We don't need a running QB. We need a guy who can chuck it down field. Isn't this what everyone has been clamoring for the past few seasons?
@@1202-Alarm yeah you’re right and this goes back to Kelly leaving us w Buchner and Pyne. Coan, Hartman, and RL were brought in to bridge the gap until our guys are developed. My question is, why do these portal QBs come to ND and get worse? Why did Hartman sling it all over the place for 5 years at Wake, but comes to ND and forgets how to play QB?
I soooo want Marcus Freeman to be successful. Not just because he is the head coach of ND, but he seems like a really good man. But, I am just not seeing it happening. Every issue we have ultimately leads back to him. Riley isn’t right for us? He got him. We play tight? Head coach sets that tone. I really want him to figure out. I just don’t see it happening. This will be a team that has great talent but consistently underperforms. It is harder to watch than when they had lesser talent and would get whooped by the big boys.
Casey Stengel in the Yankee clubhouse said I’m going to have to trade this guy, a player asked why are trading him Casey he’s a nice guy. Casey,s response was yeah he’s a nice guy he’s nice guy give me somebody who can hit….
I agree I like Freeman but this season going forward is not looking good. This team MUST win every game going forward to make the playoffs. I doubt it happens. The team next season will have alot of holes to fill. Honestly if Notre Dames misses the playoffs I think it would be a good time to buy Freeman out.
Soft coach who doesn't keep tabs on his kids on Friday nights before home games. Freeman is a great guy and an awesome recruiter and the kids love him.. but they love him like a cool big brother and do not love and fear him like a young man does a respected father who keeps his sons in line because he cares and KNOWS what's best for the.m. A good parent or coach doesn't give one iota whether their kids think they're 'cool'. Freeman already has an incredibly awkward/antiquated football philosophy working against him.. if he's not careful, these other program ailments will build up and boil over to the point in which Notre Dame drops more games they have no business losing with the level of talent and depth on this roster this season. Freeman: get tf out of Denbrock's way and worry about the defense and why they're getting repeatedly gashed up front in the run game!?!! 😤😤😡
Miami Ohio is a triple A ball club. Notre Dame is a major league team the defense did its job. The problem still exists and will appear down the schedule
28-3 is sloppy lol? Idk bout that. But. I. Am worried because we will lose another game. Which probably eliminate bus from playoffs because our strength of schedule. Seems weak
I'm starting to wonder if Denbrock will even be here next season unfortunately-- He's got to be frustrated as heck then you add in Freeman's pre-game & condescending post-game comments
Denbrock's problems are three-fold: 1) the QB missed the end of last season, then missed the spring; 2) the WRs are largely new and haven't sync'd completely with the QB; 3) the OL is a mess ... both great OTs left for the draft, the new LT got injured and was replaced by a true freshman who was recruited as an OG, then they lost their young C and their young OG, who was clearly their best OL so far. There are all kinds of reasons the offense hasn't excelled. And I genuinely don't think any of them have to do with Denbrock not being up to the task or blaming the HC for issues that are happening.
RL missed a 3rd down crossing route to Collins in the 4th quarter and Collins was open between two defenders. RL threw it a yard behind him. He has to hit those. It would have been a first down easily
Collins needs to sit down in that open zone. Riley threw it to the opening. Collins overran it. If he leads him in stride, the pass either gets intercepted or gets Collins murdered
@drbulldobbs You're wrong bro. Riley was super late on the throw. It was a wide open zone. He was not in jeopardy of throwing an interception or running Collins into coverage, if he threw the ball on time. It was even stated on the broadcast
@@drbulldobbsYou clearly didn't watch the play in question.. are we just posting anything these days based 100% on our emotions at the time we decide to type something out now or what!? We all like RL and want the kid to succeed at ND.. when we point out his glaringly obvious deficiencies as a passer of the football, it isn't personal friend. Ok? ✌🏽☘
@@drbulldobbs Collins could have sat down, you’re right, but either way, the throw was late. It should have been an easy first down. These are the throws RL has to make.
No, I just want to be able to beat up on bad MAC level teams consistently. I think that’s a fair ask considering Notre Dame is so vastly superior in terms of total talent compared to these Group of 4 schools. It’s actually not even close. Just by talent alone, Notre Dame should dominate these teams. Yet they don’t. They play down to their competition and look awful while doing it
@@adamNDkipker I hate to say it but you're right. Riley Leonard gives this team the best chance to win based on how the head coach wants this offense to run. However, if the head coach gets out of his own way I'm not sure Riley Leonard is the best QB for this team.
@@richhale3215 let’s not argue amongst ourselves that’s what USC Wants. Let’s get behind our boys and win the championship. I’ve seen 3 And I want to see another before I’m gone
Gotta love that people on here think because Angeli threw 3 touchdowns and over 200 yards against 3rd string Oregon State players that he should be starting. This is a kid that in 18 games in high school again 18games he threw 1200 yards and 8 touchdowns…18GAMES!!! If he gets pressured he falls apart. And with this offensive line he’s gonna get pressured. Leonard is the best shot for this team because of his ability. Dude had almost 300 yards combined today.
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Ryan Roberts referred to Freeman's pregame comment regarding Notre Dame's approach offensively against Miami Ohio's defensive. Lou Holtz would never make such statements or any other top quality coach. Notre Dame should never approach a game with type of mind set. I now am beginning to see the common denominator of why our team may not be prepared for some of our opponents.
I don't care how talented Riley Leonard is, the kid is aloof. This is why he misses layup throws. This is why the offense is struggling. The QB is the leader and sets the tone for his team. Dynamic and has talent, but it's not a mystery to me that when Angeli is on the field, the offense has more spark. It's about attitude. It's about want. It's about heart. It doesn't seem to me that Leonard wants excellence.
Geez, you guys pick on the fans response. Yes it was a win, but watching muffed punts, bad FG snaps, easy throws for chunk plays missed and both lines getting pushed around. And a 22 year old, $2 million injury inconsistent QB who has a ‘confidence’ problem.
Who actually still believes in the Riley Leonard project? Bro is struggling to read a MAC defense and he also cant throw a 5 yard out route? 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
A 4 yr QB cant throw an out or slant route bc he needs more coaching? Gotcha 👍
I did I thought he was legit ..but I'm wrong. We need to recruit a top qb untill then we won't be a champion team
@@brianjirishlol exactly
This is why I like RR and Sean they tell it like it is. Vince at times once to give credit for things a QB should do, like he hit the short throws in the middle of the game, Vince he’s supposed to hit them all the time not some of the times as a true senior
I can tell u this after watching all the College Football this weekend there is no way this team makes the playoffs there are going to be to many really good 1& 2 lose teams and I can see ND losing 1 or 2 more this Offense is a JOKE
Happy for the win always. Prepare smart and MAD this week as they owe Louisville.
I’m so sick of media stating RL is more dynamic, the better QB, etc. when he can’t hit a 5yd out! Just because you are more athletic on paper does not make you a good QB! Not saying SA is TB, but TB is one of the least athletic QB’s in combine history, extremely slow, but atleast he could complete passes. 1st overall picks & 5 stars don’t always pan out, just bc you are higher rated on paper does not mean you will be better! We need a spark like in ‘18 when we benched Wimbush for Book, which btw we ended up going to the playoff w/ Book! I’m proud to say I don’t know football for calling for a QB change, bc the truth is coming!
Increasingly an exhausting show - Roberts tees off on run defense? They scored 3 points bro. Analysis based on some comment before the game? Come on.
Miami had average of 1.2 yard per rush. They had 8 yards rushing last week.
ND has had two games that we all were proud of (TA&M, PUR) and two games that left us concerned and scratching our collective head. Inconsistency. Playing to the level of their opponents. And then there is one other dynamic - this is a weird season across the country.
Sean hit it at 11 minutes. " they are not playing to notre dame standard. "
We have a different team every game. Its gotta be the coaching. The players skills sets can't change this much from game to game.
I'm not confident in the offense, tbh. Not sure what is going on there. But 9-3 is looking more realistic. Everyone said in 2018 to keep Winbush in because he was much better than Book. But, shockingly, the less talented Book made that clunky offense look smooth and explosive. I feel Angeli, or Minchey could be the spark they need. Anyone who doesn't think so, is obviously married to their pre season allegiance to Riley Leonard. Offense has absolutely no rhythm with Leonard. This is glaringly obvious. No clue how people cant see how clunky and off time the offense is with Leonard in.
If the offense was a band, Leonard would be their out of time drummer.
Yea but IB and LL will convince you that we're not seeing what we're seeing.....nice comment
Y'alls takes we're booty today do better......Angelli and Minchey can easily do what Riley is doing with scrambles and moving the pocket but they throw a billion tines better you keep trying to paint a pig and tell us it's not a pig. Sure we have other problems like a struggling o line due to injury and age but we absolutely need better QB play and that's a non negotiable
@@gavinwright7191 LL has been calling for Angeli to start since preseason.
@guineapigclips5205 Malik perhaps but not Shaun and not anyone at IB
@@gavinwright7191 100%. Yeah, they probably have bigger problems than Leonard, but not being able to throw simple short passes is a problem, despite what everyone else is saying. That's on Leonard. Moving the chains more consistently could help momentum in many, many ways! Not sure why this obvious truth is being ignored by IB.
As per Shawn's and Vince comment about not changing QB, if Leonard can't throw effectively against Louisville, we are not running the ball good enough to win game, we should not bring in Angelli to spark the passing game. I predict that Louisville will stack the box, allowing our wide receivers and tight ends to be open. If we lose this game based on Louisville stopping the run and we don't try to spark the passing game to counter Louisville, many questions must be answered at post game presser.
@@patrickturner4581 what if RL
Throws 3 picks in the first half?
@@GridleyMike Mike, you may have misunderstood my post! I disagree with Shawn and Vice about not bringing in Angelli. We should make a change at QB when the game situation calls for it. Louisville may well shut the run down, forcing the Irish to open up the passing game.
@@patrickturner4581 ok
One thing a lot of us overlooking
Were in year 3 ara 10-0 holtz 12-0
Bk 12-0 before title game
Love coach freeman but he ‘s in over his head
@@GridleyMike You maybe correct!
@@patrickturner4581I hope
I’m wrong
Win out then the playoffs go Irish!
The schedule doesn’t help
They come out flat vs mac teams no motivation also Leonard is not the guy he’s an inconsistent passer
Remember Brandon wimbush?
@@GridleyMike Wimbush was more dynamic. 10-3 season ahead with RL
He’s inconsistent, you’re right, but he makes plays. He’s not a drop back guy, but he has to get more accurate. He doesn’t have to launch the ball downfield, but he can’t miss the open layups.
@@deironhorton33he couldn’t complete a five yard dump off
He got benched
@@swedejohanson7739 You don't 'get more accurate.' You either have it or you don't. Unfortunately for ND, RL doesn't have it and he never will. ND has dynamic runners. We don't need a running QB. We need a guy who can chuck it down field. Isn't this what everyone has been clamoring for the past few seasons?
@@1202-Alarm yeah you’re right and this goes back to Kelly leaving us w Buchner and Pyne. Coan, Hartman, and RL were brought in to bridge the gap until our guys are developed.
My question is, why do these portal QBs come to ND and get worse? Why did Hartman sling it all over the place for 5 years at Wake, but comes to ND and forgets how to play QB?
I remember 85 Bears, Mike Singletary cousin was my drill seargent at Ft Sill
His brother coached my step-brother at Robinson High School in Fairfax, VA years ago. 👍🏼
@@FrosteeTheNoMan $85 bears vs 63
Bears who’s better?
I soooo want Marcus Freeman to be successful. Not just because he is the head coach of ND, but he seems like a really good man.
But, I am just not seeing it happening. Every issue we have ultimately leads back to him. Riley isn’t right for us? He got him.
We play tight? Head coach sets that tone.
I really want him to figure out. I just don’t see it happening. This will be a team that has great talent but consistently underperforms. It is harder to watch than when they had lesser talent and would get whooped by the big boys.
Casey Stengel in the Yankee clubhouse said I’m going to have to trade this guy, a player asked why are trading him Casey he’s a nice guy. Casey,s response was yeah he’s a nice guy he’s nice guy give me somebody who can hit….
I agree I like Freeman but this season going forward is not looking good. This team MUST win every game going forward to make the playoffs. I doubt it happens. The team next season will have alot of holes to fill. Honestly if Notre Dames misses the playoffs I think it would be a good time to buy Freeman out.
HOW IN HELL DO THEY COME OUT FLAT AND IN DISSARAY...AT HOME
..AGAIN...it is a coaching problem. Take the w but come on.
Soft coach who doesn't keep tabs on his kids on Friday nights before home games. Freeman is a great guy and an awesome recruiter and the kids love him.. but they love him like a cool big brother and do not love and fear him like a young man does a respected father who keeps his sons in line because he cares and KNOWS what's best for the.m. A good parent or coach doesn't give one iota whether their kids think they're 'cool'.
Freeman already has an incredibly awkward/antiquated football philosophy working against him.. if he's not careful, these other program ailments will build up and boil over to the point in which Notre Dame drops more games they have no business losing with the level of talent and depth on this roster this season. Freeman: get tf out of Denbrock's way and worry about the defense and why they're getting repeatedly gashed up front in the run game!?!! 😤😤😡
Thank goodness for the Crimson Tide!
Miami Ohio is a triple A ball club. Notre Dame is a major league team the defense did its job. The problem still exists and will appear down the schedule
ND is a Triple A club when compared to Alabama! 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
28-3 is sloppy lol? Idk bout that. But. I. Am worried because we will lose another game. Which probably eliminate bus from playoffs because our strength of schedule. Seems weak
Shaun is awesome
I'm starting to wonder if Denbrock will even be here next season unfortunately-- He's got to be frustrated as heck then you add in Freeman's pre-game & condescending post-game comments
Denbrock's problems are three-fold: 1) the QB missed the end of last season, then missed the spring; 2) the WRs are largely new and haven't sync'd completely with the QB; 3) the OL is a mess ... both great OTs left for the draft, the new LT got injured and was replaced by a true freshman who was recruited as an OG, then they lost their young C and their young OG, who was clearly their best OL so far. There are all kinds of reasons the offense hasn't excelled. And I genuinely don't think any of them have to do with Denbrock not being up to the task or blaming the HC for issues that are happening.
1 loss ever to a MAC team is not “ routinely”
RL missed a 3rd down crossing route to Collins in the 4th quarter and Collins was open between two defenders. RL threw it a yard behind him. He has to hit those. It would have been a first down easily
Collins needs to sit down in that open zone. Riley threw it to the opening. Collins overran it. If he leads him in stride, the pass either gets intercepted or gets Collins murdered
@drbulldobbs You're wrong bro. Riley was super late on the throw. It was a wide open zone. He was not in jeopardy of throwing an interception or running Collins into coverage, if he threw the ball on time. It was even stated on the broadcast
@@drbulldobbsYou clearly didn't watch the play in question.. are we just posting anything these days based 100% on our emotions at the time we decide to type something out now or what!? We all like RL and want the kid to succeed at ND.. when we point out his glaringly obvious deficiencies as a passer of the football, it isn't personal friend. Ok? ✌🏽☘
@@drbulldobbs Collins could have sat down, you’re right, but either way, the throw was late. It should have been an easy first down. These are the throws RL has to make.
Cooper Flanigan hurt his ankle, that’s y he was pissed
@@robcompton1795 I didn’t see it
I hope you’re wrong he’s a good receiver
The Marshall team that lost to ohio st today would have beaten Notre dame today.
Our fans want every drive to be a touchdown and all opponents plays to lose yardage. Game is 60 minutes-- sometimes need to let things evolve
No but I expect to score more than 14 points in a half against a bad football team
What’s wrong with high expectations?
@@mfnflyw16 No, we want to win against MAC opponents. Rather than routinely lose to them.
No, I just want to be able to beat up on bad MAC level teams consistently. I think that’s a fair ask considering Notre Dame is so vastly superior in terms of total talent compared to these Group of 4 schools. It’s actually not even close. Just by talent alone, Notre Dame should dominate these teams. Yet they don’t. They play down to their competition and look awful while doing it
ND fans got 1 passing TD from RL that took 4 games to get. Please stop being over dramatic about ND fans asking for too much. "ONE" passing TD. 🤦
Riley still gives us the best chance to win, thats why he is in..
Ask Mitch Evan’s and cooper Flanagan what they think
Bullshiiiii..
@@deironhorton33Leonard is a terrific athlete and runner but not a consistent accurate passer
We’ve been here before
@@adamNDkipker I hate to say it but you're right. Riley Leonard gives this team the best chance to win based on how the head coach wants this offense to run. However, if the head coach gets out of his own way I'm not sure Riley Leonard is the best QB for this team.
@@richhale3215 let’s not argue amongst ourselves that’s what USC
Wants. Let’s get behind our boys and win the championship. I’ve seen 3
And I want to see another before I’m gone
TGS= they've gone soft! Softest ND team I've seen in my life
Kelly had some teams as well.
Gotta love that people on here think because Angeli threw 3 touchdowns and over 200 yards against 3rd string Oregon State players that he should be starting. This is a kid that in 18 games in high school again 18games he threw 1200 yards and 8 touchdowns…18GAMES!!! If he gets pressured he falls apart. And with this offensive line he’s gonna get pressured. Leonard is the best shot for this team because of his ability. Dude had almost 300 yards combined today.
@@alextrapp4049 I hear u
RL is not a consistent accurate passer
Angeli is
@@GridleyMike he is when he isn’t pressured. Our offensive line is not like that this year. Hes going to get pressure in his face.
CHAING QB
Wrong
fire "friend Freeman and start Angeli"